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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:01:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Todd Schrivener <farseer@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: EARLY RUSTIC ARMS
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A friend of mine just got a 1st model brown bess from them. He was very pleased with the service, and the musket is a nice piece of work. BIG darn gun though, I will tell you that, weighs as much as I do. :)
Todd/Missouri Territory
larry pendleton <yellowroseforge@vzinet.com> wrote:
Has anyone heard anything good or bad about this outfit in Kentucky ?
Pendleton
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<DIV>A friend of mine just got a 1st model brown bess from them. He was very pleased with the service, and the musket is a nice piece of work. BIG darn gun though, I will tell you that, weighs as much as I do. :)</DIV>
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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:59:49 +0000
From: "Sean Boushie" <flintlocknfur@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beaver Skinning
I have to agree. Clean skinning is nice if you have the patience for it,..I
don't. Problem is beaver don't have that "extra" membrane that most mammals
do that allows you to pull the hide from the body. Its the same membrane you
have to get off before you brain tan. They store most of their fat reserves
under the skin for insulation and/or protection, therefore you have to cut
it off. You can either flesh the way you mentioned, but that leaves marks or
scores on the hide if your not perfect at it. Those may downgrade the hide
to a lower price depending on who you sell to and what they are going to do
with it. Try just using a five foot piece of 6" pvc pipe tucked into you
belly with the hide pinched between you and it, and the other end butt
against a wall or stump, and a "knife" made out of 2"x 14"ish 1/4" flat
stock. Wrap tape on the handles and square the 1/4" edge with a grinder so
it has no roundness and push down and away from yourself. I think you'll
find that a bit easier. One trick I use is after I get it fleshed and
streched, pour boiling hot water on the flesh side and scrub it as hard as
you can with a rough (notwire) brush. that will make the hide come out very
white and clean. I usually get a better price at auction that way.
SMB
>From: beaverboy@sofast.net
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>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beaver Skinning
>Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 04:55:13 -0700 (MST)
>
>Wynn,
> I think the method you are suggesting would be tough. You must be
>refering to clean skinning of beaver too. Most clean skinners lay them
>on a table or in a small trough (? did I spell that right?) Some I have
>seen use bungee cords in the aid of pulling off the hide as they skin
>it. There really is no easy way to skin a beaver.
> Rough skinning is much easier but then as you know, it has to be
>fleshed. Either way you do it, practice makes perfect. I can rough
>skin, flesh, and tack on boards 3 little beaver in an hour and two
>blankets beaver in an hour.
> The hide must be fairly clean when done. If there is too much left on
>it will show when the hide is dried. You will see white spots of fat,
>these can be scraped off afterwards but the hide will be much better
>looking if done right before it dries. Hides that have too much fat on
>them will not dry properly and be soft in those spots. You'll see what
>I mean.
> Lots of the thinner membrane (the same as on rats) will simple dry up
>or melt away. This grease can be wiped away with paper towels.
> Good luck,
> bb
>
>
>
>
> > I know this has been talked about before but now I have gotten my hands
> > dirty I want to talk it again. First of all I can't remember anyone
> > suggesting skinning out the hind legs then hanging the critter by the
> > holes in the fur and postioning the animal so its weight help pull the
> > hide off. To try to explain it better. The holes for the hind legs are
> > at the top tied up to whatever, the hair is inward, the body is at the
> > bottom tail down the hide just peels off as you go around it with your
> > knife.
> >
> > Secondly, you are all right fleshing is a b--------- . The guy who was
> > showing me doesn't claim to be any expert but he used a slicing sideward
> > movement with a sharp blade, sharpened on one side only. It was a move
> > that I would never do on a deer hide for fear of cutting the hell out of
> > it. But it worked on the beaver. The only question left that neither
>of
> > us knew was how much do you need to take off. We left it pretty clean
>but
> > it still had a little slime to it. It would remind me of not getting
>all
> > the epedermis off a deer hide. Is that good enough?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Wynn Ormond
> >
>
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