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hist_text-digest Tuesday, June 10 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1206
In this issue:
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List:Books the Mt. Man Had - Here is the Article
-áááááá MtMan-List:Books and other things Mt. Man Had
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List:Books the Mt. Man Had
-áááááá MtMan-List: Bear Lake Canoe Trip
-áááááá [none]
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Bear Lake Canoe Trip
-áááááá MtMan-List: OFF TOPIC: grandson becoming a man
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Mountain Man's horse
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: OFF TOPIC: grandson becoming a man
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: OFF TOPIC: grandson becoming a man
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: OFF TOPIC: grandson becoming a man
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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 21:46:11 -0700
From: "Randal Bublitz" <rjbublitz@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:Books the Mt. Man Had - Here is the Article
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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 00:56:03 EDT
From: MarkLoader@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List:Books and other things Mt. Man Had
Hello the camp
My reason for asking what books a Mt Man may have had is. I am trying to
compile a selection of items that might have been at a mess camp as part of a
brigade. We as a group tend to over look the structure of the mess as part of the
brigade. And how the brigades a whole could have many things to accomplish a
special task.
The brigade could have had some of these books, camp equipment such as
shovel, ax, pick, adz a limited black smith shop some stock iron that could have
served as fire irons and various trade items mirrors, awls, beads ect. Having
these items at a public demonstration would show a more realistic camp.
Thanks Mark "Roadkill" Loader
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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 14:56:39 +0000
From: tipis@attbi.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:Books the Mt. Man Had
It came through for me.
Linda Holley
> Jim
> I ran into this problem trying to send my library list as an attachment on
> the list. Maybe you can copy it into a post or two if it is too long. Or send
> it to me as a private email.
> Thanks Mark "Roadkill" Loader
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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 14:14:12 -0600
From: Dennis Knapp <dennis@clearsprings.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Bear Lake Canoe Trip
I am planning a canoe trip probably in August. Have any of you, especially in the
Poison River Party canoed any part of Bear Lake. I'm looking at a 4-5 day trip. I need
some info on places to camp along the way, wether the east or west side is better, put
in and take out spots, etc. Any help would be appreciated. Contact me at ...
sticher@ktft38.com or 208-543-8859. Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Dennis Knapp aka Sticher
Southern Idaho
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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 22:28:04 +0000
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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 22:24:33 -0600
From: "Wynn Ormond" <cheyenne@pcu.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bear Lake Canoe Trip
Mr Knapp
It is good to hear from you again. What are the boys doing this summer?
I am not a canoer nor have I spent much time on Bear Lake but it is pretty
close to home so I will give a little advice.
The west side has a lot of beaches and roads which makes getting in and out
easy but also means population. As far as I know the whole lake is open to
motorized travel but I dont know if that is a problem for canoes or not.
The East side looks steep and rocky and is supposed to have some springs etc
if I understand correctly. It might be worth exploring.
If you decided to do parts of the river instead of the lake there is Cutler
Reservoir which has a part that is closed to motorized boats and is a
shallow boggy kind of place where canoeing would be fairly safe. In August
the mosquitoes could probably carry you the mile or so to my place for a
nights camp. I could put you out in the back where you can hunt skunks and
sleep near horse shit just like real mountain men! I believe there are
other parts of the river up above Preston that are mildly mountainous and
may be more exciting and scenic.
Wynn Ormond
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From: Dennis Knapp <dennis@clearsprings.com>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:14 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Bear Lake Canoe Trip
> I am planning a canoe trip probably in August. Have any of you, especially
in the
> Poison River Party canoed any part of Bear Lake. I'm looking at a 4-5 day
trip. I need
> some info on places to camp along the way, wether the east or west side is
better, put
> in and take out spots, etc. Any help would be appreciated. Contact me at
...
> sticher@ktft38.com or 208-543-8859. Thanks in advance.
> Regards,
> Dennis Knapp aka Sticher
> Southern Idaho
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 21:38:05 -0500
From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <lanneyratcliff@charter.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: OFF TOPIC: grandson becoming a man
My grandson will be seventeen months old day after tomorrow. Tonight he
took a tentative step on the road to becoming not just a man, but a Texas
man........he ate (a little) chili for the first time and LOVED it.
Whataguy!! I just hope he doesn't blow the bottom out of his Huggie
sometime tonight. If you don't have any grandchildren get some soon. If I
had know they were so much fun I would have had them (3) first.
proud grandpa
Lanney Ratcliff
lanneyratcliff@charter.net
______________________________________________________________
Aux Aliments du Pays
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 20:58:15 -0600
From: "Steve Banks" <sbanks@wyoming.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mountain Man's horse
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Dorothy,
Zenas Leonard's account from "Adventures of a Mountain Man:" gives an =
answer to your question. They had to stay a winter on the upper Laramie =
River and this was their experience. You can read about it starting on =
page 19 - 21. The cottonwood bark here had a different characteristic =
from the bark they had been feeding lower downstream on the Laramie =
River. Unfortunatly the horses starved because they refused to eat the =
bark in this winter camp. Only the mules survived. I've investigated =
this with a friend of mine and his opinion was that the bitterness was =
caused by some mineral that was absorbed in the tree. There is a lot of =
a low grade aluminum mineral around the Laramie area and this might be a =
possibility. For your interest, I have retraced Leonard's route from =
the mouth of the Laramie River to its source at Chambers Lake at the =
foot of Cameron Pass in Colorado. Hope this helps some.
Steve Banks
----- Original Message -----=20
From: DOROTHY MORRIS=20
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:57 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Mountain Man's horse
Can anyone tell me how a Mountain Man took fed his horse while up at a =
trapping camp during a Rocky Mountain Winter? I hear the horses ate the =
inner bark of the cottonwood tree, but how was it gathered and by whom? =
Did the horses roam at will to eat and risk being food for wolves? Were =
there enough cottonwood trees? What else did they eat? What were the =
logistics of this situation? Anyone know? Love to hear from you.
DKM
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whom? Did=20
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 23:14:07 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <admiller@citynet.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: OFF TOPIC: grandson becoming a man
I just became a Grandpa for the first time. Going to see him in July...
Heh... Told my Son it was MY turn to spoil him then send him home just like
his Pop did... Was born March 10, 10# 2 0z brby boy... His Dad is 6'3", and
his Mom is 6'... Takes after the family... BIG boy!!
Ad Miller
>
If you don't have any grandchildren get some soon. If I
> had know they were so much fun I would have had them (3) first.
>
> proud grandpa
> Lanney Ratcliff
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 21:18:33 -0700
From: "Bear Kelsey" <tubears@charter.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: OFF TOPIC: grandson becoming a man
Takes after the family... BIG boy!!
Got my Grand-son from Alaska here with me in Oregon. He will be here till
August. We plan on doing a lot of fishing and shooting through the time he
will be here. This one is the big one in this family, he is 15 and stands 6'
4 " and tips the scales at about 220 lbs. Got two more Grand-sons on their
way from the East coast, one is tall and skinny and the other medium tall
and a little stocky. The tall and skinny one is 16 and the other one is 13.
Gonna be a busy summer for sure !!!!
"Two Bears"
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 22:51:34 -0700
From: "Ben" <beb1@sisna.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: OFF TOPIC: grandson becoming a man
Hey...I got the two of the cutest, smartest and can spit farthest (we were
having a watermelon seed spitting contest) grandsons you've ever seen. One
is just over two years, the other 18 months. I'm glad to see there are
other proud grand-dads here on the board. Gonna take 'em fishing here
shortly, as soon as I get the boat un-winterized. Be a few years before I
can take 'em hunting. Hope I can still hobble around by then. They're a
handful, but I love being with them. I don't understand grandparents that
don't want to have much to do with their grandkids till they get big enough
to take care of themselves. They sure miss a whole bunch.
Here's to happy times with the grandkids
Ben
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From: "Addison Miller" <admiller@citynet.net>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: OFF TOPIC: grandson becoming a man
> I just became a Grandpa for the first time. Going to see him in July...
> Heh... Told my Son it was MY turn to spoil him then send him home just
like
> his Pop did... Was born March 10, 10# 2 0z brby boy... His Dad is 6'3",
and
> his Mom is 6'... Takes after the family... BIG boy!!
>
> Ad Miller
> >
> If you don't have any grandchildren get some soon. If I
> > had know they were so much fun I would have had them (3) first.
> >
> > proud grandpa
> > Lanney Ratcliff
>
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