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Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1199
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hist_text-digest Friday, May 16 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1199
In this issue:
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Hevi shot...
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Hevi shot...
-áááááá MtMan-List: Hevi Shot
-áááááá MtMan-List: unsubscribe
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Lyman Products {thanks for the input} though still questions
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: unsubscribe
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Hevi shot...
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Hevi Shot
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Hevi shot/PVLR...
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Hevi shot...
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Hevi Shot
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Hevi shot...
-áááááá MtMan-List: /PVLR...
-áááááá MtMan-List: unsubscribe
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Hevi shot...
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: unsubscribe
-áááááá MtMan-List: Historic Rifles
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:39:27 +1200
From: Duncan Macready <duncanm@ihug.co.nz>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hevi shot...
Magpie , Hevi shot is heavier than lead by about 7% , it is made of
tungsten, iron and nickle, it is way harder than steel shot and requires
special wads, it will tear your damascus barrel to shreds, I don't think it
would be suitable for any ML use, load data I read says scoring of barrels
is inevitable, try Bismuth if you want a ML lead alternative, have a look
at the Remington web site to find out more about Hevi shot
Cheers Dunc
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 07:37:33 -0600
From: "Wynn Ormond" <cheyenne@pcu.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hevi shot...
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Magpie wrote
I plan on terrorizing the Pacific Flyway next fall with this guy....
Anytime an airline pilot makes a statement like this I quit planning =
on flying for a while, at least in the fall.
Wynn
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Magpie wrote</FONT></DIV>
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FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Anytime an airline pilot makes a statement like =
this I quit=20
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fall.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 08:35:55 -0500
From: "Glenn Darilek" <glenn@leaklocationservices.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Hevi Shot
Whoa! My understanding is that hevi shot is much harder than lead, and
is about as hard as modern gun barrels. So they should be used in
special shot cups unless you want your fowler's barrel rifled with 1
turn in infinity.
It is a little heavier than lead also. Expensive too.
Glenn Darilek
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 07:37:35 -0600
From: Ole Jensen <olebjensen@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lyman Products {thanks for the input} though still questions
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on 5/14/03 7:38 PM, Ikon at ikon@mindspring.com wrote:
Check for Lyman GPR kits. If I remember, I saw them in the 298.00 range
awhile back in the white..
Frank
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From: Wolverine <mailto:wolverine1@aaahawk.com>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 6:05 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Lyman Products {thanks for the input} though still
questions
Thanks to all for the input on the Lyman GPR...{Lyman Products} I must say
Im rather
undecided at present.
I called TVM today and spoke with them at length...
As I desire a flinter in the Lyman and need 15 in pull, It might be the
better way to go.
The kit as Im told is inletted for barrel and lock plate and ramrod channel.
It already has the premium barrel and the L&R lock..
At $510 for the full kit with premium parts , it might be the way to go.
I was quoted a price of $370 for the Leman in already built from a dealer,
plus $15 for shipping.
So at present, still thinking.. Although the Lyman Products rifle is ready
to go and shoot.
the TVM has better parts
Is anyone got thoughts on TVM rifles??? in kit form?
Thanks for all the input to all !!!
Wolverine
Gentelmen,
Try Caywood guns. Or cruise youre local pawn shops you might find a costum
built flinter and most pawn shops don't know what they are.
Ole
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on 5/14/03 7:38 PM, Ikon at ikon@mindspring.com wrote:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Check for Lyman GPR kits. &nb=
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<FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Frank<BR>
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<B>From:</B> Wolverine <mailto:wolverine1@aaahawk.com> <BR>
<B>To:</B> hist_text@lists.xmission.com <BR>
<B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 14, 2003 6:05 PM<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> MtMan-List: Lyman Products {thanks for the input} though st=
ill questions<BR>
<BR>
<B>Thanks to all for the input on the Lyman GPR...{Lyman Products} I must s=
ay Im rather<BR>
undecided at present.<BR>
I called TVM today and spoke with them at length...<BR>
As I desire a flinter in the Lyman and need 15 in pull, It might be the bet=
ter way to go.<BR>
The kit as Im told is inletted for barrel and lock plate and ramrod channel=
.<BR>
It already has the premium barrel and the L&R lock..<BR>
At $510 for the full kit with premium parts , it might be the way to go.<BR=
>
I was quoted a price of $370 for the Leman in already built from a dealer, =
plus $15 for shipping.<BR>
<BR>
So at present, still thinking.. Although the Lyman Products rifle is ready =
to go and shoot.<BR>
the TVM has better parts<BR>
Is anyone got thoughts on TVM rifles??? in kit form?<BR>
Thanks for all the input to all !!!<BR>
Wolverine<BR>
</B></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
Gentelmen,<BR>
Try Caywood guns. Or cruise youre local pawn shops you might find a costum =
built flinter and most pawn shops don't know what they are.<BR>
Ole
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 10:25:43 EDT
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Subject: Re: MtMan-List: unsubscribe
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:09:47 EDT
From: SWcushing@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hevi shot...
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In a message dated 5/15/2003 6:33:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
cheyenne@pcu.net writes:
> Magpie wrote
>
> >> I plan on terrorizing the Pacific Flyway next fall with this guy....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Anytime an airline pilot makes a statement like this I quit planning on
>> flying for a while, at least in the fall.
>>
>> Wynn
>>
>
Haaaaaaaaa...... Hell, I should be armed and dangerous in the cockpit by Fall
<VBG> ....course I'm kinda dangerous now with the way I land....
Magpie
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ht Time, cheyenne@pcu.net writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT=
: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Magpie wrote</FONT><FONT COLOR=
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F" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT=
: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I plan on terrorizing the Pacif=
ic Flyway next fall with this guy....<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3=
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2=
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Anytime an airline pilot mak=
es a statement like this I quit planning on flying for a while, at least in=20=
the fall.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=
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</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2=
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<BR>
Haaaaaaaaa...... Hell, I should be armed and dangerous in the cockpit by Fal=
l <VBG> ....course I'm kinda dangerous now with the way I land....<BR>
<BR>
Magpie</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:15:10 EDT
From: SWcushing@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hevi Shot
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In a message dated 5/15/2003 6:36:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
glenn@leaklocationservices.com writes:
> Whoa! My understanding is that hevi shot is much harder than lead, and
> is about as hard as modern gun barrels.
Thanks Glenn, Dunc, I guess I'm confusing Hevi shot with Bismuth.... Digging
through my reloading books, I do see tables for Bismuth and will try that.
Magpie
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=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 5/15/2003 6:36:25 AM Pacific Daylig=
ht Time, glenn@leaklocationservices.com writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT=
: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Whoa! My understanding is=
that hevi shot is much harder than lead, and<BR>
is about as hard as modern gun barrels.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
Thanks Glenn, Dunc, I guess I'm confusing Hevi shot with Bismuth.... Digging=
through my reloading books, I do see tables for Bismuth and will try that.=20=
<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:21:14 EDT
From: SWcushing@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hevi shot/PVLR...
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In a message dated 5/14/2003 10:51:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
amm1719@charter.net writes:
> <Haven't done it yet but since it is softer than lead there should be no
> problem.>
From the other posts, I think Crawdad actually got Bismuth.....or should
have.
I'm headed out to PVLR this morning and will be there till Sunday. You guys
come over if you can. I've got the 54 Lancaster dialed in using 85grs 3F,
.530 ball, a felt wad over the powder, and a .018 patch.
Magpie
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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=
=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 5/14/2003 10:51:12 PM Pacific Dayli=
ght Time, amm1719@charter.net writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT=
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</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2=
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">From the other posts, I thin=
k Crawdad actually got Bismuth.....or should have.<BR>
<BR>
I'm headed out to PVLR this morning and will be there till Sunday. You guys=20=
come over if you can. I've got the 54 Lancaster dialed in using 85grs 3F, .5=
30 ball, a felt wad over the powder, and a .018 patch.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:37:47 EDT
From: LivingInThePast@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hevi shot...
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In a message dated 5/15/2003 9:11:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
SWcushing@aol.com writes:
> Hell, I should be armed and dangerous in the cockpit by Fall <VBG>
Lucky for the ducks the windows don't open!
Barn
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3 9:11:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, SWcushing@aol.com writes:<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2=
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT=
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Lucky for the ducks the windows don't open!<BR>
<BR>
Barn</B></FONT></HTML>
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 20:05:45 -0700
From: "roger lahti" <amm1719@charter.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hevi Shot
Magpie,
I'm glad we've gotten these responses on HeavyShot. Likely I am confusing it
with Bismuth. Crawdad did give me some of one or the other and it was likely
bismuth not HS. Anyway it is expensive and we were only going to use it as I
said, where toxic shot is verboten. Ask Crawdad what he has and what he
thinks bout it.
Capt. Lahti'
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 20:09:16 -0700
From: "roger lahti" <amm1719@charter.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hevi shot...
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Haaaaaaaaa...... Hell, I should be armed and dangerous in the cockpit by =
Fall <VBG> ....course I'm kinda dangerous now with the way I land....
Magpie=20
Magpie,
Do you get to paint your name on the front of the plane your flying? And =
do you get to paint little figures of squatting passengers for every =
time one soils himself on landing?
Capt. Lahti'
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 20:10:35 -0700
From: "roger lahti" <amm1719@charter.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: /PVLR...
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Really sorry I won't make it this year. Too much else going on. I will =
be at Brigade though. Have fun.
Capt. Lahti'
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Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hevi shot/PVLR...
In a message dated 5/14/2003 10:51:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, =
amm1719@charter.net writes:
<Haven't done it yet but since it is softer than lead there should =
be no problem.>
From the other posts, I think Crawdad actually got Bismuth.....or =
should have.
I'm headed out to PVLR this morning and will be there till Sunday. You =
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85grs 3F, .530 ball, a felt wad over the powder, and a .018 patch.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Really sorry I won't make it this year. =
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<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 =
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FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 5/14/2003 10:51:12 PM Pacific =
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Time, <A href=3D"mailto:amm1719@charter.net">amm1719@charter.net</A>=20
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 08:00:07 -0600
From: Ole Jensen <olebjensen@earthlink.net>
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on 5/15/03 9:09 PM, roger lahti at amm1719@charter.net wrote:
Haaaaaaaaa...... Hell, I should be armed and dangerous in the cockpit by
Fall <VBG> ....course I'm kinda dangerous now with the way I land....
Magpie
Magpie,
Do you get to paint your name on the front of the plane your flying? And do
you get to paint little figures of squatting passengers for every time one
soils himself on landing?
Capt. Lahti'
Magpie,
You comming to nationals?
Ole
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on 5/15/03 9:09 PM, roger lahti at amm1719@charter.net wrote:<BR>
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Magpie</FONT></FONT> <BR>
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You comming to nationals?<BR>
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 14:56:00 -0400
From: "Punke, Michael W." <MPunke@mayerbrownrowe.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Historic Rifles
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I thought you all might be interested in a recent letter I received about=
my book, The Revenant. In the book, I armed Hugh Glass with an "Angstad=
t" rifle made in Kutztown PA by a man named Jacob Angstadt. (There is no=
record, of which I am aware, of what gun Hugh Glass actually carried cir=
ca 1823.) From my research, I knew that Angstadt made high-caliber guns=
in the early 19th century. I was particularly interested in Angstadt be=
cause some versions of their rifles were quite short, and actually looked=
a little like the later Hawkens.
In any event, last week I received =
a letter from one John P Angstadt of Lititz PA. He told me that he had c=
ome across my book -- and that he is a direct descendant of Jacob Angstad=
t and other members of the Angstadt family, most of them Pennsylvania gun=
makers.
John Angstadt, as you might imagine, has quite an interest in =
Angstadt rifles, and asked me if I own one. I do not (unfortunately) but=
I told him I would canvass this list and see if any of you either own An=
gstadts or have come across them in your travels.
YMOS,
Michael Pun=
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(As a footnote, I went to the NRA's museum in Fairfax VA last =
week while researching a new novel. If you haven't been there, it has a =
nice collection of black powder weapons.)
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I thought you all=
might be interested in a recent letter I received about my book, The Rev=
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rifle made in Kutztown PA by a man named Jacob Angstadt. (There is=
no record, of which I am aware, of what gun Hugh Glass actually carried =
circa 1823.) From my research, I knew that Angstadt made high=
- -caliber guns in the early 19th century. I was particularly interes=
ted in Angstadt because some versions of their rifles were quite short, a=
nd actually looked a little like the later Hawkens. </FONT></P>
<P><FO=
NT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">In any event, last week I received a letter fr=
om one John P Angstadt of Lititz PA. He told me that he had come ac=
ross my book -- and that he is a direct descendant of Jacob Angstadt and =
other members of the Angstadt family, most of them Pennsylvania gunmakers=
.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">John Angstadt, as you mi=
ght imagine, has quite an interest in Angstadt rifles, and asked me if I =
own one. I do not (unfortunately) but I told him I would canvass th=
is list and see if any of you either own Angstadts or have come across th=
em in your travels. </FONT></P>
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on of black powder weapons.)</FONT></P>
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