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From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1102 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Saturday, November 2 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1102 In this issue: -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: please help with my pioneer project -áááááá MtMan-List: Wow! -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Wood Sturups -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Wood Sturups -áááááá MtMan-List: Caleb's dad -áááááá MtMan-List: Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:20:08 -0600 -áááááá MtMan-List: email address request -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: please help with my pioneer project -áááááá MtMan-List: Primitive Fishing Gear -áááááá RE: MtMan-List: Primitive Fishing Gear -áááááá RE: MtMan-List: Primitive Fishing Gear -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Primitive Fishing Gear -áááááá MtMan-List: Dating HBC point blankets ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:18:04 -0700 From: "Wynn Ormond" <oci@pcu.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: please help with my pioneer project > Caleb's dad > (John R. Sweet) wrote in part > Thanks for helping my boy out with his project. He'll be back here with me on > Sat. night and he'll be back to work on this project soon. I'm going to make > him write out the recipes w/ quill and India ink, then he'll have to cook up > the grub for his class using period gear, etc. > John please check your email Friday night or Saturday morning I will try to get some time to write up another little project that will yield your son a recipe that has made me welcome in many camps and is period correct. It will help teach him more valuable research skills. Also I am going to have to get in trouble for being nit picky here but in your above post you used the wrong words. You said you were going to "make" him and he would "have to" do these things. I beg to differ. It is an honor to be able to do this sort of thing and most kids do not have the resources or the teacher who can make it happen. You will "let" him and "allow" him to do those kinds of privilages. Wynn Ormond - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:49:28 -0800 From: "Thomas Petersen" <thomas@piu.org> Subject: MtMan-List: Wow! This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C280B2.0A1F1B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks I am a new reader of the Mountain Man List serv. I cannot believe the incredible response to a 12 year old asking for information. It would be so easy to ignore the request, but instead so many took the time and the thoughts to help. I take my hat off to each of you for a job well done. I am not as experienced and honed as most of you, but I only hope than when I have something I am able to contribute, that I can meet the standard set in the past 24 hours. Skol! Thomas R Petersen Bill Hart District Chair and WLACC High Adventure Team Chair Phone: (661) 255-2864 * Fax (661) 254-0604 * E-Mail: BSAHighAdventure@yahoo.com or Thomas@piu.org Bill Hart District Website: http://billhart.bsa-la.org/ <http://billhart.bsa-la.org/> High Adventure Team Website: http://hat.bsa-la.org/ <http://hat.bsa-la.org/> - ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C280B2.0A1F1B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 9"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 9"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C280B2.0A052AC0">  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> Folks<o:p></o:p> <![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> I am a new reader of the Mountain Man List serv. I cannot believe = the incredible response to a 12 year old asking for information. It would be = so easy to ignore the request, but instead so many took the time and the = thoughts to help. I take my hat off to each of you for a job well done. I am not = as experienced and honed as most of you, but I only hope than when I have something I am able to contribute, that I can meet the standard set in = the past 24 hours.<o:p></o:p> <![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> <![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> <![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> <f= ont size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial>Skol!<o:p></o:p></span= > <![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p= > <![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p= > Thomas R Petersen<o:p></o:p> Bill = Hart District Chair and WLACC High Adventure Team Chair <o:p></o:p></span= > <![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p= > Phone: (661) 255-2864 * Fax (661) = 254-0604 * E-Mail: BSAHighAdventure@yahoo.com or Thomas@piu.org<o:p></o:p></span= > Bill Hart District Website: &n= bsp; <a href=3D"http://billhart.bsa-la.org/">http://billhart.bsa-la.org/</a><o:p></o:p= > High Adventure Team Website: <a href=3D"http://hat.bsa-la.org/">http://hat.bsa-la.org/</a><o:p></o:p= > <![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p= > <![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p= > <![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> </div> </body> </html> - ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C280B2.0A1F1B60-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:56:51 EST From: TrapRJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wood Sturups - --part1_142.1a33c3f.2af2acc3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A while back someone was looking for wood sturups. I have seen a pain in a junk store where I live. If someone is interested I will take a picture and get back to you off the list. Let me know. TrapRJoe - --part1_142.1a33c3f.2af2acc3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML>A while back someone was looking for wood sturups. I have seen a pain in a junk store where I live. If someone is interested I will take a picture and get back to you off the list. Let me know. TrapRJoe</HTML> - --part1_142.1a33c3f.2af2acc3_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:04:25 +0000 From: "scott mcmahon" <mountedranger@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wood Sturups I'd be interested if they're solid wood and not the bent wood style, have a pair of those already. Thanks for the heads up! Dios, Libertad y Tejas Scott McMahon S.W. Frontiers Mntd. Ranging Co. "Hays's Rangers have come, their appearance never to be forgotten. Not any sort of uniforms, but well mounted and doubly well armed: each man has one or two Colt's revolvers besides ordinary pistols, a sword, and every man a rifle....The Mexicans are terribly afraid of them." General Ethan Allen Hitchcock _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connectionsá-- switch toáMSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:00:44 -0600 From: "Frank Fusco" <Rifleman1776@centurytel.net> Subject: MtMan-List: Caleb's dad I believe the use of the word "make" for encouraging Caleb to do a project was just an unfortunate choice. Like many of us I tried to be a good parent and see a lot to admire in John Sweet's attention to his son's learning experience. Way to go John and Caleb. Frank G. Fusco Mountain Home, AR http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ozarksmuzzleloaders/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:20:32 -0700 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <lanneyratcliff@charter.net> Subject: MtMan-List: Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:20:08 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C28134.0DA1B860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lanney Ratcliff lanneyratcliff@charter.net ______________________________________________________________ Aux Aliments du Pays - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C28134.0DA1B860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lanney Ratcliff <A=20 href=3D"mailto:lanneyratcliff@charter.net">lanneyratcliff@charter.net</A>= ______________________________________________________________ Aux= =20 Aliments du Pays </DIV></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C28134.0DA1B860-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:15:50 -0500 From: "Jim Zeigler" <kodiak@ptd.net> Subject: MtMan-List: email address request This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C2816E.201DBA40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello List: Could someone please send me Rex Allen=20 Norman's email address, I have accidently deleted the one I had. Please send off list.....Thank you in advance...Jim kodiak@ptd.net - ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C2816E.201DBA40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2719.2200" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>Hello List: Could someone please send = me Rex Allen=20 </DIV> <DIV>Norman's email address, I have = accidently deleted=20 the one</DIV> <DIV>I had. Please send off = list.....Thank you in=20 advance...Jim</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>kodiak@ptd.net</DIV></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C2816E.201DBA40-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:28:47 -0700 From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" <leona3@sourceoneinternet.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: please help with my pioneer project > > My name is Caleb Sweet. I am in the third grade in Palmer Lake Colorado. I > am > > studying pioneers. I need at least three recipes for pioneer food. The > > recipes need to be from the Santa Fe Trail. I need to know the primary > > sources that the recipes come from. My dad is a historian but he says I > have > > to do it myself. Calab Your Dad has put you on a path of discovery. This one applies to history but it can get you knowledge on all kinds of information legal or illegal, good or bad. So far you have been encouraged to ask somebody who may know something. In this case it was a group on the internet who live all over the world and you never know what they will know or tell you. They have sent you to secondary source books which are a good source of information. I want to give you another avenue to explore. Go to Dean's site at: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/amm.html From there go into his search engine and type French dump* This will give you the original source for a recipe for French dumplings. They are not specific to Santa Fe but they may have found there way there. You will have to do a little creative imagining to make the recipe work but the ones I have made have all been good. And yes you can deep fry in tin cookware just fine. Now I happen to know just what to search for to get you this recipe but from there you have to work harder. Maybe type in kamas or coffee or cooking. This is harder and slower to get information from than getting it from secondary sources but there is some rewards in finding your information in an original source. Good hunting and good luck on preparing and serving your findings. Wynn Ormond - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:31:46 -0700 (MST) From: <beaverboy@sofast.net> Subject: MtMan-List: Primitive Fishing Gear Dear List, I need to contact Braddock's Trace Mercantile about buying some primitve fishing gear does anyone have his number or anyone else's number who sells horse hair lines and period correct fishing gear? Thank you very much, Beaverboy - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:53:28 -0800 From: "Randal Bublitz" <rjbublitz@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Primitive Fishing Gear Beaverboy, check out.... http://www.clarkandsons.com/ Paul Jones has fishing stuff.... hardtack Randal Bublitz rjbublitz@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: <beaverboy@sofast.net> > To: <hist_text@xmission.com> > Date: 11/1/02 8:31:46 PM > Subject: MtMan-List: Primitive Fishing Gear > > Dear List, > I need to contact Braddock's Trace Mercantile about buying some > primitve fishing gear does anyone have his number or anyone else's number > who sells horse hair lines and period correct fishing gear? > Thank you very much, > Beaverboy > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:51:28 -0700 (MST) From: <beaverboy@sofast.net> Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Primitive Fishing Gear Thank you sir, that's just what I needed. Sincerely, BB > Beaverboy, check out.... http://www.clarkandsons.com/ Paul Jones > has fishing stuff.... hardtack > > Randal Bublitz > rjbublitz@earthlink.net > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > >> [Original Message] >> From: <beaverboy@sofast.net> >> To: <hist_text@xmission.com> >> Date: 11/1/02 8:31:46 PM >> Subject: MtMan-List: Primitive Fishing Gear >> >> Dear List, >> I need to contact Braddock's Trace Mercantile about buying some >> primitve fishing gear does anyone have his number or anyone else's >> number who sells horse hair lines and period correct fishing gear? >> Thank you very much, >> Beaverboy >> >> >> >> ---------------------- >> hist_text list info: >> http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:51:21 -0600 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <lanneyratcliff@charter.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Primitive Fishing Gear I think you will find that Braddock Trace went under and Clark & Sons Mercantile is now the purveyor of the top quality primitive fishing gear you want. The store keeper is the same. Contact them here: http://www.clarkandsons.com/ Lanney Ratcliff - ----- Original Message ----- From: <beaverboy@sofast.net> To: <hist_text@xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:31 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Primitive Fishing Gear > Dear List, > I need to contact Braddock's Trace Mercantile about buying some > primitve fishing gear does anyone have his number or anyone else's number > who sells horse hair lines and period correct fishing gear? > Thank you very much, > Beaverboy > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:44:10 -0700 From: "Angela Gottfred" <agottfre@telusplanet.net> Subject: MtMan-List: Dating HBC point blankets It can really pay to listen to CBC Radio sometimes. This morning, I caught an interview with Harold Tichenor, author of a new book, _ The blanket : an illustrated history of the Hudson's Bay blanket_. Thichenor says this book discusses the history of the HBC point blanket, all the way from the origin of the woven "points" in the 1500's, to how to date an antique blanket. (He said it is easiest to date blankets produced since 1890, because of the labels, but he also provides some rough ideas on how to date pre-1890 blankets.) Tichenor's research was spurred by the surprisingly high price of second-hand blankets, which he found was fuelled by reeanactors and collectors. When the HBC found out about his research at the HBC Archives (http://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/archives/hbca/about/blankets.html), they commissioned the book, since they often get questions about dating blankets. (I've gotten my share of these questions too.) It sounds like this book is the authoritative guide many folks have been looking for. The book is supposed to be on sale at most Bay stores, but you can also order it over the phone or online. Go to www.hbc.com, and then paste the product number 25624669 into the search box on the top left side of the webpage. (Searching on Tichenor will also work, but don't bother trying to search on "blanket" or "book".) At present, this book is *not* available online from Chapters, Indigo, Amazon.ca, or Amazon.com. I haven't seen the book yet myself, but I'll try to get a copy in the next week or so. Your very humble & most obedient servant, Angela Gottfred - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #1102 ******************************** - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.