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From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1063 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Sunday, July 21 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1063 In this issue: -áááááá MtMan-List: Re: Mold for Brown Bess, .75 Cal. -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Mold for Brown Bess, .75 Cal. -áááááá MtMan-List: Jags... -áááááá MtMan-List: crawdad traps -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: : Old Timers Camp -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Mold for Brown Bess, .75 Cal. -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps -áááááá MtMan-List: Conversion Tables ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:40:05 -0500 From: "Henry B. Crawford" <mxhbc@TTACS.TTU.EDU> Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Mold for Brown Bess, .75 Cal. >Henry.... I don't think that's Rapine's web page. Ah....I'm also not sure you >mentioned if you wanted a round ball mould, or conical..... Round ball, of course, .735 dia. >I found their catalog, >Magpie Was that the correct web catalog? If not, what is? HBC *********************************** Henry B. Crawford Curator of History Museum of Texas Tech University Box 43191 Lubbock, TX 79409-3191 henry.b.crawford@ttu.edu 806/742-2442, ext 255 FAX 742-1136 Website: http://www.museum.ttu.edu ***Living History . . . Because It's There*** - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:32:33 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Mold for Brown Bess, .75 Cal. In a message dated 7/19/02 9:41:10 AM, mxhbc@TTACS.TTU.EDU writes: << Round ball, of course, .735 dia. >> OK....the mould you want is the "Primitive Bag Mould" in .735595 (as close to .735 as yer gonna get) and I'd suggest you call Rapine at (215) 697-5413 as I don't think they have a web site. <<I'm also not sure you mentioned if you wanted a round ball mould, or conical.>> Oops......wrong war.....<G> Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:44:49 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Jags... Klahowya boys, (and girls, Victoria) I was fondling my gun....er....rifle the other day, and got to wonderin how long "jags" have been around. You know.....the round button type with grooves that hold the patch while wiping the bore. I know the "tow worm" has been around for about as long as guns, but what about the jag..... and documentation counts. Ymos, Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:58:44 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: crawdad traps Klahowya....again, I've got one more question.... Has anyone seen or made a good (PC) crawdad trap? I know a jug of whisky will bring in the only Crawdads I know (Jerry)....but I'm interested in them little lobster types. I'm thinking they would be made like a fish trap....a willow basket of sorts, or mebbe out of some kind of netting. I'd like to build one (or two) for a camp up on Cooper Lake in September...... Ain't nothin quite like some hot, spicy, hor-de-ours in camp! Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:40:09 -0600 From: Ole Jensen <olebjensen@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: : Old Timers Camp on 7/19/02 10:14 AM, Ronald Schrotter at mail4dog@yahoo.com wrote: > Why, that should truly make it better than ever! Any > plans for reconstructing the cabins as discussed last > time? Dog, Hiv. #617 > > --- Ole Jensen <olebjensen@earthlink.net> wrote: >> on 7/18/02 9:10 PM, Ronald Schrotter at >> mail4dog@yahoo.com wrote: >> >>> Ole, I understand that Boneyventure is closed. >> Where >>> do you plan on holding it this time? Dog >>> --- Ole Jensen <olebjensen@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> Hello the Camp! >>>> October 4,5 and 6 The Poisen River Party will be >>>> holding our 3 "Geezer Camp" >>>> Please come and camp with us and enjoy the >>>> discussions with some of the long >>>> time members of the AMM. For the past 3 years we >>>> have had a great time >>>> getting together for some shooting and primitive >>>> archery. >>>> Ole >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------- >>>>> hist_text list info: >>>> >> http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------- >>>> hist_text list info: >>> http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes >>> http://autos.yahoo.com >>> >>> ---------------------- >>> hist_text list info: >> http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >> Dog, >> Fort Bueneventura is now run by Weber County and >> it's steering committee >> which Dick James and I are both members. The >> Committee has members of the >> AMM, ALRA, Free mountain Trapers. Dick and I are >> also on the planning >> Committee and developing a long range plan for a >> living historic park, >> things have never been in better shape. >> Ole >> >> >> ---------------------- >> hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes > http://autos.yahoo.com > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html Dog, Two of the cabins have been re done but not verry well and the third cabin has yet to be done. Ole - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:07:36 -0500 From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps Magpie, If'n you promise to always "suck the heads" here's how to catch mudbugs by the bucketful. A square of net about 3X3 to which you tie a rock to each corner and a large wad of beef melt in the center. Attach each corner to a rope which is gathered and attached to a single pull rope. Throw out to any good deep dropoffs and allow to sink to the bottom. Leave on the bottom till you figure its covered with crawdads, hoist it up and dump off in a 5 gallon pail, throw back in often enough you have 4 times more than you think you need. I find lakes the most productive. If you don't get'm with this rig they ain't there. John... At 01:58 PM 7/19/02, you wrote: >Klahowya....again, >I've got one more question.... Has anyone seen or made a good (PC) crawdad >trap? I know a jug of whisky will bring in the only Crawdads I know >(Jerry)....but I'm interested in them little lobster types. I'm thinking >they would be made like a fish trap....a willow basket of sorts, or mebbe out >of some kind of netting. I'd like to build one (or two) for a camp up on >Cooper Lake in September...... Ain't nothin quite like some hot, spicy, >hor-de-ours in camp! > >Magpie > >---------------------- "A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on Earth... and what no just government should refuse." --Thomas Jefferson - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:54:20 -0600 From: James and Sue Stone <jandsstone@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps Another favored bait where I come (New Orleans) from is chicken necks...and they often got them mudbugs with a net suspended from a large round ring. I don't really know if yankee crawfish have the same taste for chicken though. Sue Stone jandsstone@earthlink.net John Kramer wrote: > > Magpie, > > If'n you promise to always "suck the heads" here's how to catch mudbugs by > the bucketful. > > A square of net about 3X3 to which you tie a rock to each corner and a > large wad of beef melt in the center. Attach each corner to a rope which > is gathered and attached to a single pull rope. > > Throw out to any good deep dropoffs and allow to sink to the bottom. Leave > on the bottom till you figure its covered with crawdads, hoist it up and > dump off in a 5 gallon pail, throw back in often enough you have 4 times > more than you think you need. I find lakes the most productive. > > If you don't get'm with this rig they ain't there. > > John... > > At 01:58 PM 7/19/02, you wrote: > >Klahowya....again, > >I've got one more question.... Has anyone seen or made a good (PC) crawdad > >trap? I know a jug of whisky will bring in the only Crawdads I know > >(Jerry)....but I'm interested in them little lobster types. I'm thinking > >they would be made like a fish trap....a willow basket of sorts, or mebbe out > >of some kind of netting. I'd like to build one (or two) for a camp up on > >Cooper Lake in September...... Ain't nothin quite like some hot, spicy, > >hor-de-ours in camp! > > > >Magpie > > > >---------------------- > > "A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every > government on Earth... and what no just government should > refuse." --Thomas Jefferson > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:54:55 -0700 From: "larry pendleton" <yrrw@airmail.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Mold for Brown Bess, .75 Cal. << Round ball, of course, .735 dia. >> Henry, I shot a Bess for years using a .715 cast ball and a .020 ticking patch. It worked real good. Brother 'Bones' still shots that same gun and the same load very successfully. LP - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:58:35 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps In a message dated 7/19/02 1:15:16 PM, kramer@kramerize.com writes: << A square of net about 3X3 to which you tie a rock to each corner and a large wad of beef melt in the center. Attach each corner to a rope which is gathered and attached to a single pull rope. >> I was wondering how you could get the net to lie flat on the bottom after ya threw it in.....John. I think what I'd do is mebbe make a 36" willow hoop, weight it enough to sink, and tie the lift ropes to extra netting on the sides. Then when ya lift it, the little critters wouldn't rocket off the sides.... Now....for a trap you could leave over night, I like Capt Lahti's idea of the willow basket like trap..... I've got lottsa willow here, so I'll build at least one shortly and try it. Looks like an all day job to make.... I borrowed a comercial metal mesh, crawdad trap from a buddy and put it in the stream below my place last night. Baited with a chicken neck, I caught ONE crawdad when I checked this afternoon! ....might have to defrost sumtin for dinner at this rate....<G> Sue wrote: <> Yup....they like chicken, bacon, and even a tin of cat food works I hear. I know them YANKEE crawdads do grow bigger and taste better.....<G> Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:08:10 -0500 From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps It doesn't seem to matter the mudbugs get tangled in the netting trying to get to the melt. They keep trying straight into the bucket. I have a nearby bluff to drop a net over into fairly deep water, and it's never been a problem. Spreading the net out flat with a double willow bow couldn't hurt. Best craw-fishing is done late at night, with beer. John... At 05:58 PM 7/19/02, you wrote: >In a message dated 7/19/02 1:15:16 PM, kramer@kramerize.com writes: > ><< A square of net about 3X3 to which you tie a rock to each corner and a >large wad of beef melt in the center. Attach each corner to a rope which >is gathered and attached to a single pull rope. >> > >I was wondering how you could get the net to lie flat on the bottom after ya >threw it in.....John. I think what I'd do is mebbe make a 36" willow hoop, >weight it enough to sink, and tie the lift ropes to extra netting on the >sides. Then when ya lift it, the little critters wouldn't rocket off the >sides.... > > >Magpie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." Mark Twain - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:28:28 -0700 From: Alan Avery <aravery@shaw.ca> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps "...Best craw-fishing is done late at night, with beer..." Is the beer for you or the crawdads?? Inquiring minds NEED to know... Black Knife - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:52:13 -0500 From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps Now that's one of the dark secrets we're not allowed to tell. Now imagine you're out at a lake, late at night with a case of cold ones, what are you going to do? First instinct is probably right -- unless you're wierd. John... At 07:28 PM 7/19/02, you wrote: >"...Best craw-fishing is done late at night, with beer..." > > >Is the beer for you or the crawdads?? > > > >Inquiring minds NEED to know... > >Black Knife ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "A free people ought . . . to be armed . . ." - --George Washington, speech of January 7, 1790, printed in the Boston Independent Chronicle, January 14, 1790. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:27:39 -0400 From: "Double Edge Forge" <deforge1@bright.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps - --" unless you're wierd." John... He is.. D - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:41:15 -0700 From: Alan Avery <aravery@shaw.ca> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: crawdad traps "...--" unless you're wierd." John... He is.. D..." HEY! I resemble that remark!! I'll have you know that I rise every morning with all the other weird people, and then kneel and face Ohio, where our King lives,surrounded by fire, smoke and hot iron... But are we talking about American beer, or real beer??<G> Black Knife "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." - - George Orwell - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:28:55 EDT From: LivingInThePast@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Conversion Tables - --part1_160.10f85ba7.2a6c4957_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry for the cross-posting, but I can't remember which of these lists had this thread: To those who were looking a while back... PC Magazine has a free utility this month called TapeCalc 2. This contains a set of conversion tables for Storage, Teperature, Time, Volume, Weight, etc, AND also contains a calculator that prints a tape of your steps on the screen, which can then be printed out for a hard copy. Here's the link.... <A HREF="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,372847,00.asp">TapeCalc 2: Tape Your Calculations</A> Barney - --part1_160.10f85ba7.2a6c4957_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML>Sorry for the cross-posting, but I can't remember which of these lists had this thread: To those who were looking a while back... PC Magazine has a free utility this month called TapeCalc 2. This contains a set of conversion tables for Storage, Teperature, Time, Volume, Weight, etc, AND also contains a calculator that prints a tape of your steps on the screen, which can then be printed out for a hard copy. Here's the link.... <A HREF="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,372847,00.asp">TapeCalc 2: Tape Your Calculations</A> Barney</HTML> - --part1_160.10f85ba7.2a6c4957_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #1063 ******************************** - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.