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hats-digest           Thursday, July 5 2001           Volume 02 : Number 248




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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 11:44:27 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) On Tuesday

<<I finally got the "Pop Goes The World" album on CD after years of cassette.

Just wondering if anyone knows what the song 'On Tuesday' is about.>>

For that matter, does anyone else get the feeling that whole album is written
as a soundtrack to the "Date With An Angel" movie?


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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 09:44:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: goreal <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) On Tuesday

From Ivan's intro to the song for the Atlanta show (4/88 - anyone else
there??), Tuesday is the (Roman) god of war, and On Tuesday is an
attempt to "appease those gods.."

From http://www.indepthinfo.com/weekdays/tuesday.shtml


The word "Tuesday", however, was derived from a wholly different
religious tradition. Tyr or Tiw was the Norse God of War. When the
Germanic Angles and Saxon's invaded England in the 500's they suplanted
a culture that had been heavily influenced by Rome for several hundred
years. The day, Tuesday, had already been named for the Roman God of
War, Martius (notice in French, Italian, and Spanish - the word for
Tuesday is still derivative of the Roman God - Mardi, Martedi and
Martes - respectively). When the Germanic tribes conquered England,
they layed their own lexicon over that of the Roman's so that the Norse
God of War now supplanted the Roman God of War (after all the Norse God
was obviously more potent). Thus they called the day of the God of War
tiwesdaeg.


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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 14:58:04 -0400
From: "Daniele Rossi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) On Tuesday

> From Ivan's intro to the song for the Atlanta show (4/88 - anyone else
> there??), Tuesday is the (Roman) god of war, and On Tuesday is an
> attempt to "appease those gods.."

and

>>When the Germanic tribes conquered England,
> they layed their own lexicon over that of the Roman's so that the Norse
> God of War now supplanted the Roman God of War (after all the Norse God
> was obviously more potent). Thus they called the day of the God of War
> tiwesdaeg.

Thanks for answering my questions and giving me a little history lesson! :)
So could this be applied to all the other references to Tuesday I keep
hearing?  Such as Amanda Marshall's album "Tuesday's Child" and David
Bowie's song with a similar name (I forget which day of the week he used)?



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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 22:10:01 -0400
From: "Angela Tooley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) On Tuesday

> From Ivan's intro to the song for the Atlanta show (4/88 - anyone
else
> there??), Tuesday is the (Roman) god of war, and On Tuesday is an
> attempt to "appease those gods.."


Is this a quote from Ivan or are we all just reading way too much
into that song?


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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 20:19:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: goreal <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) On Tuesday

> > From Ivan's intro to the song for the Atlanta show (4/88 - anyone
> else
> > there??), Tuesday is the (Roman) god of war, and On Tuesday is an
> > attempt to "appease those gods.."
>

that's a quote..!

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Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 01:34:03 -0500
From: "Matt McCarthy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Update

The MWH site has an update...


I wonder if they would let us come up to Canada and watch the creation of
this new album/CD?

We could do it 'On Tuesday'.


MMM



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Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 10:25:44 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Re: Good-but-obscure synth-pop

Hi folks,

I wanted to say thanks to all those who took the trouble to post
recommendations following my request. What I wanted to know when asking was,
what is the current state of play in the world of synth-pop - not chart
stuff (uh, does synth-pop get in the charts anywhere now anyway?), but via
indie labels and the internet?

It has been very interesting both to see what people listen to, and to
follow up on some suggestions. Soooo, I just thought it might be interesting
to provide a reaction - although I must emphasise this is intended in the
spirit of generating a discussion, not to piss anybody off...

First, I was surprised at how doomy things are. Synth-pop nowadays seems to
have taken the kind of gothy, Ultravox part of the 80s aesthetic, and
concentrated on the one hand on that aspect of the sound. (On the other
hand, there is the verging-on-techno-but-not-quite, long-ish instrumental
strand of stuff.) I suppose what I am saying here is - God, this is a
"movement" that takes itself seriously. There is so little sense of fun to
any of it. This set me thinking (partly to keep this on topic :-): are MWH
doomy, gloomy and generally miserable? What about humour in MWH songs?

Second, it was interesting to see how very, very differently people defined
the phrase, "good-but-obscure synth-pop". Of course everyone has their own
take on it - I was thinking of funny little blippy electropop records,
myself - but we had everything from Gary Numan to Freur. So, this set me
thinking, too - did anybody else follow up a recommendation and (more to the
point) find anything new that they liked? Is that a deafening silence I
hear?

Mike




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Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 17:39:41 +0300 (EEST)
From: Johan Hindstrom INF <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) What movie?

There's a movie I once saw...
During the intro text and a little bit into the movie
the soundtrack was the INTRO from PGTW.
You know, the "Can you hear me out there?" -bit.

What's the name of the movie.. anyone?

    - Johan




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Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 15:33:17 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Ivan's new CD?

I was in Montreal this past weekend and I stopped in MARS music shop (I'm sure Montrealians will be familiar with this shop)

It is the small CD/record/tape/poster store that just moved on St. Catherines underneath Pharaprix....

anyway, the guy in there told me he was reading the mirror, a local music magazine, and that Ivan had a new CD coming out....not MWH but Ivan....and I'm not talking about the Spell..

Is there any truth to this rumor?

Collin


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