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hats-digest         Monday, September 11 2000         Volume 02 : Number 214




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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 03:01:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lord Hasenpfeffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re: Bootlegs update

> I'm still looking for these discs, anyone interested in a trade?
> Let me know what you're looking for...

> 38:11 IVAN LIVE 1997 (mastered at incorrect, slow speed)

I have the above referenced CD transferred to MiniDisc with the pitch
adjusted to be correct and true-to-life.  I did this by synchronizing
the beats of "I Feel Love" in the concert recording to the beats of
"I Feel Love" in the soundcheck recording which appears in the 1997
videotape recorded by the kewlest Ivan fans subscribed to this list.
Since videotape employs tracking to ensure that tapes playback at
the same speed at which they are recorded, I felt I could use that
video as a reliable source for obtaining the correct playback pitch
for the live Ivan concert - assuming, of course, that the tempo setting
for "I Feel Love" at both events was one and the same.

To the best of my knowledge, Stefan was not a part of Ivan's "The Spell"
solo album or promotional mini-tour in 1997.

Perhaps we can work out a trade for this particular item.

Given that it's an audience recording, I seriously doubt that it's
being considered for "official" release status at any time in the future.

Myke


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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 00:07:23 -0700
From: jon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Re: Bootlegs update

>To the best of my knowledge, Stefan was not a part of Ivan's "The Spell"
>solo album or promotional mini-tour in 1997.
>
>Perhaps we can work out a trade for this particular item.
>
>Given that it's an audience recording, I seriously doubt that it's
>being considered for "official" release status at any time in the future.

Probaby ver true, I'd be interested in hearing that, does anyone have hte
"Open your eyes" remixes? I lost an Ebay auction for that, and would really
like to hear them. I have tons of rare remixes, by MWH and many other artists.

I can offer a CD-r copy of the Pop Goes the world Interview LP (from 1987.)
If anyone is interested, let me know...
Jon



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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 03:31:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lord Hasenpfeffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re: Bootlegs Update

> I can offer a CD-r copy of the Pop Goes the world Interview LP (from 1987.)
> If anyone is interested, let me know...

Hmmm... Now that's something I don't have.

In fact, there was *nothing* from the PGTW-era (which hadn't already been
officially released) to be found on any of the CDs produced by the members
of this list - back when this list was actually something fun to be subscribed
to - back before "he" came along and did what he did with no good reason and
drained away its lifeblood.

Myke


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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 13:17:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lord Hasenpfeffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re: Bootlegs Update

> ...but you're not bitter about it or anything, right?  ;-)

Right.  ;-)

Myke



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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 18:49:58 -0400
From: "Daniele Rossi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) WATCH YOUR TONGUES!

Ok ok ok ok ok ok OK enough with the beware-of-Stefan talk! GEESH! :)  It's
just a rare promo LP given to radio stations (I assume.  But you know what
happens when you assume!).  Besides, just do what other lists do.  Privately
e-mail each other (I wonder if that's already been happening?).  Haven't we
learned anything from the Napster mess? :)







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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 22:30:35 -0700
From: jon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Re: Bootlegs Update

>In fact, there was *nothing* from the PGTW-era (which hadn't already been
>officially released) to be found on any of the CDs produced by the members
>of this list - back when this list was actually something fun to be
subscribed
>to - back before "he" came along and did what he did with no good reason and
>drained away its lifeblood.

That's why I mentioned it...I noticed nobody had put this on CDr before, so
I could definitely do it. I would still like to hear all those bootlegs
since I'm still an Ivan fan!

Jon



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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:03:32 -0400
From: "Walker, Keith (Imprimis)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Big Mountain 2000/Bootleg Update

Has anyone mentioned the new info on the Big Mountain and Bootleg albums?
Go to http://www.menwithouthats.com for tentative titles, loose content
descriptions and ballpark release dates.

Keith Walker
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:29:48 -0400
From: "Walker, Keith (Imprimis)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) MWH links (encouraging news for Tony?)

I also noticed on the links page, Stefan (he is the one who maintains the
MWH site, isn't he?) has put up a link saying "If you want to discuss MWH
with other folks or take part in a MWH tribute album, go here".  Correct me
if I'm wrong (and I *know* you will), but I think this means that Stefan is
okay with the project and is, at least, willing to work with Tony on the
licensing.  Or did we already know this?  And, BTW, Tony, what are you
thinking of using as a title?  Should we nominate ideas (I have none, at the
moment), or is there already one locked-in?

Keith Walker
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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 11:38:03 -0500
From: Kevin Lentz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Big Mountain 2000/Bootleg Update

I'm confused. I was under the impression that the Big Mountain Sessions
would
include material we hadn't heard yet. Although I'm thrilled to read that
MWH
is preparing an entire album of "Brand New Material," the way the page
reads
leads me to understand that the CD release this fall will only include
material from the bootlegs. Am I misreading something? Help!

- -

Kevin Lentz



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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 12:48:39 -0400
From: "Steve Jackson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Big Mountain 2000/Bootleg Update

- ---- Kevin Lentz <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> I'm confused. I was under the impression that the Big Mountain
> Sessions would include material we hadn't heard yet. Although
> I'm thrilled to read that MWH is preparing an entire album of
> "Brand New Material," the way the page reads leads me to
> understand that the CD release this fall will only include
> material from the bootlegs. Am I misreading something? Help!
>
> Kevin Lentz

To me, it sounded like two releases were being talked about in the same
paragraph.  At first, he says that the new material wouldn't be ready
until 2001 sometime.  Then he mentions a "rare recordings" CD that might
be out this fall, which would contain old stuff that we possibly haven't
heard.

Time to start saving my money...

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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 03:48:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lord Hasenpfeffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Tribute Name

"Hats Off!" (with an exclamation point).  That's definitely the best title.

Myke


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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 08:35:43 -0400
From: "Dave Mattingly" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Tribute Name

>"Hats Off!" (with an exclamation point).  That's definitely the best title.

That's my favorite, although "Tip o' the Hat" runs close.

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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 09:26:14 -0700
From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Tribute Name

I like "Stefan, please don't sue us" as the title. :)

- -Richard

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"Hats Off!" (with an exclamation point).  That's definitely the best title.

Myke




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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 15:29:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lord Hasenpfeffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Tribute Name

> I like "Stefan, please don't sue us" as the title. :)

Yeah, now that I think about it, that's probably the best title!
"Hats Off!" is just too dreamy and idealistic.
"Stefan, please don't sue us" is more from the real world.
And aren't we trying to get to the real world after all?

Myke


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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 14:15:55 -0700
From: "Aaron Gitlin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) hmmm...

Question for you all -

What genre would Sideways fit under?  It seems to me like a mix between rock
and country.  I'm not exactly sure which one it is, though.

I also emailed Stephan asking him who the band lineup would be on the new
album.  Anyone around here nkow the answer to that one?


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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 00:45:11 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Johan Hindstrom INF <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) hmmm...

On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Aaron Gitlin wrote:

> What genre would Sideways fit under?  It seems to me like a mix between rock
> and country.  I'm not exactly sure which one it is, though.


I'd say it's mostly guitar-rock.. pure and simple.
However.. you can detect distinct "Hats" patterns in
the structures if you dig a bit. :)

           - Johan



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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 00:52:58 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Johan Hindstrom INF <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) MWH links (encouraging news for Tony?)

On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Kevin Lentz wrote:

> Last spring someone suggested "Hats Off" which I thought was pretty
> cool, since it's a tribute album. Someone else suggested "It Sounds
> Familiar, But It Doesn't Sound the Same" which I like, but seems a bit
> long. "Hats Off" has my vote!


These titles are by far the best.. both of them.. so what to do?
Well, they are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
Check this out:
    "Hats Off! - It sounds familiar, but it doesn't sound the same"
Like a subtitle added to the common title Hats Off.
This way we can have our cake and eat it and the title wouldn't
be too long! It's still "Hats Off!".
Think about it!

               - Johan



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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 20:23:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lord Hasenpfeffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) hmmm...

> What genre would Sideways fit under?

Old.  :)

Pop/Rock?

Myke, who always liked Pop Rocks...



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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 20:25:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lord Hasenpfeffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) MWH links (encouraging news for Tony?)

> "Hats Off! - It sounds familiar, but it doesn't sound the same"

I think you've got it, man!

Myke


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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:41:19 -0400
From: "Kerry Gordon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Tribute Name

How 'bout "For The Mad Hatter"?

Or would that be for a different tribute?

Kerry

>>> Lord Hasenpfeffer <[e-mail]> Saturday, September 09, 2000 =
3:48:40 AM >>>

"Hats Off!" (with an exclamation point).  That's definitely the best =
title.

Myke


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