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hats-digest          Monday, October 4 1999          Volume 02 : Number 157




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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 19:58:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lord Hasenpfeffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Life After Diamond Head

I created my own rendition of "Life After Diamond Head" back when
we were discussing this project the first time.  I would still like
to submit it because I didn't make it so that nobody else could hear it,
however, in protest of the way in which Stefan handled the situation
with Richard Holdman, I will keep it to myself after all.

Sorry, but Stefan really should apologize for being so tactless and rude.

Myke


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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 01:19:56 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Life After Diamond Head

In a message dated 10/1/99 5:00:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< Myke >>

Yes, Stefan was quite a rude bastard.


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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:39:44 -0700
From: "Aaron Gitlin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (hats) Life After Diamond Head

"however, in protest of the way in which Stefan handled the situation
with Richard Holdman, I will keep it to myself after all."

Honestly, I would do the exact opposite.  Yes, he was quite rude, but he can
go to h***.  Music was created to be shared, and we should do so...think of
it as spitting back in his face, I mean, come on, he did produce that
CD...and if you did a better production job, then it obviously proves his
ego is bigger than his talent.  Please, share the song with us - even if it
doesn't go no the compilation, at least we'll ge tto hear it.





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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 18:26:59 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Picture discs

Hey gang!

I saw some people talking, here and there,  about the Safety dance picture
disc.  I have also in my possession the "I got the message" picture disc.

Is there any other picture disc available????  Are you aware about any other
format?

Ciao!

Francis


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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 16:12:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Picture discs

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> Hey gang!
>
> I saw some people talking, here and there,  about the Safety dance picture
> disc.  I have also in my possession the "I got the message" picture disc.
>
> Is there any other picture disc available????  Are you aware about any other
> format?

There's the Rhythm of Youth LP picture disc.


dave



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Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 14:44:19 EDT
From: "katherine smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Stephan

I have no intention of judging any one person for any one thing, but
I really believe that Stephan was only doing what he thought was the right
thing to do. I know that by saying that I am going to be on a "list " of my
own. I don't understand why every one is still picking on Stephan. Is he not
just as entitled to his opinion as the people on the list? This is HIS
property we are talking about. And if anyone has a right to say any thing it
should be Stephan and Ivan. Has anyone ask Ivan how HE feels? I believe, And
again this is just my opinion......That just because we are these big Men
without hats fans, That does not give us "carte blanche", To take and or
reproduce any material that has not been given to us by the artists
themselves!
There it is!  Not a popular opinion, I know.
When I first discovered the list. I was in heaven! I have been a fan
forever, and yet I never heard anything from "Freeways"! I was so happy to
find this site because I am still a Men without hats fan!
So trust me , You are doing so much good, But please lets stop picking on
Stephan! Maybe he was a little strong, but "a rude bastard" ?????????? Come
on people.....We don't know what he or Ivan has been through. For all we
know his feelings were justified, In any case his feelings were honest, And
he did what he thought he had to do. Have you all forgotten that Stephan is
a significant part of "Men Without Hats"????  Teal

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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 14:14:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: The Elendilrandiri <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Stephan

AGREED.
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Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 18:00:45 -0400
From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) oh brother! Literally! :)

>I have no intention of judging any one person for any one thing, but
>I really believe that Stephan was only doing what he thought was the right
>thing to do. I know that by saying that I am going to be on a "list " of my
>own. I don't understand why every one is still picking on Stephan. Is he not
>just as entitled to his opinion as the people on the list? This is HIS
>property we are talking about. And if anyone has a right to say any thing it


>should be Stephan and Ivan. Has anyone ask Ivan how HE feels? I believe, And
>again this is just my opinion......That just because we are these big Men

Actually we did :)  The chat with Ivan we had a while ago, he was asked
what he thought about bootlegging.  He gave us a vague reply
actually.....hm.  He was personally shown some bootlegs the list produced
and he was proud of them.  Bruce Murphy seemed ok with it.

But I do agree that we should stop picking on Stephan.  Not every single
member has to be approving of our ideals.  Stephan said some terrible
things and attacked some members directly but he was only protecting his
and his brothers' artwork.  Remember, we learned that Marc Durand stole
their recordings (as far as we really know that is.  We never heard his
side) so I think maybe we should keep that in mind about his eruptions.  He
made an ugly mark on this list and well, that's as far as we should keep
it.  So many groups have members who stink and have rather unpleseant
behaviour.  Stephan doesn't like SELLING bootlegs so be it.  It isn't
murder, drugs, sleeping with a prostitute, or joining a racist group.



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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:31:39 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) I Know Their Words (well, not completely)

Does anybody want to venture a suggestion for the lyrics in the song Heaven????

Even if it's wrong, i think it would be funny to see everybody's take on it.
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Nobody ever answered my previuous question either.
Whatever happened to that remix of I got the Message that was supposed to come out in 1999 by that New Age Record Co. that does all the revamped 80's dance songs???????
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I think it's time somebody makes a nice men without hats shirt.....nothing too fancy....just a small logo (not centered like the e-mail ones....those just look to cyber-ee....can't somebody just make a shirt where on the front it says men without hats by the pocket and on the back maybe there's the freeways lines (like what is pictured in the Live Concert in Montreal)

What do you think???
Am I the only one with my thinking hat on?

- --collin from savannah--


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Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 23:11:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lord Hasenpfeffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Stephan

There is a big difference between Stefan's intent and Stefan's method.
I am not judging his intent.  That's his business.  His method, however,
sucks big green donkey dongs.  He could have been polite first.

Myke


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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:49:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) shirts 2.0

> I think it's time somebody makes a nice men without hats shirt.....nothing too fancy....just a small logo (not centered like the e-mail ones....those just look to cyber-ee....can't somebody just make a shirt where on the front it says men without hats by the pocket and on the back maybe there's the freeways lines (like what is pictured in the Live Concert in Montreal)

Sure, we can even buy those iron-on transparencies which can go into any
printer. Maybe a few can design the artwork which go on the shirt and
everyone can download them :)  I wouldn't mind making a few designs.  Hey,
we can mix and match!  A few design the front a few design the back.  We
can even have it "released" at the same time as the cover CD! :)  I'd love
to design some.



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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:57:22 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Stephan

Hi!

I think when a band become very popular, It's normal that people are trying
to get show version of their songs.

 Like some people here wrote before,  There is many douzens of bootlegs on
the rolling stones, led zepellin, etc.

Stephan has the right to be against the bootlegs, but it's something the real
fans are dying for.  I know, I am one of them and I have all the bootlegs.
Those bootlegs and those demos gave me a new start for Men without hats.  May
be Stephan can published himself the bootlegs.  I don't mind paying him 15$
for each new bootlegs he could burn for us.

Ciao

Francis


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