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hats-digest          Friday, October 2 1998          Volume 02 : Number 094




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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:08:42 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) ?

'
I also think that sometimes ivan's voice sounds rather notsogood when he
performs live. i do not know why. notice on the video tape with some excerpts
of the sideways show live how his voice is rather ....well- unmelodic?! sounds
kind of like he is sort of talking and singing at the same time. does it in
the ivan show that was recorded also.  listening to david bowie doing it right
now too.

Ivan also messes up lines regularly live. he does it in the freeways show.
Cause the way he writes is he says very similar things in different parts of
the song.
example: we can dance if we want to     we can leave your friends behind
              "                                      "    we've got all your
life and mine
              "                                      "    night is young and
so am i
and so on
it can be difficult to remember which one goes where, especially when one is
in a state of mind sort of outside of time.............

  just my thoughts on the matter.

anyone elses?


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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 98 21:03:57 -0000
From: Toren Valimir <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) ?

personally, i think that half of it is artistic licence to purposefully
alter lyrics for concert... i mean no one want's to see a concert
that is exactly like the record, right..? sure he could have simply
screwed up the lyrics (alot of bands do) but ask yourself if it
could have been intentional... it could change your perspctive

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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 09:34:30 -0400
From: Brad Hull <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) ?

I too have noticed that Ivan has occasional "voice trouble" and misses
lines live.  Could he maybe suffer from at least mild stage fright?  If you
watch some live recordings he looks uncomfortable, misses words, and even
appears to shake sometimes.

If memory serves, at the Toronto show in 1997 he got several lines mixed
up, particularly in Open Your Eyes.  I also think he didn't look very
comfortable up there.

I dunno, maybe he does like to mix things up a little for variety or
artistic license.

Any more thoughts??

Brad


>    Does anybody know why Ivan's voice sounds so horrible in the ROY
>Live boot? Also he flubs lines in Great Ones Remember and Safety Dance. In
>Ideas for Walls, he practically loses his voice. Yeah, by the end, moderne
>dancing and things in my life sound good....
>
>any comments?
>
Brad Hull
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:38:43 +0200
From: Josefsson Per-Johan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) ?

I have always been thinking that MWH live performances are
very good, including Ivan's singing. I think that the way
he sings differently (thinking more about phrasing (changing tones etc)
than mixing lines) in concert compared to the studio versions
is because he puts more emotion into the singing and I really like that.

I was really happily surprised by the good live performance of MWH
when I first heard of it (the boots). Many other synth band from the
same period are not very talented live musicians and I had a fear that
would go for MWH as well.

The mixing of lines though, might, to some degree, be because of
that Ivan doesnt manage to remember correctly. But sometimes
I beleive it's intentional.

/PJ.




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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 12:09:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: goreal <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) sale/trade 21stCentury single promo??

Hi,

..if someone has an original copy of the "21st Century" single promo
and is willing to sell it - or trade for almost any other Hats item -
please let me know!

Thanks,

Jim
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:08:22 -0700
From: Monsieur Antoine Roquentin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re: 2-fer

Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer wrote:
>
> Hi hatters!
>
> Some folks have asked about the 2-fer and T's.  I'm the T lady and
> have become the surrogate 2-fer person.
>
> The 2-fer is not available in the US or Canada, but I arranged to get
> some via Mike Best in England (you're a god, Moose!).  If you are
> interested in a 2-fer, email me privately *next week*.  I'm in the
> middle of a pinch at work, a vet crisis, a remodeling my kitchen
> crisis, and I'm going out of town this weekend.  AAAAACK!

Got and 2-fer's left? Put me on the list if you do :)

    Monsieur Antoine Roquentin


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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 03:59:44 -0000
From: "Polare Bear" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) New hatter!

Hello all!

     In keeping with traditional mailing list decorum, allow me to introduce
myself!  I've been a fellow hatter for 15 years now and have since been
lucky enough to acquire much rare MWH vinyl such as the hour long Montreal
Mirror interview from 1988 on LP, a few Argentina 7", the Safety Dance
shaped disc and the picture disc LP of ROY.
     I briefly owned the FOTE CD in my teen years for $12.99 on the MCA
label, but promptly returned it for it didn't include the listed 12" mix of
Where Do The Boys Go.  I've been kicking myself ever since!
     On a lighter note, I was fortunate enough to see Ivan open for Duran
Duran in Toronto in December.  I made quite a nice stereo boot of it as well
(for personal use only of course, although I would love to trade for any MHW
video, even Safety Dance).  Speaking of trading video, I have MWH's
appearance on the Ross Schaffer show doing PGTW in 1987, and also a video of
the short-lived US Top Of The Pops appearance from the same year if anyone
is interested.
     For Gary Numan fans, I run the Gary Numan North American Fan Club.  I
use to publish monthly fanzines but these days it exists for all to enjoy on
the WWW at:
http://members.aol.com/PolareBear/Machman.html
     For Numan traders, I have hundreds of live shows on audio and video if
you are interested.
     Anyway, greetings to all and I look forward to membership on this
awesome list.

Jim "Mad Hatter" Napier
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Ithaca, NY



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