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glencook-fans-digest     Tuesday, October 14 2003     Volume 01 : Number 268




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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 16:14:18 -0500
From: Steve Harris <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Re: any mail in the past week?

Hi,

Has there been any mail the past week?  I wonder if my mail feed is
still blocked.

Steve

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:24:10 -0400
From: Steve Chew <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: any mail in the past week?

>
>Has there been any mail the past week?  I wonder if my mail feed is
>still blocked.
>

    Last one that I got was from Sept. 26th.

            Steve

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:10:27 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: Lee Childs <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Archon

Will anyone be attending Archon 27 in Collinsvill, TN, or Icon 28 in Cedar Rapids, IA?  Glen Cook is mentioned a guest at these events and it would be great to learn what he is up to.

Lee Childs

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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 03:17:55 -0300
From: rjh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) plot theories

I realize I'm replying to an old email - but I've been having a few computer
problems recently...

David Ainsworth wrote:

>
> We also find out that the Dominator had several rather subtle plots running
> in order to free himself.  Without the intervention of the Company, the
> whole Castle seed plot might well have worked for him.
>
> Perhaps all we really know is that Lady was much better at tricking the
> Dominator than he was at tricking her...

It might also depend on the personality.  People generally have a favorite
tool, and with the Dominate it was pure power,  From _Dreams of Steal_ Pg 291

Will, Lady. The Will will reign triumphant. My husband had said that often,
confident that nothing could resist his will.
He had believed that right up to the moment I killed him.

He had a tool he knew was unbeatable.  It took a magic null, airwhale, and the
combined powers of just about everyone of note in the Lady's Empire to stop his
Will.  Why bother to develop your skills when raw force is enough? Why bother
using your skills when your preferred tool almost always works.

He wasn't into tools either.  On Pg 225 of _Dreams of Steal_ Howler "...was
impressed by the array of mystical and thaumaturgic gewgaws Longshadow had
assembled during one short generation. Such had remained scarce while they had
been in thrall to the Lady and nonexistent under the rule of her husband before
her. They had wanted no one getting independent."

The Dominator used raw power and he was the best there was with it - so no one
was going to go off and make a device that could give someone a leg up in a
fight.

I see the Dominator as a martial artist with 350 lbs of pure muscle - yes, he
knows how to apply the force to break something, but he can also break most
things with just his normal strength so he lets himself get sloppy.  Just look
at his plan to survive being beaten by the While Rose - the Black Castle.  Lots
of thought and power had to go into planning that escape but he didn't pay
attention to details.  He placed it near the ends of the Earth to make sure
that no one would discover it before he escaped and regained his power - but he
didn't bother checking on the local culture and their wierd (in that world)
fascination with bodies.  If he had just paid attention the details he would
have been active before Bomanz did his bit and he would have had a chance to
decide if he really wanted his followers active... He would have probably freed
his slaves (the Taken) but that girl who he couldn't take...

Just a bit of speculation...

Richard



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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 03:48:18 -0300
From: rjh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) plot theories

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I realize I'm replying to an old email - but I've been having a few
computer problems recently...

[e-mail] wrote:

> But everyone seems to be forgetting that while Soulcatcher discovered
> that Moonshadow was not a member of the Taken, she DID recognize him.
> She knew who he was.

Um... Maybe I missed something, but in _Dreams of Steal_ Pg 12
Soulcatcher says:
..."This isn't one of the Taken!" when the man's mask came off.
    The crows became raucous.  Discussing? Arguing? The leader asked,
"Who are you? What are you? Where did you come from?"

From that I don't think she recognized him.  From the above, I don't
think he came from the north at all.  With just the 'who' he might have
been a member of the Circle of 18 but the 'what' and 'where' tends to
rule this out.  Soulcatcher might not have know the members of the
Circle (who died a lot easier than the Taken) but she would have almost
certainly recognized the origins of any northern sorcerer.  Looking at
Moonshadow she didn't know what kind of magic he used or where he came
from.

While it's interesting to debate who was with Longshadow when he opened
the gate, we'll never know unless Cook writes about it.  How can I say
this with certainty? Because of Cook's answer when he was asked about
who the third female Taken was.
He didn't know.

Cook doesn't develop his world and then put his characters into it - he
tells a story and invents a world to fit the story.  If something isn't
needed for the story (or series) then it isn't developed.  He didn't
need a list of everyone at the gate opening so didn't write it and
probably didn't decide who was there.  If he ever retells the opening of
the gate he'll probably check his notes and old novels then come up with
something that fits.

It's a style of writing that can work but plays hell with fans who are
nitpickers and want details that aren't in the books.

Richard

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I realize I'm replying to an old email - but I've been having a few computer
problems recently...
<p>[e-mail] wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>But everyone seems
to be forgetting that while Soulcatcher discovered that Moonshadow was
not a member of the Taken, she DID recognize him. She knew who he was.</font></font></blockquote>

<p><br>Um... Maybe I missed something, but in _Dreams of Steal_ Pg 12 Soulcatcher
says:
<br>..."This isn't one of the Taken!" when the man's mask came off.
<br>    The crows became raucous.  Discussing? Arguing?
The leader asked, "Who are you? What are you? Where did you come from?"
<p>From that I don't think she recognized him.  From the above, I
don't think he came from the north at all.  With just the 'who' he
might have been a member of the Circle of 18 but the 'what' and 'where'
tends to rule this out.  Soulcatcher might not have know the members
of the Circle (who died a lot easier than the Taken) but she would have
almost certainly recognized the origins of any northern sorcerer.
Looking at Moonshadow she didn't know what kind of magic he used or where
he came from.
<p>While it's interesting to debate who was with Longshadow when he opened
the gate, we'll never know unless Cook writes about it.  How can I
say this with certainty? Because of Cook's answer when he was asked about
who the third female Taken was.
<br>He didn't know.
<p>Cook doesn't develop his world and then put his characters into it -
he tells a story and invents a world to fit the story.  If something
isn't needed for the story (or series) then it isn't developed.  He
didn't need a list of everyone at the gate opening so didn't write it and
probably didn't decide who was there.  If he ever retells the opening
of the gate he'll probably check his notes and old novels then come up
with something that fits.
<p>It's a style of writing that can work but plays hell with fans who are
nitpickers and want details that aren't in the books.
<p>Richard</html>

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:57:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Morgan DragonStar <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Hi, new here...

And wondering...


ANy info on a new Garrett book? too many cliff hangers
in the last one...


thanks
Morgan

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