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From: owner-glencook-fans-digest@lists.xmission.com (glencook-fans-digest)
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Subject: glencook-fans-digest V1 #188
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glencook-fans-digest Tuesday, May 28 2002 Volume 01 : Number 188
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 13:39:50 -0300
From: Richard Chilton <rchilton@auracom.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Silver Spike
A Turner wrote:
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> > To me, Silver Spike fits in better with the plots of Shadow Games
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> >company to the "new" one which we see in the Glittering Stones books.
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> > Steve
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> I agree about Shadow Games. There is imaginative use in Silver Spike of the
> plot of Shadow Games and the journey south to Khatovar when Raven chases
> Croaker, as well as wrapping up loose ends with the Brotherhood in the North
> (Silent, Raven, Darling) - even if it is all pretty grim.
There's a question I always ask when these two books are brought up -
which did you read first?
Personally I read Shadow Games then the Silver Spike - I'm not sure if
they were published in that order but that was the order I found them.
I know others who have read them in the other order. While the two
books don't crossover, the mear fact that they don't is a bit of a
spoiler.
Anyone know which order the books will be in when collected into the
hardcover?
> But can you say
> the same about Dreams of Steel? Everything in it seems to me to lay the
At one point Shadow Games and Dreams of Steel were looked at as the
first two books of a triology, with Glittering Stone being book three.
Glitter Stone was (SEVEN YEARS LATER) transformed into its own series,
but SG and DoS are definitely linked and intertwined.
> ground for the later books of the South. Lady's involvement with Kina, the
> appearance of the Stranglers, the birth of her daughter, the 'resurrection'
> of Soulcatcher, Howler's reappearance and alliance with Longshadow, Mogaba's
> encounter at the end with Croaker. The Brotherhood only plays a very
> peripheral role in it - if I remember rightly the only Brother besides
> Croaker to appear is Murgen, and then only briefly.
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While the company spends most of the book trapped in a city (and out of
sight) the concept of the Brotherhood dominates the book. Even while
with Soulcatcher the fate of the company dominates Croaker's thoughts,
and Lady spends her time rebuilding a company basically in memory of
Croaker.
Part of that sings out the idea of the Company. Something like:
We are the company. While one of us still stands the company stands -
and we will rebuild. And we will honor our contract as we rebuild.
Just my views,
Richard
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 03:45:17 +0100 (BST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fraser=20Ronald?= <stelm7@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Hello all.
--- Lindsay Buroker <sylvanarrow@attbi.com> wrote: >
>Newbie here. Just thought I'd say hi.
>
Welcome on board! Enjoy the ride.
> I'm trying to find some of Cook's other stuff but
> that seems to be a chore and a half. The
> Garratt(sp?) stories sound like something I would
> like but I hate to start a series with the last
> book. Are they stand-alone novels? Would I be able
> to pick up the recently published one and enjoy it?
> It seems that the first books in the series are out
> of print. I guess, I'll keep an eye on ebay.
>
While you are on Ebay, have a look for his first
"Dread Empire" trilogy: A Shadow of All Night Falling,
October's Baby and All Darkness Met. This is the
series that actually got me hooked on Cook before
Black Company came out and made me a true believer.
And though it's slagged by some, I really like the
stand-alone "Tower of Fear".
Take care!
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AtFantasy Alliance Fiction Archive (http://www.atfantasy.com/fiction)
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 00:05:59 -0500
From: Steve Harris <harrissg@slu.edu>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Hello all.
Lindsay,
The Garrett books are best read in order, I think (not too sure). But
it's *very* hard to find any but the last two or so :(
Steve
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 15:48:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Hello all.
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>Newbie here. Just thought I'd say hi.
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Welcome! :) This isn't a particularly busy list so speak up if
you have things to say.
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>I'm trying to find some of Cook's other stuff but that seems to be a =
>chore and a half. The Garratt(sp?) stories sound like something I would =
>like but I hate to start a series with the last book. Are they =
>stand-alone novels? Would I be able to pick up the recently published =
>one and enjoy it? It seems that the first books in the series are out =
>of print. I guess, I'll keep an eye on ebay. =20
>
I'd definitely recommend reading the Garrett books in order.
While each book has an independent plot the later ones depend heavily
on the background established in the earlier ones. To read the latest
ones first would be to come into the middle of a lot of issues that
probably won't make much sense. Plus, personally I enjoyed the earlier
books more.
While you're scouring used book stores keep an eye out for
the "Dread Empire" novels (starting with "A Shadow of All Night Falling").
I also enjoyed "Tower of Fear." Cook has also written some good science
fiction, especially "The Dragon Never Sleeps" and "Passage at Arms."
Good luck and let us know what you think of what you find.
Steve
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