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glencook-fans-digest      Friday, April 12 2002      Volume 01 : Number 175




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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 09:05:59 -0600
From: "Dr. Elmo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) The Dragon Never Sleeps, missing chapter 152

Steve Harris wondered aloud to the group:
 >This is a hack job, and not a skillful one.

When strange and unlikely things are posted in springtime, it's often a
useful exercise to check the timestamp and the calendar.
- --
"REALISTIC ORIGIN COMICS: SUPERMAN.  The young Kryptonian, born under the red
sun of Krypton, now felt the much brighter yellow sunlight of Earth for the
first time.  The radiations worked changes on his very cells.  Tragically,
the higher level of ultraviolet radiation gave Kal-El almost immediate third
degree sunburn, and the last son of Krypton died of skin cancer a few
painful months later."--Mike Schiffer et al.

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:19:52 -0800
From: "Z" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) missing chapter 152

ack, don't pass it outside the mailing list.  it was meant
as a bit of humour for the fans of the mailing list who
had read ANGRY LEAD SKIES (which would possibly
be everyone, since we are all fans, no?).




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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 14:23:31 -0600
From: David Ainsworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Angry Lead Skies ***SPOILER ALERT***

At 12:15 PM 3/25/2002 -0800, Matt Patterson - Editor d' Ooze wrote:
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>If there is only one more book, Cook really does have to tie up a bunch of
>plotlines around whatever main plot the next one's going to be. 1) the whole
>Secret Police thread is probably going to come to a head around Chodo's
>party or something similar. And that should also wrap the Belinda thread
>too. 2) in order for Garrett and Tinnie to really cement their relationship,
>she's going to be put in Jeopardy again. 3) I'm not sure what's going to
>happen to Morley, but I'd guess he will probably legitimize himself more.

I agree regarding the mystery aspects (most of which seem to peter out
pretty quickly), though I can't help but wonder if Cook isn't seeding a lot
of extra threads around in this book for his next one.  The mysterious and
magicked boots may make another appearance, for example... and I expect the
ratmen will be very important in the next book.

I have to wonder, too, about whether the Dead Man is really what Garrett
thinks he is.  Garrett comments this time around that perhaps the Dead Man
keeps info from him because he isn't a reliable keeper of secrets.  We have
seen in the past the sort of power (at distance) that a Logyr can project,
and while there's every indication that they need rest from time to time, I
wonder at the Dead Man's flurry of activity (setting lots of things up)
followed by his mysterious silence.  Is it a plot device (Casey turning the
telepathic tables and putting DM to sleep) or a hint at something else?

Observations--the Dead Man has been studying Glory Mooncalled
intensely.  Glory Mooncalled (at least initially) seemed very concerned
with advancing the rights of the non-human races.  The Dead Man has adopted
a number of Mooncalled's innovative tactics himself (his use of Mr Big as a
scout, the recent association with pixies).  There have been strong
overtones--especially in ALS with the attention drawn to the ratpeople and
their lack of rights--of some brewing conflict and/or resolution of certain
racial problems in TunFaire.

I have to wonder if the Dead Man isn't carefully manipulating the situation
to pull a Glory Mooncalled of his own.  Total silence from him may
indicate, not that he's sleeping, but that all of his attention is focused
at distance on other affairs.

David



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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 19:07:51 -0600
From: Steve Harris <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) missing chapter 152

Z,

"the fans of the mailing list who
had read ANGRY LEAD SKIES (which would possibly
be everyone, since we are all fans, no?)"

No, I don't intend to read Lead till I've caught up on the intervening
ones (I've read Silver, Gold, Copper, and Quicksilver).

But seeing as how the earlier ones tend to disappear from the bookstores
after a couple years and don't get reprinted (I don't know how I'm going
to find Tin these days; fortunate, I've got Brass), maybe I'd best pick
up Lead now, in any case.

Steve

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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 17:35:06 -0800
From: Pat & Ellen Hannum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Angry Lead Skies ***SPOILER ALERT***

David Ainsworth wrote:

> At 12:15 PM 3/25/2002 -0800, Matt Patterson - Editor d' Ooze wrote:
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> I have to wonder if the Dead Man isn't carefully manipulating the situation
> to pull a Glory Mooncalled of his own.  Total silence from him may
> indicate, not that he's sleeping, but that all of his attention is focused
> at distance on other affairs.
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> David

Ohhhh, isn't that a different way to look at it....

Snarky bastard that it is...

Pat


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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 19:07:40 -0300
From: Richard Chilton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Angry Lead Skies ***SPOILER ALERT***

I know these are old posts, but I didn't have the book when they were
sent.  Someone at the bookstore forgot to phone to tell me it was in, so
I just finished yesterday.

"Timothy P. Taylor" wrote:
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> VERY MCUH the fact that Pular was in this one.  Cook did a good job I think
> in rounding out several characters, and still managing to incorporate
> several old reliables (Saucerhead, Morley, Winger) without going overboard.
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> I think he's setting it up for a pretty good conclusion, the ending was
> interesting what with the dialogue between Old Man Tate, Garrett and Tinnie.
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> Okay, I'm rooting that he settles down with tinnie...I admit to a bit of a
> bias in that I myself married a red-head...no regrets!
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I think Garrett will have to rethink his options one of these days.  It
was one thing when he was one of the few human males around (the young
men off fighting the war and few survivors returning) but now that the
army is back home and de-mobbed I have a feeling that he wasn't as good
of a catch as when the boys were off at war.

Then again, now that there's money coming in (unless he gets cheated out
of his share) he's going to attract a whole new kind of girlfriend.

The latest book advanced (in a round about way) a new theory for how
Garrett was always able to get the girls - he seems to be a borderline
Psy with unconscious powers.  The mother daughter team that was
introduced seemed like a glaring pointer to how Garrett gets the girls -
his mind pulls them towards him.


On a separate topic - did we just get some insight into magic?  The beam
weapon was a delouser - is the magic of the Hill Lords linked to psychic
parasites, or are their minds just so far open that the beam fried
them?  Or was it as Garrett suspected - the alien getting a bit of
revenge?


Speaking of aliens - I was a bit surprised by the Dead Man's reaction to
them.  Those guys? They were here before, they don't share knowledge,
they don't help us in our schemes, they really don't matter much.  Then
again, part of me thinks it might just be an act - that the Dead Man and
the aliens were making deals that will be part of a side show during the
next book.  The way the Dead Man was woken up - could the aliens have a
way of giving him extra energy, strengthening his powers?

One thing I'd love to know is how a first time reader would read this
book - I could just be me but I didn't see a lot introduction and back
explaination for old characters and situations.

Richard

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