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glencook-fans-digest     Sunday, January 27 2002     Volume 01 : Number 160




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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 12:21:18 +0000
From: Troy Lefman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Speaking of supporting authors...

Stackpole's problem is he catered too much to the fanboy market and not enough to
his own work.  Sure, he's got to make a living and he started relatively young
doing something he enjoys.  But, would you rather have 34 so-so books to your
credit and only $2500 a piece in the bank or would you rather have 5 really good
books with $10000 a piece?

I do think he is doing something good to help his situation by going to the
public and marketing his work.  He's not sitting on his @$$ and complaining.
(BTW, I have all of the Rogue Squadron books and several other Star Wars books he
has written.)

[e-mail] wrote:

> In a message dated 1/24/02 4:01:53 PM Central Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> > Mike Stackpole set up a page asking for support:
> >  http://www.stormwolf.com/essays/appeal.html
> >
>
> What Stackpole isn't saying here is that tie-in series books get payed a
> small amount with no residuals for sales, as opposed to original novels.  I
> can't speak for the Battletech and Star Wars novels he writes but I know that
> Star Trek novels pay the writers from $1000 to $2500 each, with no residuals.
>  For most people a tie-in novel is 2-3 months work.  If he had ever written
> an original book that sold as well as his worst selling Star Wars novel, he
> would not be in financial difficulty.
>
> Glen Cook has never told me even approximately what he has made per novel,
> but I doubt if most of his novels sold for more than a low 4 figure advance
> with small residuals.  Unfortunately for all of us, he has never exactly been
> a best selling writer.
>
> What Glen ought to do is get Peter Jackson (Lord of the Rings) to buy the
> film rights to the Black Company and Garrett series for less than standard
> rate plus about a 2% gross residual on the films.  If the films got made he
> would never have to worry about money again....
>
> Michael W Sweet
>
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 18:40:11 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (glencook-fans) Re: glencook-fans-digest V1 #159

Coincidentally, I read the story 'Sandkings' just last week.  One of the most
exhilarating reading experiences I've had in quite some time.  Fabulous
story.  I've read most of Martin's output (after discovering him through his
Song of Fire & Ice series), including _Tuf Voyaging_.  I thought that _TV_
didn't work well as a fix-up novel, but some of the stories, in particular
'The Plague Star' were excellent reads.

S. Klobas

<<  If you want to try some of Martin's other writing, I'd suggest
 "Tuf Voyaging" (novel) and "Sandkings" (short stories).  Both are
 excellent though probably out of print >>

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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:47:54 -0600
From: "Lawrence Jenab" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: glencook-fans-digest V1 #159

I loved Sandkings--thought the Showtime adaptation was lame, though.

I'm just 100 pages into the Game of Thrones, and it's not wowing me.  Does
it get better?

>
> <<  If you want to try some of Martin's other writing, I'd suggest
>  "Tuf Voyaging" (novel) and "Sandkings" (short stories).  Both are
>  excellent though probably out of print >>
>
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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 10:00:24 +1000
From: Graham Allen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: glencook-fans-digest V1 #159

MUCH better.. give it a chance, it's all setting a stage.

Tell me what you think after finishing the second book.  I bet you'll be in
love.

They are full of gritty realism, so I can't see a Glen Cook fan not liking
them.

At 05:47  26/01/02 -0600, you wrote:

>I loved Sandkings--thought the Showtime adaptation was lame, though.
>
>I'm just 100 pages into the Game of Thrones, and it's not wowing me.  Does
>it get better?
>
> >
> > <<  If you want to try some of Martin's other writing, I'd suggest
> >  "Tuf Voyaging" (novel) and "Sandkings" (short stories).  Both are
> >  excellent though probably out of print >>
> >
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 22:49:14 -0600
From: Steve Harris <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Speaking of supporting authors...

Michael,

"What Glen ought to do is get Peter Jackson (Lord of the Rings) to buy
the
film rights to the Black Company"

Scary thought!  A fully realized "BC: The Movie" would be quite chilling.

I don't think it would really work:  LotR aside, heroic fantasy movies
just don't make significant amounts of money.  Yes, Schwartzenegger got
his start with a fairly skillful "Conan the Barbarian", but the series
went swiftly down hill, and even the first was a flash in the pan.

Damn, I'd love to see it realized:  Catcher (spooky!), the
transformation of The Lady from a dream to a reality scarier than the
dream, the Plain of Fear, the palpable fear of the Dominator hanging
over all...

But I think we'll have to be satisfied with our individual imaginations.
 And mine's better than anyone else's, so there! :)

Steve

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 02:02:45 -0800
From: malik coates <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: glencook-fans-digest V1 #159

Lawrence Jenab wrote:

>I'm just 100 pages into the Game of Thrones, and it's not wowing me.  Does
>it get better?
>
yes.



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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 06:26:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Fraser Ronald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) E-Books.

Actually, the maiden issue of "Sword's Edge", which is
the new AtFantasy Alliance e-zine, is all about
e-books. It's got sample chapters from two, a short
story from an upcoming collection and a review of "Way
of the Wolf" by E. E. Knight. Check it out at:

http://www.atfantasy.com/swords_edge

Shameless plug as I'm the editor!

Fraser Ronald
Editor, "Sword's Edge"
(http://www.atfantasy.com/swords_edge)
Admin, AtFantasy Alliance Fiction Archive
(http://www.atfantasy.com/fiction)
". . . but the power of sentences has nothing to do
with their sense or the logic of their construction."
Joseph Conrad, "Lord Jim"

- --- Dkord <[e-mail]> wrote:
> If anyone has a
> good link to some great fantasy/Sci-Fi E-books I
> would appreciate them.
>

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:58:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Igor Filippov <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Speaking of supporting authors...

"Heroic fantasy movies don't make significant amounts of money" -
how about "Mummy" and "Tomb Raider" and "Indiana Jones" and many,
many more ?
The thing is - imho - it's hard to make a _good_ fantasy movie
and not to fall into cliche. Much easier to make Titanics and harvest
oscars.

Igor

On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Steve Harris wrote:

> Michael,
>
> "What Glen ought to do is get Peter Jackson (Lord of the Rings) to buy
> the
> film rights to the Black Company"
>
> Scary thought!  A fully realized "BC: The Movie" would be quite chilling.
>
> I don't think it would really work:  LotR aside, heroic fantasy movies
> just don't make significant amounts of money.  Yes, Schwartzenegger got
> his start with a fairly skillful "Conan the Barbarian", but the series
> went swiftly down hill, and even the first was a flash in the pan.
>
> Damn, I'd love to see it realized:  Catcher (spooky!), the
> transformation of The Lady from a dream to a reality scarier than the
> dream, the Plain of Fear, the palpable fear of the Dominator hanging
> over all...
>
> But I think we'll have to be satisfied with our individual imaginations.
>  And mine's better than anyone else's, so there! :)
>
> Steve
>
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