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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:05:14 -0800
From: Bill Curran <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) New to list

Im new to the mailing list so HELLO..........

Anyway, I am hooked on the Black Company books which I am almost done
with Soldier's Live.  I havent read any other of Glen Cook's books and
was wondering what would be the next of his books I should try to get a
hold of?

I find it hard reading any other books right now if it doesnt have the
Black Company in it..

Bill


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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:05:54 -0600
From: "Horky, Roger" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) New to list

I would recommend the Garrett series. A slightly different 'feel' but
entertaining none the less.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Bill Curran [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 7:05 PM
To: GLENCOOKFANS
Subject: (glencook-fans) New to list


Im new to the mailing list so HELLO..........

Anyway, I am hooked on the Black Company books which I am almost done
with Soldier's Live.  I havent read any other of Glen Cook's books and
was wondering what would be the next of his books I should try to get a
hold of?

I find it hard reading any other books right now if it doesnt have the
Black Company in it..

Bill


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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:33:52 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Steve Chew)
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) New to list

>>Im new to the mailing list so HELLO..........
>>
>>Anyway, I am hooked on the Black Company books which I am almost done
>>with Soldier's Live.  I havent read any other of Glen Cook's books and
>>was wondering what would be the next of his books I should try to get a
>>hold of?
>>
>>I find it hard reading any other books right now if it doesnt have the
>>Black Company in it..
>>
>
>I would recommend the Garrett series. A slightly different 'feel' but
>entertaining none the less.
>

    While I like the Garrett series, I find them to be totally
different from the Black Company books.  They're much more over-the-
top in style, as you might expect from a hard boiled detective in a
strange fantasy universe.  So go ahead and give them a shot, but
don't expect anything like the BC.
    Unfortunately, almost all of the rest of Cook's repertoire
is out of print.  For something close to the BC in style, I'd recommend
the Dread Empire series which is about a different mercenary troop.
It's hard to find though.  Another favorite of mine is The Dragon
Never Sleeps which is sci-fi instead of fantasy but one of Cook's
best.  The Tower of Fear (fantasy) and A Passage At Arms (sf) are
also very good.
    You'll want to peruse used book stores to find them or try
ordering them online.

                Steve


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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 21:01:05 -0800
From: Bill Curran <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) New to list

I did plan on hitting some of the used book stores but I know it will
probably take awhile.  When looking for the BC books, I never noticed
anything else on the shelf by him.

To be honest I find it hard to get into a book.  Overall I havent read too
many books.  The only ones that I got addicted to were "Incarnations of
Immortality" and "Blue Adept" series by Pier's Anthony and the BC books by
Cook.  I know there is much more out there for me to read but its hard for me
to get into the stories.  The BC books just had me hooked all through them
and they just keep getting better...

Steve Chew wrote:

> >>Im new to the mailing list so HELLO..........
> >>
> >>Anyway, I am hooked on the Black Company books which I am almost done
> >>with Soldier's Live.  I havent read any other of Glen Cook's books and
> >>was wondering what would be the next of his books I should try to get a
> >>hold of?
> >>
> >>I find it hard reading any other books right now if it doesnt have the
> >>Black Company in it..
> >>
> >
> >I would recommend the Garrett series. A slightly different 'feel' but
> >entertaining none the less.
> >
>
>         While I like the Garrett series, I find them to be totally
> different from the Black Company books.  They're much more over-the-
> top in style, as you might expect from a hard boiled detective in a
> strange fantasy universe.  So go ahead and give them a shot, but
> don't expect anything like the BC.
>         Unfortunately, almost all of the rest of Cook's repertoire
> is out of print.  For something close to the BC in style, I'd recommend
> the Dread Empire series which is about a different mercenary troop.
> It's hard to find though.  Another favorite of mine is The Dragon
> Never Sleeps which is sci-fi instead of fantasy but one of Cook's
> best.  The Tower of Fear (fantasy) and A Passage At Arms (sf) are
> also very good.
>         You'll want to peruse used book stores to find them or try
> ordering them online.
>
>                                 Steve
>
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>  will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare.  Now, thanks
>  to the Internet, we know this is not true."
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:39:59 +0100
From: "Marcin Welnicki" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Odp: (glencook-fans) New to list

> Unfortunately, almost all of the rest of Cook's repertoire
> is out of print.  For something close to the BC in style, I'd recommend
> the Dread Empire series which is about a different mercenary troop.
> It's hard to find though.

  So it isn't that bad to live in Poland- their are just publishing the
Dread Empire:)

Mocker


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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:13:31 -0500
From: "Michele Riccio" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Was I deleted from the list?

I'm sure the list could come up with explanations - from absurd
(three pregnant woman swallowed by a whale then give birth.  The
babies are then re-birthed by the whale) to utilitarian (three un-
related kids who hang around with each other so much they are
referred to as "the triplets")

M
happy thanksgiving

> >
>     The triplets with three different mothers. (i never did figure
>     that part
> out.)
>
> > Dave Roberts
> > [e-mail]
> >
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> > Voltaire
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:47:01 -0800
From: Wendy Shaffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Opinions on Darkwar series?

    Browsing in a local bookstore, I came across volumes 2 and 3
of the Darkwar series by Glen Cook.  I'd never heard of this one
before.  Anybody here read it?  Is it any good?  Are books 2 and 3
likely to be comprehensible without book 1?

- ---wendy
Wendy. A. Shaffer
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:51:24 -0600
From: "Horky, Roger" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) Opinions on Darkwar series?

 Grab 'em while you can but wait until you complete the set to read them

- -----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Shaffer
To: [e-mail]
Sent: 11/22/00 12:47 PM
Subject: (glencook-fans) Opinions on Darkwar series?

    Browsing in a local bookstore, I came across volumes 2 and 3
of the Darkwar series by Glen Cook.  I'd never heard of this one
before.  Anybody here read it?  Is it any good?  Are books 2 and 3
likely to be comprehensible without book 1?

- ---wendy
Wendy. A. Shaffer
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:28:09 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Steve Chew)
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Opinions on Darkwar series?

>
>    Browsing in a local bookstore, I came across volumes 2 and 3
>of the Darkwar series by Glen Cook.  I'd never heard of this one
>before.  Anybody here read it?  Is it any good?  Are books 2 and 3
>likely to be comprehensible without book 1?
>

    I read it a while back.  It wasn't one of my favorite Cook
series, but I liked it all right.  I would recommend that you do read
the first book before the others though since it does a lot of setting
up of the characters and the world they live in.  It's a continuous
story, not three independent books.

                Steve


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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:09:22 -0700
From: "Amy Weathers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) New to list

- -----Original Message-----
From: Marcin Welnicki <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 2:41 AM
Subject: Odp: (glencook-fans) New to list


>
>  So it isn't that bad to live in Poland- their are just publishing the
>Dread Empire:)
>
>Mocker
>
Hmmm.   So if I move to Poland,  maybe I could finally get my hands on
_October's Baby_


As far as other good books by Cook,  I would recommend _The Swordbearer_ .
It is a stand alone book and you should still be able to find it in
circulation.  It contains most of the ?basics? for a good fantasy novel;
swords, bad guys, war and a woman!  ;)


Amy




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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:12:09 -0600
From: "S. Townsend" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) New to list

Swordbearer is still one of my favorites.  It's an early Cook, and when I
talked to him years ago at windycon in Chicago, he was actually a bit
embarrased by it, he thought that it wasn't that good.

It was reissued a few years ago and seems to be pretty plentiful yet.

Amy Weathers wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcin Welnicki <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 2:41 AM
> Subject: Odp: (glencook-fans) New to list
>
> >
> >  So it isn't that bad to live in Poland- their are just publishing the
> >Dread Empire:)
> >
> >Mocker
> >
> Hmmm.   So if I move to Poland,  maybe I could finally get my hands on
> _October's Baby_
>
> As far as other good books by Cook,  I would recommend _The Swordbearer_ .
> It is a stand alone book and you should still be able to find it in
> circulation.  It contains most of the ?basics? for a good fantasy novel;
> swords, bad guys, war and a woman!  ;)
>
> Amy
>
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:14:53 -0700
From: Sam Roberts <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Swordbearer

I haven't said anything before because Swordbearer seems to be generally
well liked by folks on this list but I can keep quiet no longer.  I hated
it.  And boy did I want to like it.  I found it a couple of years ago at a
friends house and was horribly excited at finding a previously unknown to me
Glen Cook novel.  Maybe my expectations were too high, I don't know, but I
couldn't even finish it.  It seemed to me like a wannabe epic story that had
been squeezed down to fit a couple hundred pages and therefore skipped
things like reasonable character development and logical plot progression.
I just didn't care about any of the characters or find anything beyond
standard fantasy fare in the plot.  Is anyone else out there with me on this
or should I suck it up and give it another try?

Sam

- -----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 3:12 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) New to list


Swordbearer is still one of my favorites.  It's an early Cook, and when I
talked to him years ago at windycon in Chicago, he was actually a bit
embarrased by it, he thought that it wasn't that good.

It was reissued a few years ago and seems to be pretty plentiful yet.

Amy Weathers wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcin Welnicki <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 2:41 AM
> Subject: Odp: (glencook-fans) New to list
>
> >
> >  So it isn't that bad to live in Poland- their are just publishing the
> >Dread Empire:)
> >
> >Mocker
> >
> Hmmm.   So if I move to Poland,  maybe I could finally get my hands on
> _October's Baby_
>
> As far as other good books by Cook,  I would recommend _The Swordbearer_ .
> It is a stand alone book and you should still be able to find it in
> circulation.  It contains most of the ?basics? for a good fantasy novel;
> swords, bad guys, war and a woman!  ;)
>
> Amy
>
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:52:48 -0000
From: "Joseph McGrath" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Swordbearer

Well ah yes....
Very well said but i wouldn't say that i hated it. It just seemed more like
a fledgling attempt but i respected it anyway. I mean, I haven't written any
fantasy or tried since 11th grade. I got the feeling that Cook was rushed by
the publisher to get it out in print, or there were other things going on in
his life which prevented him from taking the character developement any
further. For instance that thing in the cave.... Not enough history about
that thing. And the same thing goes for the character Ragi or Bragi (?)
in,"An ill Fate Marshaling." Well not really his character. There wasn't
enough info on the Portals they used to ferry troops in and out of a war
zone. Far and away the BC series and the Garrett series that i have read
have been the best. But! Cook is more developed now with these and more
mature? (Right Glen...? hah)
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Roberts <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 10:14 PM
Subject: (glencook-fans) Swordbearer


> I haven't said anything before because Swordbearer seems to be generally
> well liked by folks on this list but I can keep quiet no longer.  I hated
> it.  And boy did I want to like it.  I found it a couple of years ago at a
> friends house and was horribly excited at finding a previously unknown to
me
> Glen Cook novel.  Maybe my expectations were too high, I don't know, but I
> couldn't even finish it.  It seemed to me like a wannabe epic story that
had
> been squeezed down to fit a couple hundred pages and therefore skipped
> things like reasonable character development and logical plot progression.
> I just didn't care about any of the characters or find anything beyond
> standard fantasy fare in the plot.  Is anyone else out there with me on
this
> or should I suck it up and give it another try?
>
> Sam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: S. Townsend [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 3:12 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) New to list
>
>
> Swordbearer is still one of my favorites.  It's an early Cook, and when I
> talked to him years ago at windycon in Chicago, he was actually a bit
> embarrased by it, he thought that it wasn't that good.
>
> It was reissued a few years ago and seems to be pretty plentiful yet.
>
> Amy Weathers wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marcin Welnicki <[e-mail]>
> > To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> > Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 2:41 AM
> > Subject: Odp: (glencook-fans) New to list
> >
> > >
> > >  So it isn't that bad to live in Poland- their are just publishing the
> > >Dread Empire:)
> > >
> > >Mocker
> > >
> > Hmmm.   So if I move to Poland,  maybe I could finally get my hands on
> > _October's Baby_
> >
> > As far as other good books by Cook,  I would recommend _The Swordbearer_
.
> > It is a stand alone book and you should still be able to find it in
> > circulation.  It contains most of the ?basics? for a good fantasy novel;
> > swords, bad guys, war and a woman!  ;)
> >
> > Amy
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 19:03:07 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Swordbearer

In a message dated 11/22/00 4:17:25 PM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> I haven't said anything before because Swordbearer seems to be generally
>  well liked by folks on this list but I can keep quiet no longer.  I hated
>  it.


Sam, you are absolutely correct.  The Swordbearer sucks.  Glen says so
himself.

Michael W Sweet

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 21:03:52 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Swordbearer

In a message dated 11/22/2000 6:05:14 PM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

>
>
>  Sam, you are absolutely correct.  The Swordbearer sucks.  Glen says so
>  himself.

Though Glen was harsher on the sequel that didn't get published.


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