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From: "Mike Goble" <mgoble@xmission.com>
Subject: (funklist) janie's CTB thing
Date: 01 Oct 1997 21:34:04 -0600
I havent' read this, I don't have time; this mail is a month old and pasted
from a huge conglomerate of old mail that got created when I downloaded all
my back mail on the wrong computer & saved it on a floppy; I didn't know
until way too late that Janie tried to join the list. Anyways, bon apetite.
Pasted:
I've tried three times to send the auth code to your majorodomo- it spits
it
back at me as 'unrecognized.' So Here's more of Chashing if you want to
post
it to that list- But I can't get on!
Janie
have gotten into the sound lab. This way, I was stranded and had more of
a chance to meet Kansas. I could see how he'd been quite correct about
that and I was grateful. I figured I at least owed him dinner.
I wasn't surprised by his looks. He had fairly accurately described
himself over the phone. He was an ordinary looking guy in ordinary
T-shirt and jeans. There was a restaurant across the street from the
Ramda and we went there. He told about being a roadie and told me that
on one tour they had bought a lot of super glue and glued the hotel's
furniture to the ceiling. I tried to halve the conversation, then
believe half, but I felt he was selling swampland. He told me he was
working on writing a screenplay, and since I was a writer maybe I could
earn some money by helping him type it. My headache was getting worse
quickly. The restaurant sold aspirin and I escaped back to my room with
the most haste possible. He told me to call him the next morning and
he'd drive me over to the studio. Robby and Kerry were due to be there
the next afternoon.
Within a week it would have been a year since I'd come up with the idea of
giving myself a year to meet Kansas. It was three members down and three
to
go.
As the aspirin worked its magic on my aching head. I looked out of
the window over the night lights of Atlanta. I thought about Steve.
Meeting the rest of Kansas almost seemed superflous after meeting Steve,
and yet... I still had no answer as to why the music soothed me. I
wondered what Steve was doing. Had he put together a new band? What
kind of name would he give them? I let myself indulge in realizing I
wanted to see him again. I wanted to see that black fire in his eyes.
There I was in Atlanta, so close, yet so far away.
The next morning I didn't wake up until ten thirty. Check out time
for the room was eleven. I quickly dressed and called my friend's house.
He didn't answer the phone. I kept trying until eleven-thirty when a maid
appeared and asked if I was going to check out. I gave up on him and I
called
a cab and
headed back for the studio alone.
It wasn't at all difficult to talk the man who answered the door
into letting me in. He was sitting upstairs watching a football game and
I sat down with him on the big sofa. He played a pedal steel guitar, and
tried to convince me of its charms and assets as musical instrument.
Having only heard a pedal steel played in country music I was not easily
convinced. I am also not a football fan. I quickly became bored and
chose to wander around the studio. I would have killed for a cup of
coffee.
The sound stage was open and I went in. There was a big black grand
piano sitting in a corner. I walked over to it and tried the keys. It
was slightly out of tune but the cool ivory felt good under my fingers.
It was the first time I had sat before a piano in fifteen years. I
played a composition that I had written on the synthesizer.. The pianc is
a critical instrument and I made a few adjustmnts. It is easier to play
with a lot of electronic noises to fill in the gaps. I tried to remember
the few pieces of Bach I had learned in my off and on piano lessons. I
could only remember several lines from a simple prelude. I added that to
some improvisation and was enjoying playing the piano when a voice behind
me asked if I was a professional musician.
It was the engineer who had gotten me into see Dave Hope the day
before. I laughed and told him that if I sounded like a pro, I would
hate to hear the professionals he'd heard. Knowing I was being listened
to I knew my fingers would no longer find their way across the keys to
form melodies.
I followed him into the sound lab and watched as he cleaned the heads of
the
big tape machine.
I was sitting on the sofa on the lower level of the sound lab reading old
Variety magazines when the two enginers and Joe came in.
The one. who had driven me to the motel looked over at me and said "I
guessi
I'm just a gypsy whore." It was fairly decent for once to not to have the
man
calling me names. I smiled to show the comment was appreciated, and was
relievd to know he wouldn't be staying.
Rcbby was late. I was getting awfully nervous, and even old Variety
magazines
weren't much in the way of entrtainment. Besides, I was still in need of a
cup of coffee.
I got up and wandered around. A full turn around the studio showed nothing
new or intresting so I headed back oward the sound lab. I was feeling a
little tired and was walking with my head down. As I went to step up into
the
sound lab I crashed into a man coming out of the room.
I found myself in th embarrassing position of having my nose squashed
against his chest. I took a step back and looked up to see whose blue
T-shirt I had been so closely inspecting. Above my head a full red beard
rested on the neck of the shirt. Above the beard was a pair of twinkling
light blue eyes. Framing the friendly face was a mass of shoulder-length
hair, the exactly the color of my own. Robby Steinhardt. I froze. My knees
became wobbly and my heart skipped at least a month's worth of beats. I was
happily and deliciously star-struck. Maybe some of the members of Kansas
had
gotten fat and lazy in Steves book, but Robby was anything but fat. He was
big all right, but it was all muscle.
I pulled my heart back down from my throat into my chest and took a
step back. He smiled and walked by me. I went back into the sound lab,
sat behind the mixer on the sofa and tried to regain my composure, Joe
came in and talked to the engineer who was readying the tape. '' Did you
know,
Robby walked out into the audience on the last tour? Steve my not have
been there to make the girlsscream, but Robby drove'em nuts with that
maneuver. It was beautiful! He just jumped down and started walking
throught the aisles.''
They looked at each other and Joe pulled out a bag of grass. "well, you
know
Robby...let's get ready." They lit up and passed the J back and
forth. It had been entirely consumed by the time Robby returned.
The engineer turned to Robby. "Is Kerry coming in today?''
Robby shook his head, and grimaced. ''Are you kidding? It's Sunday,
remember?
Kerrys gone God coo-coo."
The engineer (Brad Arron) slammed his hand onto the mixer. "Damn. That
means
we've got to rent the studio for another fuckinig day.''
Robby nodded. "The worst part of' it all is that Kerry's lost his
sense of humor. He gets offended if you say cuss word in front of him.
He's impossible to be around.!"
Joe piped up. ''Some reporter was in here with Walsh and asked him
if he was born again. Steve looked at the dude and said "Naw, I didn't
have to be born again, I did it right the first time." We all convulsed.
The engineer rolled the tape and DOWN THE ROAD spun by once
again. Robby listened to the song and shook his head. ''What a kick ass
tune.! Man, it's a killer playing that at the end of the set. You're
tired already and that song just takes energy. Man, it's a great song.''
Robby was sent out into the sound stage to re-do a few of the
Iyrics. The suggestion was made to further clean up- the sound of the
cut should be evened out. Robby disagreed, pointing out that the
performance
was a 'live' one
and thought they shouldn't make it sound like a studio tape.
NO ONE TOGETHER was played and Robby began talking about Steves
replacement, Jon Elefante. ''He can't remember the words to that song.
It drives me crazy.! He heard it and wanted to put the digital delay over
the whole thing rather than on the refrain in the middle. We had to argue
with him that' the refrain wouldn't stand out that way. Sound like
any other short singer we know? Sometimes I even miss Steve. We can't
play CARRY ON WAYWARD SON, Nobody else can sing the little kiddie parts.!"
The engineer worked on the tape And Robby stepped out into the hall.
I followed him and introduced myself, explaining why I was there, I told
him
that the music of Kansas was very special to me. Robby looked at me
quizzically and asked "Do you like any other music?"
I laughed and replied that I was raised on classical music and that
I likeda bit of everything except country. Only in the case of twangy
nose singing do I prefer silence. He smiled then and I told him a little
about America Rocks. He discussed the idea with me a little and turned
the convrsation back to music. We talked a little about variations of
style, such as fusion jazz. Then it was time for him to go back to the lab.
I followed and took my seat back on the sofa. Another J was rolled and
this time Robby passed it to me. Robby then asked for a Coke and Joe
left, coming back with one for everybody, including me.
Robyy talked a little more about Kerry and I was beginning to think
maybe I didin't want to meet him. My friend reappeared from his
dissapearing
act and told me that word had gotten out that there was an unauthorized
visitor in the studio
and I'd have to leave. I didn't really mind.
I went back to thank Robby for talking to me. I reached out to
shake his hand. He took my hand in both of his, then kissed it.
My friend took me to his apartment where I made arrangements for a
flight back to Chicago. I would have only minutes to spare and had to
hurry to the irport.
On the drive to Hartsfeld my friend talked about Atlanta. he was amazed how
child murders had brought people of all colors
so close together. He was also sure that Atlanta would be the music
capitol of the nation in ten more years. After all this innocuous
conversation he suddenly turned to me and said "I don't want you to
in Love with me. I'm not the kind of guy that can handle being needed."
WHAT?? My opionin of rock people just hit rock bottom. The ride to the
airport could have been much shorter; I wouldn't have objected.
Happily on my own in Hartsfeld I had time to look around a little
before my flight to O-Hare Ieft. I called Jer collect just to tell him I
loved him. I bought him, and Lisa, "I Love Atlanta'' T-shirts and was
soon winging my way back to Illinois. Jer and Lisa met me At O'Hare with
a picnic dinner and flowers. I'm so glad my husband never had the
abition to try to become a professional musician.
It's s strange situation, there's no cause for alarm
All these hot licks and rhetoric
surely do you no harm
They're helplessly human, both inside and out
A joyous cccasion, there's no reason to doubt
When each word is read, would you know the difference
if nothinig, was said ?
Livgren
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From: Timothy.J.Duggan.Jr@Dartmouth.EDU (Timothy J. Duggan Jr)
Subject: (funklist) Boston
Date: 07 Oct 1997 01:23:55 EDT
Hi,
I don't know if there are any New Englanders on this list, but this looks
interesting, in Cambridge, MA:
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From: "Mike Goble" <mgoble@xmission.com>
Subject: (funklist) Kansas list seems to be down, doesn't it?
Date: 11 Oct 1997 23:37:54 -0600
The POTSW list seems to be down, doesn't it? Is anyone else getting email
withdrawal symptoms like I am? You know, an anticipation high followed by a
first-class disappointment after you find out there's "No New Messages"? I
think it may be affecting my cardiovascular system when that happens all
the time.
If everyone out there writes, maybe we can succeed in filling up the first
funklist-digest. Just in case the POTSW came back on line, I'm writing this
to that list too.
thus typeth Mike Goble
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From: tpfeifer@media-net.net (Pfeifer, Terry J)
Subject: Re: (funklist) Kansas list seems to be down, doesn't it?
Date: 12 Oct 1997 11:15:48 -0500
Mike Goble wrote:
>
> The POTSW list seems to be down, doesn't it? Is anyone else getting email
> withdrawal symptoms like I am? You know, an anticipation high followed by a
> first-class disappointment after you find out there's "No New Messages"? I
> think it may be affecting my cardiovascular system when that happens all
> the time.
>
> If everyone out there writes, maybe we can succeed in filling up the first
> funklist-digest. Just in case the POTSW came back on line, I'm writing this
> to that list too.
>
> thus typeth Mike Goble
Withdrawal? With the second symphony show last friday I can't wait to
the reaction from the list as to what the songlist may or maynot be.
Since the Ark City show set list started an interesting discussion of
the lack of new tunes, greatest hits package they performed. I hope it
gets back up soon>
Terry
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-- Bart Simpson
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From: Sri Parthasarathy <partha@cedar.buffalo.edu>
Subject: Re: (funklist) Kansas list seems to be down, doesn't it?
Date: 13 Oct 1997 10:02:55 -0400 (EDT)
>
> Mike Goble wrote:
> >
> > The POTSW list seems to be down, doesn't it? Is anyone else getting email
> > thus typeth Mike Goble
> the lack of new tunes, greatest hits package they performed. I hope it
> gets back up soon>
>
> Terry
> --
One of the only reaspns I actually subscribed to this funk list was
so that I could find out if the Kansas list was up or down (although
the funkiness seems to be reason enough).
I guess the list IS down. There is no message on the Ryan's Kansas
page and I have not heard from anyone else about this. I have been
hesitant to mail him because he is probably already swamped!
--Sri
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From: Sri Parthasarathy <partha@cedar.buffalo.edu>
Subject: Re: (funklist) Kansas list seems to be down, doesn't it?
Date: 13 Oct 1997 11:07:21 -0400 (EDT)
>
> >
> > Mike Goble wrote:
> > >
> > > The POTSW list seems to be down, doesn't it? Is anyone else getting email
> > > thus typeth Mike Goble
>
> > the lack of new tunes, greatest hits package they performed. I hope it
> > gets back up soon>
> >
> > Terry
> > --
>
> One of the only reaspns I actually subscribed to this funk list was
> so that I could find out if the Kansas list was up or down (although
> the funkiness seems to be reason enough).
>
> I guess the list IS down. There is no message on the Ryan's Kansas
> page and I have not heard from anyone else about this. I have been
> hesitant to mail him because he is probably already swamped!
>
> --Sri
>
Replying to my own mail, I see I may have misled people.
I did not sign up to this list recently.
I subscribed to this list when it started in the anticipation
of the Kansas list going down or dropping me........of course
my main motivation was curiousity....
--Sri
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From: tpfeifer@media-net.net (Pfeifer, Terry J)
Subject: (funklist) [Fwd: Re: The PotSW list]
Date: 13 Oct 1997 10:07:08 -0500
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Got this from Ryan this morning, thought I'd pass it along to my fellow
"Internuts" on the funklist. Hopefully the "PotSW" list will be back up
soon.
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It's temporarily down again, I'm trying to figure out why.
On Thu, 9 Oct 1997, Pfeifer, Terry J wrote:
> I take it by the lack of any posts the list is down? Or did I by chance
> get get booted off by some odd coincidence? If you could please check it
> out it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Terry J. Pfeifer
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From: Timothy.J.Duggan.Jr@Dartmouth.EDU (Timothy J. Duggan Jr)
Subject: Re: (funklist) Kansas list seems to be down, doesn't it?
Date: 13 Oct 1997 12:30:03 EDT
--- Sri Parthasarathy wrote:
the Kansas list
--- end of quote ---
What's the Kansas list?
Tim (DrTexas)
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From: "Mike Goble" <mgoble@xmission.com>
Subject: (funklist) What the funklist was for
Date: 13 Oct 1997 14:11:54 -0600
The reason why the funklist was created was because a member of the POTSW
who, under the alias of "FUNKY", began posting excerpts from her memoirs as
a reporter/groupie for the progressive rock group Kansas ca. 1982. Funky's
posts showed the uh.... "human" side of the members of Kansas, and the
resulting flame war so disrupted the Kansas mailing list that I created a
mailing list for the express purpose of taking the Funky controversy off
the POTSW to somewhere where the profunkies and antifunkies would be able
to flame each other without dissing Kansas. The ultimate irony was that
Funky herself was prevented from subscribing to the Funklist by one of
America Online's wonderful computer glitches. Hence, the Funklist has been
quiet for the past several months. Keep posting and maybe we might fill up
the first digest.
Anyone on the F.L. know of any Kansas songs that sound funky? I always
thought that People Of The South Wind (POTSW), Two Cents Worth, and Sparks
of the Tempest sounded kind of funky.
thus typeth Mike Goble
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From: Timothy.J.Duggan.Jr@Dartmouth.EDU (Timothy J. Duggan Jr)
Subject: Re: (funklist) What the funklist was for
Date: 13 Oct 1997 16:02:50 EDT
--- You wrote:
the progressive rock group Kansas
--- end of quote ---
Ha Ha !
Woops!
Dust in the Wind, Right?
Cool!
Funk On!
Tim
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From: bill@progrock.org (Bill Hammell)
Subject: Re: (funklist) What the funklist was for
Date: 13 Oct 1997 23:39:12 -0400
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Cc: funklist@xmission.com <funklist@xmission.com>
>Anyone on the F.L. know of any Kansas songs that sound funky? I always
>thought that People Of The South Wind (POTSW), Two Cents Worth, and Sparks
>of the Tempest sounded kind of funky.
>
>thus typeth Mike Goble
>__________________________
>http://www.xmission.com/~mgoble
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>
>
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From: "Mike Goble" <mgoble@xmission.com>
Subject: (funklist) Ok, maybe THIS will be some good filler
Date: 13 Oct 1997 22:28:07 -0600
I just thought of some more good filler for Funklist-Digest #1 (if it ever
gets created):
how about crossing classic bands with modern alternative acts?
Examples:
"The Mighty Mighty Boston"
"Kornsas"
"REM Speedwagon"
"Marillion Manson"
can anyone come up with any more stuff like this????
P.S. if anyone still has that .wav of Icarus done with animal sound effects
please send it to me. I lost it
when my hard drive died :(
Thus typeth Mike
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From: "Mike Goble" <mgoble@xmission.com>
Subject: (funklist) Wheels & the star spangled banner
Date: 14 Oct 1997 07:04:43 -0600
Ok here's some more useless trivial pursuit for you......
Has anyone noticed that part of the chorus of "Wheels" sounds a little like
the melody of "The Star Spangled Banner"?
We really need to get the Kansas list back up and running. I'm starting to
feel like I'm locked in a small room with a bunch of people who don't
really all that much want to be there.
Thus typeth Mike Goble
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From: TRWEBBS@aol.com
Subject: (funklist) Re: PotSW: Re: Everything--PRIVATE POST
Date: 23 Oct 1997 10:21:27 -0400 (EDT)
In a message dated 97-10-23 01:02:06 EDT, you write:
<< I Sincerely apologize to you-(neal- and others who aren't involved) >>
Hey, um, Wait just a minute... If one is a Southwinder, then one is
involved. & the last time I checked, Neal was still a Southwinder. He's not
going to save your butt, nor is anybody else.
You called the "entire Kansas list" a bunch of losers...remember ? ...&
that would seem to include Neal, Ryan, Steve's & Bob's galore... & all the
rest of us. (you didn't single anyone out when you flamed), so you can't
just apologize to 2 or 3 southwinders and expect to get away with it... you
offended not just a few, but the entire list.
Please do ALL your "broom-riding" on the funklist from now on.
I "reluctantly" subscribed to the funklist just to take "you" on, ... but
you're not using it. It was created mostly for your benefit, so you could do
"your thing", & the benefit to the Kansas list was that you, & anyone like
you would be gone.
Now, you're starting to make everyone who cares look bad because the only
real defense we have is the typed word, & i'm going to use it...not that
you're worth it ... but the list will take care of you sooner or later.
Sooner is the timeframe of choice for "this" Southwinder
I thought you were gone...well, i'm hoping you go soon.
... & Hey,...I don't need those asbestos undies, honey... I can take any
heat you can spew. but please, "Do it on the funklist !!!! "...you're
worthy of that.
* Sorry for posting to the list...but at least i know janie will read it.
She seems to ignore her "private" mailbox these days.
Tim Roche