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fractint-digest          Monday, May 7 2001          Volume 01 : Number 558




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Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 23:01:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD  06-05-01  (A Hazy Mandelbrot [4])

Classic FOTD -- May 06, 2001 (Rating 4)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Though it takes over one hour to render, today's fractal was
found with little effort.  In fact, it was found with perhaps
too little effort, which accounts for the inglorious rating
of 4.  The image shows a midget in a remote valley of a twisted
minibrot, lying in the chaos near the western shoreline of a
remote part of the Z^2.01+C Mandeloid.

I named the image "A Hazy Mandelbrot".  The name is fairly
descriptive of the hazy appearance of the territory surrounding
the center midget, especially when viewed from a distance.  The
texture of the haze reflects the nature of the chaos in the area
of the parent fractal where today's image is located.

As I watched the image slowly take shape, I wondered about the
infinite logarithmic spiral, of which today's scene is an
infinitesimal part.  Of what dimension is it?  My first guess
would be that it is five-dimensional, since every twist is four-
dimensional.  But I'm not at all sure that my guess is right.
In fact, the spiral might be of a fractional dimension.

The render time of over one hour almost demands a download of
the GIF image.  But before going for the download, give Paul and
Scott a chance to render and post the GIF image file.  That file
will be available on the Web at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and at:

          <http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/fotd/>

The fractal weather today was partly cloudy and pleasant.  The
temperature of 83F (28C) was judged purrfect by the cats, who
lounged and purred in the intermittent sun for a good part of
the afternoon.  BTW, the time is getting closer when the fractal
cats' pictures will be available, and perhaps my own as well.

For now and until next time, take care, and it's interesting to
be interested.


Jim Muth
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Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:06:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: caren <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What is on topic or off topic

i'd like to know (1) if there are more like this, (2) how they did it
(a series of increasingly-focused photos taken within the same minute
or two, or ?), and (3) if that's fisherman's wharf (pier 39?)
underneath all that (i'm pretty sure that's where the zoom ends, with
ghirardelli square just a bit south(west?) of the wharf...

the clouds don't move, nor do the ships, so it has me wondering...

you're right...  the feel is similar to zooming animation with
fractint, right down to some of the pixelation...  :)

- --- Tim Wegner <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Here's an animated zoom made from NASA imagery that reminds me a
> lot of  animated zooms I have made with fractint. You will need
> software
> that reads MPEG files to enjoythis (e.g. Windows Media Player). It's
> kind
> of a long URL, you might need to unwrap it.
>
> This one zooms from the whole planet to Fisherman's Wharf.
>
> www.gsfc.nasa.gov/GSFC/EARTH/imaging/SanFrancisco_zoom_in.mpeg
>
> Tim
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Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 10:53:41 +0500
From: "Tony (Anthony) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) IFS and L-system anomations...

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Thanks for the advice so far.  The L-system info is particularly
interesting.  But I'll now rephrase what I'm looking for:
A way of copying and incrementing the digits of a small sample of TEXT,  to
a set degree, a set number of times.  Forget the L-system or IFS formats;
I'm concerned only with simple text files, as it is these - suffixed .l or
.ifs - which will be interpreted by Fractint and produce the necessary
fractals.  (I will investigate the various books suggested, as I do want to
know more about L-systems in general.)  Any ideas?

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Tony-
<p>The specific degree/branch-related question you ask is dealt with in
C in the following book, whose in-print/outofprint status I don't know:
<p>Rozenberg,G & Salomaa,A (Eds): <b><u>The Book of L</u></b>, Springer-Verlag,
c1985, 492p,
<br>    ISBN 3-540-16022-1 and 0-387-16022-1.
<p>DBF
<p>DeBow Freed wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Tony-
<p>There are two sources of code still in print and available from, for
example, amazon.com, that I am aware of, that could be adapted as you wish:
<p>1) Meinhardt, H., Prusinkiewicz,P. et al: <b>The Algorithmic Beauty
of Shells</b> (2d Ed), c 1998, 248 pgs, .
<br>has an updated CD-ROM enclosed with numerous L-system & branching
process programs;
<p>2) Prusinkiewicz, et al: <b>L-Systems, Fractals and Branching Processes</b>,
<br>Springer Lecture Notes in Biomathematics #79, c 1980, 120pgs, ISBN
3-540-97092-4
<br>ends with ~30pgs of straight code in it, but is not very easy going.
<p>As <u>Prusienkiewicz</u> was apparently the popularizer of Lindenmayer
systems, look up all his now out of print earlier books and articles, and
you'll find many from the 90's with executable code;
<p>Similarly for old <u>Lindenmayer</u> himself, and more recently <u>Meinhardt
& pals</u> who has also done books with gorgeous graphics (and documented
code) such as <b>The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants</b> w/ enclosed CD-ROMS;
<p>The richest source of code for <u>branching processes in general</u>
still lies in the Springer Series <b>Lecture Notes in Biomathematics</b>.
Unfortunately, most are out of print - but should be in your Univ library.
<p>Oh, most of the efficient IFS code is patented by and available for
$ from a company associated with (I think) Barnsley at Georgia Tech, which
may still maintain its website called "IFS, Inc".
<br>
<p>Good luck.
<p>DeBow Freed
<p>"Tony (Anthony) Hanmer" wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I am seeking a way to make copies of IFS and L-system
files of, say, up to
<br>10 lines each, with small changes in 1 or 2 numbers of up to 15 digits
each.
<br>  For instance, with a starting L-system file, ask for changes
in the angle
<br>of 0.5 degrees (using d), growing larger in one place, smaller in another
to
<br>compensate, a total of 360 times (= a set of L-system types  from
0-180
<br>degrees with all other considerations the same); titles numbered as
well,
<br>e.g. adh001, adh002, etc.  This would allow some kind of overlay
of
<br>gradually varying output fractals, either into a 3-d set or as an animation
<br>of sorts.  (Is that all clear?)  I would like to be able
to do this in
<br>either DOS or in a programme with macros like MSWord97.  Any ideas...?
<br>Could the existing fractal animation programmes do this already or
be
<br>adapted to do it?
<p>Tony Hanmer
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Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 01:36:17 -0500
From: "Scott D. Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What is on topic or off topic

caren,

For more of these types of animations and other satellite pictures of our
planet, go to: http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/GSFC/EARTH/imaging/landsat.htm
They also have a description on this page on how they do the zoom-ins.

The home page for the site is at: http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/
The link for the first URL mentioned above is below the second picture
down the middle column.

It's a great site if you have a fast connection!

Scott

On Sunday 06 May 2001 00:06, caren wrote:
> i'd like to know (1) if there are more like this, (2) how they did it
> (a series of increasingly-focused photos taken within the same minute
> or two, or ?), and (3) if that's fisherman's wharf (pier 39?)
> underneath all that (i'm pretty sure that's where the zoom ends, with
> ghirardelli square just a bit south(west?) of the wharf...
>
> the clouds don't move, nor do the ships, so it has me wondering...
>
> you're right...  the feel is similar to zooming animation with
> fractint, right down to some of the pixelation...  :)
>
> --- Tim Wegner <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > Here's an animated zoom made from NASA imagery that reminds me a
> > lot of  animated zooms I have made with fractint. You will need
> > software
> > that reads MPEG files to enjoythis (e.g. Windows Media Player). It's
> > kind
> > of a long URL, you might need to unwrap it.
> >
> > This one zooms from the whole planet to Fisherman's Wharf.
> >
> > www.gsfc.nasa.gov/GSFC/EARTH/imaging/SanFrancisco_zoom_in.mpeg
> >
> > Tim
> >
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Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 12:27:33 -0500
From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Float-only bug report

Jim,

> The problem seems to be that the float-only version waits until
> too great a magnitude is reached before it stops rounding the
> center coordinates to 6 places.  The bug is very subtle and
> affects only a small magnitude range, which is why I did not
> notice it until I began working with the "Golden Terraces"
> image, which happens to lie in that narrow range.

The coordinates aren't being rounded until they are written to the PAR file.
Without your sstools.ini file I never would have found this bug.  I usually
work at 1024x768 or 800x600.  This bug only show up if you create the PAR
entry at 640x480 (and probably lower).  The interim solution is to create
your PARs with the floating-only version using a higher screen resolution.

I have a brute force fix, but I need to study the code more to understand
why this only happens with the float-only version.  Good catch, thanks.

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Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 20:48:29 -0500
From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint patch 20.1.09

Patch 9 is now on the developer's web site.  www.fractint.org

What's new:
Fixed evolver bug that occurred when some formula functions were evolved
  and others were not being evolved.

  Fixed a bug in the float-only version which truncated the image
  coordinates when saved to a PAR.

The reason for the small patch is because the change for the float-only
version has to be applied to the float-only source by hand.  I didn't want
it to get lost in a big patch.

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Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 00:10:24 -0400
From: Mike Traynor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint patch 20.1.09

I have a problem with the latest Fractint patch and with 20.1.08.  The SF4-SF-9
video modes work with 20.1.07 and earlier models but yield gobbledygook (like
several superimposed images at the top of the screen) with the 08 and 09 versions.

Anybody know what is wrong?

Mike

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Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 00:15:37 -0400
From: Mike Traynor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint patch 20.1.09

Mike Traynor wrote:

Oops.

> I have a problem with the latest Fractint patch and with 20.1.08.  The SF4-SF-9
> video modes work with 20.1.07 and earlier models but yield gobbledygook (like
> several superimposed images at the top of the screen) with the 08 and 09 versions.

Those are the SF4-SF9 modes in the fractint.cfg that is in the distribution
zip for 20.1.7 to 20.1.9 (and probably earlier).

Anybody know what is wrong?

Mike

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Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:46:08 +0200
From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) New pages and new address

Hi all

My web site was sleeping for a long time. There are now 4 new pages (p. 26,
27, 28, 29) of images made with Ultra Fractal.

Please note the new address of my site below in the sig.
Note also that the addresses of the mirrors for the fractal contests are
now:
http://fractals.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr/contest98/
http://fractals.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr/contest99/
http://fractals.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr/contest2k/

Thank you for all of you having links to my pages of to this mirrors to
update them.
And, if something is wrong (links which may not work...), let me informed.

All the best.


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Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:25:56 -0700
From: "Zorba the Hutt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) No hard feelings

>
> Why imagine?  I did Swarm027 and Swarm018 in Fractint disk/video mode at
1600x1200
> under W98 and they took about 35 and 18 minutes (PIII/600) respectively
and
> didn't cause problems doing it.  The differences are obvious.  Having the
benefit
> over you that I have actually seen the fractint images at 1600x1200, I'd
say they
> don't need anti-aliasing and since it destroys the textures that are a
feature of
> at least those two images,  anti-aliasing isn't a benefit.  You may or may
not like
> the texture Sylvie has brought out, but to rely on your imagination when
you could
> see for yourself in very little time is odd indeed.  Try them.  You might
like
> them.
>

possibly because I didn't actually have a copy of Fractint around due to a
system reinstall, possibly because I don't have a PIII/600, I have a Celeron
266 running at 400, possibly because it's my main computer, Fractint doesn't
time-share worth talking about, and I have other things I need to be doing.
Really, I don't appreciate the tone of this one at all.

> It doesn't make an image more detailed.  It smooths things out, so it
actually
> removes detail - whether that detail is real or artifice and whether it is
> wanted or not are other matters.  If you do the image in fractint you'll
see
> that either UF or the anti-aliasing has removed the texture that is an
interesting
> feature of Swarm027 and Swarm018.

I hate to sound condescending here, but I wasn't in a good mood *before* I
read this e-mail, so, whatever. Do you actually know what anti-aliasing
does? It doesn't remove detail, it doesn't smooth things out. It does more
calculations on that pixel to determine more exactly what the color is. Yes,
you could make a case for it "removing detail", but only if that precise
point was important without caring what was around it. Which generally
humans don't. It's equivalent to making a higher resolution picture and
sampling it down, so the data of nine pixels is fit into one pixel - in
fact, that's exactly what Fractint anti-aliasing is, rendering it at a
really really high resolution and using something like Photoshop to make it
smaller. UF has it built-in and has a far more intelligent algorithm it can
use, which is why I like it for antialiased stuff.

And so, okay, I went and got a copy of Fractint, and installed it, and found
the formula and all, and, yes, there is a strange static on the side. Which
I definitely don't understand, because, to me at least, it doesn't look like
it's actually part of the fractal. It looks like a rounding error. (This is
the same thing I noticed with Jim Muth's original, in fact.) Can anyone
confirm or deny this? Zooming in, I notice that it stays pure static. The UF
version doesn't have the static at all - it looks smooth. While I realize
that fractals do degenerate into chaos, this isn't chaos, this is
random-variation-around-a-center - it's quite clear that the top part of
Swarm27 is basically-green while the middle part (for example) is
basically-beige, with it shifting smoothly between them, except for a random
color+-50 or so on every single pixel. This just plain doesn't look right to
me, especially considering that UF generates the identical image minus the
static . . .

Well, anyone know what's going on here?

- -Zorba


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Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:24:02 EDT
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Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD  07-05-01  (Spiralesque [4])

Classic FOTD -- May 07, 2001 (Rating 4)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Being forced into too much yard work, (Picking up one stick is
too much.)  I found little time for fractal fun.  But in the end
the yard work was worth it.  The yard now looks better, and the
fractal, which I eventually did get to, rates a 4, which is not
too bad.

The formula behind the image is -1.5(Z^1.2)+1.5(Z^1.3)+C, a
modest expression that would be expected to do little, and
indeed does but little.  But that little that the formula does
manage to do holds at least a few interesting things.  Today's
unusual spiral is one of those things.

The spiral is unusual in that its 8 arms are unusually
fragmented, and not at all the smoothly blended things that
would be expected.  While studying and trying to color the
image, I felt the impression of something vaguely sinister, and
considered a corresponding name, but being unable to pin down
the cause of my impression, I settled on the neutral name,
"Spiralesque".

The parameter file renders in just over 9 minutes.  The GIF file
will be available for download in an hour or so at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and at:

          <http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/fotd/>

The fractal weather today, with its partly cloudy skies and
temperature of 65F (18C), was perfect for yard work.  It was
also perfect for fractal cats, but the intrepid duo was annoyed
by the activity, and spent most of the day indoors.  I eased
their frustration with a treat of tuna.

It's now the middle of the morning and time for other work.
Until next FOTD, which will appear in 12 hours or so, take care,
and don't overwork.


Jim Muth
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START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

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frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================

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Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 17:22:09 +0200
From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal art FAQ: new version, new address

Hi all,

Version 1.4 of the Fractal Art FAQ, updated 05.07.2001, is at
http://fractals.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr/f-art-faq/ (replaces the previous
address)
and thanks to Damien it is always at
www.fractalus.com/fractal-art-faq/

Thank you to update your links if you use the French address.

Best regards.

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Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:50:27 -0400
From: "James R. McKenzie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint patch 20.1.09

I got the same thing with 20.1.08.  All I got was about an inch of the image
at the top of the screen (17 inch Mag Innovison  770DX running fractint @
1024x1280) believe it or not my Vid cards and old ATI All In Wonder Pro
hard-wired @ 8 meg of RAM.  Fractint 20.1.15 runs just fine like this but
anything newer won't.  Oh well, for what ever it's worth that's my spare
change thrown in.
                             T H A N K   Y O U


                             James R. McKenzie


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To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint patch 20.1.09


> I have a problem with the latest Fractint patch and with 20.1.08.  The
SF4-SF-9
> video modes work with 20.1.07 and earlier models but yield gobbledygook
(like
> several superimposed images at the top of the screen) with the 08 and 09
versions.
>
> Anybody know what is wrong?
>
> Mike
>
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Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:50:27 -0400
From: "James R. McKenzie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint patch 20.1.09

I got the same thing with 20.1.08.  All I got was about an inch of the image
at the top of the screen (17 inch Mag Innovison  770DX running fractint @
1024x1280) believe it or not my Vid cards and old ATI All In Wonder Pro
hard-wired @ 8 meg of RAM.  Fractint 20.1.15 runs just fine like this but
anything newer won't.  Oh well, for what ever it's worth that's my spare
change thrown in.
                             T H A N K   Y O U


                             James R. McKenzie


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From: "Mike Traynor" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint patch 20.1.09


> I have a problem with the latest Fractint patch and with 20.1.08.  The
SF4-SF-9
> video modes work with 20.1.07 and earlier models but yield gobbledygook
(like
> several superimposed images at the top of the screen) with the 08 and 09
versions.
>
> Anybody know what is wrong?
>
> Mike
>
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Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:19:55 -0500
From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint patch 20.1.09

Mike,

> I have a problem with the latest Fractint patch and with 20.1.08.  The
SF4-SF-9
> video modes work with 20.1.07 and earlier models but yield gobbledygook
(like
> several superimposed images at the top of the screen) with the 08 and 09
versions.

> Anybody know what is wrong?

What video card are you using and do you know which version of the VESA vbe
it is using?

Jonathan



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Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 22:27:21 -0400
From: Mike Traynor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint patch 20.1.09

Jonathan ,

> > I have a problem with the latest Fractint patch and with 20.1.08.  The
> SF4-SF-9
> > video modes work with 20.1.07 and earlier models but yield gobbledygook
> (like
> > several superimposed images at the top of the screen) with the 08 and 09
> versions.
>
> > Anybody know what is wrong?
>
> What video card are you using

ATI RAGE128


> and do you know which version of the VESA vbe it is using?

Nope.  How do I find out?

Thanks.  And a general thanks for the fractint work.

Any suggestions for a video card that works particularly well with fractint
for a Wintel box?

Mike

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 00:12:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD  08-05-01  (A Riot of Color [6])

Classic FOTD -- May 08, 2001 (Rating 6)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Another very busy day has come and gone here at Fractal Central,
a day that produced a most colorful fractal.

Yes, today's FOTD image is one of my most colorful, though
strangely enough, the colors give little impression of
gaudiness.  The image was created by the iterated formula
2Z^(-2.2)+2Z^(-1.1)+(1/C).

After some thought, I named the image "A Riot of Color".  I
decided on the name after studying the image and finding myself
unable to ignore the unusually brilliant colors.  I rated it a
6, mainly because of the colors.

I am now using patch 9 of the float-only version of Fractint,
which as far as I can tell is free of major bugs.  However I
have seen reports of video problems with this version, which
luckily do not show up on my dedicated fractal machine shackled
as it is by a humble video card with a mere 1 meg of memory.

I use the float-only version because its smaller footprint
permits me to shell to DOS even with all the TSR's loaded, and
for some reason, it also runs marginally faster.  (DOS is an old
abandoned operating system, which nobody in their right mind
would still be using.) :-) Luckily, I'm not in my right mind. ;-)

Since today's parameter file is a rather slow one, a download of
the GIF image is strongly recommended.  That file will soon be
posted to Paul Lee's web site at the URL:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and to Scott Boyd's site at:

          <http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/fotd/>

The fractal weather today was brilliant, with deep blue
cloudless skies, a gentle east wind and a temperature of 65F
(18C).  The cats approved of these conditions by sleeping all
afternoon on their porch chairs.

And now it's almost midnight -- time to shut down the fractal
shoppe and settle into my ponder chair to fall asleep watching a
junky sci-fi film.  I'll pull a video tape off the shelf at
random . . . I just picked "Deadly Ray from Mars"!  That should
be junky enough.

Until tomorrow and another fractal, take care, and there's a 50
percent chance that the world is at least as real as a fractal.


Jim Muth
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frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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