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fractint-digest          Friday, May 4 2001          Volume 01 : Number 556




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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:05:33 -0400
From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint version 20.1.08

Jonathan,

>> Fractint version 20.1.08 is now available at the developer's web site.=

>> Features in this patch:
>> Added truecolor support to Fractint thanks to Bert Tyler.  =


I presume that there is no way to save a true-color par file yet either.

Is there any mechanism yet for manipulating the true colors?

Lee

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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 19:34:08 -0300
From: "Ricardo M. Forno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 18-04-01 (Fractured Fractal [6])

It is pronounced Reemahn.
About averages: (x*y*z) ^(1/3) averages by the logarithms.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Coppin <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 18-04-01 (Fractured Fractal [6])


> >From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
> >Reply-To: [e-mail]
> >To: [e-mail]
> >Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 18-04-01 (Fractured Fractal [6])
> >Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:07:15 +1200
> >
> >At 23:51 25/04/2001, Andrew Coppin wrote:
> >
> >>PS. Hey Morgan... What the hell _are_ "sheets in the Riemann surface"?
> >
> >One of the hassles involved with many functions is that they are many-
> >valued (and hence, strictly speaking, not functions at all).
>
> I have another even more technical question... How do you pronounce
> "Riemann"?!?!
>
> Thanks.
> Andrew.
>
> Random Though of the Day: average(x, y, z) = (x+y+z)/3. What happens if
you
> use average(x, y, z) = (x*y*z)^(1/3)?
>
>
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:05:33 -0400
From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint version 20.1.08

Jonathan,

>> Fractint version 20.1.08 is now available at the developer's web site.=

>> Features in this patch:
>> Added truecolor support to Fractint thanks to Bert Tyler.  =


I presume that there is no way to save a true-color par file yet either.

Is there any mechanism yet for manipulating the true colors?

Lee

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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 17:57:15 -0700
From: Kathy Roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD  28-04-01  (Semi-Chaos [4])

Programmer Dude wrote:
>
> Jim Muth philosophized:
>
> > ...I pondered about gravity and dark matter.  The problem is that
> > the outer parts of the galaxies are rotating too fast to be caused
......................


> Just a note: we can't detect it only because it does not emit light that
> we can see.  Dark matter *could* just be ordinary, cold matter, and we
> would never be able to see it...from earth.  If we can ever get out into
> the galaxy and universe, THEN we'd probably have no problem detecting it.
>


Aren't we IN the universe?
Kathy Roth

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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 20:47:06 -0500
From: DeBow Freed <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD  28-04-01  (Semi-Chaos [4])

Shocking, iconoclastic suggestion.
The Clintonian answer is :"it depends on who/what/where/when "we" be(is).

Kathy Roth wrote:

> Programmer Dude wrote:
> >
> > Jim Muth philosophized:
> >
> > > ...I pondered about gravity and dark matter.  The problem is that
> > > the outer parts of the galaxies are rotating too fast to be caused
> ......................
>
> > Just a note: we can't detect it only because it does not emit light that
> > we can see.  Dark matter *could* just be ordinary, cold matter, and we
> > would never be able to see it...from earth.  If we can ever get out into
> > the galaxy and universe, THEN we'd probably have no problem detecting it.
> >
>
> Aren't we IN the universe?
> Kathy Roth
>
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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:47:21 -0400
From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint version 20.1.08

More duplicate messages from previous days are coming across again!

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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:55:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD  02-05-01  (Heads Up Mister Midget [7])

Classic FOTD -- May 02, 2001 (Rating 7)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

I rated today's image a 7 because of how well the colors turned
out.  Although it has only 256 colors, the bands are almost
invisible, resulting in a GIF image as close to the appearance
of true-color as one is likely to see.  I named the picture
"Heads Up Mister Midget" when I noticed that the sqrt(3) midget
looks almost like a quadratic midget with its nose in the air.

For today's image I once again chose the new MandelbrotBC1
formula and calculated the fractal produced by the square root
of 3.  But this time I set the function to <ceil>, which unlike
the <floor> and <round> functions, draws images different from
those drawn by the <trunc> function.

The parent of today's image is a Mandeloid shaped almost exactly
like the midget in yesterday's "Decorative" FOTD.  Today's
midget, which is shaped exactly like its parent, lies rather
deep in a seahorse tail in the Seahorse Valley area of its
parent.

The branch-cut discontinuities are quite pronounced in this
image, making me wish that some way of eliminating them existed.
But of course, the breaks are an unavoidable part of fractals
with fractional exponents.

After several of very fast parameter files, today's is a slow
one, taking over 19 minutes to render on a 200mhz Pentium.  For
those who cannot spare the computer time, the GIF file of the
rendered image will be available in an hour or so on the Web at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and at:

          <http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/fotd/>

The fractal weather today was absolutely perfect.  The warm sun,
cloudless sky, and temperature of 83F (28C) lured the cats into
the yard for a full day of enjoyment.  They saw no fox, though a
raccoon barely escaped detection.

And now I once again see that it's time to shut down the olde
fractal shoppe and call this day ended but for the wind-down.
I'll return in 24 hours however.  Until then, take care, and I
hear that an apple used to be known as a napple.


Jim Muth
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START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

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  zz4zz6zz8zzAzzCzzEzzFzzHzzJzzLzzNzzOzzQzzSzzUzzWzz\
  XyzWxzWQzGRzHTzIUzJVzKWzL
  }

frm:MandelbrotBC1   { ; by several Fractint users
  e=p1, a=imag(p2)+100
  p=real(p2)+PI
  q=2*PI*fn1(p/(2*PI))
  r=real(p2)-q
  Z=C=Pixel:
    Z=log(Z)
    IF(imag(Z)>r)
      Z=Z+flip(2*PI)
    ENDIF
    Z=exp(e*(Z+flip(q)))+C
  |Z|<a
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:36:48 -1000
From: "David Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Linux Fractint

Thanks, I look forward to it! 8-)

David
[e-mail]

On  1 May 01 at 7:30, Scott D. Boyd wrote:

> and I offer a precompiled binary package of Xfractint
> 20.1.04 at my Website:
> http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/xfractint/xfractint.htm
> l


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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 09:26:33 -0500
From: Programmer Dude <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD  28-04-01  (Semi-Chaos [4])

Kathy Roth wrote:

> Programmer Dude wrote:
>> Jim Muth philosophized:
>>
>>> ...I pondered about gravity and dark matter.
>>
>> Dark matter *could* just be ordinary, cold matter, and we
>> would never be able to see it...from earth.  If we can ever
>> get out into the galaxy and universe, THEN we'd probably
>> have no problem detecting it.
>
> Aren't we IN the universe?

[grin] Touche!

(But not OUT inTO [deep space]...)

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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 09:29:02 -0500
From: Programmer Dude <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.1.08

Lee Skinner wrote:

> More duplicate messages from previous days are coming across again!

Say what?


Lee Skinner wrote:

> More duplicate messages from previous days are coming across again!

Say what?

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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:44:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. Covey" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD  28-04-01  (Semi-Chaos [4])

- --- Programmer Dude <[e-mail]> wrote:

> This is already known, established fact.  For
> example, Newton's laws
> cannot quite account for the orbit of Mercury.  You
> need to use Albert's
> GR (General Relativity) laws to precisely figure the
> orbit.  This is
> because of the gravitational force from the nearby
> sun!
>
> So we *know* Newton is a 'special case' version of
> the full laws of
> motion.
>

Actually, the perihelion advance formula for the orbit
of Mercury can be derived from classical,
flat-space-time principles in a manner that is far
simpler than Einstein's own derivation. This discovery
completes an alternative interpretation for all GR's
major effects.

So the question is, "What the heck use is GR anyway?"

Jim

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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 19:22:22 +0100
From: "Chris Curnow" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Thanks for the input

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Enough said. =20

Thanks for all the responses about the 'ownership' issue.  I'm still not =

convinced but that's OK.  I'm going back to writing a really stunning =
.map=20
file generator; should get it done just in time for Version 21 when we=20
won't need one any more!

Cheers,
Chris

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Enough said.  =
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about the=20
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OK.  I'm going=20
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done just=20
in time for Version 21 when we </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>won't need one any =
more!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 12:26:16 +1200
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD  28-04-01  (Semi-Chaos [4])

At 02:44 03/05/2001, J. Covey wrote:

>So the question is, "What the heck use is GR anyway?"

Who knows? Making accurate use of GPS timing signals, perhaps?

Morgan L. Owens
"It's like reality, but over there!"


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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:51:54 -0500
From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) evolver bug?

Guy,

> in an .frm working with 4 functions (fn1-fn4) I need to play with fn1-fn3
> but not with fn4. Fn4 is set to 'sinh' and has to stay so. Starting the
> Evolver with the 'fn4=no' option (but set to 'sinh' in the Z-screen) all
> the pictures are generated with 'fn4=sin' except the first one..

I found the problem.  We're trying to put a two byte value into a one byte
space.  As long as all the functions are getting evolved, the error doesn't
show up.  This is because the zero entered into the second byte gets
overwritten by the value for the next function.

I'll need to dig into the code some more to see if this affects the history
routine and saved images.  The fix will be in my next patch.

Jonathan



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Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 19:25:00 -0700
From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD  28-04-01  (Semi-Chaos [4])

At 07:44 AM 5/2/01 -0700, Jim Covey wrote:
>...
>Actually, the perihelion advance formula for the orbit
>of Mercury can be derived from classical,
>flat-space-time principles in a manner that is far
>simpler than Einstein's own derivation. This discovery
>completes an alternative interpretation for all GR's
>major effects.

I would like to hear more about this!  (Maybe off-list.)

>So the question is, "What the heck use is GR anyway?"

It would, among a great many other things, tell us how
to generate the only physical force we currently can't
(gravitation).  Unfortunately the fact that physicists have
built huge particle accelerators and don't have the answers
suggests that the energies, and consequently the scale
of hardware required, may prove too large to be of any
practical use.  We can only hope that God (or dumb luck,
depending on your beliefs) permits a shortcut somehow.
Otherwise we can forget our Sci-Fi dreams of gravitational
propulsion, force fields, and artificial gravity :-(

... and "flying discs" ;-)


Bud


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Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 20:38:40 -0700
From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD  28-04-01  (Semi-Chaos [4])

At 07:25 PM 4/4/01 -0700, I wrote:
>At 07:44 AM 5/2/01 -0700, Jim Covey wrote:
>>...
>>So the question is, "What the heck use is GR anyway?"
>
>It would, among a great many other things, tell us how
>to generate the only physical force we currently can't
>(gravitation).
>...

Man, did I go off course.  Thought you were talking GUT...


Sorry...


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Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 00:26:40 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD  03-05-01  (Seahorse Minibrot [5])

Classic FOTD -- May 03, 2001 (Rating 5)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

All too often we forget the most basic of all fractals, the
classic Mandelbrot set.  We cast it aside with an attitude that
everything of interest in the set has already been worked to
death.  Even I, a conservative fractal purist, tend to overlook
the faithful old M-set, with its infinite nooks and crannies.

Well, today, for at least one day, I have corrected my oversight
by exploring the best-known area of the M-set -- Seahorse
Valley.  True, I did venture rather deep into the valley to find
today's midget, but not so deep as to need arbitrary precision
math.

The midget at the center is shaped unusually perfect, unlike
many midgets in Seahorse Valley, which, along with the midgets
in East Valley, are some of the most distorted in the entire
M-set.  The midget is located on the filament of a bud, where
the filament merges with one of the triple bottomless pits that
characterize the deep Mandelbrot valleys.

I named the image "Seahorse Minibrot" in recognition of the fact
that the scene lies in Seahorse Valley.  I rated it a perfectly
average 5, admitting that this area has already been thoroughly
explored.

Lying so deep in Seahorse Valley, the image has an unusually
high maxiter, which results in a render time from the parameter
file of over 28 minutes.  A better way to view the image is to
give Paul and Scott a chance to render and post the GIF file to
their web sites at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and at:

          <http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/fotd/>

and download the image from there.

The fractal weather today was like mid-summer, with clear skies,
hot sun, and a temperature of 86F (30C).  The fractal cats spent
over an hour outdoors, but when they returned, they complained
that it was too hot.

That's it for now.  The philosophy is still building, and may
soon burst forth in its full glory.  But philosophy or not, I'll
return tomorrow with another fractal and more fractal talk.
Until then, take care, and be of stout heart but slim body.


Jim Muth
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START PARAMETER FILE=======================================

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  reset=2001 type=mandel passes=1
  center-mag=-0.74997725991656570/+0.00836815652421319\
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Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 10:15:46 -0500
From: Programmer Dude <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD  22-04-01

Jim Muth wrote:

>>> If I can find a trashy enough old sci-fi movie to watch, the day will
>>> be complete.
>>
>> Ever seen ZARDOZ ??
>
> Yes!  wiZARDofOZ is one of my favorites.

Oh, no!!  You just gave away the secret!  ;-)

> I play it at least once a month.  It's plenty trashy.

And yet.... it's actually pretty good (I think).  I think it's a brilliant
example of British low-tech/hi-tech SF.  By that I mean the use of simple,
low tech things to suggest a technology so high that it doesn't resemble
technology anymore (Dr Who does this too, but with more kitsch <sp?>).

And it has so many interesting ideas in it: punishing immortals by aging
them, the "mainframe-in-a-diamond" and many more.  It's in my top twenty
SF films ever (along with SLAUGHTERHOUSE FIVE, SILENT RUNNING, 2001, DARK
CITY (outstanding recent SF film), FIFTH ELEMENT...).

> I also have spotted many fractal-like figures in the background,...

Yeah?  Share with us??  Please???

> BTW, have you ever seen the 1970 Soviet production of SOLARIS?

Wow.  Not in 30 years, at least!  Hmmmm, wonder where I could find one.

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Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 10:21:48 -0500
From: Programmer Dude <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD  28-04-01  (Semi-Chaos [4])

"J. Covey" wrote:

> Actually, the perihelion advance formula for the orbit
> of Mercury can be derived from classical,
> flat-space-time principles in a manner that is far
> simpler than Einstein's own derivation. This discovery
> completes an alternative interpretation for all GR's
> major effects.

To quote Mr. Spock, "Fascinating!"  Can you provide a link or three?
I'd like to pursue this.  For one thing, I'd be interested in seeing
how they account for the bending of light by gravity.

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Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 15:35:14 +0000
From: "Thierry B." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Chaos and TCP/IP

http://razor.bindview.com/publish/papers/tcpseq.html

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Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:36:57 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Chaos and TCP/IP

In a message dated 01-05-03 11:35:46 EDT, you write:

<< http://razor.bindview.com/publish/papers/tcpseq.html >>
Fascinating paper, thanks for posting the URL.

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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 21:41:21 -0300
From: "Ricardo M. Forno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) C-FOTD  28-04-01  (Semi-Chaos [4])

Aren't we IN a galaxy?
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Kathy Roth <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 28-04-01 (Semi-Chaos [4])


>
>
> Programmer Dude wrote:
> >
> > Jim Muth philosophized:
> >
> > > ...I pondered about gravity and dark matter.  The problem is that
> > > the outer parts of the galaxies are rotating too fast to be caused
> ......................
>
>
> > Just a note: we can't detect it only because it does not emit light that
> > we can see.  Dark matter *could* just be ordinary, cold matter, and we
> > would never be able to see it...from earth.  If we can ever get out into
> > the galaxy and universe, THEN we'd probably have no problem detecting
it.
> >
>
>
> Aren't we IN the universe?
> Kathy Roth
>
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Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 10:36:12 +0200
From: Guy Marson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) evolver bug?

At 20:51 02/05/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Guy,
>
>> in an .frm working with 4 functions (fn1-fn4) I need to play with fn1-fn3
>> but not with fn4. Fn4 is set to 'sinh' and has to stay so. Starting the
>> Evolver with the 'fn4=no' option (but set to 'sinh' in the Z-screen) all
>> the pictures are generated with 'fn4=sin' except the first one..
>
>I found the problem.  We're trying to put a two byte value into a one byte
>space.  As long as all the functions are getting evolved, the error doesn't
>show up.

that's right!

>This is because the zero entered into the second byte gets
>overwritten by the value for the next function.
>
>I'll need to dig into the code some more to see if this affects the history
>routine and saved images.  The fix will be in my next patch.
>

oh thanks a lot! So I'll wait with my tests until it's fixed!

>Jonathan
>
>

cheers,


Guy



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Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 07:55:20 +0200
From: Guy Marson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 18-04-01 (Fractured Fractal [6])

Hi Andrew,

At 14:08 01/05/01 -0000, you wrote:
>I have another even more technical question... How do you pronounce
>"Riemann"?!?!

Riemann is simply Riemann or in an english translation I say: REEMAN(n)  =
with double 'n'


>
>Thanks.
>Andrew.

But are you able to translate the following into a working .frm?

>
>Random Though of the Day: average(x, y, z) = (x+y+z)/3. What happens if you
>use average(x, y, z) = (x*y*z)^(1/3)?
>

cheers,

Guy



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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Thomas Bennett <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) C-FOTD  28-04-01  (Semi-Chaos [4])

> > Programmer Dude wrote:
> > >
> > > Jim Muth philosophized:
> > >
> > > > ...I pondered about gravity and dark matter.
> The problem is that
> > > > the outer parts of the galaxies are rotating
> too fast to be caused
> > ......................
> >
> >
> > > Just a note: we can't detect it only because it
> does not emit light that
> > > we can see.  Dark matter *could* just be
> ordinary, cold matter, and we
> > > would never be able to see it...from earth.  If
> we can ever get out into
> > > the galaxy and universe, THEN we'd probably have
> no problem detecting
> it.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Aren't we IN the universe?
> > Kathy Roth
> >
I, unfortunately, find these esoteric discussions
somewhat off the point and containing little, if
anything, relevant to the construction of fractals.

    Tom

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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:27:44 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD  04-05-01  (Fractal Number Nine [3])

Classic FOTD -- May 04, 2001 (Rating 3)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

An unexpected rush job came in today, preventing me from
devoting time to a proper fractal search.  And since the job is
not yet finished, I will have little time to devote to today's
fractal notes.

The image was created by the formula Z+Z^5+C.  With no time to
think of a better name, I gave the image the descriptive name
"Fractal Number Nine".  Being both honest and conservative, I
could rate the image no higher than a 3, which equals below
average.

With a render time of a little over 5 minutes, the parameter
file is reasonably fast.  An even faster way of seeing the
underwhelming image is to download the GIF file from:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

or from:

          <http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/fotd/>

after giving Paul and Scott a chance to get the image posted.

The fractal weather, (I guess weather is fractal), was continued
summer-like today, with hot sun, polluted air, and a temperature
of 89F (31.5C).  All the heat and pollution kept the fractal
cats hidden in the shade of the holly trees.

It's now time to get busy on other things.  Until the next FOTD
in 12 hours or so, take care, and become one with your fractals.


Jim Muth
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