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fractint-digest         Monday, March 26 2001         Volume 01 : Number 546




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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:33:42 -0500
From: "Multiple Bogeys" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist

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> How would he have known that iterating that formula would produce somet=
hing
> worth doing. If he did it at all, I think that he must have had help -
> perhaps he had pointers from superior beings.

I believe it is not beyond the realm of possibility that he did it himsel=
f. People have fought and died in wars for religious beliefs. Besides, ma=
th types are usually hackers (and most 13th century monks were certainly =
hackers, 700 years before the invention of the computer but hackers nonet=
heless) and when hackers get their intellectual teeth in an interesting p=
roblem they don't let go and will move heaven and earth to solve it.

However, it does seem likely he had some assistance. However, Occam's raz=
or indicates that we should not postulate gods (or extraterrestrials) as =
the source of the assistance; as our modern computer technology indicates=
 man alone is sufficient. Two possibilities then occur: he had assistance=
 in hand calculations, or he had (possibly indirect) access to advanced t=
echnology. The former is very plausible, and the latter is not out of the=
 question. Obviously, no advanced technological civilization on a par wit=
h our own existed on earth within the past 11,600 years, or it would have=
 left clear archaeological evidence. Reading between the lines of the Ved=
ic literature of ancient India reveals that it was clearly cribbed from a=
n original source who was an eyewitness to the use of flying machines, in=
cluding heavier-than-air ones. Since the literature predates the Wright b=
rothers by thousands of years, 1930s era technology existed somewhere on =
earth, probably near India, in the distant past. Moreover, if it had been=
 more recent than 11,600 years ago, their technological detritus would be=
 littered over the land we are familiar with. Earlier than that, however,=
 our familiar civilized lands were buried under sheets of ice and large a=
reas of currently submerged land were above water. It is there that such =
a civilization's most advanced relics would be found. Such a civilization=
 (and its destruction!) would have left a resounding psychological shockw=
ave bouncing for millennia, and it probably has in the religions and lege=
nds of gods and great heros. It would have also left some knowledge scatt=
ered in copied and mutated books -- a possible source for a Mandelbrot im=
age in the 13th century, or for the Vedic literature or parts thereof.

Geological data suggests two sizable landmasses were exposed during the l=
ast ice age that are now submerged: the Celtic Shelf, a region of contine=
ntal shelf around the British Isles, and the shallow bottom of the South =
China Sea. The former would during the ice age have been an island the si=
ze of Greenland between Iceland and Europe, with present-day Britain and =
Ireland as mountaintops. There are megalithic relics here that present my=
steries if we try to imagine hunter-gatherers constructing them; of these=
 Stonehenge is the most notorious. Megaliths are notoriously hard to date=
 accurately because the radioisotopes present in most stones have half-li=
ves measured in millions of years. They can thus be dated to within hundr=
eds of kiloyears but no more precisely. The world's unusual megaliths are=
 all "recent" -- that is, from the past few hundred thousand years. One s=
tone circle in the British Isles, however, has been positively dated by o=
ther means peculiar to its circumstance. This circle (not Stonehenge) is =
11,600 years old or older, and the proof is that it is partially submerge=
d and was last exposed that long ago during the ice age. At that time, th=
e Celtic Shelf was exposed; the Gulf Stream would have given it a compara=
tively mild climate despite the ice age and latitude. It would have been =
comparable in climate to present-day Alaska, which has a technological ci=
vilized presence, and would have had comparable resources (Alaska has oil=
, the Celtic Shelf would have had the same coal seams that, so abundant i=
n Britain, birthed the Industrial Revolution there, and in vast quantitie=
s). The floor of the South China Sea is an even better candidate, the siz=
e of Europe and Asia Minor combined; 11,600 years ago it was a fertile eq=
uatorial plain with a climate comparable to present-day Florida and the M=
idwest, large meandering rivers, very suitable for agriculture; it would =
have been bordered to the south by a volcanic mountain range that is now =
the island chain of Indonesia. Whereas an Ice Age civilization had good o=
dds of developing industry in the Celtic area, its development of agricul=
ture, urbanization, and reading and writing would likely have occurred in=
 what is now Indonesia.

Certain legends and myths hint at advanced civilizations in the latter an=
d possibly both locations in the distant past. Three particular instances=
:
1. Plato's Atlantis. Plato dated the downfall of Atlantis at exactly 11,6=
00 years before present (adjusted for the elapsed
    time since Plato's writing). The ending of an ice age is probably a r=
ather violent affair, accompanied by devastating
    storms, changes in rainfall that could cause massive crop failures, e=
tc. -- add to that the massive flooding as the sea
    level rose and it becomes clear that much as it might sound like a go=
od thing it could well have toppled a civilization.
    (Recent scientific evidence from the GISP2 ice core indicate that the=
 onset of interglacials is much more abrupt than
    previously thought -- on the order of years or decades to go from ful=
l glacial to full interglacial conditions. No way can
    the sea and air reorganize themselves that radically without doing so=
 violently with massive hurricane-like storms,
    floods...) Moreover, the landmass in the vicinity of present-day Indo=
nesia is the size Plato described. Its location seems
    off by about 20,000km, but apparently the name "Atlantic Ocean" origi=
nally applied to the ocean then believed to circle
    the Old World -- before they knew about North and South America the n=
ame Pacific Ocean was not even invented!
    And Atlantis was reputedly destroyed by floods, earthquakes, and volc=
ano shortly after fighting a war with
    "unimaginable" weapons. The site in question is highly volcanic owing=
 to plate subduction nearby, and would have flooded
    rapidly with the thawing of the ice age.
2. The Norse myth of Ragnarok. Reading between the lines, it sounds like =
a (distorted) lesson about something we found
    very frightening during the 60s, 70s, and 80s -- Mutually Assured Des=
truction. Doesn't it seem at least somewhat
    plausible that some ancient civilization blew themselves up? In Ragna=
rok, the gods go to war and destroy each other and
    the world with them. Nuclear war, anyone? I wonder how big the Mighty=
 Hammer 'Mjollnir' was -- 60 megatons or 100?
    In the climate record, there's a mysterious 700-1300 year cold period=
 after the end of the ice age called the Younger
    Dryas (the name refers to oak pollen used to date the period and gues=
s its climate -- presumably the Older Dryas was
    the ice age itself). It is poorly-explained, but wooly mammoths were =
frozen in fierce blizzars while munching on summer
    grass so its onset was very sudden. Now what was that frightening pos=
sibility that people raised regarding long term
    effects from nuclear war? I seem to recall it was called "nuclear win=
ter"...
3. The Biblical stories of Exodus and Revelation. Ever seen 'Dante's Peak=
'? The fish boiled in the lake? The acid waters? The
    lava flows? The mud flows and floods? The town pulverised by a volcan=
ic explosion?
    It's been accepted in archaeological circles that the "shout"
    that felled the walls of Jericho was real, and was an earthquake in t=
hat notoriously earthquake-prone place called the
    Middle East. Exodus and Revelation sure sound like volcanic events, p=
robably on the ultra-plinian scale, VEI 7 or 8.
    (That level, BTW, makes Krakatoa look like a wet firecracker by compa=
rison. The scale is logarithmic, just like the Richter
    scale for earthquakes.) Indeed, fish boiled in volcanically-heated wa=
ters are a decent candidate for the "loaves and
    fishes" that fed the Israelites, who sure sound like refugees from a =
colossal natural disaster. Present-day Indonesia is a
    good candidate site for such a prehistoric disaster. Revelation has s=
everal passages of special significance, for its
    "Beast" is clearly none other than a volcanic island or mountain chai=
n -- one including seven major mountains or islands,
    ten individual volcanic vents or peaks, and a hellish amount of fire =
and brimstone to hurl onto the surrounding landscape.
    The passage about the Beast seeming mortally wounded with one head cu=
t off, only for it to regenerate, sounds a lot
    like what happens every time Krakatoa (from that very region) blows i=
ts top -- the whole mountain is destroyed, but the
    volcanic vent soon constructs a new one. One of the Beast's heads reg=
ularly falls off and regenerates to this very day!
    The "number of the beast" probably refers to the visual appearance of=
 the area -- three of the peaks have a "tail" off
    the mountain peak, making it look in relief topography like three six=
es! (Historical note: in addition to the well-known
    Krakatoa explosion of the late 1880s, it did its thing in the 15th ce=
ntury too, with markedly similar results -- a large
    portion of the island was utterly destroyed, and it regenerated by vo=
lcanic means, producing a new island amid the
    exposed fragments of the old -- which was itself destroyed in the 188=
0s eruption, only to be currently growing back
    again.)
    Incidentally, a VEI 7+ volcanic eruption would probably have caused a=
 700-year winter as effectively as a nuclear war.

Thus, there is much evidence to support a hypothesis that an advanced civ=
ilization existed near present-day Indonesia 11,600 years ago, probably s=
pawning offshoots elsewhere, fought an internecine conflict with nuclear =
weapons in its final
years, and was thus weakened into a state where an exploding volcano and =
nuke-and-volcano-assisted climate fluctuations
delivered the coup-de-grace.<br clear=3Dall><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-=
mail from MSN Hotmail at <a href=3D"http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.ho=
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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>> How would=
 he have known that iterating that formula would produce something<BR>>=
; worth doing. If he did it at all, I think that he must have had help -<=
BR>> perhaps he had pointers from superior beings.<BR></DIV> <DIV>I be=
lieve it is not beyond the realm of possibility that he did it himself. P=
eople have fought and died in wars for religious beliefs. Besides, math t=
ypes are usually hackers (and most 13th century monks were certainly hack=
ers, 700 years before the invention of the computer but hackers nonethele=
ss) and when hackers get their intellectual teeth in an interesting probl=
em they don't let go and will move heaven and earth to solve it.</DIV> <D=
IV> </DIV> <DIV>However, it does seem likely he had some assistance.=
 However, Occam's razor indicates that we should not postulate gods (or e=
xtraterrestrials) as the source of the assistance; as our modern computer=
 technology indicates man alone is sufficient. Two possibilities then occ=
ur: he had assistance in hand calculations, or he had (possibly indirect)=
 access to advanced technology. The former is very plausible, and the lat=
ter is not out of the question. Obviously, no advanced technological civi=
lization on a par with our own existed on earth within the past 11,600 ye=
ars, or it would have left clear archaeological evidence. Reading between=
 the lines of the Vedic literature of ancient India reveals that it was c=
learly cribbed from an original source who was an eyewitness to the use o=
f flying machines, including heavier-than-air ones. Since the literature =
predates the Wright brothers by thousands of years, 1930s era technology =
existed somewhere on earth, probably near India, in the distant past. Mor=
eover, if it had been more recent than 11,600 years ago, their technologi=
cal detritus would be littered over the land we are familiar with. Earlie=
r than that, however, our familiar civilized lands were buried under shee=
ts of ice and large areas of currently submerged land were above water. I=
t is there that such a civilization's most advanced relics would be found=
. Such a civilization (and its destruction!) would have left a resounding=
 psychological shockwave bouncing for millennia, and it probably has in t=
he religions and legends of gods and great heros. It would have also left=
 some knowledge scattered in copied and mutated books -- a possible sourc=
e for a Mandelbrot image in the 13th century, or for the Vedic literature=
 or parts thereof.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Geological data suggests =
two sizable landmasses were exposed during the last ice age that are now =
submerged: the Celtic Shelf, a region of continental shelf around the Bri=
tish Isles, and the shallow bottom of the South China Sea. The former wou=
ld during the ice age have been an island the size of Greenland between I=
celand and Europe, with present-day Britain and Ireland as mountaintops. =
There are megalithic relics here that present mysteries if we try to imag=
ine hunter-gatherers constructing them; of these Stonehenge is the most n=
otorious. Megaliths are notoriously hard to date accurately because the r=
adioisotopes present in most stones have half-lives measured in millions =
of years. They can thus be dated to within hundreds of kiloyears but no m=
ore precisely. The world's unusual megaliths are all "recent" -- that is,=
 from the past few hundred thousand years. One stone circle in the Britis=
h Isles, however, has been positively dated by other means peculiar to it=
s circumstance. This circle (not Stonehenge) is 11,600 years old or older=
, and the proof is that it is partially submerged and was last exposed th=
at long ago during the ice age. At that time, the Celtic Shelf was expose=
d; the Gulf Stream would have given it a comparatively mild climate despi=
te the ice age and latitude. It would have been comparable in climate to =
present-day Alaska, which has a technological civilized presence, and wou=
ld have had comparable resources (Alaska has oil, the Celtic Shelf would =
have had the same coal seams that, so abundant in Britain, birthed t=
he Industrial Revolution there, and in vast quantities). The fl=
oor of the South China Sea is an even better candidate, the size of Europ=
e and Asia Minor combined; 11,600 years ago it was a fertile equatorial p=
lain with a climate comparable to present-day Florida and the Midwest, la=
rge meandering rivers, very suitable for agriculture; it would have been&=
nbsp;bordered to the south by a volcanic mountain range that is now =
the island chain of Indonesia. Whereas an Ice Age civilization had g=
ood odds of developing industry in the Celtic area, its development of ag=
riculture, urbanization, and reading and writing would likely have occurr=
ed in what is now Indonesia.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Certain legends=
 and myths hint at advanced civilizations in the latter and possibly=
 both locations in the distant past. Three particular instances:</DIV> <D=
IV>1. Plato's Atlantis. Plato dated the downfall of Atlantis at exactly 1=
1,600 years before present (adjusted for the elapsed</DIV> <DIV> &nb=
sp;  time since Plato's writing). The ending of an ice age is probab=
ly a rather violent affair, accompanied by devastating</DIV> <DIV> &=
nbsp;  storms, changes in rainfall that could cause massive crop fai=
lures, etc. -- add to that the massive flooding as the sea</DIV> <DIV>&nb=
sp;   level rose and it becomes clear that much as it might sou=
nd like a good thing it could well have toppled a civilization.</DIV> <DI=
V>    (Recent scientific evidence from the GISP2 ice core =
indicate that the onset of interglacials is much more abrupt than</DIV> <=
DIV>    previously thought -- on the order of years or dec=
ades to go from full glacial to full interglacial conditions. No way can<=
/DIV> <DIV>    the sea and air reorganize themselves that =
radically without doing so violently with massive hurricane-like storms,<=
/DIV> <DIV>    floods...) Moreover, the landmass in the vi=
cinity of present-day Indonesia is the size Plato described. Its location=
 seems</DIV> <DIV>    off by about 20,000km, but apparentl=
y the name "Atlantic Ocean" originally applied to the ocean then believed=
 to circle</DIV> <DIV>    the Old World -- before they kne=
w about North and South America the name Pacific Ocean was not even inven=
ted!</DIV> <DIV>    And Atlantis was reputedly destroyed b=
y floods, earthquakes, and volcano shortly after fighting a war with</DIV=
> <DIV>    "unimaginable" weapons. The site in question is=
 highly volcanic owing to plate subduction nearby, and would have flooded=
</DIV> <DIV>    rapidly with the thawing of the ice age.</=
DIV> <DIV>2. The Norse myth of Ragnarok. Reading between the lines, it so=
unds like a (distorted) lesson about something we found</DIV> <DIV> =
   very frightening during the 60s, 70s, and 80s -- Mutually As=
sured Destruction. Doesn't it seem at least somewhat</DIV> <DIV> &nb=
sp;  plausible that some ancient civilization blew themselves up? In=
 Ragnarok, the gods go to war and destroy each other and</DIV> <DIV> =
;   the world with them. Nuclear war, anyone? I wonder how big =
the Mighty Hammer 'Mjollnir' was -- 60 megatons or 100?</DIV> <DIV> =
   In the climate record, there's a mysterious 700-1300 year co=
ld period after the end of the ice age called the Younger</DIV> <DIV>&nbs=
p;   Dryas (the name refers to oak pollen used to date the peri=
od and guess its climate -- presumably the Older Dryas was</DIV> <DIV>&nb=
sp;   the ice age itself). It is poorly-explained, but wooly ma=
mmoths were frozen in fierce blizzars while munching on summer</DIV> <DIV=
>    grass so its onset was very sudden. Now what was that=
 frightening possibility that people raised regarding long term</DIV> <DI=
V>    effects from nuclear war? I seem to recall it was ca=
lled "nuclear winter"...</DIV> <DIV>3. The Biblical stories of Exodus and=
 Revelation. Ever seen 'Dante's Peak'? The fish boiled in the lake? The a=
cid waters? The</DIV> <DIV>    lava flows? The mud flows a=
nd floods? The town pulverised by a volcanic explosion?</DIV> <DIV>&=
nbsp;   It's been accepted in archaeological circles that the "=
shout"</DIV> <DIV>    that felled the walls of Jericho was=
 real, and was an earthquake in that notoriously earthquake-prone place c=
alled the</DIV> <DIV>    Middle East. Exodus and Revelatio=
n sure sound like volcanic events, probably on the ultra-plinian scale, V=
EI 7 or 8.</DIV> <DIV>    (That level, BTW, makes Krakatoa=
 look like a wet firecracker by comparison. The scale is logarithmic, jus=
t like the Richter</DIV> <DIV>    scale for earthquakes.) =
Indeed, fish boiled in volcanically-heated waters are a decent candidate =
for the "loaves and</DIV> <DIV>    fishes" that fed t=
he Israelites, who sure sound like refugees from a colossal natural disas=
ter. Present-day Indonesia is a</DIV> <DIV>    good candid=
ate site for such a prehistoric disaster. Revelation has several passages=
 of special significance, for its</DIV> <DIV>    "Beast" i=
s clearly none other than a volcanic island or mountain chain -=
- - one including seven major mountains or islands,</DIV> <DIV>  =
  ten individual volcanic vents or peaks, and a hellish am=
ount of fire and brimstone to hurl onto the surrounding landscape.</DIV> =
<DIV>    The passage about the Beast seeming mortally woun=
ded with one head cut off, only for it to regenerate, sounds a lot</DIV> =
<DIV>    like what happens every time Krakatoa (from that =
very region) blows its top -- the whole mountain is destroyed, but the</D=
IV> <DIV>    volcanic vent soon constructs a new one. One =
of the Beast's heads regularly falls off and regenerates to this very day=
!</DIV> <DIV>    The "number of the beast" probably refers=
 to the visual appearance of the area -- three of the peaks have a "tail"=
 off</DIV> <DIV>    the mountain peak, making it look=
 in relief topography like three sixes! (Historical note: in addition to =
the well-known</DIV> <DIV>    Krakatoa explosion of the la=
te 1880s, it did its thing in the 15th century too, with markedly similar=
 results -- a large</DIV> <DIV>    portion of the island w=
as utterly destroyed, and it regenerated by volcanic means, producing a n=
ew island amid the</DIV> <DIV>    exposed fragments of the=
 old -- which was itself destroyed in the 1880s eruption, only to be curr=
ently growing back</DIV> <DIV>    again.)</DIV> <DIV> =
;   Incidentally, a VEI 7+ volcanic eruption would probably hav=
e caused a 700-year winter as effectively as a nuclear war.</DIV> <DIV>&n=
bsp;</DIV> <DIV>Thus, there is much evidence to support a hypothesis that=
 an advanced civilization existed near present-day Indonesia 11,600 years=
 ago, probably spawning offshoots elsewhere, fought an internecine confli=
ct with nuclear weapons in its final</DIV> <DIV>years, and was thus weake=
ned into a state where an exploding volcano and nuke-and-volcano-assisted=
 climate fluctuations</DIV> <DIV>delivered the coup-de-grace.</DIV></BODY=
></HTML><DIV><BR><br clear=3Dall><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from M=
SN Hotmail at <a href=3D"http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</=
a>.<br></p></DIV>

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:37:33 -0500
From: "Multiple Bogeys" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist

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I'm sorry, but most e-mail clients (including the one I use) cannot intel=
ligibly render this markup.
Indeed, it looks like what happens if binary data with some embedded text=
 (e.g. a word processor document file) is sent as if it were plain text.

I suggest, therefore, that you compose future e-mails to the list with so=
mething other than Word.<br clear=3Dall><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail=
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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><P>I'm sorry, but m=
ost e-mail clients (including the one I use) cannot intelligibly render t=
his markup.</P> <P>Indeed, it looks like what happens if binary data with=
 some embedded text (e.g. a word processor document file) is sent as if i=
t were plain text.</P> <P> </P> <P>I suggest, therefore, that you co=
mpose future e-mails to the list with something other than Word.</P></BOD=
Y></HTML><DIV><BR><br clear=3Dall><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from =
MSN Hotmail at <a href=3D"http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com<=
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:39:10 -0500
From: "Multiple Bogeys" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 24-03-01 (Time for Closure [6])

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> Today's fractal image resembles a twisting spider's web closing
> on its victim, which is the midget at the center.  This inspired
> the rather unlikely name "Time for Closure".

Via 'Charlotte's Web' or via the mathematical jargon definition of "closu=
re"? :-)<br clear=3Dall><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmai=
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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>> Today's f=
ractal image resembles a twisting spider's web closing<BR>> on its vic=
tim, which is the midget at the center.  This inspired<BR>> the r=
ather unlikely name "Time for Closure".<BR></DIV> <DIV>Via 'Charlotte's W=
eb' or via the mathematical jargon definition of "closure"? :-)</DIV> <DI=
V><BR> </DIV></BODY></HTML><DIV><BR><br clear=3Dall><hr>Get Your Pri=
vate, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at <a href=3D"http://www.hotmail.com">=
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:09:38 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD  25-03-01  (Bits and Pieces [3])

Classic FOTD -- March 25, 2001 (Rating 3)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Today's fractal is hardly worth its exalted status as FOTD for
March 25.  With almost no time to spare, I went to the parent
fractal of a recent FOTD, named it "Bits and Pieces", and
anointed it FOTD for March 25.

The rush is still due to the move into the new Fractal Central
Auxiliary.  Now the problem is clearing and cleaning the fractal
vestiges from the old Fractal Central auxiliary by the end of
this week, when the lease expires.

This means one more week of hasty FOTD's then a return to the
rambling discussions that used to keep things lively on the
philofractal list, which is basically dead at the present time.

Today's image is named "Bits and Pieces" because of the
scattered fragments of Mandel-stuff that fill the scene.  The
parameter file renders in under four minutes, and the GIF file
will soon be available on the Web at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and at:

          <http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/fotd/>

The fractal weather today was cloudy and mild, with a
temperature of 62F (16.5C), which the fractal cats deemed ideal.

That's it for today.  I'll return in 24 hours, plus or minus 12
hours, with another fractal.  Until then, take care, and be
patient.


Jim Muth
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  formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=t
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  }

frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:56:20 -0600
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) "Fractal Art Screensaver Project" is ready.

Greetings,

I am sending out this notice after receiving an email from Doug
Harrington, explaing that his time has been very limited lately and that
he "would welcome any help" regarding posting a notice of the
availabibility of the new screensaver.

Doug mentioned that he has already "submitted the saver to a couple of
major software sites, ZDNET etc. and still have some to do....", so
hopefully word will soon spread with everybody's help.

Doug Harrington has spent a lot of time and effort on this volunteer
project that was introduced several weeks ago.  He has been
communicating with 49 different artists, at different times, about
different topics, over a 4-6 week to finally resolve all issues that
could be resolved (considering the time and number of individuals
involved).

The basic information about the "Fractal Art Screensaver Project" may be
found at the following URL:

     http://Fractalarts.com/ASF/FASP.html

where you can review the Artists that were involved and retrieve a copy
of this project.  The file is approximately 7-MB in size, but
considering the software and number of images, this is really a great
deal of information packed into a single file.

I hope that this is only the first of many such projects, or even a
series of screensavers showcasing the fractal art of the worldwide
community.

Sincerely,
P.N.L.

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:32:30 -0600
From: DeBow Freed <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) "Fractal Art Screensaver Project" is ready.

Fellow Fractaliers-

Please pardon my asking this question which has probably been answered
elsewhere - wherever I haven't yet looked.

Nevertheless, how does the current Fractal Screensaver Project relate to the
existing allegedly Fractint-based screensaver (which I have never been able
to successfully download, run, or get help in doing either from its
Norwegian author despite repeated requests)?

Improved user/author friendliness of the existing screensaver would be a
nice change, as, no doubt, would be an entirely new effort from the ground
up.

Could someone (e.g., PNL, JM, TW) offer a few lines of overview?

Thanks.

D Freed

"Paul N. Lee" wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I am sending out this notice after receiving an email from Doug
> Harrington, explaing that his time has been very limited lately and that
> he "would welcome any help" regarding posting a notice of the
> availabibility of the new screensaver.
>
> Doug mentioned that he has already "submitted the saver to a couple of
> major software sites, ZDNET etc. and still have some to do....", so
> hopefully word will soon spread with everybody's help.
>
> Doug Harrington has spent a lot of time and effort on this volunteer
> project that was introduced several weeks ago.  He has been
> communicating with 49 different artists, at different times, about
> different topics, over a 4-6 week to finally resolve all issues that
> could be resolved (considering the time and number of individuals
> involved).
>
> The basic information about the "Fractal Art Screensaver Project" may be
> found at the following URL:
>
>      http://Fractalarts.com/ASF/FASP.html
>
> where you can review the Artists that were involved and retrieve a copy
> of this project.  The file is approximately 7-MB in size, but
> considering the software and number of images, this is really a great
> deal of information packed into a single file.
>
> I hope that this is only the first of many such projects, or even a
> series of screensavers showcasing the fractal art of the worldwide
> community.
>
> Sincerely,
> P.N.L.
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:41:50 -0600
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) "Fractal Art Screensaver Project" is ready.

DeBow Freed wrote:
>
> Nevertheless, how does the current Fractal
> Screensaver Project relate to the existing
> allegedly Fractint-based screensaver.....

The FASP was a collaboration of many artists using various fractal
generators.  This was done to create a Freeware product, to showcase for
the general public, the beauty and diversity of fractal images (or for
the fractal enthusiast to use on their PC).  It is a standalone
screensaver program with the submitted images from 49 artists.

I believe the FractInt screensaver uses the PAR and FRM files to
generate images, but having never used Thore Berntsen's utility, I could
not give any further details.  I do know that the web site no longer has
it available for download.


Sincerely,
P.N.L.
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:46:40 +0200
From: "Edward Barton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist

I don't think that you fully understand either the amount of devotion to a
subject that monks have or the Mandelbrot set.
From the look of the sketches, I estimate that he calculated about only
10-15 iterations per pixel, at a very low resolution.  This could very well
have taken the time that he spent on it, giving about 1 minute per
iteration, that means at most 10 minutes per pixel, so perhaps with a
resolution of 200x200, 400000 minutes. 277 full days.

>From: "Rupert Millard" <[e-mail]>
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>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist
>Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:57:49 -0000
>
>Hi,
>
>Even with monastic devotion I do not believe that he could have calculated
>that image. Therefore I think that it must be a hoax.
>
>How would he have known that iterating that formula would produce something
>worth doing. If he did it at all, I think that he must have had help -
>perhaps he had pointers from superior beings.
>
>From,
>
>Rupert
>

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:23:50 -0600
From: Programmer Dude <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist

Abhishek Roy wrote:

> Hoax. Featured on both slashdot and kuro5hin. Apart from the date of
> the article, notice the name of the monk's helper.

Thelonius??

I don' get it....   ;-(

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:57:01 -0500
From: "MDrozdis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist

Thelonius Monk, Jazz Great.

Marie :)


- ----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: (fractint) Earthquake As Artist


> Abhishek Roy wrote:
>
> > Hoax. Featured on both slashdot and kuro5hin. Apart from the date
of
> > the article, notice the name of the monk's helper.
>
> Thelonius??
>
> I don' get it....   ;-(
>
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