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fractint-digest        Tuesday, January 9 2001        Volume 01 : Number 529




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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 17:48:52 -0600
From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi there!

Edward wrote:

> P.S. Does anyone know a way to doublespace a FAT32 harddrive without
> reformating it? I'm running out of space for the pictures.

GIF files are compressed, so a doublespaced drive will probably
not hold more Fractint GIF images than a non-doublespaced drive.

The solution is probably to install a new hard drive - a ridiculous
amount of space can be had for $100 or so, at least in the U.S. (I
realize that even $100 can be an issue for someone depending on
circumstances.)

I suggest any followups to this be taken to email so we don't start
an off topic thread. Or I could start a new list called
"fractint_off_topic" :-)

Tim


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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 17:54:03 -0600
From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) can someone please send me latest Fractint Digests

> You can access the artchibes via the web:

Over forty years ago my mother told me I should take a typing
class. Since I didn't do that, but maybe a proofreading class would
suffice :-)

I think I meant archives, but I confess "artchibes" sounds more
interesting ...

Tim


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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:33:37 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD  09-01-01  (FMOD Midget [7])

Classic FOTD -- January 09, 2001 (Rating 7)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

I have pigeonholed the Mindspring connection problem for a while
to devote my energies to the world of fractals, which is far
less frustrating and far more fun.  Today I investigated another
'evaporated' fractal, this time with a midget made visible by
the fmod inside fill.

The warhorse MandelbrotMix4 formula iterated the expression
4Z^(0.5)+0.04Z^(-3)+(1/C) to create a routine fractal featuring
a routine Mandelbrot set.  The routine nature of the fractal
vanished when I raised the bailout radius to 1,000,000,000,
which caused the entire fractal to evaporate, as all points
became trapped.  (The bailout has a great effect on formulae
that contain negative powers of Z.)

However, trapped points still do different things in their
trapped condition, and Fractint's different inside fill routines
can reveal interesting features, even when an image created with
the normal flat equal-iteration bands and inside=0 will give
nothing but a blank screen.

To reveal the hidden detail in today's scene, I used the fmod
inside fill, with the proximity set to 1.5.  The result is an
image with a totally unexpected series of sharp ridges, which
reminds me somewhat of the pattern left in the sand by gently
flowing water.

Unable to find a better name, I named the image "FMOD Midget",
and rated it a slightly liberal 7.  With a render time of 15
minutes, the parameter file is a little slow.  But in 16 hours
relief will be available on the Usenet group:

          alt.binaries.pictures.fractals

and well before then on the following web sites:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

          <http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/fotd/>

The fractal weather today was totally miserable as a combination
of cold rain and snow fell all day.  The wetness and temperature
of 33F (0.5C) kept the fractal cats pinned to their favorite
radiators most of the day.

While working with today's fractal, I began wondering whether
fractals are real or are created by fractal explorers in the act
of fractal exploration.  The question has been discussed before
on the philofractal list, but it's at least a sign that my long
slumbering philosophical muse may be reawakening.  If I can tear
myself away from the connection problem long enough, I actually
might be posting some worthwhile philosophy in a few days.

For the moment, there's nothing to do but shut down the fractal
shoppe and call it a night.  Until next time, take care, and
fractals are as real or unreal as one makes them, but as to
whether they exist before being discovered, any opinion is as
good as any other.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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FMOD_Midget        { ; time=0:14:46.50 -- SF5 on a P200
  reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
  formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1
  center-mag=-0.37795423333273510/+0.00011502762181923\
  /1.141389e+009/1/47.499 params=100/0.5/1/-3/-0.96/10\
  00000000 float=y maxiter=4800 inside=fmod
  proximity=1.5 logmap=yes periodicity=10
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  zN_zN_zLazJazIbzGbzEdzLizSnxYssdxnkzkqzfxzazzXzzRzzR\
  zzQzzQzzOzzOzz
  }

frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================

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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:52:13 +1300
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi there!

Guy Marson <[e-mail]> said:

> At 11:45 08/01/01 +0100, you wrote:
> >
> >P.S. Does anyone know a way to doublespace a FAT32 harddrive without
> >reformating it? I'm running out of space for the pictures.
>
> Salut Edward,
>
> faudrait les br√ler sur CD..
>
>
> Ciao,
>
> Guy
>
Store (at least the faster) images as PARs - you won't get much better
compression than that!

Morgan L. Owens
"Down to his last two gig on his second drive."



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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 20:42:56 -0600
From: "Scott D. Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hate to say this but...

On Monday 08 January 2001 10:39, Paul N. Lee wrote:

> And even when I create it by hand, it is still faster than the late=
st
> site which is developing scripting to publish the image.  But when =
Scott
> gets the "bugs" out, then you can go to that site and complain that=
 it
> doesn't appear instantaneously.
>
My biggest bug right now is that the script depends on the FOTD arriv=
ing=20
in my inbox the night before. When Jim is having technical problems, =
and=20
isn't able to post his FOTD until the actual day in the subject headi=
ng,=20
then my script doesn't pick it up. And I couldn't leave the script ru=
nning=20
today while I was at work, because it would have picked up tomorrow's=
=20
fractal OK, but then it would have inserted it into the HTML page wit=
h=20
today's date. (Or something like that.) 8-) Besides, Bogey, it would'=
ve=20
taken *at least* an hour to create today's fractal on my machine also=
!=20

Until later,
Scott Boyd
- --=20
[e-mail]
http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/
- ---------------------------------------
Linux...=20
"Find out what you've been missing while
you've been rebooting Windows NT."=20
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:14:51 -0800 (PST)
From: caren <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi there!

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 you might consider creating the images, then burning them to CD...  CD writers are coming down in price, and CDs themselves make quite economical long-term storage...  burn two copies and keep one in a safe-deposit...

  [e-mail] wrote:
Guy Marson said:

> At 11:45 08/01/01 +0100, you wrote:
> >
> >P.S. Does anyone know a way to doublespace a FAT32 harddrive without
> >reformating it? I'm running out of space for the pictures.
>
> Salut Edward,
>
> faudrait les br√ler sur CD..
>
>
> Ciao,
>
> Guy
>
Store (at least the faster) images as PARs - you won't get much better
compression than that!

Morgan L. Owens
"Down to his last two gig on his second drive."



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<P> you might consider creating the images, then burning them to CD...  CD writers are coming down in price, and CDs themselves make quite economical long-term storage...  burn two copies and keep one in a safe-deposit...  <BR>
<P>  <B><I>[e-mail]</I></B> wrote: <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Guy Marson <[e-mail]>said:<BR><BR>> At 11:45 08/01/01 +0100, you wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >P.S. Does anyone know a way to doublespace a FAT32 harddrive without<BR>> >reformating it? I'm running out of space for the pictures.<BR>><BR>> Salut Edward,<BR>><BR>> faudrait les br√ler sur CD..<BR>><BR>><BR>> Ciao,<BR>><BR>> Guy<BR>><BR>Store (at least the faster) images as PARs - you won't get much better<BR>compression than that!<BR><BR>Morgan L. Owens<BR>"Down to his last two gig on his second drive."<BR><BR><BR><BR>--------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List<BR>Post Message: [e-mail]<BR>Get Commands: [e-mail] "help"<BR>Administrator: [e-mail]<BR>Unsubscribe: [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"</BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
<a href="http://photos.yahoo.com/">Yahoo! Photos</a> -
Share your holiday photos online!
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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:17:32 -0600
From: "Scott D. Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hate to say this but...

On Monday 08 January 2001 16:15, you wrote:
>
> The problem is that it's impossible for the FOTD to appear on anyon=
e's
> web site before I write and post it.  If anyone knows a way around =
this
> impossibility, I would be grateful for the information.
>
What? You mean you don't have one of those new-fangled HP Cereberal=
=20
Scanners that scans your noggin' for fractal formulas before you even=
 come=20
up with them? And they even work when you're in the thick of the thin=
gs,=20
trying to get stubborn software to talk with deaf-and-dumb hardware!

Later Jim!
- --Scott
- --=20
[e-mail]
http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/
- ---------------------------------------
Linux...=20
"Find out what you've been missing while
you've been rebooting Windows NT."=20
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:40:14 +1300
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Hi from a real newbie (is that the word?)

wight <[e-mail]> said:

> I generated Mandelbrot figures many years ago using a program called Fractal
> Magic on my second PC, a 286.  I can remember starting a computation before
> I went to bed and letting it run all night and all the next day.  Now, using
> WinFract on a 450 MHrtz Pentium II machine, the longest I've had to wait is
> about 10 minutes for the deepest zooms the program will do (w/o the deep
> zoom routines).  Most computations are complete in less than a minute.
>
You might like to consider getting the DOS version of Fractint. Strange, I
know, but it's much more recent and much much more powerful.

> Can someone point me to a resource that tells how to create a color map for
> the FractInt program?
>
Instructions on editing existing colour maps can be found in the Fractint
documentation (unless that's something else Winfract lacks - I've never used it).

Creating a colour map from scratch is straightforward. It's a text file of up
to 256 lines, each line containing three numbers beween 0 and 256 (look at the
sample .map files in a text editor). The first row represents the first colour
in the map (or, rather, the 0th colour - the background) while the second,
third... etc. lines give the subsequent colours.

Each line has as I said three numbers between 0 and 256. These respectively
indicate the strengths of the red, green and blue components of that colour,
ranging from none at all (0) to as much as possible (256). So black is "0 0
0", white is "256 256 256" and pure red is "256 0 0".

Morgan L. Owens
"Now, doing it _creatively_ - that I can't teach you :)"


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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:41:04 +1300
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Hi from a real newbie (is that the word?)

wight <[e-mail]> said:

> I generated Mandelbrot figures many years ago using a program called Fractal
> Magic on my second PC, a 286.  I can remember starting a computation before
> I went to bed and letting it run all night and all the next day.  Now, using
> WinFract on a 450 MHrtz Pentium II machine, the longest I've had to wait is
> about 10 minutes for the deepest zooms the program will do (w/o the deep
> zoom routines).  Most computations are complete in less than a minute.
>
You might want to consider getting the canonical DOS version of Fractint.
Strange, I know, but it's much more recent and much much more powerful.

> Can someone point me to a resource that tells how to create a color map for
> the FractInt program?
>
Instructions on editing existing colour maps can be found in the Fractint
documentation (unless that's something else Winfract lacks - I've never used it).

Creating a colour map from scratch is straightforward. It's a text file of up
to 256 lines, each line containing three numbers beween 0 and 255 (look at the
sample .map files in a text editor). The first row represents the first colour
in the map (or, rather, the 0th colour - the background) while the second,
third... etc. lines give the subsequent colours.

Each line has as I said three numbers between 0 and 255. These respectively
indicate the strengths of the red, green and blue components of that colour,
ranging from none at all (0) to as much as possible (255). So black is "0 0
0", white is "255 255 255" and pure red is "255 0 0".

Morgan L. Owens
"Now, doing it _creatively_ - that I can't teach you :)"


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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 00:18:38 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi from a real newbie (is that the word?)

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If you want to make color maps- this program may help automate the process.
 at "Google.com" a search for Fractint mapmakers provides  94 hits.


Mapmaker -
Jack Orman
A program that is intended for use in generated color maps for Fractint,
however, it supports a variety of formats including Paint Shop PAL and Adobe
ACT. It can convert palettes between different formats and extracts palettes
from GIF, PCX or BMP images. Mapmaker can also generate random color maps and
palettes using a variety of algorithms. Free for non-commercial use only.

Windows 95/98/NT    Freeware    53 KB   4/10/2000
download:
<A HREF="http://www.muzique.com/amz/software.html">spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/jorman/jorman.html</A>


In a message dated 01/08/2001 10:14:09 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:



> Can someone point me to a resource that tells how to create a color map for
> the FractInt program?
>
>








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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=3 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">If you want to make color maps- this program may help automate the process.   <BR> at "Google.com" a search for Fractint mapmakers provides  94 hits.
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0"><B>Mapmaker -</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">
<BR>Jack Orman </B>
<BR>A program that is intended for use in generated color maps for Fractint, <BR>however, it supports a variety of formats including Paint Shop PAL and Adobe <BR>ACT. It can convert palettes between different formats and extracts palettes <BR>from GIF, PCX or BMP images. Mapmaker can also generate random color maps and <BR>palettes using a variety of algorithms. Free for non-commercial use only.
<BR>
<BR>Windows 95/98/NT    Freeware    53 KB   4/10/2000
<BR>download:
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#008000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0"><A HREF="http://www.muzique.com/amz/software.html">spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/jorman/jorman.html</A></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>In a message dated 01/08/2001 10:14:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, <BR>[e-mail] writes:
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Can someone point me to a resource that tells how to create a color map for <BR>the FractInt program?</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT></HTML>

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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 23:56:44 -0600
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi from a real newbie (is that the word?)

Bill wight wrote:
>
> Can someone point me to a resource that tells how to
> create a color map for the FractInt program?
>

An older easy to use program by Ron E. Barnett called "MakeMAP" is
probably what you are looking for:

    http://www.hiddendimension.com/futils.html

Then there are the other ones:

    http://www.fzint.org/fractals/
    http://members.tripod.com/softwork/fms/
    http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/9943/c.htm

Sincerely,
P.N.L.
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:35:03 -1000
From: "David Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hate to say this but...

Well, I'm still waiting for the DDTB (Direct Dump to
Brain) user interface they've been promising me as an
incentive for getting a brain ... ;-)

On  8 Jan 01 at 21:17, Scott D. Boyd wrote:

> On Monday 08 January 2001 16:15, you wrote:
> >
> > The problem is that it's impossible for the FOTD to appear on anyone's
> > web site before I write and post it.  If anyone knows a way around this
> > impossibility, I would be grateful for the information.
> >
> What? You mean you don't have one of those new-fangled
> HP Cereberal Scanners that scans your noggin' for
> fractal formulas before you even come up with them? And
> they even work when you're in the thick of the things,
> trying to get stubborn software to talk with
> deaf-and-dumb hardware!


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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 07:39:38 -0800
From: "Diana L. Dubel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Color maps

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Bill,

The document which comes with Fractint tells a lot.  If you go to the
directory where the fractint.exe file is, and type "fractint makedoc", you
will get lots of info.

You may be aware of this.

Regards,

Diana
  -----Original Message-----
  From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of wight
  Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 10:12 AM
  To: [e-mail]
  Subject: RE: (fractint) Hi from a real newbie (is that the word?)


   << Bill,

  I am delighted to see that there is a map for the Mandelbrot fractal.  It
is an incredibly fascinating object!

  Thanks,

  Diana >>

  Incredibly fascinating certainly describes the Mandelbrot Set.  I wish I
were a mathematician so I could understand how the plots are generated.  I
know that they are plots on the complex plane but I just cannot fathom how
all those shapes are created by such a simple formula--it seems like magic.

  I generated Mandelbrot figures many years ago using a program called
Fractal Magic on my second PC, a 286.  I can remember starting a computation
before I went to bed and letting it run all night and all the next day.
Now, using WinFract on a 450 MHrtz Pentium II machine, the longest I've had
to wait is about 10 minutes for the deepest zooms the program will do (w/o
the deep zoom routines).  Most computations are complete in less than a
minute.

  Can someone point me to a resource that tells how to create a color map
for the FractInt program?

  Bill

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D140473715-09012001><FONT face=3DArial>The document =
which comes=20
with Fractint tells a lot.  If you go to the directory where the=20
fractint.exe file is, and type "fractint makedoc", you will get lots of=20
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  size=3D2><SPAN class=3D890580118-08012001>I generated Mandelbrot =
figures many=20
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286.  I=20
  can remember starting a computation before I went to bed and letting =
it run=20
  all night and all the next day.  Now, using WinFract on a 450 =
MHrtz=20
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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 12:29:17 -0500
From: "Multiple Bogeys" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hate to say this but...

>And why is it so impossible for you to understand what has been
>explained to you so many times??

[Rest of blather deleted unread]

I know it may sometimes take an hour or two to get posted, but that just
means that while the FOTD appears on the list late at night, the Web site is
updated in the wee hours of the morning. I looked for it at eight the
following morning, when it bloody well normally is there!
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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 12:29:17 -0500
From: "Multiple Bogeys" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hate to say this but...

>And why is it so impossible for you to understand what has been
>explained to you so many times??

[Rest of blather deleted unread]

I know it may sometimes take an hour or two to get posted, but that just
means that while the FOTD appears on the list late at night, the Web site is
updated in the wee hours of the morning. I looked for it at eight the
following morning, when it bloody well normally is there!
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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 16:57:44 -0500
From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hate to say this but...

At 09:35 PM 1/8/2001 -1000, you wrote:

Would anyone (David and Scott) mind if I did a bit of snipping/editing and
added these to my file of "sigs'"?

As in:=20
"I'm still waiting for the DDTB (Direct Dump to=20
Brain) user interface they've been promising me as an=20
incentive for getting a brain ... " - David Jones

And:

"You mean you don't have one of those new-fangled
HP Cereberal Scanners that scans your noggin' for
ideas before you even come up with them? And
they even work when you're in the thick of the things,
trying to get stubborn software to talk with
deaf-and-dumb hardware!" - Scott D. Boyd

These are two absolute gems!

:)

David S.


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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 02:32:49 +0000
From: Aero <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hate to say this but...

In message <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes
>Multiple Bogeys wrote:
>
>>...there's a problem with the fotd web site again. It's eight in the morning
>>and it still doesn't seem to be there.
>
>The problem is that it's impossible for the FOTD to appear on anyone's web
>site before I write and post it.  If anyone knows a way around this
>impossibility, I would be grateful for the information.
>

Jim,

its about time you got your act together (after all everyone else
manages to post new a fractal parameter almost every single day...!)

why don't you clone yourself and send the other Jim to work so that you
can keep up with your fractal obligations.

And PLEASE, get yourself a TARDIS so you can go back and email fully
generated fractals (1600x1200 minimum please!) to us *before* we request
them.

Regards,

Aero   ;)

PS. Sarcasm mode off:    Respect due



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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:58:08 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hate to say this but...

On  Tue, 9 Jan 2001 at 02:32:49 Aero wrote:

>Its about time you got your act together (after all everyone else
>manages to post new a fractal parameter almost every single day...!)

>why don't you clone yourself and send the other Jim to work so that you
>can keep up with your fractal obligations.

>And PLEASE, get yourself a TARDIS so you can go back and email fully
>generated fractals (1600x1200 minimum please!) to us *before* we request
>them.

>Regards,

>Aero   ;)

>PS. Sarcasm mode off:    Respect due

(Sarcasm mode back on  ;-)  )

I have a much better and simpler idea -- instead of searching for a tardis,
(they are notoriously hard to find), why don't I start charging a
subscription
fee of about 10 U.S. dollars per month for the privilege of receiving the
daily FOTD.  That way, I would not be distracted by the inconvenience of
having to run a business to keep myself alive, and would be able to devote
at least 18 hours per day to finding fractals and writing about them.  I
might
even become rich and famous.

But since there will be no subscription fee, I will continue posting the
FOTD's for free as early and often as possible.

(Sarcasm mode off)

Jim M.


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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:11:01 +0100
From: "Ton Koppens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hate to say this but...

But Jim,

Famous you are and what is richness compared to that?

Regards

Ton


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Date: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hate to say this but...


>
>On  Tue, 9 Jan 2001 at 02:32:49 Aero wrote:
>
>>Its about time you got your act together (after all everyone else
>>manages to post new a fractal parameter almost every single day...!)
>
>>why don't you clone yourself and send the other Jim to work so that you
>>can keep up with your fractal obligations.
>
>>And PLEASE, get yourself a TARDIS so you can go back and email fully
>>generated fractals (1600x1200 minimum please!) to us *before* we request
>>them.
>
>>Regards,
>
>>Aero   ;)
>
>>PS. Sarcasm mode off:    Respect due
>
>(Sarcasm mode back on  ;-)  )
>
>I have a much better and simpler idea -- instead of searching for a tardis,
>(they are notoriously hard to find), why don't I start charging a
>subscription
>fee of about 10 U.S. dollars per month for the privilege of receiving the
>daily FOTD.  That way, I would not be distracted by the inconvenience of
>having to run a business to keep myself alive, and would be able to devote
>at least 18 hours per day to finding fractals and writing about them.  I
>might
>even become rich and famous.
>
>But since there will be no subscription fee, I will continue posting the
>FOTD's for free as early and often as possible.
>
>(Sarcasm mode off)
>
>Jim M.
>
>
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