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fractint-digest Friday, August 18 2000 Volume 01 : Number 491
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 22:32:59 -0400
From: "S. Wyszkowski" <swpaul@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD 15-08-00 (Fractal by Starlight [8])
Fractals and quantum mechanics - could the absolute randomness of the
outcome when the virtual quantum state "collapses" to an actually observed
event have something to do with it being played out on a fractal field? With
the possible outcomes and their probabilities representing a particular
palette of "colors"?
As for fractals and consciousness, there may be some kind of connection on
the operational level. But the intrinsic nature of
consciousness/awareness/experiencing/sensation/observation/happening/event
(consider them all synonyms) seems to be that of an inherent
property/quality of the stuff the universe is made of - perhaps it IS the
stuff the universe is made of.
S. W. Paul Wyszkowski
Images Invented and Discovered
swpaul@earthlink.net
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Muth" <jamth@mindspring.com>
>
> Fractals and consciousness -- I find the idea that there could
> be a connection most interesting. A connection also seems to
> exist between consciousness and the quantum level. Does this
> mean that there is also a connection between fractals and the
> quantum world? I must retire to my armchair for some deep
> thought before saying more.
>
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 23:47:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Muth <jamth@mindspring.com>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD 16-08-00 (A Forest Scene [5])
FOTD -- August 16, 2000 (Rating 5)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
For today's FOTD we leave the world of Mandelbrot midgets and
return to an area that I discovered by accident a number of
years ago. It is an area of stylized trees that exists in the
Julia orientation of the fractal that results when the formula
(-Z)^1.1+C is iterated and C is initialized to 4.
There's not much to be said about the image, which speaks for
itself, except that it resembles the scene one might see while
standing at the edge of a grove of trees, looking toward a
meadow beyond.
But the colors indicate that this is an other-worldly forest and
the meadow, an other-worldly meadow. Unfortunately, I captured
none of the skimmers that frequent the edges of forests on this
remote world. Maybe I'll find some in a future FOTD.
The lack of animal life in the picture is more than compensated
for by the quickness of the parameter file, which renders in
less than a minute. If any fractal fans would still prefer to
download the GIF file in more than a minute, (heaven knows why),
the file is available on Usenet at:
<alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>
and on the W.W.Web at:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
The fractal weather today was partly cloudy and 84F (29C). It
was a perfect day for cats, and the cats took advantage of it.
The philosophy still needs more time in the armchair.
And now it's time for me to take advantage of the evening news
show on TV to hear the blather at the big convention. Until
tomorrow, take care, and don't get lost in the world of fractals.
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:23:35 -0700
From: "John Wilson" <juanw@home.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD 15-08-00 (Fractal by Starlight [8])
>But the intrinsic nature of
> consciousness/awareness/experiencing/sensation/observation/happening/event
> (consider them all synonyms) seems to be that of an inherent
> property/quality of the stuff the universe is made of - perhaps it IS the
> stuff the universe is made of.
Hmmmm, we are back to Man being the center of the Universe? Without us the
Universe does not exist? Isn't that a mite egocentric?
Surely, too, every single one of the (synonymous?) properties listed are
dependent upon Time?
Um. and isn't time another facet of Space? Perhaps, after all, space-time
IS the stuff the universe is made of?
John W.
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:30:33 -0700
From: Karl Simanonok <karl@dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: (fractint) Fractals in Consciousness
If you're interested, please visit
http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/go/karl/consciousness.html for an explanation of
how patterns of light in the brain could give rise to consciousness. I
don't know what those patterns might actually look like, but I think
there's a good chance they might look like fractals of some type. They
would fill the brain's ventricles and probably spill over in a slightly
fuzzy fashion into the surrounding tissue a little.
I'm wondering if I could interest anyone on this list in fitting fractals
into the shapes of the brain's ventricles, where the light of consciousness
may shine? Because 'a picture is worth a thousand words' your artistic
conception might be more effective than all my text in conveying the
concept. I don't know how feasible fitting fractals to shapes is, but if
it's at all interesting to you, please let me know, on- or off-list. I can
either post to the Web or send you some good ventricle 'masks', if you are
interested in experimenting with the idea.
Regards,
Karl Simnonok
At 10:32 PM 8/15/2000 -0400, Paul Wyszkowski wrote:
>Fractals and quantum mechanics - could the absolute randomness of the
>outcome when the virtual quantum state "collapses" to an actually observed
>event have something to do with it being played out on a fractal field? With
>the possible outcomes and their probabilities representing a particular
>palette of "colors"?
>
>As for fractals and consciousness, there may be some kind of connection on
>the operational level. But the intrinsic nature of
>consciousness/awareness/experiencing/sensation/observation/happening/event
>(consider them all synonyms) seems to be that of an inherent
>property/quality of the stuff the universe is made of - perhaps it IS the
>stuff the universe is made of.
>
>S. W. Paul Wyszkowski
>Images Invented and Discovered
>swpaul@earthlink.net
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Muth" <jamth@mindspring.com>
> >
> > Fractals and consciousness -- I find the idea that there could
> > be a connection most interesting. A connection also seems to
> > exist between consciousness and the quantum level. Does this
> > mean that there is also a connection between fractals and the
> > quantum world? I must retire to my armchair for some deep
> > thought before saying more.
> >
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 22:13:48 -0700
From: "John Wilson" <juanw@home.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractals in Consciousness
Karl Simanonok wrote in the Fractint forum:
> I'm wondering if I could interest anyone on this list in fitting fractals
> into the shapes of the brain's ventricles, where the light of
consciousness
> may shine? Because 'a picture is worth a thousand words' your artistic
> conception might be more effective than all my text in conveying the
> concept. I don't know how feasible fitting fractals to shapes is, but if
> it's at all interesting to you, please let me know, on- or off-list. I can
> either post to the Web or send you some good ventricle 'masks', if you are
> interested in experimenting with the idea.
This is very relevant to a recent (half-hearted) discussion in the
Philofractal group!
Now *there's* a challenge for you Fractal Artists! IMHO true Art is
intentional, and doesn't lie in the finding of a pretty crystal or driftwood
section. Dripping paint onto rotating discs, or putting a paintbrush in
the trunk of an elephant does not produce "Art". Does an image in a my
kaleidoscope constitute "Art"? Even when I carefully select the internal
debris, and shake counterclockwise 13 times? What difference is there
between a kaleidoscopic image and a static two-dimensional fractal? Other
than the mechanical details of their production, that is. I maintain that
*true* Art is purposeful, and attempts to convey some message from the
artist to his audience. "Bad" art doesn't succeed. Maybe one of this
group can convince me that Fractals are "Art" by publishing a PAR that says
to at least some of us...."BRAIN"?
John. W.
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:39:00 -1000
From: "David Jones" <gnome@hawaii.rr.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD 15-08-00 (Fractal by Starlight [8])
Read thru "Turbulent Mirror" by John Briggs and F. David
Peat. Much interesting reading along both of those
lines.
On 15 Aug 00 at 22:32, S. Wyszkowski wrote:
> Fractals and quantum mechanics - could the absolute
> randomness of the outcome when the virtual quantum state
> "collapses" to an actually observed event have something
> to do with it being played out on a fractal field? With
> the possible outcomes and their probabilities
> representing a particular palette of "colors"?
>
> As for fractals and consciousness, there may be some
> kind of connection on the operational level. But the
> intrinsic nature of
> consciousness/awareness/experiencing/sensation/observati
> on/happening/event (consider them all synonyms) seems to
> be that of an inherent property/quality of the stuff the
> universe is made of - perhaps it IS the stuff the
> universe is made of.
>
> S. W. Paul Wyszkowski
> Images Invented and Discovered
> swpaul@earthlink.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Muth" <jamth@mindspring.com>
> >
> > Fractals and consciousness -- I find the idea that there could
> > be a connection most interesting. A connection also seems to
> > exist between consciousness and the quantum level. Does this
> > mean that there is also a connection between fractals and the
> > quantum world? I must retire to my armchair for some deep
> > thought before saying more.
Another blast of bits from David
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/aliasjj/ http://www.hawastsoc.org/
For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast:
http://www.surfreporthawaii.com
Random Thought for this Nanosecond
Pentium? Isn't that a new gadget for cooking eggs? (D.Jones)
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:13:53 +1200
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <packrat@nznet.gen.nz>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractals in Consciousness
At 19:30 15/08/2000 -0700, Karl Simnonok wrote:
>I'm wondering if I could interest anyone on this list in fitting fractals
>into the shapes of the brain's ventricles, where the light of
>consciousness may shine? Because 'a picture is worth a thousand words'
>your artistic conception might be more effective than all my text in
>conveying the concept. I don't know how feasible fitting fractals to
>shapes is, but if it's at all interesting to you, please let me know, on-
>or off-list. I can either post to the Web or send you some good ventricle
>'masks', if you are interested in experimenting with the idea.
You might want to have a look at Barnseley's _Fractals Everywhere_, in
which he describes how IFS can be used to do just what you described. He
also designed and implemented the Fractal Image Format using his ideas
which, if you're willing to pay the license fee for a proprietary image
format, does exactly this sort of "fitting fractals to images". On the
other hand there is no doubt a fair bit of public-domain software floating
around that does similar.
Morgan L. Owens
"A glimmer of hope..."
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:41:48 -0400
From: "S. Wyszkowski" <swpaul@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD 15-08-00 (Fractal by Starlight [8])
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "John Wilson" <juanw@home.com>
To: <fractint@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD 15-08-00 (Fractal by Starlight [8])
> >But the intrinsic nature of
> >
consciousness/awareness/experiencing/sensation/observation/happening/event
> > (consider them all synonyms) seems to be that of an inherent
> > property/quality of the stuff the universe is made of - perhaps it IS
the
> > stuff the universe is made of.
>
> Hmmmm, we are back to Man being the center of the Universe? Without us
the
> Universe does not exist? Isn't that a mite egocentric?
I didn't mention Man specifically - I don't think consciousness is exclusive
to humans. After all, if the Universe is made of consciousness, every entity
would possess the quality of consciousness. An elementary event (i.e.
exchange of a single bit of information) would represent an elementary unit
of consciousness.
> Surely, too, every single one of the (synonymous?) properties listed are
> dependent upon Time?
> Um. and isn't time another facet of Space? Perhaps, after all,
space-time
> IS the stuff the universe is made of?
Perhaps space-time is a creature of consciousness...
S. W. Paul Wyszkowski
Images Invented and Discovered
swpaul@earthlink.net
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:34:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Muth <jamth@mindspring.com>
Subject: (fractint) Re: FOTD 15-08-00
At 09:23 PM 8/15/00 -0700, John Wilson wrote:
>S. Wyszkowski wrote:
>>But the intrinsic nature of consciousness/awareness/
>>experiencing/sensation/observation/happening/event
>>(consider them all synonyms) seems to be that of an inherent
>>property/quality of the stuff the universe is made of --
>>perhaps it IS the stuff the universe is made of.
>Hmmmm, we are back to Man being the center of the Universe?
>Without us the Universe does not exist? Isn't that [idea] a
>mite egocentric?
Yes the idea is egocentric, but it may be true. And does your
emotion-based denial make the idea less likely to be true? The
fact is that the universe *might* be partly a creation of the
human mind. Idealists cannot show that the universe as we know
it is some kind of self-generated illusion, but materialists
cannot show that the universe is really out there. And even if
Materialism is correct, one thing we can be pretty certain of is
that something non-intuitive and not quite material is happening
down at the quantum level, which means that Materialism will
need to be modified if it hopes to explain everything at every
level. (I sometimes suggest that Materialism change its name to
Energism.)
>Surely, too, every single one of the (synonymous?) properties
>listed are dependent upon Time? Um. and isn't time another
>facet of Space? Perhaps, after all, space-time IS the stuff
>the universe is made of?
And perhaps space-time is the blank screen of the mind, upon
which the film of the material universe is projected. We can
imagine the non-existence of matter, but we cannot imagine the
non-existence of space and time. Could this be because space
and time are in some way a part of the mind itself?
(If we're going to continue this thread, let's move it to the
philofractal list.)
Jim M.
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:37:03 -0500
From: "Jonathan Osuch" <osuchj@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Attn: Robin Bussell, re Evolver
Mark,
> I have, on a number of occasions, run into saved
> Evolver GIFs that cannot be used for continued evolution.
Part of the problem is with the use of random variations. The fix, while
obvious, is not so easy to implement. I should have it done by this
weekend.
I still don't know why sometimes the subimages are regenerated on a restore,
and sometimes they aren't.
Jonathan
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 01:05:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Muth <jamth@mindspring.com>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD 17-08-00 (Magical Tree [6])
FOTD -- August 17, 2000 (Rating 6)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
Today's image is a further investigation of the tree effect that
appeared in yesterday's FOTD picture. I lowered the exponent of
(-Z) from 1.1 to 1.08 and drew a slice rotated 30 degrees from
the Elliptic direction toward the Parabolic direction.
In this direction the tree effect is still very prominent, and
in addition the trees have an irregular shape more like actual
trees. The effect of the lesser exponent is visible in the
smaller, more delicate branches on the tree. Since such a tree
is so unexpected, I named the picture "Magical Tree" and gave it
a somewhat above average rating of 6.
The coloring is intended as more of a design that an effort to
achieve the appearance of a real tree. And no, I used no third-
party graphic program to liven up the color palette, as I
sometimes do.
To run today's parameter file, patch 13 of Fractint V-20, which
has two more complex parameter entries, must be used. The file
is available at http://www.fractint.org/ftp/ the name of the
file is fradev20.0.13.zip
The parameter file runs in 9 minutes once the correct version of
Fractint is obtained. And if this is too much trouble, the pre-
rendered GIF file of the image is ready for download at:
<alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>
and at:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
The fractal weather today was sunny, with a temperature of 88F
(31C), which pleased the cats so much that they slept all
afternoon.
A tiny bit of philosophy appeared this morning, but far more is
cooking, and could be ready for dissemination any day now.
Until tomorrow, take care, and see you in 24 hours.
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:59:47 +0200
From: Guy Marson <guy.marson@mnhn.lu>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Patch 13
Hi Jonathan,
At 08:41 13/08/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Guy,
>
>> I found a bug(?) in Fractint 20.0 Patch 13:
>
>Setting textsafe=save in your SSTOOLS.INI file will fix it.
>
>This bug, as well as the textsafe options, will go away once we complete the
>port to a 32-bit environment. By this I mean a DOS/Windows port. I already
>have an Xfractint version running that utilizes the Allegro graphics
>package. It is still far from complete, but porting to djgpp or a Windows
>compiler could be started.
>
>Jonathan
Just back from a vacation trip in Southern France, I tried it your way..
ok, it works!
thanks and cheers,
Guy
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:41:36 EDT
From: JimMuth@aol.com
Subject: (fractint) FOTD 18-08-00 (The Parent Fractal [*])
FOTD -- August 18, 2000 (Rating *)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
*Because today's FOTD is a special one, I have not given it a
rating. If I were to rate it as a picture, it would rate a 3,
but as I said, it is a special FOTD, one not subject to the
normal quality standards.
When discussing my FOTD's, I often refer to the parent fractal,
a mysterious thing that exists unseen in the background, yet is
the ground of being for the image on the screen. Well, today is
the day we reveal that mysterious parent fractal that has lain
behind so many recent FOTD images.
The formula of this fractal is -1Z^(-11)-11Z^(-1.1)+(1/C). The
fractal itself, a sprawling thing with its fan and its rings, is
perhaps the most varied I have yet stumbled upon. On the near
left side, a Mandel-shaped feature stands as the center of
action, with the curious and bizarre fan-shaped feature just to
its right. Rings decorate the ends of the many filaments, and
the many holes are beyond description.
Midgets lie everywhere in this fractal. In some areas, such as
around the Mandel-shaped feature, they are easy to find; in
other areas, such as the center of the fan and in the rings,
they are quite difficult to locate; but in all areas the midgets
do exist, hidden and waiting to be discovered.
I show this fractal today because I will be searching through it
for a few weeks, finding midgets and speaking of their parent
fractal. When I refer to the parent fractal, today's FOTD is
the fractal I am referring to.
The parameter file is very fast, running in under one minute.
But the download is equally fast. That download may be found at:
<alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>
and at:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
The fractal weather was sunny all morning, but it turned cloudy
in the afternoon, and rain is threatening tonight. The fractal
cats, Thomas and Tippy, found the conditions ideal, spending the
better part of the day lounging in the partial shade of the
porch.
The fractal philosophy stumbled along today, generally going
nowhere. I have nothing to post at this time, though my
philofractal mailbox holds a letter from JW, which I haven't
read yet. When I do read it, it might give me the inspiration
for a few words.
For now, the day has ended, the FOTD has ended, and I'm shutting
down Fractal Central for another day. Until tomorrow, take
care, and see you then.
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:13:47 -0700
From: Karl Simanonok <karl@dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD 18-08-00 (The Parent Fractal [*])
Hi Jim,
Your daily fractals (FOTD) are very nice and dynamic, changing every day,
but the link you provide is static, which only leads to your homepage. How
about saving us some mouseclicks and sending out the actual URL to the
FOTD? So today's would be
http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD_00-08-17.html and not
http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html.
Regards,
Karl Simanonok
At 10:41 PM 8/17/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>FOTD -- August 18, 2000 (Rating *)
>
>Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
>
>*Because today's FOTD is a special one, I have not given it a
>rating. If I were to rate it as a picture, it would rate a 3,
>but as I said, it is a special FOTD, one not subject to the
>normal quality standards.
>
>When discussing my FOTD's, I often refer to the parent fractal,
>a mysterious thing that exists unseen in the background, yet is
>the ground of being for the image on the screen. Well, today is
>the day we reveal that mysterious parent fractal that has lain
>behind so many recent FOTD images.
>
>The formula of this fractal is -1Z^(-11)-11Z^(-1.1)+(1/C). The
>fractal itself, a sprawling thing with its fan and its rings, is
>perhaps the most varied I have yet stumbled upon. On the near
>left side, a Mandel-shaped feature stands as the center of
>action, with the curious and bizarre fan-shaped feature just to
>its right. Rings decorate the ends of the many filaments, and
>the many holes are beyond description.
>
>Midgets lie everywhere in this fractal. In some areas, such as
>around the Mandel-shaped feature, they are easy to find; in
>other areas, such as the center of the fan and in the rings,
>they are quite difficult to locate; but in all areas the midgets
>do exist, hidden and waiting to be discovered.
>
>I show this fractal today because I will be searching through it
>for a few weeks, finding midgets and speaking of their parent
>fractal. When I refer to the parent fractal, today's FOTD is
>the fractal I am referring to.
>
>The parameter file is very fast, running in under one minute.
>But the download is equally fast. That download may be found at:
>
> <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>
>
>and at:
>
> <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
>
>The fractal weather was sunny all morning, but it turned cloudy
>in the afternoon, and rain is threatening tonight. The fractal
>cats, Thomas and Tippy, found the conditions ideal, spending the
>better part of the day lounging in the partial shade of the
>porch.
>
>The fractal philosophy stumbled along today, generally going
>nowhere. I have nothing to post at this time, though my
>philofractal mailbox holds a letter from JW, which I haven't
>read yet. When I do read it, it might give me the inspiration
>for a few words.
>
>For now, the day has ended, the FOTD has ended, and I'm shutting
>down Fractal Central for another day. Until tomorrow, take
>care, and see you then.
>
>
>Jim Muth
>jamth@mindspring.com
>
>
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:17:22 -0400
From: Mike Traynor <lmtraynor@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD 18-08-00 (The Parent Fractal [*])
Jim,
> FOTD -- August 18, 2000 (Rating *)
>
> Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
>
> *Because today's FOTD is a special one, I have not given it a
> rating. If I were to rate it as a picture, it would rate a 3,
> but as I said, it is a special FOTD, one not subject to the
> normal quality standards.
>
> When discussing my FOTD's, I often refer to the parent fractal,
> a mysterious thing that exists unseen in the background, yet is
> the ground of being for the image on the screen. Well, today is
> the day we reveal that mysterious parent fractal that has lain
> behind so many recent FOTD images.
Maybe you can rate it once you are done with the next few FOTDs on
the basis of its fecundity, using the average rating of the
midgets you find, or may that of the best of them.
Mike
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:17:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Muth <jamth@mindspring.com>
Subject: (fractint) Re: FOTD 18-08-00 (The Parent Fractal [*])
At 06:13 PM 8/17/00 -0700, Karl Simanonok wrote:
>Hi Jim,
>
>Your daily fractals (FOTD) are very nice and dynamic, changing every day,
>but the link you provide is static, which only leads to your homepage. How
>about saving us some mouseclicks and sending out the actual URL to the
>FOTD? So today's would be
>http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD_00-08-17.html and not
>http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html.
>
>Regards,
>
>Karl Simanonok
Karl:
The reason I do not do this is because the FOTD page is maintained by
Paul Lee, and not by myself. I do not know the URL's of the individual
FOTD's until after Paul has posted them.
However, I would assume that the sample URL you supplied would be valid
for all FOTD's with no more than an appropriate change of date.
Jim M.
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:50:48 -0500
From: "Jonathan Osuch" <osuchj@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Attn: Robin Bussell, re Evolver
Mark,
The patch 14 executable file is available at http://www.fractint.org/ftp/
the name of the file is fradev20.0.14.zip
This fixes both the regeneration of completed images and the incorrect
determination of random numbers, which caused the regeneration to have
different subimages. You may still have problems using old images, but any
new images should function correctly. I found that there are cases where an
old image will still not let you generate the correct subimages, but this is
not new behavior. I know why this happened and there is no way to determine
what the original parameters were. I fixed the problem so it won't happen
from now on.
Jonathan
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:36:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Muth <jamth@mindspring.com>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD 19-08-00 (A Midget from the Fan [5])
FOTD -- August 19, 2000 (Rating 5)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
For today's FOTD I tackled the center of the fan that appears in
yesterday's image, which is the parent fractal of many midgets
past and future. The midget in today's image was not as hard to
find as I had expected.
The fan-like feature in the parent fractal is filled with holes
as well as discontinuities. I began my search in one of the
holes that was not broken by a discontinuity. I found a
symmetrical pair of features almost at once, with the midget
lying at the center as expected.
When I found the midget, I was almost disappointed at how easy
the search had been. There must be more than this around, I
thought. Then I noticed that the midget was surrounded by a
whole flock of symmetrical features, each apparently with a
midget at the center. I chose a likely feature in the northeast
suburbs of the larger midget and found the midget of today's
image at the center.
The picture, which I have named "A Midget from the Fan" is an
interesting one to color. The broad palettes that work so well
on most midgets don't work at all on today's strange little
fellow, which turns boringly flat. Instead, I used a totally
random palette, fine tuning only a few registers. The result is
a patchwork but still attractive picture that rates a perfectly
average 5.
With a render time of almost 14 minutes, the parameter file is
uncomfortably slow. But there is no need for concern, as the
pre-rendered GIF image file has been posted to Usenet at the
site:
<alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>
and to Paul Lee's FOTD web page at:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
The fractal weather today was cloudy and cool with just enough
occasional light rain to keep things damp. The dampness and
temperature of 68F (20C) combined to keep the fractal cats
safely ensconced indoors.
And speaking of being ensconced, I'm about to ensconce myself in
my overstuffed chair for some heavy TV watching and dozing. But
I'll return tomorrow right on schedule with another FOTD to
amuse, entertain, and enlighten. Until then, take care, and
don't let a failed fractal get you down.
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
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