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fractint-digest        Saturday, March 18 2000        Volume 01 : Number 458




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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:03:26 +0100
From: Guy Marson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat

At 23:43 15/03/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Mike Traynor wrote:
>>
>> The version of Partobat at Spanky did
>> not run on my PIII.  Jo Weber's site
>> has two more recent versions at:
>>
>> http://www.hajoweber.de/download/programs.htm
>>
>> and the latter of these ran fine on my machine under W98.
>>
>> "Paul N. Lee" wrote:
>> >
>> > Yes, it has worked fine on both releases of Windows-98.
>> >
>> >     http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/
>> >
>
>These are the versions that are available at Spanky's from the URL I
>gave above:
>
>     PARTOB.DOC,      1 Kb,
>     PARTOB.ZIP,     18 Kb,
>     PARTOB34.ZIP,   18 Kb,
>     PARTOB35.ZIP,   18 Kb,
>
>Don't remember where I got mine, but I know that the copies on my
>various PCs were acquired quite some time ago (in the previous
>millenium).
>
>
>P.N.L.



Hi fractinters,

Many thanks to everybody for the info's about partobat!
i'm running now the version 3.5, my old 3.1 is out of order..

cheers,

Guy


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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:03:26 +0100
From: Guy Marson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat

At 23:43 15/03/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Mike Traynor wrote:
>>
>> The version of Partobat at Spanky did
>> not run on my PIII.  Jo Weber's site
>> has two more recent versions at:
>>
>> http://www.hajoweber.de/download/programs.htm
>>
>> and the latter of these ran fine on my machine under W98.
>>
>> "Paul N. Lee" wrote:
>> >
>> > Yes, it has worked fine on both releases of Windows-98.
>> >
>> >     http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/
>> >
>
>These are the versions that are available at Spanky's from the URL I
>gave above:
>
>     PARTOB.DOC,      1 Kb,
>     PARTOB.ZIP,     18 Kb,
>     PARTOB34.ZIP,   18 Kb,
>     PARTOB35.ZIP,   18 Kb,
>
>Don't remember where I got mine, but I know that the copies on my
>various PCs were acquired quite some time ago (in the previous
>millenium).
>
>
>P.N.L.



Hi fractinters,

Many thanks to everybody for the info's about partobat!
i'm running now the version 3.5, my old 3.1 is out of order..

cheers,

Guy


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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 23:31:14 -1000
From: "David Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: FOTD, 17-03-00 (Tessellation [5]) (c)

On 17 Mar 00 at 0:11, Jim Muth wrote:

> A tessellation is a pattern of small square blocks,
> such as might be seen covering a tile floor.  The
> blocks in today's fractal are not exactly square, but
> they do remind me of a tessellated tile floor.  I
> therefore named the picture "Tessellation".

That is such a neat image. Thanks, Jim!

David


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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:00:45 +0100
From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal art FAQ

Hi all,

The draft for a future fractal art FAQ can be found at
http://www-hs.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr/f-art-faq/
The first page is self-explaining (read it carefully) but I wish to
emphasize two or three points.
First the obvious place to discuss about its final version is the fractal
art discussion list and, for some specialized topics, the fractint list or
the ultra fractal one.
In all the cases I ask you to cross-post to [e-mail]
to help me in the task of archiving your contributions which are hoped to be
numerous (please, use also this address for private discussions about this
project).
This will be done in an automatic way if you click on any of the mailto
links which are in the first page of the FAQ.
You will see that the section relative to technical questions about the most
used programs is empty. Many of you are more experienced than me to
contribute to this part.
And I hope sincerely that you will not agree with all the questions/answers
that I offer to your criticism.
You are all welcome to contribute. It is not _my_ FAQ, it is only my draft
for a future FAQ.
Thank you in advance.

J.P. Louvet


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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:21:28 GET
From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing l-systems - clarification

>Yes, it would. But a true fractal doesn't keep the same amount
>of detail at all sizes. It gets more detail as it gets bigger.
>The only way to implement this is by recalculating it with an
>l-system program such as Fractint.
>
>Sincerely,
>         Collin Merenoff
>
Look, sorry, but I'm NOT talking about increasing detail as I enlarge.  Only
about enlarging without diagonal lines going jagged.  I have my reasons for
this, strange as it may sound.  (E.g. a font based on a fractal such as an
L-system - see it at any size, in the same L-system order, and it looks the
same.)  I hope this is clear...

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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:25:07 -0600
From: DeBow Freed II PhD <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD, 17-03-00 (Tessellation [5]) (c)

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Jim Muth wrote:

> FOTD -- March 17, 2000  (Rating 5)
>
> Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:
>
> A tessellation is a pattern of small square blocks, such as
> might be seen covering a tile floor.  The blocks in today's
> fractal are not exactly square, but they do remind me of a
> tessellated tile floor.  I therefore named the picture
> "Tessellation".
>

Dear Jim-

Don't mean to be a jerk, but a tesselation is is a pattern of "tiles" -
each of which is not necessarily square - which needn't necessarily be
rectangular (think of a Mondrian painting of which the "kitchen floor"
example, in which all the tiles are square, is a trivial example).
By far the most interesting mathematical (and aesthetic) examples were
discovered in the 70's and 80's when (I think) Pickover discovered and
proved that the infinite plane or any 2-D manifold (the mathematicians
in the audience will start murdering me now) can be completely covered
by "tiles" of a particular shape he called "kites" and "darts", for
obvious reasons. Escher is another artist who figured out a variety of
ways to completely fill a rectangular or square plane with oddly-shaped,
visually-pleasing "tiles"
Subsequently, I believe, extensions of the same theorem have been
produced which basically allow you to completely cover any arbitrary
surface with only 2 differently- shaped tiles, of which the original
kites and darts are but one example.
The practical applications of being able to know that your tiling of a
certain 2-D or 3-D surface is a) possible, b) unique, and c) efficient
is useful in chip design (a la Mondrian), biologists examining monolayer
growth of  normal vs cancer cells, anyone interested in epitaxial
deposition of silicon, diamond, copper, or carbon (either elemental or
as buckeyball or buckeytubes)., etc, etc.
Well, I'd better quit before I dig too deep a hole for myself. Thanks
for brightening all my days with your FTOD's and accompanying
commentary. I thought "Tessellation" was particularly appealing.
Wouldn't it be interesting to have one of our topologist-contributors
use Fractint to graphically prove some of the outstanding issues in the
tiling business??

Thanks again. Hope I'm not too far off-base in submitting these
gratuitous comments.

>
> The formula that created the picture is (Z^0.6)+2.4(Z^(-1.9))+C.
> The value of -92 assigned to imag(p3) sets the bailout radius to
> 8.  Changing this parameter changes the size of the individual
> tiles making up the image.  Changing any of the other five
> parameters creates a totally new image.
>
> At 27 minutes, the parameter file is a slow one to render.  All
> but the most patient will want to go to the Usenet group:
>
>           <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>
>
> or to Paul Lee's web site at:
>
>           <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
>
> and download the already rendered image from there.
>
> As for the fractal weather, it was questionable today.  Most of
> the day was cloudy and mild with a temperature of 68F (20C) --
> conditions that the cats found enjoyable.  But in the late
> afternoon a steady rain began, which is still continuing.
>
> Due to too much other work, my philosophical efforts went
> nowhere today.  I'll try again tomorrow.  Until next time, take
> care, and keep your fractals dry.
>
> Jim Muth
> [e-mail]
>
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>
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> |z| < l
> }
>
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<p>Jim Muth wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>FOTD -- March 17, 2000  (Rating 5)
<p>Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:
<p>A tessellation is a pattern of small square blocks, such as
<br>might be seen covering a tile floor.  The blocks in today's
<br>fractal are not exactly square, but they do remind me of a
<br>tessellated tile floor.  I therefore named the picture
<br>"Tessellation".
<br> </blockquote>
Dear Jim-
<p>Don't mean to be a jerk, but a tesselation is is a pattern of "tiles"
- - each of which is <b>not</b> necessarily square - which needn't necessarily
be rectangular (think of a Mondrian painting of which the "kitchen floor"
example, in which all the tiles are square, is a trivial example).
<br>By far the most interesting mathematical (and aesthetic) examples were
discovered in the 70's and 80's when (I think) Pickover discovered and
proved that the infinite plane or any 2-D manifold (the mathematicians
in the audience will start murdering me now) can be <u>completely covered
by "tiles" of a particular shape he called "kites" and "darts", for obvious
reasons. </u>Escher is another artist who figured out a variety of ways
to completely fill a rectangular or square plane with oddly-shaped, visually-pleasing
"tiles"
<br>Subsequently, I believe, extensions of the same theorem have been produced
which basically allow you to completely cover any arbitrary surface with
only 2 differently- shaped tiles, of which the original kites and darts
are but one example.
<br>The practical applications of being able to know that your tiling of
a certain 2-D or 3-D surface is a) possible, b) unique, and c) efficient
is useful in chip design (a la Mondrian), biologists examining monolayer
growth of  normal vs cancer cells, anyone interested in epitaxial
deposition of silicon, diamond, copper, or carbon (either elemental or
as buckeyball or buckeytubes)., etc, etc.
<br>Well, I'd better quit before I dig too deep a hole for myself. Thanks
for brightening all my days with your FTOD's and accompanying commentary.
I thought "Tessellation" was particularly appealing.
<br>Wouldn't it be interesting to have one of our topologist-contributors
use Fractint to graphically prove some of the outstanding issues in the
tiling business??
<p>Thanks again. Hope I'm not too far off-base in submitting these gratuitous
comments.
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>
<br>The formula that created the picture is (Z^0.6)+2.4(Z^(-1.9))+C.
<br>The value of -92 assigned to imag(p3) sets the bailout radius to
<br>8.  Changing this parameter changes the size of the individual
<br>tiles making up the image.  Changing any of the other five
<br>parameters creates a totally new image.
<p>At 27 minutes, the parameter file is a slow one to render.  All
<br>but the most patient will want to go to the Usenet group:
<p>          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>
<p>or to Paul Lee's web site at:
<p>          <<a href="http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html">http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html</a>>
<p>and download the already rendered image from there.
<p>As for the fractal weather, it was questionable today.  Most of
<br>the day was cloudy and mild with a temperature of 68F (20C) --
<br>conditions that the cats found enjoyable.  But in the late
<br>afternoon a steady rain began, which is still continuing.
<p>Due to too much other work, my philosophical efforts went
<br>nowhere today.  I'll try again tomorrow.  Until next time,
take
<br>care, and keep your fractals dry.
<p>Jim Muth
<br>[e-mail]
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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:16:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: FOTD, 17-03-00 (Tessellation)

At 11:25 AM 3/17/00 -0600, DeBow Freed II wrote:

>Don't mean to be a jerk, but a tesselation is is a pattern of "tiles" -
>each of which is not necessarily square - which needn't necessarily be
>rectangular ...  <snipped>

You are technically correct.  Being unable to think of a definition,
I turned to an old (circa 1945) dictionary and found the definition
there.  In that dictionary, the requirement that the tiles be square
is unambiguous.  But since then it has been accepted that any shape or
shapes that tile the plane or fill space can be called a tessellation.

BTW, IMO, Escher was the greatest mathematical artist of all time.  I
wonder what he would have done if he had seen the age of fractals.

Jim M.


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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 23:29:03 -0600
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) REQ:  Fractal Census 2000

Greetings Fractal Community,

If you would be so kind, I would like to impose upon everyone to take a
moment and please supply some information:

    1.  The number of individuals in your household
        that create fractals.

    2.  The number and names of fractal generating
        programs used by each of these individuals.

    3.  Which fractal program is considered as the
        best or most used by each of these individuals.

Replys are requested to be sent to the following email address:
    MAILTO:[e-mail]

The results will be made available upon completion of the census.

Thank you for your support and co-operation.

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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:57:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 18-03-00 (West of Arcturus [5]) (c)

FOTD -- March 18, 2000  (Rating 5)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Looking from the Fractal Central window this evening, I saw the
0-magnitude star Arcturus rising in the east.  Turning and
looking at the monitor screen, I saw a stellar scene, with the
stars arranged in galaxy arms resembling Mandelbrot buds.  Right
then and there I named the picture "West of Arcturus:

The image is another of those ghost pictures that consist
entirely of inside fill.  In this case the fill is bof60.  The
formula behind the scene is 0.476*(Z)+1.302*(1/Z)+C, a
combination that promises nothing but delivers much.

The picture is quite different from my current series of fancy
midgets, though many midgets lie hidden in the scene.  The
standard equal-iteration bands have been replaced by swirling
clouds of multi-colored bits of fractal stuff, arranged into a
subtle but quite recognizable series of Mandelbrot buds.

The image, being one of a starry night sky, is quite low-key,
best viewed in subdued light.  A bright light in the room
totally obliterates the delicate deep blue glow of the
background sky.

The parameter file is another slow one, requiring almost 3/4
hour to render on a modest Pentium 200mhz.  A faster machine
will finish in less time, but still not fast enough to nullify
the advantage of downloading the pre-rendered JPEG image from:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

or from:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather today turned unexpectedly cold, with an
afternoon temperature of 37F (3C) that kept the fractal cats
stretched by their radiator.

Just as the weather kept the cats subdued, so did the rush keep
my philosophical aspirations subdued.  But I have certainly not
forgotten the things I have to tell about fractals and reality.

Tomorrow may be the day I tell all; more likely it will not.  In
any event, check then to see what happens.  You wouldn't want to
miss your enlightenment.   :-)  Until next time, take care, and
be enlightened, not frightened.


Jim Muth
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g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 23:02:05 PST
From: "Eleanor Adika" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal art FAQ

Hi

Only the suggested tipics were available - and the title - table of
contents.  Is there more?

Eleanor

>From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: "Fractint list" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (fractint) Fractal art FAQ
>Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:00:45 +0100
>
>Hi all,
>
>The draft for a future fractal art FAQ can be found at
>http://www-hs.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr/f-art-faq/
>The first page is self-explaining (read it carefully) but I wish to
>emphasize two or three points.
>First the obvious place to discuss about its final version is the fractal
>art discussion list and, for some specialized topics, the fractint list or
>the ultra fractal one.
>In all the cases I ask you to cross-post to
>[e-mail]
>to help me in the task of archiving your contributions which are hoped to
>be
>numerous (please, use also this address for private discussions about this
>project).
>This will be done in an automatic way if you click on any of the mailto
>links which are in the first page of the FAQ.
>You will see that the section relative to technical questions about the
>most
>used programs is empty. Many of you are more experienced than me to
>contribute to this part.
>And I hope sincerely that you will not agree with all the questions/answers
>that I offer to your criticism.
>You are all welcome to contribute. It is not _my_ FAQ, it is only my draft
>for a future FAQ.
>Thank you in advance.
>
>J.P. Louvet
>
>
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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:37:10 +1300
From: Steve Wray <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Hi there, off topic, sort of... number theory anyone?

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone on this list is particularly knowledgeable
about number theory. I have a small problem that I'd like to get an
opinion on.

Cheers!

(Just reply to me not the list to save this going waaaaay off topic!)



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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:10:55 +0100
From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal art FAQ

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Fractales sur serveur Web Universite Bordeaux I :
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Eleanor Adika" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal art FAQ


> Hi
>
> Only the suggested tipics were available - and the title - table of
> contents.  Is there more?
>
Yes, click on TABLE OF CONTENTS at the bottom of the page!


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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:41:04 +0100
From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal art FAQ

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Eleanor Adika" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal art FAQ


> Hi
>
> Only the suggested tipics were available - and the title - table of
> contents.  Is there more?

There is some garbage in my previous reply. I send it again:

Yes, click on TABLE OF CONTENTS at the bottom of the page and, in the table
of content, on any topic listed.




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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:35:54 -0500
From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) [e-mail]

    1.  The number of individuals in your household =

        that create fractals.

        1

    2.  The number and names of fractal generating =

        programs used by each of these individuals.

        Fractint =


    3.  Which fractal program is considered as the =

        best or most used by each of these individuals.

        Fractint best for fractal exploration
        Ultra Fractal best for artistic expression

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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 08:33:10 -0800
From: Judy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) REQ:  Fractal Census 2000


>     1.  The number of individuals in your household
>         that create fractals.
 one

>     2.  The number and names of fractal generating
>         programs used by each of these individuals.

one Fractint

>     3.  Which fractal program is considered as the
>         best or most used by each of these individuals.

Fractint

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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 13:53:15 -0500
From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) [e-mail]

Sorry to post the previous message to this list.  I accidently put the
reply address in the "subject" instead of the "to" field.

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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:09:30 -0600
From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) U.S. Government Fractal Census 2000 questionnaire

"Paul N. Lee" wrote:
>
> Greetings Fractal Community,
>
> If you would be so kind, I would like to impose upon everyone to take a
> moment and please supply some information:
>
>     1.  The number of individuals in your household
>         that create fractals.
>
>     2.  The number and names of fractal generating
>         programs used by each of these individuals.
>
>     3.  Which fractal program is considered as the
>         best or most used by each of these individuals.
>


Just today I received the following official U.S. Government Fractal Census
2000 questionnaire in the mail. Unfortunately, I received the long form, which
is some 116 pages with 2,104 questions. Here are some of those questions:

How many rooms inside your house or apartment, and in how many do you create
fractal art?

How much of your reported income to the IRS last year did you spend on fractal
programs? How much have you spent the last five years?

How much of your annual income is derived from selling fractal art? Have you
reported that income to the IRS? Do you want us to report it to them for you?

Do you design fractal art in the a.m. or p.m.? How many hours do you spend on
that activity?

How many yards or feet do you have to walk inside your house or apartment to
get to your fractal art designing station? Do you receive a shoe allowance to
walk that distance? If so, how much do you receive?

Name those who assist you in designing fractal art. Do they share or rent the
apartment or house facilities with you? Do any of them hold green cards? If
they don't have green cards, are they supposed to have them? Are any of them of
Japanese descent? If so, give us their names so we can report them to the
Defense Department and send them on the next train to internment camps.

Do you use a PC, Macintosh, or UNIX computer to design fractal art? How much
did you spend to purchase the computer, monitor and fractal software?

How much money have you spent in the past five years on equipment for fractal
art? Was the money spent on your fractal art hobby supposed to go toward buying
food and clothing for your children? Have you been neglecting your children
while you've been designing fractal artwork?

Where did you live five years ago? Were you designing fractal artwork at that
time?

How much money do you spend annually on electricity to power your computer and
monitor for the sake of your fractal art hobby?

Are you or any person assisting you in designing your fractal art work
suffering any disabilities? If so, name the disabilities.

Do you or those assisting you have problems in learning your fractal programs,
remembering tutorial instructions, or concentrating during your fractal art
creative process?

Were you or any members of your household designing fractal artwork when they
should have been serving on active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces, military
Reserves, or National Guard? If so, are they considered AWOL?

How much schooling did you receive before you took up fractal art?

What is your marital status? If divorced or separated, was this caused by the
amount of time you spent on your fractal art hobby?

Do you create fractal artwork at your place of employment? Is your place of
employment a business or an industry? How many hours are you employed daily?
How much of that time is spent on designing fractal artwork? Did this lead to a
promotion or a demotion for you?

- -------------

We, the U.S. Government Fractal Census 2000 board, promise to respect your
privacy and not share the information you provided with any militia groups or
religious cults. The U.S. Government? Now that's another matter. Remember, Big
Benoit is watching you.

- -------------

Regards,

Bob Margolis

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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:22:03 -0500
From: Tom Conally <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) U.S. Government Fractal Census 2000 questionnaire

Good one!  LOL

At 02:09 PM 03/18/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>"Paul N. Lee" wrote:
>>
>> Greetings Fractal Community,
>>
>> If you would be so kind, I would like to impose upon everyone to take a
>> moment and please supply some information:
>>
>>     1.  The number of individuals in your household
>>         that create fractals.


Tom Conally
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Your life, Grasshopper, is to practice  till you find that throw
and become one with that boomerang!
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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 17:12:36 -0500
From: Harry Bissell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) U.S. Government Fractal Census 2000 questionnaire

Hi Bob

LOL !!!

H^)  harry (a mostly lurker...)

Bob Margolis wrote:

> "Paul N. Lee" wrote:
> >
> > Greetings Fractal Community,
> >
> > If you would be so kind, I would like to impose upon everyone to take a
> > moment and please supply some information:
> >
> >     1.  The number of individuals in your household
> >         that create fractals.
> >
> >     2.  The number and names of fractal generating
> >         programs used by each of these individuals.
> >
> >     3.  Which fractal program is considered as the
> >         best or most used by each of these individuals.
> >
>
> Just today I received the following official U.S. Government Fractal Census
> 2000 questionnaire in the mail. Unfortunately, I received the long form, which
> is some 116 pages with 2,104 questions. Here are some of those questions:
>
> How many rooms inside your house or apartment, and in how many do you create
> fractal art?
>
> How much of your reported income to the IRS last year did you spend on fractal
> programs? How much have you spent the last five years?
>
> How much of your annual income is derived from selling fractal art? Have you
> reported that income to the IRS? Do you want us to report it to them for you?
>
> Do you design fractal art in the a.m. or p.m.? How many hours do you spend on
> that activity?
>
> How many yards or feet do you have to walk inside your house or apartment to
> get to your fractal art designing station? Do you receive a shoe allowance to
> walk that distance? If so, how much do you receive?
>
> Name those who assist you in designing fractal art. Do they share or rent the
> apartment or house facilities with you? Do any of them hold green cards? If
> they don't have green cards, are they supposed to have them? Are any of them of
> Japanese descent? If so, give us their names so we can report them to the
> Defense Department and send them on the next train to internment camps.
>
> Do you use a PC, Macintosh, or UNIX computer to design fractal art? How much
> did you spend to purchase the computer, monitor and fractal software?
>
> How much money have you spent in the past five years on equipment for fractal
> art? Was the money spent on your fractal art hobby supposed to go toward buying
> food and clothing for your children? Have you been neglecting your children
> while you've been designing fractal artwork?
>
> Where did you live five years ago? Were you designing fractal artwork at that
> time?
>
> How much money do you spend annually on electricity to power your computer and
> monitor for the sake of your fractal art hobby?
>
> Are you or any person assisting you in designing your fractal art work
> suffering any disabilities? If so, name the disabilities.
>
> Do you or those assisting you have problems in learning your fractal programs,
> remembering tutorial instructions, or concentrating during your fractal art
> creative process?
>
> Were you or any members of your household designing fractal artwork when they
> should have been serving on active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces, military
> Reserves, or National Guard? If so, are they considered AWOL?
>
> How much schooling did you receive before you took up fractal art?
>
> What is your marital status? If divorced or separated, was this caused by the
> amount of time you spent on your fractal art hobby?
>
> Do you create fractal artwork at your place of employment? Is your place of
> employment a business or an industry? How many hours are you employed daily?
> How much of that time is spent on designing fractal artwork? Did this lead to a
> promotion or a demotion for you?
>
> -------------
>
> We, the U.S. Government Fractal Census 2000 board, promise to respect your
> privacy and not share the information you provided with any militia groups or
> religious cults. The U.S. Government? Now that's another matter. Remember, Big
> Benoit is watching you.
>
> -------------
>
> Regards,
>
> Bob Margolis
>
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