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fractint-digest        Saturday, March 11 2000        Volume 01 : Number 453




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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 15:19:01 +0100
From: Guy Marson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Just a FEW more L-systems... 3/6

Hi

Super .l-file! I'm now running every (.par) file manually. I need a version
of PARTOBAT.exe running in a DOS-Window under Win98 .. My old version 3.3
don't run under Win98.. Is there a version of PARTOBAT.exe working well
into a DOS-Window?

cheers,

Guy



At 10:40 20/02/00 GET, you wrote:
>ADH120a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-f+f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+gg-f+g-gg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ; Sierpinski variation...
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+fg-f+g-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-g+g-f
>  }
>
>ADH120e { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-f+g-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120f { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-f+f-gf-f
>  }
>
>ADH120h { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-f+f-ff-g
>  }
>
>ADH120i { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f
>  f=g+ff-g+f-ff-g
>  }
>
>ADH120j { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f+gf-g+f-gf-g
>  }
>
>ADH120k { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-g+g-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120l { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+gg-f+f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120o { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=+ff-f+ff-f-f
>  }
>
>ADH120p { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f+fff-f+f-fff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120q { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f+ff-f+f-f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120r { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f+ff-f-f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120s { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=ff-f+f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120t { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-f+f-ff
>  }
>
>ADH120u { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=ff-f+f-ff+
>  }
>
>ADH120v { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=ff+ff-f+f-ff-ff
>  }
>
>ADH120x { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-ff-f+f+ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120y { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=-ff-f+f-ff+f
>  }
>
>ADH120z { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f+[gg+f]+g-
>  }
>
>ADH120zb { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff+f-[f+f]f+f
>  }
>
>ADH120zd { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=fg-f+gf-
>  }
>
>ADH120ze { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-f-f+ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zf { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-[f+f]+ff+f
>  }
>
>ADH120zg { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>
>
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=[f-ff]-f+f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zh { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-gg-f+g-gg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zi { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-[gfg]-g+f-gg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zj { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=g-fg-g-gg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zm { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-ff-f+f-[gf-f]
>  }
>
>ADH120zn { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-g[f-g+f]-gg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zo { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-gg+f-ff-g
>  }
>
>ADH120zp { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=g-ff-g+f-ff-g
>  }
>
>ADH120zq { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=g-ff-g+f-ff-g
>  }
>
>ADH120zr { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f-gf-g+f-gg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zs { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f-gg-f+g-gf-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zt { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=g-ff-g+g-ff-g
>  }
>
>ADH120zx { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-fg-f+g+g-fg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zy { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f-ff-f-f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zz { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=ff+f+g-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zza { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-ff-f+f-ff
>  }
>
>ADH120zzb { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=fg+f+g-fg+
>  }
>
>ADH120zze { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f-fg+f+f+gf-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zzf { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=-fg+f+g-fg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zzg { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f+ff-f+f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zzh { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=+ff-f-f-ff+f
>  }
>
>ADH120zzi { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-ff+f-f+ff+f
>  }
>
>ADH120zzj { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=+ff-f-f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zzl { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+gg+f-g+fg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zzm { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+fg+f+f+gg+f
>  }
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:18:57 -0600
From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Change to Iterates.TGA at Frain200?

Jason,

The targa file output is broken in version 20.0.  It has been fixed in the
developer's version.  At least, as far as I can tell.  I don't use this
feature, so I'm sure I haven't tested everything.  The newest version is
20.0.8 and it can be found at http://www.fractint.org.  The file you want is
FRADEV.ZIP.

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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:54:07 -0500
From: "James R. McKenzie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint 20.0.8

When I try to get fractint Developer's Version 20.0.8 I end up with 20.0.6
Developer's Version.  Is this the same thing each as the other.  I'm getting
from ftp://ftp.fractint.org .  As far as I know I'm doing it right.  Please
respond ASAP.




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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:18:57 -0600
From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Change to Iterates.TGA at Frain200?

Jason,

The targa file output is broken in version 20.0.  It has been fixed in the
developer's version.  At least, as far as I can tell.  I don't use this
feature, so I'm sure I haven't tested everything.  The newest version is
20.0.8 and it can be found at http://www.fractint.org.  The file you want is
FRADEV.ZIP.

Jonathan



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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 23:15:34 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Spanky Fractal Database

Greetings folks,

I've coordinated with Noel Giffin and have been able to set up a mirror of
the Spanky Fractal Database:

    http://spanky.fractint.org/

This has exactly the same content as the primary Spanky web site:

    http://spanky.triumf.ca/

Or at least, it's supposed to. If you notice glaring problems with the
spanky.fractint.org mirror, let me know, and I can look into it.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  Fractalus Galleries & Info:
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or
in a newsgroup.  Thank you.


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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 01:28:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 09-03-00 (Star-Struck Midget [6]) (c)

FOTD -- March 09, 2000  (Rating 6)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Today's fractal was created by the formula 1/Z-Z+C -- a formula
that obviously can produce nothing of interest in the way of
fractals.  But being unaware of the hopeless situation, I went
ahead with this simple formula and found a fractal.  The fractal
I found rates a six, which is a little above average on my 0 to
10 fractal rating scale.  I named the picture "Star-Struck
Midget" when I noticed the gold star.

It's a rather striking image of the obligatory midget surrounded
by a golden star on a sky-blue background.  The scene may be
viewed by running the parameter file or by downloading the image
from Usenet at:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

The image should also be available on Paul Lee's Web site at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

If the picture is not yet on the web site, be patient.  Paul is
busy and sometimes falls a few days behind.

The fractal weather was like summer today, with hot sun and a
temperature of 84F (29C), which was actually a bit too warm for
the fractal cats.

To experience a night's rest, I must now close down the fractal
shoppe for another day.  Until next time, take care, and get in
the fractal spirit.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

Star-Struck_Midget { ; time=0:08:21.42 SF5 on a P200
                     ;  Version 2000 Patchlevel 8
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
  formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1
  center-mag=+0.00027125681534432/-2.81244121931896100\
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  zzhzzgbzc<2>fzkgzmjzo<2>mzwozznzz
  }

frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 01:09:58 -0600
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: FOTD, 09-03-00 (Star_Struck Midget [6]) (c)

Jim Muth wrote:
>
> The image should also be available on Paul Lee's Web site at:
>        <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
> If the picture is not yet on the web site, be patient.  Paul is
> busy and sometimes falls a few days behind.
>

Sorry about some recent delays, but had to make a couple of trips to
Minnesota to setup a new LAN at one of our offices and then tie it to
our WAN with the new T1 connection.  Had problems configuring the
CSU/DSU and Router, and setting up the print servers so the UNIX system
and NT Server both recognized them on the Network.

I should be keeping close to home base for awhile, so no more delays in
the foreseeable future.

P.N.L.
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Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 22:49:14 -0600
From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 20.0.8

James asked:

> When I try to get fractint Developer's Version 20.0.8 I end up with 20.0.6
> Developer's Version.  Is this the same thing each as the other.  I'm getting
> from ftp://ftp.fractint.org .  As far as I know I'm doing it right.  Please
> respond ASAP.

I just downloaded

ftp://ftp.fractint.org/fradev.zip

and it does indeed contain 20.0.8. Thgis is *not* the same thing as
20.0.6. The version is reported on the opening screen.

Are you using a web browser to do the FTP transfer? This is a shot
in the dark, but maybe you have fradev.zip in your browser cache
and you are not really re-uploading it. If so, try the reload button.
Jonathan has suggested that I should encode the version in the file
name - then there would be no ambiguity. I'll do that.

The only other thing I can think of is maybe you aren't running the
fractint.exe that you think you are.

Tim


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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:41:32 GET
From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) What's our population?

Hi,
I've been meaning to ask for a long time now, what's the number of
subscribers to this conference?  Is it relatively static at the moment, or
are the numbers changing in either direction?

Tony Hanmer
Tbilisi, Georgia
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:42:46 GET
From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) What's our population?

Hi,
I've been meaning to ask for a long time now, what's the number of
subscribers to this conference?  Is it relatively static at the moment, or
are the numbers changing in either direction?

Tony Hanmer
Tbilisi, Georgia
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:14:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 10-03-00 (Crop-Top Midget [6]) (c)

FOTD -- March 10, 2000  (Rating 6)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

The familiar Mandelbrot set is simply connected.  That is, all
its features are connected to the main body by an infinitesi-
mally thin filament.  To put it more poetically, all the baby
Mandelbrot ponds are connected to the main bay by a thin stream
of water.  Though the shoreline of the M-set is infinite, it is
a single shoreline.

But not all fractals are connected.  The curious fractal created
by the formula Z^(-0.5)-Z^5+C is not connected.  In this fractal
the main bay is surrounded by countless cut-off midget lakes.
Today's fractal illustrates one of these cut-off lakes.  I could
have named the picture "Cut-Off Midget" but I decided on
"Crop-Top Midget", a name that raises a few more eyebrows.

It's a pleasant turquoise and lilac midget, easy on the eyes --
a picture that could give a soothing touch to a dentist's
waiting room.  I find it far more relaxing to observe the image
on the screen however.

Since the parameter file requires over 1/2 hour on a modest
Pentium, I advise picking up the JPEG'd image file from the
Usenet binary newsgroup:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

The image is also to be found on Paul Lee's Web site at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather today was partly cloudy and continued
unusually warm, with a small shower in early afternoon.  The
temperature of 78F (25.5C) was just right for the fractal cats,
who spent several hours on the porch once the rain stopped.

Unfortunately, it's now time for me to stop writing, and to shut
down the fractal factory for another day.  The next time will be
in under 24 hours.  Until then, take care, and live and breathe
fractals.


Jim Muth
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START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:11:05 GET
From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Tracing L-systems

Hi,
Now that we have the possibility of making L-systems huge in Fractint at
last, I have another question:
Is there any programme which can output L-systems not as bitmaps but as
vector files?  After all, all they are is collections of straight lines.
Vector output would make the resulting file independent of size for
resolution.

Tony Hanmer
Tbilisi, Georgia
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:25:14 -0500
From: Barry N Merenoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Tracing L-systems

Actually, a vector file would be just as dependent on resolution
as a bitmap file. Neither is a true fractal above a critical magnificatio=
n.
The only advantage to a vector file would be that at a smaller
magnification it wouldn't be aliased. But you could get the same
effect by shrinking a bitmap in a resampling program.

Sincerely,
        Collin Merenoff

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Date: 10 Mar 00 19:59:24 CST
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [(fractint) What's our population?]

I just joined yesterday, and majordomo listed 304 subscribers to this lis=
t
after my induction.

Eric
>>"Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]> wrote:
Hi, I've been meaning to ask for a long time now, what's the number of =

subscribers to this conference?  Is it relatively static at the moment, o=
r =

are the numbers changing in either direction?

Tony Hanmer
Tbilisi, Georgia
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 01:47:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 11-03-00 (One Haggard Midget [4]) (c)

FOTD -- March 11, 2000 (Rating 4)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Another day, another midget.  I'm really becoming obsessed with
these midgets.  Maybe I'll declare April 'no-midget' month and
'no-MandelbrotMix4' month.  Then I'll be able to spend the month
searching new pastures for new types of fractals.  I really need
to be writing some more test formulas.  The M-Mix4 formula makes
things too easy.  Before I found this formula, I wrote at least
one or two test formulas every day.

The formula behind today's image is Z^(-1.5)-3(sqrt(Z))+C.  The
parent fractal is a delicate lacework of scattered bits and
pieces, with but few solid areas.  Today's midget appears deep
in a spiral in one of these solid areas.  The rough appearance
belies the delicateness of its parent fractal.  I named the
picture "One Haggard Midget" as a description more than anything
else.

At 13 minutes on a Pentium, the parameter file is a bit too slow
for comfort.  To ease impatience, the image has been posted to
the Usenet binary newsgroup:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

ant to Paul Lee's web site at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather today was once again quite mild.  The hazy
sun and temperature of 68F (20C) were perfect for the fractal
cats, who spent most of the afternoon stretched in their padded
chairs on the porch.

The fractal philosophy is still brewing.  So be patient fans of
wisdom -- the enlightenment will soon be posted.

Until next time, which is 24 hours from now, take care, and
isn't it frustrating to know you're right yet be unable to
convince anyone else of the fact?


Jim Muth
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 21:23:36 GET
From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing L-systems

>Actually, a vector file would be just as dependent on resolution
>as a bitmap file. Neither is a true fractal above a critical magnification.
>The only advantage to a vector file would be that at a smaller
>magnification it wouldn't be aliased. But you could get the same
>effect by shrinking a bitmap in a resampling program.

...But surely, with L-systems, which are actually made of lines (and not
pixels), a vector output would capture the thing literally perfectly,
whereas a bitmap must approximate...?

Tony Hanmer
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:39:02 -0500
From: Harry Bissell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing L-systems

By the time it gets to the screen.... everything is a bitmap....
or even a printer...
Only a vector plotter would give "true" results... and even that (driven by
stepper motors)
is really a "bitmap"

H^)   harry  (one who lurks most times...)

"Tony (Anthony) Hanmer" wrote:

> >Actually, a vector file would be just as dependent on resolution
> >as a bitmap file. Neither is a true fractal above a critical magnification.
> >The only advantage to a vector file would be that at a smaller
> >magnification it wouldn't be aliased. But you could get the same
> >effect by shrinking a bitmap in a resampling program.
>
> ...But surely, with L-systems, which are actually made of lines (and not
> pixels), a vector output would capture the thing literally perfectly,
> whereas a bitmap must approximate...?
>
> Tony Hanmer
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 14:56:41 -0600
From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What's our population?

Tony asked:

> Hi,
> I've been meaning to ask for a long time now, what's the number of
> subscribers to this conference?  Is it relatively static at the moment, or
> are the numbers changing in either direction?

We are currently at 304. It has been higher, but I would say it is
static. There are constantly people leaving and joining the list.

Tim


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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:30:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Jon Noring <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Reintroduction and Apology

Hello,

It's been quite a while since I have been in touch with the fractal art
community, having essentially dropped out about a year and a half ago to
pursue an e-book business.  I will continue to work my e-book business
heavily, until either success or failure, and thus will not be actively
involved in any way with fractal art until then.  However, I will devote
a little time here and there to at least monitor what's happening, maybe
even play with Fractint a few hours a month.  I'll follow up this e-mail
with a couple more messages asking some questions so I can come up to speed
on where things currently stand.

Now for my apology.

Back in November my friend Lee Skinner got the following e-mail.  I've
removed the sender's name but it does show my sudden disappearance may have
caused difficulties with many of you, for reasons I'll explain below.  I
do humbly apologize to everybody involved.  I did not handle this properly.


>Lee, are you still in touch with Jon Noring? I was pretty angry, because
>about 2 years ago he asked several of us for our "50 best Fractint pars",
>claiming he was going to represent us. People like myself were too new
>and innocent to question this. After he got pars from folks like myself
>and Linda Allison, he completely disappeared and ceased answering emails.
>I always assumed that he'd stolen the pars to print for his own profit. I
>could still kick myself, because I gave him the pars to many of my
>all-time best fractals, fractals that are being published now.


Here's my e-mail reply directly to this person back in late November:
****************************************************************************

I do humbly apologize for my "disappearance," and for not informing those I
*non-exclusively* represented that, in essence, I put the project on long-
term hold, and likely won't resurrect it.  It is a good idea, but it requires
someone with both the time and resources to promote it.  I found I lacked
both.

And the last year I have been extremely busy.  In the middle of last year I
found a partner to build a business around my first "love", e-books
(electronic books).  Since then, it's been a very intense time, developing a
business plan, hustling trying to secure venture capital funding.  We are
very close to securing about $XX million in final funding (of course, one
never knows for sure until the money is in the bank, as we have twice learned
this year already -- the *hard* way.)

Suffice to say I've been very busy.  I don't even have Fractint installed on
my computer -- I don't even know what version Fractint is at now.  Is the new
Fractint 32-bit?  I was surprised to hear Lee tell me tonight on the phone
about a new fractal engine called "UltraFractal", which maybe I'll check on
sometime in 2002 when I have a breather.  :^)

Regarding your pars, I have not made any prints of them -- I don't even
recall making any high-res images from them.  I don't even know where your
pars are.  I do believe they are on a burned CD-ROM, encrypted in a ZIP file
and only I know the password, if I can remember it.  If I die, nobody will
even be able to read them without breaking the encryption.  I have kept to
my contractual obligation to you and to everybody else not to reveal them to
anyone, nor to make prints or transparencies of them for sale without your
contractual agreement as to the terms.

Again, I apologize to everybody involved for my disappearance.  It was very
tacky, I know.

And do feel free to post this reply to Fractal-Art if it still is active.  I
haven't been subscribed to that mailing list for well over a year, even
though I was the one who created it.

Your pars (and those of everyone else) are safe, and they will never be
revealed, nor ever used at any time in the future without your express
permission.  I do appreciate your sharing them with me -- I recall you had
many wonderful fractal images, and I hope that the last year you have been
successful in selling prints of them, and making lots of people happy (and
make a few dollars as well.)

I have thought that if my e-book business is successful (yes, it is a long-
shot, to be realistic), that I'd have the resources to build a fractal art
museum/gallery displaying only the nicest fractal images printed at museum
quality at very high resolution (probably Ilfochrome prints).  I'd be happy
to have some of your images represented in the gallery.  But it will be a
while before this dream will become a reality, if ever.  So maybe you will
hear from me in 2-3 years.  :^)

****************************************************************************


Anyway, hopefully this will further explain my absence, and my apologies to
everybody I worked with "behind-the-scenes" a couple years ago.  If I do pick
up the fractal art business again, I will run it differently and will put my
own resources behind it to make it really work.  I have several new ideas
(some of them obtained from working to build a large business) which will
directly transfer to fractal art promotion and sales, to the direct benefit
of fractal artists everywhere.

I look forward to seeing everybody around in Fractal-Land.  :^)

Jon Noring


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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:54:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Jon Noring <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) A question on UltraFractal and Fractint

Hello,

In trying to update myself of what's happening in the fractal art world,
I've noticed that last year a new fractal generator was introduced:
UltraFractal.

I downloaded it today to try it out, and have been working on comparing
it with Fractint (version 19.6 -- haven't tried 20.0 yet).

I like its interface a lot, and I see many ideas in it that could be
incorporated into the 32-bit GUI-based Fractint I've been hoping to see
for quite a while (the old Windows 3.1 port of Fractint is NOT what I
had in mind.)  (Now there's rumbling of 64-bit operating systems.  :^) )

First question is the obvious one -- how do they each compare feature-wise;
what are their relative strengths and weaknesses?

My second question revolves around difficulties I am having in getting
UltraFractal to read many of the Fractint formulas I have in my collection.
Simply, UltraFractal won't read them without giving an error message.  And
for many when UltraFractal does read them, it generates a fractal image
partway and then stops.  Do Fractint formulas have to be formatted in a
certain way?  Are there certain Fractint formula features and settings that
UltraFractal won't recognize?

Anyway, that's enough in this message.  I have one more to follow regarding
fractal art prints.

Thanks.

Jon Noring


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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 20:20:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Jon Noring <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) A question on museum-quality fractal art prints

Hello,

As many of the old-timers know, 2-3 years ago I was looking into how to
produce the highest quality prints from fractal images.  At the time, I
settled upon making 8x10 color transparencies using a Kodak LVT, which
directly prints onto the film at 2032 dpi (res80).  Then the transparency
can be used in a commercial photo-enlarger to make reversal prints, either
Ilfochrome (the old Cibachrome which has breathtaking color), or other
reversal prints such as Fuji's which is very good.  The image size I
generated for the Kodak LVT was 18432x13824, which is an 18x18 array of
1024x768 images (using Fractint's "Divide and Conquer").  Several in the
fractal community have had me help them make Kodak LVT transparencies of
fractal images and hopefully they will comment.

The advantage of this compared to ink on paper processes (such as the
"Giclee'"...Iris inkjet) was greater color gamut, better approximating RGB
color space (inks just cannot reproduce saturated colors very well), higher
resolution, longer display life measured in decades (Ilfochrome, for example,
is highly resistant to fading), and fairly low cost when a large number are
made at one time (in an enlarger, once setup, one can run through a lot of
prints in a short amount of time, while on an Iris, each one takes some
time which does not allow substantial discounts for large quantities.)  Of
course, the Iris and related inkjets have their advantages, most notably
the ability to render the image on a plethora of different papers.

O.k., that was two years ago and I have not been keeping abreast of recent
developments.  I do know that direct to photographic print paper processes
have recently become more commonplace, including the Durst Lambda and the
LightJet.  In these devices, the digital image is transferred directly to a
photograph print using RGB lasers, bypassing any photographic process.  In
terms of quality (color accuracy) these will have the 8x10 transparency -->
print from enlargement beat by a mile since the process can be precisely
calibrated to a particular photographic paper for all colors, so it is
possible to render RGB color gamut much more closely than with photographic
enlargement using a fixed white light source.

Anyway, with that introduction, I'd like to hear what the current state-of-
the-art is.  Are most here who produce high quality prints using Iris and
similar commercial inkjets?  Have they finally developed very bright and
saturated inks that also have a long life and high resistance to fading?  Is
anybody here using a Durst Lambda and/or LightJet to make prints of fractal
images?

I look forward to any comments on this topic.

Thanks.

Jon Noring


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