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fractint-digest        Monday, November 8 1999        Volume 01 : Number 422




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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 04:37:00 -0300
From: "Alejandro Gustavo Kainer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Handleiding FractInt

Dear Theo,

I missed the meaning of "afstuderen"... but the rest I think I got it... :))

@le


- -----Mensaje original-----
De: Theo Bakker <[e-mail]>
Para: Fractint <[e-mail]>
Fecha: Jueves 4 de Noviembre de 1999 17:33
Asunto: (fractint) Handleiding FractInt


Hier nogmaals een mailtje uit Lisse.
In het kader van m'n "afstuderen" (wiskunde 1e grd) heb ik een
nederlandstalige handleiding geschreven bij Fractint (19.6).
Het is in word-formaat, 42 pagina's, met 2 appendices in de vorm van
Maple worksheets (.mws).
Wil je 'm hebben, stuur dan even een mailtje naar me toe.

Groetjes,

Theo.
- --
Theo Bakker                     [e-mail]
H. Roland Holstlaan 29          UIN 8400214 (ICQ)
2162 JE Lisse
0252-413775

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 00:10:15 +0100
From: "J.P. Louvet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Contest 99 : my entries and votes

I have made a web page with my 3 entries and my personal votes compared with
the final results. There are thumbnails of every images. Links are
restricted to my entries but each thumbnails will be linked to the
corresponding pages when the contest site is updated.
This page must be considered as a draft. That is why it has no link to my
other pages at the moment. The names of many artists lack, the HTML syntax
has not been carefully checked.
Owing to the number of thumbnails the page might take a long time to be
downloaded. Perhaps it is necessary to break it into several smaller pages.

Feedback is welcome. Thanks.

http://www-hs.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr/louvet/contest99.html

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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 05:30:41 -0300
From: "Alejandro Gustavo Kainer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Contest 99 : my entries and votes

Well, if the page takes its time to download, I didn't notice it. BUT I took
the time, anyway. I'm running a (poor me) 486 DX4, 100 MHz, and a 56K modem
that at this time is running at the terrible speed of 45333 bps (fasten your
belts, please). It took almost 5 minutes to download the page in my browser,
but the view is magnificent. I couldn't manage (or even afford) to download
the entire contest, so I missed this voting (maybe next one I'll be better
equipped), so I took a look at Damien's site just to see what it looked
like, and the images delighted me. And now you're presenting them in a way I
liked a lot together with your own judgement, so I can see both of them. All
I can say is "simply marvelous", and I'm still amazed at all the inventive
and imagination that people have.

To the list: bookmark this page. It's worth it.

@le

PS: Jupiter and Io gave me the chills... It was like Samuel was there! And I
kept remembering 2001, a space odyssey...

- -----Mensaje original-----
De: J.P. Louvet <[e-mail]>
Para: Fractint list <[e-mail]>;
[e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Fecha: Jueves 4 de Noviembre de 1999 20:11
Asunto: (fractint) Contest 99 : my entries and votes


I have made a web page with my 3 entries and my personal votes compared with
the final results. There are thumbnails of every images. Links are
restricted to my entries but each thumbnails will be linked to the
corresponding pages when the contest site is updated.
This page must be considered as a draft. That is why it has no link to my
other pages at the moment. The names of many artists lack, the HTML syntax
has not been carefully checked.
Owing to the number of thumbnails the page might take a long time to be
downloaded. Perhaps it is necessary to break it into several smaller pages.

Feedback is welcome. Thanks.

http://www-hs.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr/louvet/contest99.html

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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:22:35 -0800
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest 99 : my entries and votes

JP....

Very well laid out page.  I looked at it here in California at 4:20PM my time and had
no problems with downloading on my 56.6 connection.  I often have trouble with
european servers but yours seems to do great and everything came in very quickly.

I very much enjoyed how you compared your votes with the winners.  I've been wanting
to see all of the winning entries in one place.

angela aka wizzle

"J.P. Louvet" wrote:
>
> I have made a web page with my 3 entries and my personal votes compared with
> the final results. There are thumbnails of every images. Links are
> restricted to my entries but each thumbnails will be linked to the
> corresponding pages when the contest site is updated.
> This page must be considered as a draft. That is why it has no link to my
> other pages at the moment. The names of many artists lack, the HTML syntax
> has not been carefully checked.
> Owing to the number of thumbnails the page might take a long time to be
> downloaded. Perhaps it is necessary to break it into several smaller pages.
>
> Feedback is welcome. Thanks.
>
> http://www-hs.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr/louvet/contest99.html
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:25:12 -0800
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint Updates

I've updated my web page with fractint images that previously I'd not posted or
shared on the list.  They are available at

http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/favorites/more/more_favs.html

The large versions are fractint gifs with all the info in tact for further
exploration.

Happy fractaling

angela aka wizzle

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:40:18 EST
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Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Updates

  Most beautiful. Bravo!!

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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 09:55:42 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest 99 : my entries and votes

On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:22:35 -0800, "Angela Wilczynski"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>I very much enjoyed how you compared your votes with the winners.  I've =
been wanting
>to see all of the winning entries in one place. =20
>
>angela aka wizzle
>
O.K. I cheated in that regard. I went back to the voting page and
filled in the winning entries so I could see them all in the same
place. Now if I could just find my cheat sheet on what I voted for. I
think after all the time I spent on choosing, I may find it easy to
recreate them.

juice --have fun --harm none

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:33:42 +0100
From: "Jacco Burger" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Handleiding FractInt

'Afstuderen'  means to graduate.
Here is a full translation (sort of...)  :

>>>Here is another email from Lisse. I wrote a Dutch manual for
Fractint (19.6) as part of my graduation (Mathematics MSc). It is a
Word-file, 42 pages, with 2 appendices containing 2 Maple worksheets
(.wms). Send me an email if you would like to have it.

Greetings
Theo.

Theo Bakker                     [e-mail]
H. Roland Holstlaan 29          UIN 8400214 (ICQ)
2162 JE Lisse
0252-413775  <<<

Cheers,
Jacco
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Jacco's Fractal Kitchen:
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- -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Alejandro Gustavo Kainer <[e-mail]>
Aan: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Datum: vrijdag 5 november 1999 0:09
Onderwerp: RE: (fractint) Handleiding FractInt


>Dear Theo,
>
>I missed the meaning of "afstuderen"... but the rest I think I got
it... :))
>
>@le
>
>
>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: Theo Bakker <[e-mail]>
>Para: Fractint <[e-mail]>
>Fecha: Jueves 4 de Noviembre de 1999 17:33
>Asunto: (fractint) Handleiding FractInt
>
>
>Hier nogmaals een mailtje uit Lisse.

(snip)



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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:38:16 -0800
From: "Bruce Nepple" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) AWE64 Sound Problem

I assume I'm overlooking something obvious, but I just cannot get sound to
work on my AWE64 at home.  I tried loading the blaster dos drivers in
config.sys, double checked all the blaster settings (d1 H5 A220, etc) and
they agree with what the win95 system stuff says.  I have not found any
settings within fractint other than the ctrl-f f6 f7 stuff.  My DOS games
work fine, but they have settings within the game.  Any ideas?

Bruce


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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 21:12:04 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Best fractal program for various things

Michael,

A belated reply as I'm trying to get net access from my new home in Orlando...

 - Thanks an awfull lot for this great and inspiring work you did with this
 - contest /these contests by now.

Well it has been a lot of work, certainly... and definitely a lot learned.
But what made it great was the variety of submissions and the number of
other people who volunteered their time and effort to make the contest
work. Not everything went smoothly, but hopefully it's been a net plus for
the fractal community.

 - Is there any simple listing which fractal program is best suited for
 - what? I only use fractint and haven't discovered half of it, I guess
 - (RTFM, I know).

No, there really isn't such a listing, because sometimes it just boils down
to a matter of preference. The following should be taking as an exhaustive
list of plusses and minuses. :-)

FractInt's strengths are its versatility ("escape-time" fractals, IFSs,
L-systems, strange attractors, 3D transformations, even cellular automota),
its extensive user-written formula collection (OrgFrm), its comprehensive
online help, its price (free), and that the source code is available. Its
limitations are no real true color support and its DOS interface, two
things that are being worked on. It is faster than many programs, too.

Tiera-Zon, Flarium, GrafZViZion, SterlingWare, etc. (maybe we should just
call them the Ferguson programs) are also free, with source code available.
Their strengths are true-color support, a wide array of coloring options,
and in some of the programs, images that are almost impossible to produce
with other software. Almost all of the programs run in Windows. Their
weaknesses are little documentation and tricky color control.

Ultra Fractal's strengths are its true-color support, its ability to read
many FractInt PAR files and most formula files, its large collection of its
own formulas, the ability to do layering, its speed (faster than most
everything else), and its organized Windows interface. Its major drawbacks
are that the source code to the main program is not available (although the
code for all the fractal formulas *is*) and that it is not free (it is a
$35 Shareware product).

Fractal eXtreme's strengths are its speed (fastest fractal generator
around), its Windows interface, and its plug-in architecture that allows
additional fast fractal code to be added by any programmer. Its weaknesses
are that its source code is not available, that it is not free (it is a $35
Shareware product), and that it is limited to 256-color images.

Terry Gintz's software bears mentioning as well. Dofo-Zon uses a plug-in
architecture that shares many common modules with Steve Ferguson's
programs. It reads FractInt PARs and FRMs, and has extensive support for
hypercomplex and quaternion fractal types, which are often neglected in
other programs. It is free.

FraxFlame, FraxPlorer, and Frax4D (I think I got those right) are part of
Kai's Power Tools 5, a set of plug-ins for Adobe Photoshop. These are
true-color modules that produce some very unique images. They only work as
plug-ins, though, which means you need a graphics package capable of using
them. (Photoshop, Painter, Picture Publisher, Paint Shop Pro, and
Photo-Paint can all do this.) None of those are free, however, and KPT5
itself lists for $199. FraxFlame is based on the flame fractals of Scott
Draves, and a free Windows version has been done by Michael Sargent.

There are probably others I missed, but these are the main ones. :-)

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  Fractalus Galleries & Info:
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or
in a newsgroup.  Thank you.

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 19:15:38 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal exhibition

In a message dated 99-10-29 01:23:00 EDT, you write:

<< I am having my first fractal exhibition in The Netherlands on November
 5th
 to 7th >>

Congratulations!  I hope the hothouse exhibition of your fractal artwork is a
great success and draws a lot of curious viewers to see your works.  Best of
luck!

p.s. What a great web site!  My tired eyes are very grateful for the clean,
easy to see-and-follow webwork, thank you:)

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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:42:47 +0400
From: "Anthony (Tony) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Stuck on expanded-size disk-video modes

Greetings,
Fractint even has fanatics in Azerbaijan!
Congratulations and many thanks to those who worked on the latest version,
with its improvements.  Wild.
I'm trying to play with some huge-size disk-video modes, by altering
un-needed settings in fractint.cfg.  The very first time I tried this and
then attempted to render a large-order dragon curve at 32,000 x 24,000, it
seemed to have worked, according to the box which informed me the image was
being rendered.  Every subsequent time, however, right after the message
about clearing the "space", it hung up and I needed to re-start my machine.
I usually use SF7, if that's any help.  Below are the changed settings from
my .cfg.  (I also defragged my hard drive, and there's at least 150 MB
free.)
Any suggestions please?
AF4 ,Disk/RAM 'Video'           ,   3,   0,   0,   0,  11,16000,12000,2,For
Background Fractals
AF5 ,Disk/RAM 'Video'           ,   3,   0,   0,   0,  11,20000,15000,2,For
Background Fractals
AF6 ,Disk/RAM 'Video'           ,   3,   0,   0,   0,  11,28000,21000,2,For
Background Fractals
Many thanks,

Tony Hanmer
Baku



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Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 02:56:32 -0500
From: BILL RAY <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) using fractint & music pars

I have a 200mhz Penium with 64megs of Ram running Windows95 (first
release).  I can run Fractint 20 if I boot to DOS.  Otherwise, under
Windows all I get when I attempt to color-cycle is a chaotic jumble of
horizontal bands.
    But when I run Fractint from DOS the music pars do not work.
When I run Fractint from Windows the music pars work fine but the images
don't.
    I would really like to be able to run Fractint, both images and
music, from either DOS or Windows together.
    I have a Creative SoundBlaster card and when I type "set" at the DOS
prompt (under Windows) I get:
BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6 E620
    When I start up the machine in DOS and type "set" I get:  BLASTER=T6
E620
    I have put all the SoundBlaster settings in my Autoexec.bat but they
are truncated to T6 E620 when I boot to DOS.
    I am at a loss as to what to do.  Has anyone else encountered this
problem?  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Bill


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Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 08:37:10 -0500
From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) A variant of ptc4m01 (par)

The below par is a result of a brief exploration of ptc4m01, (c) Sylvie
Gallet. The result was a change in one of my color maps to obtain a new one.

Hope this posts ok to the list.

==========================================================================


ds120              { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Nov 07, 1999 t=  0:00:38.06
                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768
                     ; A variant of ptc4m01 by S. Gallet
                     ; color map: exp02
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm
  formulaname=ptc+4mandels passes=1
  center-mag=-0.488759/-0.00391134/0.7183908 params=2/0/1.525/0/-2.5/0
  float=y maxiter=255 inside=0 decomp=256 symmetry=none periodicity=0
  cyclerange=0/255
  colors=qooqootsswww<9>aPR_MNXIK<3>O46hNW<19>tgqthruisujtvkuwmw<15>jQViOT\
  hNR<3>dGJU0H<8>k_emchogk<3>www<9>eNZcJXaFU<3>U0KA0K<8>c_ffciigl<3>www<9>\
  TNZQJXNFU<3>A0K005<24>mmnoopqqr<3>zzz<9>OORKKOGGK<3>005<35>nnooopqqq<3>w\
  ww<11>YOOWLLTII<3>K65<3>O56O46Q89<9>okk
  }


Regards,



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Back up my hard drive?
How do I put it in reverse?

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 01:02:35 +0400
From: "Anthony (Tony) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Still stuck on expanded-size disk-video modes

(Replying to Bill Jeminson on my problem with Lsystems and large size
renders -)
Hi Bill,
Thanks for the answer.  I have tried the following:
Moving Fractint to my much larger D drive and defragging it right before I
start.
Experimenting with some larger disk-video modes to render the default
Mandelbrot - just fine at 2.8 x 2.1k and 4 x 3k in 256 colours, confirmed in
Photoshop.
Trying another Lsystem, Hilbert, as well as the rounded Dragon Curve, in the
smaller of these modes - the display window still freezes right after
clearing the 'screen' - which suggests it's an Lsystem problem.
Have you tried your 12 x 16k rendering with lsystems?
Any help you (or anyone) could give would be much appreciated...!

Tony



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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:23:12 -0500
From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) using fractint & music pars

Bill,

Do a search on your computer for Sbeset.txt . I don't have a true Sound
Blaster card (SB Live! emulates SB <g>), but it looks to me as if the
instructions are sort of generic.

It gives instructions on how to use Sbeset.exe from the command line, and=

describes the parameters.

I'm just guessing that you might find something similar.

Bill

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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:23:14 -0500
From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Still stuck on expanded-size disk-video modes

I only tried the xtralarge disk video on the basic mandelbrot, and at a
very low maxiter, and this was very late in the development stage for v20=
.
We found a bug involving corrupted saves in XLdiskvideo and fixed it, and=
 I
was doing a quick and dirty test to show that it (XL diskvideo saves) was=

giving readable files. Naturally, when you are testing these huge images,=

you become limited in how many can generate. I have to keep reminding
myself that a 16000 x 12000 image is the equivalent of 100 fullscreen
1600x1200 fractals, and their associated generation time <g>.

Bill

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Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 15:35:17 -0500
From: BILL RAY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) using fractint & music pars

Bill,
Thank you for taking the time to answer my call for help.  I have searched
and there is no Sbeset.txt file on my system.  I am going to contact Creative
Tech Support and maybe they can help.  I'll keep you posted as any solution
might be of use to others.  Thanks again.  Bill

Bill Jemison wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Do a search on your computer for Sbeset.txt . I don't have a true Sound
> Blaster card (SB Live! emulates SB <g>), but it looks to me as if the
> instructions are sort of generic.
>
> It gives instructions on how to use Sbeset.exe from the command line, and
> describes the parameters.
>
> I'm just guessing that you might find something similar.
>
> Bill
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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:14:54 -0500
From: "Lightning Man" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) AMD

Hello, i was wondering if anyone has had any problems with AMD proccesers
and zooming. After about 9 or so full zooms(the smallest box) the fractal
stops being complex, and starts to totaly flatten out.  Is there any way
around this?




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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:29:49 -1000
From: "David Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) AMD

Mine (AMD K6-2/350MHz) works - just zoomed into the
basic Mandelbrot twelve full zoomes. I noticed that
after zoom 9, generation suddenly slowed way down; I
think that's when it made a transition from the AMD's
blazingly fast integer math to it's much slower floating
point math.

What do you mean by "stops being complex ... totally
flatten out"?

On  7 Nov 99 at 16:14, Lightning Man wrote:

> Hello, i was wondering if anyone has had any problems
> with AMD proccesers and zooming. After about 9 or so
> full zooms(the smallest box) the fractal stops being
> complex, and starts to totaly flatten out.  Is there any
> way around this?

Another blast of bits from David
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/aliasjj/   http://www.hawastsoc.org/
For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast:
    http://www.surfreporthawaii.com

Random Thought for this Nanosecond
What a mistaken view you get when you see only the facts! (D.Jones)



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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:56:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: AMD

At 04:14 PM 11/7/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello, i was wondering if anyone has had any problems with AMD proccesers
>and zooming. After about 9 or so full zooms(the smallest box) the fractal
>stops being complex, and starts to totaly flatten out.  Is there any way
>around this?

If the logmap is set to 1 on the problem images, try setting it to 2 or 0.

Jim M.


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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 0:52 0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) using sound pars

Hi Bill,

>    When I start up the machine in DOS and type "set" I get:
>BLASTER=T6
>E620

In that case just try typing:

SET BLASTER=A220

at the dos prompt (the rest of the soundblaster setup params aren't
needed )
Then run fractint, if this works then you could try making a batch file
to run fractint or double check your autoexec.bat file, there may be
an invisible control character in the blaster= line which is confusing
things, try deleting the line and retyping it, make sure you use a
simple editor like dos edit or notebook, not wordpad etc.

Hope this helps,
                       Robin.


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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:20:30 -0500
From: Barry N Merenoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: AMD Processor

Have you tried increasing the maximum iteration number?

Just a suggestion,
Collin Merenoff

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 01:04:48 -0500
From: "Lightning Man" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) AMD

sorry, i'm terrible at descibing things like this.  here is a screen shot:
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Sands/3550/fract008.gif

i never had troubles like this on my 486sx 25mhz, so that why i wondered it
it was the AMD
- ----- Original Message -----
From: David Jones <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: (fractint) AMD


> Mine (AMD K6-2/350MHz) works - just zoomed into the
> basic Mandelbrot twelve full zoomes. I noticed that
> after zoom 9, generation suddenly slowed way down; I
> think that's when it made a transition from the AMD's
> blazingly fast integer math to it's much slower floating
> point math.
>
> What do you mean by "stops being complex ... totally
> flatten out"?
>
> On  7 Nov 99 at 16:14, Lightning Man wrote:
>
> > Hello, i was wondering if anyone has had any problems
> > with AMD proccesers and zooming. After about 9 or so
> > full zooms(the smallest box) the fractal stops being
> > complex, and starts to totaly flatten out.  Is there any
> > way around this?
>
> Another blast of bits from David
> http://home.hawaii.rr.com/aliasjj/   http://www.hawastsoc.org/
> For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast:
>     http://www.surfreporthawaii.com
>
> Random Thought for this Nanosecond
> What a mistaken view you get when you see only the facts! (D.Jones)
>
>
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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 01:28:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) AMD

At 01:04 AM 11/8/99 -0500, you wrote:
>sorry, i'm terrible at descibing things like this.  here is a screen shot:
>http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Sands/3550/fract008.gif
>
>i never had troubles like this on my 486sx 25mhz, so that why i wondered it
>it was the AMD

I checked the screen shot.  The problem is definitely too low a maxiter.
The maxiter of the image you posted is 150.  Raise the maxiter to 1500 or so
and the rest of the image will appear.

Jim M.


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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 01:28:38 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) AMD

I would just try increasing the number of iterations.  I think that the new
version (20) has a lower default, and that may explain why it never happened
with your older processor.

> sorry, i'm terrible at descibing things like this.  here is a screen shot:
>  http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Sands/3550/fract008.gif
>
>  i never had troubles like this on my 486sx 25mhz, so that why i wondered it
>  it was the AMD
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: David Jones <[e-mail]>
>  To: <[e-mail]>
>  Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 6:29 PM
>  Subject: Re: (fractint) AMD
>
>
>  > Mine (AMD K6-2/350MHz) works - just zoomed into the
>  > basic Mandelbrot twelve full zoomes. I noticed that
>  > after zoom 9, generation suddenly slowed way down; I
>  > think that's when it made a transition from the AMD's
>  > blazingly fast integer math to it's much slower floating
>  > point math.
>  >
>  > What do you mean by "stops being complex ... totally
>  > flatten out"?
>  >
>  > On  7 Nov 99 at 16:14, Lightning Man wrote:
>  >
>  > > Hello, i was wondering if anyone has had any problems
>  > > with AMD proccesers and zooming. After about 9 or so
>  > > full zooms(the smallest box) the fractal stops being
>  > > complex, and starts to totaly flatten out.  Is there any
>  > > way around this?
>  >
>  > Another blast of bits from David
>  > http://home.hawaii.rr.com/aliasjj/   http://www.hawastsoc.org/
>  > For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast:
>  >     http://www.surfreporthawaii.com
>  >
>  > Random Thought for this Nanosecond
>  > What a mistaken view you get when you see only the facts! (D.Jones)
>  >
>  >
>  >
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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 16:04:58 -0500
From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) web site update

After several months of absence from the world of fractals I have
returned, and to prove it I set up five new galleries on my web site,
three of them devoted to experimentation with the spiral form and
colors.

As usual, my parameter files are available for download. So is an
updated gfp.ufm formula file, which contains several new formulas.

Your comments are appreciated.

Gedeon
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