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fractint-digest       Sunday, February 14 1999       Volume 01 : Number 364




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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 19:13:03 -0600
From: "Nature Leseul" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) In Which The Mad Lurker Actually Posts A Par

  Well, I was playing with my frm file, and I came up with this formula. I
don't know if this same mathematical logic has done before; I don't know all
the frms floating around out there. :-P The parallelogram structure here is
kinda interesting.

!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i
!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i
!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i


Tunnel             { ; The light at the end of the tunnel
                     ; Nature Leseul, 2-13-99
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=leseul.frm formulaname=Parallelogram
  passes=b center-mag=-1.77471/-2.7597e-005/13.33431/1.0001/-90/42.198
  maxiter=10000 colors=000zzz000<5>100100322<29>zzz<12>000<201>020
  }

frm:Parallelogram {
 ;Nature Leseul
 z=0, z1=0, z2=0, c=pixel:
 z1 = (real(z1)+imag(z2))
 z2 = (real(z2)+imag(z1))
 z = z1*z2 + c
 z1 = z1*z1 + c
 z2 = z2*z2 + c
 |z| < 4
}
||===================== ||
||   --v^v-[Nature Leseul]-v^v--    ||
||  The weird guy in the corner ||
||          Dreamy Smurf            ||
||             Donatello!               ||
||      "Some are vicious,          ||
||         some are fools,           ||
||        and others blind            ||
||          to see in me,             ||
||       one of their kind."          ||
||  -Anatoly, Endgame (Chess)||
||"Is this off-topic or what?"||
||===================== ||



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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:04:37 -0800
From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) ... The Mad Lurker Actually Posts A Par

At 07:13 PM 12/13/98 -0600, you wrote:
>  Well, I was playing with my frm file, and I came up with this formula. I
>don't know if this same mathematical logic has done before;
...
>frm:Parallelogram {
...

Not that it changes the validity of your formula, but you're
not actually replacing imag(z2) with imag(z1), but rather
with itself.

 z1 = (real(z1)+imag(z2)) ; imag(z1) = imag(z2)
 z2 = (real(z2)+imag(z1)) ; imag(z2) = imag(z1) = imag(z2),  .: z2 = z2

To do what I think you intended, you need to introduce
a temporary variable z1', and update z1 after calculating z2.

 z1' = real(z1)+imag(z2)
 z2 = real(z2)+imag(z1)
 z1 = z1'


Aloha, Bud


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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:33:07 -0800
From: "Leon Duych" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FIRST-TIME USER - help!!!

First-time user requires simple answers to simple questions:

    1. What is best?
         - ONE Fractint directory WITHOUT subdirectories?
                        or
         - WITH subdirectories?
                 - What subdirectory structure would be best?

    2. What full-screen Win95/98 DOS box settings are appropriate?

    3. What AUTOEXEC.BAT / CONFIG.SYS changes are useful?

    4. What are SSTOOLS.INI Fractint screen saver settings?
        Where must SSTOOLS.INI reside?

All helpful hints are much appreciated.

                Leon
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:52:58 -0600
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Resource List

The following is a list of resources for FractInt users and Discussion List members. (Last update -- November 12, 1998)

Thanks to Noel Giffin, this list is also available online at:
    http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/preslar.html

*** New entries


FractInt
    At Spanky ù
        http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html
    Mirror site ù
        http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/fractint.html
    FractInt Documentation ù
        http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/findex.html
    FractInt semi-official wish list ù
        http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/robin.b2/olig/fracwish.htm


Information, Tutorials and Explanations
    Anti-Aliasing Explained (Damien M. Jones) ù
        http://www.fractalus.com/misc/antialias.htm
    Basic FractInt Hints and Tips (Linda Allison) ù
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/basic/basic-information.htm
    Coloring Algorithms Explained (Damien M. Jones) ù
        http://www.fractalus.com/misc/implement.htm
    ColorMap tutorial (Linda Allison) ù
        http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/colors.html
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/colormaps/c/lormaps.htm
(mirror)
    Color Map Magic (Wizzle) ù
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/wizmaps/wizmaps.htm
    Color Tricks (Linda Allison) ù
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/colortricks/colortricks.htm
    Formula tutorial (Bradley Beacham) ù
        http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/frm-tut/frm-tutor.html
    Fractals Explained (Linda Allison) ù
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/define/fractals_defined.htm
    Fractal Information Page (Damien M. Jones) ù
        http://www.fractalus.com/misc/info.htm
    FractInt Tutorial (Bill Rossi) -
         http://members.aol.com/billatny/fractopi.htm
    Guide to the Mandelbrot and Julia Sets (Paul Derbyshire) ù
        http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/manguide.html
    Help for FractInt Discussion List newcomers!! (Wizzle) ù
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/fractint_list_q&a.htm
    High Resolution tutorial (Linda Allison) ù
        http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/lesson4.html
    Hints on getting started (Wizzle) ù
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/tips-fractint.htm
    If...Else tutorial ù
        http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/If_else.html
    Par and Frm tutorial (Linda Allison) ù
        http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/lesson.html
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/pars_and_frms/lesson.html (mirror)
    ParToBat, Tips and Hints for Using (or how to have a life AND
generate a
zillion fractals a day ;) ) (Linda Allison)
        http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/epic.html
    PHC and PTC Formula tutorial (Sylvie Gallet) ù
        http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/phc/phc-tutor.html
    PNG vs. JPEG discussed (Damien M. Jones) ù
        http://www.fractalus.com/misc/png-jpeg.htm
    Proportioning, Sizing, and Skewing tutorial (Linda Allison) ù
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/proportion/proportions.htm
    sci.fractals FAQ ù
        http://www.mta.ca/~mctaylor/sci.fractals-faq/
    Windows 95, How to run FractInt for DOS under ù
        http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/fracwin95.html
    Zooming tutorial (Linda Allison) ù
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/zoom/zoom-lesson.html


FractInt Discussion List
    Fractal '98 Contest ù
        http://www.fractalus.com/contest98/
    FractInt Discussion List archive ù
        ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/fractint/archive/
    1997 Contest (thumbnails of all the entries) ù
        http://www.fractalus.com/contest/
    The 1997 Contest Kit (Re-create the magic at home!!) ù
        http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/Contestk.zip
    Collection of Discussion List Pars & Formulas (Les St. Clair)
    (all the pars and frms since August 1997) ù
        http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/fml.htm
    The iFAQ (collected topics from the list) ù
        http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/iFAQ.html
    Copyrights Discussed (and discussed) ù
        http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/copyright.zip
    ColorMaps collected and organized by Wizzle ù
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractint_maps/newmaps.htm
    Dr. J's Fractal of the Night ù
        http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/FotN/FotNindx.html
    List of FractInt Mailing List members with ICQ numbers ù
        http://come.to/fractinticq


Additional Programs & Utilities
    AddGifs program (Paul Carlson) ù
        http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/addgifs.zip
    FractInt Screensaver v1.70 (Thore Berntsen) ù
        http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm
    Fractal Map Generator (Paulo Guagliumi) -
        http://members.tripod.com/softwork/map
    MakeMap utility (Ron Barnett) ù
        http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001/makemap.zip
    Orgfrm program (George Martin) ù
        http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/orgfrm.zip
    Partobat utility (version 3.4 for slower machines) (Michael
Peters) ù
        http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/IBMPC/PARTOB.ZIP
        http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JoWeber/jo_05.htm
    Partobat utility (version 3.5 for faster machines) (Michael
Peters) ù
        http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JoWeber/jo_05.htm
    XMAP and MMAP utilities (Jim Prickett) ù
        http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/9943


Infinite Fractal Loop
    Home Page ù
        http://www.fractalus.com/ifl/
    Graphical List ù
        http://www.fractalus.com/ifl/list.htm


Particularly Helpful Links Pages
    Wizzle's Graphlinks ù
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/graphlinks.htm


Fractal merchandise (posters, mouse mats, t-shirts, etc.)
    Lifesmith ù
        http://www.lifesmith.com/
    Refractal Design Inc. (fractal jewelry) ù
        http://www.refractal.com


Fractal-Art Mailing List
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    Fractal '98 Contest ù
        http://www.fractalus.com/contest98/
    Archive of messages ù
        ftp://ftp.fractalus.com/pub/lists/fractal-art/
    Jim Muth's Fractal of the Day index (last few weeks)
        http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html
    Jim Muth's complete FOTD archive of PARs and FRMs
        http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/pars.htm


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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:01:45 -0600
From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: FIRST-TIME USER

Leon Duych wrote:
>
> First-time user requires simple answers to simple questions:
>
>     1. What is best?
>          - ONE Fractint directory WITHOUT subdirectories?
>                         or
>          - WITH subdirectories?
>                  - What subdirectory structure would be best?

My configuration consists of subdirectories for 1) formulas, 2)
parameter files, 3) color maps, and 4) IFS files.

>
>     2. What full-screen Win95/98 DOS box settings are appropriate?

I go to the Start menu and restart the computer in MS-DOS mode. When I
exit FractInt, the computer automatically switches back to Windoze.
>
>     3. What AUTOEXEC.BAT / CONFIG.SYS changes are useful?

This really depends upon your computer system. For my config.sys I
have:
DOS=HIGH,UMB
Device=C:\DOS\Himem.Sys
Device=c:\DOS\EMM386.EXE 4096
DEVICEHIGH=c:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE /DOUBLE_BUFFER
BREAK=ON
BUFFERS=20
FILES=30
STACKS=9,256

and as the autoexec.bat:
SET winbootdir=C:\WINDOWS

In Fractint Properties, Program, Advanced Program Settings, I have a
check mark next to MS-DOS mode and a bullet before Specify a new
MS-DOS configuration, and then the above listed config.sys and
autoexe.bat info inserted.

>
>     4. What are SSTOOLS.INI Fractint screen saver settings?
>         Where must SSTOOLS.INI reside?
I don't use a screen saver, so someone else will have to answer this
question.

I have SSTOOLS.INI in the same directory with FractInt.EXE.


Bob Margolis

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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 23:29:15 -0600
From: "Nature Leseul" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) ... The Mad Lurker Actually Posts A Par

<<Not that it changes the validity of your formula, but you're
not actually replacing imag(z2) with imag(z1), but rather
with itself.  >>

  Ah, the infamous "swap" error. And here, after every programming book I've
ever read has warned me about that. :-P Well, trying the fixed formula, I
come up with an image which seems to hold absolutely nothing of interest. I
think I'll stick with the error formula for now. :-P

  Speaking of which, I came up with another image from the same formula..
Both of these that I've posted are actually kind of close to the surface of
this formula. It looks kind of promising; I really want to see what kind of
stuff may lurk further down. If I can just get a few perfect fractaling
days. :-P (Frm version posted below is slightly optimized)

OlympicTorch       { ; by Nature Leseul
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=leseul.frm
  formulaname=Parallelogram passes=b
  center-mag=-1.52692/0.786317/13.33431/1.0001 maxiter=10000
 colors=000456<2>122000000<14>000100310<29>kG0mH0mH0<32>zc0zc0yb0<31>dHFc\
  GGbGGaGG<31>211000101<32>h0xj0zj1z<30>VanUcmUbl<27>568
  }

frm:Parallelogram {
 ;Nature Leseul
 z=0, z1=0, z2=0, c=pixel:
 z1 = (real(z1)+imag(z2))
 z = z1*z2 + c
 z1 = z1*z1 + c
 z2 = z2*z2 + c
 |z| < 4
}

||===================== ||
||   --v^v-[Nature Leseul]-v^v--    ||
||  The weird guy in the corner ||
||          Dreamy Smurf            ||
||             Donatello!               ||
||      "Some are vicious,          ||
||         some are fools,           ||
||        and others blind            ||
||          to see in me,             ||
||       one of their kind."          ||
||  -Anatoly, Endgame (Chess)||
||"Is this off-topic or what?"||
||===================== ||



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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:30:10 -0800
From: Lee&SusanLane <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: FIRST-TIME USER

Bob,
I have always run Fractint through Windows95. What's the advanatage to
restarting the computer in MS-DOS mode?
Lee Lane
>
> I go to the Start menu and restart the computer in MS-DOS mode. When I
> exit FractInt, the computer automatically switches back to Windoze.
> >


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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:47:33 -0600
From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: FIRST-TIME USER

Lee&SusanLane wrote:
>
> Bob,
> I have always run Fractint through Windows95. What's the advanatage to
> restarting the computer in MS-DOS mode?
> Lee Lane

Hi Lee;

I don't know if there's any advantage. All I can say is that I never
could get FractInt to work properly on my machine using DOS under
Windoze 95. I carried on private e-mail discussions on this very topic
a couple of years ago with a couple of other fractal artists, and none
pf their suggestions worked properly for my machine. That's why I
reboot to MS-DOS mode and use the same settings as when I used
FractInt under DOS umpteen years ago. I've encountered no problems
with this latter method.

But I'm talking about the machine I'm using to write and send this
e-mail message. It's an IBM 486 DX66. I have another computer, A
COMPAQ Presario 400 MHz speed demon, which I occasionally use for
FractInt, and it runs smoothly in DOS under Windoze 95. But most of my
fractal art programs and files are on the other machine, so I use that
one more for my fractal art master, er, laughterpieces.

Ciao,

Bob

Bob

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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:29:45 -1000
From: "Shauna Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: FIRST-TIME USER

On 13 Feb 99 at 23:30, Lee&SusanLane wrote:

> I have always run Fractint through Windows95. What's the
> advanatage to restarting the computer in MS-DOS mode?

With our current Diamond Stealth 64 Series 2000 card,
Fractint will not run under W95. The two fight over the
display and the computer freezes.

Fractint works fine with the Diamond card under OS/2.

Another blast of bits from David
http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/   http://www.hawastsoc.org/
For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:48:40 +0100
From: "Frederik Slijkerman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) The price of fractal software

Tim,

Although your message didn't mention any specific fractal programs,
I feel you're primarily talking about Ultra Fractal (and me) here.
So I would like to give some comments.

> I am even more
> concerned when I see non-open-source programs that make
> fractint-compatability their major feature, but do not share their
> source.

Fractint compatiblity is not UF's major feature. I am actually
surprised at the number of people who like this. Ultra Fractal offers
much more than Fractint compatibility -- otherwise, why would anyone
use it?

> They don't have the right to re-use fractint's code for another fractal
> program, though it is unlikely anyone is. If I wanted to make my
> program behave like another, I would study the other code
> carefully, then right my own. This is probably legal.

For the record: I have not used any of Fractint's code in Ultra
Fractal, of course. This isn't even possible, since Ultra Fractal has
been written in Delphi, not in C. Also, Fractint is thorougly single-
threaded (using global variables and stuff): its source can't be used
in a multi-threaded, multiple document program like UF.

Furthermore, Ultra Fractal "does not behave" like Fractint. UF was
developed from scratch. Only in the last stage I have added a feature
to import Fractint parameter sets. This was possible because the
formula compiler can also read Fractint fractal formulas.

Thanks to the extensive documentation in Fractint, I was able to
do this without looking at the source, just by following the help
text and trying some parameter sets to be sure.

> and incorporate
> our new features into their fractint-compatible, commercial, closed
> source program?

Which "new Fractint features" have been incorporated into UF?

Fractint was (and is) a very good fractal program. It was actually
the first program to take fractal software to a serious level.
However, some features are still missing, like multiple layers,
true-color output, better support of coloring algorithms, etc.
Ultra Fractal was written as a new fractal program that would
solve these problems. I have added Fractint compatibility only
to facilitate people to make the switch from Fractint to UF.

Best regards,
Frederik.


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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 08:45:53 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: FIRST-TIME USER

In a message dated 2/14/99 12:38:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<
 I have always run Fractint through Windows95. What's the advanatage to
 restarting the computer in MS-DOS mode?
 Lee Lan >>

Lee,

For most uses , I have no trouble running Fractint through Windows95.
However, when I need to create a large size multiple-part image, I can only
get this feature working properly by restarting in DOS mode.

Bill Rossi
http://members.aol.com/billatny/fractopi.htm

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:17:29 -0500
From: Paul Derbyshire <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What's up with the list?

At 03:36 PM 2/13/99 -0600, you wrote:
>It's called a "Bank Debit Card", which is the only plastic that I
>carry.  I got rid of all my credit cards a decade and a half ago.  Been
>a lot happier since.   :-)

Too bad having an ATM card is useless for INTERNET transactions. The whole
idea of internet commerce is that if you have the money, you just do some
secure online transaction and it arrives at your door in a day to 8 weeks
depending on what it is...or arrives at your c:/download directory in
anywhere from minutes to an hour or two.

>Send the money, cashier's check or money order to me, and I'll buy you
>what ever you can afford.   :-)   You'll have it delivered to you at my
>expense (call it a gift).

That doesn't really work (although thanks anyways)...the idea of electronic
communication is that you can get things without having to mess with the
unreliable and slow snail mail... just do something electronically, and
1. If it's software, boom, you download it and are ready to go after
   only a few minutes, and
2. If it's something physical, you get a knock on the door one day
   and there it is. Sign for it, lug it to where you need it, and
   that's it.


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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:33:32 -0500
From: Barry N Merenoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: Fractint Evolver

What is the Fractint Evolver? How can I get it?

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:41:19 -0500
From: Barry N Merenoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: another message

Fractint has a screen saver setting?

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:59:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: Fractint Evolver

At 01:33 PM 2/14/99 -0500, you wrote:

>What is the Fractint Evolver? How can I get it?

Wait for Fractint version 20.0 to be released, hopefully in the
near future.  The evolver will be included in that version.

Jim Muth
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:39:36 +0100
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What's up with the list?

I was just spammed with some credit card ad........ coincidence?




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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:50:35 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) The price of fractal software

Frederik wrote:

> Although your message didn't mention any specific fractal programs,
> I feel you're primarily talking about Ultra Fractal (and me) here.

Actually, not. I was mostly being intentionally provocative, and
making a ppoint in general about open source. I am sure that
UltraFractal does not use Fractint's source, and I agree that it has
a lot of additional functionality to Fractint.

You are probably right that someone could read into my message
that I was accusing you of using our code.  I installed Ultrafractal
yesterday for a quick look, and it is obviously a program with a
completely different design and implementation.

> Only in the last stage I have added a feature
> to import Fractint parameter sets. This was possible because the
> formula compiler can also read Fractint fractal formulas.
>
> Thanks to the extensive documentation in Fractint, I was able to
> do this without looking at the source, just by following the help
> text and trying some parameter sets to be sure.

However, in a more general way I could have been talking about
Ultra Fractal. You have benefiting enormously from Fractint in
developing your concepts to go beyond Fractint. You say as much
in the quotes above. You have included the functionality of
Fractint's parser in your program. If you hadn't, it would not be
possible to run translated formula PARs in Ultra Fractal. (You were
within your rights to do this).

Fractint developed the way it did because it was open source.
Fractint developed concepts and created the image of what a
fractal program can be. The fact that it was open source was the
key. Programmers implemented new concepts and contributed
them. One reason Fractint was open source was so that up and
coming programmers could learn and use (what was once) the
state of the art.

Even if you didn't look at the source (I wouldn't begrudge your
looking at the source if you did, in fact you'd be foolish not to), you
benefited from the fact that Fractint is open source.

I find that now the shoe is on the other foot. My programming skills
have fallen way behind because in my professional life I do non-GUI
C programming. I have never managed to get myself assigned to do
any Windows or GUI programming, or even C++. Most of the other
team members are in a similar situation. Unless we get an infusion
of new programming blood, or unless someone starts a brand new
open source project similar to Fractint (but avoids the problems of
the legacy code and platform), Fractint and what it represents is
dead.

Where is there a full featured, open source program that is a
worthy successor to Fractint? There isn't one, as far as I know.
Actually I am very interested in Xaos, which runs on many
platforms, and has just been ported to Windows. I may shift my
efforts to working with Xaos, or merging some of Fractint's features
with Xaos. Xaos, besides being open source, acknowledges
Fractint generously.

You are certainly under no obligation to make your efforts a team
project or make your program open source. I'm just sorry that no
one with your skills has moved the fractint concept into a newer,
better design, in an open source project that I can participate in. I
don't have the skills to do this myself.

I am radically committed to the open source concept. I love Linux,
POV-Ray, Fractint, and Xaos for this reason. I don't expect anyone
one else to agree with me. It's just my personal decision. I am not
even speaking for "Stone Soup" when I say this.

The bottom line for me is: you have benefited from our thousands of
hours of work over ten years. We will not benefit from your work
because your program is not open source. I am not saying you are
making the wrong decision, or that the situation should be
otherwise, I am  just saying that it's a fact: we won't be able to
benefit from your work. We knew this was a possibility going in, we
took the risk with our eyes wide open, so we can't complain.

Tim


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