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fractint-digest        Friday, October 23 1998        Volume 01 : Number 324




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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 06:09:17 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTW par file

>> Great image, great series Sylvie!

  Thank you, Les!

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 06:09:18 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) pars- stars a

Hi Paul,

>> Wow - that's FAST!

  Yes!  Too bad I didn't have the means to buy a P450...

>> Wish my monitor (and CPU) could handle 1600X1200.

  And your video card.
 =

>> I'll upload to my Fractint site when I get something interesting.

  BTW, I loved the images you've added to your site these last weeks!

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:40:33 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTW par file

>> Dreamer?

  Dreamer 1.0, (c)1998 by Terry W. Gintz ([e-mail]).

        - Sylvie

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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:01:38 -0200
From: Hamilton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fract over 2048

Thanx for the info, i found it fine for what i want.
Hamilton

Ken Childress escreveu:

> See the following site,
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/mirror.html






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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:17:10 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) (Fractint) Kerry's star formulas (4 pars)

Hi Les,

>> Well Kerry, I absolutely loved your images and have been having great
>> fun playing with the formulas.

  Me too, great formulas!

>> Here's a couple of first efforts (more to follow)...

  Super!  I particularly loved les_star04.

  Here's a couple of pars:

starnear-jul-1     { ; .                                    t=3D  0:10:17=
=2E20
                     ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Oct 21, 1998
                     ; <[e-mail]>
                     ; t=3Dcalc time using a PII 300 at 1600 x 1200
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D_s.frm formulaname=3Dstarnear=
_jul
  passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-0.00438516/0.000175696/4.490897/1/65
  params=3D-1.746/0.01/0/0/0.3/18 float=3Dy maxiter=3D256 inside=3D0
  decomp=3D256 periodicity=3D0
  colors=3DW80<14>N59M4AM5B<6>TEJUGKVHLWJNXKOYLP<5>cUXeWZeWZ<8>jdfkefkfgk=
fg<\
  23>xxxxxxwwx<27>hejgdigdigdi<5>fdffdfgef<28>yylzzmzzmzzm<29>zvbzvbzvazv=
`\
  <42>zm3zm2yl1yk0yi0<2>yg0xf0wd0<19>dE0cC0aB0_A0Y90 cyclerange=3D0/255
  }

starnear-jul-4     { ; .                                    t=3D  0:05:35=
=2E26
                     ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Oct 21, 1998
                     ; <[e-mail]>
                     ; t=3Dcalc time using a PII 300 at 1600 x 1200
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D_s.frm formulaname=3Dstarnear=
_jul
  passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-0.206361/0.741486/1.718213/1/-4.999
  params=3D0.5/0.45/0.05/0.05/0.5/15 float=3Dy maxiter=3D256 inside=3D0
  decomp=3D256 periodicity=3D0
  colors=3DK77<4>I45I44I44H44G45<11>45A36B47B<120>wwzwwzvvy<108>K78
  cyclerange=3D0/255
  }

starnear-jul-5     { ; .                                    t=3D  0:09:44=
=2E62
                     ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Oct 21, 1998
                     ; <[e-mail]>
                     ; t=3Dcalc time using a PII 300 at 1600 x 1200
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D_s.frm formulaname=3Dstarnear=
_jul
  passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-0.474182/0.316583/4.901961
  params=3D-0.65/0.6/0.05/-0.05/0.55/27 float=3Dy maxiter=3D256 inside=3D=
0
  decomp=3D256 periodicity=3D0 colors=3D149<126>wwzwwzvvy<123>F00038038
  cyclerange=3D0/255
  }

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:14:54 -0600
From: Wayne Kiely <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Printing Trial

Hi all.

I thought I'd share the results of a recent trial with you all on the above
topic. This follows a recent thread on photo enlarging etc..

In Australia we have what is referred to as the Kodak Image Magic System. It
may well go by other names in different parts of the world.

This is basically a system whereby you take your old photos, and they scan
them at high res and reprint them to your wishes. In this way you can remove
red-eye, enlarge prints, delete ex significant partners (!) and so on.

I made some enquiries as to the file types the system uses (JPEG) and
various other parameters.

The limitations are as follows:

1/  You can only get data into their system via floppy or CD.

2/  I doubt that the system (because of the job it is normally designed to do)
    could handle compressed files.

3/  Printouts are normally limited to 8" x 10", although they claim they can
    enlarge up to 16" x 20".  I don't know if this is available locally (I live
    in the country).

The above looked reasonably promising so I rendered Paul Carlson's NWT3WAY3
from April this year (I chose this because of the nice bold colours it uses)
in 9 pieces. I then joined it, converted it to JPG format, sharpened
slightly and resampled to the biggest file I could comfortably fit on a floppy.

The result?

A 1.34Mb file that printed out (with a very minor amount of cropping) to an
8 x 10" print of stunning quality! The people in the shop were amazed.
Nobody had ever brought them in a picture on a disk before.

The colour pretty closely matched the screen and what amazed me was that it
both worked the first time and was so easy to do. How many times can you
ever claim that?

The cost?

$13.50 (Australian) including laminating.

Try it - you'll be impressed.

Regards,

Wayne


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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:43:07 -0400
From: Paul Derbyshire <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTW par file

At 11:40 AM 10/21/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>> Dreamer?
>
>  Dreamer 1.0, (c)1998 by Terry W. Gintz ([e-mail]).
>
>        - Sylvie

What is it? :)

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- -()  <  circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a
   `*'  straight line."    -------------------------------------------------
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_____________________ ____|________     Paul Derbyshire     [e-mail]
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:18:34 -0300
From: "Fliguer, Miguel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) New fractal site

Sorry if you got this twice....
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> Hello fractal folks !
>
> Everybody is invited to my Franktal Gallery. Hope you like it, send
> comments & feedback to [e-mail] , or to the list.
>
> Oops, I almost forget it...
>
> http://members.xoom.com/fliguer/franktal.html
>
> Miguel Fliguer - Buenos Aires, Argentina
> [e-mail]
[e-mail]





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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:01:40 -0300
From: "Fliguer, Miguel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Franktal site

Well, I optimized the main page for a faster loading. I'd really
like to know your impressions.

http://members.xoom.com/fliguer/franktal.html

Regards,
Miguel Fliguer - Buenos AIres, Argentina



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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:21:57 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Franktal site

In a message dated 10/22/98 1:03:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Well, I optimized the main page for a faster loading. I'd really
 like to know your impressions.
  >>
Greetings,
Yes! Very quick!
Good work!
Steve

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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:14:28 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTW par file

>> What is it? :)

  The successor of ZPlot and Fractal Elite.  It can generate truecolor
images and read Fractint pars and formulas.

        - Sylvie

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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:49:04 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Franktal site

Fliguer, Miguel wrote:
>
> Well, I optimized the main page for a faster loading.
> I'd really like to know your impressions.
>     http://members.xoom.com/fliguer/franktal.html
>

Saludos,

Su webpage carga en cerca de 50 segundos con una conexi≤n 28800.

Imßgenes de Niza!!  Gracias por la visi≤n.

Por favor, excuse mi espa±ol, Θl no es muy bueno.

Mßs adelante,
P.N.L.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:00:56 -0300
From: "Fliguer, Miguel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Franktal site

Gracias !!! ! :-). Pretty good spanish ! ( But what did=20
you try to say with "Imagenes de Niza " ?  Nice images ?)

BTW, on the same page, Sylvie reported 19 minutes at 28800 !!!

Miguel Fliguer
Buenos Aires, Argentina

> ----------
> De:     Paul N. Lee[SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Responder a:     [e-mail]
> Enviado el:     jueves 22 de octubre de 1998 18:49
> Para:     [e-mail]
> Asunto:     Re: (fractint) Franktal site
>=20
> Fliguer, Miguel wrote:
> >=20
> > Well, I optimized the main page for a faster loading.
> > I'd really like to know your impressions.
> >     http://members.xoom.com/fliguer/franktal.html
> >
>=20
> Saludos,=20
>=20
> Su webpage carga en cerca de 50 segundos con una conexi=F3n 28800.=20
>=20
> Im=E1genes de Niza!!  Gracias por la visi=F3n.=20
>=20
> Por favor, excuse mi espa=F1ol, =E9l no es muy bueno.=20
>=20
> M=E1s adelante,=20
> P.N.L.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:31:29 -0400
From: Paul DeCelle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Franktal site

Fliguer, Miguel wrote:
>
> Well, I optimized the main page for a faster loading. I'd really
> like to know your impressions.
>
> http://members.xoom.com/fliguer/franktal.html
>
Miguel--

Nice site!  Loads up good and quick, too.  My favorites are "Magnetic
Beauty" and "Spiral13"  See you at St. Alphonso's!

Regards, Paul

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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:47:27 -0700
From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Copyright FAQ? / demons / Gallet-6-08

I just got a query from a Website visitor about copright issues,
and seem to recall someone compiling either a FAQ or digest
of prior discussions.  Or was that on the Fractal Art list?
Can anyone direct me to the data?  Thanks in advance.

To Paul DeCelle, re "Demon_At_The_Gates":

Nice image. Love those flames!  If only I had the server space
(more = $$ issue), I would host that Halloween gallery I suggested
last spring when I came up with "Lucifer holds Court".

To Sylvie, re Gallet-6-08:

Nice to see more images from the author.  I especially liked the
crosses.  And I just can't rave enough about the formula!  I have
been using it exclusively since August 4th, and find it as fertile
as "gravijul" and its relatives.


Regards, Bud





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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:14:06 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Franktal site

Fliguer, Miguel wrote:
>
> Gracias !!! ! :-). Pretty good spanish !

Thanks.

> ( But what did you try to say with "Imagenes de Niza " ?
>  Nice images ?)

Yes. (Si)  :-)

I personally liked the "trapiz" series the best (especially #2).

>
> BTW, on the same page, Sylvie reported 19 minutes at 28800 !!!

I tried it just now at 31200, it took about 45 seconds going through
three generic nodes and nine Net nodes.  All were fast except for one
generic and one Net node, which were moderate.  Might just be the time
of day affecting the download.

P.N.L.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:19:25 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Copyright FAQ? / demons / Gallet-6-08

Mark Christenson wrote:
>
> I just got a query from a Website visitor about copright issues,
> and seem to recall someone compiling either a FAQ or digest
> of prior discussions.  Or was that on the Fractal Art list?
> Can anyone direct me to the data?  Thanks in advance.
>

Linda Allison put the information together, and there are two different
formats available as ZIP files from Jay Hill's website at:

    http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/

P.N.L.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:09:45 -0400
From: [e-mail] (ace kauffman)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Copyright FAQ?

Mark Christenson wrote:
> I just got a query from a Website visitor about copright issues,
> and seem to recall someone compiling either a FAQ or digest
> of prior discussions.  Or was that on the Fractal Art list?
> Can anyone direct me to the data?  Thanks in advance.
>
Paul  wrote
>Linda Allison put the information together, and there are two different
>formats available as ZIP files from Jay Hill's website at:
>    http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/
>
That file contains all the chatter but no clear answers

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 01:06:54 -0400
From: [e-mail] (ace kauffman)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Copyright FAQ?

thanks Les

an_egg_from_les    { ; original G5_08_59 "Ace of Spades"
                     ; zoomed,recolored, fn chg
<[e-mail]>
                     ; orginal(c)1997 Les St
Clair<[e-mail]>
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=gallet-5-08
  function=tanh/acosh/cosxx passes=1
  center-mag=-8.31301/-7.75401/0.1601044/0.7258/45.686/18.722
  params=8/0/8/0/5/0 float=y maxiter=500 inside=0 decomp=256
  periodicity=0 viewwindows=4.2/0.75/yes/640/400

colors=bVH<9>zpa<5>jcPh`MeZKcWI`UGYREXQDVOBTM9QK7PK7000<71>000A04000<24>\

000B4IC4J000<8>803903B04<6>I0600G<8>J0DM0CM3F<14>Tkn40F<2>D0E000<43>1008\
  0A907A05B03<10>100000100<12>000YRD_TF cyclerange=0/255
  }



G5_08_59           { ; "Ace of Spades"                       t=
0:08:30.50
                     ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using 486DX2-66 at 1024x768
                     ; (c) 1997 Les St Clair <[e-mail]>
                     ; parameters created on Feb 15, 1997
  reset=1950 type=formula formulafile=les_pars.frm
  formulaname=gallet-5-08 function=tanh/acosh/sin passes=1

center-mag=+3.22694600280981000/-3.22698109762123900/229.473/0.7258/45.6\
  86/-1.632 params=8/0/8/0/5/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=0
  decomp=256 periodicity=0

colors=BCC<20>mzz<20>AAA<19>awaczcbxb<20>AAA<20>zcm<20>AAA<21>zcK<20>AAA\
  <20>hcz<21>AAA<20>zzc<20>AAA cyclerange=0/255
  }

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:11:18 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Copyright FAQ?

ace kauffman wrote:
>
> I wrote:
> >
> >    http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/
>
> That file contains all the chatter but no clear answers
>

Then how about trying the following:

OCEAN STATE LAWYERS FOR THE ARTS (OSLA)
    http://www.artslaw.org/

ETHICAL DILEMMAS AND LEGAL LANDMINES -- STEALING BEAUTY
    http://www.cio.com/archive/webbusiness/090198_gray_content.html

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:43:57 -0400
From: [e-mail] (ace kauffman)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Copyright FAQ?

OCEAN STATE LAWYERS FOR THE ARTS (OSLA)
    http://www.artslaw.org/

ETHICAL DILEMMAS AND LEGAL LANDMINES -- STEALING BEAUTY
    http://www.cio.com/archive/webbusiness/090198_gray_content.html

Paul,
 my browser says 1st sight no longer in operation, the second sight is
fine for what it deals with but I don't think it helps clear the air for
well meaning folks playing with pars either.  There is a fine line to be
drawn and even after a cupple of years I'm not sure where it is.  The
best I've heard is "if  it looks similar to the orginal then the orginal
copyright holds."   I won't say more cause everyone is sick of the issue.

Kirsten

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:16:19 +1300
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Copyright FAQ?

At 02:43 23/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
>OCEAN STATE LAWYERS FOR THE ARTS (OSLA)
>    http://www.artslaw.org/
>
>
>Paul,
> my browser says 1st sight no longer in operation...
>
I get it fine. At first glance, the most relevant documents would seem to be

Derivative Works (http://www.artslaw.org/DERIV.HTM)

Whose Copyright is it - Anyway? (http://www.artslaw.org/OWNCOPY.HTM) <- the
Copyright Office might decide that the printer holds the copyright, not the
artist.

Is it Original Or is it...? (http://www.artslaw.org/REPRO.HTM)


Morgan


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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:36:40 -1000
From: "Shauna Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Franktal site

My 33.6 has been hanging here for 13 minutes at
"members.xoom.com contact. Waiting for reply". Then it
gave me the wonderful message, "Document contains no
data."

Using NS4.06 for W31.

Is it just me, or is Xoom slow????

On 22 Oct 98 at 19:00, Fliguer, Miguel wrote:

> Gracias !!! ! :-). Pretty good spanish ! ( But what did
> you try to say with "Imagenes de Niza " ?  Nice images
> ?)
>
> BTW, on the same page, Sylvie reported 19 minutes at
> 28800 !!!

Another blast of bits from David
http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/   http://www.hawastsoc.org/
For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:[e-mail]

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No situation is so bad that unbridled enthusiasm can't make it better. -- D.Jones



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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:58:05 -0400
From: [e-mail] (ace kauffman)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Copyright FAQ?

Morgan wrote
>I get it fine. At first glance, the most relevant documents would seem
to be
>Derivative Works (http://www.artslaw.org/DERIV.HTM)
>Whose Copyright is it

Yea, I finaly got there !
Paul.
 Well worth the visit.  This is where I'll send folks with doubts.
Thanks,
Kirsten

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:50:46 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) Fractint built-in formulae

 I would like to know if it is possible to have in a text form the formulae "embedded' in Fractint. I know that the
various help windows are giving good hints, but I would prefer a real *.frm file

In particular, I would like to see  the Pickover's three dim orbit defined by
 xnew = sin(a*y) - z*cos(b*x)
 ynew = z*sin(c*x) - cos(d*y)
 znew = sin(x)
(with parameters a = 2.24, b = .43, c = -.65, d = -2.43) in a *.frm file

Thanks

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:48:59 -0400
From: Paul Derbyshire <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Franktal site

Sounds like Xoom's httpd isn't Apache..... Microsoft and Netscape httpd are
prone to stopping responding or hanging.
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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:59:39 -0700
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Copyright iFAQ  updated and Jay is back!

> From: Morgan L. Owens <[e-mail]>
> At 02:43 23/10/98 -0400, [Paul] wrote:
> >OCEAN STATE LAWYERS FOR THE ARTS (OSLA)
> >    http://www.artslaw.org/

The iFAQ has been updated.
http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/iFAQ.html
I hope Morgan and Paul don't mind being iFAQed.

Hi Paul Derbyshire and David E. Shanholtzer.  Thank
you for the inquires of Dr. J.  And I am fine. The
Dr. J series
http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/FotN/FotNindx.html
'disappeared' while the contest traffic was swamping the lists.

For the contest, I took a break from Fractint to explore
other fractal programs.  My non-fractint contests entries,
while I thought they were nice, were a big flop. I must
say, I had no real understanding of what the images were
being created from (what formula or theory) and what
the color schemes were doing. Talk about wandering
lost in 20 dimensional universes. It was like a ride at
a fun park where around each corner is a pazzaz
scene unrelated to the one before. At least I sort of
know my way around Fractint. I have used it for about
12 years.  That's what makes the Dr. J series possible,
the exploration of fractals with the very controllable
Fractint program. Thank you Tim.

Speaking of which, although Dr. J has been muzzled
lately, I have posted a few times. One about Kerry's
emboss effect (9/11/98),  and one titled "Slide show of
the year!" (9/27/98). In October I vacationed in mountains
of Nevada and California where there was no electric
power (used batteries), no TV and only difficult to get
radio (read no radio), and no Internet. So I lost all touch
with 'reality' and also lost $3491 on the stock market.
(I had bought gold stocks, duh, and missed the big up
move in just about everything else!) Now I see the traffic
in Fractal-Art has settled to just Jim's FOTD, perhaps
we can get Paul Derbyshire to release Dr. J from kidnap.
(Paul, may I use that cute image you sent? Please
resend it to mailto:[e-mail]).

However this list is something else. I have 3028 unread
messages.  Sorry if that is an offense to the posters here.
But I am whelmed. I lost my grip about 8 months ago.
That was just after I had written that I read every posting
and viewed every par image. But it was like hanging on to
a rope while being towed behind a speed boat. Soon
I had to let go.  I use Microsoft Internet Mail (part of IE 3)
which stores all the email on my hard disk (so it is not
back at the Internet server).  My inbox file is 39Mb!!
It is all there, so I'll get to it some day. :-)

I think updating the subject lines once in a while would
help.  Especially if a thread drifts off topic and then back
on to a new (on topic) topic. Observe I changed the
subject line of this post.

And here is a new topic. Was there not a fellow who
was trying to post every image (from those pars posted
here) on his web site?  He had a bunch of thumbs of
my FOTD (he had asked permission) and some others.
Who was this and what's his site? And at what point did
he fail to keep up? :-) It would be at least a Gig of web
site by now. If this site is still keeping up with this list,
I want to reference it from my site!!

Cheers,
Jay Hill

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:06:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ken Childress <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Copyright iFAQ  updated and Jay is back!


Jay,

> And here is a new topic. Was there not a fellow who
> was trying to post every image (from those pars posted
> here) on his web site?  He had a bunch of thumbs of
> my FOTD (he had asked permission) and some others.
> Who was this and what's his site? And at what point did
> he fail to keep up? :-) It would be at least a Gig of web
> site by now. If this site is still keeping up with this list,
> I want to reference it from my site!!

Don't know about images, but Les St. Claire does collect the pars and
has them downloadable from his web site.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/


Ken...



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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:47:50 -0700
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Jay is Back

Hi.  It's good to have you back.
The list messages do pile up, even for me
where I can whiz through it by deleting everything
I don't understand :-)   I've been mostly viewing the
pars at the end of the month using Les St.Clair's
compilation, but you lose the back-and-forth on
the images which I think (along with the occasional
long math or background explanations) is the most
interesting part of the list.
          The person who was putting
all the images on his web site gave up
in mid February but still has them posted.

http://ireland.iol.ie/~bagpuss/


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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:59:22 -0300
From: "Fliguer, Miguel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Weird slowdown

I'm having an annoying problem with Fractint 19.6 on Windows NT
workstation 4.0. Every time I generate an image, after about 8 seconds it
slows
down. Then, if I hit C (as if I'd wish to change colors) and then ESC, it
resumes
at the original speed. Then after 8 seconds, it slows down again. Anybody
ever found this weird symptom ? This happens in every Passes modes
(tesseral, boundary, 1,2,3, and guessing).

The system is a HP Vectra VE, and it has an integrated video controller,
reported by the control panel as SiS 6205 from SiS Corporation, with 1 MB of

video memory. I use it typically at SF5 (640x480x256)

Thanks for any info.
Regards,

Miguel Fliguer
Buenos Aires, Argentina







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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:58:20 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Franktal site

Hi Miguel,

>> BTW, on the same page, Sylvie reported 19 minutes at 28800 !!!

  It was for the page with all 44 thumbnails plus 7 640x480 images (total=

size: about 1 mb).  Is it xoom or Compuserve?  I don't know.

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:58:21 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Copyright FAQ? / demons / Gallet-6-08

Hi Bud,

>> Nice to see more images from the author.  I especially liked the
>> crosses.  And I just can't rave enough about the formula!  I have been=

>> using it exclusively since August 4th, and find it as fertile as
>> "gravijul" and its relatives.

  Thanks!!!  Seeing the images other artists create with my formulas
sometimes makes me feel like exploring them again.  The popcorn formula
that inspired me was very fertile too.

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:00:07 -0300
From: "Fliguer, Miguel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Franktal site

> Paul Derbyshire[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote :
>
>>>Sounds like Xoom's httpd isn't Apache..... [snip]

Yes it is. I just checked it on WTF  (
http://barley.electriclichen.com/cgi-bin/wtf )

    Checking host: members.xoom.com port 80
    (Which is really colo00-167.xoom.com with an IP address of
206.132.163.167)
    Operating system: * SO desconocido, actualice
/usr/local/etc/queso.conf
    Web server software: Apache/1.2.5

The third line means "Unknown Operating System, update
/usr/local/etc/queso.conf"

Anyway, I like Xoom MUCH MORE than Geocities... I like to see my HTML source
unmodified after I upload it...


Regards,

Miguel Fliguer
Buenos Aires, Argentina


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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:18:19 -0400
From: Paul Derbyshire <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Franktal site

At 04:00 PM 10/23/98 -0300, you wrote:
>The third line means "Unknown Operating System, update
>/usr/local/etc/queso.conf"

Aha... that explains it then. Apache may be a stable, well-behaved, robust
httpd... fat lot of good that does if it's running under Windows NT, and NT
chooses to hang.


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