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From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest)
To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: fractint-digest V1 #275
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fractint-digest Wednesday, August 19 1998 Volume 01 : Number 275
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:36:10 EDT
From: <Damascena@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) light praise
In a message dated 8/18/98 4:54:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
JimBeau549@aol.com writes:
> I started
> with a 33mhz and 40Mb drive making fractals using 300x200 resolution
And so did I, but I had only a 16-color card, and Winfract. Ouchie! First
thing I did was buy a Trident color card......
Dama
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 00:47:45 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <cstrik.isg@hetnet.nl>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Running FRACTINT in WIN95
>FWIW, the system where i got Fractint running on NT4
>at 640x480 is a HP Vectra VE, and it has an integrated
>video controller, reported by the control panel as SiS 6205
>from SiS Corporation, with 1 MB of video memory.
>
>When using NT, I set it on 1024x768x256. I just set up a
>shortcut to FRACTINT.EXE and voila !
No results yet on how it could work -- and I'm afraid I won't get any :-(.
Eeks! Integrated SiS 6205. D'you also have your video memory placed in the
14/15-16M memory hole? This is not unusual for these systems. I knew a system,
an IBM Aptiva something, with Mwave (beuh...) and also integrated SiS 6205. It
snooped my real memory for video purposes. At that system, the video mem could
also be set to two MB. If you have this possibility, it may well be useful (of
course if you're willing to sacrifice another meg of ram :) ). It should at
least make higher res/color depth possible.
Christian
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 00:51:42 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <cstrik.isg@hetnet.nl>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Running FRACTINT in WIN95
I just wrote:
[snippy-snippy-snip]
>No results yet on how it could work -- and I'm afraid I won't get any :-(.
>
>Eeks! Integrated SiS 6205. D'you also have your video memory placed in the
... [snip-snip-snip-snip-snip-snip-snip-... oops! almost snipped carrier :) ]
Sorry. The message was intended to be sent to Miguel only, not to the list.
Christian
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 22:19:04 EDT
From: <JimBeau549@aol.com>
Subject: (fractint) 22 more pars (jm03&jm04)
Here's more eye-candy! Enjoy~
Jim
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colors=000TG0XM0ZMB<8>zaIzaIvcLzeP<4>zoZzq`zqbzsdzqbzo`zm`zjXzhUzfI<2>z_\
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 03:26:52 EDT
From: <JimBeau549@aol.com>
Subject: (fractint) 5 pars (jm06)
Gee this is fun....I'm having a blast!! <g> Enjoy~
Jim
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***********
jm06n001 { ; image(c) JimWeaver 8/19/98 T=0:01:16.90 P-75 800x600
; jacco212.map
reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=Jm_06
function=log/acosh/cosxx passes=t
center-mag=-1.80602/-6.21725e-015/0.1879699/1/-90 params=100/0
float=y maxiter=25 inside=epsiloncross potential=255/255/0
colors=000L0C<20>407603602601510<48>uiRwjSviR<26>SD4QB3RC4<18>aTNbUOcWQ<\
13>wwuyyxyyx<30>yyxnof<18>2B53B64B7<32>pbNqcNseO<23>N2D
}
jm06n002 { ; image(c) JimWeaver 8/19/98 T=0:01:23.32 P-75 800x600
; jacco212.map
reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=Jm_06
function=recip/acosh/cosxx passes=t
center-mag=-0.0211501/-5.77316e-015/0.4027062/1/-90 params=100/0
float=y maxiter=25 inside=epsiloncross potential=255/255/0
colors=000T9F<3>N2DL0CK0C<19>407603602601510<48>uiRwjSviR<26>SD4QB3RC4<1\
8>aTNbUOcWQ<13>wwuyyxyyx<30>yyxnof<18>2B53B64B7<32>pbNqcNseO<18>UBF
}
jm06n003 { ; image(c) JimWeaver 8/19/98 T=0:01:03.39 P-75 800x600
; jacco212.map
reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=Jm_06
function=cotan/acosh/cosxx passes=t
center-mag=-0.538097/-3.55271e-015/0.3164557/1/-90 params=100/0
float=y maxiter=25 inside=epsiloncross potential=255/255/0
colors=000C09<9>407603602601510<48>uiRwjSviR<26>SD4QB3RC4<18>aTNbUOcWQ<1\
3>wwuyyxyyx<30>yyxnof<18>2B53B64B7<32>pbNqcNseO<23>N2DL0CK0C<8>D09
}
jm06n004 { ; image(c) JimWeaver 8/19/98 T=0:00:39.99 P-75 800x600
; jacco212.map
reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=Jm_06
function=cotanh/acosh/cosxx passes=t
center-mag=-0.778595/-2.22045e-015/0.3571429/1/-90 params=100/0
float=y maxiter=25 inside=epsiloncross potential=255/255/0
colors=000FMF<4>2B53B64B7<32>pbNqcNseO<23>N2DL0CK0C<19>407603602601510<4\
8>uiRwjSviR<26>SD4QB3RC4<18>aTNbUOcWQ<13>wwuyyxyyx<30>yyxnof<12>IOH
}
jm06n005 { ; image(c) JimWeaver 8/19/98 T=0:00:27.79 P-75 800x600
; jacco212.map
reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=Jm_06
function=exp/acosh/cosxx passes=t
center-mag=-0.401338/-6.21725e-015/0.1879699/1/-90 params=100/0
float=y maxiter=25 inside=epsiloncross potential=255/255/0
colors=000D84<40>uiRwjSviR<26>SD4QB3RC4<18>aTNbUOcWQ<13>wwuyyxyyx<30>yyx\
nof<18>2B53B64B7<32>pbNqcNseO<23>N2DL0CK0C<19>407603602601510<6>C73
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 04:09:15 EDT
From: <JimBeau549@aol.com>
Subject: (fractint) Need e-mail address for JaccoBurger
Does anyone know Jacco Burgers' e-mail address? I want to thank him for the
colormaps I've been using recently. I can be reached at my e-mail address
directly or through the list. Thanks in advance~
Jim
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:16:07 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <cstrik.isg@hetnet.nl>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Need e-mail address for JaccoBurger
Jim wrote:
> Does anyone know Jacco Burgers' e-mail address? I want to thank him for
the
>colormaps I've been using recently. I can be reached at my e-mail address
>directly or through the list. Thanks in advance~
Sure. It's Jacco.Burger@kabelfoon.nl
Christian
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 05:21:53 EDT
From: <JimBeau549@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Need e-mail address for JaccoBurger
Thank you Christian. I appreciate the help! Take care~
Jim
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 06:58:21 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <Paul.N.Lee@Worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 5 pars (jm06)
JimBeau549@aol.com wrote:
>
> Gee this is fun....I'm having a blast!! <g> Enjoy~
>
I think you've set a new record.
Posting 47 PARs in under twenty hours!!!
Now to see if I've got the time to view everything.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 08:21:04 EDT
From: <JimBeau549@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 5 pars (jm06)
Lee,
I hope 47 pars in under 24 hrs isn't too many for the list. I'll slack up a
little. :( Actually, they may take longer to view than it takes to draw them.
If a fractal's gonna take longer than 10 mins, it usually doesn't get a chance
to finish drawing around here. I guess I'm just too impatient. <g>
Take care~
Jim
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:27:50 EDT
From: <Damascena@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 5 pars (jm06)
You know, I would love it if you could send me your .par files as an attached
file (the way you did with the Opinion images and a couple other batches).
When I copy them from e-mail something happens in the translation -- makes me
crazy -- I have to go in and edit them, not always successfully, to have them
work in Fractint.
Dama
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:53:47 EDT
From: <Damascena@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 5 pars (jm06)
Uh-oh! List, I'm sorry. I intended this to go personally to James Weaver.
However, if anyone has a fix-it for the problem I described in the post,
please let me know. I'm tired of not being able to use .par files.....
Dama
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:24:36 -0700
From: kathy roth <kroth@well.com>
Subject: (fractint) getting pars to fractint
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Dama wrote
> However, if anyone has a fix-it for the problem I described in the post,
> please let me know. I'm tired of not being able to use .par files.....
>
There are a variety of things that can go wrong
in the par files. I struggled with this for several
months last year and saved most of the posts
about it, so I can send them to anyone who
wants them. Here are most of the problems:
1) lines cut in wrong place- check that there
is a \ at the end of a line that breaks a color map
etc. If the line is complete e.g. "passes=1"
you don't need the \.
2) There should not be double spaces in the
par or frm.
3) In the color maps there are runs like
"aaaaaa<ggg>kkkkkkk" The line break
with the \ should not come in the middle
of the <ggg>.
4) There was a problem with =3D
that does not affect Jim's or other recent
posts.
5) I have been using PFE, programmer's
file editor which works great for this. You
just save it as whatever.par or whatever.frm.
I think if you are using wordpad you have to
save it as "whatever.par".
6) Are you sure you have the formula for
the par in question?
E-mail me if you want the collection of posts
but it's kind of long.
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Dama wrote
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<PRE>However, if anyone has a fix-it for the problem I described in the post,
please let me know. I'm tired of not being able to use .par files.....</PRE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>There are a variety of things that can go wrong
<BR>in the par files. I struggled with this for several
<BR>months last year and saved most of the posts
<BR>about it, so I can send them to anyone who
<BR>wants them. Here are most of the problems:
<P>1) lines cut in wrong place- check that there
<BR>is a \ at the end of a line that breaks a color map
<BR>etc. If the line is complete e.g. "passes=1"
<BR>you don't need the \.
<P>2) There should not be double spaces in the
<BR>par or frm.
<P>3) In the color maps there are runs like
<BR>"aaaaaa<ggg>kkkkkkk" The line break
<BR>with the \ should not come in the middle
<BR>of the <ggg>.
<P>4) There was a problem with =3D
<BR>that does not affect Jim's or other recent
<BR>posts.
<P>5) I have been using PFE, programmer's
<BR>file editor which works great for this. You
<BR>just save it as whatever.par or whatever.frm.
<BR>I think if you are using wordpad you have to
<BR>save it as "whatever.par".
<P>6) Are you sure you have the formula for
<BR>the par in question?
<P>E-mail me if you want the collection of posts
<BR>but it's kind of long.</HTML>
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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 08:37:51 +1200
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <packrat@nznet.gen.nz>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 5 pars (jm06)
At 06:58 19/08/98 -0500, you wrote:
>JimBeau549@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Gee this is fun....I'm having a blast!! <g> Enjoy~
>>
>
>I think you've set a new record.
>
>Posting 47 PARs in under twenty hours!!!
>
Indeed; I was starting to suspect we have an artistic AI subscribed to
thekind of list :-)
No offence intended.
Morgan
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 16:53:45 EDT
From: <CRaZYm69@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) getting pars to fractint
I think I have the same problem as Dama but I think it has something to do
with AOL's mail. If anyone finds out what to do about this let me know too
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:10:15 -0700
From: "Faye Williams" <arkangel@sb.net>
Subject: (fractint) web page
I finally have a web page. Please visit and let me know what you think.
Comments good or bad - are welcome.
http://www.sb.net/arkangel/
Faye
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:08:08 EDT
From: <RParracho@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) getting pars to fractint
>I think I have the same problem as Dama but I think it has something to do
>with AOL's mail. If anyone finds out what to do about this let me know too
crazym69,
I had a lot of problems of this sort but not anymore. All I do is maximize
(this I think puts all the line ending where there supposed to be instead of
line wrapping) my mail read window then cut and paste into a notepad/wordpad
document thats open. For some reason when you save your posted mail straight
to a file, depending on what your preferences are it may put lots of junk into
your par file. I hope this easy fix works for you.
Rui
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:16:33 EDT
From: <RParracho@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) web page
In a message dated 19-08-98 5:14:23 PM EST, arkangel@sb.net writes:
> I finally have a web page. Please visit and let me know what you think.
> Comments good or bad - are welcome.
>
> http://www.sb.net/arkangel/
>
> Faye
>
Nice Image on your home page. Loaded fast.
I really liked the voting in your gallery page. Ecellent touch!
I didn't see where to download any of you images...
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 16:29:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ken Childress <kchildre@uccs.jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: (fractint) web page
>
> I finally have a web page. Please visit and let me know what you think.
> Comments good or bad - are welcome.
>
> http://www.sb.net/arkangel/
I cannot see any images. I'm running Netscape 4.0 on NT 4.0.
Ken...
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:35:34 -0400
From: Barry Bluestein <barryblue@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Running FRACTINT in WIN95
Dean-Christian Strik wrote:
> I just wrote:
>
> [snippy-snippy-snip]
>
> >No results yet on how it could work -- and I'm afraid I won't get any :-(.
> >
> >Eeks! Integrated SiS 6205. D'you also have your video memory placed in the
> ... [snip-snip-snip-snip-snip-snip-snip-... oops! almost snipped carrier :) ]
>
> Sorry. The message was intended to be sent to Miguel only, not to the list.
>
> Christian
No problem D-C.
I'm still trying to figure out Fliguer.
I wonder if the former WFW311 install has an effect on this? Could Miguel's
system be exiting out to true DOS?
I certainly don't see how his video h/w sub-system (ancient or otherwise) could
be involved.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 16:49:34 -0700
From: "Art Baker" <art@ayb.com>
Subject: RE: (fractint) web page
Hi Ken:
Looks great I like it!
Art
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 1998 4:29 PM
> To: fractint@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: (fractint) web page
>
>
> >
> > I finally have a web page. Please visit and let me know what
> you think.
> > Comments good or bad - are welcome.
> >
> > http://www.sb.net/arkangel/
>
>
> I cannot see any images. I'm running Netscape 4.0 on NT 4.0.
>
>
> Ken...
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:09:50 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <wizzle@beachnet.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) web page
Faye Williams wrote:
>
> I finally have a web page. Please visit and let me know what you think.
> Comments good or bad - are welcome.
>
> http://www.sb.net/arkangel/
>
> Faye
Faye...
I can't see any of the thumbnails either. When I look at your html code
it see backslashes rather than foreslashes.....you might have a relative
versus absolute reference problem. Also, although the link from the
thumbnail seems to go properly to a page, the larger image is also
missing.
Angela
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:02:47 -0400
From: Paul DeCelle <PaulDC@prodigy.net>
Subject: (fractint) First Posting
This is my 1st posting - I've been enjoying the dialogue and all the new
PARS for the past few days. Picked up a couple Fractint tips, too; I
only wish I'd subscribed sooner..
I too, have a Fractint site at
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Cafe/3905/welcome.html
Any feedback/suggestions would be greatly appreciated..
I'm still sorting out the best way to set things up to keep download
times reasonable. So far, having seperate pages with up to ten or so
thumbnails on each seems to work out best.
Please bear with the pop-up adverts - It's the price you pay for 11 megs
of free server space <G>
Regards,
Paul DeCelle
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 20:04:33 -0700
From: "Art Baker" <art@ayb.com>
Subject: RE: (fractint) First Posting
Hi Paul:
Nice site. I like it
Art Baker
http://fractal.cc
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 1998 7:03 PM
> To: fractint@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: (fractint) First Posting
>
>
> This is my 1st posting - I've been enjoying the dialogue and all the new
> PARS for the past few days. Picked up a couple Fractint tips, too; I
> only wish I'd subscribed sooner..
>
> I too, have a Fractint site at
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Cafe/3905/welcome.html
>
> Any feedback/suggestions would be greatly appreciated..
>
> I'm still sorting out the best way to set things up to keep download
> times reasonable. So far, having seperate pages with up to ten or so
> thumbnails on each seems to work out best.
>
> Please bear with the pop-up adverts - It's the price you pay for 11 megs
> of free server space <G>
>
> Regards,
> Paul DeCelle
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