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fractint-digest         Thursday, May 21 1998         Volume 01 : Number 214




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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:10:15 EDT
From: SKarl52884 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint):;protocol

OK...{duh} ....no I see why....
How about after the (fractint)?
(fractint): = frm
(fractint); = par
(fractint):; = frm +par

Steve

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:19:51 EDT
From: SKarl52884 <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint)/ \\\ protocol visibility  1 frm + 3pars

Sorry....too mich coffee:
I'm just testing the visibility of possibilities for codes in subject line.

/ = frm
\ = par
\\= 2 pars
//\\\\\\    etc.

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:31:48 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Filtering E-mail

Eudora Light 3 (this is the free version) can filter messages.  Its
filtering features are more limited than the Pro (pricey) version, but it's
sufficient to do the job.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs)
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:36:50 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: (fractintCODE) Subject line protocol

SKarl,

 - One thing is always the same in the subject line.
 -                       (fractint)

That's because the mailing list software (Majordomo) puts it there if it
isn't already present.  If you put something between the t and ) then
Majordomo won't see that as (fractint) and it will just insert (fractint)
back into the subject line.

If you want to put something on the subject line, it's going to have to be
outside the (fractint) part.

Damien M. Jones   \\
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                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:06:35 -0700
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) time consumption

Here's an idea- I am spending a huge amount of time cutting
and pasting pars and correcting the little errors. So is everyone
else.  I don't want to wait for the end of the month to download
it from Les's site (Thanks for doing that, Les!) because I like to see
what
people have done and said in response to other people's work.
What if a number of people who are adept at editing the pars took
turns collecting them and posting them every few days?  I tend to save
them and do them every few 4 or 5 days anyway.  The only problem
I can see with that is then you'd have a large frm file and  large
par file under a date rather than under individual names and you would
have to index it in some way to find things later.
        As much as it seems there are a very large number of postings to

this list, in fact I can skim through and delete lots of messages very
quickly.  It's getting it into Fractint that takes the time.



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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:24:43 -0600
From: Ray Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) MIRC?

        To the Kind & Merciful,

        I know it has been posted, probably a couple of times, but I have
just spent at least a half hour sorting through a mountain of papers trying
to find where I put it.  And that is, how to get that MIRC program that
allows you to chat.
        If anybody can post it again for me, I'd appreciate it - but ask
that you use dunderhead terminology,  nothing technical and  nothing that
presumes I know anything about 'bring up this- or that" (beyond watching our
puppy throw-up after getting up on the table and finishing off a bag of
potato chips).
        Thanks in advance.
                                        Ray


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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:57:13 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) MIRC?

Ray Montgomery wrote:
>
> ......, how to get that MIRC program that allows you to chat.
>

Try the following website:

      http://www.geocities.com/~mirc/

You may get the ICQ from the following:

      http://wwp.mirabilis.com/

P.N.L.

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 19:21:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Barnsley Petals Formula

In the Petals_Barnsley1 formula, the line that reads:

    index_factor = colors_in_range / (r2 + r2)

should read:

    index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / (r2 + r2)

I'm sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Paul Carlson



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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 19:23:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) Spirals Formula

I've always been fascinated by spirals.  Spirals have been used
as religious symbols back to the dawn of humankind.  Spirals
occur frequently both in nature and in fractals.  In nature,
spirals occur whenever growth must take place in a limited space.
In fractals, they also occur where space is limited.


comment {
This formula applies my Truncated 3D Stalks rendering method
to a set of spiral-producing equations.  All five of the spirals
are very different from one another.  Enjoy!

Paul Carlson
}

frm:Spir2_Trunc {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
    ;
    ;   p1       = Julia set coordinates
    ;   real(p2) = a factor controlling the width of stalks
    ;   imag(p2) = max. |w| for stalks (truncation value)
    ;   real(p3) = number of color ranges
    ;   imag(p3) = number of colors in a range
    ;
    w = pixel
    c = p1
    z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0
    stalk_width = real(p2)
    max_wm = imag(p2)
    num_ranges = real(p3)
    colors_in_range = imag(p3)
    index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / stalk_width
    :
    w = w * w - c, wr = real(w), awr = abs(wr)
    w = w - wr + awr
    awr = abs(real(w)), awi = abs(imag(w))
    IF (awr <= awi)
    dist = awr
    ELSE
    dist = awi
    ENDIF
    ;
    IF (dist < stalk_width && |w| < max_wm && iter > 1)
    z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1
    bailout = 1
    ENDIF
    range_num = range_num + 1
    IF (range_num == num_ranges)
        range_num = 0
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0  && |w| < 4
}

aztec_spir         { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirals.frm
  formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1
  center-mag=-0.307039/0.406097/6.666667/1/-27.498
  params=-0.378083004695/0.227300793319/0.03/0.1/2/125
  float=y maxiter=20000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=0000W2<123>080zz0<123>aG0000<3>000
  }

bifurc_spir        { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirals.frm
  formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1
  center-mag=-0.247437/0.451841/14.50284
  params=-0.392126738/0.227791005/0.025/0.2/8/30
  float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=0000zz<28>0CC0zz<28>0CCz88<28>O00z88<28>O000zz<28>0CC0\
  zz<28>0CCz88<28>O00z88<28>O00000<13>000
  }

quilted_spir       { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirals.frm
  formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1
  center-mag=-0.280438/0.449687/13.33333
  params=-0.404509412207/0.197380074739/0.1/0.08/2/125
  float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000zqa<123>WRFz88<123>O00000<3>000
  }

spiral_2way        { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirals.frm
  formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1
  center-mag=-0.363167/0.309344/8.503401
  params=-0.321397740595/0.047469531482/0.03/0.05/8/30
  float=y maxiter=30000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000zy0<28>aG0z0f<28>O080zz<28>0CCzW0<28>c40fOz<28>I0K0\
  zR<28>0C4z88<28>O00GGz<28>00O000<13>000
  }

trunc_spir         { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirals.frm
  formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1
  center-mag=0.179656/-0.304697/19.1022
  params=0.642814531455/0.062304266806/0.05/0.1/8/30
  float=y maxiter=30000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000fOz<27>J1MI0KGGz<28>00Oz88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>a\
  G00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCz0f<28>O08000<13>000
  }


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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 20:33:06 -0400
From: "RJ Corradino" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) MIRC?

Ok...first off, you can download it at www.mirc.com .

Now...when you run the program, login to the server us.undernet.org .  When
you are on that server, a dialogue box will pop up asking you what channel
you want.  This box will also have a section to store your favorite
channels, with quite a few chans already stored in.  You can add or delete
whatever you like.  We will be in #fractals , I think.  I also suggest you
stop by #mirchelp if you ever need help learning the program(or ask me :-))

Have fun!  IRC is almost as addicting as fractint!


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Date: Wed, 20 May 98 18:46:30 PDT
From: Colleen Johnson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint)newbe needs video mode

Hello davides
At 3:09 p.m. 5/18/98 you wrote:
>Watching this thread...just out of curiosity, what is your monitor set =
at?

I don't have a "Control Panel/Display/Settings" area in my Program Manage=
r, if that is what you were referring to.  Is that a Windows '95 thing? =
I have Windows 3.1.  I have a "Control Panel" area, but it doesn't have =
a "Display" option anywhere that I can find.
Thanks anyway!

Colleen


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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 19:05:41 -0700
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint):;protocol

> From: SKarl52884 <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (fractint):;protocol
> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 11:10 AM
>
> OK...{duh} ....no I see why....
> How about after the (fractint)?
> (fractint): = frm
> (fractint); = par
> (fractint):; = frm +par
>

Please use what saves as a filename in DOS!

These emails I save straight to disk with the subject
automatically becoming the filename.  Then I can sort
them in File Explorer and process in some way. Now
if you put colons and such in there as significant
symbols, they disappear when saving.

Besides, the (fractint) is put on by the server, so how
would we post? Looks like I would post a par file like
this (for the title)

par Neato fractal I just found

then it would show up as

(fractint)par Neato fractal I just found

which would work and follow up as
Re: (fractint)par Neato fractal I just found

which we would have to edit out the par before reply
like this
Re: (fractint) Neato fractal I just found

unless we added in a new par in reply but then someone
would think we just forgot to delete the 'par' part.

Oh my, I'm beginning to feel like that guy I posted about
in the 388kB mpeg file....
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/Badday.zip
where he on a at work surveillance camera smashes his computer!


Jay


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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 22:59:37 -0400
From: "RJ Corradino" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) time consumption

It isn't a bad idea, but I hate to ask folks to do that.  I think it's very,
VERY nice of Les to collect them for us, and it's wonderfly useful for me-
makes it much easier to learn fractint using old collections from past
months.

I do agree though, at the end of the month I can never remember what went
with what.  Les, I wonder if you'd be able to link to the proper posts in
the archives(perhaps as a comment, or in the index)?  It's very nice to
reread the origional post- and see how this particular image was made.  I
think I'd learn a lot from this!

For now, I'm sort of giving up on checking out pars as they come out.  I
just can't keep up w/ you guys lol.  I'll sort try out one or two a day that
sound cool, and wait for the monthly motherload...

BTW, just so I don't sound like the laziest guy on the planet...I'm
disabled(muscular dystrophe).  I get very tired very quickly, and certain
things on the computer do exhaust me.  Any time I need to use the mouse and
keyboard at once(like pasting in pars)...  Thank you all for understanding.
:)

> Here's an idea- I am spending a huge amount of time cutting
> and pasting pars and correcting the little errors. So is everyone
> else.  I don't want to wait for the end of the month to download
> it from Les's site (Thanks for doing that, Les!) because I like to see
> what
> people have done and said in response to other people's work.
> What if a number of people who are adept at editing the pars took
> turns collecting them and posting them every few days?


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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 22:10:10 -0500
From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PAR: 3 Julias @ z^3+c

Julia_01           { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998
  reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1
  center-mag=-7.10543e-015/3.55271e-015/0.05760475
  params=-0.1183700973176474/-0.7963490925176476/3/0 float=y
  maxiter=750 bailout=100 bailoutest=and inside=maxiter logmap=yes
  invert=0.338/0/0 biomorph=175 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0
  viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=zz0D0P<8>407zzz<15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12>808zzz<15>\
  Kg0Lj0Nn0<12>470zzz<15>e04h05<13>301zzz<15>90eA0h<13>206zzz<15>sW0wZ0<13\
  >850zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020wwx<14>E0SF0UH0X<2>E0R cyclerange=1/1
  }

Julia_02           { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998
  reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1
  center-mag=-1.13687e-013/1.13687e-013/0.008052434
  params=-0.5397674556108939/-0.4227889945646643/3/0 float=y
  maxiter=750 bailout=100 bailoutest=and inside=maxiter logmap=yes
  invert=0.5/0/0 biomorph=-132 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0
  viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=000DBK<8>JGTKHUKHT<27>111000000000<3>000011032<27>Amc<25>25514312\
  2000000000000000<16>XgcZje`mhbpjdsmAmc<14>297265133000000000<3>000000001\
  102<40>b0xc0zb0y<32>202000001<17>CAJ cyclerange=1/1
  }

Julia_03           { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998
  reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1
  center-mag=-3.41061e-013/1.7053e-013/0.004455947
  params=0.1601734369444931/-0.8112967918412282/3/0 float=y
  maxiter=750 bailout=100 bailoutest=and inside=maxiter logmap=11
  invert=0.5/0/0 biomorph=202 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0
  viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=000Q0`00sN0X00lK0T00eH0O00ZE0K00SB0G00L80B00E507007203000z00000z3\
  0000z70000zB0000zF0000zJ0000zM0000zQ0000zU0000wT0000tS0000qQ0000nP0000kN\
  0000hM0000eK0000bJ0zz0_I0vx0XG0qs0UF0lm0RD0gh0OC0bc0LA0YZ0I90ST0F80NO0C6\
  0IJ0950DE0630880320330000Fy3000Fv3000Er3000Dn3000Cj3000Bf3000Ab20009Z200\
  08V20007S20006O20005K10004G10003C1000281000141000<2>000Q0`000N0X000K0T00\
  0H0O000E0K000B0G00080B000507000203000z00<20>zc0<9>000zy0<10>bc0_`0YZ0VW0\
  TU0<10>000Fy3<30>121000000<31>000 cyclerange=1/1
  }

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 20:49:09 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: (fractintCODE) Subject line protocol

I find it simple to sort my email by hand.....has never taken more than 10
mins.....but that's on day's I read first...then sort.  On sort days I can do it
in less time.  And since the program in my head filters perfectly, I don't have
to re-sort cause the old algorithm put stuff in the wrong folder.

Angela aka "low tech" wizzle

SKarl52884 wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-05-20 13:04:04 EDT, you write:
>
> "everything else" group we can
> > divide it up further later...
> >
> <<  Simplify. Simplify. Simplify.
>   >>
>

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:06:43 -0400
From: "Peter Gavin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Spirals Formula

Wow, that's really cool... But tell me, how does it (the stalks method) =
work?  (That is, how can I apply it to my own formulas?)

Pete
<[e-mail]>


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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:19:42 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol

Ian wrote:

> My personal vote is that we not immediately attempt to separate out so
> many categories of posts. Start with just isolating PARs and FRMs, and if
> we still have too much volume in the "everything else" group we can
> divide it up further later...

Let's go a step farther toward simplicity, and include PAR in all caps in the
subject line of any message that has *either* PARs and Formulas in it. There's
no need at this point in separating them. Then anyone who cares and has a
sorting mail client can sort the PAR messages to a different place.

Of course whether you actually use the header to sort your list in this way is up
to you.

Everybody have it? Include PAR in the subject of messages that have FRMs or
PARs.

Tim


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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:21:31 -0400
From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 5 Carlson formula pars

Here are 5 pars of Paul's latest formula. I hope you enjoy them.

Gedeon

************************************************

gp-spt-01          { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 20, 1998
                     ; Formula by Paul Carlson
                     ; Color map by Paul Carlson
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm
  formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1
  center-mag=0.298033/-0.540761/33.14359/1/-29.999
  params=-0.498/0.21/0.19/0.27/2/125 float=y maxiter=20000
  inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=0J0z88<123>O00zzz<123>VVV000<3>000
  }

gp-spt-02          { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 20, 1998
                     ; Formula by Paul Carlson
                     ; Color map by Paul Carlson
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm
  formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1
  center-mag=0.384877/-0.417948/10.63724
  params=-0.418/0.1111/0.21/0.15/2/125 float=y maxiter=20000
  inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000zz0<123>aG0zzz<123>VVV000<3>000
  }

gp-spt-03          { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 20, 1998
                     ; Formula by Paul Carlson
                     ; Color map by Paul Carlson
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pcarlson.frm
  formulaname=spir2_trunc passes=1
  center-mag=-0.415609/0.487062/3.698636/1/-147.5
  params=-0.444/0.127/0.305/0.115/8/30 float=y maxiter=5000
  inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=0000zz<28>0CC0zz<28>0CCz88<28>O00z88<28>O000zz\
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:26:52 -0500
From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol

Tim wrote:
>
>
> Everybody have it? Include PAR in the subject of messages that have FRMs or
> PARs.
>

I beat you to it by two hours. See my msg at 22:10. 8-)

Bob

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:59:04 -0400
From: "Peter Gavin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol

Some mail readers are real anal (like outlook 98) and dont let you make =
2 separate rules... Well, I mean, I'm trying to make it so that messages =
with ONLY '(fractint)' in the subject to one folder, and messages with =
'(fractint)' and 'PAR' to another, but the problem is, you only have one =
space for the subject entry, so I have to put '(fractint) PAR' or =
whatever, but it HAS to have exactly that, one space, same order, and =
everything.  Not '(fractint) Blah blah blah PAR'.  That won't work.  I =
suggest the standard be something more elaborate (to help out the idiots =
like me :) who use OL98) such as '(fractint)PAR' (i.e. one word) so as =
not to be confused by OL98 or any other emailers, yet still pass by =
majordomo untouched.  (That would mean you'd have to manually type in =
'(fractint)' though...)

Pete
<[e-mail]>

//  -----Original Message-----
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//  Sent: Thursday, May 21, 1998 12:27 AM
//  To: [e-mail]
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// =20
// =20
//  Tim wrote:
//  >=20
//  >=20
//  > Everybody have it? Include PAR in the subject of messages=20
//  that have FRMs or
//  > PARs.
//  >=20
// =20
//  I beat you to it by two hours. See my msg at 22:10. 8-)
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:33:17 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol

> I beat you to it by two hours. See my msg at 22:10. 8-)

Yeah, but I'm the all powerful List Czar. As the Umpire says, "It ain't a strike
until I call it." :-)

I'm sure the "PAR in headers" proposal won't work for everyone, but I know it
will work for Pegasus.

Tim


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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:15:31 +0100 (BST)
From: Jerry Fox <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol

Tim wrote:

> Let's go a step farther toward simplicity, and include PAR in all caps in the
> subject line of any message that has *either* PARs and Formulas in it. There's
> no need at this point in separating them. Then anyone who cares and has a
> sorting mail client can sort the PAR messages to a different place.
>
> Of course whether you actually use the header to sort your list in this way is up
> to you.
>
> Everybody have it? Include PAR in the subject of messages that have FRMs or
> PARs.
>
> Tim

A suggested mod: since I use Pegasus, I already have a filter in
place for 'fractint' in the subject, so how about replacing 'PAR'
with 'FPAR' (for Fractint Par).  This could then be a separate filter
applied before 'fractint', and would be unlikely to occur in mail
from any other list (I subscribe to a couple of others).

Jerry Fox

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 22:32:43 -1000
From: "Shauna Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Filtering E-mail

On 20 May 98 at 14:31, Damien M. Jones wrote:

> Eudora Light 3 (this is the free version) can filter
> messages.  Its filtering features are more limited than
> the Pro (pricey) version, but it's sufficient to do the
> job.

Pegasus Mail's filtering runs rings around Eudora Pro's -
and it's free. <G>

Another blast of bits from David
Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/
Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/
For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:02:26 -1000
From: "Shauna Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list!

On 20 May 98 at 8:59, Ian Kaplan wrote:

> I don't know if Pegasus or Eudora can do this-
> actually, I'd be pretty

Pegasus can. Can't say about Eudora - gave up on it two
years ago.

Another blast of bits from David
Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 12:27:31 +0100
From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: (fractintCODE) Subject line protocol

>option two:
>
>(fractint)= no pars or prms
>(fractint:)=frm included
>(fractint;)=par included
>(fractint:;)=par and frm included
>


Terrible. On my monitor, i have to go to about two inches from the screen to
see the difference between (fractint) (no pars/frms) and (fractint:) (frm
included).

Christian




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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 12:36:05 +0100
From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list? Not this time!

>PAR: Three designs based on a Paul Carlson formula. In this example, PAR
>is used once as an introduction and not in the Subject.
>FRM: Three variations on gravijul. Again, a one-time use of a string.
>MAP: Six metallic-looking palettes. Ditto on the string useage,
>substituting palette for map in the subject.
>HELP: Please explain periodicity. For those who don't want to read the
>fractint.doc.
>DISC: Is it necessary to port Fractint to Windows? DISC=discussion.
>HARD: Fractint doesn't work with my video card. For hardware-related
>problems.
>MISC: For other on-topic matters that don't fall into the above
>categories. Art shows, making posters and T-shirts using fractal images,
>suggestions for further Fractint improvement (as if it needed any), etc.


TEST: For test mails.

Christian

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 18:17:34 +0100
From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Split the list!

MAksoy wrote:

<snipped>
>With PARs on a
>separate list, they could be explicitly identified by subject title and
would
>be more efficiently located in the daily rush of incoming email.
>

Of course I don't know what e-mail reader you use, but e-mail programs like
Outlook Express offer the ability to split your inbox in different
mailboxes. I personally use 15 inboxes (Including fractint, fractdev and
fractal-art) to keep some order.

Christian




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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 18:03:59 +0100
From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Calc method

Cliff wrote :


//  >>Speaking of Microsoft's spell checker, try this out:  Go into
//  Word, type
//  >>'zzzz' and spell-check it and see what's really on Bill Gates' mind.

The dutch version of the ms spell checker delivered with office 97 dutch
does the same.

Christian Strik





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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 18:22:45 +0100
From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 19.6 hangs on 0-length parfiles

Paul D. wrote:

>Seems there's a quite serious, overlooked bug in Fractint v19.6 accessing a
>0-length PAR file. A 0-length par file shows up in the list of PARs from
>hitting @, but if you select it, it won't say "No entries available" or
>anything such, instead the par-selection screen will shift up a line and
>Fractint will silently hang. Further keypresses are eaten (the keyboard
buffer
>doesn't fill up and start beeping) and each one makes the screen scroll a
line,
>but it seems to be stuck in an infinite loop. Occasionally it will, after
>minutes of sitting at the hung screen, spontaneously burp and print a red
box
>claiming the file doesn't exist, then resume normal activity, but usually
the
>only recourse is the Vulcan nerve pinch.

This bug doesn't occur on my pcs running fractint 19.6.

Christian




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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 07:52:47 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) MISC: Subject line protocol

I'm just curious...won't putting PAR in the subject line also filter out all of
the replys to the par?

Angela



Tim Wegner wrote:
>
> > I beat you to it by two hours. See my msg at 22:10. 8-)
>
> Yeah, but I'm the all powerful List Czar. As the Umpire says, "It ain't a strike
> until I call it." :-)
>
> I'm sure the "PAR in headers" proposal won't work for everyone, but I know it
> will work for Pegasus.
>
> Tim
>
>

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