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fractint-digest        Thursday, April 16 1998        Volume 01 : Number 167




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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:19:05 +1200
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Colouring books rot the mind

I might as well come right out and say it: I'm not that good at palette
design. I'm practising when I can, but I have a very long way to go.

The two pars below look good enough to me to be going somewhere, but I'm
not up to the task of finding out just where. What I humbly request is
that someone with a better sense of colour that mine look them over and
see what they could do with them. I'd love to see the results - I can't
help wondering what they'd look afterwards.

Failing that, just consider them to be two pars with bland colour
schemes.

Failing that, take the two formulas as my gift.

Morgan


Working1           { ; What to do with this?
                     ; Sort of an Escher-like "Circle Limit" thing
  reset=1950 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=lambdafroth4m function=floor/floor passes=t
  center-mag=-3.33067e-016/2.22045e-016/2.73224 params=0/0/0/0 float=y
  maxiter=1023 inside=255 potential=255/400/200 invert=0.5/0/0
  colors=@lyapunov.map
  }

Working3           { ; What to do with this?
                     ; Something in pastels, maybe?
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Uc03
  function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.637998/-0.447214/1.572327
  params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255
  colors=000222111000000000<28>nnnpppssssss<29>222000000<27>XXXYYYZZZ`````\
  `ZZZ<28>111000000<34>666666555<25>000000111<26>HHHIIIIIIIII<26>222
  }

frm:lambdafroth4m(XYAxis){
bailout=(4*(|p2|<=0)+p2)
z=lambda=pixel:
z=lambda*z-lambda/z
z=lambda*z-lambda*fn1(fn2(z))
|z|<=bailout}
}

frm:Uc03{; = 2z(2z-1)U02-U01
         ;Prerelease 16/04/1998
t=p1,bailout=4,z=pixel:
x=real(z),y=imag(z)
ax=4*x-2,ay=4*y-2
Tx=fn1(ax*(ax*ax-2))
Ty=fn1(ay*(ay*ay-2))
x=x-t*Ty,y=y+t*Tx
z=x+flip(y)
|z|<=bailout}



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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:28:46 +1200
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Another Text Editor - NOT!

At 23:40 15/04/98 -0700, Jay Hill wrote:
>PFE (Programmer's File Editor)  :-)
>
<Snippage>
>
>I think I will
>stick with PFE, thank you.
>
I am in full agreement with this. PFE is without a doubt the most-used
application on my system. The only thing it doesn't have that I dislike not
having is pattern matching - searching and replacing on regular expressions.

Oh,
>5) NotesPad ignored end of lines in HTML files giving you either one
>long line to edit or (with line wrap) an unformatted screen full.  PFE
>showed an ASCII file with normal lines (as in the original file) ready to
>edit.
I guess PFE would also have showed "Unix" down in the end-of-line indicator
box instead of DOS, then.

Morgan



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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:58:19 -0400
From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Colouring boo

Morgan,

>>The two pars below look good enough to me to be going somewhere, but I'=
m
not up to the task of finding out just where. What I humbly request is
that someone with a better sense of colour that mine look them over and
see what they could do with them. I'd love to see the results - I can't
help wondering what they'd look afterwards.

Working1           { ; What to do with this?
                     ; Sort of an Escher-like "Circle Limit" thing
  reset=3D1950 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D*.frm
  formulaname=3Dlambdafroth4m function=3Dfloor/floor passes=3Dt
  center-mag=3D-3.33067e-016/2.22045e-016/2.73224 params=3D0/0/0/0 float=3D=
y
  maxiter=3D1023 inside=3D255 potential=3D255/400/200 invert=3D0.5/0/0
  colors=[e-mail]
  }

Working3           { ; What to do with this?
                     ; Something in pastels, maybe?
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D*.frm formulaname=3DUc03
  function=3Dlog passes=3Dt center-mag=3D-0.637998/-0.447214/1.572327
  params=3D0.1/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D1023 inside=3D255
  colors=3D000222111000000000<28>nnnpppssssss<29>222000000<27>XXXYYYZZZ``=
```\
  `ZZZ<28>111000000<34>666666555<25>000000111<26>HHHIIIIIIIII<26>222
  }

frm:lambdafroth4m(XYAxis){
bailout=3D(4*(|p2|<=3D0)+p2)
z=3Dlambda=3Dpixel:
z=3Dlambda*z-lambda/z
z=3Dlambda*z-lambda*fn1(fn2(z))
|z|<=3Dbailout}
}

frm:Uc03{; =3D 2z(2z-1)U02-U01
         ;Prerelease 16/04/1998
t=3Dp1,bailout=3D4,z=3Dpixel:
x=3Dreal(z),y=3Dimag(z)
ax=3D4*x-2,ay=3D4*y-2
Tx=3Dfn1(ax*(ax*ax-2))
Ty=3Dfn1(ay*(ay*ay-2))
x=3Dx-t*Ty,y=3Dy+t*Tx
z=3Dx+flip(y)
|z|<=3Dbailout}
<<

How about:

colors1            { ; for Morgan Owens's working1
  colors=3D000000<12>b0Ee0Ff5I<10>zzs<7>fV7cQ0`O0<2>SI0<6>P60<2>G00<4>0Qc=
<6>\
  8bcAdcDed<11>tupxwrzyt<7>ylDxj2wiK<3>vc4ua0ub3<3>vhJviNvjPwkR<7>zwu<13>=
w\
  CM<44>zk0<3>0kk<2>WgD<3>CXF<7>KSDLSDMRCOQBORAOPA<3>OE6NB5PC6<7>eLAhMBiO=
D\
  <3>nVJ<3>vdByg8yh5<28>3T50S60O6<5>000
  }

colors3            { ; for Morgan Owens's working3
  colors=3D000hALjFPlLS0xz<18>w00<11>D58<8>6zU<17>zyt<7>zzD<22>zwu<13>wCM=
<7>\
  H84<12>hMB<14>H84FB3PG3<6>zk0<3>0kk<2>WgD<3>CXF<7>KSDLSDMRCOQBORAOPA<3>=
O\
  E6NB5PC6<7>eLAhMBiOD<3>nVJ<3>vdByg8yh5yi3<15>zE6<2>lNCgQFeNDbJA<12>F730=
0\
  0000<12>b0Ee0Ff5I
  }

Lee Skinner


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Date: 16 Apr 1998 15:42:54 +0200
From: Brederlow <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) how 'bout a deep-zoom contest

[e-mail] writes:

> On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Lavondyss wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Sylvie Gallet wrote:
> >
> > > >> is anyone interested in an M-set deep-zoom contest?
> > >
> > >   NO, PLEASE!  Not deep-zooms!!!  I don't want to tie up my computer with
> > > those - generally boring - images, and I don't want to download them (my
> > > phone bill is already way too high...).
> > >
> > >         - Sylvie
> >
> > Deep zooming would be very nice indeed. However, for those of us who do not
> > have the newer computers would have a heck of a time trying to render them.
> > I"m running 100Mhz and it takes forever for some deep-zoom fractals.
>
> Ha... at 180Mhz it takes too long.  They probably _can_ be interesting,
> though... there's a whole page of them that you can access from the main
> Fractint site.
>
> Justin K.

180 MHz? You already lost.

I calculated an image with 90 digits precision over a period of 56
days on my amiga (~P133 speed) some time ago. Some hours ago I dug out
the par and recalculated it on my universities computer pool using a
devide and conquer method. It took a few minutes to calculate there,
because of the better algorithms (SOI) and pure computational power of 50
computers. So now I'm deep zooming again. Its a very good way to test
computer speed and the correctness and speed of once math library. :)

May the Source be with you.
            Mrvn

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Date: 16 Apr 1998 15:46:09 +0200
From: Brederlow <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) how 'bout a deep-zoom contest

[e-mail] (Paul Derbyshire) writes:

> >
> >>> is anyone interested in an M-set deep-zoom contest?
> >
> >  NO, PLEASE!  Not deep-zooms!!!  I don't want to tie up my computer with
> >those - generally boring - images, and I don't want to download them (my
> >phone bill is already way too high...).
>
> Since the list dopesn't allow binaries, they'd be submitted by some other
> method... a.b.p.f or maybe FTP to someplace someone sets up for the
> purpose. (The latter, preferably, since my newsfeed doesn't pick up a.b.p.f.)

I have some space for ftp (>100 MB) where I could put some images and
bins if needed.

May the Source be with you.
            Mrvn


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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:08:57 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Colouring books rot the mind

Hi Morgan,

>> The two pars below look good enough to me to be going somewhere, but
>> I'm not up to the task of finding out just where. What I humbly
>> request is that someone with a better sense of colour that mine look
>> them over and see what they could do with them. I'd love to see the
>> results - I can't help wondering what they'd look afterwards.

sg-colors1         { ; For Morgan Owens's Working3
                     ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Apr 16, 1998
                     ; <[e-mail]>
  colors=3D000ud0<13>SF7LF7E07707018011023035<21>FczIcz<11>zzz<5>Z9pV9k<2=
>Q9\
  XP9RN9ML8GPBG<3>gRH<6>zz2wy5<2>rwCpwFmvG<15>2eZ<3>eoC<7>ww4zy2zy3<15>zu=
Q\
  <4>Ywu<18>2_y0Yz0Ro<3>KFG<5>NY9<7>aI9<6>OC6<4>HMIGOKFQL<8>2hV0kX1jV<6>C=
Y\
  HEWFFWEGVEHUE<5>622<12>_I8aJ9cK9eLAfNAhQB<7>xmFzpGznE<4>u`1TJ1000
  }

sg-colors3         { ; For Morgan Owens's Working3
                     ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Apr 16, 1998
                     ; <[e-mail]>
  colors=3D00A<12>002011023035<21>FczIcz<11>zzz<5>Z9pV9k<2>Q9XP9RN9ML8GPB=
G<3\
  >gRH<6>zz2wy5<2>rwCpwFmvG<15>2eZ<3>eoC<7>ww4zy2zy3<15>zuQ<4>Ywu<17>4`y<=
7\
  >KIF<4>NY9<7>aI9<6>OC6<4>HMIGOKFQL<8>2hV0kX1jV<6>CYHEWFFWEGVEHUE<5>622<=
1\
  2>_I8aJ9cK9eLAfNAhQB<7>xmFzpGzp8zo0<2>zh0ze1zb1z_2z_2<4>zO4
  }

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:04:58 -0400
From: "Brian E. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Colouring books rot the mind

Here are some colors for Morgan's "Working" pars.

bj-working1a       { ; Colors for M. Owens's Working1             t=00:00:58.22
                     ; [e-mail]
                     ; on a P233-MMX at 1600x1200
  colors=063yxr<9>Jdt<22>xnrzoqzoo<13>sgErfBreAre9<21>a23`02`02<8>_39_3A_3\
  AZ3A<61>000424<2>111000010<2>042052074<23>3VI4XJ4XL<3>4TT5SV5TW<15>8dj<1\
  7>zwz<12>yspyroyrnyrnysnysn<8>yxr
  }

bj-working1b       { ; Colors for M. Owens's Working1             t=00:00:58.22
                     ; [e-mail]
                     ; on a P233-MMX at 1600x1200
  colors=000www<14>9FGAGIBHJCIL<2>9FG9EF8CE7BD6AB<5>234122011000100300<21>\
  l00q50<10>zg0<11>W00FJU<13>W`xXazXbv<13>`y4`z0`z4<13>`pv`oz`pv<11>`yC`y8\
  `z4`z0`y3<14>Xaw<27>347235223112000<24>000Mhz<23>R00<6>0ww<2>hww
  }

bj-working3        { ; Colors for Owens's Working3                    t=00:04:15.62
                     ; [e-mail]
                     ; on a P233-MMX at 1600x1200
  colors=00076G59G3CG0FF<9>0oo<7>mm0<6>zyn<6>mm0<6>b60`00Y00<8>70000000007\
  0<12>0oo<7>`Fz<7>U00<8>zz0<8>7Mw<7>0zz<7>0D70702A4<12>`oz<3>Rak000<13>80\
  0900B00<10>Z00<6>mm0<5>zyn<6>mm0<6>0Z0<8>070000007<11>7Px<7>mm0<5>zyn<4>\
  oo8mm0ki6<6>YJpWFwUDr<7>93G
  }

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:06:13 -0500
From: "Jon Camp" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Feedback requested :)

I hate to make look like an advertisement for a webpage but in a sense it
is. My roomate and I (both college freshmen) are constructing a webpage that
will have a large fractal database of software, images, pars... but before
we go any farther we want to know what other people think. Is is too slow,
unorganized.... Both of us have been huge fans of fractint ever since we
were old enough to type so we figured that wouldn't constitute anmything too
anoying :)

thanks,
    Jon and Ben

chaotic n-space network
http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/index.html


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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:01:08 EDT
From: SKarl52884 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Feedback requested :)

nice looking page
quick enough for me

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:28:52 -0500
From: "Paul Derbyshire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) how 'bout a deep-zoom contest

An Amiga with P133 speed?!?!

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:39:35 -0700
From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Colouring books rot the mind

Hi, Morgan!

I'm not certain what you are looking for in a colormap.  But if I were
creating one to my tastes, I'd probably use one of these:

Worklla1           { ; Fractal by Morgan Owens; colormap by Linda Allison
                      ; Sort of an Escher-like "Circle Limit" thing
reset=1950 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
formulaname=lambdafroth4m function=floor/floor passes=t
center-mag=-3.33067e-016/2.22045e-016/2.73224 params=0/0/0/0 float=y
maxiter=1023 inside=255 potential=255/400/200 invert=0.5/0/0
colors=00A01B23E36H69L8DQ<3>MZoQdvRexObrK_lGWeCS`00A12D35G59K8DPBIV<2>LZ\
nPcuRfxOcrK_mHWfDTa9PV12C34F58K7CPBHVEN`HSgLYnPbtSgy<2>HXgEUbAPW7NS24F47\
J7BOAGT<4>Sgz<4>AQX7NS5LO46I7BNAGTDL_<3>SgzPduL`oIYhEUcBQY<2>3JL6AM9FS<4\
>RfyPduMaoIYiFVdBRY8OU6MP4JM2HJ9ERCKY<3>RexQdvMap<3>8OU7MQ4KM2IJ1HHCJX<3\
>QewQew<3>CS_9OV7NR5KN<2>0GGG0GG1IH2KI5NK8RMBVOF_<2>WTpYYvYYw<3>GGYG1HH2\
JI5MK7QMBUOE_<2>VSpYXvZZx<4>CCSG1JI4LK7PLAUOEZQJcSNjVSoYWuZZyVVrQQlMMd<2\
>99NI3LJ6PLATNDY<4>__z<2>MMfII_DDU99O66JJ6OL9S<3>VRnXVs__z<3>II`EEUAAP77\
J44FL9RMCX<4>ZZyXXu<3>FFVBBP77K44G22DMCW<4>ZYxXXv<3>FFWBBQ88L<2>11BOF`RK\
f<2>ZYvYYvUUpPPiKLbGGXCCR88M66I33F22C00A
}

Worklla2           { ; Fractal by Morgan Owens; colormap by Linda Allison
                      ; Sort of an Escher-like "Circle Limit" thing
reset=1950 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
formulaname=lambdafroth4m function=floor/floor passes=t
center-mag=-3.33067e-016/2.22045e-016/2.73224 params=0/0/0/0 float=y
maxiter=1023 inside=255 potential=255/400/200 invert=0.5/0/0
colors=000000000000<20>omq<21>363040020000<7>J00M00M00<44>zUFzUFyTF<19>g\
G8fF8fF8fF8<27>sOBsOBtPCtQD<22>vunwwpvyr<22>lNDkLBkLBkKAkKA<4>nTJoVLpYN<\
12>zxnzwl<5>uj_tgYtfX<10>mQJ000000000
}

Worklla3            { ; Fractal by Morgan Owens; colormap by Linda Allison
                    ; Something in pastels, maybe?
reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Uc03
function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.637998/-0.447214/1.572327
params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255
colors=www<9>www<15>500<11>T01V02W12X22<7>hB1jD0kE1<10>vTDxVFwTE<5>lG4jD\
2hC2<5>X31V10U10<95>301301412<76>vvv
}

Worklla4            { ; Fractal by Morgan Owens; colormap by Linda Allison
                    ; Something in pastels, maybe?
reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Uc03
function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.637998/-0.447214/1.572327
params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255
colors=45Fkzz<12>fzzfzzdxy<14>0Lb<14>056033244<18>ddd<12>01C<10>mmr<9>01\
C<10>mmr<7>KKT45F<13>45F<9>ddd<12>033<14>0J_0Lb2Nc<14>fzz<29>ozzozzpzzqz\
z<5>xzzzzzyzz<4>rzzpzzpzz<16>kzz
}

Linda

PS  If you want to see something really different, checkout the colormap
Bob Margolis used in the contest.  Great!!

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> From: Morgan L. Owens <[e-mail]>
>
<snipped>
>
> The two pars below look good enough to me to be going somewhere, but I'm
> not up to the task of finding out just where. What I humbly request is
> that someone with a better sense of colour that mine look them over and
> see what they could do with them. I'd love to see the results - I can't
> help wondering what they'd look afterwards.
>
<snipped>
>
>
> Working1           { ; What to do with this?
>                      ; Sort of an Escher-like "Circle Limit" thing
>   reset=1950 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
>   formulaname=lambdafroth4m function=floor/floor passes=t
>   center-mag=-3.33067e-016/2.22045e-016/2.73224 params=0/0/0/0 float=y
>   maxiter=1023 inside=255 potential=255/400/200 invert=0.5/0/0
>   colors=@lyapunov.map
>   }
>
> Working3           { ; What to do with this?
>                      ; Something in pastels, maybe?
>   reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=Uc03
>   function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.637998/-0.447214/1.572327
>   params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255
>
colors=000222111000000000<28>nnnpppssssss<29>222000000<27>XXXYYYZZZ`````\
>   `ZZZ<28>111000000<34>666666555<25>000000111<26>HHHIIIIIIIII<26>222
>   }
>
> frm:lambdafroth4m(XYAxis){
> bailout=(4*(|p2|<=0)+p2)
> z=lambda=pixel:
> z=lambda*z-lambda/z
> z=lambda*z-lambda*fn1(fn2(z))
> |z|<=bailout}
> }
>
> frm:Uc03{; = 2z(2z-1)U02-U01
>          ;Prerelease 16/04/1998
> t=p1,bailout=4,z=pixel:
> x=real(z),y=imag(z)
> ax=4*x-2,ay=4*y-2
> Tx=fn1(ax*(ax*ax-2))
> Ty=fn1(ay*(ay*ay-2))
> x=x-t*Ty,y=y+t*Tx
> z=x+flip(y)
> |z|<=bailout}
>


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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:49:23 -0700
From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Feedback requested :)

A little slow, but I stuck around for the show!  Nice images!
Linda

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> From: Jon Camp <[e-mail]>
> To: Fractint <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (fractint) Feedback requested :)
> Date: Thursday, April 16, 1998 12:06 PM
>
>My roomate and I (both college freshmen) are constructing a webpage that
> will have a large fractal database of software, images, pars... but
before
> we go any farther we want to know what other people think. Is is too
slow,
> unorganized.... Both of us have been huge fans of fractint ever since we
> were old enough to type so we figured that wouldn't constitute anmything
too
> anoying :)
>
> thanks,
>     Jon and Ben
>
> chaotic n-space network
> http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/index.html


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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:12:10 EDT
From: SKarl52884 <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Rescue: poke'n'hope

I discovered fractint by accident, and at this point have a basic
understanding of the
software but there are some areas that i don't understand.
I need a clue as to how to apply the information I'm seeing in this exchange.
     Example: Where do I enter the color information? Comand line???
                                                  a formula???            ???
thanks
SK


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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:20:38 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Another Text Editor - NOT!

Jay,

TextPad has just about all the features you mentioned, except the extended
history.  Textpad also has a spell checker, file comparison, regular
expression matching, smart indenting, macro ability, extensive
customization... very very little is missing from this program.

I don't want to start a text editor war either--so when you say "you'll
never use another editor after trying PFE" that seems like you're begging
for an advocacy war. :)  You may miss things from PFE while using NotesPad,
but for some people it may be just what they're looking for.  The nice
thing is, there is enough variety that everyone can find one they *like*.
I liked TextPad enough to register it, a few versions ago.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs)
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:47:32 -0700
From: Angela <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Another Text Editor - NOT!

Jay Hill wrote:
>
> > From: Blake Hyde <[e-mail]>
> >Seems to be a lot of interest, but I haven't seen "NotesPad" by BremerCorp
> >mentioned.  This one does everything that those mentioned so far will do...
> ...
> > I have a goodly number of editors reviewed at my (main) web site:
> >       www.connectu.net/bhyde
> > I also welcome any additions to the ratings and reviews.
>
> You will scrap you review page and list only one editor after you try
> PFE (Programmer's File Editor)  :-)
>

Jay...

I downloaded PFE and immediatly decided it was not for me. It wanted me
to read documentation BEFORE I installed it and actually had the gall to
ask me questions during the installation. The nerve!!!  How am I
supposed to know what I want before I see it?

PFE sounds like a dream come true for programmers who need to write in
unix, linex, linus, unicorn and other foreign languages.  Someone like
me who only cuts and pastes pars and frms can be happy with much less.
Personally I'm perfectly happy with WordPad (write.exe in the win
directory).

Angela

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:47:43 EDT
From: SKarl52884 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Another Text Editor - NOT!

In a message dated 98-04-16 22:36:37 EDT, you write:

<< PFE sounds like a dream come true for programmers who need to write in
 unix, linex, linus, unicorn and other foreign languages.  Someone like
 me who only cuts and pastes pars and frms can be happy with much less.
 Personally I'm perfectly happy with WordPad (write.exe in the win
 directory).

 Angela
  >>
Relativity is a reality for sure. If i coud get someone to share the "how to"
to cut and paste { paste to where ????... I know its funny....but I really
don't know } I'd be gratefully reassured that the boundries of artistic
expression are not limited by a mathamatical mind set... but.... generously
enhanced by same.
Steve

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:24:13 -0700
From: Angela <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Feedback requested :)

Jon....

You have to understand that I absolutely and positively loathe frames
but that I think you did a very nice job with them!!!!

Stats about me first...then feedback (so you know how I am viewing your
pages).

1.  I run Communicator 4.04
2.  My monitor is 19"
3.  I'm set at 1154 x whatever resolution
4.  I'm in California connected via a 28.8 service
5.  My processor is 266Mhz
6.  I viewed your page at 8:15PM pdt

Feedback...

1. good download time - almost instantaneous even
2. your largest graphic appears to be 29K (i never use anything larger
than 35K).....and you didn't go nuts with too many....kudos
3. first impression....excellent....nice graphics set and no stupid web
tricks
4.  good navigation tools
5.  although the main page appears to be set for 640 x 480 and therefore
had lots of empty space on my large screen, it still looked
good......the content pages are perfect
6.  main page gave me an excellent idea of what your pages are all
about....love it!!!!

All in all I'd guess you've been reading articles on web style as well
as learning html.  Nice job....you demonstrate a real feel for the
medium.

Angela aka wizzle

Jon Camp wrote:
>
> I hate to make look like an advertisement for a webpage but in a sense it
> is. My roomate and I (both college freshmen) are constructing a webpage that
> will have a large fractal database of software, images, pars... but before
> we go any farther we want to know what other people think. Is is too slow,
> unorganized.... Both of us have been huge fans of fractint ever since we
> were old enough to type so we figured that wouldn't constitute anmything too
> anoying :)
>
> thanks,
>         Jon and Ben
>
> chaotic n-space network
> http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/index.html
>
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:16:15 -0700
From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: gravijul4

At 10:09 PM 4/15/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Regrettably I lost more precise documentation on the second formula. I
>believe it is Mark Christenson's own variation, but I cannot be sure. I
>would like to be corrected if I am wrong.
>...
>frm:gravijul4 { ;variation of a Mark Christenson frm
>...

Nope, not mine.  I know the original post is around here
somewhere, but with 652 messages in my Fractint mailbox
it's hard to find...


Bud

P.S.: since I'm taking the time to write, here's a par.

gja1-09            { ; "Chrome Dragon", (c) Bud 4/9/98
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=budz.frm formulaname=gravijul-a1
  function=sin/recip/atanh passes=t
  center-mag=0/0/3.217179/1/8.4
  params=1/0.175/-0.1/2/4/4 float=y maxiter=151 inside=111
  outside=real decomp=256
  colors=0kz<7>0_k0Zi0Yh0Xf1We<18>JLMKKKLKK<18>d`LeaLgbMicN<8>zsX<6>mgQkeP\
  idOhcN<20>LL1KK0LK0<18>d20e10g00i00<8>z00<8>i00g00f00e11<18>MJJKKKLLL<24\
  >iiijjjlllnnn<2>sss<3>llljjjiiihhh<23>LLLKKKKKL<13>7R_6S`5Ta4Ub3Vc<3>1Zi\
  1_k1am0bo0dq<3>0jy cyclerange=0/255
  }

frm:gravijul-a1 { ; generalized r^(-2) by Mark "Bud" Christenson 3/6/98
; defaults: p1 = (1,0) p2 = (0,1) p3 = (1,4)
  q4 = real(p2)
  q2 = p1
  q1 = imag(p2) ; new knob 1
  q3 = real(p3) ; new knob 2
  q5 = imag(p3) ; bailout
   z = pixel:
   v = fn1(z)
   w = q1*(v*v)
   z = q3*fn3(q2/fn2(w)) + q4
    |z| < q5
  }


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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:34:14 -0700
From: Angela <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Rescue: poke'n'hope

Welcome to the list SK!!!!

I have tutorial information about Fractint posted at my webpage

http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractalintro.htm

However, more direct information regarding your specific questions is
available and as I recall Janet Preslar posted a very nice list of
websites with links to tutorial info just a bit back.  Her url is

http://www.parkenet.org/jp/fractvty.htm

You might try emailing Janet to get the list.

Angela aka wizzle

SKarl52884 wrote:
>
> I discovered fractint by accident, and at this point have a basic
> understanding of the
> software but there are some areas that i don't understand.
> I need a clue as to how to apply the information I'm seeing in this exchange.
>      Example: Where do I enter the color information? Comand line???
>                                                   a formula???            ???
> thanks
>

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:52:40 -0700
From: Angela <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Colouring books rot the mind

Morgan L. Owens wrote:
>
> I might as well come right out and say it: I'm not that good at palette
> design. I'm practising when I can, but I have a very long way to go.
>

Morgan....

"Not good at palette design" is no excuse these days!!!! Click your way
over to

http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractint_maps/newmaps.htm

and get all the great color maps folks submitted in the format of your
choice. If you are patient with downloads and stick to my organization
scheme, you will have no problems at all with color. Just make separate
folders in your fractint directory for each of the map types and unzip
them there.  Then, when you have a color challenge....try a map from
each folder to get a feel for how your image responds to the various map
types. When you've determined that.....browse thru the maps in the
folder to find the ideal combo. You will find very quickly that some map
types leave your image looking dead and that others bring it alive.
That is why I bothered with the organization in the first place...it is
based on the technical construction of various maps.  I've learned
oodles from studying Paul Carlson's and Sylvie's maps for ideas and, of
course, Linda got me started color wise. Have you checked her
tutorials???

End of soapbox........try these pars for a start

Working3_wiz1      { ; wizzle 4/16/98
                     ; galaxy1.map
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=apr98.par formulaname=uc03
  function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.637998/-0.447214/1.572327
  params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255
colors=A0agFM<4>K0A<4>D0UB0Y80e<3>20u00z01v<5>69V7AQ6BO<3>2ID0KA0MC<14>0\zm<15>0AK<5>4AE5AE7AD<3>DAAFA9HCA<18>zza<10>00A<12>D67F76I76<14>z00<10>K\0A<6>N0S<4>00z<13>W0_Y0YY0Y<14>U3UU3UT3TS3S<14>00A<13>J8KL9LN8N<12>k1km0\mn2l<10>zRV<2>lIO
  }

Working3_wiz2      { ; wizzle 4/16/98
                     ; julia7.map which is based on a Paul Carlson map
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=apr98.par formulaname=uc03
  function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.637998/-0.447214/1.572327
  params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255
colors=000ZFA<2>K0U<13>wrz<15>0II<13>0zz<11>0GG0CC07J11Q<14>mmz<13>K0K<1\5>rhz<11>K0KO08<15>zcm<11>W9AU67R34O00Q11<14>zzm<12>O00000<13>000c40<14>\xjizmmyjj<8>iFCgC8gE8<3>fM8eO9gRC<10>xwizzmywj<10>cK4
  }

p.s. I am temporarily using Netscrape as a mail client.....it doesn't
appear to handle cut and paste any too well...sorry in advance if the
pars turn into garbage or need editing

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:59:06 -0700
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: gravijul4

>Regrettably I lost more precise documentation on the second formula. I
>believe it is Mark Christenson's own variation, but I cannot be sure. I

>would like to be corrected if I am wrong.
>...
>frm:gravijul4 { ;variation of a Mark Christenson frm
>...

I also have gravijul4 and can't figure out who
wrote it. (Speak up and take credit for it!)
This is a good reason to always put your
name on the first line. As a newbie I felt
pretentious or egotistical putting my name there
but with so many pars and frms saved it's important
to know who wrote what.


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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:11:00 -0700
From: wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Question about posting PAR's

Jon...

Your par looked great!! Very nice image and it worked perfectly for me,
par wise. I liked your colors.

Angela aka wizzle

Jon Camp wrote:
>
> Hi! This my first time posting to the list and I want to make sure that any
> PAR's i post are done in the correct manner. Is the best method just to copy
> and past the PAR into the email? Thanks!

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:14:29 -0700
From: wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Colouring books rot the mind

<<snipped>>
>
> Failing that, just consider them to be two pars with bland colour
> schemes.
>
> Failing that, take the two formulas as my gift.
>
> Morgan
>
<<snipped>>

Morgan...

Those were very nice images...here is my second set of re-colors

Working1_wiz1      { ; wizzle 4/16/98
                     ; galaxy2.map
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=apr98.par
  formulaname=lambdafroth4m function=floor/floor passes=t
  center-mag=-3.33067e-016/2.22045e-016/2.73224 params=0/0/0/0 float=y
  maxiter=1023 inside=255 potential=255/400/200 invert=0.5/0/0
colors=00A5DK<2>2IC0K90MB<14>0zl<15>0AJ<2>09H09H08G07G<10>00906E0CJ<7>zw\
b<5>LPOEJL7DI07F009<21>F75<2>_00<12>z00w00<9>K09<6>N0R<4>00y<14>Y0X`0Va3\
W<14>xwj<14>eEC<3>A09<9>I7GJ8HK9J<14>k1jm0ln2k<5>tFavKZ<2>zRU<5>Z9GP3CK0\
9<11>20t00y01u<5>69U7AP6BN
  }

Working1_wiz2      { ; wizzle 4/16/98
                     ; laser3.map
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=apr98.par
  formulaname=lambdafroth4m function=floor/floor passes=t
  center-mag=-3.33067e-016/2.22045e-016/2.73224 params=0/0/0/0 float=y
  maxiter=1023 inside=255 potential=255/400/200 invert=0.5/0/0
colors=000I0k<6>Y0Y`0Wa3X<14>xwk<15>cAA<6>K8AH7AH7B<5>K9KL9LN8N<12>k1km0\
mn2l<5>tFbvK_<2>zRV<8>K0A<11>20u00z01v<5>69V7AQ6BO<3>2ID0KA0MC<14>0zm<15\
>0AK<5>4AE5AE7AD<3>DAAFA9HCA<18>zza<6>jjTggSffSeeR<11>CCAAA9997<3>_00<12\>z00<10>K0A<6>N0S<4>00z<6>G0m
  }

Appologies again to those who have to edit these pars. My kid will be
installing Eudora for me this weekend and then I can get back to real
cut and paste instead of cut...paste....edit...pray...curse!!! Netscrape
is NOT ideal for this list.

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