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fractint-digest         Friday, March 27 1998         Volume 01 : Number 146




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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:46:13 -0000
From: Edward Avis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Use of Fractal Images

[about selling fractal-based needlework products]

>>My questions to all those in Fractal-Land, what would YOU do in this
situation??  Is a needlework product of one's fractal image infringement of
>>ownership rights, or is it a seperate interpreted image??  Should there
be equitable compensation for the use of such image/s, or would just the
>>acknowledgement of the originator be sufficient??

>Push for compensation or demand that they stop using your work.

Hold on a minute, what about the Fractint authors?  Surely they deserve
something too?

Lots of people have created Fractint and contributed new pars and formulas,
allowing them to be distributed free of charge, because that way, the
community as a whole benefits, and people can freely improve upon others'
work.

Whatever fractals you did generate, I am sure you wouldn't have been able
to without relying on code, formula files, colour maps, and inspiration
provided by others.  Of course you have a right to slap a restrictive
"licence" on your images if you want to, but perhaps you should consider
giving back your work free of charge, as others have before you.

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:08:12 -0700 (MST)
From: Kerry Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Use of Fractal Images

> >Push for compensation or demand that they stop using your work.
>
> Hold on a minute, what about the Fractint authors?  Surely they deserve
> something too?

[snippage]

> --
> Ed Avis
> [e-mail]
> http://members.tripod.com/~mave/index.html

Strictly speaking, they don't deserve anything *in the context of this
thread*.  (In general, they of course deserve our thanks, praise, and
spare change!)  Images that are produced with a tool are the property of
the artist, not the toolmaker.  Just like Adobe can't claim copyright on
anything done with Photoshop, or Grumbacher can't claim copyright on
anything painted with one of their brushes.  Tim et al have repeated made
clear the difference between Fractint, which is copyrighted by the Stone
Soupers, and the images produced using Fractint, which are owned by the
individual artists.  Otherwise, Kodak, Fuji, and Agfa would own all
photography, Microsoft would own all poetry written using Word, etc.

Kerry Mitchell

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:13:36 -0500
From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) combo6c4

It seems as if my combo6 post has gotten mangled even though my copy comes
back just fine. One more try - with different map. Paul . Lee's maps were
good - especially combo6c3.

combo6c4           { ; A variation of a variation of a formula by Linda A.
                     ; David Shanholtzer, 1998
                     ; Color map: Dav24
                     ; cycle for effect
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=051597-002-m1-m2-m function=sin/sin passes=1
  center-mag=9.715e-006/1.0165e-005/0.6666712 params=20/10 float=y
  maxiter=2000 inside=maxiter outside=summ decomp=256
  colors=olnqprsrt<29>M22K00L00<14>a00c00b00<13>M00K00K00<23>c00c00b00<20>\
  K00000<106>000Q73<2>M21K00L11<26>pnp
  }



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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:13:39 -0500
From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Use of Fractal Images

At 08:50 AM 3/27/98 -0600, you wrote:

[Run, do not walk, to that needlework company, and advise them of your
ownership.]

{{Be careful here.  The copyright is clearly yours, but remember that the
needle pointer is both a fractal enthusiast, and consciences enough to ask
Paul for permission.  They even closed with:
"I feel I must defer to you as the 'owner' and accept your wishes in this
matter."
IOW, try not to offend or discourage someone who seems to be doing something
creative and original with fractals.}}

I have to disagree; you may want to re-read what I wrote.
I have no objection to _personal_ usage of my fractals (Others feel
differently). However, when it comes to selling them, that is an entirely
different matter and enters a completely new area. Re-read the following
portions of my previous post:

"... We have covered this before; personally, for personal usage I would
have no objection, but as I learned from reading up on the copyright laws,
even that can be considered an infringement. _For sale_ is an entirely
different matter. Consider the reaction  of, say, the Walt Disney company
if someone were to start needleworking images of Mickey and selling
them...Or likewise, the Boy
Scouts, or Coca Cola, and so on...but this should be enough said."

"... And advise the person that this would be better settled with a
three way written contract (if there is such a thing) between you, the
needlework company, and her/him."

IOW, when an individual begins selling patterns of someone elses' original
art work, regardless of being an enthusiast, it has become a business
arrangement.
If someone wants to do something creative and original with one of my
tinkerings, such as making personalized stationery for private/personal
use, fine. If that someone wants to sell it, I want a piece of the profits.
And if a company decides to start selling one of my tinkerings, that
company is going to pay me. (Now ask me if I expect that to happen...  :) )
With the real artists out there, this may become a good portion of their
possible income...

and re: another post:
>[about selling fractal-based needlework products]

{{Hold on a minute, what about the Fractint authors?  Surely they deserve
something too?}}

No. To quote from the docs:  "Fractint is freeware. The copyright is
retained by the Stone Soup Group." The program has/is being given away
free; the copyright belongs to the program itself, not what is created with
it. Consider a well known photographer, such as the late Ansel Adams (Name
correct?) Would Kodak be expected to be given a portion of the proceeds
from his extraordinary photographic artwork?

Besides, another quote from the docs: "Contribution policy: Don't want
money. Got money. Want admiration." (p.9)

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:18:00 -0500
From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Batch file??

I am sure no one on the list sent me a batch file and runbatch, but I
thought I would ask since after the last time I logged on I came up with
one of each in my d/l area. (Both deleted immediately...)

Anyone being helpful and sending me such in response to a couple of mangled
combo6 pars?
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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:42:20 -0800
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) convert fractint <-> photoshop colormap files

> From: Dan Goldwater <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> Subject: (fractint) convert fractint <-> photoshop colormap files
> Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 12:29 AM
>
> I wrote 2 little programs to convert between fractint .map and photoshop
> .act files.  that way with fractint after making a huge image which is too
> big to load into fractint, you can still change the colormap using photoshop
> to a different fractint .map file.
>
> i posted the source and binaries to news:sci.fractals

Shame! Please do not post binaries to sci.fractals.  There are binary news
groups.
Read the sci.fractals FAQ.

The best approach is put your binaries on a web site such as Spanky. Then post
a reference.

Jay


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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:55:30 -0500
From: "Peter Gavin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Batch file??

I posted both of those... I wrote them my self, but if you want a copy, I
can mail them directly to you...  I attached them because they were less
than a couple k-bytes total.

- -----Original Message-----
From: davides <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 1:18 PM
Subject: (fractint) Batch file??


|I am sure no one on the list sent me a batch file and runbatch, but I
|thought I would ask since after the last time I logged on I came up with
|one of each in my d/l area. (Both deleted immediately...)
|
[snip]

Pete
<[e-mail]>



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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:20:01 -0800
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Cosh flexball formula

> From: Paul and/or Joyce Carlson <[e-mail]>

> comment {
> Here's a formula and a couple of pars that apply my flexball
> rendering to the cosh() function.  The images are different
> than I'd expected, and kind of pretty.
>

Different indeed. One look at this midget....

fbcoshm2_midget    { ; Jay Hill, 1998
                     ; uses Paul Carlson's formula
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=mar98.par
  formulaname=flexballs_cosh center-mag=-1.0256/0/0.4/1/-90
  params=10/0/1/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253
  colors=000<11>cV0gY0j`0nc0lb0<14>AA0<206>c60d50c40000<10>000wcA000000
  cyclerange=1/240
  }

Jay


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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:39:11 PST
From: "Paul Derbyshire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Halley Nova!

Here are some formulas based on Halley's method, including
a Nova type with a surprising feature: it generates cubic
Mandelbrots!
A PAR is attached below the formulas.


- --- 8< --- Formula halnova.frm --- >8 ---

Halley_n { ; Halley applied to z^n-1, compare with builtin newtbasin.
           ; p1: n (may be complex).
           ; p3 real: orbit trap radius.
  n=p1, r=real(p3), z=pixel
  n2=2*n, n2pn=n*n+n, n2mn=n*n-n
  :
  zn=z^n
  zn1=zn-1
  z=z-n2*z*zn1/(n2pn*zn+n2mn),
  |zn1|>=r
}

Halley_n_r { ; Relaxed Halley applied to z^n-1, compare with builtin
newtbasin.
             ; p1: n (may be complex).
             ; p2: relaxation coefficient (may be complex).
             ; p3 real: orbit trap radius.
  h=p2, n=p1, r=real(p3), z=pixel
  hn2=2*h*n, n2pn=n*n+n, n2mn=n*n-n
  :
  zn=z^n
  zn1=zn-1
  z=z-hn2*z*zn1/(n2pn*zn+n2mn),
  |zn1|>=r
}

HalleyNova3J { ; HalleyNova Julia sets for z^3-1
               ; p2: Julia parameter
               ; p3 real: orbit trap radius.
  c=p2, r=real(p3), z=pixel
  n2=6, n2pn=12, n2mn=6
  :
  oz=z
  zn=z*sqr(z)
  zn1=zn-1
  z=z-n2*z*zn1/(n2pn*zn+n2mn)+c,
  |oz-z|>=r
}

HalleyNova3M { ; HalleyNova Mandelbrot set for z^3-1
               ; p3 real: orbit trap radius.
  c=pixel, r=real(p3), z=1
  n2=6, n2pn=12, n2mn=6
  :
  oz=z
  zn=z*sqr(z)
  zn1=zn-1
  z=z-n2*z*zn1/(n2pn*zn+n2mn)+c,
  |oz-z|>=r
}

HalleyNovanJ { ; HalleyNova Julia sets for z^n-1
               ; p1: n (may be complex).
               ; p2: Julia parameter
               ; p3 real: orbit trap radius.
  n=p1, c=p2, r=real(p3), z=pixel
  n2=2*n, n2pn=n*n+n, n2mn=n*n-n
  :
  oz=z
  zn=z^n
  zn1=zn-1
  z=z-n2*z*zn1/(n2pn*zn+n2mn)+c,
  |oz-z|>=r
}

HalleyNovanM { ; HalleyNova Mandelbrot set for z^n-1 (SLOW)
               ; p1: n (may be complex).
               ; p3 real: orbit trap radius.
  n=p1, c=pixel, r=real(p3), z=1
  n2=2*n, n2pn=n*n+n, n2mn=n*n-n, ns=n*n, ns1=ns-1
  :
  oz=z
  zn=z^n
  zn1=zn-1
  z=z-n2*z*zn1/(n2pn*zn+n2mn)+c,
  |oz-z|>=r
}

- --- >8 --- Parameter fil halnova.par --- 8< ---

5Julia_01          {
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=halnova.frm
  formulaname=HalleyNovanJ center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=5/0/-0.012/0.418/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=0
  logmap=yes
  colors=000zzz<44>PIIOGGOGG<36>000000100<81>y0bz0cz0cz1c<82>zzc
  }

2i_Mandelbrot      {
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=halnova.frm
  formulaname=HalleyNovanM center-mag=-3.91719/-0.102731/0.1039911
  params=0/2/0/0/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=16384 inside=0 logmap=yes
  periodicity=0 colors=000zzz<44>PIIOGGOGG<35>100000000000<167>z0c
  }

2i_Mandelbrot_1    {
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=halnova.frm
  formulaname=HalleyNovanM center-mag=-9.05587/4.76179/1.209199
  params=0/2/0/0/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=16384 inside=0 logmap=yes
  periodicity=0
  colors=000zzz<44>IIPGGOGGO<35>001000000000<5>012023203042<158>0zc
  }

2i_Mandelbrot_2    {
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=halnova.frm
  formulaname=HalleyNovanM center-mag=-9.29515/4.59143/5.257385
  params=0/2/0/0/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=16384 inside=0 logmap=yes
  periodicity=0
  colors=000zzz<44>PIIOGGOGG<35>100000000000<5>210320302420<158>zc0
  }

2i_Mandelbrot_3    { ; Cubic minibrot
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=halnova.frm
  formulaname=HalleyNovanM
  center-mag=-9.14491945460246900/+4.62714362164861500/105.1477
  params=0/2/0/0/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=16384 inside=0 logmap=yes
  periodicity=0 colors=000zzz<40>TGMSELSEL<49>413023204<158>c0z
  }

2i_Mandelbrot_4    {
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=halnova.frm
  formulaname=HalleyNovanM center-mag=-0.683591/-0.0275069/2.079822
  params=0/2/0/0/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=16384 inside=0 logmap=yes
  periodicity=0 colors=000zzz<40>EMTCLSCLS<48>134134320<159>cKz
  }

- --- 8< --- End --- >8 ---

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:05:24 -0800
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Halley Nova!

> From: Paul Derbyshire <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (fractint) Halley Nova!
> Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 12:39 PM
>
> Here are some formulas based on Halley's method, including
> a Nova type with a surprising feature: it generates cubic
> Mandelbrots!

Of course, Halley's method is cubic convergent.

halley-16          { ; Jay Hill
  ; a Halley sample
  reset=1960 type=halley
  center-mag=-0.89161328594620660/+0.18692934267262380/487.9161
  params=16/1/0.0001/0 float=y periodicity=0
  colors=000<3>000<11>kV7oY8s`9wcAq`B<4>\
  KKK<5>m0m<8>AAA<7>wU0<33>210000000\
  <170>000
  }

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:48:24 -0700
From: Rich Thomson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) sci.fractals

In article <[e-mail]> ,
    Peter Jakubowicz <[e-mail]>  writes:
> does anyone know what the deal w/ sci.fractals is? no more fractal posts --
> just mindless drivel, apparently by  nine-year olds w/ bad social skills.

It was never a high volume anyway.

People are abondoning usenet in droves because of spam problems --
either putting up with or filtering out posted spam, or dealing with
endless amounts of spam generated in one's mailbox as a result of
posting.  Consequently, people are abondoning usenet.  (I created
sci.fractals and I've abandoned it for that very reason.)  Plus a
number of mailing lists have sprung up over the past year or two and
generally new people to the 'net have an easier time dealing with
mailing lists than newsgroups.
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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:48:38 PST
From: "Paul Derbyshire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Halley Nova!

>Of course, Halley's method is cubic convergent.

It's still interesting to see that this makes the Nova derivation act
cubic. It seems that a cubic convergent method turns the roots into
critical points with multiplicity two...
Anyone know of methods with other convergence? (Quartic? Quintic?
Infinite?! Infinite would produce exponential-style Mandelbrots. One
Halley website did derive it from Taylor's formula of order 3, so maybe
if I took order 4...)


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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:49:57 -0700
From: Rich Thomson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Xfractint for AXP

In article <c=GB%a=TMAILUK%p=DCNET%l=[e-mail]> ,
    Edward Avis <[e-mail]>  writes:
> Where can I get xfractint precompiled for DEC Alpha?

AFAIK there aren't any precompiled xfractint's around.  Just download
the source and compile it.

> Will xfractint make use of multiple CPUs?

No, but there are a couple unixish freebie networked Mset renderers.
They are all lacking in features compared to fractint though.
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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:50:49 -0700
From: Rich Thomson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Xfract rpms

In article <[e-mail]> ,
    Felix <[e-mail]>  writes:
> Where can I get the latest XFractint RPM?

Well maybe if you explained what an "RPM" is someone might be able to
answer your question.  You can download xfractint source code from
<http://spanky.triumf.ca>
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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:04:30 -0800
From: Peter Jakubowicz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) how 'bout a deep-zoom contest

since a recent suggestion to have a coloring methods contest met with a
pretty much deafening silence, well, then damn the colors, full speed
ahead, is anyone interested in an M-set deep-zoom contest? there cld be two
winners: deepest zoom into the M-set and freakiest shape found. while I
imagine most people wld use Fractint, I guess an interesting option wld be
to allow people to use the program of their choice. come to think of it:
what is the definition of the deepest zoom? freakiest, I guess is
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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:11:06 -0600
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Xfract rpms

Rich,

 - Well maybe if you explained what an "RPM" is someone might be able to
 - answer your question.

RPM = Red Hat Package Manager, a method for distributing files to be
installed on UNIX systems.  RPM ships with Red Hat Linux, which you can buy
or download.  Generally I find it much easier to download and install an
RPM with pre-compiled binaries than to download, install, compile, and
troubleshoot source code. :)

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                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:20:36 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Paul Derbyshire)
Subject: Re: (fractint) combo6 (retry)

>
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WTF????


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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:39:27 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Paul Derbyshire)
Subject: Re: (fractint) how 'bout a deep-zoom contest

Interesting idea. I say full steam ahead!


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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:56:15 -0700 (MST)
From: Kerry Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) how 'bout a deep-zoom contest

Here's my deepest zoom par:

center-mag=0/0/1e1200

:-)

Seriously--I would suggest that a deep zoom contest be a "smallest midget"
contest in order to prevent such easy tricks like mine to weed through.

And how does one define "freakiest shape" anyway?  What is freaky?  What
is hip?  What's it all about, Alfie?  (insert other song cues here)

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On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Peter Jakubowicz wrote:

> since a recent suggestion to have a coloring methods contest met with a
> pretty much deafening silence, well, then damn the colors, full speed
> ahead, is anyone interested in an M-set deep-zoom contest? there cld be two
> winners: deepest zoom into the M-set and freakiest shape found. while I
> imagine most people wld use Fractint, I guess an interesting option wld be
> to allow people to use the program of their choice. come to think of it:
> what is the definition of the deepest zoom? freakiest, I guess is
> self-explanatory
>
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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:00:17 -0600
From: "Justin A. Kolodziej" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) how 'bout a deep-zoom contest

Peter Jakubowicz wrote:
>
> since a recent suggestion to have a coloring methods contest met with a
> pretty much deafening silence, well, then damn the colors, full speed
> ahead, is anyone interested in an M-set deep-zoom contest?

Sure... if the entries are due in about 10 years :-)

> there cld be two winners: deepest zoom into the M-set and freakiest shape found.

How about just "freakiest shape in the standard M-set at any zoom
level?"  Judging deep-zooms could take forever, unless entries are sent
as gifs.

It's a good idea in principle, but I'm concerned about the time
deep-zooms take.
I'd better start now. :-)

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:26:22 PST
From: "Paul Derbyshire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Spanky

What gives with Spanky? Pages load at a snail's pace today and then
there's this:

%>ping spanky.triumf.ca

Pinging spanky.Triumf.CA [142.90.112.1] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

%>


There's definitely something wrong here, unless the server's on the
moon...

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:54:52 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Copyright?

Ray wrote:
>         Quoting from the introduction to Fractint, (Fractint Homepage):
(Fractint legalese deleted)
>         Asterisks mine.  Does this have a bearing on the subject?
>                                         Ray

This has no bearing on the subject. That Fractint language just says,
we, the Stone Soup folks, claim a copyright on Fractint itself but
don't claim copyright for any new images you might create WITH
fractint.

The fractint program's legal language certainly does not mean that
fractal images made with fractint are not copyrightable. Most fractal
images are copyrightable by the artists.

Tim Wegner

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:49:21 PST
From: NOEL_GIFFIN <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Spanky

    Hi Paul,

    Things seem relatively normal at this end, though it's
difficult to tell where the bottleneck might be. They installed
a new powerhub here last week and there might be some teething
problems.  You can always try the mirror at Michael's site:

    http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/fractint.html

    Cheers,
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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:02:39 -0700
From: Rich Thomson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Copyright?

In article <[e-mail]> ,
    "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>  writes:
> Most fractal images are copyrightable by the artists.

I've said it before so many times I'm sounding like a broken record.

The most recent revision of the copyright law says that EVERYTHING
ANYONE makes is instantly copyrighted the moment they make it,
including this mail message :).  It used to be that you had to
specifically claim copyright in order to obtain the benefits of
copyright.  Now everything is copyrighted the moment you create it.
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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:11:39 -0500
From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Gravjul

Finally got around to loading/trying a couple of gj pars (tired of
writing). Changed things around a little and came up with these two. Hope
these tinkerings are acceptable...




gj(des1)           { ; Mark Christenson's formula
                     ; David Shanholtzer, 1998
                     ; color map: dav25a
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=gravijul function=tan/cotan/sin passes=t
  center-mag=-0.00008623667639123/+0.44207820051290570/49.11882/1.1863
  params=9/0/2/0/1.9/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=zmag outside=atan
  potential=255/255/2000 decomp=256 finattract=y
  colors=000<70>000K00<39>w65000<68>000E0G<13>lLq<30>G1IE0GF0G<24>e8b
  }

gj(des2)           { ; Mark Christenson's formula
                     ; David Shanholtzer, 1998
                     ; color map: dav25b
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=gravijul function=tan/cotan/sin passes=t
  center-mag=-0.00008623667639123/+0.44207820051290570/49.11882/1.1863
  params=9/0/2/0/1.9/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=zmag outside=atan
  potential=255/255/2000 decomp=256 finattract=y
  colors=000<70>000E0G<13>lLq<30>G1IE0GF0G<30>lBh000<63>000K00<38>v54
  }

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:12:08 -0600
From: Lavondyss <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Gravijul

Can someone post the original gravijul formula and any pars they have. I've
tried converting the ascii text posted on here once, but it didn't work for
some reason. Thanx.


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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:56:58 -0500
From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Gravijul

At 08:12 PM 3/27/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Can someone post the original gravijul formula and any pars they have. I've
>tried converting the ascii text posted on here once, but it didn't work for
>some reason. Thanx.

Hope this doesn't get mangled....:

gravijul { ; r^(-2) Mark Christenson 1/25/98
; defaults: p1 = (1,0) p2 = (0,0) p3 = (4,0)
   z = pixel:
   w = fn1(z)
   z = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2
    |z| < p3
 }


gj(des1)           { ; Mark Christenson's formula
                     ; David Shanholtzer, 1998
                     ; color map: dav25a
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=gravijul function=tan/cotan/sin passes=t
  center-mag=-0.00008623667639123/+0.44207820051290570/49.11882/1.1863
  params=9/0/2/0/1.9/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=zmag outside=atan
  potential=255/255/2000 decomp=256 finattract=y
  colors=000<70>000K00<39>w65000<68>000E0G<13>lLq<30>G1IE0GF0G<24>e8b
  }

gj(des2)           { ; Mark Christenson's formula
                     ; David Shanholtzer, 1998
                     ; color map: dav25b
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=gravijul function=tan/cotan/sin passes=t
  center-mag=-0.00008623667639123/+0.44207820051290570/49.11882/1.1863
  params=9/0/2/0/1.9/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=zmag outside=atan
  potential=255/255/2000 decomp=256 finattract=y
  colors=000<70>000E0G<13>lLq<30>G1IE0GF0G<30>lBh000<63>000K00<38>v54
  }

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:17:39 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) Mangled Newton Mset Formula

comment {
This formula "mangles" the normal Newton method by using the
normal Newton method equations, but uses a strange criteria
for bailout.  The formula checks for root convergence only
to prevent the background from going to maximum iterations.
The background color is set to color 252.

All of the pars have the same coordinates and colormap - the
difference in the images is due to the functions and parameters
used in the "mangling" process.

Paul Carlson
}

frm:Newt7_Fang_Mset {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
    ; real(p1) = controls element size try 0.01 to 2.0
    ; imag(p1)   not used
    ; p2       = factor, try (1,0)
    ; real(p3) = number of color ranges
    ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range
    ;
    width = real(p1)
    c = pixel
    c2 = c * c, c1 = 1 / c
    root1 = c1
    root2 = -c1
    root3 = c
    root4 = -c
    c41 = c2 * c2+1
    w = sqrt(c41 / (6 * c2))
    z = iter = range_num = bailout = 0
    num_ranges = real(p3)
    colors_in_range = imag(p3)
    colors_in_range_1 = colors_in_range - 1
    :
    w2 = w * w
    w = w - (c2*w2*w2 - c41*w2 + c2) / (4*c2*w2*w - 2*c41*w)
    angle = atan(imag(w) / real(w))
    v = p2 * (fn1(angle)^2 + fn2(angle)^2)
    dist = abs(|w| - |v|)
    IF (dist < width && iter > 0)
        bailout = 1
        index = colors_in_range_1 * dist / width
    z = index + range_num * colors_in_range + 1
    ELSEIF (|w - root1| < 0.00001)
    bailout = 1
    z = 252
    ELSEIF (|w - root2| < 0.00001)
    bailout = 1
    z = 252
    ELSEIF (|w - root3| < 0.00001)
    bailout = 1
    z = 252
    ELSEIF (|w - root4| < 0.00001)
    bailout = 1
    z = 252
    ENDIF
    range_num = range_num + 1
    IF (range_num == num_ranges)
        range_num = 0
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0 && |w| < 10000000
}

newtmngl1          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=nwtmangl.frm
  formulaname=newt7_fang_mset function=ident/ident passes=1
  center-mag=+8.63267123340961500/+8.63267123195079700/589\
  4745/1/44.999
  params=0.05/0/1/0/8/30
  float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG00C4<15\
  >0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<1\
  4>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<12>O00000<\
  10>000zzz000000
  }

newtmngl2          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=nwtmangl.frm
  formulaname=newt7_fang_mset function=tan/cos passes=1
  center-mag=+8.63267123340961500/+8.63267123195079700/589\
  4745/1/44.999
  params=1/0/1/0/8/30 float=y
  maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG00C4<15\
  >0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<1\
  4>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<12>O00000<\
  10>000zzz000000
  }

newtmngl3          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=nwtmangl.frm
  formulaname=newt7_fang_mset function=tan/acosh passes=1
  center-mag=+8.63267123340961500/+8.63267123195079700/589\
  4745/1/44.999
  params=0.1/0/1/0/8/30
  float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG00C4<15\
  >0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<1\
  4>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<12>O00000<\
  10>000zzz000000
  }

newtmngl4          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=nwtmangl.frm
  formulaname=newt7_fang_mset function=asin/cos passes=1
  center-mag=+8.63267123340961500/+8.63267123195079700/589\
  4745/1/44.999
  params=0.5/0/1/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG00C4<15\
  >0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<1\
  4>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<12>O00000<\
  10>000zzz000000
  }

newtmngl5          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=nwtmangl.frm
  formulaname=newt7_fang_mset function=acos/cos passes=1
  center-mag=+8.63267123340961500/+8.63267123195079700/589\
  4745/1/44.999
  params=0.06/0/1/0/8/30
  float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG00C4<15\
  >0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<1\
  4>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<12>O00000<\
  10>000zzz000000
  }

newtmngl6          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=nwtmangl.frm
  formulaname=newt7_fang_mset function=sin/cos passes=1
  center-mag=+8.63267123340961500/+8.63267123195079700/589\
  4745/1/44.999
  params=0.17/0/1/0/8/30
  float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG00C4<15\
  >0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<1\
  4>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<12>O00000<\
  10>000zzz000000
  }


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