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fractint-digest        Monday, February 2 1998        Volume 01 : Number 096




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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 17:50:22 -0500
From: Les St Clair <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) January Par collection!

Hi everyone,

If you're interested in a compilation par of all the postings to this lis=
t
for January '98, you can get it from my web site at:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/

There are parameters for 357 images, plus all the formulas and an index
listing the pars by date and by artist.
The whole bunch is zipped into a handy 73Kb file.

If, by any chance, I missed one of your pars then drop me a line and I wi=
ll
make the necessary corrections.

cheers, Les




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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 19:56:27 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Truemand update

In a message dated 98-02-01 13:56:16 EST, you write:

<< Ooooooooooooooooo.....sounds great ron!!! I'll certainly give it a try
 (didn't mean to complain).  I know all that truecolor stuff is more
 difficult from a programing standpoint than it looks to us users.  Your
 solution sounds just about perfect!!!

 Angela aka wizzle >>

Angela,

Definitely not perfect. This is just a first attempt.

Ron

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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 20:03:06 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) Fractal of the Week

Hello everyone,

I have starting posting a fractal of the week on my web site. I hope to post a
new one each Sunday. All of them will be 24 bit true color fractals.

Ron
http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001

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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 20:19:51 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) for par makers only

In a message dated 98-02-01 09:33:30 EST,
 [e-mail] (Donald Archer) writes:

<< Dear par makers,

 Please always include formulas in frm: format along with pars
 downloaded to this list. Please! I either don't save formulas
 that appear here, or save them in formulafiles of by own naming.
 This would save me a lot of searching and aggrevation as I try
 to find the targetted formula. And I'm sure others have this problem too.

 Don >>
I agree wholeheartedly!  In pars, user-defined formulas should be included in
the frm:format whenever possible.
I know that some formulas are long, due to extensive (but always welcome!)
comments, and some cutting/pasting might be needed to stick them into a par.
But many people on this extensive list who are either new to Fractint, haven't
yet downloaded recently posted formulas, or don't have time to download every
formula, may not see a given par as a fractal unless its formula is included!

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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 21:23:07 -0500
From: "Jason Hine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal mathematics

Ben asks:
> Is it possible to model
>certian areas of the Mandelbrot (or other fractals) useing other equations
>thus doing a kind of pseudozoom which draws fast? Maybe it would be like
>zooming in on a sin curve in this case is there any easy way to draw a curve
>segment useing some alternate formula?


It'd sure be nice, but it hasn't yet been accomplished...  a thought I had was
that maybe there is a way to rewrite the formula so that it would be more
complex but allow you to enter screen coordinates as shorter numbers, thereby
alowing for faster computation... probably similar to what you were thinking.
But if there is a way to rewrite the Mset formula using trig/calc, or so that
deep zooms don't require the multiplication of very large numbers, I sure don't
know what it might be.

Good question, though,  Jason


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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 19:57:43 -0700 (MST)
From: Aaryn  Olsson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Calculating from low->maxIts instead of x:1-maxX,y:1-maxY

I'm new to this discussion list, so I apologize if this has been
discussed before.

Is there an algorithm in use that calculates from depth=n to maxIts?

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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 23:08:52 -0800
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal mathematics

Hi guys,

Zooming in with fast draws?  Depends, it is not as bad as you say, Jason.
I just got an email from Dr. J in fractal space. Very poor typing so I could
only barely make out what he says. Something about zero iterations inside
the Mandelbrot set. I would think there are some calculations involved.  :-)
I'll keep bugging him about this.  To see why he can't send nice email,
check out the latest here...

http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/FotN/FotN33.html

Also, I have started on the iFAQ (inFrequently Asked Questions) here...

http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/iFAQ.html

I have sorted out candidates for inclusion in iFAQ. A total of more than 800k
of email text. Trimming the headers of might get it down to 700k.  So far, that

is way too much. I'll sort it into some questions and topics. Then I can
get some feedback. In the mean time, please feel free to send your
suggestions to me at mailto:[e-mail]

Stay healthy,
Jay

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> From: Jason Hine <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal mathematics
> Date: Sunday, February 01, 1998 6:23 PM
>
> Ben asks:
> > Is it possible to model
> >certian areas of the Mandelbrot (or other fractals) useing other equations
> >thus doing a kind of pseudozoom which draws fast? Maybe it would be like
> >zooming in on a sin curve in this case is there any easy way to draw a curve
> >segment useing some alternate formula?
>
>
> It'd sure be nice, but it hasn't yet been accomplished...  a thought I had
was
> that maybe there is a way to rewrite the formula so that it would be more
> complex but allow you to enter screen coordinates as shorter numbers, thereby
> allowing for faster computation... probably similar to what you were
thinking.
> But if there is a way to rewrite the Mset formula using trig/calc, or so that
> deep zooms don't require the multiplication of very large numbers, I sure
don't
> know what it might be.
>
> Good question, though,  Jason
>
>


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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 09:16:28 +0100
From: Thore Berntsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) New version of Fractint Screen Saver - Version 1.4 - is now available.

It can be found at :


http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm

Thore Berntsen
[e-mail]



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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:13:40 +1
From: "J.P. Louvet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) How long _is_ the coast of the M-set???

le 30 Jan 98 a 17:11, [e-mail] ecrivait ([e-mail] wrote)
:

>   I don't know that many islands that wear coats. :-P

Funny !!! COAST..
Jean-Pierre louvet : [e-mail]
Fractal album :
http://graffiti.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr/MAPBX/louvet/jpl0.html

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Date: 02 Feb 1998 16:50:53 +0100
From: Brederlow <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) xfractint?

Todd Pafford <[e-mail]> writes:

> Hi all, perhaps someone can help me out with something...
>
> Several months ago, I grabbed xfractint off the net, compiled it, but it
> never worked quite right. For example: cannot change color maps (stuck
> with a blue>black gradient), drawing algorithms leave 'artifacts' in the
> form of miscelaneous pixels, no support for various image sizes, etc.
> So instead of fooling with it too much, I turned to the standard dos
> fractint and love it, but now I want to revisit the xfractint so that I
> don't have to reboot to dos to do some exploring.

The colour/palett problems come from 15/16/24/32 bit displays, as well
as the drawing artefacts.

The size can only be preselected with the -gemoetry <width>x<height>
option. With 'v' I think you can make the image smaller, but not the
window.

May the Source be with you.
            Mrvn


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Date: 02 Feb 1998 16:50:53 +0100
From: Brederlow <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) xfractint?

Todd Pafford <[e-mail]> writes:

> Hi all, perhaps someone can help me out with something...
>
> Several months ago, I grabbed xfractint off the net, compiled it, but it
> never worked quite right. For example: cannot change color maps (stuck
> with a blue>black gradient), drawing algorithms leave 'artifacts' in the
> form of miscelaneous pixels, no support for various image sizes, etc.
> So instead of fooling with it too much, I turned to the standard dos
> fractint and love it, but now I want to revisit the xfractint so that I
> don't have to reboot to dos to do some exploring.

The colour/palett problems come from 15/16/24/32 bit displays, as well
as the drawing artefacts.

The size can only be preselected with the -gemoetry <width>x<height>
option. With 'v' I think you can make the image smaller, but not the
window.

May the Source be with you.
            Mrvn


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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 10:55:08 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Paul Derbyshire)
Subject: (fractint) Porting Fractint to DJGPP + Allegro

It is probably easier to port Xfract instead of DOS Fractint, I'd guess,
since xfract is probably built around 32-bit flat memory anyways.


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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 10:58:32 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Paul Derbyshire)
Subject: (fractint) Wizzle's Herman pars

They're lovely! Thanks...


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Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 10:12:54 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Porting Fractint to DJGPP + Allegro

On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Paul Derbyshire wrote:

>
> It is probably easier to port Xfract instead of DOS Fractint, I'd guess,
> since xfract is probably built around 32-bit flat memory anyways.
>
Yes... and no.  The problem is that you'd have to get around that
windowing stuff.  Unless, that is, there's a direct way to translate
X windows into Microsoft windows.

If only there were an SVGALib Fractint...  That would be the easiest of
all to port!  Unfortunately, there isn't one.  :(

Justin A. Kolodziej
(using VAX, so no not-so witty sig here)


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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:12:52 +1
From: "J.P. Louvet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ANOTHER QUESTION! (was: Re: (fractint) Truemand Question...[

le  1 Feb 98 a 16:21, Blake Hyde ecrivait (Blake Hyde wrote) :

> converted it to PNG, hoping for better compression, and got it. BUT
> Micro$ucks Internet Exploder 4.0 can't view PNG files. It should be able
> to, but it doesn't.

My experience is that the latest version of IE4 read PNG in a html page,
but not as alone picture.


Jean-Pierre louvet : [e-mail]
Fractal album :
http://graffiti.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr/MAPBX/louvet/jpl0.html

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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:04:40 -0700 (MST)
From: Aaryn  Olsson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Calculating from low->maxIts instead of x:1-maxX,y:1-maxY

Does anybody discuss these matters at all in this discussion list?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Aaryn Olsson
[e-mail]
Ag Networking Lab
621-2489
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


On Sun, 1 Feb 1998, Aaryn  Olsson wrote:

> I'm new to this discussion list, so I apologize if this has been
> discussed before.
>
> Is there an algorithm in use that calculates from depth=n to maxIts?
>
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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:07:08 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Paul Derbyshire)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Calculating from low->maxIts instead of x:1-maxX,y:1-maxY

>Does anybody discuss these matters at all in this discussion list?

>> Is there an algorithm in use that calculates from depth=n to maxIts?

By group consensus, we generally only discuss something when we know what
the heck it means. :-)

You may wish to rephrase your query so it's more intelligible to
non-telepaths. (The telepaths will have given you their answer, but not by
the mailing list...)

:-)


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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:32:49 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [none]

I believe you forwarded Paul's message without editing it....in which case
the > character gets inserted before every line of his formulas and pars.
This can be avoided by copying his formula and pasting it into a new email
to the list.  If that doesn't work, maybe Paul could send his stuff for
posting to me as it's easier for me to do the cut and paste job than edit a
long formula.  And thanks to Paul for another winner

Angela

At 03:17 AM 1/30/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>---Paul and/or Joyce Carlson <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> This formula and par produce a very colorful spiral.
>> Since much of the logic in this formula is the same
>> as that in other formulas I've posted, I've eliminated
>> most of the comments that have appeared in the other
>> formulas.
>>
>> Paul Carlson
>>
>> CSin_Atan_Julia {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
>>     ;****************************************************
>>     ; Always use floating point math and outside=summ.
>>     ;
>>     ; Parameters:
>>     ;   p1       = Julia set coordinates
>>     ;   real(p2) = maximum value of abs(real(w))
>>     ;   real(p3) = number of color ranges
>>     ;   imag(p3) = number of colors in each color range
>>     ;****************************************************
>>     prev_w = pixel
>>     c = p1
>>     z = 0
>>     bailout = 0
>>     iter = 0
>>     range_num = 0
>>     max_real = real(p2)
>>     num_ranges = real(p3)
>>     colors_in_range = imag(p3):
>>     ;****************************************************
>>     w = c * sin(prev_w)
>>     ;****************************************************
>>     IF (abs(real(w)) > max_real)
>>     delta_i = imag(w) - imag(prev_w)
>>     delta_r = real(w) - real(prev_w)
>>     angle = abs(atan(delta_i / delta_r))
>>     bailout = 1
>>     range_index = 2 * colors_in_range * angle / pi
>>     z = range_index + range_num * colors_in_range + 1
>>     ENDIF
>>     prev_w = w
>>     range_num = range_num + 1
>>     IF (range_num == num_ranges)
>>         range_num = 0
>>     ENDIF
>>     iter = iter + 1
>>     z = z - iter
>>     bailout == 0
>> }
>>
>> c_sin_atan_jul     { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
>>   reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=csinatan.frm
>>   formulaname=csin_atan_julia passes=1
>>   corners=0.50200688/0.62208688/0.481622813/0.571682813
>>   params=1/0.1/1.35/0/8/30
>>   float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ
>>   colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG0\
>>   0zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000
>>   }
>>
>>
>>
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>
>Umm....
>
>Exactly how do I place these FRM & PAR files into FRACTINT to use
>them?  I'm not new to FRACTINT but I am new to the idea of grabbing
>stuff off the list and slapping it into my copy of FRACTINT.  Also if
>the par calls for a color scheme I don't have how do I tell it to use
>another one.
>
>
>
>
>THANX
>
>
>James R. McKenzie
>
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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:45:50 -0500
From: George Martin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) New release of formula compilation

Friends,

An updated "orgform" formula compilation of Fractint formulas is available
as "orgfrm.zip" at the Spanky site:

http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html

The compilation was done at 1/29/98 and has just under 8500 formulas.Thanks
to Les StClair, Kerry Mitchell, and others who made suggestions and sent me
formulas that I didn't have.

Many of the new formulas since the last compilation were found in messages
to this group and Jon Noring's Fractal-Art message list. I encourage
authors to check out their formulas in the compilation to make sure they
are presented as you wish them. As always, suggestions and comments are
welcome.

George Martin

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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:57:48 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [none]

Very nice images! My favorite is "Please!" too. Your comment about it
amused me.
Bud,
Thanks for your kind words. I worked some more with gravijul. Here are
four more pars.
Judging from the name you gave to your latest post, you must have quite
a few pars!!!
Would you please post some more? Thanks,
Gedeon


gj09-07            { ; Mark Christenson's formula
                     ; Gedeon Peteri, Jan 30, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=gravijul function=flip/flip/log passes=b
  center-mag=1.71784/0.415966/3.052865 params=13/-11.5/0/0/8/0
  float=y maxiter=256 outside=mult decomp=256
  colors=006C55943741006<7>W68_68c78f78k78<2>v89v89r89o88\
  k78f78<10>006010740<2>OD0UG1YI1cL1gN1kP1<2>uU1vV2xW2<2>\
  xW2wV2uU1<2>lQ1hO1cL1ZJ1VG1<4>110200<2>J2HP2NU3TZ3\
  Yb4bg4fk5jn5nq6qt7tu7uv8w<2>w8wu7vt7t<2>k5kh4gc4b\
  Z3YV3U<4>301741<6>L9GMAJOBLPCNQDPRDSSEUSFWSGYSGYSFW\
  <4>OBLNAJL9G<3>E67C55943741417<6>W68_68c78f78k78<2>\
  v89v89r89o88k78f78<10>006010740<2>OD0UG1YI1cL1gN1kP1\
  <2>uU1vV2xW2<2>xW2wV2uU1<2>lQ1hO1cL1ZJ1VG1<4>110200\
  <2>J2HP2NU3TZ3Yb4bg4fk5jn5nq6qt7tu7uv8w<2>w8wu7vt7t\
  <2>k5kh4gc4bZ3YV3U<4>301741<6>L9GMAJOBL\
  PCNQDPRDSSEUSFWSGYSGYSFW<4>OBLNAJL9G<3>E67
  }

gj09-08            { ; Mark Christenson's formula
                     ; Gedeon Peteri, Jan 30, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=gravijul function=cotanh/atanh/cotan passes=t
  center-mag=5.66214e-015/0/0.1485804/1/57.5 params=1/0/0/0/2.95/0
  float=y inside=111 outside=atan
  colors=HXn<5>CSkBRjAQi9Qh8Ph<2>5MfFLM<14>bhj<15>FLM03g\
  <22>`bz<4>UWv000QTu<15>25h03g0Wz<14>00W<15>0WzFLM<14>\
  bhj<15>FLMJKQ<13>eej<15>JKQ00z<14>0zz\
  <15>00z5Mf<21>TeuUfvTev<9>JYo
  }

gj09-09            { ; Mark Christenson's formula
                     ; Gedeon Peteri, Jan 30, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=gravijul function=ident/atanh/cotan passes=t
  center-mag=-0.00000000000000000/-0.47932733764094000/9122.045
  params=1/0/0/0/1/0 float=y inside=111 outside=atan
  colors=000saJ<4>ygOzhPziQzjRziQ<4>vdLucKsaJ<17>_J1G58\
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  KLHS2H<22>yPlzRnzQm<24>S2H_J1<14>q`I
  }

gj09-10            { ; Mark Christenson's formula
                     ; Gedeon Peteri, Jan 30, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=gravijul function=flip/ident/cotan passes=b
  center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=0.975/0/0/0/3.5/0 float=y
  maxiter=1023 fillcolor=255 decomp=256
  colors=000AFGAGHAHH<9>89C88B87B87A769759<3>637526526425\
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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 16:03:58 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [none]

the formulas tutorial. They _did_ work at one point, but then Fractint
crashed and now they don't. I think I'll call it a bug. :)

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Subject: Re: (fractint) (Fractint) Formula Fricassee


>
>Looks to me like none of them should work; you don't do anything in
>the iteration part!  Also, you are assigning to "pixel", which I don't
>think is going to do anything meaningful.
>
>In article <00b601bd2dbf$c8c99720$5b8345c6@Damsel> ,
>    "aardvarko" <[e-mail]>  writes:
>> Can someone help me out with my formula? This:
>>
>> TEST4 {
>>   z= Pixel, z=Sqr(z)
>> x=real(z), y=imag(z), tst=p1+4, t=1+pixel
>> IF (whitesq)
>>    y=Pixel-x/z
>>    x=Pixel-y/z
>>    x=abs(x)+fn1(y)
>>    y=abs(y)+fn1(x)
>>    Pixel=fn2(x*y)
>>    Pixel=fn1(Pixel)
>> ELSE
>>    y=Pixel-x/z
>>    x=Pixel-y/z
>>    x=abs(x)+fn1(y)
>>    y=abs(y)+fn1(x)
>>    Pixel=fn2(x*y)
>> ENDIF
>> :
>> }
>
>This formula has no iteration part, only an initialization part.
>Since nothing will be iterated, you will get a constant-color screen
>with outside = iter
>
>> TEST4 {
>>   z= Pixel, z=Sqr(z)
>> x=real(z), y=imag(z), tst=p1+4, t=1+pixel
>>    y=Pixel-x/z
>>    x=Pixel-y/z
>>    x=abs(x)+fn1(y)
>>    y=abs(y)+fn1(x)
>>    Pixel=fn2(x*y)
>> IF (whitesq)
>>    Pixel=fn1(Pixel)
>> ELSE
>> ENDIF
>> :
>> }
>
>Same thing here.
>
>> However, this:
>>
>> TEST3 {
>>   z= Pixel, z=Sqr(z)
>>   tst=p1+4, t=1+pixel, x=real(z), y=imag(z)
>> y=Pixel-x/z
>> x=Pixel-y/z
>> x=abs(x)+fn1(y)
>> y=abs(y)+fn1(x)
>> Pixel=fn2(x*y)
>> Pixel=fn1(Pixel)
>> }
>>
>> and this:
>>
>> TEST2
>>
>>   z= Pixel, z=Sqr(z)
>>   tst=p1+4, t=1+pixel, x=real(z), y=imag(z)
>> y=Pixel-x/z
>> x=Pixel-y/z
>> x=abs(x)+fn1(y)
>> y=abs(y)+fn1(x)
>> Pixel=fn2(x*y)
>>
>> }
>
>These formulas have no iteration part either, but they also don't have
>the : which separates the initialization from the iteration.  Whatever
>you're getting from fractint is either undefined behavior or a bug,
>depending on your viewpoint.
>--
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>                                               [e-mail]
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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:28:07 -0500
From: "Blake Hyde" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Is this just me, or...?

I have gotten several articles from the list with no subject, that Outlook
ExpressYourHatred won't read. Is it just me, or is it the list? Or OE?

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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:35:22 -0500
From: "aardvarko" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ANOTHER QUESTION! (was: Re: (fractint) Truemand Question...[

Mesself, I could get it's idiotic little preview window in the left side of
a folder to view 'em fine, but not standalone or <IMG> or <EMBED> . Go
figger.

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Date: Monday, February 02, 1998 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: ANOTHER QUESTION! (was: Re: (fractint) Truemand Question...[


le  1 Feb 98 a 16:21, Blake Hyde ecrivait (Blake Hyde wrote) :

> converted it to PNG, hoping for better compression, and got it. BUT
> Micro$ucks Internet Exploder 4.0 can't view PNG files. It should be able
> to, but it doesn't.

My experience is that the latest version of IE4 read PNG in a html page,
but not as alone picture.


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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:23:52 -0500
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) gravijul

Hi All,

  It's been a while since we haven't seen pars based on gravijul!  Here a=
re
mine:

sg_gravijul_01     { ; .                                    t=3D  0:05:02=
=2E97
                     ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Feb 03, 1998
                     ; <[e-mail]>
                     ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dlist_98.frm formulaname=3Dgra=
vijul
  function=3Drecip/tanh/log passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D-0.640338/1.47121/5.603928 params=3D-0.5/-0.25/-1/0.225/9/=
0
  float=3Dy maxiter=3D2045 inside=3Depsiloncross decomp=3D256
  colors=3DU00siT<5>ytZzv_yv_<29>UupStqRrp<18>6CR5AQ5AN<5>945A32A43<7>AEA=
AFB\
  BHCCJD<8>IYPJ_RJ`R<6>LhM<12>wt1<12>DVF<9>BI9BH8BH8<4>9D6<2>MG7QH8UI9YJA=
a\
  LBeMCgODjQF<2>nVJ<3>vdByg8yh5yi3<20>zzz<6>SE7QD6OC6<14>Q19R0AR1A<29>cJD=
c\
  KDdLEeMF<12>rhS
  }

sg_gravijul_02     { ; .                                    t=3D  0:04:22=
=2E99
                     ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Feb 03, 1998
                     ; <[e-mail]>
                     ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dlist_98.frm formulaname=3Dgra=
vijul
  function=3Drecip/conj/sqrt passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D1.38925/0.0169872/0.4084293/0.7564/9.869/-12.161
  params=3D1.2/0.3/-3/-0.1/40/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D100 inside=3D0
  outside=3Dsumm
  colors=3DDFF<50>lsumtvltw<157>EKJEKJEKJEJIDJIDIH<9>ADDADDADDADDADD<11>F=
FF4\
  44<11>CEE cyclerange=3D0/255
  }

sg_gravijul_03     { ; .                                    t=3D  0:05:15=
=2E33
                     ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Feb 03, 1998
                     ; <[e-mail]>
                     ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dlist_98.frm formulaname=3Dgra=
vijul
  function=3Drecip/cosxx/log passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D0.669248/0.210755/7.66535/1/-4.999
  params=3D-2/-2/-0.7/0.5/7/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D1023 inside=3D0 decomp=3D=
256
  colors=3DA00A32<8>AEAAFBBHCCJD<8>IYPJ_RJ`R<6>LhM<12>wt1<12>DVF<9>BI9BH8=
BH8\
  <4>9D6<2>MG7QH8UI9YJAZKA<13>wh9yj8yjA<17>zzz<6>SE7QD6OC6<14>Q19R0AR1A<2=
9\
  >cJDcKDdLEeMF<17>wpXxrYytZzv_yv_xv`<28>UupStqRrp<18>6CR5AQ5AN<5>945
  }

sg_gravijul_04     { ; .                                    t=3D  0:02:56=
=2E31
                     ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Feb 03, 1998
                     ; <[e-mail]>
                     ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dlist_98.frm formulaname=3Dgra=
vijul
  function=3Dident/log/log passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D-7.21645e-016/6.66134e-016/0.5951129/1.0225/55/23.106
  params=3D-0.9/-2/0/0.75/7/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D511 inside=3D79 decomp=3D=
256
  colors=3DnaO<14>wvZxx_wx_<25>UupStqRrp<11>FSaEQ_DOZBLXAJW9HU8FT6CR<6>12=
400\
  0111<4>886AA7AC8AD9AEA<4>DMGEOHFQIFRKGTLHVMHWOIYPJ_R<7>LhM<12>wt1<12>DV=
F\
  <9>BI9BH8BH8<4>9D6<2>MG7QH8UI9YJAZKA<13>wh9yj8yjA<17>zzz<6>SE7QD6OC6<14=
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  Q19R0AR1A<29>cJDcKDdLEeMF<8>naO cyclerange=3D0/255
  }

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:39:51 -0500
From: "aardvarko" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: Formula Fricassee

It looks like my mail server went on a rampage again... it was _supposed_ to
be this:

I was just mucking around... I should probably get off my lazy butt and read
the formulas tutorial. They _did_ work at one point, but then Fractint
crashed and now they don't. I think I'll call it a bug. :)


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Date: Monday, February 02, 1998 6:04 PM


>the formulas tutorial. They _did_ work at one point, but then Fractint
>crashed and now they don't. I think I'll call it a bug. :)
>
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>To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 5:31 PM
>Subject:

    [snip]


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