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fractint-digest       Tuesday, December 30 1997       Volume 01 : Number 051




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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 11:34:15 -0800
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Par Problem - Can you help?

Hi Peter,
Of course we can't tell what your images were supposed to be without
the GIF files.  But two of your pars seem to be off the interesting part
of the image. Not sure what the problem is....

I zoomed back and panned to get these:

Turnz-1            { ; (C)1997 Peter Moreland
                     ; Dec 30, 1997   0:00:55.81 P200MMX
                     ; Email: [e-mail]
                     ; *** No Commercial Use Without Permission ***
  reset=1730 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=wineglass
  center-mag=-0.565198/0.041894/0.7142857/1.0916/82.161/0.671 float=y
  maxiter=100 inside=maxiter outside=real decomp=128 finattract=y
  colors=000Wmo<34>WopWpqWno<6>W`eWZc\
  VXbUV`<9>K9MJ7KH7JF6ID6HA6F<9>A12A00A\
  00<26>A01A12A12A13A13<20>A5EA5EB5FC5F\
  <5>H6II7JJ9L<5>SQYTT_UWaVYdW`fWchWf\
  j<103>WmnA01
  savename=Turnz-1
  }

Coilz-1            { ; (C)1997 Peter Moreland
                     ; Dec 30, 1997   0:00:51.02 P200MMX
                     ; Email: [e-mail]
                     ; *** No Commercial Use Without Permission ***
  reset=1730 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=wineglass
  center-mag=-0.391251/-0.0495879/0.6622517/0.9461/25.563/3.961
  float=y maxiter=500 inside=period outside=real decomp=128
  finattract=y
  colors=000Wmo<34>WopWpqWno<6>W`eWZcV\
  XbUV`<9>K9MJ7KH7JF6ID6HA6F<9>A12A00A\
  00<26>A01A12A12A13A13<20>A5EA5EB5FC5F\
  <5>H6II7JJ9L<5>SQYTT_UWaVYdW`fWchWf\
  j<103>WmnA01
  savename=Coilz-1
  }


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> From: Peter Moreland <[e-mail]>
> To: Fractint Mailing List <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (fractint) Par Problem - Can you help?
> Date: Tuesday, December 30, 1997 10:36 AM
>
> I produced these three images today, all three are a variation on the same
> theme, however only one of them will reproduce from it's param entry. I
> can't work out why, any help would be appreciated :)
>
> All the saved GIF's restore Ok, just cant 'B' the blighters!
>
> Quillz regenerates Ok, Turnz & Coilz just produce a GIF you wouldn't bother
> to share ;)
>


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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 14:46:22 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Michael Traynor)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Par Problem - Can you help?

Peter writes:

>Quillz regenerates Ok, Turnz & Coilz just produce a GIF you wouldn't bother
>to share ;)

This might be a time to ask Tim what his view would be on posting
uuencoded gifs to the list.  I am thinking of very small ones, with
viewwindows at about 10.  Depending on the complexity of the image, these
would be around 10K or less.  In cases like Peter's Turnz and Coilz, this
might be the only way to show what was aimed at, and indeed, if Peter can
re-generate Turnz and Coilz in the small size, it may help others to
figure out what is going wrong.

Unless and until Tim says, we should not post any such gifs to the list,
but it is something to consider.

Peter,

If you can generate Turnz and Coilz in very small size, I'd like to see
them and you could send them directly to me.



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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 12:47:53 -0700
From: Rich Thomson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Par Problem - Can you help?

In article <[e-mail]> ,
    [e-mail] (Michael Traynor)  writes:
> This might be a time to ask Tim what his view would be on posting
> uuencoded gifs to the list.

For various reasons, the consensus was in past discussions to put the
image on a web page and post a URL rather than sending the image directly.
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 12:25:04 -0800
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Par Problem - Can you help?

> From: Michael Traynor <[e-mail]>
> Peter writes:
>
> >Quillz regenerates Ok, Turnz & Coilz just produce a GIF you wouldn't bother
> >to share ;)
>
> This might be a time to ask Tim what his view would be on posting
> uuencoded gifs to the list.  I am thinking of very small ones, with

We should put these on a web page.  It would be an extra step, email
an attachment to me or someone else with room on a page. Then in
a day or so it would be up and referenceable.

> Unless and until Tim says, we should not post any such gifs to the list,
> but it is something to consider.

I recommend no gifs to the list... there are about 25% on this list that
would be upset.

I have little room now with the contest but if I redirect the three winner
images
to Paul Lee's page, there is about 1 Meg at my geocities site.

I have been thinking of posting some of the hard to transfer par and frm
files from this list on my site in zip form, so that some who have even
more difficulty getting them to work than I can get them easily.  The
digest does not help in this, since the difficulties often mean editing the
files as posted.

Geocities is free, so if any of you 'out there' want to get a page....
It is rather easy if you have a PC, Win95, and Netscape (not Explorer!!).
Dunno about other platforms.

Jay


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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 14:41:00 -0600
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: GeoCities

Jay,

 - Geocities is free, so if any of you 'out there' want to get a page....
 - It is rather easy if you have a PC, Win95, and Netscape (not Explorer!!).
                                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'd like to comment on this, although it's only peripherally on-topic.  I
assume what you're referring to here is GeoCities' EZ-upload facility,
where they state that it doesn't work with Internet Explorer.  (For you who
have never used GeoCities, the "EZ" here definitely applies: it makes
uploading files for your GeoCities web pages *very* easy.)

Although Internet Explorer 3 does not work with this utility, version 4
*does*.  So if you're using MSIE4, don't let that "Netscape only" bit scare
you away from using GeoCities.  They'll give you 3M of space for free, but
they'll insist on ads in your pages.  If you pay them $5/month, they'll
give you 15M of space and allow you to dispense with the ads.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  http://www.icd.com/tsd/  (temporary sanity designs)
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)


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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 13:19:46 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: GeoCities

Another peripheral comment

I have two sites at Geocities myself.....<<sigh>>.  You can get a site for
every email place you have...I have two providers (god forbid I should be
off the net for ONE second!!!)

I use ws_ftp95.exe to upload to Geocities and my other 3 sites (I know...I
know...I'm wierd) which is a great program and extremely easy to learn and
set up. It's available for free at www.nonags.com...THE place to find cool
freebies. One warning......Microsoft Front Page and Geocities don't
mix....so use another html editor.  If you've never done a homepage I have
a page devoted to the absolute basics of homepage making at

http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/graphic_hints.htm

Angela

At 02:41 PM 12/30/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Jay,
>
> - Geocities is free, so if any of you 'out there' want to get a page....
> - It is rather easy if you have a PC, Win95, and Netscape (not Explorer!!).
>                                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I'd like to comment on this, although it's only peripherally on-topic.  I
>assume what you're referring to here is GeoCities' EZ-upload facility,
>where they state that it doesn't work with Internet Explorer.

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 15:58:31 EST
From: JulianPA <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Australian Fractal Artists

"B Michie" <[e-mail]> writes:
>Any Fractint users out there who live Sydney,  Australia or thereabouts.

You could talk to Brian Wynn, The Basin, Victoria, Australia. I'm not sure if
Brian uses Fractint or not, but it is a start.

Brian can be found at:

http://www.home.aone.net.au/sci-gal/sci-gal.htm

and:

[e-mail]

Cheers,

Julian

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:00:04 -0800
From: Peter Jakubowicz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) >>A gynaeclogical look to it<<

At 03:21 PM 12/30/97 +0100, someone wrote:
>Hi fractinters,
>
>Got some problems with sexuality? I hope not..

Well, I, at any rate, have got some problems with some of the sexual
innuendo, etc., posted to this list recently. I believe there are plenty of
chat groups on the net to satisfy this sort of need. And if by chance you
want the real thing -- why don't you check out
alt.binaries.pictures.fractals? Jerks are posting porn ads there all the
time apparently. Gynecological fractals, indeed. Get a life.


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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 14:37:01 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Par Problem - Can you help?

Peter....

I had the same prob...I got Quillz but not turnz or coilz....very odd since
they are all off the wineglass formula. <<sigh>>.

BTW ....I very much appreciate seeing your name in the par file (that first
set of comments) cause that way I can remember who to reply to regarding
all the great pars that are posted.....sure wish everyone would identify
themselves and THEN do the editorial stuff.

Happy New Year....

Angela aka wizzle

p.s. I just uploaded a bunch of new material based on my fractals
.....seamless tiles made with Corel's PhotoPaint.......let me know how you
like them.....they have the advantage of being fractal-ish but smaller if
used as a desktop wallpaper

http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractalintro.htm

>Quillz regenerates Ok, Turnz & Coilz just produce a GIF you wouldn't bother
>to share ;)
>
>
>
>Quillz             { ; (C)1997 Peter Moreland
>                     ; Dec 30, 1997   0:00:57.85 P200MMX
>                     ; Email: [e-mail]
>                     ; *** No Commercial Use Without Permission ***
>  reset=0 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=wineglass
>  center-mag=-0.212925/-0.0207727/5.211311/1.0877/95.804/-1.518
>  float=y maxiter=100 inside=maxiter outside=real decomp=128
>  finattract=y
>  colors=000Wmo<34>WopWpqWno<6>W`eWZcVXbUV`<10>J7K<2>D6HA6FA5E<8>A12A00A00\
>  <26>A01A12A12A13A13<20>A5EA5EB5FC5F<5>H6II7JJ9L<6>TT_UWaVYdW`fWchWfj<103\
>  >WmnA01
>  }
>
>Turnz              { ; (C)1997 Peter Moreland
>                     ; Dec 30, 1997   0:00:55.81 P200MMX
>                     ; Email: [e-mail]
>                     ; *** No Commercial Use Without Permission ***
>  reset=0 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=wineglass
>  center-mag=6.15748/-30.3697/0.06252411/1.0916/82.162/0.671 float=y
>  maxiter=100 inside=maxiter outside=real decomp=128 finattract=y
>  colors=000Wmo<34>WopWpqWno<6>W`eWZcVXbUV`<10>J7K<2>D6HA6FA5E<8>A12A00A00\
>  <26>A01A12A12A13A13<20>A5EA5EB5FC5F<5>H6II7JJ9L<6>TT_UWaVYdW`fWchWfj<103\
>  >WmnA01
>  }
>
>Coilz              { ; (C)1997 Peter Moreland
>                     ; Dec 30, 1997   0:00:51.02 P200MMX
>                     ; Email: [e-mail]
>                     ; *** No Commercial Use Without Permission ***
>  reset=0 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=wineglass
>  center-mag=+1.59315549824318400/+7.74678495561187200/11476.84/0.9461/25.\
>  564/3.962 float=y maxiter=500 inside=period outside=real decomp=128
>  finattract=y
>  colors=000Wmo<34>WopWpqWno<6>W`eWZcVXbUV`<10>J7K<2>D6HA6FA5E<8>A12A00A00\
>  <26>A01A12A12A13A13<20>A5EA5EB5FC5F<5>H6II7JJ9L<6>TT_UWaVYdW`fWchWfj<103\
>  >WmnA01
>  }
>

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 14:40:35 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) The weirdest bird off the planet

Jay....

Can I have the formula that goes with this "forbidden fractal"?????? I
think my humor quotient is up to viewing this exciting image.....but don't
let whatshisname see it!!!!!

Angela

At 11:24 AM 12/30/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi Fractintiers,
>
>Here is a sample using Paul Carlson's 3D Balls formula.
>I thought I'd just take a simple pan down to elephant row
>and see what the balls would look like in one of the spirals.
>
>Well...
>
>One should be cautious when using this formula, as this
>example shows. You can get some images that should
>not be viewed by humans.  I'm holding the copyright tightly
>on this one, since it should not be shown to non-fractal
>types***. They just won't understand and might call the
>guys in white coats.  ;-)
>
>*** For a discussion of fractals and personality types,
>see recent Fractal art list postings.
>
>Jay
>
>
>Weird-Bird         { ; (c) Jay Hill, 1997
>                     ;  *** No Use Of Any Kind Without Doctor's Permission
***
>                     ; Uses Paul Carlson's formula
>  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=3dballsm.frm
>  formulaname=3d_balls_mset
>  center-mag=+0.27938299541093040/-0.00842228714524207/1500
>  params=0.0065/150/8/30 float=y maxiter=30000 inside=253 outside=summ
>  colors=000c40<28>zW0aG0<28>zz00C4<28>\
>  0zR0CC<28>0zz00O<25>EEuEEwFFxGGzI0K\
>  <28>fOzO08<28>z0fO00<28>z88000<13>000
>  savename=Weirdbrd
>  }
>
>
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 15:44:42 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) >>A gynaeclogical look to it<<

Peter.....

My sympathies......innuendo can be disconcerting.....but I'm sure you can
avoid all this stuff by merely deleting the emails with biological topics.
No need at all to sully yourself. Innuendo...like beauty...is in the eye of
the beholder. For me the fractals were funny....such is my eye

Angela

>>Hi fractinters,
>>
>>Got some problems with sexuality? I hope not..
>
>Well, I, at any rate, have got some problems with some of the sexual
>innuendo, etc., posted to this list recently. I believe there are plenty of
>chat groups on the net to satisfy this sort of need. And if by chance you
>want the real thing -- why don't you check out
>alt.binaries.pictures.fractals? Jerks are posting porn ads there all the
>time apparently. Gynecological fractals, indeed. Get a life.


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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 15:46:56 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Humor Hint

biological or gynecological fractals are a non sequiter......hence the humor

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:07:54 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) New Stuff

Here are a bunch of pars based on various formulas taken from
eli.frm......wonderful cause I don't have to think about entering numbers
<<duh>>.  I think all the color maps are new-ish and useful.


goldswirl          { ; (c) wizzle 1997 - new color map
  reset=1950 type=formula formulafile=f(g(z))).frm
  formulaname=fgz-julia center-mag=7.98405e-005/6.4375e-006/1.893957
  maxiter=29570 inside=bof60 decomp=256 biomorph=0 symmetry=none
  colors=000<3>GGOLLVNNXPPZSSaTTb<3>aakddneeoggqjjollvnnxqqzsszqqzooyllv<2\
  >ggqeeobbl<2>XXfUUcTTb<2>LLV<2>SSaUUcVVd<5>ggqjjtkkunnxppzsszqqz<2>kkuii\
  sffp<4>XXfUUUTTT<2>LLL<2>SSSUUUVVV<5>gggjjjkkk<2>sss<10>XXXUUUTTT<2>LLL<\
  2>SSSUUUVVV<5>gggjjjkkk<2>sss<15>000<121>000
  }

goldarrow          { ; (c) wizzle 1997 - new color map
  reset=1950 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=dots
  center-mag=-0.593938/1.46393/4.554387/1/-9.999 params=0.9/0.8
  inside=bof60 outside=atan invert=1/0/0
  colors=000000KA4<13>zzc<15>000<15>00z<14>000<32>000<15>p0w<9>K0NH0JG0NE1\
  R<6>2oa0wc0ua<16>4D3<23>zwm<12>KA0000<47>000330<16>110
  }

********************************************
OK...so the following is fairly silly......but...aren't we fractaleers???
don't we need hats?????
********************************************

fract-ears         { ; (c) wizzle 1997 - new color map
  reset=1950 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=aaa-deals
  center-mag=0.650814/4.44089e-016/0.9991767/1/90 params=0/0
  inside=bof60 outside=atan invert=1/0/0
  colors=000MJU<5>G0A<12>zmm<13>U30<3>K0K<12>mUm<34>C00<15>zzm<15>0CC<12>0\
  zz<15>000<15>00z<11>00G<14>zzm<10>0A0<15>0zm<12>C0C<14>SivUmzUjw<7>NMY
  }

bluehot            { ; (c) wizzle 1997 - jewel color map variation
  reset=1950 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=aa-mand-re
  center-mag=-0.616242/-8.88178e-016/0.7611548/0.8197/-90 params=0/0
  inside=bof60 outside=atan invert=1/0/0
  colors=00000Z<6>00z<14>000<32>000<15>p0w<12>A0B70860A<2>20H00K03M<11>0cm\
  <4>00K<10>J02L00O00<12>z00<2>p00l00h00d00a00<5>F00000<47>000330<17>000PA\
  0<12>wc0<15>040000<7>00W
  }

reikosan           { ; (c) wizzle 1997 - a fav rgb color map
  reset=1950 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=aa-z-to-c
  center-mag=-1.29396/-0.0136484/1.321761/0.7594/-90 params=82/0
  float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 potential=255/400/200
  colors=00050F<2>20I00K00M<14>00z<14>00N00K01J<13>0I20K00M0<14>0z0<14>0N0\
  0K01J0<13>I20K00M00<14>z00<15>00z<13>00N00K01J<13>0I20K00M0<14>0z0<14>0N\
  00K01J0<13>I20K00M00<14>z00<14>N00K00J01<9>70D
  }

And the forumlas are.....

a---mand {
  z = c = pixel:
   z = z^c + sin(c)
    |z|<p1
}

dots {
  z = c = pixel:
   z = z^c + c
    |z|<p1
}

a--mand {
  z = c = pixel:
   z = (sqr(z)+c) / |c|
    |z|<p1
}

aaa-deals {
  z = pixel, a=real(z), b=imag(z), i=((0-1)^0.5):
   x = real(z)
   y = imag(z)
   u = x*x + y*y + a
   v = (0-2)*x*y + b
   z = u + v*i;
    |z|<p1
}

aa-mand-re(XAXIS) {
  z = c = pixel:
   z = sqr(z)+c;
    real(z)<p1
}

aa-mand-im(XAXIS) {
  z = c = pixel:
   z = sqr(z)+c;
    imag(z)<p1
}

aa-diamand {
  z = c = pixel:
   z = sqr(z)+c;
    (real(z)+imag(z))<p1
}

aa-c-to-z(XAXIS)  {
  z = pixel, c = z:
   z = c^z;
    |z| <= p1
}

aa-z-to-c(XAXIS)  {
  z = pixel, c = z:
   z = exp(c*log(z));
    |z| <= p1
}

aa-z-to-z(XAXIS)  {
  z = pixel, c = z:
   z = exp(z*log(z));
    |z| <= p1
}

If I've added an extra formula or two I'm sure you won't mind...these were
really fun to play with.

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:18:18 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Formula Question

If I just add any new formulas to the fractint.frm file will fractint
default to look there first regardless what info is in the par file??? Is
there a limit to the number of formulas (file size)?????

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:23:38 -0700
From: Rich Thomson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) another 24-bit coloring idea

Here's a quickie idea... use the last iterate of each pixel to generate
texture coordinates (u,v) and then color the pixel by texture lookup.
I hacked a little M-set program to do this and the results are fairly
interesting from this first experiment... the possibilities are
endless....
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:15:42 -0500
From: "Jason Hine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Australian users

Beth wrote:
>Who needs an excuse!!!


Oh, I use fractals as my excuse for all sorts of things,
from being late to work ("Had to check on that deepzoom")
to bumping into mailboxes ("That tree's bifurcation period
had me entranced") to making disaster of dinner ("I got the
recipe for this by translating one of Cliff Pickover's
formulas... I call it Pickover Suprise.  Watch the peanut
shells...)

You're right, tho'... travel and exploration require no
excuse!  :)
Jason


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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:35:19 -0500
From: "Jason Hine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Happy New Year!

Cool par, Les!  Thanks, and Happy New Year!

Jason


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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 18:41:18 -0600
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) another 24-bit coloring idea

Rich,

 - Here's a quickie idea... use the last iterate of each pixel to generate
 - texture coordinates (u,v) and then color the pixel by texture lookup.

Kai's Fractal Explorer (part of Kai's Power Tools) has an option to do this
sort of thing.  It uses the potential for one axis and field line angle for
the other.  Very interesting, but not as spiffy as one might expect.  My
main complaint is its field line resolution is limited, and becomes pretty
much worthless after a few zooms.

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:49:46 -0800
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) another 24-bit coloring idea

Hi Rich,

If you could explain to this forum how to specify the color of a pixel,
given most any other information about the point in question, it would
be a first. I have asked several times. I have some neato schemes
I code in C++ for my clunky Borland C++ 3.1 with slight graphics
support. (See DEEPZOOM for example, on my Geocities web page)
So I know c, z, iter and some other info which is special. Now how do
we specify color.  Remember, I still want to use Fractint's other support
such as period checking, escape detection etc.

Jay
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>
> Here's a quickie idea... use the last iterate of each pixel to generate
> texture coordinates (u,v) and then color the pixel by texture lookup.
> I hacked a little M-set program to do this and the results are fairly
> interesting from this first experiment... the possibilities are
> endless....

>      3D Paint: The Power to Create in 3D;        Rich Thomson
>      email me for more info                [e-mail]


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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 18:02:30 -0700
From: Rich Thomson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) another 24-bit coloring idea

In article <[e-mail]> ,
    "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>  writes:
> If you could explain to this forum how to specify the color of a pixel,
> given most any other information about the point in question, it would
> be a first. I have asked several times. I have some neato schemes
> I code in C++ for my clunky Borland C++ 3.1 with slight graphics
> support. (See DEEPZOOM for example, on my Geocities web page)
> So I know c, z, iter and some other info which is special. Now how do
> we specify color.  Remember, I still want to use Fractint's other support
> such as period checking, escape detection etc.

Sorry, but you can't (yet) do it in fractint.  However, the topic of
using information from the iteration to give extra inputs to 24-bit
coloring algorithms has been discussed here at length.  I've proposed
replacing fractint's current "color = iteration" paradigm with the
idea of being able to write formulas to generate the color at each
pixel.  I think this is doable, but I don't really have any
environment in which I can compile 16-bit DOS apps to be able to add
this kind of support to fractint myself.  I think it will have to wait
until fractint is 32-bit app friendly or until I do more work on
hacking xfractint to work (stymied at every turn! :) properly in the
environments available to me.

Suffice to say that this particular kind of coloring is something
like:

    u = 1.0 + real(z)/|z|;
    v = 1.0 + imag(z)/|z|;
    color = texture[u][v];

To give you an idea of how it looks, take a peek at
<URL: http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/fractals/textured-mandel.html>
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:51:53 -0600
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) another 24-bit coloring idea

Jay,

 - If you could explain to this forum how to specify the color of a pixel,
 - given most any other information about the point in question, it would
 - be a first. I have asked several times. I have some neato schemes
 - I code in C++ for my clunky Borland C++ 3.1 with slight graphics
 - support.

If you only want to specify a color index, you can see the example FRMs
posted here by Kerry Mitchell, Paul Carlson, and myself.  These show how to
write FRMs that use ordinary fractal types with new coloring techniques.
The one I posted has over 100 formulae  Since you can do this with FRMs,
you get to use periodicity checking, solid guessing, or whatever.

Of course, this only gets you as far as specifying the color index; you
can't hard-code the palette into the FRM, and right now FractInt is still a
256-color beast.  I have had good results rendering the same point with
different coloring methods, using entirely different palettes, and merging
them together with a graphics package.

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 18:49:02 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Australian users

Jason....

hahahahhaha..hhahah.....now if i only knew what that meant so i could use
the excuses too

Angela

At 07:15 PM 12/30/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Beth wrote:
>>Who needs an excuse!!!
>
>
>Oh, I use fractals as my excuse for all sorts of things,
>from being late to work ("Had to check on that deepzoom")
>to bumping into mailboxes ("That tree's bifurcation period
>had me entranced") to making disaster of dinner ("I got the
>recipe for this by translating one of Cliff Pickover's
>formulas... I call it Pickover Suprise.  Watch the peanut
>shells...)
>
>You're right, tho'... travel and exploration require no
>excuse!  :)
>Jason
>
>
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:06:13 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Missing Formula

Jay pointed out to me that I didn't include the fgz-julia formula for this
par I posted.....sorry....

goldswirl          { ; (c) wizzle 1997 - new color map
  reset=1950 type=formula formulafile=f(g(z))).frm
  formulaname=fgz-julia center-mag=7.98405e-005/6.4375e-006/1.893957
  maxiter=29570 inside=bof60 decomp=256 biomorph=0 symmetry=none
  colors=000<3>GGOLLVNNXPPZSSaTTb<3>aakddneeoggqjjollvnnxqqzsszqqzooyllv<2\
  >ggqeeobbl<2>XXfUUcTTb<2>LLV<2>SSaUUcVVd<5>ggqjjtkkunnxppzsszqqz<2>kkuii\
  sffp<4>XXfUUUTTT<2>LLL<2>SSSUUUVVV<5>gggjjjkkk<2>sss<10>XXXUUUTTT<2>LLL<\
  2>SSSUUUVVV<5>gggjjjkkk<2>sss<15>000<121>000
  }

anyway...here it is amid a mass of really fun formulas which I got from the
Fractint web site...flop them all together into formulafile f(g(z))).frm

FGZ   {
;Check out the text file FGZ.DOC for
;full details on this fractal family.
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + c;
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + c,
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-color-test   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + c;
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + c,
      |real(z)| <= 50;
      |imag(z)| <= 50
   }

FGZ-alternate-test   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + c;
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + c,
      |real(z)| + |imag(z)| >= 100;
   }

FGZ-Internals   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + c;
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + c,
      |real(z)| <= 4
   }

FGZ-4   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + c;
         z = (4 * z * z) / (z + 4) + c,
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-2   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + c;
         z = (2 * z * z) / (z + 2) + c,
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-5   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + c;
         z = (5 * z * z) / (z + 5) + c,
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-1   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + c;
         z = (1 * z * z) / (z + 1) + c,
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ_-1   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + c;
         z = ((-1, 0) * z * z) / (z - 1) + c,
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-05   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + c;
         z = (0.5 * z * z) / (z + 0.5) + c,
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Imag-3   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + c;
         z = ((0, 3) * z * z) / (z + (0, 3)) + c,
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Both-3   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + c;
         z = ((3, 3) * z * z) / (z + (3, 3)) + c,
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Both_-1   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + c;
         z = ((-1, -1) * z * z) / (z + (-1, -1)) + c,
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Alt   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + c;
         z = (c * z * z) / (z + c) + c,
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (-0.6882, -0.1729);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (-0.6882, -0.1729),
      |z| <= 4
   }

comment = {
   NOTE: that Julia sets where only one of the c variables is changed
results in distorted Julia sets.  I suspect this is because one of the
variables is still changing.  Whereas, Julias are the result of unchanging
"c" values.
   }

comment = {
   This Julia looks like a multi-limbed snake.
   }

FGZ-Julia-1   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (-0.6882, -0.1729);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + c,
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-2   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (-0.2483, 0.7406);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (-0.2483, 0.7406),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-3   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (-1.4078, 0.0222);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (-1.4078, 0.0222),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-4   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (-0.6904, 0.2958);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (-0.6904, 0.2958),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-5   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (-1.1266, 0.2666);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (-1.1266, 0.2666),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-6   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (-0.97, 0.2709);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (-0.97, 0.2709),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-7   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (-0.6908, 0.1185);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (-0.6908, 0.1185),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-8   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (-0.5892, 0.0549);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (-0.5892, 0.0549),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-9   {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (-0.4919, 0.4572);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (-0.4919, 0.4572),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-10  {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (-0.3861, 0.5291);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (-0.3861, 0.5291),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-11  {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (-0.2084, 0.6731);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (-0.2084, 0.6731),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-12  {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (0.2148, 0.5757);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (0.2148, 0.5757),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-13  {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (0.3544, 0.4021);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (0.3544, 0.4021),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-14  {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (-0.1, 0.1);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (-0.1, 0.1),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-15  {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (-0.5, 0.5);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (-0.5, 0.5),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-16  {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (0.3379, -0.03413);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (0.3379, -0.03413),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-17  {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (0.3379, 0);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (0.3379, 0),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-18  {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (0.355, 0);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (0.355, 0),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-19  {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (0.322, 0);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (0.322, 0),
      |z| <= 4
   }

FGZ-Julia-20  {
      z = c = pixel:
         z = z * z + (0, 1);
         z = (3 * z * z) / (z + 3) + (0, 1),
      |z| <= 4
   }




Readme {
; This Fractint .FRM file (c) 1993 by:
;
; [e-mail]
;
; Michael G. Wareman
; P.O. Box 1856
; Olds, Alberta, Canada
; T0M 1P0
;
}



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