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fractint Digest       Sunday, September 7 1997       Volume 01 : Number 014



In this issue:

    (fractint) Re:
    (fractint) Re:  Non-Fractal posts to the A.B.P.F. (and other NGs)
    (fractint) Millennium & NT 4.0
    Re: (fractint) Re:
    (fractint) fractint wishwish web page now online. (repost.. apologies if this causes dejavue)
    (fractint) Re:
    (fractint) Peer (?!) Review...
    (fractint) Plasma Data
    (fractint) Original Formulae?
    Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?
    Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?
    Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?
    Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?
    Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?
    Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?
    Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?
    Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?
    Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?
    (fractint) New formulas

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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 17:44:13 -0700
From: "Mike or Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re:

Hi, Peter!

>why there are XXX messages, whatever those are, credit card advertisements
for people with bad credit, and so forth, at a fractal >gallery. I am in
favor of free expression on the 'net and am not a crank or anything (at
least I hope not) but this is just something >that's been puzzling me.

I don't think there is anyone in this audience that would disagree with
you!  The non-fractal postings violate the spirit of the newsgroup and the
abpf newsgroup FAQ.  Unfortunately, we haven't been able to find a way to
stop them.

Most of the people (and I use the word loosely) who post spam to abpf are
making postings to alt.binaries.pictures.*.  And abpf is caught in the net.
 Those same people usually have a financial interest in attracting as many
others as possible to their web sites or their pyramid games.  So they
really don't care at all about the rules.  To them, only their own
self-interests matter.

We tried to discourage them by requiring certain keywords (fractal,
mandelbrot, julia, etc.) in the subject line, and then installing a retro
cancel 'bot to cancel every posting that didn't include a keyword.  We were
hoping that when they got their postings cancelled from ALL the newsgroups
by our 'bot, they would exclude us from their spam postings in order to
protect their own interests.  We were moderately successful (a RETRO 'bot
can't be completely successful, plus some of the more inventive spammers
started using the keywords in their postings!).  Then, Dick Depew, the
person who wrote and maintained the retro 'bot, had some rather serious
computer problems, and for the last 6 weeks or so, his computer has been
down more often than not, so we are getting spammed again!  Hopefully an
end to Dick's problems is in sight, but no promises can be made!

We keep trying . . .

If anyone has a brainstorm on how to solve this problem, please speak up!
Consider this a cry for help!

Linda

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Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 19:38:53 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re:  Non-Fractal posts to the A.B.P.F. (and other NGs)

Peter Jakubowicz wrote:
>
> This is not a Fractint question but I am wondering if someone can
> take a shot at it. I have been bopping around a lot to look at
> people's fractal galleries, looking for some new ideas, etc., and
> somewhere heard about alt.binaries.pictures.fractals. It was not
> available on my server, so I called and got the guy to agree
> reluctantly to add it after explaining to him what the Mandelbrot set
> is, etc. Now they were under the impression it contained pornographic
> material, which I thought would be kind of weird for a fractal
> gallery. So, anyway, I've been checking it out every day and finding
> some cool stuff there but also some unexpected things. Can anyone
> please explain (I'm really new to the internet, so maybe I sound like
> an idiot) why there are XXX messages, whatever those are, credit card
> advertisements for people with bad credit, and so forth, at a fractal
> gallery. I am in favor of free expression on the 'net and am not a
> crank or anything (at least I hope not) but this is just something
> that's been puzzling me.
>

In Usenet slang, the term "spam" refers not to a famous canned meat
product, but rather to a single article posted repeatedly to a large
number of newsgroups (as opposed to using proper cross-posting.) While
many spams are commercial and/or self-promoting, the definition of spam
is strictly quantity-based.

"Spam" postings are a flagrant abuse of Usenet. In their worst form,
these mass-postings are carried out by automated programs, which bombard
dozens or even hundreds of newsgroups with junk articles. Like
telemarketers who annoy thousands of people with irritating phone calls
in the hope of finding a few lucrative customers, "spammers" attempt to
publicize their services or views through notoriety and sheer volume of
posting.

"Spam" is destructive for several reasons. It not only wastes the time
of thousands of people who must wade through the junk postings to read
articles of interest, it also wastes the money of those who pay to read
Usenet news. If "spam" postings were not discouraged or restricted by
system administrators, Usenet would be in danger of being swamped by
junk articles, damaging the very medium such posters hope to exploit.

Usenet is intended not as an advertising billboard or channel for
electronic junk mail, but as a free forum for the discussion and
exchange of ideas. If you wish to make a commercial posting informing
readers of your services, investigate the "biz" hierarchy of newsgroups,
which exists for such purposes. Be courteous to others by posting
responsibly; you will not only help to improve the quality of Usenet but
also avoid the backlash risked by ignoring basic rules of "netiquette".

In a nutshell, newsgroups are a means of "public discussion".  Newsgroup
articles (messages) look like e-mail, but they can be read (potentially)
by millions of people all over the world.

Newsgroup articles are distributed via "news servers", which contain
databases of articles, and are operated by Internet service providers,
schools, universities, and companies.  There is no "central" server on
Usenet.  A newsgroup article propagates from one server to another,
starting from the server where it is first posted.

"Moderated" newsgroups are sort of an exception, in that all articles
are first forwarded via e-mail to a "moderator" for approval.  The
moderator posts them on his/her news server, and from there they
propagate as described below.  But different moderators use different
news servers.

Ideally, all the articles in a newsgroup travel to all sites (news
servers) that carry the newsgroup.  This means that when you post an
article, the final result is tens of thousands of copies, all over the
world.

More specifically, when you post an article, it goes first to your
"local" news server (operated by your Internet service provider,
company, or school).  Your server then sends copies of the article to
its "neighbors," that is, to servers with which it has agreed to
exchange articles.  Those servers in turn send copies to *their*
neighbors.  Eventually every server that carries the newsgroup has a
copy.

Most servers normally send articles to other servers more or less in the
order of arrival.  This sequence can get scrambled for various reasons,
which is why you often see responses before the "original" article
arrives.

News server administrators make arrangements among themselves about
which newsgroups they exchange.  The "receiving" server's admin tells
the "sending" server's admin which newsgroups he/she wants to receive.
The "sending" server's admin configures his/her server to send only
those newsgroups.

There are two methods that servers know which sites they've already
visited and how a message avoids the same site twice.  Servers usually
use both of them, in sequence:

1. The "Path:" header line shows the sites that the article has traveled
through, so far, between the originating server and the current server.
If the "receiving" server appears in the "Path:" line, the "sending"
server does not try to send the article because it knows that the
"receiving" server has already received a copy.

2.  The "Message-ID:" header line contains an identifying code which is
different for every article.  Before transmitting the article, the
"sending" server asks the "receiving" server, in effect, "Do you have an
article with Message-ID such-and-such?"  The "receiving" server responds
either "No, please send me a copy," or "Yes, I have it already,"
whereupon the "sending" server either sends the article or goes on to
the next one.

Each news server "expires" (removes) old articles, usually once a day,
to make space for new ones.  Most servers do this based on the number of
days an article has been on that server.  The "expiration time" varies
from one server to another, and can also vary from one newsgroup to
another, on the same server.  It might be a few days, or it might be two
weeks or more.  So, even after an article expires from your own server,
it is probably still visible on many other servers.

Note, however, that even though you cannot see an article any more, it
may still be present on your server.  Most news-reading software keeps
track of which articles you've read, and shows them to you only once.
This way, you don't have to wade through the same articles over and over
and over again.  There should be a command or button or something which
"shows all" or "shows previously-read" or "unmarks" articles, so that
you can see all the articles that have not yet expired from your server.


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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 11:12:00 +0200
From: "Stefan Wolfrum" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Millennium & NT 4.0

[I tried to post this on Aug 28 but up to today (Sep 5) it
didn't show up. So I try it a second time here.]

(List owner's note - this list has a security feature that accepts
postings only from list members. If your return address is not the
same as the email address you subscribed with, your posting will
bounce. I am posting this message manually. Tim)

Hi,

I have had the same problems with NT 4.0 - and still have them.
I asked several questions to Matrox' tech support but the answers
couldn't help me. Here are CCs:

- ---Question #1---
Hi,

I have problems with SVGA modes when starting DOS application
from a DOS prompt, eg FRACTINT. My monitor can't sync any
SuperVGA video mode! I have no sync problems with the Windown
NT 4.0 drivers. In addition to that: it makes a difference whether
I start FRACTINT from the DOS prompt in window on the Windows
desktop or from a DOS prompt in full screen mode (text mode).
In the first case FRACTINT says that these video modes are not
available with my adapter, in the latter case it tries to switch into
the SVGA mode (from 640x480x256 to 1280x1024x256) but
obviously cannot sync it.

Here's my configuration:
Matrox Millennium, 4.0MB, RAMDAC TVP3026A, 220MHz, Serialnumber
AAC42011, VGA BIOS-Version 2.3, MGA PowerDesk-Version 3.12.046,
DisplayDriver Version 3.12.046.
Monitor's horizontal line frequency: up to 84kHz.

Do you need more info?

Thanks,
Stefan.
- ------

- ---Answer #1---
Try the mgamon utilty from the setup directory on th mill cd. this will
setup the monitor for dos mode.
Chris.
- ------

- ---Question #2---
Chris,

I tried the mgamon.exe utility that came with the bios23 update
but everytime I start it from Windows NT 4.0 it produces a
horrible sound through my computer's speaker and then just says
"No board(1)".

What now?

Thanks,
Stefan.
- ------

- ---Answer #2---
The mgamon.exe file was not intended to be used with windows nt.  It is for
dos, but can also work with win95 and win3.1

ThankYou
- ------


So I still have no idea how to solve this problem.

Stefan.



- ---
Stefan Wolfrum ([e-mail])
University Of Bonn, Germany
Computer Graphics Research Group
Private URL: http://titan.cs.bonn.edu/~wolfrum




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Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 20:13:05 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re:

Mike or Linda Allison wrote:
>
> We keep trying . . .
>
> If anyone has a brainstorm on how to solve this problem, please speak up!
> Consider this a cry for help!
>

There is only one way:  A Moderated Newsgroup.

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Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 02:27:53 +0100
From: robin bussell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) fractint wishwish web page now online. (repost.. apologies if this causes dejavue)

Hi Folks,



  In view of the fairly large number of requests for new features in
fractint that this group gets I have put up a new web page where such
things can be recorded in easily viewable form. It will be watched by
the members of the Fractint development team for new ideas and will act
as more of a central point to gather information than email to
individual programmers can be, putting your ideas forward this way gives
a better chance of the right person finding out.



So don't be shy! go and have a look at:



http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/robin.b2/olig/fracwish.htm



See you there!

            Robin Bussell, stone soup group.

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Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 00:57:40 -0400
From: Barry Bluestein <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re:

Spammers (i.e. mass E-mailers') will simply send their garbage to all
'binaries' groups, or worse, ALL newsgroups at all.

Peter Jakubowicz wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
>     This is not a Fractint question but I am wondering if someone can
> take a shot at it. I have been bopping around a lot to look at
> people's fractal galleries, looking for some new ideas, etc., and
> somewhere heard about alt.binaries.pictures.fractals. It was not
> available on my server, so I called and got the guy to agree
> reluctantly to add it after explaining to him what the Mandelbrot set
> is, etc. Now they were under the impression it contained pornographic
> material, which I thought would be kind of weird for a fractal
> gallery. So, anyway, I've been checking it out every day and finding
> some cool stuff there but also some unexpected things. Can anyone
> please explain (I'm really new to the internet, so maybe I sound like
> an idiot) why there are XXX messages, whatever those are, credit card
> advertisements for people with bad credit, and so forth, at a fractal
> gallery. I am in favor of free expression on the 'net and am not a
> crank or anything (at least I hope not) but this is just something
> that's been puzzling me.
>
>     And now this is a Fractint question: when I run my demo program,
> which I actually find quite helpful, it freezes after printing an
> image of the Mandlebrot set (it's on the second demo file, I believe).
> Is it my computer, or should I go look through the source code?
>
>                                                     thanks and i
> apologize if i've asked anything really dumb, Peter Jakubowicz
>
>
>
>
>
>



- --
Barry Bluestein
Design Technical Advisor
USAID/Jamaica TeleJamaica Project
809-926-5001

2 Hainning Rd
Kingston 5, Jamaica W.I.



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Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 11:49:18 -0600 (MDT)
From: Jason Hine <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Peer (?!) Review...

Damien,
    Well, I thought I had figured the problem out, but it seems that
no matter what I do, I cannot get any more than the first 50 iteration
values to read in correctly.  The copy of my program below *should*
compile for you with a C++ compiler (I use gcc with the -lgpp switch).
The header reads in perfectly, and then the program is supposed to read
in the first 100 pixel itteration values and store them in a dynamically
declared array (if you have a tip on how to dynamically declare a 2d
array, I'd be interested to hear it!).  The first 50 iteration values
read in just fine, but the next fifty are being misread.

    You;ve been a great help already, Damien; if you have any
suggestions for me, I'd be grateful for the help.  Have a good weekend!

    Jason


- ---------------------- Begin DEEP_ONE.CC ----------------------


#include <iostream.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <string.h>
#include <fstream.h>

struct array {
  unsigned long val[1900];
};

void main(void)
{
  char buf12[12];
  char buf2[2];
  char buf4[4];
  char buf1[1];
  array *arr_ptr;
  short xdots, ydots;
  int i, j, k, count = 0;
  unsigned long iteration;
  char iter[3];
  int loc, vbuf;
  long maxiter=0;
  ifstream img_file;
  ofstream key_file;

  cout << "EOL buffer size: " << endl;
  cin >> vbuf;

  // Open image file
  img_file.open("iterates.tga", ios::in|ios::binary);

  // Check to see if file was successfully opened
  if (img_file.bad())
    {
    cerr << "Cannot open ITERATES.TGA...\n" << flush;
    exit(8);
    }

  // Read in header information
  img_file.read(buf12, 12);
  img_file.read(&xdots, 2);
  img_file.read(&ydots, 2);
  img_file.read(buf2, 2);
  img_file.read(&maxiter, 4);

  // Check for correct file size of 50x38
  if ((xdots!=50)||(ydots!=38))
    {
    cerr << "Incorrect Image Size in ITERATES.TGA...\n"
         << "  Image size must be 50x38, use 'v' to\n"
         << "  set an explicit viewwindow size.\n" << flush;
    exit(8);
    }

  // Print out header information
  cout << "xdots: " << xdots << endl << "ydots: " << ydots << endl;
  cout << "maxiter: " << maxiter << endl;

  /**************************
    Array Population Section
   **************************/

  arr_ptr = new array;

  count = 0;

  // Read in two 'lines' of TGA file...
  for(i=0;i<100;i++)
    {
    img_file.read(iter, 3);
    iteration = iter[0] + (iter[1] << 8) + (iter[2] << 16);
    arr_ptr -> val[i] = iteration;
    }

  //The first 'line' (50 values) read in fine, but the next one
doesn't...?

  // testing...
  for(i=0;i<38;i++)
    {
    for(j=0;j<50;j++)
      {
      loc = i * j;
      cout << arr_ptr -> val[loc] << " ";
      }
      cout << endl;
      cin >> iter;
   }
}


- -------------- End DEEP_ONE.CC -------------------

 _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______ _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _
 _ __ ___                          ___ __ _
 _ __ ___         Jason N Hine              ___ __ _
 _ __ ___        GIS Specialist              ___ __ _
 _ __ ___      Colorado State University          ___ __ _
 _ __ ___ Pedology and Soil  Information Systems Lab  ___ __ _
 _ __ ___        [phone]              ___ __ _
 _ __ ___  http://boralf.agsci.colostate.edu/~jason   ___ __ _
 _ __ ___        [e-mail]          ___ __ _
 _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______ _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _

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Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 09:35:14
From: Mike Sukop <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Plasma Data

Hi:

Mike Sukop here. New list member, new FRACTINT user, new Ph.D. candidate at
the University of Kentucky. Specialize in fractal applications to soil
science, especially surface chemistry.

I would like to be able to get an ASCII file (x,y,z) of the data that makes
up a Plasma fractal. I looked for the subroutine PLASMA() in CALCFRAC.C but
couldn't find it. (I'm a returning student and don't know 'C' yet either --
It wasn't around when I was last in college.) Is this possible? It seems
like it would be almost trivial.

Alternatively, does any one know the where to get the original PLASMA.ARC
Pascal program distributed by Bret Mulvey or how to get in touch with him?

Does anyone know of other Random Mid-point Displacement fractal generating
programs that might have ASCII output?

Finally, does any one know how the 'graininess' and possibly other
parameters of plasma clouds translates into their fractal dimension?

Thanks,
MS





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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 11:53:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: A M Kelley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Original Formulae?

I have a tiny question. I would like to know if there's a way to access
the basic formulae in Fractint, ie, to see, say, the basic Mandelbrot
formula in a text editor. I'm trying to understand writing formulae by
attempting to reproduce the basic ones myself by starting with Lambdafn,
and for the life of me I can't make anything Fractint will accept. This is
what I came up with:
Lambdafn {
z(0)=pixel, (also tried z=pixel and z=0=pixel (monkey at keyboard approach))
z(n+1)=lambda*fn1(z(n)),
|z|<64
}
Naturally if I am unable to figure out something like this, my confidence
in coming up with a new formula on my own is not very strong.<G> No matter
how I alter that, Fractint tells me (sternly, with that awful raspberry it
makes when it dislikes something) that z is undefined.
  I've seen the formula for Mandelbrot in frmtutor.txt, so I have one, but
I'd like to be able to see the others.--Alice, feeling doomed and mortified<G>





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Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 11:18:30 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?

A M Kelley wrote:
>
> I have a tiny question. I would like to know if there's a way to access
> the basic formulae in Fractint, ie, to see, say, the basic Mandelbrot
> formula in a text editor.

Here's two things that will help you in creating formuals:

At the DOS prompt where you have Fractint, type in "makedoc fractint" to
create a lengthy document that explains all of the bells and whistles of
using the program, including the various formulas that accompany it. You
can either print it or read it on screen if you wish. You can also
access the document directly within Fractint by hitting the F1 key. You
do not have to type "makedoc fractint" to access the online document
because it's part of the program. I mentioned the "makedoc fractint"
command because many of us like to keep a print out by our side for
reference while using the program.

Also, go to http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/formulas/ and download
FRMTUT.ZIP. It's a PKZIPPED 41 kb file that'll teach you all about
writing formulas.

These two documents will answer all your questions.

Furthermore, you can read the fractint.frm and other files with the .frm
extension with a word processing program (or at the DOS prompt using the
EDIT or E function) to see how other people write their formulas. And,
you can study the formulas presented here or at the fractal art list
server.

Formula writing for Fractint is not hard and is lot of fun. Go to it!

Bob Margolis
[e-mail]
Curator of the Opus Series of fractals on abpf.

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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 12:42:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: A M Kelley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?

Thanks Bob...I have Fractint.doc and Frmtutor, and they don't show the
basic formulae like lambda. I know how to read other people's forumulae in
a text editor. I'm looking for the basic Fractint formulae.--Alice



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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 14:54:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: A M Kelley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?

I'm getting feedback that my question is not clear. Here is what I want.
When you go into Fractint and hit T you are taken to the fractal types. I
want the formulas for those types. Going to fractal type "formula" gets
you to the formulas in FRACTINT.FRM. I want to know if there is a way to
see the formulas as they would look in the text editor for the other basic
types such as mandelbrot. I realize that when I see the mandelbrot and hit
"z" I will get a blue screen that shows the initial condition and
iteration. That information is insufficient for typing out a formula in a
text editor that will make a mandelbrot. I showed that with my attempt to
recreate the lambda formula, where I used the information given me by the
"z" key to try to recreate the lambda formula. If there is a file in
Fractint that lists the formulas for the types, I can't find it. --Alice


On Sun, 7 Sep 1997, A M Kelley wrote:

> Thanks Bob...I have Fractint.doc and Frmtutor, and they don't show the
> basic formulae like lambda. I know how to read other people's forumulae in
> a text editor. I'm looking for the basic Fractint formulae.--Alice
>
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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 14:58:40 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?

Hi Alice,

>> Thanks Bob...I have Fractint.doc and Frmtutor, and they don't show the=

>> basic formulae like lambda. I know how to read other people's
>> forumulae in a text editor. I'm looking for the basic Fractint
>> formulae.--Alice

  Some of these formulas are in Chuck Ebbert's formula files: builtn.frn,=

builtn01.frn and builtn2.frn.  I don't know if they are in Spanky's archi=
ve
but you can find the formulas in the Orgfrm compilation and reconstruct t=
he
files.  Go to:
    http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html
  and download George Martin's Orgfrm package.

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 15:42:21 -0400
From: Oliver Loveday <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?

A M Kelley wrote:
>
> I'm getting feedback that my question is not clear. Here is what I want.
> When you go into Fractint and hit T you are taken to the fractal types. I
> want the formulas for those types. Going to fractal type "formula" gets
> you to the formulas in FRACTINT.FRM. I want to know if there is a way to
> see the formulas as they would look in the text editor for the other basic
> types such as mandelbrot.
Alice, whenever you choose a formula to process in Fractint, and go to
the parameter options screen, the formula is presented in a window
underneath the options.
Ie. you hit "T", choose a formula, then the next screen is the options
screen. This is where you should be able to see the formula. Then you
hit enter and the generating screen comes up and starts writing the
fractal. Is this the information you are trying for here?
    The other option is to open fractint.frm in any text editor and
printing it out. You will have a printout of every formula in that file
(all the default formulas that show up when you hit "T".)
Hope this helps.
    Oh, yes, hey everybody. I've been on the list for a few weeks. Mostly
following the discussions and printing out the good stuff. I am an
artist that studied physics for a short bit before I switched to art 25
years ago. Haven't given up my love of numbers yet. I will post a few of
my works in the newsgroup or my web page sometime soon and let you all
know. The discussion in this list have been helping me along some, but
am using fractint on a 486 (running it on a zip drive disk) so some of
the platform discussions don't do me any.
Cheers,
Oliver!

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Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 15:37:27 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?

A M Kelley wrote:
>
> I have a tiny question. I would like to know if there's a way to access
> the basic formulae in Fractint, ie, to see, say, the basic Mandelbrot
> formula in a text editor. I'm trying to understand writing formulae by
> attempting to reproduce the basic ones myself by starting with Lambdafn,
> and for the life of me I can't make anything Fractint will accept. This is
> what I came up with:
> Lambdafn {
> z(0)=pixel, (also tried z=pixel and z=0=pixel (monkey at keyboard approach))
> z(n+1)=lambda*fn1(z(n)),
> |z|<64
> }
> Naturally if I am unable to figure out something like this, my confidence
> in coming up with a new formula on my own is not very strong.<G> No matter
> how I alter that, Fractint tells me (sternly, with that awful raspberry it
> makes when it dislikes something) that z is undefined.
>   I've seen the formula for Mandelbrot in frmtutor.txt, so I have one, but
> I'd like to be able to see the others.--Alice, feeling doomed and mortified<G>
>
Alice:

As I mentioned in an earlier posting, you MUST read fractint.doc and the
formula tutor document to understand how to CORRECTLY write formulas for
Fractint. That is why I made the suggestion to read other people's
formulas as well as the texts. If you do as I and others suggest, you
will realize that you don't write z(0)=pixel, as found in many
textbooks. Under Fractint, you would initiate with z=pixel: instead of
z(0)=pixel. Instead of z(n+1)=z^2+c, for instance as your basic
Mandelbrot formula, under Fractint you write z=z^2+c, omitting (n+1).
Also by reading the Fractint document you will come to realize that
*lambda* is not in the programmed vocabulary. Don't take what you read
under section 2.12 Lambdafn to mean that you can write *lambda* into
your formulas. Instead, read section 2.35 Formula, which shows you under
*Predefined Variables* and *Precedence* what is allowed to be written
into a Fractint formula. You will readily see that *lambda* is not
listed, and, being unlisted, you cannot write it into your formula. This
is another reason you cannot get your formula to work. Also fn1(z(n)) is
incorrectly written as *n* is undefined in your formula initiator.
fn1(z), fn1(z*c), fn1(z^2-1), and fn1(sin(z)) are some of the ways to
write this part of the equation. So, instead of z(n+1)=lambda*fn1(z(n)),
you could write something like z=sin(c)*fn1(z), and then, on the last
line write |z| <= 64.

One way to write the basic Mandelbrot set under Fractint would be:

Mandelbrot {
z=c=pixel:
z=z^2+c
|z| <= 4
}

You would NOT write it as:
Mandelbrot {
z(0)=c=pixel:
z(n+1)=z^2+c
|z| <= 4
}
It just won't work for reasons explained.

Bob Margolis

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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 17:48:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: A M Kelley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?

OK. Thank you.--Alice, tail tucked



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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 17:49:25 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?

Alice,

>> I'm getting feedback that my question is not clear. Here is what I
>> want. When you go into Fractint and hit T you are taken to the fractal=

>> types. I want the formulas for those types. Going to fractal type
>> "formula" gets you to the formulas in FRACTINT.FRM. I want to know if
>> there is a way to see the formulas as they would look in the text
>> editor for the other basic types such as mandelbrot.

  I presume that you want to translate the following informations into a
formula:

    Real Part of Parameter                               0.85
    Imaginary Part of Parameter                          0.6
    Bailout Test (mod, real, imag, or, and, manh, manr)  mod
    Bailout value (0 means use default)                  0
        (lambda default is 4)
    Classic Lambda fractal. 'Julia' variant of Mandellambda.
        z(0) =3D pixel;
        z(n+1) =3D lambda*z(n)*(1 - z(n)).
    Two parameters: real and imaginary parts of lambda.

  This algorithm can be translated as follow:

  lambda-1 { ; [e-mail], Sep 1997
             ; George, if you're lurking here: don't include it
             ; in the Orgfrm compilation :-)
      z =3D pixel , lambda =3D p1 :
      z =3D lambda * z * (1 - z)
      |z| <=3D 4
      }

  But with real(p1) =3D imag(p1) =3D 0, you'll get a blank screen.  In th=
at
case, a small if..else statement will set lambda to (0.85 , 0.6):

  lambda-2 { ; [e-mail], Sep 1997
      z =3D pixel
      IF (p1 || imag(p1))        ; if p1 different from (0 , 0)
         lambda =3D p1
      ELSE                       ; if p1 =3D (0 , 0)
         lambda =3D (0.85 , 0.6)
      ENDIF
      :
      z =3D lambda * z * (1 - z)
      |z| <=3D 4
      }

  Save lambda-1 and lambda-2 in a text file with the extension .frm (for
example built-in.frm).  In Fractint, hit <t> and choose <formula>.  The
Formula Selection screen displays all the formulas included in
Fractint.frm.  Hit <F6>, choose built-in.frm and select one of the
formulas.

  Hope this helps!

        - Sylvie

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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 18:04:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: A M Kelley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Original Formulae?

Thank you Sylvie. Bob said you can't have the word "lambda" in a formula,
but I guess you can....--Alice



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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 21:30:29 -0700 (MST)
From: Kerry Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) New formulas

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I just downloaded George Martin's OrgFrom, and was compelled to follow his
excellent example.  I had about 50 formula files of my own cluttering up
my hard disk, so I sorted through them, annotated them, and cleared out
the junk and obsolete entries.  Attached is the result, zipped, uuencoded,
and in George's format.  Enjoy.

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