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fractint Digest        Tuesday, August 12 1997        Volume 01 : Number 001



In this issue:

    (fractint) test
    (fractint) Another test
    (fractint) Hello!
    (fractint) Hello!
    (fractint) Hello!
    (fractint) re: Hello!
    (fractint) Welcome folks!
    RE: (fractint) Welcome folks!
    (fractint) Questions about Les St Clair's par Gallery
    (fractint) Making myself known
    (fractint) Re: Making myself known
    (fractint) Welcome folks!
    (fractint) Welcome folks
    Re: (fractint) Welcome folks
    Re: (fractint) Welcome folks
    (fractint) Welcome folks
    (fractint) Thanks to Tim and a Question on MMX
    Re: (fractint) Thanks to Tim and a Question on MMX
    Re: (fractint) Thanks to Tim and a Question on MMX
    (fractint) Welcome folks
    Re: (fractint) Re: Making myself known
    (fractint) Re: evolver
    (fractint) Re: deep zooms
    Re: (fractint) Welcome folks!
    Re: (fractint) Re: Making myself known
    Re: (fractint) Welcome folks
    Re: (fractint) Welcome folks
    (fractint) Re: (Fractint) Welcome folks
    Re: (fractint) Welcome folks

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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:21:15 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) test

Just seeing if this works.

Tim

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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:03:57 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Another test

Another test message.

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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 19:03:56 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Hello!

I see that Lee and Sylvie have arrived. Welcome?

How does it look?

Tim

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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 21:54:28 -0400
From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Hello!

Tim,

>>I see that Lee and Sylvie have arrived. Welcome?

>>How does it look?

OK, so far!

lee

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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 03:29:31 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Hello!

Hi Tim,

>> I see that Lee and Sylvie have arrived. Welcome?

  Thanks!

>> How does it look?

  Maybe you could reformat the following paragraphs:

>> The Majordomo software this mailing list uses provides a =

>> suite of convenient
>> utilities that you can utilize.  And they're as simple to =

>> use as sending e-mail.  For further information, send an e-
>> mail message to:
  ...
>> You can contact the the fractint list administrator, Tim =

>> Wegner, by sending =

>> e-mail to:

  Cheers,

        -  Sylvie

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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 09:42:40 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) re: Hello!

Sylvie wrote:

>   Maybe you could reformat the following paragraphs:


OK, thanks. Never mind my other message, our mail crossed <g!> I
never did get an administrator message saying you were in "fractint",
but I guess you are!

The messages are changing this pass.

Tim




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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:18:39 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Welcome folks!

I see Jay and Noel have logged in. Welcome everybody! I suggest those
of you already here make yourselves known :-)

Tim


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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 18:24:19 PST
From: NOEL_GIFFIN <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Welcome folks!

    Hi all,

    This is great! Finally a forum for all those fractint questions
and technical talk.

    Cheers,
    Noel

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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 18:23:39 -0700
From: "Jay Hill"<[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Questions about Les St Clair's par Gallery

Hi Fractint users:

Here is my last post from the art list, it will be better served here.
:-)


Les wrote:
>I especially don't upload my *images*, only par files. One reason is that
>I have so many and the PAR format is so compact compared with decent
>resolution GIFs.   I do, however, claim copyright on my images. By
circulating
>them only as PAR files (which have to be generated by Fractint) the
>copyright comment is there for the user to see.

Les sent me par files for 52 images. It did not take long to look them
over.
Very nice.  I replied to him with the following, which I am posting here
because I have some questions about one of the formula. Hopefully,
someone on this list can answer.  The formula produces intriguing patterns
- - I currently use an example (Partwave, see below) as my screen back
ground.

- -- --

Now folks, these are a great series, really.  One of my favorite images is
a
variation, or a reverse zoom (zoomout) of Les' "Parting of the Waves
(ti_mod07).

What I like to do to these and FotD images is zoomout and look around a
bit.
See if there is some interesting mathematical implication or another nice
image in another corner.  I've put some of these explorations on my web
page:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825

Parting of the Waves zoomout looks like a modified MSet image with rays
going
out all around, but some are under splotches.  The cardioid has radial
bands of
color but all other components including mini-cardioid have circular
banding.

    BTW, as a long time DEEPZOOMer(TM), I saw someone calling a 10^^300+
    midget a minibrot. Well, in the age of nanotech, I suggest we call
these
    nanobrots.   :-)

Here is the file for FRACTINT 19.6.  I'd sure like to know what is going on
here. I read formula tutorial and the fractint.doc and understand a some
math.
But that just does not seem to be enough for me.  So please allow me a few
questions.

Questions:

Why the rays? Zoomout shows it is related to the angle where c is. But how
does z[n] map to these angles?  That is, how does the final exit select a
color
based on angle?  The rays are fractal, splitting as they approach the MSet.
If you can follow one, you will end up at a mininbrot.

Why the splotches? Zoomout even more and we see a band (width -45i to +45i)
going from -inf to +inf. The band is made of these splotches which near the
real line get so narrow that Moir? patterns take over.  The splotches are
mapped all over the image as you zoom in near the MSet.

Why the banding in the components and where are the splotches?  I would
have
thought the components would have them.  And why is the cardioid different
from all other components?   It must be a bof60 thing.  :-)  Turning it off
leaves the cardioid banded.

And finally, if you zoom into a spiral, you often run smack into a round
spot.
An example is Blackhole (see below) where I follow a ray into a spiral and
there it is, a spot blocking exploration which is unlike the splotches
mentioned in the previous questions. Unlike the fake MSet zones of black
which go away with higher iteration limits, this one is persistent.   What
is it? Can we make it smaller and even go away?

Thanks, Les, for the great images!  Hopefully Les St Clair or Jim Muth or
some
of the other experts can help me understand.

Jay


Partwave           { ; By Jay Hill  [e-mail]
  ;  Part wave, part matter ...
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=partwave.par
  formulaname=tent_in_mod function=abs/cos/cos/cabs
  center-mag=-0.705104/0/0.6911445 params=0/0/0.001/0 float=y
  maxiter=1500 inside=bof60 logmode=fly decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=GjzFeyEayDXxCTuBOsALo9Hl8Dh<3>43N31I21C106000301703B05D09F0DH0H<2\
  >R0NV0PZ0Rb0Uc0Y<4>g0ph0tg0r<2>a0j`0hY0eX0cV0`T0ZR0VQ0UN0QM0P<3>E0DD0BB0\
  8906703500000020<13>0pO<10>0H8<93>B1L<7>ZAkbBxdCrhEzjFzgEyeCybBx_9uX8sU7\
  oR5l<2>I2ZF1UC1O90I60C306203000<3>O82UA3ZC5cE7hG9lIBoKEsMGuOJxQMySPyTSzV\
  VyTSySPxQMuOJsMGoKElIBhG9<7>00000010621C31I<3>7Bc8Dh9HlALoBOsCTuDXxEayFf\
  z cyclerange=0/255
  }

comment!           { ; Press F2 for additional info. and credits
; inspired by Les St Clair  [e-mail]
; All images use "tent_in_mod" formula (included).
; Thanks to Sylvie Gallet for the original formula
; which was adapted from a BASIC program -
; "Tent Inside Man" by Malcolm Lichtenstein.
; Many of the color schemes used herein are
; from original maps by Linda Allison, Bob Carr,
; Sylvie Gallet, Lee Skinner and others :)
}

FRM:tent_in_mod { ; Modified Sylvie Gallet formula
; Modified tent_inside.frm (generalized by Les St Clair)
; use fn1,fn2,fn4=abs & fn3=cabs for default behaviour
; set p1=0, p2=0.001 for default behaviour
IF (p1 || flip(p1))
r = p1
ELSE
r = 1
ENDIF
z = 0 :
l = r+p1
z = z*z + pixel
UV = (5,5) - fn1((5,5) - fn2(z))
r = fn3(UV)
fn4(l-r) >= p2 && r < 4
}

Blackhole           { ; By Jay Hill  [e-mail]
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=partwave.par
  formulaname=tent_in_mod function=abs/cos/cos/cabs
  center-mag=+0.34394806924495650/+0.05607230604213421/6871.207
  params=0/0/0.001/0 float=y maxiter=150000 inside=bof60 logmode=fly
  decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=GjzFeyEayDXxCTuBOsALo9Hl8Dh<3>43N31I21C106000301703B05D09F0DH0H<2\
  >R0NV0PZ0Rb0Uc0Y<4>g0ph0tg0r<2>a0j`0hY0eX0cV0`T0ZR0VQ0UN0QM0P<3>E0DD0BB0\
  8906703500000020<13>0pO<10>0H8<93>B1L<7>ZAkbBxdCrhEzjFzgEyeCybBx_9uX8sU7\
  oR5l<2>I2ZF1UC1O90I60C306203000<3>O82UA3ZC5cE7hG9lIBoKEsMGuOJxQMySPyTSzV\
  VyTSySPxQMuOJsMGoKElIBhG9<7>000000<2>31I<3>7Bc8Dh9HlALoBOsCTuDXxEayFfz
  cyclerange=0/255
  }




  And here is one reply so far:

>The black, or brown in this case, hole at the center of the "Blackhole"
>fractal will go away with little change to the rest of the image if
>real p2 is changed from 0.001 to 0.

>Jim M.


Jay






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Date: 11 Aug 97 23:33:07 EDT
From: George Martin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Making myself known

Tim and all,

Responding to Tim's request that subscribers to this list make themselves known
- -

I am George Martin from the Detroit, Michigan area. I've been active on the
CompuServe forum for years, and more recently a participant with the Fractint
development team.

I'm glad to see this list started - I know there's lots of good Fractint work
being done outside of CompuServe, and I hope this list becomes a vehicle for all
users to share their ideas and problems.

Cheers,

George


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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 22:44:10 -0600
From: Rich Thomson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: Making myself known

In response to Tim's prodding :), I'll introduce myself.

I work as a software engineer in computer graphics (we make a program
to paint textures directly on the surfaces of 3D models for SGI
workstations), and when I get some time I create whatever I can manage
with fractals.  I tend to explore the complex exponential julia sets
(z <- lambda * e^z + c), among other things.  I've only been using
fractint for a short while; mostly I have been writing my own code and
rendering techniques.

I wrote the call for votes that created sci.fractals on usenet and its
subsequent charter.  That was a few years ago; now I avoid usenet
because of all the spam issues, unfortunately.  I've taken enough
mathematics to be able to read (and understand! :) Beauty of Fractals,
which is quite dense indeed.  It took me a few courses in topology and
fractals in general before I understood some of the things Peitgen
talks about in that book.  Until the last few years, I didn't have an
IBM PC to play with fractint much, but I did sneak a few tastes on
other people's computers.  (I used to own an Amiga.)

My interests are in the mathematics and rendering of fractals.  I've
written a little perl script that creates a DOS fractint batch file
from a par file, if that is of interest to anyone.
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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:12:41 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Welcome folks!

Hi All,

>> I suggest those of you already here make yourselves known :-)

  I am Sylvie Gallet from Drancy (France).  Fractal addict for more than =
12
years, formula writer, beta tester... and (sometimes) math teacher<g>.

  Cheers,

        -  Sylvie

PS:  Here is a small gift:

Gallet-9-02 { ; Sylvie Gallet, [e-mail], Aug 1997
   z1 =3D c =3D pixel , mz1 =3D cabs(fn2(z1)) , k =3D real(p1)*mz1
   bailout =3D real(p2) , z =3D imag(p1) :
   z1 =3D z1*z1 + c
   z1 =3D fn1(real(z1)) + flip(imag(z1)) , mz1 =3D cabs(z1)
   if (mz1 <=3D k)
      z1 =3D (z1 + 1) * p3 , mz1 =3D cabs(z1)
   endif
   if (mz1 < imag(p1))
      z =3D z1^imag(p2)
   endif
   mz1 <=3D bailout
   }

6SG90219.GIF       { ; .                                     t=3D  0:02:0=
6.22
                     ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Aug 10, 1997
                     ; <[e-mail]>
                     ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dgallet_9.frm
  formulaname=3Dgallet-9-02 function=3Dtan/sinh passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D0.181592/0.135159/1.149304/1.0758/-85/-17.744
  params=3D100/100/8/3/1.1/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D255 inside=3D0 decomp=3D=
256
  periodicity=3D0
  colors=3DaU0<23>CB0AA0AA0<28>XaIYbJZcKZcL_dM<28>yyxzzzzzz<29>smOrlMqkM<=
29>\
  CC1AA0AA0<28>OSEOTEPUFQVG<29>xxxzzzzzz<29>i_3hZ0gZ0<4>bV0
  cyclerange=3D0/255
  }

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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:05:38 -0400
From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Welcome folks

Hi All,

>> I suggest those of you already here make yourselves known :-)

  I am Lee Skinner from Albuquerque, New Mexico.  Fractaholic and fractal=
 =

artist since that first article appeared in Scientific American in the mi=
s =

'80s.  When I discovered Fractint it was up to version 12.0.

  I see that Sylvie has posted an image 6SG90219.GIF.  Very beautiful, =

Sylvie - palm trees in snow??

Lee

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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:11:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Melissa D. Binde" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Welcome folks

On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Lee Skinner wrote:

> >> I suggest those of you already here make yourselves known :-)
>
>   I am Lee Skinner from Albuquerque, New Mexico.  Fractaholic and fractal
> artist since that first article appeared in Scientific American in the mis
> '80s.  When I discovered Fractint it was up to version 12.0.

I'm Melissa Binde, going into my final year at Swarthmore College in
Swarthmore, PA, then moving out to the San Francisco Bay Area of California
to get a job  :^).

I play with Fractint in version 11 originally, but had been playing with
fractals since sometime in the 80's somewhere.  Just recently got access to
a machine running DOS again so, after a 5 year hiatus, am able to use
Fractint again.  I use Fractint as a way of diffusing my need to be creative
and a way to relax after a harrowing day at work.  [or classes, in a few
weeks :^)]


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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:20:10 -0700
From: "Mike or Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Welcome folks

Hi!  I'm Linda Allison.  My husband actually discovered Fractint, and
downloaded it in early 1995.  I think he's sorry now.  I spend so much time
in the computer room playing with it!

We live in Lacey, Washington, and there's not much unique to tell you!  But
nice to meet you all!

Lee, you said that you saw a posting by Sylvie.  Where did you see the
posting?

Linda

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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:59:50 -0400
From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Welcome folks

Linda,

>>Lee, you said that you saw a posting by Sylvie.  Where did you see the
posting?

It was in a postscript of her introduction message.  If you got it, look =
at
it again and <page down> beyond her signature.  I'll bet you overlooked i=
t!

Lee

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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:44:22 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Jon Noring)
Subject: (fractint) Thanks to Tim and a Question on MMX

I'm happy that Tim Wegner finally got this mailing list started.  It is a
much needed Internet-wide forum for discussing Fractint-specific topics for
those who can't or won't join Compuserve.  The online world is inexorably
moving to the Internet, even CompuServe, so forums limited to one service
provider will slowly but surely fade into the sunset in the next couple
years.  Tim's mailing list is, as I understand it, the interim step in this
inevitable evolution.

As the administrator for the Fractal-Art mailing list (to subscribe, see my
.sig below), I hope that both lists will be able to serve the fractal
enthusiast community, each in their own unique ways.  As some may know,
I've sort of frowned upon overly Fractint-techie talk on Fractal-Art for
various reasons I won't go into.  Tim's list is the natural and appropriate
outlet for such topics.  And I do plan to post every once in a while to
Fractint(-list) since I mostly use Fractint.

With that, I'd like a definitive answer to my Fractint-specific question.
Does Intel's new MMX technology affect the accuracy of Fractint, or does it
have no effect?  Has anybody here done actual tests?

Thanks.

Jon Noring
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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:22:11 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Thanks to Tim and a Question on MMX

Jon wrote:

> With that, I'd like a definitive answer to my Fractint-specific question.
> Does Intel's new MMX technology affect the accuracy of Fractint, or does it
> have no effect?  Has anybody here done actual tests?

Oops! I've seen this question before <g!> I know very little about
MMX, but I can think of no reason why MMX would affect Fractint in
any way: Fractint makes no attempt to use any MMX instructions. This
is hardly a definitive answer <g!> can anyone help?

Tim


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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 16:44:03 -0600
From: Rich Thomson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Thanks to Tim and a Question on MMX

In article <[e-mail]> ,
    [e-mail] (Jon Noring)  writes:
> With that, I'd like a definitive answer to my Fractint-specific question.
> Does Intel's new MMX technology affect the accuracy of Fractint, or does it
> have no effect?  Has anybody here done actual tests?

It should be a no-op unless fractint uses any of the MMX
instructions.
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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:07:52 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Welcome folks

Hi All,

>>   I see that Sylvie has posted an image 6SG90219.GIF.  Very beautiful,=
 =

>> Sylvie =


  Thank you, Lee!  Linda, let me know if you want me to post it again.

>> palm trees in snow??

  Why not?

  Cheers,

        -  Sylvie

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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:10:59 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Making myself known

Rich Thomson said:

> In response to Tim's prodding :), I'll introduce myself.

I guess I should respond to my own prodding <g!>

I've been a Fractint developer since version 6 or so and am
currently the developer team coordinator. Fractint development
continues, but it's much slower than it once was. As always, we have
more ideas than time or energy, but once in a while we get code
contributions that prod us on, or find a burst of energy from
somewhere.

I am a software developer at the Johnson Space Center working for
the United Space Alliance. I am a mathematician by training. I have
written 5 Fractint-related books. The first several were best sellers
when they came out in the early 90's. They all went out of print when
Mitch Waite sold out to MacMillan. My favorite was Fractal Creations
2nd Edition. Because the book market is now so internet oriented,
there is no hope for more books anytime soon, though if we ever port
Fractint to Windows, there would be a small window of opportunity to
do a book targetting whatever the latest and greatest Windows version
is. At the present time I am very happy to NOT be writing :-) But I
sure wish Fractal Creations was in print. It's a good book. It even
has an appendix on hypercomplex fractals, my modest contribution to
the literature.

Things in the works at the moment for Fractint:

There will be an "evolver" feature that fills the screen with
thumbnails of variations that change a particular parameter. Robin
Bussell contributed this, and several of us are helping with it.

At long last we have some SOI (Synchonous Orbit Iteration) code that
greatly speeds up some deep zooms. It is based on code by Michael
Ganss, who wrote AlmondBread. This isn't too well integrated yet.
What I obviously need to do is port the logic to arbitrary
precision, since SOI is nmost useful for very deeps zooms, and since
deeps zooms are slow and could use some speedup! It remains to be
seen how well this would work, but I have high hopes. We can also
make SOI function with any fractal types. Whether the algorithm
will actually *work* with other than Mandelbrot/Julia is anyone's
guess <g!>

Well, that's enough for now.

Tim Wegner




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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:19:40 -0600
From: Rich Thomson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: evolver

In article <[e-mail]> ,
    "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>  writes:
> Things in the works at the moment for Fractint:
>
> There will be an "evolver" feature that fills the screen with
> thumbnails of variations that change a particular parameter. Robin
> Bussell contributed this, and several of us are helping with it.

Cool!  I was going to suggest this actually :)
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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:21:53 -0600
From: Rich Thomson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: deep zooms

In article <[e-mail]> ,
    "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>  writes:
> At long last we have some SOI (Synchonous Orbit Iteration) code that
> greatly speeds up some deep zooms. It is based on code by Michael
> Ganss, who wrote AlmondBread. This isn't too well integrated yet.
> What I obviously need to do is port the logic to arbitrary
> precision, since SOI is nmost useful for very deeps zooms, and since
> deeps zooms are slow and could use some speedup! It remains to be
> seen how well this would work, but I have high hopes. We can also
> make SOI function with any fractal types. Whether the algorithm
> will actually *work* with other than Mandelbrot/Julia is anyone's
> guess <g!>

Deep Zooming and arbitrary precision math should just kick in
automatically, right?  When I zoom in to the deepest zoom supported by
floating point (I have a P90/Win95 setup) the M-set looks fine, zoom
in any deeper (tab shows "16 digit arbitrary precision" or something
like that), then the screen draws in a constant color.  Zoom back out
again and the M-set comes back.

I also have noticed that a bunch of the images in the various PAR
files being distributed around compute out as a constant color screen
for me.  Does anyone else have this problem?  If it would help, I can
send someone a GIF file saved of one of my constant color screen
situations.
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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 16:34:23 -0700
From: "Jay Hill"<[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Welcome folks!

Hi all,

I'm Jay R. Hill,  [e-mail]   and
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825
and it is not a a phony identity as Paul Derbyshire suspected
in sci.fractals.  I first got on the net about 4 years ago when I
was pushing DEEPZOOM and computing the area of the
Mandelbrot Set (which I'm still doing, BTW it is at least
1.5063036). You think you have examined a lot of nanobrots,
how about 65243?

Here in San Diego, I have been glued by fractals to one
computed screen or another since I first coded the MSet on my
8080 5 MHz 320x200 CGA DOS machine more than 10 years
ago. The machines are what - 1000x faster and has that
satisfied?  NOT!  Do any of you still have floppies storing
fractals that took 2 days to compute (but now would take
less than a minute)?  And worse still, stored in EGA? Yuk!
Oh well, we always think the latest image is the greatest
thing but then we never look back. So many new ones
appearing everyday.

I do still have 'partwave' as my screen 'background' (see my
web page) but Sylvie's might push it off for a few days.  :-)
Wooop! Er.... Oh OK, Sylvie's is now the wallpaper.

May you have a fractal life.

Jay




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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 20:11:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: A M Kelley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Making myself known

I'm Alice AKA Chessiecat....I made my first fractal in February so I'm a
newbie. My gallery is in the infinite fractal loop. I am probably the only
person on the list who makes fractals on a 486.<G> I am stuck at the point
where I need to begin writing my own formulas. I've been stuck at that
point for about 2 months now.<G> So that's my big story.<cackle>--Alice



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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 01:35:01 +0100
From: Jay Perrett <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Welcome folks

Hi to all you fractint list pioneers,
 In reply to Tim's promptings let me tell you a bit about myself:

Name: Robin Bussell.

Location: Bristol, south west England.

Physical attributes: height (lots), Hair (long), Grin (constant, hairy
too), Glasses (round).

Occupation: far too many things at once but mainly computer support.

Current philosophical preoccupations: feedback, boundary conditions,
randomness combined with the     aforementioned.

Fractal stuff: I first came across the marvels of the Mandlebrot set
while playing with Transputers around   1984-5. I started coding
fractals as a start in learning C coding for a project which has since
been swept   aside :-) . After discovering fractint at version 11 ish I
embarked on a fanatical search for the source code   amoung local BBS
(hey! remember those? ) as a CIS account was out of reach at the time.
Having achieved the   holy grai, with teh assistance of some generous
sysops I dove into the maze of code that is fractint and   implemented
my first feature.. autologmap! there then followed the freestyle mode
for palette editor and with   the help of the wonderously kind Dorothy
Gibbs, sysop of pandoras box BBS, I made finally the credits of
version 18. Since then I've thrown the image browser into the soup
(marvellously reworked into something   useable by Jonathan Osuch) an am
working on another bizzare feature to be added real soon now!
  I'm a user interface hacking type dude rather than a mathematical
boffin and have the most extreme respect   for the rest of the team that
hold the whole magnificent ediface that is Fractint together.
  Oh yeah and I still try and find time to generate some pretty images
from time to time tough never approach   the dizzy heights of the true
masters ( LS, SG, BC, CP to allude to but a few... I'm sure you know who
they   are! )


Obligatory web page:
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/robin.b2/olig/olig.htm

Other interests: Kites (esp the large 'beach skiing' variety), old style
analouge 'music' synthesis, reading   far too much email :-)

I've just completed a very pleasant summers night in the garden, coding
fractint on a laptop by candlelight (and discovering that I can type
'makefrac' and 'f_errs.txt' in the dark by muscle memory alone :-) )
and  drinking a variety of interesting bottled ales (variously organic
and light, jacobean, dark and spiced, and even chocolated flavoured) I'd
like to be able to say that this missive was keyed in thus but I
couldn't get the phone line out there, maybe next time :-)

Well  think that about summs me up! any questions?

Tim, on an administrative note, will this list be available in digest
form? and what about archives available on the web?


Cheers,
     Robin.


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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:29:42 -0700
From: "Mike or Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Welcome folks

Yes, Sylvie!  Please repost it!

Linda

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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:44:59 -0700
From: Ed Cole <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: (Fractint) Welcome folks

> I suggest those of you already here make yourselves known :-)

Hi,

    My name is Ed Cole.  I'm a gardener by trade and an amateur Fractint
enthusiast.  Lee Skinner and Sylvie Gallet are my heroes, glad to see both
of them here.


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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 02:59:08 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Doug Owen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Welcome folks

On Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:05:38 -0400, you wrote:

>>> I suggest those of you already here make yourselves known :-)

Hi folks. My name is Doug and I'm just another obsessed fractal fanatic.
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Later....Doug....(-:}

http://www.zenweb.com/rayn/doug
Thanks to PAN for adding Doug's Gallery to Surreal RAYn
NEW images are being added, check often!!!

http://members.tripod.com/~dlowen/index.html
Typical Homepage Under Construction

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