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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 3 little pars
Date: 01 Jun 1998 04:18:30 EDT




Here's 3 more parmfiles I really like.   I'm sure all will notice these use
the same color map I'm so much obsessed with! <g>  Enjoy~

Jim
(by the way.....what's a fractual ?)





New_Land_2         { ; 0:00:12.69 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 5/31/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=ident/flip passes=t
  center-mag=-0.07994079599999998/+0.08198547500000020/0.4850399/1/-135
  params=0.5/-0.5/2 bailout=4 bailoutest=manh inside=bof60 decomp=255
  colors=000B29<9>S5N<15>zz0<12>bb7``8ZZ8XX8<2>RS8PQ7NO7LM6JK6<5>795574354\
  033077<13>4zz<15>zz0<15>z1z<15>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0\
  YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<4>927
  }


Phraktal           { ; 0:02:11.60 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 5/31/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-28
  function=exp/acosh passes=b
  center-mag=1.94243/-0.0167227/1.225891/1/90 params=0/0/100/0 float=y
  outside=atan
  colors=000nP0<3>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6J\
  K6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<13>4zz<15>zz0<15>z1z<15>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<\
  15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<9>oS0
  }


Ruby               { ; 0:03:10.75 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 5/31/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=marksmandel passes=t
  center-mag=0.0493925/-1.38778e-015/5.252101/1/-90 params=0/0/1
  float=y maxiter=1000 bailout=10000 bailoutest=manh inside=bof60
  invert=0.05/0/0
  colors=000Y60<11>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<\
  2>795574354033077<10>3nn3rr5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>\
  m3bj1jf1f<10>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<1\
  4>jB0i70f70c70`60
  }

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From: "Jon Camp" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Strange things afoot....
Date: 01 Jun 1998 02:18:53 -0700

Thanks for the help :)
BTW, since i wasn't trying to create an orginal formula, how do i know if
somebody hasn't already created this formula (the messed up one)?

Jon Camp
http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/fractals_gate.html
valparaiso univeristy <><



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From: JoWeber <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Strange things afoot....
Date: 01 Jun 1998 06:26:19 -0400

Hi Jon,
>even though it didn't work the way i wanted it to, i still found to be
kinda
>cool looking.

Just playing around with your jcamp03. Here is the result.
Cheers --Jo--

jw_c3_01           { ; t=3D  0:02:27.09             Sunrise             =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Jun 01, 1998  10:48:24
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1998 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail] or
[e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D0531.frm formulaname=3Djcamp0=
3
  passes=3Db
  corners=3D-0.66697273/-0.50461484/0.02001905/-0.19645813/-0.50461484/-0=
=2E19\
  645813 float=3Dy maxiter=3D1024 inside=3Dbof60 outside=3Datan decomp=3D=
256
  colors=3D000zJ0<5>zs0zv0zs0<7>z00<9>O2J<13>000<10>O2J<8>31a00d04f<8>0cz=
<7>\
  05g00d20b<8>O2J<12>101201<8>M2HO2JS2H<8>z00<8>zs0zv0zs0<7>z00<9>O2J<2>K=
2\
  FI2EG2DE2BD2A<5>212000000<4>D1AF1CH1DJ1FM2HO2JK2LK2N<6>30b00d04f<8>0cz<=
7\
  >05g00d20b<8>O2J<13>000<4>A07C19D19D1AE1B<4>Y1Bb2Cf1A<4>z00z60zC0
  }

jw_c3_02           { ; t=3D  0:01:40.96             Morning comes       =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Jun 01, 1998  10:51:18
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1998 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail] or
[e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D0531.frm formulaname=3Djcamp0=
3
  passes=3Db
  corners=3D-0.84360832/-0.50590392/0.45076114/0.00048860054/-0.50590392/=
0.0\
  0048860054 float=3Dy maxiter=3D1024 inside=3Dbof60 outside=3Datan decom=
p=3D256
  colors=3D000C19<2>E1B<4>Y1Bb2Cf1A<4>z00<8>zs0zv0zs0<7>z00<9>O2J<13>000<=
10>\
  O2J<8>31a00d04f<8>0cz<7>05g00d20b<8>O2J<12>101201<8>M2HO2JS2H<8>z00<8>z=
s\
  0zv0zs0<7>z00<9>O2J<2>K2FI2EG2DE2BD2A<5>212000000<4>D1AF1CH1DJ1FM2HO2JK=
2\
  LK2N<6>30b00d04f<8>0cz<7>05g00d20b<8>O2J<13>000<4>A07
  }

jw_c3_03           { ; t=3D  0:07:42.81             Rainbow             =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Jun 01, 1998  11:14:58
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1998 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail] or
[e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D0531.frm formulaname=3Djcamp0=
3
  passes=3Db
  corners=3D0.2424455266/0.277612242/0.0102049345/0.0208692212/0.24998668=
65/\
  0.000150054612 float=3Dy maxiter=3D1024 inside=3Dbof60 outside=3Datan
  decomp=3D256
  colors=3DCCC0Wf<22>02y00z10y<33>_0R`0Qc0Pb0O<21>x02z00z00z00<62>zy0zz0z=
z0y\
  z0<44>Hz0Gz0Gz0Gz1<41>1iX1iY0hZ0gZ<7>0Ye
  }

jw_c3_04           { ; t=3D  0:29:51.72                                 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Jun 01, 1998  12:09:34
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1998 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail] or
[e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D0531.frm formulaname=3Djcamp0=
3
  passes=3Dt
  corners=3D0.264588749/0.26731341528/0.030180414211/0.027842608535/0.266=
691\
  77559/0.027376378766 float=3Dy maxiter=3D1024 inside=3Dbof60 outside=3D=
atan
  decomp=3D256
  colors=3D0000S2<51>01D00E00E10F<74>xPz11y<8>88r00A<6>55S<15>zJ9<30>zx1z=
z0y\
  z0<45>2Y00X00X0<8>0S2
  }

jw_c3_05           { ; t=3D  0:00:50.09                                 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Jun 01, 1998  12:09:58
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1998 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail] or
[e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D0531.frm formulaname=3Djw_jca=
mp03
  function=3Dsin passes=3D1 corners=3D-2.816/2.816/-2.922868/1.301132
  params=3D16/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D1023 inside=3Dmaxiter outside=3Dsumm
  colors=3D000006<4>00900A20A<13>U01W00W00<14>h00i10j10k20l20<11>x80z90z9=
0<8\
  0>zn0zo0zo0zo0<42>zy0zy0zy0zz0zz1zz2<65>zzz
  }

jw_c3_06           { ; t=3D  0:00:39.11                                 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Jun 01, 1998  12:13:29
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1998 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail] or
[e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D0531.frm
  formulaname=3Djw02_jcamp03 function=3Dcosxx/exp passes=3D1
  corners=3D-2.89581/3.208287/1.855685/-2.935719/1.601539/-4.14078
  params=3D16/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D1023 inside=3Dmaxiter outside=3Dsumm
  colors=3D406<2>307207208209<11>03F03G03H03I03J<3>05L06M06N17O17P<7>2CV3=
CW3\
  DX4EX4EY<7>8Kc9Ld9MeAMeANfANg<5>FSlFSlGTmGUmHVn<3>LZqLZqM_rM`rNas<3>Qdu=
Q\
  dvRevSfv<2>VhvWhwXiwYixZjx<13>grzhszhsy<5>mvymwynwynxyoxy<4>qyyryxryxsy=
w\
  syw<4>vzuvzuuyt<63>000000100<17>F50F50G50G60H60<5>K70L80L80M91L91<6>G50=
F\
  40E40E40<2>D32C22C22B12A12<10>506
  }

jw_c3_07           { ; t=3D  0:00:43.33                                 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Jun 01, 1998  12:13:42
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1998 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail] or
[e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D0531.frm
  formulaname=3Djw02_jcamp03 function=3Dtan/exp passes=3D1
  corners=3D-2.89581/3.208287/1.855685/-2.935719/1.601539/-4.14078
  params=3D16/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D1023 inside=3Dmaxiter outside=3Dsumm
  colors=3D406<2>307207208209<11>03F03G03H03I03J<3>05L06M06N17O17P<7>2CV3=
CW3\
  DX4EX4EY<7>8Kc9Ld9MeAMeANfANg<5>FSlFSlGTmGUmHVn<3>LZqLZqM_rM`rNas<3>Qdu=
Q\
  dvRevSfv<2>VhvWhwXiwYixZjx<13>grzhszhsy<5>mvymwynwynxyoxy<4>qyyryxryxsy=
w\
  syw<4>vzuvzuuyt<63>000000100<17>F50F50G50G60H60<5>K70L80L80M91L91<6>G50=
F\
  40E40E40<2>D32C22C22B12A12<10>506
  }


frm:jcamp03 {
 u =3D x =3D real(pixel)
 v =3D y =3D imag(pixel)
 :
 x =3D x^2 + flip(y^2) + u
 y =3D 2*u*y + v
 z =3D x + y
 |z| <=3D 4
}


frm:jw_jcamp03 { ; modified by JoWeber, May 98
 u =3D x =3D real(pixel)
 v =3D y =3D imag(pixel)
 :
 x =3D x^2 + fn1(y^2) + u
 y =3D 2*u*y + v
 z =3D x + y
 |z| <=3D p1
}



frm:jw02_jcamp03 { ; modified by JoWeber, May 98
 z=3Dpixel
 u =3D x =3D real(pixel)
 v =3D y =3D imag(pixel)
 :
 x =3D x^2 + fn1(y^2) + u
 y =3D 2*u*y + v
 z =3D fn2(x + y)
 |z| <=3D p1
}


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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) shell to dos
Date: 01 Jun 1998 13:38:26 +0100

I have a question concerning in-memory graphics saving. Does fractint
reserve some memory but the graphical memory to save the picture? If not
(and that's what I guess), could this be done? So when, for some reason,
when the picture is clobbered, a refresh could be made quickly. Not
spontaneously of course, but a key could be assigned for a refresh. This
would allow us fractalers to do (1) anything involving graphics in the dos
shell, (2) allow us to multitask in windows without wasting the image.

Christian




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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) shell to dos(end)
Date: 01 Jun 1998 13:14:37 +0100

Pete wrote:
>>>>I have a problem with the DOS shell under straight DOS (Win95 MSDOS
mode).  When I press 'd' I just see a black screen flash up then disappear.
However, under Win95, it does work.  Does fractint read the comspec
environment variable?  I think I tried using that, but had no success...
( <<<<

It seems to me fractint checks neither shell= nor comspec=.

By the way, a free conventional memory space of less than ~ 580 kB? I
personally load a lot of drivers, but never get under 625 kB! Don't you make
use of exp/ext mem?

Christian






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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) shell to dos
Date: 01 Jun 1998 13:42:25 +0100

Jack wrote:

>"Note: Your graphics image is still squirreled away in your video
>adapter's memory. Switching video modes will clobber part of that
>image. Sorry- it's the best we could do."
>
>This implies that the problem is not that Fractint cannot shell to
>dos. If this is correct, playing with the location of command.com
>will not help. The problem seems to be either your video card,
>Fractint just can't handle that card, or something related to memory
>management. If you check the documentation for your video card, it
>may be that it has different settings or emulations available.


The problem is *not* video card related at all. Fractint just omits any
saving of video information. It leaves the graphical memory area unchanged
and if during the shell period this part of memory is changed, fractint just
puts the changed part back on the screen. Yes, it is because of bad memory
management. Caused by fractint though!

For one, Angela once said in the context of the multithreading/multitasking
discussion that when focussing on another windows app when being in
fractint, the colors were mixed up when returning to fractint. This is
general for graphical dos apps under windows. In these cases it would be
unfair to point at the dos app as guilty though. But actually the same thing
happens as in the clobbering: the current video info is not correctly saved,
and overwritten. But this is not related to your video card.

Christian





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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Strange thing
Date: 01 Jun 1998 09:44:42 -0400

>> Your formula:

>> >frm:jcamp03 {

>> should be changed to:

>> frm:jcamp03 {

Let's avoid conflicts that may arise by calling the changed version
jcamp03pc as the older one has already been posted and already in use by
several artists.

Lee

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From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) New Fractals; both Fractint and truecolor
Date: 01 Jun 1998 09:04:04 -0700

I just wanted to let people know that finally I have new fractals up. It
took 2.5 hours to upload it all onto the server yesterday. There are 5
galleries now. I hope you like 'em.--Alice

http://www.fractalus.com/cheshirecat/gallery.htm


Alice tried to make this posting on May 12.  No one commented on it, and
after I searched my mail files, we decided her posting may never have
made it to the Fractint List.  She also hasn't received any mail from
the list in quite awhile, and can't seem to re-sub.  She'll be working
on that little problem : )

Anyway, to make a long story short (er), I'm posting the message for
her.  Her page is terrific!  Don't miss it!
Linda




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From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) flexballs pars
Date: 01 Jun 1998 09:34:14 -0700

Hi, all!

Playing with Paul Carlson's wonderful formulas today!  Here are a couple
of pars . . . I hope you like them!

Linda


06019801             { ; copyright Linda Allison created Jun 01, 1998
                     ; [e-mail]
                     ; calc time   0:01:41.77 on P166
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=flexballs_mand passes=t
  center-mag=-0.845868/-0.219053/26.93156/1/-22.488/-0.019
  params=0.08/0/0.08/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ

colors=A04pon<14>WQGUODSNC<11>000qqq<27>000wRF<6>mG8kE6jD6<4>c83a72_61Y6
\

1W51T51R41<9>000g28<28>211pon<14>WQGUODSNC<11>000qqq<28>000wRF<10>iE7gD7
\
  fC6dA5bA5<12>000g28<28>000e6Ed4Eb2E`0D<11>A04
  }

06019802          { ; copyright Linda Allison created Jun 01, 1998
                     ; [e-mail]
                     ; calc time   0:02:23.41 on P166
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=flexballs_mand passes=t

center-mag=-0.87453579817531170/-0.25611271148153270/6460/1/-22.488/-0.0
\
  19 params=0.08/0/0.08/0 float=y maxiter=20000 inside=253
  outside=summ

colors=A04pon<14>WQGUODSNC<11>000qqq<27>000wRF<6>mG8kE6jD6<4>c83a72_61Y6
\

1W51T51R41<9>000g28<28>211pon<14>WQGUODSNC<11>000qqq<28>000wRF<10>iE7gD7
\
  fC6dA5bA5<12>000g28<28>000e6Ed4Eb2E`0D<11>A04
  }

frm:FlexBalls_Mand {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
    ; p1 = radius of center of ring (0.01 to 10)
    ; p2 = one half thickness of ring (0.01 to p1)
    ;
    c = pixel
    w = z = iter = bailout = 0
    d0 = p1 + p2
    d1 = 0.382683432365 * p1
    d2 = 0.923879532511 * p1
    dsqd = d0 * d0 + p1 * p1 - (d0 + d0) * d2
    :
    w = w * w + c   ; Classic Mandelbrot set
    ;
    IF ((abs(cabs(w) - p1) < p2) && iter > 0)
     bailout = 1
     wr = real(w), wi = imag(w)
     awr = abs(wr), awi = abs(wi)
     IF (awr >= awi)
         dist = (awr - d2) * (awr - d2) + (awi - d1) * (awi - d1)
         adjust = 1
     ELSE
         dist = (awr - d1) * (awr - d1) + (awi - d2) * (awi - d2)
         adjust = 0
     ENDIF
     IF     (wr >= 0 && wi >= 0)
         range_num = 1 - adjust
     ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi >= 0)
         range_num = 2 + adjust
     ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi < 0)
         range_num = 5 - adjust
     ELSE
         range_num = 6 + adjust
     ENDIF
     ratio = sqrt(dist / dsqd)
     z = 29 * ratio + range_num * 30 + 1
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0 && |w| < 1000
}




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From: Ray Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Striations
Date: 01 Jun 1998 10:39:37 -0700


    Would some kind soul look at the par, posted below and tell me what
caused/or/causes the stiated condition.  It makes the image look like it is
a reflection on water.  The image is of less concern than the cause of the
striated rendition.
    Thanks.        Ray


Water_Shimmer      { ; Frima203-019
                     ; 6/1/98
                     ; elmont
  reset=1960 type=phoenix
  center-mag=-0.00000000000001994/-0.52562728270641750/2.443956e+012/1.382\
  3/180 params=1.1/1/-3 float=y maxiter=500 inside=0
  colors=nG4<13>yc1ze0ze0<14>nG4KKc<11>RguSivTkxUmzUmz<11>NQhMOgLMeKKckD1<\
  11>rSGrUHsVItXKtXK<11>mI5mG4lF3kD1tIZ<13>yTnzUpzUp<14>tIZh00<11>q7Fr8Hs9\
  ItAKtAK<11>k35j23i12h00nG4<13>yc1ze0ze0<14>nG4KKc<11>RguSivTkxUmzUmz<11>\
  NQhMOgLMeKKckD1<11>rSGrUHsVItXKtXK<12>kD10a00Z0
  }




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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Striations
Date: 01 Jun 1998 14:54:59 -0400

Ray,

 -     Would some kind soul look at the par, posted below and tell me what
 - caused/or/causes the stiated condition.

My first guess would be that you're at the limits of floating-point
precision.  Deepzooming isn't implemented for the phoenix type.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs)
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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From:    [e-mail] (Robert Hailman)
Subject: (fractint) Moving
Date: 01 Jun 1998 15:44:04 -0400

I will be moving to [e-mail] today.

Robert Hailman

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) New Fractals; both Fractint and truecolor
Date: 01 Jun 1998 17:20:17 EDT

Hi Alice.
A very classy page with beautifull fractals and great ease of access.
Thanks   Very Enjoyable.
Steve
Oh: P.S.  The link to fractal elite takes me to a place that isn't appearently
a place to
get information about the program???  or maybe it's just the best available at
the moment?

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) New Fractals; both Fractint and truecolor
Date: 01 Jun 1998 17:46:53 -0400

Steve,

Not that I'm Alice or anything, but given her troubles posting to the list,
it may be some time before she replies... so:

 - The link to fractal elite takes me to a place that isn't appearently
 - a place to get information about the program???

Terry Gintz's new programs are Dreamer and Medusa.  It's my understanding
that these replace Fractal Elite.

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                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint)Anti-Aliasing
Date: 01 Jun 1998 18:03:07 EDT

Grettings,
    I see the results at Silvie Gallets page and now thanks to the Cheshire
Cat Fractals page realize it can be done in Paint Shop Pro but as of yet am
not sure if this is a rogue technique developed by pioneers of visual art or
if its been around for a while.
     Is there any where that I can read of the process?
Steve

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint)Anti-Aliasing
Date: 01 Jun 1998 18:17:43 -0400

Steve,

 -     I see the results at Silvie Gallets page and now thanks to the Cheshire
 - Cat Fractals page realize it can be done in Paint Shop Pro but as of yet am
 - not sure if this is a rogue technique developed by pioneers of visual
art or
 - if its been around for a while.

Anti-aliasing has been around for a while, it's used quite a bit in all
sort of graphics rendering.

 -     Is there any where that I can read of the process?

I just put up my anti-aliasing description page:

    http://www.fractalus.com/misc/antialias.htm

Frederik Slijkerman talks about anti-aliasing on the Ultra Fractal pages:

    http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/slijkerman/truecol.htm

If you want really detailed explanations, and can stand a bit of math, ask
me privately.

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                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Coloring Algorithms
Date: 01 Jun 1998 18:28:57 -0400

In case anyone has been looking for an explanation of how
coloring-algorithm formulas work in FractInt, I've posted a short
description with examples and pictures on my web site:

    http://www.fractalus.com/misc/implement.htm

If anyone spots any errors in this page, I'd appreciate hearing about it. :)

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                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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From: "Les St Clair" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) May '98 parameters collection
Date: 01 Jun 1998 23:30:34 +0100

Hi everyone,

May's bumper par collection, which contains in excess of 750 images, is now
available from the usual spot:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/

For those who wanted the text of the messages included, I have posted an
annotated version of the parameter file at my other web site:
http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/crosstrees/fractasi.htm

So, take your pick... and enjoy the fractals!

- Les



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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Popcorn balls formula
Date: 01 Jun 1998 18:43:26 -0500 (CDT)

>Thanks (again) for all the great formulas.  The popcorn pars are all
>spectacular!

Thanks, Bill!  Here's another batch, using my 3Way
rendering method.  Nothing spectacular, but kind of
different.  It's interesting to compare the effects
of the different methods on the same formula.  I
would have used the same coordinates for the images
in all 3 sets of renderings, but the interesting spots
moved around, depending on the rendering method.

comment {
This formula applies my 3Way rendering method to the
popcorn formula.  These pars, like the other popcorn
pars I've posted, are best viewed at 1024x768 resolution,
although 800x600 will do (there's a lot of very fine
detail).

Paul Carlson
}

frm:Popcorn_3Way {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
    ; real(p1) = h in popcorn formula
    ; imag(p1) = bailout value
    ; real(p2) = escape circle radius squared
    ; imag(p2) = number of iterations to skip
    ; real(p3) = number of color ranges
    ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range
    ;
    z = w = k = iter = range_num = bailout = 0
    prev_w = pixel
    x = real(pixel)
    y = imag(pixel)
    h = real(p1)
    prev_modw2 = 1.0e20
    rad2 = real(p2)
    skip_iters = imag(p2)
    num_ranges = real(p3)
    colors_in_range = imag(p3)
    colors_in_range_1 = colors_in_range - 1
    :
    prev_x = x
    x = x - h * sin(y + tan(3 * y))
    y = y - h * sin(prev_x + tan(3 * prev_x))
    w = x + flip(y)
    ;
    IF ((prev_modw2 < rad2) && (|w| > rad2))
    bailout = 1
    IF (iter > skip_iters)
        k = 1
    ENDIF
    index = colors_in_range_1 * (rad2 - prev_modw2) / rad2
    z = (index + range_num * colors_in_range + 1) * k
    ENDIF
    prev_modw2 = |w|
    range_num = range_num + 1
    IF (range_num == num_ranges)
    range_num = 0
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0 && |w| <= imag(p1)
}

pop3w1           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                   ; t=  0:01:42.28, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pop3w.frm
  formulaname=popcorn_3way passes=1
  center-mag=-5.55112e-016/4.16334e-016/2.024068
  params=1/1/1/0/2/125
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000080<60>0V20W20V2<60>080aG0<60>zy0zz0zy0<60>aG0000<3\
  >000
  }

pop3w2           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                   ; t=  0:01:40.13, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pop3w.frm
  formulaname=popcorn_3way passes=1
  center-mag=4.88498e-015/-1.60982e-014/1.960299
  params=16/256/256/0/2/125
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000O00<60>y88z88y88<60>O00WRF<60>yp`zqayp`<60>WRF000<3\
  >000
  }

pop3w3           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                   ; t=  0:01:27.34, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pop3w.frm
  formulaname=popcorn_3way passes=1
  center-mag=4.71114/4.71114/3.091547/1/90
  params=32/1024/1024/0/2/125
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000aG0<61>zz0zz0zy0<59>aG0VVV<61>zzzzzzyyy<59>VVV000<3\
  >000
  }

pop3w4           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                   ; t=  0:01:07.07, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pop3w.frm
  formulaname=popcorn_3way passes=1
  center-mag=4.71114/4.71114/4.284637/1/45
  params=8/16/16/0/8/30
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=0I7c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG00C4<15>0zR<\
  12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeN\
  w<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<12>O00000<13>000
  }



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From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) New Fractals; both Fractint and truecolor
Date: 01 Jun 1998 17:05:54 -0700

Damien wrote:

>Not that I'm Alice or anything, but given her troubles posting to the
list,
>it may be some time before she replies... so:


I'll forward any postings to the list to Alice.  Or, of you want to
write to her directly, she's at:

[e-mail]

Linda



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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) flexballs pars
Date: 01 Jun 1998 23:10:00 -0500 (CDT)

Linda (Gumbycat) Allison wrote:

>Playing with Paul Carlson's wonderful formulas today!  Here are a
>couple of pars . . . I hope you like them!

Beautiful images, Linda!  I may have forgotten to mention it
before - when using FlexBall rendering with many Msets, including
the Mandelbrot set, at the "center" of every flexball (where the
eight segments meet at a point when p1 equals p2) is a little
midget that becomes visible when p2 is less than p1 (it may
take considerable zooming).  In this par I've zoomed into the
center of one of the flexballs in your 06019802 par and reduced
p2 from 0.08 to 0.04.  The image came out rather nice, I think,
thanks to your beautiful colormap.

Paul Carlson

fb_midget          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 199
                     ; t=  0:25:42.53, 1024x768, 60MHz Pentium
                     ; Colormap by Linda (Gumbycat) Allison
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbmand.frm
  formulaname=flexballs_mand passes=t
  center-mag=-0.87459272059483370/-0.25613163851344180/2.674729\
  e+007/1/-22.487/-0.019
  params=0.08/0/0.04/0
  float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=A04pon<14>WQGUODSNC<11>000qqq<27>000wRF<6>mG8kE6jD6<3>\
  d94c83a72_61Y61<7>E21B20810510300000g28<28>211pon<14>WQGUODSN\
  C<11>000qqq<28>000wRF<8>lG8jF8iE7gD7fC6dA5<13>000g28<28>000e6\
  Ed4Eb2E`0D<8>H06ponC05A04
  }


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From: Corey Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) can anyone help?
Date: 01 Jun 1998 23:49:26 -0700

I was wondering if I could use Fractint to generate a Poincare map (a slice
of the phase space) for the following system:

D2(x) + x = a sin(theta)
D2(theta) = b x cos(theta)

where D2( . ) is the second derivative with respect to time.
Making the substitution y = D1(x) and phi = D1(theta), the system has 4
dimensions, so obviously I need Poincare maps to get a look at the phase
space. The full system looks like

D(x) = y
D(y) = -x + a sin(theta)
D(theta) = phi
D(phi) = b x cos(theta)

I can do the iteration numerically like this:

x(t + dt) = x(t) + dt * y(t)
y(t + dt) = y(t) + dt * ( -x(t) + a * sin( theta(t) ) )
theta(t + dt) = theta(t) + dt * theta(t)
phi(t + dt) = phi(t) + dt * ( b * x(t) * cos( theta(t) ) )

Still with me? :) Anyway, I want to use Fractint to plot these iterations
somehow. I tried to make my own function file, but I'm not trying to plot a
singe number on the complex plane, so I don't know how to use that feature.
Is there anyway I can do this, or should I turn to Mathematica?

Thanks!!!

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Sit with elders of a gentle race, this world has seldom seen;
Talk of days for which they sit and wait, when all will be revealed."
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Subject: (fractint) 3 little pars
Date: 02 Jun 1998 05:49:35 EDT


Here are 3 more slices(pars) of fractal pie.....Just *art* play here. Enjoy~
Jim




Shinto             { ; 0:04:41.45 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/01/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm formulaname=groucho
  function=conj/tanh passes=1
  center-mag=-0.856385/4.44089e-015/1.090446/1/90 params=0.333/0/0/0
  float=y maxiter=50 bailout=4 inside=bof60 invert=1/0/0
  colors=000354033<11>3nn3rr5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m\
  3bj1jf1f<10>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14\
  >jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<3>5\
  74
  }


Eye_Land           { ; 0:00:36.69 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 5/31/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1821 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm
  formulaname=inandout02 function=sinh/cosxx passes=t
  center-mag=-0.336134/1.04654/0.625/1/-90 params=0.75/-0.1/0/0
  float=y outside=real
  colors=000ypk<10>xWG<15>000<15>0bc<15>zzz<15>0bc<15>000<15>zz0<15>zzz<15\
  >zz0<14>003224<13>URvXTzYVz<14>yxx<15>XTz<15>033<15>xWG<15>zzz<3>zrn
  }


Double_Trouble     { ; 0:01:51.34 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/02/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-20
  function=cabs/exp passes=1
  center-mag=-1.14141/2.55351e-015/2.056722/1/90 params=10/0 float=y
  inside=bof60 outside=real
  colors=000`K`<22>01F<20>BS8f6E<17>416<35>Qba<15>1MV<44>yU5<44>j6yj6zk7y<\
  30>zYpzYpxXo<13>aLa
  }

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From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) flexballs pars
Date: 02 Jun 1998 07:14:38 -0700

It's beautiful, Paul!  Thanks for the tips and for the image!  And I'm
glad you liked my image!
Linda

Paul Carlson wrote:
>Beautiful images, Linda!  I may have forgotten to mention it
>before - when using FlexBall rendering with many Msets, including
>the Mandelbrot set, at the "center" of every flexball (where the
>eight segments meet at a point when p1 equals p2) is a little
>midget that becomes visible when p2 is less than p1 (it may
>take considerable zooming).  In this par I've zoomed into the
>center of one of the flexballs in your 06019802 par and reduced
>p2 from 0.08 to 0.04.  The image came out rather nice, I think,
>thanks to your beautiful colormap.




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From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PAR DiGiorgi frm pars
Date: 02 Jun 1998 12:26:23 -0400

Here are 7 more pars based on Phil DiGiorgi's pd-hc_grav2 formula.

Gedeon


g-pdg-19           { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 31, 1998
                     ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=abs/abs/log/asin passes=1
  center-mag=-3.10862e-015/-0.0340561/0.3561895
  params=3/0.875/0.976/-0.976/0.7/0.7 float=y maxiter=1023
  outside=summ logmode=fly
  colors=000_m`<61>9K9xPO<61>T00Lfw<61>1GStY9<61>H910FR3JV2IU
  }

g-pdg-20           { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 31, 1998
                     ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=abs/abs/log/asin passes=1
  center-mag=-5.10703e-015/0.00957371/0.7181239
  params=11/0.875/0.976/-0.976/0.7/0.7 float=y maxiter=1023
  outside=summ logmode=fly
  colors=000oX8<61>C87sON<41>Z87Y77Y77X77X77<15>O77Gev<28>\
  7Ug7Tg7Tf7Sf7Se7Re<27>7FRoX8<61>C877EQ7IU7HT
  }

g-pdg-21           { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 31, 1998
                     ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=abs/abs/log/asin passes=1
  center-mag=-2.93099e-014/0.00957371/0.05222555/1/25
  params=33/0.875/0.976/-0.976/0.7/0.7 float=y maxiter=1023
  outside=summ logmode=fly
  colors=000epc<61>FNCzaW<61>Z33Wnz<61>7JVz`C<61>VH66IU9MY8LX
  }

g-pdg-22           { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 31, 1998
                     ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=abs/abs/log/atan passes=1
  center-mag=0/-1.42109e-014/0.01743238/1/-12.5
  params=11/0.875/0.976/-0.976/0.7/0.7 float=y maxiter=1023
  outside=summ logmode=fly
  colors=000epc<61>FNCzaW<61>Z33Wnz<61>7JVz`C<61>VH66IU9MY8LX
  }

g-pdg-23           { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 31, 1998
                     ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=abs/abs/log/atanh passes=1
  center-mag=-2.22045e-016/1.66533e-016/3.205128/1/-32.499
  params=11/0.875/0.976/-0.976/0.3/0.3 float=y maxiter=1023
  outside=summ logmode=fly
  colors=R38mGE<7>zVF<10>hAEg8Dd8C<10>000<16>_2a<3>N8mJApI\
  9kG7e<16>000<2>NNNA04VVV<2>ssswwwzzz<2>zzzqqq<2>iiigggfff\
  <2>aaa```___ZZZZZZQQQNMMKKJIHH<2>DCBBAAA98887<6>h2rwqUd2l\
  tnT_2fpjSV2`lgQQ1VhcPL1Pe`OG1JaXMB0DYULF0IUQJJ0NQNIN0SNJH\
  S1YJGFW1bFCE_1gB9Cc1l75Bh2r319321<14>321E54J65<2>T87W98YA9\
  <6>jDClEDlED<4>zVF<3>rLFJApnGEJAnlFEJ9ljEDJ9jgDCJ8heCCJ8eb\
  BBJ7c`AAJ6aY89J6_V68J4TXQJJ3RbVNJ3Ph_QJ2NlcTJ1KpgW855<7>\
  855955B55<19>e7Cg8DhAEjCEkEEJ5YR38J5V
  }

g-pdg-24           { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 31, 1998
                     ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=abs/asin/log/asin passes=1
  center-mag=-1.22125e-015/9.99201e-016/3.969073
  params=0.7/5/0.17/0.17/0.1/0.1 float=y maxiter=1023
  inside=160 outside=summ logmode=fly
  colors=BTfbpc<61>CNCzSR<2>zRQyRQyQQxQPxQP<54>W33Oiz<61>\
  4JVw`C<61>KC43IU6MY5LX
  }

g-pdg-25           { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, Jun 01, 1998
                     ; Formula by Phil DiGiorgi
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=abs/asin/log/asin passes=1
  center-mag=-8.88178e-016/-1.33227e-015/0.4674965/1/90
  params=2/5/0.11/0.11/0.11/0.11 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=0
  outside=summ logmode=fly
  colors=000HNP<4>HOQIPQIPRIQRJQS<4>LTVLUWMVXNWY\
  <2>OY_PZ`Q_b<6>VgjWhkWhk<8>PZ`OY_OX_<6>KSUJRTJQ\
  SJQS<3>HOQHOQHOPHOPHNPHNPHNPTNB<5>VOBVOBWOCWPCXP\
  CYQCZQDZRD`SD`TE<5>gYGiZHj_Hl`ImaI<4>ugLvhLvhL\
  <3>pcJnbJmaIl`I<2>gYGfXGeWFdVFcUEaTE`TE`SDZRD<3>\
  WPCWOCVOBVOBUNB<4>TNB8NY<3>8OY8OZ8OZ8P_8P_<6>9Te\
  AUfAVh<4>B_oC`pCarDbsDcuDdvEexEfzEhzFhzFhzEhzEfz\
  <6>B_oBZmBYlBXjAWi<6>9Ra8Q`8Q`<2>8OZ8OZ8OY8OY8NY\
  8NY8NYQGF<3>QHFRHFRHGSIGSIG<6>YMKZNL_OM`PNaQO<3>\
  fURhVSiWUjXU<3>qaZrb_rb_<3>lZVjXUiWU<2>eTQdSPcRP\
  <5>XMKWLJVKIUKITJHTJH<2>RHGRHFQHFQHFQGFQGFQGF
  }

frm:pd-HC_Grav2     {; formula by P. DiGiorgi, May, 1998
       ; P. Carlson's Hi_Cycle method (modified)
       ; applied to Mark Christenson's Gravijul formula
    z = w = iter = range_num = bailout = 0
 pa = real(p3), pb = imag(p3)
  w = pixel
  c = p2
  i = (0,1)
     k = 1.2 - pb
     :
  u = fn1(w)
  w = fn3(p1/fn2(u*u))
  wr = real(w)
     w = w - wr + abs(wr) - c
  angle = atan(imag(w)/wr)
     ka = k * angle / pb
     rw = k * cos(angle) + pb * cos(ka)
     iw = k * sin(angle) + pb * sin(ka)
     ww = rw + i * iw
     ww = fn4(1 - ww)/ww
  dist = abs(|w|-|ww|)
     IF (dist < pa && iter > 1)
 bailout = 1
 index = 63 * dist / pa
 z = index + range_num * 63 + 1
     ENDIF
     iter = iter + 1
     range_num = range_num + 1
     IF (range_num == 4)
 range_num = 0
     ENDIF
     z = z - iter
     bailout == 0 && |w| < 100
 }


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From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint on a 400 MHz computer
Date: 02 Jun 1998 14:09:17 -0500

Hi Fractalizens:

Just got word this afternoon that my 400 MHz Compaq Presario 4880
Pentium II was shipped to me today and I can expect it on my doorstep
tomorrow morning.

I discussed the Fractint program with the caller and told him about the
program's not recognizing some video cards. He told me that if I have
any problems in getting it to work on my new machine--it works quite
well on my current 486/66--he will help me to get it working properly.
He's a technician who works solely on the Compaq Presario line and
offered his help because of the long delays getting my new computer
because of some unforseen glitches.

So, the next time you guys may hear from me is when I'm able to use
Fractint on a 400 MHz machine. Keep your Mandelbrots crossed for me,
would you please? Thanks.

Bob

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From: George Martin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Orgform.exe
Date: 02 Jun 1998 18:43:08 -0400

William,

>
This may already be fix in new version  but I found Orgform gave an
"unspecified exception" running in DOS under Win95 and just hangs in pure
DOS
on a P-II 350.
Worked fine before the upgrade.
<

You're the only one to report this so far. It sounds like the same problem
that people were having with partobat - I'll check with Mike Peters to see
if his solution, which I gather is working for people, can be used in
orgform too.

Incidentally, you can run orgform with an undocumented switch "/dborg" (for
"debug orgform") in addition to any other switches you may be using, which
will cause the program to give information, probably useful only to me,
about the circumstances surrounding the termination of the program. That
won't be of much help when the program hangs the computer, though. :)

Regards,

George Martin


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From: "William J. Hawley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Orgform.exe
Date: 02 Jun 1998 19:07:35 -0500



George Martin wrote:

> Incidentally, you can run orgform with an undocumented switch "/dborg" (for
> "debug orgform") in addition to any other switches you may be using, which
> will cause the program to give information, probably useful only to me,
> about the circumstances surrounding the termination of the program. That
> won't be of much help when the program hangs the computer, though. :)

Using the /dborg parameter gives---"Error in file read or write function"
"Programmer refference:  See line 1932"
"Memory allocation error"
"Cannot start COMMAND, exiting"

Noticing that if always fails on the same frm file, I renamed that frm to just
fr and then I got no error message and got the "unspecified exection" message
from Win95.
The rest of the message is "Fault location 095:012a" and "Interrupt 0"

Renaming the file back seems to make it fail on a different frm file.  Judging
from the two failures I would say that /dborg is slowing the machine down just
enough to work for a while.
The unspecified exception is almost instantaneously present and the other one
runs thru 5 or 5 pars then dies
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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) One last popcorn formula
Date: 02 Jun 1998 21:16:04 -0500 (CDT)

comment {
Here's one last popcorn rendering.  All of the pars
produce gold images against a black background.  In these
images I've  used the color ranges in ways I didn't originally
have in mind when I developed the method.

Paul Carlson
}

frm:Popcorn_R4 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
    ; real(p1) = h in popcorn formula
    ; imag(p1) = bailout value
    ; real(p2) = size factor
    ; imag(p2) = iterations to skip
    ; real(p3) = number of color ranges
    ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range
    ;
    z = bailout = range_num = iter = 0
    x = real(pixel)
    y = imag(pixel)
    h = real(p1)
    k = (0.5,0.5)
    size = real(p2)
    skip = imag(p2)
    num_ranges = real(p3)
    colors_in_range = imag(p3)
    index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / size:
    ;
    prev_x = x
    x = x - h * sin(y + tan(3 * y))
    y = y - h * sin(prev_x + tan(3 * prev_x))
    w = x + flip(y)
    ;
    IF (iter > skip)
    dist = abs(|w - k| - 0.1)
    IF (dist < size)
        bailout = 1
    ENDIF
    ENDIF
    IF (bailout)
    z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1
    ENDIF
    range_num = range_num + 1
    IF (range_num == num_ranges)
        range_num = 0
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0  && |w| < imag(p1)
}

r4pop01          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                   ; t=  0:03:06.36, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4pop.frm
  formulaname=popcorn_r4 passes=1
  corners=0.263252/0.30695794/0.13213412/0.43807563/0.132134218\
  /0.30695783 params=4/512/64/0/2/125
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000<149>000aG0<35>yx0zz0zy0<42>aG0000<21>000
  }

r4pop02          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                   ; t=  0:01:46.55, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4pop.frm
  formulaname=popcorn_r4 passes=1
  corners=1.1280791/1.2330464/0.81317709/1.5479484/0.8131771/1.\
  2330464 params=3/512/64/0/2/125
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000<143>000aG0<59>zy0zz0zy0<42>aG0000<2>000kkk
  }

r4pop03          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                   ; t=  0:07:38.58, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4pop.frm
  formulaname=popcorn_r4 passes=1
  corners=2.16742097/2.23072385/1.9775123/2.4206326/1.97751227/\
  2.2307239 params=3/512/10/0/2/125
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000<149>000aG0<35>yx0zz0zy0<42>aG0000<20>000kkk
  }

r4pop04          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                   ; t=  0:01:47.33, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4pop.frm
  formulaname=popcorn_r4 passes=1
  corners=-0.80768267/-0.5913153/-1.4627899/0.051782299/-1.4567\
  85/-0.59732004 params=0.5/4/10/0/1/240
  float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000<25>000aG0<14>xw0zz0yw0<8>gR0eO0aG0000<29>000aG0<14\
  >xw0zz0yw0<11>aG0000<28>000aG0<15>zz0<11>aG0000<29>000aG0<14>\
  xw0zz0yw0<11>aG0000<17>000
  }


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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) Absolutely the last Popcorn pars
Date: 03 Jun 1998 00:45:47 -0500 (CDT)

comment {
Here are three pars to be used with my FB_Popcorn formula
that I posted a couple of days ago.  These pars are different
in that the image is inverted with respect to a circle of
radius=1 centered at the origin.  But what really makes these
images worthwhile is Linda's colormap.

Paul Carlson
p.s.  I decided to include the formula after the pars.
}

fbipop01          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                    ; t=  0:02:22.64, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium
                    ; Colormap by Linda (Gumbycat) Allison
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbpopcrn.frm
  formulaname=fb_popcorn passes=1
  center-mag=3.52816/3.52816/0.6224117/1/44.999
  params=5/64/6/6/0/0
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0
  colors=A04pon<14>WQGUODSNC<11>000qqq<27>000wRF<6>mG8kE6jD6<3>\
  d94c83a72_61Y61<7>E21B20810510300000g28<28>211pon<14>WQGUODSN\
  C<11>000qqq<28>000wRF<8>lG8jF8iE7gD7fC6dA5<13>000g28<28>000e6\
  Ed4Eb2E`0D<11>A04
  }

fbipop02          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                    ; t=  0:02:20.93, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium
                    ; Colormap by Linda (Gumbycat) Allison
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbpopcrn.frm
  formulaname=fb_popcorn passes=1
  center-mag=8.88178e-015/-1.42109e-014/0.02276284/1/45
  params=5/64/6/6/0/0
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0
  colors=A04pon<14>WQGUODSNC<11>000qqq<27>000wRF<6>mG8kE6jD6<3>\
  d94c83a72_61Y61<7>E21B20810510300000g28<28>211pon<14>WQGUODSN\
  C<11>000qqq<28>000wRF<8>lG8jF8iE7gD7fC6dA5<13>000g28<28>000e6\
  Ed4Eb2E`0D<11>A04
  }

fbipop03          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                    ; t=  0:02:21.27, 1024x768, 60 MHz Pentium
                    ; Colormap by Linda (Gumbycat) Allison
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbpopcrn.frm
  formulaname=fb_popcorn passes=1
  center-mag=4.69809/4.69809/0.1726094/0.5405/44.998
  params=5/64/6/6/0/0
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0
  colors=A04pon<14>WQGUODSNC<11>000qqq<27>000wRF<6>mG8kE6jD6<3>\
  d94c83a72_61Y61<7>E21B20810510300000g28<28>211pon<14>WQGUODSN\
  C<11>000qqq<28>000wRF<8>lG8jF8iE7gD7fC6dA5<13>000g28<28>000e6\
  Ed4Eb2E`0D<11>A04
  }

frm:FB_Popcorn {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
    ; real(p1) = h in popcorn formula
    ; imag(p1) = bailout value
    ; real(p2) = radius of center of ring (0.01 to 10)
    ; imag(p2) = one half thickness of ring (0.01 to p1)
    ; real(p3) = iterations to skip
    ; imag(p3)   not used
    ;
    x = real(pixel)
    y = imag(pixel)
    h = real(p1)
    z = iter = bailout = 0
    d0 = real(p2) + imag(p2)
    d1 = 0.382683432365 * real(p2)
    d2 = 0.923879532511 * real(p2)
    dsqd = d0 * d0 + real(p2) * real(p2) - (d0 + d0) * d2
    :
    prev_x = x
    x = x - h * sin(y + tan(3 * y))
    y = y - h * sin(prev_x + tan(3 * prev_x))
    w = x + flip(y)
    ;
    IF ((abs(cabs(w) - real(p2)) < imag(p2)) && iter > real(p3))
    bailout = 1
    wr = real(w), wi = imag(w)
    awr = abs(wr), awi = abs(wi)
    IF (awr >= awi)
        dist = (awr - d2) * (awr - d2) + (awi - d1) * (awi - d1)
        adjust = 1
    ELSE
        dist = (awr - d1) * (awr - d1) + (awi - d2) * (awi - d2)
        adjust = 0
    ENDIF
    IF     (wr >= 0 && wi >= 0)
        range_num = 1 - adjust
    ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi >= 0)
        range_num = 2 + adjust
    ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi < 0)
        range_num = 5 - adjust
    ELSE
        range_num = 6 + adjust
    ENDIF
    ratio = sqrt(dist / dsqd)
    z = 29 * ratio + range_num * 30 + 1
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0 && |w| < imag(p1)
}


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 3 more little pars
Date: 03 Jun 1998 02:44:07 EDT




Three more slices of fractal pie here! <g>   Enjoy~

Jim



Screamer           { ; 0:01:42.60 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 10/5/97 image(c) JamesWeaver
                     ; This reminds me of a Clive Barker movie!
  reset=1920 type=formula formulafile=jack5.frm formulaname=ormandel12
  function=cosh/tan passes=t
  center-mag=-6.375e-006/-9.34118/0.2077651/1/180 params=5/0
  maxiter=512 inside=epsiloncross outside=imag potential=255/222/0
  colors=000OWl<5>0Kc0Ka<8>02F00D00A<2>003000022<14>0cc<15>zzz<15>0c0<14>0\
  30000200<13>`00c00d44<13>zzzyxvwvr<4>pe_oaWmYSlUOjQKiMGgICfE8dC4cB0<9>F1\
  0D00A00800<2>000003005<5>D0KF0MJ0P<3>Q0ZS0`U2cW4d<2>aGhcKieMkgOmiWokYpmb\
  qoesqjusovupwxvyzzzyvxwpuvosujqseoqbmpYkoWimOgkMeiKc<2>f8Yd4Wc2U`0S<4>R0\
  IP0GN0GL0C<4>B02900700500005<13>00c<15>zzzvxyrvwnrvjntfls<3>SYm
  }


Spike              { ; 0:02:35.44 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 3/14/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1820 type=lambda(fn||fn) function=log/sqr passes=t
  center-mag=+0.00000000000000089/+0.00000000000000178/0.2439024/1/90
  params=0.5/0/0.875 float=y maxiter=500 bailoutest=and inside=bof60
  outside=atan decomp=64 viewwindows=1/0.75/yes/0/0
  colors=000zzvzzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15\
  >S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<10>3n\
  n3rr5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1jf1f<10>000<15>0f0\
  <15>zz0<13>zzr
  }


Native_American    { ; 0:00:18.02 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 3/3/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=halley passes=t
  center-mag=-2.66454e-015/0.869565/0.3311258 params=6/1/0.025/0
  float=y maxiter=1000 inside=epsiloncross outside=real invert=1/0/0.1
  periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/0.75/yes/0/0
  colors=000nnn<12>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5\
  N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<10>3nn3r\
  r5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1jf1f<10>000<15>0f0<15\
  >zz0<15>zzzvvvrrr
  }

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From: jon camp <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 3 pars and two frms
Date: 03 Jun 1998 03:44:45 -0700 (PDT)

Hi all! Here's a few pars along with two new formulas that I made. I
am not really sure why comeout the way they do. I started with a
simple taylor expansion of cos(x) and modified the mandelbrot set with
it with hopes of maybe getting it to take on a different shape. Then i
decided to complicate things by finding the taylor expansion about c
and slowly increasing a coefficient. Needless to say this is all
almost completely random :) but they looked kinda neat.....

oh, an I thought they were cool enough to put on my webpage so if you
are too lazy to cut and paste and calculate them (like I often am),
take a look at the last three fractals on my page.

jon camp
chaotic n-space network
http://wwwstage.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/fractals_gate.html
valparaiso univerisity <><

jcamp08            { ; jon camp, 1998
                     ; chaotic n-space network
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=email.frm formulaname=jcamp08
  center-mag=-4.80416083009286200/-0.14362590171155010/813.8864/1/22.499
  params=256/0 float=y maxiter=4096 inside=bof60
  colors=000<9>0BB0DD2EE000<80>GGGHHHHHHIIIIII<44>ggggggfff<109>GGG
  }

jcamp09            { ; jon camp, 1998
                     ; chaotic n-space network
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=jcamp.frm formulaname=jcamp09
  center-mag=-5.06007/0.129155/0.8310295 params=256/3/0.01/0 float=y
  maxiter=512 inside=period

colors=000009<15>5Pw<5>98eA5bB5_<2>E7TG8RH9PJAMKBK<2>QIOSKPUNRWPTYSW_VY<\

7>nrt<15>OI4<6>eYIg_KiaMkcOneQ<4>zp`<4>jdVgaUcZS`WRYUQ<4>HGL000000000076\

<12>CpjDtmCpj<12>087000000000F00<13>zH0<13>F00L1JM2JN3JO4IR9HUDF000<3>00\

0kc6<2>tq2wu0zz0ww0uu0000<10>000OGGMDHKAIMAJOAL<12>ziE<13>K8B412<3>CC7EF\
  9IIC<10>svbsvbsvbsvb<6>fcR000<4>000
  }

jcamp10            { ; jon camp, 1998
                     ; chaotic n-space network
  reset=1960 type=manlam(fn||fn) function=ceil/sinh
  center-mag=+0.44046796234676780/+0.02295987397287780/0.6274127/1/-90
  params=-2/2/4096 float=y maxiter=1024 bailout=256 bailoutest=real
  inside=bof60 outside=atan invert=1/0/0

colors=000903<28>`0Da0Db2D<14>zVF<14>b2Da0D`0D<37>000E5M<8>93FOI5<15>zpa\

<14>OI5000<30>000<3>KJRLKS<11>nru<15>OI5<6>eYJg_LiaNkcPneR<4>zpa<4>jdWga\
  VcZT`WSYUR<4>HGM93F<4>C4J000<8>803
  }

frm:jcamp08 {
    c = pixel
    z = 0
    :
    z = 1 - .5*z^2 + (1/24)*z^4 - (1/720)*z^6 + (1/40320)*z^8 -
(1/3628800)*z^10 + c
    |z| <= real(p1)
}

frm:jcamp09 {
    c = pixel
    z = 0
    t = 1
    :
    z = t^(imag(p1))*(1 - .5*(z-c)^2 + (1/24)*(z-c)^4 - (1/720)*(z-c)^6 +
(1/40320)*(z-c)^8 - (1/3628800)*(z-c)^10)
    t = t + real(p2)
    |z| <= real(p1)
}




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From: Ray Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) sstools.ini problem
Date: 03 Jun 1998 07:49:07 -0700


    Good morning,

    I have a slight problem.  Not severe but, it should not be.
    It pertains to my sstools.ini file - again!
    When I open Fractint, I get a black screen with the following message on it:

"Fractint found the following problems when parsing commands:
Can't find parmfile=c:\fractint\parms\*.par please check =?(x)   "
The last parenthesis and x are mine because I don't know what to call the
symbol that is there.  It looks like a number 6 with a small upthrust arrow
tip on the stem.
    I am pasting a copy of my sstools.ini file onto this message.
    Can somebody figure out what is wrong?

[fractint]
textsafe=yes
fastrestore=yes
recordcolors=yes
video=sf5
float=yes
parmfile=c:\fractint\parms\*.par
formulafile=c:\fractint\formula
map=c:\fractint\maps

The above parm file line is one that was copied from a template of Jack
Valero - except, of course, I left off the name of his file.
    All the rest of the sstools.ini file seems to work just fine.

        Thanks                Ray


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From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) sstools.ini problem
Date: 03 Jun 1998 09:07:53 -0700

Hi, Ray!

> Can somebody figure out what is wrong?
>
>[fractint]
>textsafe=yes
>fastrestore=yes
>recordcolors=yes
>video=sf5
>float=yes
>parmfile=c:\fractint\parms\*.par
>formulafile=c:\fractint\formula
>map=c:\fractint\maps


Do you have a subdirectory (in your Fractint directory) that is named
parms?  If not, you need to create one.

Linda



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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) raytracing and fractint
Date: 03 Jun 1998 17:21:10 EDT

Hi Andrej! I'm sorry it has been so long since your post, and I hope you have
found it already, but in case you have not here is a site that I am just now
looking at and it lists raw2pov amongst its files:) I had kept aside your post
on the fractint list in case I ever found it as I am also using pov and
fractint but have not been very happy with the quality of my (two) attempts at
importing fractals into povray.

http://shell3.ba.best.com/~beale/gforge/

The site was recommended to me to find Gforge which has been recommended to me
as a heightfield utility. Hope this info helps!  Good luck with Pov-it's fun,
but challenging:)
Renrad1
[e-mail]

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) raytracing and fractint
Date: 03 Jun 1998 17:34:37 EDT

Hi again... I just thought I'd better tell you that on further perusal of the
site, the raw2pov there is source code to be compiled on a unix platform.  I
know I can't use it:(     Sorry if you can't use it.
Renrad1

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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) raytracing and fractint
Date: 03 Jun 1998 17:58:08 -0400 (EDT)

On Wed, 3 Jun 1998 [e-mail] wrote:
> Hi again... I just thought I'd better tell you that on further perusal of the
> site, the raw2pov there is source code to be compiled on a unix platform.  I
> know I can't use it:(     Sorry if you can't use it.

You'd be surprised by the number of things for Unix that compile fine
on MS-DOS and (especially) Win32 systems.

Kragen


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From: cindy mitchell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: raw2pov
Date: 03 Jun 1998 15:53:01 -0700

Raw2pov can be found at - http://www.mabb.com/$webfile.files.C-UTILIT.R.25
   Cindy - The Fractal Lady
  http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/1195/


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From: Barry Bluestein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint on a 400 MHz computer
Date: 03 Jun 1998 18:59:36 -0400



Bob Margolis wrote:

> Hi Fractalizens:
>
> Just got word this afternoon that my 400 MHz Compaq Presario 4880
> Pentium II was shipped to me today and I can expect it on my doorstep
> tomorrow morning.
>
> I discussed the Fractint program with the caller and told him about the
> program's not recognizing some video cards. He told me that if I have
> any problems in getting it to work on my new machine--it works quite
> well on my current 486/66--he will help me to get it working properly.
> He's a technician who works solely on the Compaq Presario line and
> offered his help because of the long delays getting my new computer
> because of some unforseen glitches.
>
> So, the next time you guys may hear from me is when I'm able to use
> Fractint on a 400 MHz machine. Keep your Mandelbrots crossed for me,
> would you please? Thanks.
>
> Bob

One of the new XEON - 440BX motherboards, no doubt? [sigh]

--
Barry Bluestein - President
The Lapis Group - Information Technology Consultants
11629 Deborah DR, Suite 1000, Potomac, MD 20854
301-299-0083



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From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal Art Gallery
Date: 03 Jun 1998 23:11:30 -0500

Hi Fractalizens:

Check out:

Fractal Art Gallery

http://www.nw.com.au/~jbauer/fractals.htm

View works by Linda Allison, Melissa Binde, Paul Carlson, Earl Hinrichs,
Valery Kritchallo, Jean-Pierre Louvet, Doug Owen, & Clint Sprott.

Bob

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From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) absence
Date: 03 Jun 1998 22:43:36 -0700

Where is Wizzle?  Where is Jay Hill?  Is it
summer in southern CA?


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From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) May '98 parameters collection
Date: 04 Jun 1998 08:13:32 -0700

Les...

Thank you so much for putting together May's frm's and par's.  750 pars did you
say?? Wow!!

I picked up the files at your site yesterday and had a delightful time browsing
through the pars.  There were many that I had missed in my own attempt at trying
to keep them straight. I thought folks had really wonderful images to share.

Thanks again

Angela


>
> Hi everyone,
>
> May's bumper par collection, which contains in excess of 750 images, is now
> available from the usual spot:
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/
<<snipped>>
> So, take your pick... and enjoy the fractals!
>
> - Les

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From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PARS
Date: 04 Jun 1998 16:18:23 -0700

I wanted to do some more exploring around
my par another_shore and Les St. Clair's cool
Christmas_giftwrap, and downloaded Damien
Jones' formula file from his web site.  There are
many more fomulas and lots of info there.

0june              { ; 6-4-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Damien Jones
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dmj-pub.frm
  formulaname=dmj-Mand-Cir-Ang-I
  center-mag=-1.62885805014740000/+0.00284957555024263/57.28168
  params=1/10/10/1/10/1 float=y outside=summ
periodicity=0
  colors=_TEYRD<9>vlYxn_yo`zpaw\
n_ukY<16>bVH000<22>000000223<5>HHNKKQNNTQQX\
  TT_<6>ilploslpr<14>OI5<11>pgTr\
iVulYxn_zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT`WSYUR<3>KJNHGMGFL<\
  10>724602702<20>Q08R09S09T0AU\
0A<6>`0Da0Db2D<14>zVF<10>hAEaI9<6>xTF<8>H3A\
  C09908<6>KBDMDEMFF<2>MMI\
000<16>C81D92FB3<2>LG4OI5QK7TM9VOB
  }

1june              { ; 6-4-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Damien Jones
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dmj-pub.frm
  formulaname=dmj-Mand-Cir-Ang-I
  center-mag=-1.64122295266105200/+0.00004\
973332665285/1671.498
  params=1/10/10/1/10/1 float=y outside=summ
periodicity=0
  colors=000HD3JE4LG4<6>bVHdX\
Jg_M<5>vlYxn_yo`zpawn_ukY<16>bVH000<22>000000\
  223<5>HHNKKQNNTQQXTT_<6>ilpl\
oslpr<14>OI5<11>pgTriVulYxn_zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT`\
  WSYUR<3>KJNHGMGFL<10>7246027\
02<20>Q08R09S09T0AU0A<6>`0Da0Db2D<14>zVF<10>\
  hAEaI9<6>xTF<8>H3AC099\
08<6>KBDMDEMFF<2>MMI000<16>C81D92FB3
  }




2june              { ; mandy-coaster
                     ; 6-4-98 kathy roth
                     ;  frm by Damien Jones
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dmj-pub.frm
  formulaname=dmj-Mand-Cir-Dec passes=b
  center-mag=-0.15638/1.05537/29.17732/1.2905
params=1/0/0/0/0/0
  float=y fillcolor=185 outside=summ decomp=256
periodicity=0
  colors=000PT4<7>px9<5>KMGFG\
IBBM<14>WWz<7>J9J<15>zWz<7>J09<15>z0W<7>J90<1\
  5>zW0<7>JJ0<15>zz0<7>99J<15>W\
Wz<7>0J9<15>0zW<7>0JJ<14>0xx0zz2tt<6>JE9<15\
  >yjU<7>BJF<15>_zn<6>LO3
  }

3june              { ; swirls
                     ; 6-4-98 kathy roth
                     ;  frm by Damien Jones
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dmj-pub.frm
  formulaname=dmj-Mand-Cir-Ang
  center-mag=-0.05153700858217163/+0.8451\
1104259904560/83.96312
  params=1/0/0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=256
inside=maxiter outside=summ
  decomp=256
  colors=UUC<2>99J<15>WWz<7>0J\
9<15>0zW<7>0JJ<14>0xx0zz2tt<6>JE9<15>yjU<7>B\
  JF<15>_zn<6>LO3<8>px9<5>KMG0\
0800022466DEER<12>WWz<7>J9J<15>zWz<7>J09<15>\
  z0W<7>J90<15>zW0<7>JJ0<15>zz0<3>__9 cyclerange=0/255
  }

4june              { ; 6-4-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Damien Jones
                     ; palette by Linda Allison
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dmj-pub.frm
  formulaname=dmj-Mand-Cir-Dst
center-mag=-0.0650814/0.871452/3.205128
  params=1/0/1/0/0/0 float=y fillcolor=185
outside=summ periodicity=0
  colors=lotCIi<23>T_wT_wSZv<28>AFe9\
Ed8Dc7Cb7B`<11>12H01F01F<13>0140030010\
  01<13>los<13>SNCQL9QL9QL8QK7<26>vlY\
xn_xn_xn_<29>RL7QK6QK7QL9<2>UQHVSKXUO\
  <9>los<9>788<3>222000001<10>21D22E2\
2F23G23I<7>37R37S48U58W<4>7Cd8De8De<4\
  >CHh
  }

5june              { ; 6-4-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Damien Jones
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dmj-pub.frm
  formulaname=dmj-Mand-Cir-Ang passes=t
  center-mag=0.136677/0.63995/37.87879/1.25
params=1/10/10/1/10/1
  float=y maxiter=256 inside=maxiter outside=imag
  colors=ZSE9PMcWI<8>xn_<13>TN9RL7P\
J7PK8<11>ijjjmnloqnrukoq<14>000200<2>01\
  1011021031<2>053063063073083<3>0B\
50B50C61D7<2>4GC4HD5IE6JF7KH<5>AQNBRPAQ\
  O<5>7LH6KG5JE4ID4HB<26>1441331\
33122122111111000<28>07X07Y08_09a<2>2Be3Cg\
  5Dh<8>GMuHNwIOxKPzKPyJOx<8>FFj\
EEiDDgCCfBBe<10>55G44D44D33A33A55B<8>SUYUX\
  `X_c_bfbei<2>los<13>SNCQL9PK8QK6<2>XQC
cyclerange=0/255
  }

6june              { ; 6-4-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Damien Jones
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dmj-pub.frm
  formulaname=dmj-Mand-Cir-Ang-I
  center-mag=-1.64122295266105200/+0.000\
04973332665285/1671.498
  params=1/10/10/1/10/1 float=y outside=summ
periodicity=0
  colors=000<4>000000223<5>HHNKK\
QNNTQQXTT_<6>ilploslpr<14>OI5<11>pgTriVulY\
  xn_zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT`WSYUR<3>KJNH\
GMGFL<10>724602702<20>Q08R09S09T0AU0A<6>`\
  0Da0Db2D<14>zVF<10>hAEaI9<6>xT\
F<8>H3AC09908<6>KBDMDEMFF<2>MMI000<16>C81D\
  92FB3<2>LG4OI5QK7<12>vlY\
xn_yo`zpawn_ukY<16>bVH000<17>000
  }

7june              { ; 6-4-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Damien Jones
                     ; palette by Linda Allison
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dmj-pub.frm
  formulaname=dmj-Mand-Cir-Dec
  center-mag=-0.160723/1.0548/29.17732/1.2905
params=10/0/0/0/0/0
  float=y fillcolor=185 outside=summ periodicity=0
  colors=wxfRTQ<5>8F8180<9>dfVhjYln`pr\
ctvfyzj<15>05A<15>hwz<15>000<15>mmz<\
  15>M06<15>zee<15>A00<15>zxg<13>R88\
O45L00<15>z_K<12>kB4j93i72g50h83iB6<13\
  >zvn<15>A07<15>ztxojm<6>UVT
  }

8june              { ; 6-4-98 kathy roth
                     ; new colors
                     ; droz map
    float=y fillcolor=185 outside=summ periodicity=0
  colors=000<19>0YY0ZZ0YY<43>0AA\
099099089<30>00c<10>000<9>z00<21>zz0000000\
  000zzxzzz000<28>00w00z0\
0z<63>y01z00z10z10<6>z50000
  }

9june               { ; pull-top-can
                     ; 6-4-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Damien Jones
                     ; Linda Allison map
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dmj-pub.frm
  formulaname=dmj-Mand-Cir-Dec
  center-mag=-0.160723/1.0548/29.17732/1.2905 params=10/8/0/0/0/10
  float=y fillcolor=185 outside=summ periodicity=0
  colors=wxfPTJ<3>dfVhjYln`prc\
tvfyzj<15>05A<15>hwz<15>000<15>mmz<15>M06<15\
  >zee<15>A00<15>zxg<13>R8\
8O45L00<15>z_K<12>kB4j93i72g50h83iB6<13>zvn<15>A\
  07<15>ztxojm<13>8F8180<4>LQG
  }

ghosts             { ; 6-4-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Damien Jones
                     ; droz map
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=dmj-pub.frm
  formulaname=dmj-Mand-Cir-Dec-I
  center-mag=-1.75469/0.0200334/4.901961/1.25 params=1/10/0/0/0/5.5
  float=y fillcolor=185 outside=summ periodicity=0
  colors=000855422000<2>A8AEBEIE\
IMHMPKP<2>_S_bUbeXehZhj`j<3>sgsuhuvivxjxyk\
  y<4>zlzzlzylyxkxwjw<2>rfrpepncnl\
ali_ifYfdWd<5>KGKHDHDAD979545111212<5>LJ\
  POMSRPWURZXUa<2>c`jeblgcoieqkgs<3>pk\
xqlyqlzqlzrmzqlzqlz<3>nivmhtkgs<2>eb\
  lc`jaYg<2>URZRPWOMSLJP<3>87A54610010\
0<6>LA0OC0RD0TE0WG0YH0<3>eL0fL0hM0iN\
  0jN0kO0<5>lO0lO0kO0<3>gM0eL0dK0bJ0`I\
0<4>PC0FAQKA0<4>520211000<7>OCCQDDTE\
  EVFFYHH<2>cKKdKKfLLgMMiNN<2>kOOlOOl\
OOlOO<2>lOOkOOkOOjNNhMMgMM<5>XGGVFFSE\
  E<7>633311322<4>MDDQFGUHIXJK_LMbNO<2>k\
STmTUpVWrWXsXYuYZwZ_<2>y`az`az`az`\
  az`a<2>x_`wZ_uYZ<2>pVWnUVkST<3>`LMY\
KKUII<2>JBC000kkk
  }

frm:dmj-Mand-Cir-Ang { ; outside = decomp: angle of
        ;closest z[n] to ring at p1
 ; This is the angle relative to p1.

 IF (imag(p2) == 0)  ; Invalid value for aspect ratio.
   p2 = (0,1) + real(p2)  ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 IF (real(p3) == 0)  ; Invalid value for color scale.
   p3 = 75 + flip(imag(p3)) ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 IF (imag(p3) == 0)  ; Invalid value for ring radius.
   p3 = (0,1) + real(p3)  ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 closest = 1e+38   ; Closest approach so far.
 point = 0   ; Point of that closest approach.
 done = 2   ; Iteration counter.
 r = (0,1) ^ (real(p2)/90) ; Compute rotation vector.

 z = 0, c = pixel:  ; Mandelbrot initialization.
 z = sqr(z) + c   ; Mandelbrot calculation.

 done = done + 1   ; Done one more iteration.
 z2 = (z-p1) * r   ; Offset to p1 and rotate.
 z2 = real(z2) + flip(imag(z2) * imag(p2)) ; Distort aspect.
 d = abs(cabs(z2) - imag(p3)) ; Compute ring distance.
 IF (d < closest)  ; Closer than previous value.
   point = z   ; Save that point.
   closest = d   ; Save the closest approach.
 ENDIF
 IF (|z| > 128)   ; Point exceeds bailout.
   z = point - p1  ; Return closest point.
   done = -1   ; Set flag to force an exit.
 ENDIF

 done >= 0   ; Continue if the flag is clear.
}


frm:dmj-Mand-Cir-Dst { ; outside = real: closest z[n] to ring at p1

 IF (imag(p2) == 0)  ; Invalid value for aspect ratio.
   p2 = (0,1) + real(p2)  ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 IF (real(p3) == 0)  ; Invalid value for color scale.
   p3 = 75 + flip(imag(p3)) ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 IF (imag(p3) == 0)  ; Invalid value for ring radius.
   p3 = (0,1) + real(p3)  ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 closest = 1e+38   ; Closest approach so far.
 point = 0   ; Point of that closest approach.
 done = 2   ; Iteration counter.
 r = (0,1) ^ (real(p2)/90) ; Compute rotation vector.

 z = 0, c = pixel:  ; Mandelbrot initialization.
 z = sqr(z) + c   ; Mandelbrot calculation.

 done = done + 1   ; Done one more iteration.
 z2 = (z-p1) * r   ; Offset to p1 and rotate.
 z2 = real(z2) + flip(imag(z2) * imag(p2)) ; Distort aspect.
 d = abs(cabs(z2) - imag(p3)) ; Compute ring distance.
 IF (d < closest)  ; Closer than previous value.
   point = z   ; Save that point.
   closest = d   ; Save the closest approach.
 ENDIF
 IF (|z| > 128)   ; Point exceeds bailout.
   z = closest * real(p3) ; Apply color scale.
   z = z - 255*trunc(z/real(255)) ; Wrap at 255.
   z = z - done   ; Return value.
   done = -1   ; Set flag to force an exit.
 ENDIF

 done >= 0   ; Continue if the flag is clear.
}


frm:dmj-Mand-Cir-Ang-I { ; outside = decomp: angle of
         ;closest z[n] to ring at p1
 ; This is the angle relative to p1.

 IF (imag(p2) == 0)  ; Invalid value for aspect ratio.
   p2 = (0,1) + real(p2)  ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 IF (real(p3) == 0)  ; Invalid value for color scale.
   p3 = 75 + flip(imag(p3)) ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 IF (imag(p3) == 0)  ; Invalid value for ring radius.
   p3 = (0,1) + real(p3)  ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 closest = 1e+38   ; Closest approach so far.
 point = 0   ; Point of that closest approach.
 done = 2   ; Iteration counter.
 r = (0,1) ^ (real(p2)/90) ; Compute rotation vector.

 z = 0, c = pixel:  ; Mandelbrot initialization.
 z = sqr(z) + c   ; Mandelbrot calculation.

 done = done + 1   ; Done one more iteration.
 z2 = (z-p1) * r   ; Offset to p1 and rotate.
 z2 = real(z2) + flip(imag(z2) * imag(p2)) ; Distort aspect.
 d = abs(cabs(z2) - imag(p3)) ; Compute ring distance.
 IF (d < closest)  ; Closer than previous value.
   point = z   ; Save that point.
   closest = d   ; Save the closest approach.
 ENDIF
 IF (|z| > 128 || done >= maxit) ; Point exceeds bailout / inside.
   z = point - p1  ; Return closest point.
   done = -1   ; Set flag to force an exit.
 ENDIF

 done >= 0   ; Continue if the flag is clear.
}

frm:dmj-Mand-Cir-Dec { ; outside = decomp: angle of
        ;closest z[n] to ring at p1
 ; This is the angle relative to the origin.

 IF (imag(p2) == 0)  ; Invalid value for aspect ratio.
   p2 = (0,1) + real(p2)  ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 IF (real(p3) == 0)  ; Invalid value for color scale.
   p3 = 75 + flip(imag(p3)) ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 IF (imag(p3) == 0)  ; Invalid value for ring radius.
   p3 = (0,1) + real(p3)  ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 closest = 1e+38   ; Closest approach so far.
 point = 0   ; Point of that closest approach.
 done = 2   ; Iteration counter.
 r = (0,1) ^ (real(p2)/90) ; Compute rotation vector.

 z = 0, c = pixel:  ; Mandelbrot initialization.
 z = sqr(z) + c   ; Mandelbrot calculation.

 done = done + 1   ; Done one more iteration.
 z2 = (z-p1) * r   ; Offset to p1 and rotate.
 z2 = real(z2) + flip(imag(z2) * imag(p2)) ; Distort aspect.
 d = abs(cabs(z2) - imag(p3)) ; Compute ring distance.
 IF (d < closest)  ; Closer than previous value.
   point = z   ; Save that point.
   closest = d   ; Save the closest approach.
 ENDIF
 IF (|z| > 128)   ; Point exceeds bailout.
   z = point   ; Return closest point.
   done = -1   ; Set flag to force an exit.
 ENDIF

 done >= 0   ; Continue if the flag is clear.
}

frm:dmj-Mand-Cir-Dec-I { ; outside = decomp: angle of
         ;closest z[n] to ring at p1
 ; This is the angle relative to the origin.

 IF (imag(p2) == 0)  ; Invalid value for aspect ratio.
   p2 = (0,1) + real(p2)  ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 IF (real(p3) == 0)  ; Invalid value for color scale.
   p3 = 75 + flip(imag(p3)) ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 IF (imag(p3) == 0)  ; Invalid value for ring radius.
   p3 = (0,1) + real(p3)  ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 closest = 1e+38   ; Closest approach so far.
 point = 0   ; Point of that closest approach.
 done = 2   ; Iteration counter.
 r = (0,1) ^ (real(p2)/90) ; Compute rotation vector.

 z = 0, c = pixel:  ; Mandelbrot initialization.
 z = sqr(z) + c   ; Mandelbrot calculation.

 done = done + 1   ; Done one more iteration.
 z2 = (z-p1) * r   ; Offset to p1 and rotate.
 z2 = real(z2) + flip(imag(z2) * imag(p2)) ; Distort aspect.
 d = abs(cabs(z2) - imag(p3)) ; Compute ring distance.
 IF (d < closest)  ; Closer than previous value.
   point = z   ; Save that point.
   closest = d   ; Save the closest approach.
 ENDIF
 IF (|z| > 128 || done >= maxit) ; Point exceeds bailout / inside.
   z = point   ; Return closest point.
   done = -1   ; Set flag to force an exit.
 ENDIF

 done >= 0   ; Continue if the flag is clear.
}









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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PAR   oops, sorry list
Date: 04 Jun 1998 23:17:29 EDT

Hi. Yesterday I inadvertantly sent an e-mail to the list that I meant to send
to the individual who had asked the whereabouts of a file a few weeks ago. I'm
sorry for the off-topic post but would like to say Thanks! to Kragen and to
Cindy the Fractal Lady for the information they put up afterwards. Many
thanks!:)

Here is a par from fiddling around in spiderM. Honestly, I don't know how you
guys come up with names for the oddities that turn up in fractint <vbg>.
Cheers!

renmlf9801              { ;5/3/98 renrad1 frm=spiderM t=<2mins on p200
                                ; screen ratio changed-don't forget to reset
view  (v->f4)
                                ;(c) peter m. spencer 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pjc9803.frm formulaname=spiderM
  function=cotan/sin passes=1
  center-mag=-5.50571/-0.121652/0.08252641/1.3333/-135
  params=-6.18/0.382/0.7/-0.0081 float=y maxiter=25000 inside=bof61
  outside=atan logmap=yes viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=000MIE<5>D94000EA5FB5000<37>000111333<29>zzz<30>272050161\
  <29>xxizzkzzk<29>kkk00P<46>xxyzzzyyy<28>NKG
  }

frm:spiderM { ; by Jean-Pierre Louvet
z=pixel,f=pixel,g=pixel:
f=f/p1+z,
z=fn1(z^(p2+g))+fn2(f),
|z| <= 4
 }

Please let me know if this doesn't work correctly. Thanks!

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From: Ray Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Non-sequence numbering and alphabetizing
Date: 04 Jun 1998 20:33:07 -0700


    I have suddenly and unexpectedly developed a new problem - or, rather, my
computer has.
    My par files which have always been alphabetized and the numbering of my
qif files are suddenly not is proper sequence.
    Can anyone explain what happened and what I can do about it?
    Much obliged.

                    Ray


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From: Ray Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Never mine!
Date: 04 Jun 1998 21:02:52 -0700


    Unaccountably all came back to order in both the number sequencing and the
alphabetizing.
    Sorry to have troubled anyone.

                Ray


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 3 little pars
Date: 05 Jun 1998 05:10:47 EDT



Here are 3 more slices of fractal pie!......Enjoy~

Jim

Epsilonia          { ; 0:00:55.31 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/04/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=Jm_07
  function=sqr/flip/asinh passes=1
  center-mag=-1.58737/4.66294e-015/1.67792/1/90 params=5/0 float=y
  inside=epsiloncross outside=real
  colors=000750<9>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0\
  <14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<10>3nn3rr5nr7jr9\
  frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1jf1f<10>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>\
  zzz<15>000220440
  }


Lion_King_01       { ; 0:03:04.39 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/04/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-5-09 function=sin/atanh passes=1
  center-mag=0.227031/0.227031/0.078125/1/45 params=0.4875/0/0.975/0
  float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60 outside=real decomp=255
  colors=000eNc<25>01F<20>BS8f6E<17>416<35>Qba<15>1MV<44>yU5<44>j6yj6zk7y<\
  30>zYpzYpxXo<10>fNd
  }


Harvest            { ; 0:00:36.09 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 5/31/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=jmcr1.frm formulaname=Zeppo
  function=atanh/ident passes=b
  center-mag=1.07857/1.07857/1.909487/1/44.999 params=0/0/1/-0.1
  float=y bailout=4 decomp=255
  colors=000wv0xx0zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8\
  <2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<13>4zz<15>zz0<15>z1z<15>000<15>0f0<\
  15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<11>us0
  }

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From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PAR: Julias with z^7
Date: 05 Jun 1998 11:45:14 -0500

Julia_27           { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998
  reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1
  center-mag=-2.88658e-014/1.46549e-014/0.1763471/1.3333
  params=-0.3281838000856018/0.6182657346027912/7/0 float=y
  maxiter=750 bailoutest=and inside=bof60 invert=0.5/0/0
  distest=1/-5/768/768 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0
  viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=zzg<11>fWO08F<14>08FhKC<6>z_K<7>qLAK50<14>K50qZS<6>zvn<7>dYXI8F<1\
  4>I8FdXa<5>unr<8>UVT8F8<14>8F8XgX<5>lyl<7>PYU05A<14>05AMX`<6>cru<7>MUV44\
  4<14>444TT`<6>mmz<7>YTbI8F<14>I8FkRU<6>zee<7>`LLA00<14>A00bZO<2>ljX
  cyclerange=1/1
  }

Julia_28           { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998
  reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1
  center-mag=2.08722e-014/-1.37668e-014/0.1718243/1.5
  params=-0.1391630296401316/0.884654651431153/7/0 float=y maxiter=750
  bailoutest=and inside=bof60 invert=0.5/0/0 distest=1/-5/512/768
  symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1.5/yes/0/0
  colors=08F<15>08FqZS<6>zvn<7>dYXI8F<14>I8FdXa<5>unr<8>UVT8F8<14>8F8XgX<5\
  >lyl<7>PYU05A<14>05AMX`<6>cru<7>MUV444<14>444TT`<6>mmz<7>YTbI8F<14>I8FkR\
  U<6>zee<7>`LLA00<14>A00bZO<6>zzg<7>fWOM13<14>M13hKC<6>z_K<7>qLA
  cyclerange=1/1
  }

Julia_29           { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998
  reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1
  center-mag=2.66454e-015/-1.33227e-015/0.2879748
  params=-0.7627631395222065/0.6582220728357585/7/0 float=y
  maxiter=750 bailoutest=and inside=bof60 invert=0.5/0/0
  distest=1/-5/768/768 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0
  viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=tY4<8>WJ2850<6>850zzz<15>0C00D0<13>020wwx<14>E0SF0UH0X<12>407zzz<\
  15>0QZ0S`0Uc<12>068zzz<15>Z0Z`0`c0c<12>808zzz<15>Kg0Lj0Nn0<12>470zzz<15>\
  e04h05<13>301zzz<15>90eA0h<13>206zzz<13>t_8 cyclerange=1/1
  }

Julia_30           { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998
  reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1
  center-mag=-1.77636e-015/1.9984e-015/0.3208283
  params=-0.6550514218174081/-0.00716898981002515/7/0 float=y
  maxiter=750 bailoutest=and inside=bof60 outside=real invert=0.5/0/0
  distest=1/-5/512/768 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0
  viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=08Fxyf<26>3AG08F08F<14>08FhKC<6>z_K<7>qLAK50<14>K50qZS<6>zvn<7>dY\
  XI8F<14>I8FdXa<5>unr<8>UVT8F8<14>8F8XgX<5>lyl<7>PYU05A<14>05AMX`<6>cru<7\
  >MUV444<14>444TT`<6>mmz<7>YTbI8F<14>I8FkRU<6>zee<7>`LLA00A00A00
  cyclerange=1/1
  }

Julia_31           { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998
  reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1
  center-mag=8.65974e-015/-9.32587e-015/0.4585529
  params=-0.4226904164643639/-0.6197620025266025/7/0 float=y
  maxiter=750 bailoutest=or inside=bof61 invert=0.5/0/0
  distest=1/71/512/768 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0
  viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=00000h<12>000000<4>0H00000O00S00V0d000a0<5>0v00v0<16>000000<16>v0\
  vv0v<16>000000<16>vv0vv0<16>000000<16>0vv0vv<16>000000<16>vvvvvv<16>000<\
  3>000<16>v00v00<16>000000<16>00v00v<2>00k cyclerange=1/1
  }

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From: "Paul J. Gellings" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) HP Deskjet
Date: 05 Jun 1998 20:05:38 +0200

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) HP Deskjet
Date: 05 Jun 1998 14:27:30 -0400

Paul Gellings,

Your best bet is to use a Windows graphics program to print your images.
FractInt's printing support isn't really designed to handle a large variety
of printers.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs)
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PAR: a rare par
Date: 05 Jun 1998 17:26:18 -0700

comment { words and pars by Mark "Bud" Christenson 6/5/98

My first (presentable) gravijul4, my first fractal in quite a while,
and probably my last for some time to come.  I whipped this
baby out four days ago, and just got now time to send it.
Seriously.  I'm busy busting ass (mine) on a new job that's
paying 30-50% of what I'm worth, but it beats unemployment
(barely!) .  Oh, and a Web database volunteer project for
SFSU/CPEO (anything to get my mitts of a UNIX server),
and continuing the search for a better job.

The image is also kind of busy, but I like it (but I don't like
*me* being this busy).  If you want to see how *really* busy
it is (about as busy as I am), try changing or rotating the palette!


Aloha, Bud
}

gj4-0u             { ; "Dark Embrace" rel of gj4-0t - (c) 6/1/98 Bud
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=gravjulz.frm
  formulaname=gravijul4 function=ident/sin/tanh/atanh passes=t
  center-mag=0/0/0.5446477 params=1/0/0.23798/0/1/4
  float=y maxiter=151 inside=111 decomp=256
  colors=0007B6CHAFKD<2>NPIQRKTUN<2>ccWgfZkjanne<2>zyn<8>gcWe`UdZT<3>XRLVP\

JUOITMHRKF<19>21100M000<13>900A00A01A12<18>8JP8KQ9LR<4>GT`HVbJXdLZf<5>Xk\

u_nx_lv<6>OUZMRVMQUMPSLNQJLNGHJBBC000000D4AK4F<3>_ASdCWfEZ<6>wTw<6>g
F_dC\

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  UKKVKKWLK<7>jTNkUNmWM<7>ziF<5>hUEeREcQD<2>XK8UI7QF6LC4D72000
  }

frm:gravijul4 { ;variation of a Mark Christenson frm by Philip DiGiorgi 3/19/98
 bailout = imag(p3), k = real(p3)
  z = abs(pixel):
  v = fn1(z)*k
  w = fn2(v*v)
  z = fn4(p1/fn3(w*w)) + p2
  |z| < bailout
}


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Subject: (fractint) 3 little pars
Date: 05 Jun 1998 21:01:41 EDT



Here are 3 more slices of fractal pie!.....Enjoy~

Jim


Splash             { ; 0:07:55.83 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/04/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=OK-19
  function=ident/cosh passes=t center-mag=0.0402527/0.925688/1.733976
  params=25/0 float=y inside=bof60 outside=real invert=1/0/0
  colors=000BD5<3>354033077<10>3nn3rr5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z\
  90x87<3>m3bj1jf1f<10>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<\
  14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6F\
  G6DF5
  }


Fandango           { ; 0:03:24.66 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/04/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=groucho
  function=log/conj passes=t
  center-mag=-0.68323/-1.08802e-014/1.342642/1/-90 params=0.495/0/0/0
  bailout=4 inside=bof60 potential=255/200/0 invert=1/-0.3/0
  colors=000zv4<14>z1z<15>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0a\
  U0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6H\
  I6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<13>4zz<15>zz0
  }


Oxygen_8           { ; 0:02:32.92 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/04/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=barnsleym1 passes=t
  center-mag=+0.27976227685063590/+0.06326727142541454/2249.557/1.1081/-95\
  .271/0.515 params=-0.975/0.606 float=y maxiter=50 bailout=500
  bailoutest=manh inside=bof60 invert=0.1/0.1961/0.0216 decomp=255
  colors=000Bgh<11>14RC6QO8OP9NQBM000000UFJVHI<7>zH0<8>SDF<4>L0KB8D1H5<19>\
  Q`5Sa6R`6<16>2I6IIAZJE<6>wgF<8>XKDUHDSGC<6>AB7000HIC<10>svcsvc<9>VVLSSJP\
  PHMMFKJD<6>200pdJ<5>zjF<13>RCCEEE<13>kki<18>005332<17>zpa<12>UPFMJIEDLAA\
  K<3>ALQAOSARUBUWBXY<6>DqlDtnCqmCnkBjj
  }

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Truemand and Web site update
Date: 05 Jun 1998 22:27:02 EDT

To whomever is interested:

A new version of Truemand is available which now includes a formula parser
with a syntax very close to that of Fractint. It is available at
http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001

Ron Barnett

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From: "Peter Marsden" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint on a 400 MHz computer
Date: 05 Jun 1998 21:31:01 -0500

Bob, I've been using my Compaq 4880 for about a month now & Fractint without
any trouble at all.
Peter Marsden (Fractint lurker/mathematician with no time & a nice computer
!!!)
-----Original Message-----


>Hi Fractalizens:
>
>Just got word this afternoon that my 400 MHz Compaq Presario 4880
>Pentium II was shipped to me today and I can expect it on my doorstep
>tomorrow morning.
>
>I discussed the Fractint program with the caller and told him about the
>program's not recognizing some video cards. He told me that if I have
>any problems in getting it to work on my new machine--it works quite
>well on my current 486/66--he will help me to get it working properly.
>He's a technician who works solely on the Compaq Presario line and
>offered his help because of the long delays getting my new computer
>because of some unforseen glitches.
>
>So, the next time you guys may hear from me is when I'm able to use
>Fractint on a 400 MHz machine. Keep your Mandelbrots crossed for me,
>would you please? Thanks.
>
>Bob
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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) Four-in-one Julia Formula
Date: 06 Jun 1998 00:36:49 -0500 (CDT)

This is the most complicated formula I've written but
it is also the most interesting (I think).  Due to the
length of the formula I haven't put comments in it.  I'll
be glad to post a commented version if anyone would like
one.

The pars should be run at the highest resolution possible
(they execute fairly fast) with passes=1.  If you use
passes=t you'll get a pure white screen.

It took me a while to figure out how to do this - I'll
be interested in what you think of it.

Paul Carlson

frm:Four_Julias {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
    ; p1       = Julia set coordinates
    ; real(p2) = size factor, upper left  quadrant
    ; imag(p2) = size factor, upper right quadrant
    ; real(p3) = size factor, lower left  quadrant
    ; imag(p3) = size factor, lower right quadrant
    ;
    c = p1
    z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0
    px = real(scrnpix), py = imag(scrnpix)
    hmx = 0.5 * real(scrnmax)
    hmy = 0.5 * imag(scrnmax)
    IF ((px < 2) || (px > (real(scrnmax) - 3)) || \
    (py < 2) || (py > (imag(scrnmax) - 3)) || \
       ((px > hmx - 2) && (px < hmx + 1))      || \
       ((py > hmy - 2) && (py < hmy + 1)))
       z = 252
       bailout = 1
    ENDIF
    IF (bailout == 0)
    IF (px < hmx)
        IF (py > hmy)
        w = 2 * (pixel + (1,0.75))
        size = real(p3)
        quad = 3
        ELSE
        prev_w = 2 * (pixel + (1.0,-0.75))
        size = real(p2)
        quad = 1
        ENDIF
    ELSE
        IF (py > hmy)
        w = 2 * (pixel + (-1,0.75))
        size = imag(p3)
        k = 0.5 + size
        j = 0.5 - size
        quad = 4
        ELSE
        w = 2 * (pixel + (-1.0,-0.75))
        size = imag(p2)
        quad = 2
        ENDIF
    ENDIF
    index_factor = 29 / size
    ENDIF
    :
    IF (bailout == 0)
    IF (quad == 1)
        w = prev_w * prev_w + c
        dist = |prev_w| / |w|
        prev_w = w
    ELSE
        w = w * w + c
        IF (quad == 2)
        dist = abs(|w|-.25)
        ELSEIF (quad == 3)
        IF (abs(real(w)) <= abs(imag(w)))
            dist = abs(real(w))
        ELSE
            dist = abs(imag(w))
        ENDIF
        ELSEIF (quad == 4)
        awr = abs(real(w)), awi = abs(imag(w))
        IF ((awr < k) && (awr > j) && \
            (awi < k) && (awi > j))
            awr5 = abs(awr - 0.5), awi5 = abs(awi - 0.5)
            IF (awr5 <= awi5)
            dist = awr5
            ELSE
            dist = awi5
            ENDIF
        ELSE
            dist = 1.0e30
        ENDIF
        ENDIF
    ENDIF
    IF (dist < size && iter > 0)
        bailout = 1
        z = index_factor * dist + range_num * 30 + 1
    ENDIF
    ENDIF
    range_num = range_num + 1
    IF (range_num == 8)
    range_num = 0
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0 && |w| < 4
}

4juls_1            { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
             ; t=  0:04:37.15, 1024x758, 60 MHz Pentium
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=4juls.frm
  formulaname=four_julias passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=0.35408308/0.095460802/0.07/0.01/0.04/0.05
  float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40\
  zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<9>000zzz000000000
  }

4juls_2            { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                     ; t=  0:03:10.54, 1024x758, 60 MHz Pentium
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=4juls.frm
  formulaname=four_julias passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=-0.3393105491995811/0.6264574211090803/0.04/0.03/0.03/0.08
  float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000zW0<28>c400zz<28>0CCz0f<28>O08zz0<28>aG0GGz<28>00Oz8\
  8<28>O000zR<28>0C4fOz<28>I0K000<9>000zzz000000000
  }



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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Four-in-one J
Date: 06 Jun 1998 09:31:33 -0400

Paul,

>>It took me a while to figure out how to do this - I'll be interested in=

what you think of it.<<

Very clever!  Unfortunately, when I tried to zoom in on one of the 4
julias, the results were not as expected!  I think that when I zoomed in =
on
the lower right of the 2nd 4-julias par, only the loer-right 1/4 of that
sub-image showed up in the lower-right corner of the screen.

Lee

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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Four-in-one J
Date: 06 Jun 1998 09:00:13 -0500 (CDT)

>Very clever!  Unfortunately, when I tried to zoom in on one of the 4
>julias, the results were not as expected!

Sorry, Lee - I should have mentioned that the images can't be zoomed
into.  There's no way I could provide for that.  But I'm glad you
found them interesting.  It sure was interesting writing the formula - I
now know a lot more about the ins and outs of Fractint formulas than
before I started it.

Paul Carlson




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From: "RJ Corradino" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal Chat??
Date: 06 Jun 1998 10:36:53 -0400

Is there a fractal chat scheduled for today?  I'll be on IRC anyway most of
the day...I'll stop in and out of the channel.

Later,

-RJ


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From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: Fractal Chat??
Date: 06 Jun 1998 11:04:09 -0500

RJ Corradino wrote:
>
> Is there a fractal chat scheduled for today?

Angela at [e-mail] usually arranges the chat sessions.

Angela, if you read this, what doth sayest you?

Bob

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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Four-in-one Julia Formula
Date: 06 Jun 1998 11:21:05 -0500 (CDT)

There are a few things I forgot to mention about this formula when
I posted it last night.  There are several things you CAN'T do with
the image, including: zooming in, rotating, moving it in any direction,
and in general, anything that changes the location of any part of the
image on the screen.  This is because I had to "hard code" in location
info for the four images in statements like:

    w = 2 * (pixel + (1,0.75))

which work only for the area in the complex plane of
real(w) = -2 to 2 and imag(w) = 1.5 to -1.5.

Note to developers: it sure would be nice to have the corners info
or the center-mag info available to formulas (it's not, is it?).

The things you CAN do with the formula include: changing the Julia
set coordinates, changing the size factor for any of the four
Julias, and changing the colormap.

The reason I wrote this formula was to see what was possible to
do using some of Fractint's builtin formula variables (scrnpix
and scrnmax) that I've never used before.  I will probably be
playing around with crazy formulas like this one a little more.
I'll post anything that I think is interesting.

Paul Carlson


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From: "Paul J. Gellings" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Deskjet
Date: 06 Jun 1998 18:22:02 +0200

Hi Damien and Ian,

Thank you for your suggestion! I already have Paintshop Pro so I will use
that.

Sorry about the MIME encoding, but I didn't know that that should not be
used. I have tried to put it off and hope that was successful.

Kindest regards and thanks again,

Paul J. Gellings



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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 3 little pars...(eyes)
Date: 06 Jun 1998 20:02:25 EDT


Here's some more fractal pie....for the eyes!  The first reminds me of a side
view of an eye-ball(kind of). Every one sees something different usually. The
2nd might be a frontal view of an eye possibly, and the 3rd seems to be an eye
of a hurricane.
Enjoy~

Jim
*************************************************************************

Optic_Verve        { ; another Sylvie Gallet frm.
                     ; 6/06/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-5.frm
  formulaname=gallet-5-08 function=asin/tanh/atan passes=1
  center-mag=1.6698/-1.6698/0.433191/1.3018/45 params=3/0/10/0/-1/0
  float=y maxiter=255 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=00000L012<12>AFSBGUAFS<14>0007Mw<4>e00<4>zz0<4>UFw00`<5>`oz<4>YFw\
  <2>sff0o`000<14>zo`<15>000000<13>J9`KAcJDc<14>0z`<14>Zky`jzaky<13>rudsvc\
  rsd<14>WFx<15>zo`<15>0F0MMU<13>_mx`hz<30>CHS
  }


Synapse            { ; less than a min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/06/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=fn*z+z function=cosxx passes=t
  center-mag=-1.508e-005/0.00392863/0.79714
  params=-0.9/0.875/0.975/0.75 inside=epsiloncross potential=255/400/0
  symmetry=xyaxis
  colors=000zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>00\
  0<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<1\
  3>4zz<15>zz0<15>z1z<15>000<15>0f0<14>vy0
  }


Hurricane          { ; less than 2min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/06/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1730 type=mandel passes=t
  center-mag=-0.18264047300000000/+0.66142476899999990/3987.515/2.1796/-10\
  0.056/-2.652 params=0/0 maxiter=30000 logmap=yes finattract=y
  colors=000660990AA0<6>MM0OO3QQ6SS9WWC__0cc0ii0oo0ww0zz0zzOzzczzzxxxuuuqq\
  q<2>___UUUQQQ<2>EEE00E<25>00d00e00e<19>00y00z11z22z<58>yyzzzzzyy<7>zqqzp\
  pzqq<5>zkkzjjzgg<42>z11z00y00x00<42>I00330
  }

********************************************************************
By the way....what's a *fractual* ? <g>
http://members.aol.com/JimBeau549/index.html

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From: Japan & Linda <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Fractal Chat??
Date: 07 Jun 1998 19:52:39 -0700

I'miInterested in a chat.  I hope I can figure it out when a chat is decided upon.
    Greg

Bob Margolis wrote:

> RJ Corradino wrote:
> >
> > Is there a fractal chat scheduled for today?
>
> Angela at [e-mail] usually arranges the chat sessions.
>
> Angela, if you read this, what doth sayest you?
>
> Bob
>
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From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Updated web page
Date: 06 Jun 1998 22:55:18 -0400

I am very much impressed with Phil DiGiorgi's Pd-hc_grav2 formula. It
combines a variation of an extremely versatile formula - Bud
Christenson's Gravijul - with one of Paul Carlson's coloring methods,
and gives no less than seven user definable parameters in the process.
That is a winning combination! I already posted several pars based on
this formula, but I don't really want to post any more, since I have 50
of them. But I invite you to visit my web site where I put 21 of them on
a page of their own - click the link "Images based on PD-HC_GRAV2
formula." If interested, you can also download all 50 pars. I hope you
enjoy them. Thanks Phil for a great formula.

Gedeon

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From: "RJ Corradino" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Re: Fractal Chat??
Date: 07 Jun 1998 10:00:53 -0400

I haven't heard from Angela yet, but if anyone wants to meet me around 11:00
EST I'll be there.  Undernet(us.undernet.org server gives you a random
Undernet server, eu.undernet.org for Europe), #fractals.  If anyone has a
problem, let me know.

Sorry for the short notice.  I had a busy week, and I'm just getting caught
up on email now.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Japan & Linda
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 1998 10:53 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Fractal Chat??
>
>
> I'miInterested in a chat.  I hope I can figure it out when a chat
> is decided upon.
>     Greg


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From: "Phil DiGiorgi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Four-in-one Julia Formula
Date: 07 Jun 1998 12:29:30 -0400

Paul,

A very impressive and interesting formula.   The upper left seems to use the 3D_Balls method, and
lower right the Shields method.   Which are the other two?

BTW, I saved a copy of the 4juls_1 image in 5 different resolutions.   It is perfect for tweaking
monitor calibration settings for Fractint.


Phil D.
[e-mail]



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From: "Phil DiGiorgi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Updated web page
Date: 07 Jun 1998 12:34:41 -0400

>But I invite you to visit my web site where I put 21 of them on
>a page of their own

Gedeon,

These are marvelous images!   Particularly thrilling for me to know that I had a small part in
bringing them about.   Nice work!


Phil D.
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Four-in-one Julia Formula
Date: 07 Jun 1998 13:19:18 -0500 (CDT)

Phil DiGiorgi wrote:

>A very impressive and interesting formula.   The upper left seems to
>use the 3D_Balls method, and lower right the Shields method.   Which
>are the other two?

Thanks, Phil!  The formula names for the four Julias are (as best I
can remember)

    Cdp_Julia               Mandel_Rings (Julia version)

    3D_Stalks_Julia         Shields_Mset (Julia version)

The Cdp_Julia is similar to the 3D Balls method, but uses a faster
rendering method.

I'm glad you found a use for one of the images.

I'll be posting a revision of this formula soon which incorporates
modifications by Sylvie Gallet that allow for some zoom capabilities.
I'll also be posting an Mset version of the formula - the changes to
do that should be trivial (famous last words!).

Paul Carlson



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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) Zoomable Four-in-one Julia Formula
Date: 07 Jun 1998 16:31:23 -0500 (CDT)

Some people have suggested that Sylvie and I collaborate on a
formula.  Well, this is as close as we've gotten to doing that
so far.  The formula below is my Four_Julias formula to which
Sylvie has added some zooming capabilities.  Sylvie began by
suggesting to me how I might add zooming to the formula. I tried
her suggestions but couldn't get them to work.  The problem was
that I was trying to zoom in on a portion of the upper-left
Julia, hoping that the portion in the zoom box would then be
dislayed in all four quadrants.  I told Sylvie that I thought
zooming was impossible without knowing what the pixel coordinates
of the zoom box are.  As it turns out, I was both right and
wrong.  I was right for the type of zooming I was trying to do,
but as this formula demonstrates, a certain type of zooming
is possible.

I think it's really something that Sylvie could accomplish this
by adding just 9 lines of code and changing 4 more!

To use zooming with this formula, you have to mentally expand
one of the quadrants to fill the whole screen and then zoom
into that expanded image (does this make sense?).  In other
words, you are not going to get what you see inside the zoom
box.  But try it - it's not that difficult.  The pars
4juls_z3 and 4juls_z4 were done this way.  The first two
pars are identical to those in the original formula.

Paul Carlson

frm:Four_Julias_Z     {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                       ; Zooming added by Sylvie Gallet, 6/7/98
    ; p1       = Julia set coordinates
    ; real(p2) = size factor, upper left  quadrant
    ; imag(p2) = size factor, upper right quadrant
    ; real(p3) = size factor, lower left  quadrant
    ; imag(p3) = size factor, lower right quadrant
    ;
    c = p1
    z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0
    px = real(scrnpix), py = imag(scrnpix)
    hmx = 0.5 * real(scrnmax)
    hmy = 0.5 * imag(scrnmax)
    IF ((px < 2) || (px > (real(scrnmax) - 3)) || \
    (py < 2) || (py > (imag(scrnmax) - 3)) || \
       ((px > hmx - 2) && (px < hmx + 1))      || \
       ((py > hmy - 2) && (py < hmy + 1)))
    z = 252
    bailout = 1
    IF (px == 0 && py == 0)
        z0 = pixel
    ENDIF
    IF (px == 1 && py == 0)
        delta_x = real(scrnmax) * (pixel - z0)
    ENDIF
    IF (px == 0 && py == 1)
        delta_y = imag(scrnmax) * (pixel - z0)
    ENDIF
    ENDIF
    IF (bailout == 0)
    IF (px < hmx)
        IF (py > hmy)
        w = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0) - delta_y
        size = real(p3)
        quad = 3
        ELSE
        prev_w = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0)
        size = real(p2)
        skip = real(p3)
        quad = 1
        ENDIF
    ELSEIF (py > hmy)
        w = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0) - delta_x - delta_y
        size = imag(p3)
        k = 0.5 + size
        j = 0.5 - size
        quad = 4
    ELSE
        w = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0) - delta_x
        size = imag(p2)
        quad = 2
    ENDIF
    index_factor = 29 / size
    ENDIF
    :
    IF (bailout == 0)
    IF (quad == 1)
        w = prev_w * prev_w + c
        dist = |prev_w| / |w|
        prev_w = w
    ELSE
        w = w * w + c
        IF (quad == 2)
        dist = abs(|w|-.25)
        ELSEIF (quad == 3)
        IF (abs(real(w)) <= abs(imag(w)))
            dist = abs(real(w))
        ELSE
            dist = abs(imag(w))
        ENDIF
        ELSEIF (quad == 4)
        awr = abs(real(w)), awi = abs(imag(w))
        IF ((awr < k) && (awr > j) && \
            (awi < k) && (awi > j))
            awr5 = abs(awr - 0.5), awi5 = abs(awi - 0.5)
            IF (awr5 <= awi5)
            dist = awr5
            ELSE
            dist = awi5
            ENDIF
        ELSE
            dist = 1.0e30
        ENDIF
        ENDIF
    ENDIF
    IF (dist < size && iter > 0)
        bailout = 1
        z = index_factor * dist + range_num * 30 + 1
    ENDIF
    ENDIF
    range_num = range_num + 1
    IF (range_num == 8)
        range_num = 0
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0 && |w| < 4
}

4juls_z1           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=4julsz.frm
  formulaname=four_julias_z passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=0.35408308/0.095460802/0.07/0.01/0.04/0.05
  float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40\
  zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<9>000zzz000000000
  }

4juls_z2           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=4julsz.frm
  formulaname=four_julias_z passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=-0.3393105491995811/0.6264574211090803/0.04/0.03/0.03/0.08
  float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000zW0<28>c400zz<28>0CCz0f<28>O08zz0<28>aG0GGz<28>00Oz\
  88<28>O000zR<28>0C4fOz<28>I0K000<9>000zzz000000000
 }

4juls_z3            { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=4julsz.frm
  formulaname=four_julias_z passes=1
  corners=0.07/0.55/0.78/1.14
  params=0.35408308/0.095460802/0.07/0.01/0.04/0.05
  float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40\
  zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<9>000zzz000000000
  }

4juls_z4           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=4julsz.frm
  formulaname=four_julias_z passes=1
  center-mag=0.36755/0.364801/13.36837
  params=0.35408308/0.095460802/0.07/0.01/0.04/0.05
  float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40\
  zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<9>000zzz000000000
  }


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Bug correction on new Truemand formula parser
Date: 07 Jun 1998 17:48:19 EDT

Well, the inevitable happened. When I tried to create a fractal animation
using the formula parser, it didn't work. The bug was easy to fix, and the
revised version is now available on my web site. I have also put a new fractal
animation on the animation page. The animation was produced with fhe formula
parser and a variation of one of Sylvie's formulas.

http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001

Ron Barnett

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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) Cpd_Julia for Mike Traynor
Date: 07 Jun 1998 16:51:37 -0500 (CDT)

I'm posting this to the list because Mike Traynor's isp will not
accept email from Netcom.  I figure this is OK since some others
may have missed the formula.

Mike wrote:

>Could you post the Cdp_Julia formula, or would it be easy for those of
>us who are not formula adepts to make by cutting and pasting?

Here it is.  I had the name slightly wrong.  I'd forgotten I'd written
the formula to do both Msets and Julia sets.  I've included a few of
the original pars.


frm:Cdp_Jul_Mand {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
    ; real(p1) = 0 if Mset, otherwise Julia set
    ; imag(p1) = maximum value of ratio (try 0.01 to 0.3)
    ; p2       = Julia set coordinates (not used if Mset)
    ; real(p3) = number of color ranges
    ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range
    ;
    z = iter = range_num = bailout = 0
    IF (real(p1) == 0)
    prev_w = 0
    c = pixel
    ELSE
    prev_w = pixel
    c = p2
    ENDIF
    max_r = imag(p1)
    num_ranges = real(p3)
    colors_in_range = imag(p3)
    index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / max_r
    :
    w = prev_w * prev_w + c
    ;
    r = |prev_w| / |w|
    prev_w = w
    IF (r < max_r && iter > 0)
    bailout = 1
    z = index_factor * r + range_num * colors_in_range + 1
    ENDIF
    range_num = range_num + 1
    IF (range_num == num_ranges)
    range_num = 0
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0 && |w| < 4
}

dragon_8e          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                     ; Julia set near period 8 bulb
                     ; near Elephant Valley
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=cdpjm.par
  formulaname=cdp_jul_mand passes=1
  center-mag=-4.44089e-016/3.33067e-016/0.8503401
  params=1/0.07/0.35408308/0.095460802/8/30
  float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0\
  C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<13>000
  }

dragon_8s          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                     ; Julia set near period 8 bulb
                     ; near Seahorse Valley
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=cdpjm.par
  formulaname=cdp_jul_mand passes=1
  center-mag=-4.44089e-016/2.22045e-016/0.8912656
  params=1/0.04/-0.3393105491995811/0.6264574211090803/8/30
  float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000zW0<28>c400zz<28>0CCz0f<28>O08zz0<28>aG0GGz<28>00Oz8\
  8<28>O000zR<28>0C4fOz<28>I0K000<13>000
  }

dragon_4e          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                     ; Julia set near period 4 bulb
                     ; near Elephant Valley
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=cdpjm.par
  formulaname=cdp_jul_mand passes=1
  center-mag=-3.33067e-016/0/0.8197279
  params=1/0.07000000000000001/0.2880725730210543/0.4825050327\
  926874/4/60
  float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000z88<58>O00zz0<58>aG00zR<58>0C4GGz<58>00O000<13>000
  }



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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) More about Four_Julias_z
Date: 07 Jun 1998 17:04:18 -0500 (CDT)

I forgot to mention some things about the zoomable Four_Julias formula.
When Sylvie send me her modification of the formula she mentioned this:

>  With this new version, the image can be rotated and zoomed into, but it
>can't be interrupted with any key other than <tab> (this is due to the fact
>that z0, delta_x and delta_y are initialized only once per image and that
>they are reset to 0 when the image is resumed).

Paul Carlson




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From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) More about Four_Julias_z
Date: 07 Jun 1998 16:58:06 -0700

> From: Paul and/or Joyce Carlson <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (fractint) More about Four_Julias_z
> Date: Sunday, June 07, 1998 3:04 PM
>
> I forgot to mention some things about the zoomable Four_Julias formula.
> When Sylvie send me her modification of the formula she mentioned this:
>
> >  With this new version, the image can be rotated and zoomed into, but it
> >can't be interrupted with any key other than <tab> (this is due to the fact
> >that z0, delta_x and delta_y are initialized only once per image and that
> >they are reset to 0 when the image is resumed).
>
> Paul Carlson

Paul has out done himself here, in fact he has four-up-ed himself! I am
reminded of my eighth-grade teacher who grew up as a boy with 4 sisters
to deal with. I asked him how that could be so bad (I have one sister).
I reasoned the 4 sisters would keep each other busy. Well, he replied
that they "4-up" on you.

By the way, there is an 4 in one image upcoming in the Dr. J series
(Fractal-art list). But it will be zoomable but a different kind of four in
one.

There is one more thing to note about zooming Paul's image. If you
try to pan, the image only draws the new part. You will also need to
do a slight zoom in or out. Here, let me try one here... boy this is
_neato_.

Jay
PS. Hi Kathy and Wizzle.

4juls_z1-z2        { ; Jay Hill's zoom of Paul Carlson's June 1998 image
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=carlsonz.par
  formulaname=four_julias_z passes=1
  center-mag=0.389287/0.380634/2.700825/1/90
  params=0.35408308/0.095460802/0.07/0.01/0.04/0.05
  float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28\
  >c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGG\
  z<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<9>000zzz000000000
  }


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint)partobat rte200
Date: 07 Jun 1998 20:01:25 EDT

Greetings,
I'm recieving "run time error 200 "   in partobat { the new version of it } on
a pentium2\266.
Is there a correction for this?
All coments welcome.
Steve

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PAR Quickie5
Date: 07 Jun 1998 20:43:57 EDT

Good weather hiatus.

I'm tossed between the math and the art.  Should the math and choas destine
the art or should we bend the math and apply structure to the chaos to give us
a nice image.  What are the pros of one versus the pros of the other or maybe
its just a personal preference.

Quickie posting
Lily_of_the_Halley { ; RSP 06JUN98
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf004.frm
  formulaname=rspf_4032
  center-mag=-0.549926/-4.44089e-016/0.5466667/1/-90 params=1/0/4/0
  float=y maxiter=56 inside=255 periodicity=0
  colors=KIfU87<5>zul<8>`46`00<2>S00P00N12<7>0FM<4>OXET`CXbB<6>xt0<9>`00<7\
  >zyn<8>yUF<3>yHL<8>ZDQWCQTBRQASN9SK8TG7U<2>C7LA7I87E67B578375<6>BOH<5>ZO\
  obOudRu<3>kbs<5>HEJ000B9D657000<13>Xcr<15>000232<10>5Pw<6>zo`<5>5Pw<6>00\
  0CC9<13>wvk<2>rRf<7>IDgJFgKGgLJf<6>QUd<11>400<2>A00C00C00<11>N00000
  }

Bizarre_1          { ; RSP 06JUN98
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf004.frm
  formulaname=rspf_4050 passes=t
  center-mag=-0.00742039/-0.354789/2.709851 params=1.01/0 float=y
  maxiter=100 inside=255 periodicity=0 video=sf5
  colors=0000II<6>0zz<9>r0r<9>000<219>xxx000yyyyyyzzz000066CCC
  }

Math_Art1          { ; RSP 06JUN98
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf005.frm
  formulaname=rspf_5030 passes=t
  center-mag=-0.200313/0.713987/2.73224 params=0.25/0 float=y
  maxiter=100 inside=255 periodicity=0
  colors=KIf<2>NMfNOeOPeORePSeQUd<11>400<2>A00C00C00<12>O00<6>zul<8>`46`00\
  <2>S00P00N12<7>0FM<4>OXET`CXbB<6>xt0<9>`00<7>zyn<8>yUF<3>yHL<8>ZDQWCQTBR\
  QASN9SK8TG7U<2>C7LA7I87E67B578375<6>BOH<5>ZOobOudRu<3>kbs<5>HEJ000B9D657\
  000<13>Xcr<15>000232<10>5Pw<6>zo`<5>5Pw<6>000CC9<13>wvk<2>rRf<7>IDgJFgKG\
  g
  }

Spiral_009         { ; RSP 07JUN98
  reset=1960 type=barnsleyj1 passes=t
  center-mag=0.525822/-0.300626/7.751938
  params=-0.49784779/0.89781485427 float=y maxiter=256 bailoutest=manh
  periodicity=0
  colors=KIfcAA`45`00<3>P00N11K34<6>0FL<4>OXDT`BXbA<6>xt0<9>`00c85<6>zym<8\
  >yUE<3>yHK<8>ZDPWCPTBQQARN9RK8SG7T<2>C7KA7H87D67A577374<6>BOG<5>ZOnbOtdR\
  t<3>kbr<5>HEI000B9C656000<13>Xcq<13>456232000231<10>5Pv<6>zo_<5>5Pv<6>00\
  0CC8<13>wvj<2>rRe<7>IDfJFfKGfLJe<6>QUc<9>856632400<2>A00C00C00<12>O00<6>\
  zuk<6>fGF
  }

frm:rspf_5030{    ;RSP 07JUN98
       z=pixel:
       g=sqr(z)*sqr(z)*z-z*sqr(z)+1,
       h1=5*sqr(z)*sqr(z)-3*sqr(z),
       h2=20*z*sqr(z)-6z,
       h3=60*sqr(z)-6,
       h=h1*h3/sqr(h2),
       z=z-p1*g/h,
       .0001<=|g|}

frm:rspf_4032    {;RSP 06JUN98
  z=4*pixel:
zz=sqr(z),
f=4*zz*z-3*z,
g=12*zz-3,
h=24*z,
z=z-P1*f/(g-f*f/2/h)
(1+real(z*h/g)) <=(0+P2) }

frm:rspf_4050    {;RSP 06JUN98
c=50*pixel, z=(1,1):
zz=sqr(z),
f=zz*zz*z-zz*z+c,
g=5*zz*zz-3*zz,
h=20*zz*z-6*z,
z=z-p1*f/(g-f*f/2/h),
.0001<=|f|}



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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) More about Four_Julias_z
Date: 07 Jun 1998 20:36:20 -0500 (CDT)

Jay,

>There is one more thing to note about zooming Paul's image. If you
>try to pan, the image only draws the new part. You will also need to
>do a slight zoom in or out. Here, let me try one here... boy this is
>_neato_.

Thanks for the info.  Here's another thing I've discovered: if you
use passes=g you will mess up all of the images except the one in
the upper-left quadrant.  This is because the zooming code uses
the values of the pixels (0,0), (0,1) and (1,0) to get horizontal
and vertical distances between pixels and with passes=g the pixels
at (0,1) and (1,0) are skipped on the first pass.

Paul Carlson



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From: JoWeber <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Cpd_Julia for Mike Traynor
Date: 07 Jun 1998 21:36:54 -0400

Hi,

>Could you post the Cdp_Julia formula, or would it be easy for those of
>us who are not formula adepts to make by cutting and pasting?

>Here it is.  I had the name slightly wrong.  I'd forgotten I'd written
>the formula to do both Msets and Julia sets.  I've included a few of
>the original pars.

Very nice series. Use the following color-plugin to see a tattoo-effect.
Cheers --Jo--

jowe_dragon          { ; color-plugin for Paul Carlson's dragons
                                ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  colors=3D000r_FtaDvdByg8yh5yi3yg3<2>ga3<33>301<11>b0Ee0Ff5I<10>zzs<7>fV=
7cQ\
  0`O0<2>SI0<6>P60<2>G00<4>0Qc<6>8bcAdcDed<11>tupxwrzyt<7>ylDxj2wiK<3>vc4=
u\
  a0ub3<3>vhJviNvjPwkR<7>zwu<13>wCM<7>H84<12>hMB<14>H84FB3PG3<6>zk0<3>0kk=
<\
  2>WgD<3>CXF<7>KSDLSDMRCOQBORA<2>OK8OH7OE6NB5PC6<7>eLAhMBiOD<3>nVJpXH
  }


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From: JoWeber <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint)partobat rte200
Date: 07 Jun 1998 21:44:54 -0400

Hi Steve,
I sent the message to Michael,
but he is away for vacation until June 12.
Be patient.
Cheers  --Jo--

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Subject: Re: (fractint)partobat rte200
Date: 07 Jun 1998 22:04:06 EDT

In a message dated 98-06-07 21:55:29 EDT, you write:

<< Hi Steve,
 I sent the message to Michael,
 but he is away for vacation until June 12.
 Be patient.
 Cheers  --Jo-- >>

Thank you Joe....no hurry. Its on Machine # 2 ...
I'll watch for any other suggestions.
Cheers
Steve

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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Cpd_Julia for Mike Traynor
Date: 07 Jun 1998 21:56:11 -0500 (CDT)

Hi Jo,

>Very nice series. Use the following color-plugin to see a tattoo-effect.
>Cheers --Jo--

Thanks for the colormap.  Nice effect.  Just goes to show there's
more than one way to paint a dragon!

Paul Carlson



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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) PAR Quickie5
Date: 08 Jun 1998 17:26:41 +1200

At 20:43 07/06/98 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>I'm tossed between the math and the art.  Should the math and choas destine
>the art or should we bend the math and apply structure to the chaos to
give us
>a nice image.  What are the pros of one versus the pros of the other or maybe
>its just a personal preference.
>

What's the difference? :-)

Really, the only that distinguishes mathematics from other art media is
that it requires the learning of its own language (and to some extent, that
language is an art form in its own right).

So mathematical art or artistic mathematics? I say it is a personal
preference - it's the same thing anyway, so go with what turns you on the
most!

Morgan L. Owens

"Music is the pleasure the human soul experiences from counting without
being aware that it is counting."
    Gottfried Leibniz

Ripples            { ; Cyberhippy Op Art
                     ; with a faint wiff of the '60s
                     ; 1024x768x256 for best effect
  reset=1950 type=circle
  corners=-1.173717/1.173717/-4.849146/4.849146/-0.02395341/-4.849146
  params=2000000 float=y maxiter=2047 inside=255
  colors=000<17>333333111333<9>555555666777777999999BBB<4>FFFGGGIII<9>RRR1\
  11<6>222___<15>llllllnnn<2>qqqqqqrrrrrrttt<4>xxxxxxzzz<46>ggggggfffeee<4\
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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) Four Mandels Formula
Date: 08 Jun 1998 01:22:57 -0500 (CDT)

comment {
Here is the Mset version of my Four_Julias_Z formula.  The
same limitations apply plus these images cannot be rotated
(maybe in a later version).  The par I've included is already
a fairly deep zoom, so after displaying it you can press the
"z" key, then the "F6" key, then the "F4" key, and then "Enter"
twice to get the whole Mset (which probably won't look very
good, but it will give you something to zoom into).

Paul Carlson
}

frm:Four_Mandels     {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
              ; Zooming added by Sylvie Gallet, 6/7/98
    ; real(p1) = size factor, upper left  quadrant
    ; imag(p1) = size factor, upper right quadrant
    ; real(p2) = size factor, lower left  quadrant
    ; imag(p2) = size factor, lower right quadrant
    ;
    z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0
    w1 = w2 = w3 = w4 = 0
    px = real(scrnpix), py = imag(scrnpix)
    hmx = 0.5 * real(scrnmax)
    hmy = 0.5 * imag(scrnmax)
    IF ((px < 2) || (px > (real(scrnmax) - 3)) || \
    (py < 2) || (py > (imag(scrnmax) - 3))  || \
       ((px > hmx - 2) && (px < hmx + 1))      || \
       ((py > hmy - 2) && (py < hmy + 1)))
    z = 252
    bailout = 1
    IF (px == 0 && py == 0)
        z0 = pixel
    ENDIF
    IF (px == 1 && py == 0)
        delta_x = real(scrnmax) * real(pixel - z0)
    ENDIF
    IF (px == 0 && py == 1)
        delta_y = flip(imag(scrnmax) * imag(pixel - z0))
    ENDIF
    ENDIF
    IF (bailout == 0)
    IF (px < hmx)
        IF (py > hmy)
        c = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0) - delta_y
        size = real(p2)
        a1 = 0.6, b1 = 0.3, a2 = 0.2, b2 = 0.4
        quad = 3
        ELSE
        c = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0)
        size = real(p1)
        rad = 0.5
        quad = 1
        ENDIF
    ELSEIF (py > hmy)
        c = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0) - delta_x - delta_y
        size = imag(p2)
        k = 0.5 + size
        j = 0.5 - size
        quad = 4
    ELSE
        c = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0) - delta_x
        size = imag(p1)
        quad = 2
    ENDIF
    index_factor = 29 / size
    ENDIF
    :
    IF (bailout == 0)
    IF (quad == 1)
        w1 = w1 * w1 + c
        w = w1
        ang = atan(imag(w1) / real(w1))
        astroid = rad * (cos(ang)^3 + (0,1) * sin(ang)^3)
        dist = abs(|w1| - |astroid|)
    ELSEIF (quad == 2)
        w2 = w2 * w2 + c
        w = w2
        dist = abs(|w2| - .25)
    ELSEIF (quad == 3)
        w3 = w3 * w3 + c
        w = w3
        ang = atan(imag(w3) / real(w3))
        ell1 = a1 * cos(ang) + (0,1) * b1 * sin(ang)
        dist1 = abs(cabs(w3) - cabs(ell1))
        ell2 = b2 * cos(ang) + (0,1) * a2 * sin(ang)
        dist2 = abs(cabs(w3) - cabs(ell2))
        IF (dist1 < dist2)
        dist = dist1
        ELSE
        dist = dist2
        ENDIF
    ELSEIF (quad == 4)
        w4 = w4 * w4 + c
        w = w4
        awr = abs(real(w4)), awi = abs(imag(w4))
        IF ((awr < k) && (awr > j) && \
        (awi < k) && (awi > j))
        awr5 = abs(awr - 0.5), awi5 = abs(awi - 0.5)
        IF (awr5 <= awi5)
            dist = awr5
        ELSE
            dist = awi5
        ENDIF
        ELSE
        dist = 1.0e30
        ENDIF
    ENDIF
    ENDIF
    IF (dist < size && iter > 0)
    bailout = 1
    z = index_factor * dist + range_num * 30 + 1
    ENDIF
    range_num = range_num + 1
    IF (range_num == 8)
    range_num = 0
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0 && |w| < 4
}

4mandels_1       { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=4mands.frm
  formulaname=four_mandels passes=1
  center-mag=-1.99433313611100000/+0.00000000000000000/302955.5
  params=0.06/0.2/0.1/0.3/21/0
  float=y maxiter=256 inside=253 outside=summ periodicity=0
  colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\
  zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<9>000zzzzzz000000
  }


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 3 pars
Date: 08 Jun 1998 03:21:04 EDT




Something a little different....but the same! <g>  Enjoy~

Jim



Window05           { ; 0:01:10.63 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/06/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-06 function=cosh/cotan passes=1
  center-mag=0/0/0.1/1/45 params=0.1/0/0.25/0/0.1/0 float=y
  inside=bof60 decomp=255
  colors=000zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>00\
  0<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<1\
  0>3nn3rr5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1jf1f<10>000<15\
  >0f0<14>vy0
  }


Window09           { ; 0:01:10.80 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/06/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-06 function=sinh/tan passes=1
  center-mag=0/0/0.1/1/45 params=0.1/0/0.25/0/0.1/0 float=y
  inside=bof60 decomp=255
  colors=0000R0<5>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB\
  0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>7955\
  74354033077<10>3nn3rr5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1j\
  f1f<10>000<8>0O0
  }


Window12           { ; 0:01:39.42 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/06/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-06 function=sinh/tan passes=1
  center-mag=-1.77636e-015/7.99361e-015/0.2173913/1/44.999
  params=0.1/0/-0.5/0/0.1/0 float=y inside=bof60 decomp=255
  colors=0000R0<5>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB\
  0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>7955\
  74354033077<10>3nn3rr5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1j\
  f1f<10>000<8>0O0
  }

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From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) More about Four_Julias_z
Date: 08 Jun 1998 04:27:41 -0400

Hi All,

  For panning, you don't need to zoom in or out: just select the same vid=
eo
mode.

  Other limitation: savetime=3D must be disabled.

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 2 pars
Date: 08 Jun 1998 05:38:28 EDT




Here are 2 more until tomorrow night. Enjoy~

Jim
*********************


Temple             { ; 0:03:33.39 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/05/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=triangl.frm
  formulaname=tri-fn+fn function=log/sin passes=1
  center-mag=-3.43793/1.72085e-015/5.600894/1/90 params=4/0.12/0.875/0
  float=y maxiter=255 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=000zzW<7>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000\
  <15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<10\
  >3nn3rr5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1jf1f<10>000<15>\
  0f0<15>zz0<6>zzS
  }


Heart              { ; 0:03:33.61 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/05/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=triangl.frm
  formulaname=tri-fn+fn function=log/sin passes=1
  center-mag=-14.0615/4.88498e-015/1.181903/1/90 params=4/0.12/0.875/0
  float=y maxiter=255 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=000zzZ<6>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000\
  <15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<10\
  >3nn3rr5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1jf1f<10>000<15>\
  0f0<15>zz0<7>zzW
  }

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 2 barnsley pars
Date: 08 Jun 1998 06:10:12 EDT



Here are 2 images from inverted barnsley fractals. Enjoy!~

Jim
**************************

Razz_I             { ; 5min? 800x600
                     ; 6/06/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=barnsleym1 passes=1
  center-mag=-0.10274675828914450/-0.02784082095563272/693.3702/1/-87.5
  params=1.276/0.21661 float=y maxiter=75 bailout=10000
  bailoutest=manh inside=bof60 invert=0.09/-0.02975303/0 decomp=256
  periodicity=-256
  colors=000bb7<4>TU8RS8PQ7<8>795574354033077<13>4zz<15>zz0<15>z1z<15>000<\
  15>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>00\
  0<15>S5N<15>zz0<11>dd6
  }


Art_Deco           { ; 0:02:16.33 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/07/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=barnsleym1 passes=t
  center-mag=+0.07703608954146682/-0.29408065371064680/153.8425/1/90
  params=0.707/0.606 float=y maxiter=25 bailout=10000 bailoutest=manh
  inside=bof60 outside=atan invert=0.5/-0.02975303/0 decomp=255
  periodicity=-256
  colors=000ii5<5>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<13>4\
  zz<15>zz0<15>z1z<15>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<1\
  4>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<7>kk4
  }

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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) Correction to Four Mandels Formula
Date: 08 Jun 1998 10:37:31 -0500 (CDT)

When I posted the Four_Mandels formula late (too late!) last
night I said that the images could not be rotated.  That is
true for the formula I posted.  However, I had made a
couple of unnecessary changes to Sylvie's code which killed
the rotation capabilities of the formula.  To restore the
rotation capabilities, in the block of code that reads:

        IF (px == 1 && py == 0)
            delta_x = real(scrnmax) * real(pixel - z0)
        ENDIF
        IF (px == 0 && py == 1)
            delta_y = flip(imag(scrnmax) * imag(pixel - z0))
        ENDIF

change the line that reads:

            delta_x = real(scrnmax) * real(pixel - z0)
to:
            delta_x = real(scrnmax) * (pixel - z0)

and the line that reads:

            delta_y = flip(imag(scrnmax) * imag(pixel - z0))
to:
            delta_y = imag(scrnmax) * (pixel - z0)

which will change the code back to the way Sylvie originally
had it.

So, why did I make those changes?  Essentially, I did two
things I shouldn't have done: First, refusing to accept the
fact that I can't program late at night the way I could
twenty years ago, I was working on the formula way too late
at night, and second, I made a change to make the formula
work without understanding why it didn't work, breaking a
cardinal rule of computer programming (and I think formulas
of this complexity have crossed the line from formula writing
into computer programming).

I originally used my 3Way rendering for the image in the
first quadrant instead of the Astroid rendering that is in
the present formula.  And I couldn't get any of the images
to display properly.  Failing to find any error in the 3Way
rendering code, I thought, "lets see what happens if I keep
delta_x horizontal and delta_y vertical."  So I made the
changes and, lo and behold, all the images displayed properly
except for the first quadrant.  I then used the Astroid
rendering for the first quadrant and all the images displayed
properly.  Then, it being very late, I said, "good enough"
and posted the formula without checking if the changes I had
were really necessary.  It's now obvious to me that I had
made some error in the cutting and pasting of the 3Way
rendering code that affected all four images.

Anyhow, my apologies to all, especially to Sylvie - I should
have never messed with her portion of the code - she's much
better at formula writing than I am.  I should have sent the
formula to her before I posted it, seeing as how I messed
with her code - next time I will.  My only excuse is that
around midnight several brain cells were fast asleep.

Paul Carlson



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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint)partobat rte200
Date: 08 Jun 1998 20:15:27 +0100

Steve wrote

>Thank you Joe....no hurry. Its on Machine # 2 ...
>I'll watch for any other suggestions.
>Cheers
>Steve

Hmm... If it is again because of the pascal crt error, you may use an
executable patch available from http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/zipfiles

Christian




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From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) brain cells
Date: 08 Jun 1998 11:53:43 -0700


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>  My only excuse is that
> around midnight several brain cells were fast asleep.
>
> Paul Carlson
>
Hey that's ok, I think you have lots of
brain cells to spare.

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From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Correction to Four Mandels Formula
Date: 08 Jun 1998 15:19:14 -0400

Hi Paul,

>> I should have sent the formula to her before I posted it, seeing as
>> how I messed with her code - next time I will.

  The question is: will there be a next time? <vvvvbg!>

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PARS
Date: 08 Jun 1998 13:12:29 -0700

I liked Gedeon's gp-dg25 and found this image-
was taken with how different types of color
maps bring out different aspects of the pattern.


1stainedglass      { ; 6-7-98 kathy roth
                     ; map by wizzle
       ; frm by Phil DiGiorgi adapted from Paul Carlson
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_grav2 function=abs/asin/log/asin passes=1
  center-mag=3.77476e-015/-3.77476e-015/0.9634695/1.1466/90
  params=2/5/0.11/0.11/0.11/0.11 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=0
  outside=summ logmode=fly invert=1/0/0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=000000<9>0zz<9>r0r<9>00\
0<47>000111333<29>zzz<30>222000000<39>000Z\
  0AU00<6>m00<7>T0m<4>F0F<2>000<45>zzz
  }

2stainedglass      { ; broccoli
                     ; map by Sylvie Gallet
   colors=aU0idI<21>FE2DD2CC1AA0AA0A\
B0<26>OREOSEOTEPUFQVG<29>xxxzzzzzz<29>i\
  _3hZ0gZ0<3>cW0bV0`T0<22>CB0AA0AA\
0<27>W`HXaIYbJZcKZcL<29>yyxzzzzzz<27>snR\
  smPsmOrlMqkM<4>jeJ
  }

3stainedglass      { ; satin & brocade
                     ; map by Sylvie Gallet
   colors=000000<24>``WbbYccZee`ffa<12>z\
zu<16>UUQSSOQQMOOLMMJKKH<8>22200000\
  0<75>000111223<29>cho<15>000<17>c0U<36>302
  }

4stainedglass      { ; map by Sylve Gallet
  colors=442RRN<38>AA5AA5994883<4>550\
000000000qxz<58>G_aFZ`FZ`FZ`<61>0AAyy\
  v<77>SSN
  }






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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 3 little pars(manlam)
Date: 08 Jun 1998 16:24:05 EDT




Here are 3 nice little pars....just started using partobat and it's really a
great timesaver!
Enjoy~

Jim
*******************************

manlam06           { ; 0:02:21.82 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/08/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=manlam(fn||fn) function=cosxx/cotan passes=1
  center-mag=-0.330822/6.21725e-015/0.1897159/1/90 params=0.5/0/25
  float=y bailoutest=manh inside=bof60 outside=real periodicity=0
  colors=000zzZ<6>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000\
  <15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<10\
  >3nn3rr5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1jf1f<10>000<15>\
  0f0<15>zz0<7>zzW
  }


X00009             { ; 0:03:27.07 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/08/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=manlam(fn||fn) function=cosh/cotan passes=1
  center-mag=0/0/0.1/1/90 params=0.05/0/25 float=y bailout=100
  bailoutest=manh inside=bof60 outside=real periodicity=0
  colors=000ZZZ<8>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N\
  <15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<10>3nn3rr\
  5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1jf1f<10>000<15>0f0<15>\
  zz0<15>zzz<5>bbb
  }


X00012             { ; 0:03:25.31 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/08/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=manlam(fn||fn) function=ident/tan passes=1
  center-mag=0/0/0.1/1/90 params=0.05/0/25 float=y bailout=100
  bailoutest=manh inside=bof60 outside=real periodicity=0
  colors=000fff<10>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5\
  N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<10>3nn3r\
  r5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1jf1f<10>000<15>0f0<15\
  >zz0<15>zzz<3>jjj
  }

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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Correction to
Date: 08 Jun 1998 20:12:10 -0400

Paul,

  Just to be safe, could you please repost that formula in it's entirety =
as
it should be?  With all of us making various cuts and pastes, there are
bound to be errors!  Somebody has already reported getting a "null pointe=
r
aassignment" when using the formula, although I didn't when I used the
version as originally posted.

Lee

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 3 little pars(fn*z+z)
Date: 08 Jun 1998 21:56:43 EDT



Here are 3 more really nice images!  Enjoy~

Jim
***********************************


synapse06          { ; 0:00:21.53 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/08/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=fn*z+z function=cotanh passes=t
  center-mag=-6.21725e-015/8.94076/0.5681818
  params=-0.9/0.875/0.975/0.75 float=y bailoutest=and
  inside=epsiloncross potential=255/400/0 symmetry=xyaxis
  colors=000z9rz5vz1z<15>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU\
  0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI\
  6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<13>4zz<15>zz0<12>zDn
  }


synapse10          { ; 0:00:10.22 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/08/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=fn*z+z function=cosxx passes=t
  center-mag=-2.66454e-015/1.77636e-015/0.4746835
  params=-0.9/0.875/0.975/0.75 float=y bailoutest=and
  inside=epsiloncross potential=255/400/0 symmetry=xyaxis
  colors=000zv4<14>z1z<15>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0a\
  U0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6H\
  I6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<13>4zz<15>zz0
  }


synapse17          { ; 0:00:09.01 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/08/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=fn*z+z function=cosxx passes=t
  center-mag=-2.88658e-015/2.22045e-015/0.4998001
  params=-0.5/0.975/1.125/1.1 float=y bailoutest=and
  inside=epsiloncross potential=255/400/0 symmetry=xyaxis
  colors=000KKK<4>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N\
  <15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<13>4zz<15\
  >zz0<15>z1z<15>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<9>OOO
  }

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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) Repost of corrected Four_Mandels
Date: 08 Jun 1998 22:04:47 -0500 (CDT)

Lee asked that I repost the corrected Four_Mandels formula.  Here it is:

Four_Mandels     {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                  ; Zooming added by Sylvie Gallet, 6/7/98
    ; real(p1) = size factor, upper left  quadrant
    ; imag(p1) = size factor, upper right quadrant
    ; real(p2) = size factor, lower left  quadrant
    ; imag(p2) = size factor, lower right quadrant
    ;
    prev_w = z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0
    w1 = w2 = w3 = w4 = 0
    px = real(scrnpix), py = imag(scrnpix)
    hmx = 0.5 * real(scrnmax)
    hmy = 0.5 * imag(scrnmax)
    IF ((px < 2) || (px > (real(scrnmax) - 3)) || \
    (py < 2) || (py > (imag(scrnmax) - 3))  || \
       ((px > hmx - 2) && (px < hmx + 1))      || \
       ((py > hmy - 2) && (py < hmy + 1)))
    z = 252
    bailout = 1
    IF (px == 0 && py == 0)
        z0 = pixel
    ENDIF
    IF (px == 1 && py == 0)
        delta_x = real(scrnmax) * (pixel - z0)
    ENDIF
    IF (px == 0 && py == 1)
        delta_y = imag(scrnmax) * (pixel - z0)
    ENDIF
    ENDIF
    IF (bailout == 0)
    IF (px < hmx)
        IF (py > hmy)
        c = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0) - delta_y
        size = real(p2)
        a1 = 0.6, b1 = 0.3, a2 = 0.2, b2 = 0.4
        quad = 3
        ELSE
        c = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0)
        size = real(p1)
        rad = 0.5
        quad = 1
        ENDIF
    ELSEIF (py > hmy)
        c = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0) - delta_x - delta_y
        size = imag(p2)
        k = 0.5 + size
        j = 0.5 - size
        quad = 4
    ELSE
        c = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0) - delta_x
        size = imag(p1)
        quad = 2
    ENDIF
    index_factor = 29 / size
    ENDIF
    :
    IF (bailout == 0)
    IF (quad == 1)
        w1 = w1 * w1 + c
        w = w1
        ang = atan(imag(w1) / real(w1))
        astroid = rad * (cos(ang)^3 + (0,1) * sin(ang)^3)
        dist = abs(|w1| - |astroid|)
    ELSEIF (quad == 2)
        w2 = w2 * w2 + c
        w = w2
        dist = abs(|w2| - .25)
    ELSEIF (quad == 3)
        w3 = w3 * w3 + c
        w = w3
        ang = atan(imag(w3) / real(w3))
        ell1 = a1 * cos(ang) + (0,1) * b1 * sin(ang)
        dist1 = abs(cabs(w3) - cabs(ell1))
        ell2 = b2 * cos(ang) + (0,1) * a2 * sin(ang)
        dist2 = abs(cabs(w3) - cabs(ell2))
        IF (dist1 < dist2)
        dist = dist1
        ELSE
        dist = dist2
        ENDIF
    ELSEIF (quad == 4)
        w4 = w4 * w4 + c
        w = w4
        awr = abs(real(w4)), awi = abs(imag(w4))
        IF ((awr < k) && (awr > j) && \
        (awi < k) && (awi > j))
        awr5 = abs(awr - 0.5), awi5 = abs(awi - 0.5)
        IF (awr5 <= awi5)
            dist = awr5
        ELSE
            dist = awi5
        ENDIF
        ELSE
        dist = 1.0e30
        ENDIF
    ENDIF
    ENDIF
    IF (dist < size && iter > 0)
    bailout = 1
    z = index_factor * dist + range_num * 30 + 1
    ENDIF
    range_num = range_num + 1
    IF (range_num == 8)
    range_num = 0
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0 && |w| < 4
}


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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) PARS
Date: 08 Jun 1998 22:41:59 -0500 (CDT)

Kathy wrote:

>I liked Gedeon's gp-dg25 and found this image-
>was taken with how different types of color
>maps bring out different aspects of the pattern.

Very nice, Kathy!  Here's yet another colormap to try:


5stainedglass      { ; Paul Carlson
  colors=000VVV<8>zzz<9>zzzzzzyyyxxx<42>VVVGGy<58>00OaG0<14>xw0\
  zz0zy0<44>aG0GGy<64>00O
  }


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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Deep-Zooming and Planck's Length
Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:15:51 -0400 (EDT)

On Sat, 16 May 1998, Dave Irwin wrote:
> Hi Fractint zealots
>   I am developing some theories in the world of the very small and
> have come across a definition called Planck's length which appears to
> suggest that there is a limit to a measure of 10 to the minus 33. As
> this measure is way bigger than that which can be developed in Deep
> Zooming - 19.5 documentation, page 144 quotes 10 to the 1600 - can
> you tell me if there is any discussion or reference on the web that
> rationalises this discrepancy.

Simple.  Quantum physics only applies to things in the real world, not
to mathematical constructs.

Planck's length is not 10^-33; that's a dimensionless number.  Planck's
length is about 1.6 x 10^-33 centimeters.

> The essence of the theories I am developing are to suggest that time
> is the THIRD dimension!!!

You'd do well to learn enough mathematics and physics to understand the
meaninglessness of that assertion before you continue to develop your
theories.  The Feynman Lectures on Physics are pretty good, and have
the advantage of being available in most bookstores.

Briefly, dimensions don't exist independently of one another, and no
dimension is first or last.  Particular dimensions are attributes of
whatever coordinate system you impose upon space.

Kragen


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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractals and Poetry
Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:45:57 -0400 (EDT)

On Sat, 16 May 1998, Les St Clair wrote:
> I suspect, as others have already said, you will probably achieve the best
> results using a program like Paint Shop Pro. With this you can easily overlay
> text, as a floating object, using any font, with the option of adding effects
> such as drop shadow, cut-out etc.

The ideal program for ths sort of work would be something like the GIMP
or Adobe PhotoShop.  With these programs, you can type your text, move
it around, delete pieces of it, add shadows, move it around more, and
then save it when you're done as a single image.  These programs have
these nifty things called layers that make this much easier.

Kragen


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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractals and Poetry
Date: 09 Jun 1998 15:09:53 -0400

Kragen,

 - The ideal program for ths sort of work would be something like the GIMP
 - or Adobe PhotoShop.  With these programs, you can type your text, move
 - it around, delete pieces of it, add shadows, move it around more, and
 - then save it when you're done as a single image.  These programs have
 - these nifty things called layers that make this much easier.

Paint Shop Pro 5 adds support for layers.  Other graphics programs that
support layers, in addition to Photoshop and GIMP, are Micrografx Picture
Publisher, Ulead PhotoImpact, and Corel Photo-Paint.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs)
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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From: "Les St Clair" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Zoomable Four-in-one Julia Formula
Date: 09 Jun 1998 20:27:05 +0100

Hi Paul,

First of all may I just say how much I really enjoy each and every one of your
wonderful formulas.
Your recent "four-in-one" series are both clever and visually compelling!

I have seen a problem, however, when rendering this one at 1600x1200:

4juls_z4           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998

The bottom portion of the image breaks into disjointed fragments. Strangely
enough it draws OK at lower resolutions, e.g. 1024x768, or at 1600x1200 with a
viewwindow reduction factor.
Any thoughts?

Anyone else seeing this?

cheers, Les




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From: jon camp <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) two spiderm pars
Date: 09 Jun 1998 16:29:21 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings!
Here are some interesting pars using the spiderm formula. Enjoy...

| jon camp                                                   |
| valparaiso univerisity <><                                 |
| chaotic n-space network                                    |
| http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/fractals_gate.html |



jcamp12            { ; 1998, jon camp
                     ; chaotic n-space network
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=spiderm1
  function=sinh/sqr passes=b
  center-mag=+0.07686053708256610/+0.07292652803696105/877.3814/1/-90
  params=2.35/0.1/0.9/0 float=y maxiter=1024 outside=imag logmap=20

colors=000321642863<5>RI9UKAWMBZOC<5>lZIn`JobKqdL<3>wlPxnQxpRyrS<3>zzWzx\

XzvY<3>xnawlbujcthd<5>jXjhWkeUlcSm<4>RIrOGsLEtICuFAvC8w86x64y32z00000132\

2643864<5>RIAUKBWMCZOD<5>lZJn`KobLqdM<3>wlQxnRxpSyrT<3>zzXzxYzvZ<3>xnbwl\

cujdthe<5>jXkhWleUmcSn<4>RIsOGtLEuICvFAwC8x86y64z320001002323644865<5>RI\

BUKCWMDZOE<5>lZKn`LobMqdN<3>wlRxnSxpTyrU<3>zzYzxZzv_<3>xncwldujethf<5>jX\

lhWmeUncSo<4>RItOGuLEvICwFAxC8y86z640321002003324645866<5>RICUKDWMEZOF<5\

>lZLn`MobNqdO<3>wlSxnTxpUyrV<3>zzZzx_zv`<3>xndwleujfthg<5>jXmhWneUocSp<4\
  >RIuOGvLEwICxFAyC8z cyclerange=0/255
  }

jcamp13            { ; 1998, jon camp
                     ; chaotic n-space network
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=spiderm1
  function=sinh/sqr center-mag=-0.0699929/6.97075e-005/4.171614/1/-90
  params=2.35/0.1/0.9/0 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=0 outside=real

colors=000000000K55<10>dAA<8>ww0<8>dAA<13>K55000000000F73<11>zUF<6>zyn<7\

>wUF<9>K55000000BJG<9>7U7<7>tsb<6>DXB<9>131000000000UU0<10>oo0<6>`z`<7>0\

UF<6>07F000000K55<11>ww0<5>zUF<9>K55000000PQI<10>svc<7>7U7<6>AKFBJGALI<7\
  >0``<6>`zh<13>00F000000 cyclerange=0/255
  }

frm:spiderM1 {; by Jean-Pierre Louvet
; minor shortcut by Bud 4/30/98
z=pixel,f=pixel, g = f + p2:
f=f/p1+z,
z=fn1(z^g)+fn2(f),
|z| <= 4 }
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From: "Jason Hine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Deep-Zooming and Planck's Length
Date: 09 Jun 1998 20:01:44 -0400



>On Sat, 16 May 1998, Dave Irwin wrote:
>> Hi Fractint zealots
>>   I am developing some theories in the world of the very small and
>> have come across a definition called Planck's length which appears to
>> suggest that there is a limit to a measure of 10 to the minus 33. As
>> this measure is way bigger than that which can be developed in Deep
>> Zooming - 19.5 documentation, page 144 quotes 10 to the 1600 - can
>> you tell me if there is any discussion or reference on the web that
>> rationalises this discrepancy.


[Kragen's reply snipped...]

I've been toying with the idea that perhaps the 'fractal formula' on which our
universe is based might someday be discovered.  This universe would be
represented, in it's entirety, by a single point in a fractal graph (i.e., 'a
pixel in a pretty picture' ;-) of possible universes.  Knowing the formula, we
could calculate the 'shape' of the graph in areas around our universe's point,
and gain insight into why our universe is the way that it is, as well as a whole
bunch of other stuff that physicists and clergypersons alike would give their
left shoe to know.

One might wonder what sort of accuracy the point on the graph of possible
universes would have to have, in order to result in our universe.  Roger Penrose
(1) uses measures of entropy and the assumption that this universe is closed
(i.e., there'll be a 'Big Crunch') to determine that the required accuracy would
be 10^(10^123), or thereabouts...

Now, there's something for the Stone Soup group to shoot for!  ;-)  And somebody
better talk to 'ol Bill and tell him we need a few 1000TeraHz chips when he's
got a sec...

Jason (Up from the murky depths of the List... gurgle!) Hine




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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Zoomable Four
Date: 09 Jun 1998 20:01:39 -0400

Hi Les,

>>I have seen a problem, however, when rendering this one at 1600x1200:

>>4juls_z4           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998

>>The bottom portion of the image breaks into disjointed fragments.
Strangely enough it draws OK at lower resolutions, e.g. 1024x768, or at
1600x1200 with a viewwindow reduction factor. Any thoughts? Anyone else
seeing this? <<

It worked fine for me!

Lee

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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Zoomable Four-in-one Julia Formula
Date: 09 Jun 1998 21:12:17 -0500 (CDT)

hi Les,

>First of all may I just say how much I really enjoy each and every one of your
>wonderful formulas.
>Your recent "four-in-one" series are both clever and visually compelling!

Thanks for the kind words - I'm very glad you enjoy them!

>I have seen a problem, however, when rendering this one at 1600x1200:
>
>4juls_z4           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
>
>The bottom portion of the image breaks into disjointed fragments. Strangely
>enough it draws OK at lower resolutions, e.g. 1024x768, or at 1600x1200 with a
>viewwindow reduction factor.
>Any thoughts?

My video card/monitor can't do 1600X1200 so I have no way of trying to
duplicate the problem.  I have tried it at 320x200, 640x480, 800x600
and 1024x768 with no problem.

Paul Carlson


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From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PAR: Embroidered Julia
Date: 09 Jun 1998 21:27:54 -0500

Embroidered_Julia  { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998
  reset=1960 type=julia passes=1
  center-mag=-4.44089e-016/3.33067e-016/0.8503401
  params=-0.7693898904558699/-0.116134694440232 float=y maxiter=2000
  bailout=10000 inside=maxiter logmap=2 distest=71/71/1024/768
  periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/0.75/yes/0/0
  colors=bWi<252>bWi000bWi cyclerange=1/1
  }

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From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) F'tint on a 400 MHz computer
Date: 09 Jun 1998 22:05:08 -0500

Hi Fractalizens:

Well, I've got our favorite fractal program loaded and running on my new
Compaq Presario 4880 Pentium II 400 MHz computer. WOW!

The program runs superiorly under Windows 95. It was very easy to set up
compared with the toil it took to make it work properly under Windows 95
on my 486/66 machine. There were some noticeable improvements to Windows
95 in the four years since I bought the 486/66 that must have
contributed to the ease in making a DOS-based program to run smoothly
under Windows.

I told you that I also bought a ViewSonic 17" monitor that was capable
of operating at a 1600 x 1200 resolution. Let me first say that if you
can save up to buy a 17" monitor, by all means do so. Fractint looks
absolutely stunning on a large-screen monitor. For the past couple of
years I have wanted to buy a 21" monitor, but found the cost
prohibitive. But the prices of 17" monitors are just several hundred
dollars.

I wan't able to run Fractint at the three 1600 x 1200 resolutions
available with the program. Two were created for Lee Skinner and the
third for Sylvie Gallet. My Compaq uses an ATI 3D Rage Pro (DirectX)
adapter with ATI Capture Drivers and ATI mach64 Display Driver. (Tim
Wegner: Hint. Hint. 8-) I'm on bended knees pleading for this addition.)
I was able, however, to run Fractint at the next higher resolution above
1024 x 768 without problem.

And talk about fast! Fractint is now a regular speed demon. Might even
be able to beat out the roadrunner. 8-)

And so ends my brief synopsis of Fractint running on a 400 MHz screamer.
Got to back back to my fractalart workshop.

See ya,

Bob

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From: Donald Archer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) F'tint on a 400 MHz computer
Date: 10 Jun 1998 01:01:22 -0400

Bob,

>I wan't able to run Fractint at the three 1600 x 1200 resolutions
>available with the program.

Thanks for the report. Sylvie gave me this configuration for my
Diamond Stealth PCI card maybe a couple of years ago:

4f02, 120, 0, 0, 28, 1600, 1200, 256

It works on my 17" Trinitron. Good luck!

Don


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) New Fractint Gallery
Date: 10 Jun 1998 01:31:18 EDT

Members of this list may be interested in my just opened second gallery of
Fractint fractals at:

http://members.aol.com/fractasy/fract2.htm

It's a fractalized mixed bag of everything from waterbugs to packing tape.  I
guess I just can't help seeing fractals as Rorschach blots, reflecting my own
inner version of the outside world!!

Mark

Mark's Fractal Worlds Gallery -
http://members.aol.com/maksoy/vistfrac/vistfrac.htm



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From: [e-mail] (Michael Traynor)
Subject: (fractint) FOTD Par Problems
Date: 10 Jun 1998 07:28:42 -0400 (EDT)

Can someone help me with some of Jim's FOTD pars?

The following pars:

Octopus_Garden        Seahorse_scene
ThisIsNotAJuliaSet    Oblate_Inferno
Grand_Convergence    What__me_worry
Oblate_Elephant

all give a blank screen for me.  Laser Beam, which uses
the same formula (Oblate) works though (and I am using the
version of Oblate that Jim included with the pars.

Has anyone else had such a problem?


--
Mike Traynor

People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like.
    Abraham Lincoln

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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD Par Prob
Date: 10 Jun 1998 09:13:05 -0400

>>Can someone help me with some of Jim's FOTD pars?

The following pars:

Octopus_Garden        Seahorse_scene
ThisIsNotAJuliaSet    Oblate_Inferno
Grand_Convergence    What__me_worry
Oblate_Elephant

all give a blank screen for me.  Laser Beam, which uses
the same formula (Oblate) works though (and I am using the
version of Oblate that Jim included with the pars.

Has anyone else had such a problem?<<

Mike,

This is what can happen when the same names are used for different formul=
as.
You probably have the OLD version of these formulas in your formula
collection.  Jim has changed them.

Oblate {; Jim Muth                     OLD version
z=3Dreal(pixel)+flip(real(p1)),
c=3Dflip(imag(pixel))+imag(p1):
z=3Dsqr(z)+c,
|z| <=3D 36
}

Oblate {; Jim Muth  real(z),imag(c)    NEW version
z=3Dreal(pixel)+p1,
c=3Dflip(imag(pixel))+p2:
z=3Dsqr(z)+c,
|z| <=3D 16
}

Parabolic {; Jim Muth                    OLD version
z=3Dimag(pixel)+flip(real(p1)),
c=3Dreal(pixel)+flip(imag(p1)):
z=3Dsqr(z)+c,
|z| <=3D 36
}

Parabolic {; Jim Muth  real(z),real(c)   NEW  version
z=3Dimag(pixel)+p1,
c=3Dreal(pixel)+p2:
z=3Dsqr(z)+c,
|z| <=3D 16
}

multirot-XY-ZW {; Jim Muth, best=3Difif, fiif, fifi, iffi    OLD version
a=3Dreal(p1)*.01745329251994, b=3Dimag(p1)*.01745329251994,
z=3Dsin(b)*fn1(real(pixel))+sin(a)*fn2(imag(pixel))+p2,
c=3Dcos(b)*fn3(real(pixel))+cos(a)*fn4(imag(pixel))+p3:
z=3Dsqr(z)+c,
|z| <=3D 36  }

multirot-XY-ZW {; draws all 6 planes and many rotations   NEW version
;when fn1-2=3Di,f, then p1 0,0=3DM, 0,90=3DO, 90,0=3DE, 90,90=3DJ
;when fn1-2=3Df,i, then p1 0,0=3DM, 0,90=3DR, 90,0=3DP, 90,90=3DJ
a=3Dreal(p1)*.01745329251994, b=3Dimag(p1)*.01745329251994,
z=3Dsin(b)*fn1(real(pixel))+sin(a)*fn2(imag(pixel))+p2,
c=3Dcos(b)*real(pixel)+cos(a)*flip(imag(pixel))+p3:
z=3Dsqr(z)+c,
|z| <=3D 36  }

I call the new versions Oblate_1, Parabolic_1, and multirot-XY-ZWa
in my collection, and the images generate fine!

Lee

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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Calc method
Date: 10 Jun 1998 10:23:35 -0400 (EDT)

On Sun, 17 May 1998, mctupper wrote:
> I don't know about others but for me, I prefer to use boundary. I enjoy
> watching the fractal being generated almost as much as seeing the final
> product. Tesseract is almost as much fun to watch.

I like this too.  And there's some option -- can't remember what it's
called -- that doesn't bother to fill in the boundaries/boxes, but
leaves them outlined.  I like that a lot.

Kragen


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From: Ray Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) First Par
Date: 10 Jun 1998 15:20:12 -0700


    Hello,

    I'm sending two pars - but since I don't yet know how to send two at once
- I have to send them one at a time.
     This is the first.

Seat_Cushion       { ; Frima209-001
                     ; 6/8/98
                     ; elmont
                     ; from FrimA4-023
  reset=1960 type=manfn+zsqrd function=cosxx
  center-mag=-1.67794800000000000/-1.04351806500000000/263.7864/1.0505/90/\
  -5.097 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=32000 inside=0
  potential=255/300/150 decomp=256
  colors=nG4<13>yc1ze0ze0<14>nG4KKc<11>RguSivTkxUmzUmz<11>NQhMOgLMeKKckD1<\
  11>rSGrUHsVItXKtXK<11>mI5mG4lF3kD1tIZ<13>yTnzUpzUp<14>tIZh00<11>q7Fr8Hs9\
  ItAKtAK<11>k35j23i12h00nG4<13>yc1ze0ze0<14>nG4KKc<11>RguSivTkxUmzUmz<11>\
  NQhMOgLMeKKckD1<11>rSGrUHsVItXKtXK<12>kD10a00Z0
  }

    Second one to follow.
                    Ray


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From: Ray Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Second
Date: 10 Jun 1998 15:26:22 -0700


    Hello, again

    This is the second par.



Fancy_Dress_Hal    { ; Frima206-034
                     ; 6/5/98
                     ; elmont
  reset=1960 type=lambda(fn||fn) function=sin/sqr
  center-mag=+0.20031298904538110/+0.22546972860125480/1.36612/1/40
  params=1/0.1/1 float=y bailout=4 periodicity=0
  colors=000K05<4>000<15>zzz<15>000<15>0gg<15>000<15>zzz<15>000<15>zn0<15>\
  000<15>zzz<15>004<8>B0XD0`E0cF0gG0jH0nI0qK0u<13>308204333<14>zzz<15>000<\
  15>z0G<9>O06
  }

                    Ray


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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) First Par
Date: 10 Jun 1998 18:03:55 -0500 (CDT)

Ray,

>    I'm sending two pars - but since I don't yet know how to send
>two at once
>- I have to send them one at a time.
>     This is the first.
>
>Seat_Cushion       { ; Frima209-001

Very nice image!  Looking forward to the second one.

Paul Carlson



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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 5 pars (Sylvie Gallet map)
Date: 10 Jun 1998 20:55:40 EDT



Here's some nice images, all but one make use of a color map from Sylvie
Gallet.

Jim
****************************************************************

mirage             { ; 0:00:31.96  map from Sylvie Gallet
                     ; 6/10/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=fn*z+z function=cosxx passes=t
  center-mag=3.10862e-015/1.33227e-014/0.456006/1/2.5
  params=-1/1/1/0.65 float=y bailout=4 bailoutest=and inside=bof60
  potential=255/400/0 symmetry=xyaxis
  colors=0009NJ<2>6GB5E86G9<10>FXIGZJH`KIbLJdMKfNLhM<12>wt1<12>DVF<2>CRECQ\
  DCPCCNBCMACLABJ9<3>BH8BG8AF7AE79D6<6>aLBeMCgODjQF<13>xnGypGzrF<2>ztWyt`y\
  ufxukxvqwww<9>kNNjJJhFFgBBf88d44c00<6>P00M00K00H00K21<8>hO6kQ6nT7qW8<2>z\
  bA<9>zzc<4>fqZaoY_mX<13>2SH0QG0OE1MD1KB<2>3D74A6684<2>A00<5>dU0jZ0oc0uh0\
  zm0<6>zU0<6>H40<2>A4773A73C<6>39Q2AS3CT<13>E`hFbiGdi<3>JklKmmJkj<9>AQM
  }


mirage2            { ; 0:00:14.88  map from Sylvie Gallet
                     ; 6/10/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=fn*z+z function=cotan passes=t
  center-mag=-5.32907e-015/3.55271e-015/0.2358491
  params=-1/0.8875/0.575/0.425 float=y bailout=4 bailoutest=and
  inside=bof60 potential=255/400/0 invert=1/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis
  colors=000Q72<6>hO6kQ6nT7qW8<2>zbA<9>zzc<4>fqZaoY_mX<13>2SH0QG0OE1MD1KB<\
  2>3D74A6684<2>A00<5>dU0jZ0oc0uh0zm0<6>zU0<6>H40<2>A4773A73C<6>39Q2AS3CT<\
  13>E`hFbiGdi<3>JklKmmJkj<7>CURBSPAQM9NJ8LG7IE6GB5E8<11>FXIGZJH`KIbLJdMKf\
  NLhM<12>wt1<12>DVF<2>CRECQDCPCCNBCMACLABJ9<3>BH8BG8AF7AE79D6<6>aLBeMCgOD\
  jQF<13>xnGypGzrF<2>ztWyt`yufxukxvqwww<9>kNNjJJhFFgBBf88d44c00<6>P00M00K0\
  0H00K21N42
  }


mirage3            { ; 0:00:11.15  map from Sylvie Gallet
                     ; 6/10/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=fn*z+z function=tanh passes=t
  center-mag=-8.43769e-015/5.77316e-015/0.459881
  params=-1/0.8875/0.575/0.425 float=y bailout=4 bailoutest=and
  inside=bof60 potential=255/400/0 invert=1/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis
  colors=000K00H00<9>hO6kQ6nT7qW8<2>zbA<9>zzc<4>fqZaoY_mX<13>2SH0QG0OE1MD1\
  KB<2>3D74A6684<2>A00<5>dU0jZ0oc0uh0zm0<6>zU0<6>H40<2>A4773A73C<6>39Q2AS3\
  CT<13>E`hFbiGdi<3>JklKmmJkj<7>CURBSPAQM9NJ8LG7IE6GB5E8<11>FXIGZJH`KIbLJd\
  MKfNLhM<12>wt1<12>DVF<2>CRECQDCPCCNBCMACLABJ9<3>BH8BG8AF7AE79D6<6>aLBeMC\
  gODjQF<13>xnGypGzrF<2>ztWyt`yufxukxvqwww<9>kNNjJJhFFgBBf88d44c00<7>M00
  }


mirage4            { ; 0:00:15.87  map from Sylvie Gallet
                     ; 6/10/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=fn*z+z function=log passes=t
  center-mag=-1.55431e-014/1.06581e-014/0.2175674
  params=-1/0.8875/0.575/0.425 float=y bailout=4 bailoutest=and
  inside=bof60 potential=255/400/0 invert=1/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis
  colors=0007VJ5TI2SH0QG<2>1KB1H92F83D7<4>A00<5>dU0jZ0oc0uh0zm0<6>zU0<6>H4\
  0<2>A4773A73C<6>39Q2AS3CT<13>E`hFbiGdi<3>JklKmmJkj<7>CURBSPAQM9NJ8LG7IE6\
  GB5E8<11>FXIGZJH`KIbLJdMKfNLhM<12>wt1<12>DVF<2>CRECQDCPCCNBCMACLABJ9<3>B\
  H8BG8AF7AE79D6<6>aLBeMCgODjQF<13>xnGypGzrF<2>ztWyt`yufxukxvqwww<9>kNNjJJ\
  hFFgBBf88d44c00<6>P00M00K00H00K21<8>hO6kQ6nT7qW8<2>zbA<9>zzc<4>fqZaoY_mX\
  <10>AWL
  }


mirage5            { ; 0:00:21.20 andy9.map
                     ; 6/10/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=fn*z+z function=exp passes=t
  center-mag=-1.42109e-014/1.06581e-014/0.05756741
  params=-1/0.8875/0.575/0.425 float=y bailout=4 bailoutest=and
  inside=bof60 potential=255/400/0 invert=1/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis
  colors=000500<12>`00c00d44<13>zzz<3>snNukDsh3qe0<2>kX0aU0<9>I00<8>000300\
  000003005<5>D0KF0MJ0P<3>Q0ZS0`U2cW4d<2>aGhcKieMkgOmiWokYpmbqoesqjusovupw\
  xvyzzzyvxwpuvosujqseoqbmpYkoWimOgkMeiKc<2>f8Yd4Wc2U`0S<4>R0IP0GN0GL0C<4>\
  B02900700500005<13>00c<15>zzz<15>EEcBBa88Z<2>00S<9>003000022<14>0cc<15>z\
  zz<15>0c0<14>030000200
  }

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From: "James R. McKenzie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD Par Problems
Date: 10 Jun 1998 18:26:44 -0700 (PDT)

>Can someone help me with some of Jim's FOTD pars?
>The following pars:
>
>>Octopus_Garden        Seahorse_scene
>ThisIsNotAJuliaSet    Oblate_Inferno
>Grand_Convergence    What__me_worry
>Oblate_Elephant
>
>all give a blank screen for me.  Laser Beam, which uses
>the same formula (Oblate) works though (and I am using the
>version of Oblate that Jim included with the pars.
>
>Has anyone else had such a problem?




I get the same problem too.  My screen gets a FUSCIA color and that's
it.

Any suggestions?
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) GIF file size question
Date: 10 Jun 1998 22:26:28 EDT



I was wondering if there's a place in Fractint that shows a saved images file
size in kilobytes?  It's not really that necessary, but it would be nice to
know.

Thanks,

Jim

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Subject: (fractint) Whoo-hoo!
Date: 11 Jun 1998 02:04:15 -0400

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from this list alone!  I hate to wonder how many I'll find when I get =
back from France in a month!  (I'm leaving Saturday <g>)  But her's =
something for all to ponder while I'm gone:

I've heard many different philosophical (that is, retorical) questions =
about God, dice, and the type of plastic these dice are made of, and =
well, to start another thread, not related, really, but not entirely =
unrelated, here is the question:  Imagine the universe is a sheet of =
paper, and the stars, galaxies, etc. are sketches on the paper.  If you =
erase the sketches, the universe is an empty void.  What happens if you =
burn the paper?  (i.e. the universe *is* void!)  I have actually scared =
myself by really really thinking about this... (more than any HP =
Lovecraft or Stephen King novel has [or could])  And I'm sure it's not =
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 1 par (Gallet-5-08frm)
Date: 11 Jun 1998 02:53:24 EDT



Here's 1 more image I thought was kind of nice to look at.  It's time I should
begin learning the fine art of map-making. Enjoy~

Jim

************************************************************************


X                  { ; 0:02:46.37 map by Sylvie Gallet
                     ; 6/10/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-5.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-5-08 function=tan/flip/recip passes=1
  center-mag=-2.05391e-015/1.77636e-015/0.78125/1/44.999
  params=0.5/0/1.085/0/1.25/0 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60
  decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=0009Qa<5>E`hFbiGdi<3>JklKmmJkj<10>9NJ8LG7JE6GB5E86G9<11>GZJH`KIbL\
  JdMKfNLhM<12>wt1<12>DVF<3>CQDCPCCNBCMACLABJ9<4>BG8AF7AE79D6DE6<5>aLBeMCg\
  ODjQF<13>xnGypGzrF<2>ztWyt`yufxukxvqwww<9>kNNjJJhFFgBBf88d44c00<6>P00M00\
  K00H00K21<8>hO6kQ6nT7qW8<2>zbA<9>zzc<4>fqZaoY_mX<14>0QG<2>1KB1H92F83D7<4\
  >A00<5>dU0jZ0oc0uh0zm0<6>zU0<6>H40<2>A4773A73C<6>39Q2AS3CT<6>8O`
  }


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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD Par Problems
Date: 11 Jun 1998 11:34:05 -0400 (EDT)

At 06:26 PM 6/10/98 -0700, you wrote:

>>Can someone help me with some of Jim's FOTD pars?
>>The following pars:
>>
>>>Octopus_Garden        Seahorse_scene
>>ThisIsNotAJuliaSet    Oblate_Inferno
>>Grand_Convergence    What__me_worry
>>Oblate_Elephant
>>
>>all give a blank screen for me.  Laser Beam, which uses
>>the same formula (Oblate) works though (and I am using the
>>version of Oblate that Jim included with the pars.
>>
>>Has anyone else had such a problem?
>
>I get the same problem too.  My screen gets a FUSCIA color and that's
>it.
>
>Any suggestions?


These par files run fine for me.  Look for an older version of the Oblate
formula in your formula files.  I suspect that Fractint is picking up an
older version.  The program checks your formula files before going to the
version included in the parameter file.

The fault is probably my own.  Posting several versions of the same formula
is one of my lesser vices.  I'll try to amend my wayward ways in the future.

To avoid the problem, remove the older version of the formula or change its
name.  Then put the newest version of the formula, which is the one in the
par file, into your formula file.  (Delete the frm: from the formula before
putting it into the formula file.)

If this doesn't solve the problem, let me know.  I'll see if I can work
something out.


Jim Muth
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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) Spirals Formula
Date: 11 Jun 1998 16:59:36 -0500 (CDT)

comment {
This formula applies a slightly different rendering to one
of my favorite spiral-producing formulas.

Paul Carlson
}

frm:MyEqn_Fnc_Jul {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
    ; p1       = Julia set coordinates
    ; real(p2) = a factor controlling the size of the elements
    ; imag(p2) = angle multiplier
    ; real(p3) = number of color ranges
    ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range
    ;
    z = iter = range_num = bailout = 0
    w = pixel
    c = p1
    size = real(p2)
    num_ranges = real(p3)
    colors_in_range = imag(p3)
    index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / size
    :
    w2 = w * w
    w = c * (1 - w2) / (1 + w2)
    ;
    a = imag(p2) * atan(imag(w) / real(w))
    a = a * a + c
    a = fn1(1 - a * a)
    dist = abs(|w| - |a|)
    IF (dist < size && iter > 1)
    bailout = 1
    z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1
    ENDIF
    range_num = range_num + 1
    IF (range_num == num_ranges)
    range_num = 0
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0 && |w| < 1.0e20
}

tentalce_spir    { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=myeqnfnc.frm
  formulaname=myeqn_fnc_jul
  function=exp passes=t
  center-mag=-2.04312/2.0803/42.32676
  params=0.15/1.26875/150/0.2/2/125
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000zz0<123>aG0GGz<123>00O000<2>000kkk
  }

gold_green_spir  { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=myeqnfnc.frm
  formulaname=myeqn_fnc_jul
  function=log passes=t
  center-mag=-2.00768/2.11634/7.168707
  params=0.15/1.26875/0.5/1/2/125
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000zz0<123>aG00W2<123>080000<3>000
  }

turbine_spir     { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=myeqnfnc.frm
  formulaname=myeqn_fnc_jul
  function=cos passes=1
  center-mag=-2.03533/2.08604/24.52578
  params=0.15/1.26875/4/2/2/125
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000HKS<60>MnuMovMnu<60>HKSC02<58>pEYqEYrFZsF_rFZqEY<59\
  >C02000<2>000kkk
  }

serpent_spir     { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=myeqnfnc.frm
  formulaname=myeqn_fnc_jul
  function=recip passes=t
  center-mag=-2.0437/2.07199/54.10843/1/39.999
  params=0.15/1.26875/0.2/1/2/125
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253
  outside=summ colors=000n_z<123>I0Kjzb<123>4E0000<3>000
  }

wizzled_spir     { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
                   ; Colormap by Wizzle
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=myeqnfnc.frm
  formulaname=myeqn_fnc_jul
  function=sqr passes=t
  center-mag=-2.03396/2.08556/20.99407
  params=0.15/1.26875/35/1/2/125
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=C0Czyq<123>UF0Kzz<125>1AAzzrzzrzzr
  }


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From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Spirals formula
Date: 11 Jun 1998 19:59:47 -0400

Paul,

Very fine formula and beautiful pars! Turbine_spir and gold_green_spir
are very high on my list of favorite pcarlson pars.

Gedeon

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Subject: (fractint) 10 pars (OK-28)
Date: 11 Jun 1998 21:45:00 EDT



Here's a few nice images with an alteration of my previous *all-purpose map*.

Enjoy~

Jim

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OK28002            { ; 0:02:31.54 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/11/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-28
  function=exp/tanh passes=1
  center-mag=0.614597/4.88498e-015/1.523527/1/90 params=0/0/0/0
  float=y maxiter=50 inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000kjf<12>LHHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<13>Zpu<1\
  3>OQBNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022<12>7bb8eeAce<13>f1f<\
  10>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<10>peW<11>TPHRNFPMENK\
  CMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONL
  }


OK28004            { ; 0:02:14.19 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/11/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-28
  function=exp/cotanh passes=1
  center-mag=1.07023/1.11022e-015/0.7731959/1/90 params=0.1/0/50/0
  float=y maxiter=50 inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000aii<3>Zpu<13>OQBNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022\
  <12>7bb8eeAce<13>f1f<10>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<\
  10>peW<11>TPHRNFPMENKCMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLkjf<12>\
  LHHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<8>ahf
  }


OK28007            { ; 0:11:19.43 nice! 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/11/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-28
  function=exp/cotanh passes=1
  center-mag=1.10893/2.72005e-015/3.168877/1/90 params=-5/0/100/0
  float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000`kl`lo_nrZpu<13>OQBNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX\
  022<12>7bb8eeAce<13>f1f<10>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI4\
  32<10>peW<11>TPHRNFPMENKCMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLkjf<\
  12>LHHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<9>aii
  }


OK28008zoom_of_7   { ; 0:06:32.55 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/11/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-28
  function=exp/cotanh passes=1
  center-mag=1.22862/2.72005e-015/3.168877/1/90 params=-7/0/100/0
  float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000ahf<3>_nrZpuZor<12>OQBNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>\
  MhX022<12>7bb8eeAce<13>f1f<10>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>p\
  MI432<10>peW<11>TPHRNFPMENKCMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLk\
  jf<12>LHHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<7>bfc
  }


OK28009zoom_of_7   { ; 0:08:54.97 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/11/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-28
  function=exp/cotanh passes=1
  center-mag=1.21282/2.83107e-015/8.167208/1/90 params=-7/0/100/0
  float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000ahf<3>_nrZpuZor<12>OQBNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>\
  MhX022<12>7bb8eeAce<13>f1f<10>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>p\
  MI432<10>peW<11>TPHRNFPMENKCMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLk\
  jf<12>LHHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<7>bfc
  }


OK28010            { ; 0:09:00.08 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/11/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-28
  function=exp/cotan passes=1
  center-mag=0.434756/6.21725e-015/0.5752416/1/90 params=-7/0/100/0
  float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000Zpu<13>OQBNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022<12>7b\
  b8eeAce<13>f1f<10>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<10>peW\
  <11>TPHRNFPMENKCMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLkjf<12>LHHJFF\
  GCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<12>_nr
  }


OK28012            { ; 0:04:48.97 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/11/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-28
  function=cosh/cotan passes=1
  center-mag=0.580375/5.77316e-015/0.3572945/1/90 params=-7/0/100/0
  float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000Zpu<13>OQBNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022<12>7b\
  b8eeAce<13>f1f<10>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<10>peW\
  <11>TPHRNFPMENKCMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLkjf<12>LHHJFF\
  GCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<12>_nr
  }


OK28013zoom_of_12  { ; 0:18:21.31 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/11/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-28
  function=exp/cotan passes=1
  center-mag=0.0375535/7.27196e-015/3.071822/1/90 params=-7/0/100/0
  float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000Zor<12>OQBNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022<12>7b\
  b8eeAce<13>f1f<10>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<10>peW\
  <11>TPHRNFPMENKCMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLkjf<12>LHHJFF\
  GCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<13>Zpu
  }


OK28014            { ; 0:07:53.40 nice again! 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/11/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-28
  function=exp/cotan passes=1
  center-mag=9.52401/3.90799e-014/0.0695155/1/90 params=-5/0/25/0
  float=y inside=bof60 invert=1/0.1/0 periodicity=0
  colors=000JTe<9>f1f<10>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<1\
  0>peW<11>TPHRNFPMENKCMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLkjf<12>L\
  HHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<13>Zpu<13>OQBNO7LM6<6>7955\
  743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022<12>7bb8eeAce<2>HWe
  }


OK28015            { ; 0:06:35.74 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/11/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-28
  function=exp/cotan passes=1
  center-mag=5.77819/5.68434e-014/0.07102273/1/90 params=3/0/50/0
  float=y inside=bof60 invert=1/0.1/0 periodicity=0
  colors=000ccY<7>Zpu<13>OQBNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022\
  <12>7bb8eeAce<13>f1f<10>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<\
  10>peW<11>TPHRNFPMENKCMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLkjf<12>\
  LHHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<4>cbV
  }


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Subject: (fractint) Administrator on vacation
Date: 11 Jun 1998 22:29:59 -0600

I'll be away until June 23, and will not be able to do any list administration
duties. This shouldn't affect the list significantly - mostly I help people
subscribe and unsubscribe, and unsubscribe people whose email addresses
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Traynor)
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD Par Problems
Date: 12 Jun 1998 00:14:34 -0400 (EDT)

I wrote:
>
>>>Can someone help me with some of Jim's FOTD pars?
>>>The following pars:
>>>
>>>>Octopus_Garden        Seahorse_scene
>>>ThisIsNotAJuliaSet    Oblate_Inferno
>>>Grand_Convergence    What__me_worry
>>>Oblate_Elephant
>>>
>>>all give a blank screen for me.  Laser Beam, which uses
>>>the same formula (Oblate) works though (and I am using the
>>>version of Oblate that Jim included with the pars.

I finally got these to work, but it is odd.  I had the new version of the
formula in the orgform _o.frm file and the old one in _o_dup.frm (I hate
to actually throw anything out).  The pars did not work.  when I removed
_o_dup.frm from the frm directory, the pars worked.  I had thought that
fractint would pick up the formulas from the _o.frm file first, but is this
so?  My experience here would seem to say no.  Do you end up taking pot
luck as to which version of a formula (or which formula when there are two
with the same name) or is there some system to it?

--
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From: "Nhan Nguyen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal movies
Date: 12 Jun 1998 00:25:34

Hello Fractineers!

Has anyone ever made fractal movies using the Tiera-Zon fractal program by
Stephen Ferguson? (AVI format) I have, and it kicks! The only thing it's
missing is the ability to incorporate music to it. But music would greatly
increase the size of each movie, which is already big. Making a movie to
zoom from 1 to over a trillion times magnifications takes up quite a bit of
space. If anyone has, I'd like to trade movies and see what others are
doing.

thanx
-Lavondyss





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From: slane <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) file:///c|/fractint/parfiles/lane/llsg1-6.par
Date: 12 Jun 1998 00:40:30 -0500

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Hello. My name is Lee Lane. I am a newcomer in your midst.
A musician by trade, my passions range from the violin and viola
to mathematics and 3-D photography to ice skating and weight lifting.
But fractals are my obsession.

I can't believe how consuming this has become. Sometimes I wish
it would go away so I could get back to my life. I am attracted
to the fractals for their visual delights and for their being
the graphic realization of the beauty of math. Moreover,
the performer in me approaches them as though they were music:
an medium for self expession and communication.

I was introduced to this discussion list by Sylvie Gallet,
with whom I have had several very pleasant interchanges.
It is exciting, if a little daunting, to see on my screen now
the names of people whose art I have admired on the internet.
For me, the discusion list will be a forum for learning
and for exchanging views, mostly of a fractal nature, of course.

As an initiation, I am sending a selection of images I made
from Gallet's formula files 1 through 6.

***********************************************************************

sg-Newton-Reel-1   { ; Golden Plumes                 0:03:28
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet.frm
  formulaname=newton_reel_1 center-mag=-0.148858/-1.26975/1.767777
  float=y
  colors=000A00<2>000<15>yX0<15>000<15>tt0<12>AB0670340000FA4<12>1v10z00w0\
  <14>000<15>00z<14>000<5>L0CP0ET0GX0I_0J<6>y0X<15>000204<14>o0w<7>Q0UN0RK\
  0NG0JD0F90C608204000<15>yzz<15>000K00<13>y00<2>o00k00g00c00`00<5>E00
  }

sg2-0601           { ; African Witch Doctor          0:02:51
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet.frm
  formulaname=gallet-2-06 passes=1 center-mag=1.03001/1.53316/4.366351
  params=0.2/5 outside=atan potential=255/500/200/16bit
  colors=000s6R<6>z6d<2>ufFsr6sq6<36>t11t01s12<50>C64C64D75<12>EI6EJ6DJ7<3\
  7>Bo9ApABpA<25>ciAdhAehAfgAggAif9<2>meAodApcBrbBsbBuaCv`C<4>gJIeGJdHI<34\
  >ZJ8ZJ8YK9<8>QPI000OQK
  }

sg2-0702           { ; Escher's Garden               0:03:13
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet.frm
  formulaname=gallet-2-07 center-mag=1.48925/-0.433332/8.686885/1/25
  params=0.2/3 float=y outside=real
  colors=0000t0<2>0z0<30>020000000<14>000110330<29>zz0<30>220000000<29>000\
  000200<29>zKU<30>211000000<14>000010030<25>0r0
  }

sg2-1101           { ; Miro's Whimsy                 0:00:45
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet.frm
  formulaname=gallet-2-11 function=cosxx
  center-mag=-1.53803/0.560643/3.908693 params=0.2/3 float=y
  outside=atan
  colors=000z5n<43>zIKzJKzJJzJJzKK<29>z``zaazaayaa<41>211000011<44>0uu0ww0\
  xx0zz0zz<61>y1zz0zz0zz0y<14>z5o
  }

sg5-1101           { ; Picasso's Moon Goose          0:00:09
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-5.frm
  formulaname=gallet-5-11 function=sqr/cotan
  center-mag=1.77636e-015/-1.77636e-015/0.3066667 params=6/0/200/0
  float=y outside=real
  colors=000w00<29>F00ZK0<41>vnAvnAwoAwoAxpA<3>vn9um9sl9<40>QK00000F0<44>F\
  x0Gz0Gy0<31>0F0F00<45>x00z00y00
  }

sg3-0102           { ; Infrastructure                0:00:31
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-3.frm
  formulaname=gallet-3-01 passes=t
  center-mag=-0.219635/1.0815e-005/1.061181/1/-90
  params=0.333333333/0/21/0 float=y fillcolor=2 inside=period
  colors=000kD0000uQ0I0K0ww0PP0nnxv0xU0TAawt00kKP7Wi0Sb0Mzz0e0O0EEv8811Qt7\
  7EEtkY0sl00dHYFj88e77dma033U`Ionb0hS0e60f440``0YE0sskE00ee0L8fP0P6VyV0cK\
  00zRbKsu0bY22K2N0000K80WW0lL22T000e4400077b0sO0000C4l_0zy0N5SZGlx0d0bboI\
  000OiB00ggn0XDDr000yw0l550wQl0Upg00ppaG0XFi0ZFCCpV22jX0Q8Y0gJ0KKr7799iFF\
  v`0J0rrU0DT11y88hA0EEu0iK66ay0e_HmsN0BBm0`GM4Q000O08z0f0rOvR0FFxhT0DDqbI\
  0a33z8844Yuq00uur0_eN0Z33GGydL0X22J1MfOz0I7lF0g90tP0Q0AwS055`0GGSA`0iiAA\
  jU2222R0llcLuvr0O00AAl88fzW0f70VDfd500eId0NZ0ICCn0II0SSj0T0yRX0Grj0wT0O5\
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  }

sg4-0302           { ; Gaseous Glow                  0:02:12
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-4.frm
  formulaname=gallet-4-03 function=cosxx/sqr
  center-mag=-1.06871/-1.00697/1.751195 params=0/0/0/0 float=y
  inside=bof60 outside=atan logmap=yes
  colors=000SRA<19>68F57G46G35H24H03I<2>01C00A10A<5>63D73D94E<6>G7II8JH8J<\
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  Q<5>ehkiknknrjkmkkkfgg<11>OI5<15>xn_<15>OI5<15>nru<14>444<30>YW7ZX8YX8<4\
  >TS9
  }

sg4-0501           { ; Old Board Stud                0:00:16
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-4.frm
  formulaname=gallet-4-05 function=log/cotan
  center-mag=1.02293/3.10433/0.1615907/1/90
  params=2.71828182845905/1/1/0 float=y outside=imag
  colors=000000zb0<12>740310000`QV<12>423111000S8`<12>304101000OUY<8>8BE79\
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  211000i0w<12>507203000CWn<5>6HS5FP4DL3BH28E16A146013000iXc<14>000_mj<13>\
  122
  }

sg4-0602           { ; Intergallactic Dust           0:04:51
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-4.frm
  formulaname=gallet-4-06 function=sin/sqr
  center-mag=0.0164615/-0.0582344/0.8232582/1/-14.999
  params=0.1893/0/2/0.2 float=y maxiter=567 outside=mult
  colors=000<3>000011033<29>0zz<30>022000000<29>000000220<30>zz0<30>220000\
  000<14>000101303<29>z0z<30>202000000<9>000
  }

sg4-1001           { ; Jets of Fire                  0:00:34
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-4.frm
  formulaname=gallet-4-10 center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=0.2/0/0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=5000 outside=atan
  colors=BCfBDf<3>C5dD2cD2c<18>V0_V0_W0_W0_X0_<3>_0`<15>303000000<86>v00w0\
  0z99<2>yF9xG9xI9xJ8xL8<7>xX4xY4x_4xa4<10>yt2yv1yx1zz0zz0zy0zx0zx0<15>bq2\
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  Lh<2>BFg
  }

sg5-0601           { ; Sidewinders                   0:00:06
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-5.frm
  formulaname=gallet-5-06 function=sinh/cotan center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=2/3.33333333333/0/0 float=y outside=mult logmap=yes
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  }

sg5-0701           { ; Loud Speaker                  0:00:06
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-5.frm
  formulaname=gallet-5-07 function=sin/cabs
  center-mag=-0.470102/0.223889/0.7902177 params=6/0.33333333333/34/0
  float=y outside=real logmap=yes
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sg6-0101           { ; Faerie's Throne               0:05:38
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-6-01 function=sin/sqr/sinh passes=1
  center-mag=-0.896081/-0.895472/1.418193/1.5791/45
  params=2/2.333333/0.1/0/0/0 outside=atan potential=255/500/200/16bit
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sg6-0201           { ; Construction Project          0:00:45
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-02 function=ceil/exp passes=t
  center-mag=-0.421443/-0.429091/9.682557/1.3092
  params=3.14159265358979/0/0/2.71828182845905/0/0 float=y
  fillcolor=45 outside=atan
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sg6-0301           { ; Sunrise on the Marshes        0:00:44
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=sin/sqr/sinh
  center-mag=1.49101/0.873771/2.59149/1.3386
  params=0.3333333/0/0/0/3/0 float=y outside=atan
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sg6-0401           { ; Converging Sines of Chaos     0:02:49
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-04 function=sin/cos/cosh
  center-mag=0.255433/0.877713/0.5590433 params=2/0/0/0/0/4 float=y
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  colors=000j7h<5>oEXpFVoFV<20>EDD<12>d39a6C<22>apw`kr<20>85B62866C<9>EitM\
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sg6-0501           { ; Radiation Belts               0:01:00
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-05 function=sin/cos/cosh
  center-mag=-0.315266/0.520291/0.01566849 params=12/2/0/0.2/0/0
  float=y decomp=128
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  }

sg6-0601           { ; A Furtive Glance              0:00:13
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-6-06 function=sin/cos
  center-mag=-2.2229/-2.25855/0.3487316/1/45
  params=0.6666666666/0/3/0/0.6/0 float=y decomp=128
  colors=000MFJ<13>534423312111100000S8`<20>82B71A619517416315204203101001\
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sg6-0702           { ; Of Another World              0:02:03
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-07 function=sin/log
  center-mag=-0.213856/-1.07e-006/0.09763861/1.7411/-90
  params=0.1/0/19/0/0.2/8 maxiter=256 outside=atan
  colors=000x``<40>211000011<42>0rr0tt0uu0ww0xx0zz<62>y1zz0zz0zz0y<57>zHLz\
  ILzIKzJKzJJ<31>z``zaazaayaa
  }

sg6-0701           { ; Modern Board Room             0:01:33
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-07 function=sin/log
  center-mag=0.271797/-2.4795e-005/0.0997119/1.7735/-90
  params=0.1/0/7/0/0.2/0 maxiter=256 outside=atan
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  y<57>zHLzILzIKzJKzJJ<29>z__
  }

sg6-0802           { ; Pink Puss                     0:00:41
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sin/sqr/sinh
  center-mag=2.66454e-015/0.548547/0.2157975/1.2195
  params=176/0/1/0/1/0 float=y outside=atan
  colors=000sYY<37>211000011<42>0rr0tt0uu0ww0xx0zz<62>y1zz0zz0zz0y<57>zHLz\
  ILzIKzJKzJJ<31>z``zaazaayaa<2>uZZ
  }

sg6-0801           { ; Corsage                       0:00:29
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=log/sqr/sinh
  center-mag=-0.251438/-0.25672/0.5042395/0.9642/-126.919/-11.254
  params=3/2/1/0/1/0 float=y outside=atan
  colors=0Q0v__<39>211000011<40>0oo0qq0rr0tt0uu<2>0zz<62>y1zz0zz0zz0y<55>z\
  GMzHMzHLzILzIKzJKzJJ<31>z``zaazaayaax``
  }

sg6-0901           { ; Lilac Time                    0:07:45
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-09
  center-mag=-0.524307/0.314436/4.83913/1.2007/147.497
  params=0.33333333/0/23/0/0/0 float=y inside=bof60
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  SWWW___ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0z0
  }

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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) file:///c|/fractint/parfiles/lane/llsg1-6.par
Date: 12 Jun 1998 01:33:06 -0500 (CDT)

Hi Lee,

Welcome to the list.  Your images are beautiful!  I especially liked
Modern Boardroom and Lilac Time.  I'm looking forward to seeing
many more.

Paul Carlson


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From: Wayne Kiely <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Newbie with 2 suggestions
Date: 12 Jun 1998 01:23:41 -0600

Greetings all!

I have been lurking for a while, and since joining the group have been
catching up on the monthly collections (thanks Les - great job) since
October 97.  I'm now up to April 98.  This has been no small task for an old
486!

Two suggestions arise from this process that perhaps could be considered in
future Fractint releases:

1/ It would be nice when running the long batch files created by PARTOBAT and
   using the 'Disk Video' mode if the file SAVENAME would show on the screen so
   that you could see where you were up to without having to TAB into the next
   screen.

2/ Whilst running the long batch files described above, I would find it useful
   if a 'MaximumCalcTime' could be set from within SSTOOLS.INI.  If I were to
   set this to, say, 1 hour then Fractint would cease generating the particular
   file it was on after an hour and then move on.  Then at least I would get to
   see the start of 24 great new images per day and probably many more.  I guess
   an appropriate message would have to be output to STOPMSG.TXT, but surely
   this would not be hard to arrange.  Sorry, but basically I'm impatient and
   don't want my machine to be 'hung up' on an image that's going to take 36
   hours to complete when I could be viewing 50 or more of the other great
   images that I could have generated instead.

Any thoughts on the above?  Hopefully I have not spammed you all about a
feature that is already available.

To all of the contributors to this list, and of course the programmers that
made this program available, many thanks.  I hope to be in a position to
contribute in the near future (when I've finished generating April & May's
1000+ images!).

Regards from downunder,

Wayne


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From: JoWeber <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) download compuserve's GraphicsDev Artists Pars
Date: 12 Jun 1998 05:11:11 -0400

Hi,
it's a great pleasure for me to tell you that some artists from the
Compuserve's Graphics  Developers Forum gave me their permission to prese=
nt
their work onto my website so that you can download these pars. The artis=
ts
are =

Robert Carr - Marie Droszdis - Karl Geigl - Lee Skinner - Brian Jones - =

Sylvie Gallet (updated with her newest work from 10. June ) - and Les
St.Clair.
Some of the artists have their own page from which you can download these=

files too. =

My intention is to make a site for the gaphics developers artists. Most o=
f
them who I have contacted haven't give me an answer, but I will try it
again.
Cheers and feed your machines with this fantastic stuff --Jo--

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JoWeber
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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject:  Re: (fractint) FOTD Par Problems
Date: 12 Jun 1998 08:07:19 -0600

Sender: George Martin <[e-mail]>
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(Note to George - this message bounced because majordomo didn't recognize
[e-mail] as a member. I'll work with you on this when I
get back. Meanwhile I posted this manually. TW)

Mike,

>
I had thought that fractint would pick up the formulas from the _o.frm fi=
le
first, but is this so?
<

No. Fractint looks through formulas in the same order as you would see
using the dir command in DOS without any ordering switch. Either _o.frm o=
r
_o_dup.frm could be looked at first at any particular time. This is one o=
f
the problems of duplicate named formulas.

Version 20 of Fractint will supply a fix of sorts. A new command line
option, which you will be able to include in sstools.ini, will provide fo=
r
the identification of a directory dedicated to orgform files. After the
usual search of the default formula directory, the program will look for =
a
formula in the orgform file directory. Only one file will be looked at,
based on the name of the formula (in your example, *only* _o.frm will be
searched for the formula), providing certaintly as to which formula will =
be
selected. The search is also much faster, since all the other orgform
files, which cannot contain the formula being sought, will be ignored.

George Martin



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) Another invitation
Date: 12 Jun 1998 10:54:39 -0400

You are again invited to visit my web site at
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/1450/ I announced a rearrangement of
the site about a month ago and I got some good suggestions on how it might
be improved. Since the site is a hobby and time just seems to evaporate
after work, it's taken about a month to get things close to where I want
them.

In the meantime, I've continued to post fractals by the door to my office
at work, so there were twenty more pictures to hang in the gallery. Without
all the distractions of the gallery redesign, I should be more prompt with
posting each week's door-fractals.

Anyway, the pictures should be easier to navigate (at least in the postings
section) so I invite you all back for a look.

Bill Decker



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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD Par Problems
Date: 12 Jun 1998 17:54:47 +0100

>I finally got these to work, but it is odd.  I had the new version of the
>formula in the orgform _o.frm file and the old one in _o_dup.frm (I hate
>to actually throw anything out).  The pars did not work.  when I removed
>_o_dup.frm from the frm directory, the pars worked.  I had thought that
>fractint would pick up the formulas from the _o.frm file first, but is this
>so?  My experience here would seem to say no.  Do you end up taking pot
>luck as to which version of a formula (or which formula when there are two
>with the same name) or is there some system to it?


It's just a guess, as i never run fractint under win95. But orgform_o.frm is
a 9.3 filename, so maybe fractint had some problems with the
non-8.3-ishness.

Christian




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From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) file:///c|/fractint/parfiles/lane/llsg1-6.par
Date: 12 Jun 1998 13:07:28 -0400

Hi Lee,

>> Hello. My name is Lee Lane. I am a newcomer in your midst. =


  Welcome aboard!

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Newbie with 2 suggestions
Date: 12 Jun 1998 13:07:27 -0400

Hi Wayne,

>> I hope to be in a position to contribute in the near future

  Welcome aboard!  I'm looking forward to seeing your contribution!

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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From: jon camp <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) dmj-Magnet-Cir-Ang (three PARS)
Date: 12 Jun 1998 13:26:07 -0700 (PDT)



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From: jon camp <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) dmj-Magnet-Cir-Ang (3 PARS) (again)
Date: 12 Jun 1998 13:39:58 -0700 (PDT)

Screwed that first post up :)

Greetings!
I really liked some of DMJ's formula's (ie. dmj-Mand-Cir-Ang) so I was
curious as to how that method would work with the magnet1 fractal. I
am not sure if just substitutuing the magnet1 formula in place of the
mandelbrot is the correct way to do implement it. Does anybody see any
other changes neccesary? Anyway, what ever I did, here are some cool
looking images that came out of it. Enojy!

| jon camp                                                   |
| valparaiso univerisity <><                                 |
| chaotic n-space network                                    |
| http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/fractals_gate.html |

since some of these are kinda slow:
http://wwwstage.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/ftp_cnspace/jcamp14.gif
http://wwwstage.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/ftp_cnspace/jcamp15.gif
http://wwwstage.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/ftp_cnspace/jcamp16.gif

jcamp14            { ; jon camp, 1998
                     ; chaotic n-space network
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm
  formulaname=dmj-Magnet-Cir-Ang passes=1
  center-mag=-0.28554579419264710/+0.24541773694538080/25491.2
  params=0.1/10/-60/0.1/-1/1 float=y maxiter=8128 inside=bof60
  outside=summ

colors=000DDD<11>111000000000<61>mmUmmUllU<58>113002000<63>zzzzzzyyy<47>\
  EEE
  }

jcamp15            { ; jon camp, 1998
                     ; chaotic n-space network
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm
  formulaname=dmj-Magnet-Cir-Ang
  center-mag=-0.28759685452280840/+0.24642805608039240/448.6451
  params=0.1/10/-60/0.1/-1/1 float=y maxiter=4096 inside=bof60
  outside=summ

colors=000DDD<11>111000000000<61>mmUmmUllU<58>113002000<63>zzzzzzyyy<47>\
  EEE
  }

jcamp16            { ; jon camp, 1998
                     ; chaotic n-space network
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=email2.frm
  formulaname=dmj-magnet-cir-ang passes=1
  center-mag=-0.35080409660671320/+0.92961993029119080/438.978
  params=10/10/-60/100/-1/1 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=bof60
  outside=summ

colors=000324<2>B87EA8IC9<3>UKDWMEZOF`QGcSH<3>lZLn`MobN<2>thQvjRwlSxnT<4\

>zxYzzZxxY<27>321<2>B84EA5IC6<3>UKAWMBZOC`QDcSE<3>lZIn`JobK<2>thNvjOwlPx\

nQ<4>zxVzzWyyV<29>221000001<3>B85EA6IC7<3>UKBWMCZOD`QEcSF<3>lZJn`KobL<2>\

thOvjPwlQxnRxpSyrT<2>zxW<30>541320001002<3>B86EA7IC8<3>UKCWMDZOE`QFcSG<3\
  >lZKn`LobM<2>thPvjQwlRxnS<2>ztVzvWxtV<29>861640321002003
  }

frm:dmj-Magnet-Cir-Ang {
     ; modified by jon camp
     ; outside = decomp: angle of
     ; closest z[n] to ring at p1
     ; This is the angle relative to p1.

 IF (imag(p2) == 0)  ; Invalid value for aspect ratio.
   p2 = (0,1) + real(p2)  ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 IF (real(p3) == 0)  ; Invalid value for color scale.
   p3 = 75 + flip(imag(p3)) ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 IF (imag(p3) == 0)  ; Invalid value for ring radius.
   p3 = (0,1) + real(p3)  ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 closest = 1e+38   ; Closest approach so far.
 point = 0   ; Point of that closest approach.
 done = 2   ; Iteration counter.
 r = (0,1) ^ (real(p2)/90) ; Compute rotation vector.

 z = 0, c = pixel:  ; Magnet initialization.
 z = ((sqr(z) + (c-1))/(2*z + (c-2)))^2   ; Magnet calculation.

 done = done + 1   ; Done one more iteration.
 z2 = (z-p1) * r   ; Offset to p1 and rotate.
 z2 = real(z2) + flip(imag(z2) * imag(p2)) ; Distort aspect.
 d = abs(cabs(z2) - imag(p3)) ; Compute ring distance.
 IF (d < closest)  ; Closer than previous value.
   point = z   ; Save that point.
   closest = d   ; Save the closest approach.
 ENDIF
 IF (|z| > 100)   ; Point exceeds bailout.
   z = point - p1  ; Return closest point.
   done = -1   ; Set flag to force an exit.
 ENDIF

 done >= 0   ; Continue if the flag is clear.
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Date: 13 Jun 1998 03:50:13 EDT

People             { ; 0:04:31.83 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/13/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1820 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=ok-18
  function=cotan/ident passes=1
  center-mag=1.15463e-014/2.75335e-014/0.1743835/1/90 params=1/0
  float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000GB3HA0<14>ng_<12>IKoFIqEGp<4>98j<13>ujW<2>pfUneTlcSjaR<8>SOIPM\
  HPNI<12>TccUeeTdc<12>9IE7GB7F88D5<4>AG7132<11>FbYHe`Hd`<12>CPPBNOAMP<6>0\
  FW<13>UhWXkVXlV<14>cuadvbcta<12>JKFHHDHJF<12>TngUqjUqk<4>SplSplSok<12>_T\
  T`RR`RS`ST<14>2Pe<12>FC6
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Subject: (fractint) 11 pars (Gallet-6-03's)
Date: 14 Jun 1998 03:46:19 EDT



  Here's a few more Gallet-6-03 frm images.....Enjoy!~

....also....my apologies go out to everyone on the list....for not including
any comments with my last par, I forgot to type it in after pasting the par.

Jim
*******************************************

image07            { ; 0:00:36.75 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/13/98  JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=tan/recip/ident passes=1
  center-mag=0.14072/0.14072/0.3658537/1/45
  params=0.203/0/2.36/0/0.34/0 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60
  periodicity=0
  colors=000eQ0<8>400A00<2>000<15>0pp<12>0BB077044000222<14>hhh<15>000<27>\
  007017037<13>4S4<9>2G21E11D11B11A1181171<2>000313717A20<12>cAP<10>H43E30\
  A2A<2>000<15>hh0<15>000<3>00D00H22I<10>PP`<9>33H00E00A<2>000<2>A00<2>L80\
  OA0RD0UG0YJ0<5>rZ0nW0jT0
  }


image12            { ; 0:02:17.37 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/13/98  JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=tan/recip/flip passes=1
  center-mag=0.00648961/0.00648961/0.6132261/1/-135
  params=0.203/0/2.36/0/0.34/0 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60
  periodicity=0
  colors=000haT<20>LE5JC3KC5<13>rgc<13>ZRKXPIXPJ<13>eUh<21>tnN<2>wbXsZV<6>\
  pf_og`meZ<13>H37<13>`fLbiNdiO<10>xgT<10>Ck_<11>bGnVgk<4>CqdXrTZrPXqT<27>\
  6OD<14>uzz<4>irr<13>xskztjysi<14>ibU
  }

image16zoom_of15   { ; 0:01:44.69 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/13/98  JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=tan/recip/acosh passes=1
  center-mag=0.0612638/0.0612638/0.3568166/1/-135
  params=0.203/0/2.36/0/0.34/0 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60
  decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=000055<13>0cc<15>zzz<15>0c0<14>030000200<13>`00c00d44<13>zzz<3>sn\
  NukDsh3qe0<2>kX0aU0<9>I00<8>000300000003005<5>D0KF0MJ0P<3>Q0ZS0`U2cW4d<2\
  >aGhcKieMkgOmiWokYpmbqoesqjusovupwxvyzzzyvxwpuvosujqseoqbmpYkoWimOgkMeiK\
  c<2>f8Yd4Wc2U`0S<4>R0IP0GN0GL0C<4>B02900700500005<13>00c<15>zzz<15>EEcBB\
  a88Z<2>00S<9>003000022
  }

image18            { ; less than 4 min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/13/98 JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=tan/recip/sqrt passes=1
  center-mag=0.0331586/0.0331586/0.7068427/1/-135
  params=0.157/0/2.334/0/0.54/0 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60
  periodicity=0
  colors=P0P5in<15>F4DG1AE2B<5>1AL<10>a6s<9>VFQ<5>_GTbZk<8>NVXVQY<3>t1Q<10\
  >YXMgSMrNM<15>l6K<14>`d4_g2Yg5<9>4ff<9>_7k<2>_HkE9J65A<18>sRc<3>i9bf4ae4\
  a<13>I0_e83<9>0gG<6>9cFBbECbF<17>fLdha_jsUt4c<4>Sdf<26>3tx2uy2sw<2>4kp
  }

image19            { ; 0:01:22.34 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/13/98  JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=flip/recip/ident passes=1
  center-mag=-0.0171531/-0.0171531/0.6620428/1/-135
  params=0.203/0/2.36/0/0.34/0 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60
  periodicity=0
  colors=000080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<10>peW<11>TPHRNFPMENKCM\
  I9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLkjf<12>LHHJFFGCCEA9B7694361030\
  0000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<13>Zpu<13>OQBNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8\
  ee<3>MhX022<12>7bb8eeAce<13>f1f<10>000030050
  }

image20            { ; 0:00:35.27 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/13/98  JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-6.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=conj/recip/ident passes=1
  center-mag=-0.00149372/-0.00149372/0.4468089/1/-135
  params=0.203/0/2.36/0/0.34/0 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60
  periodicity=0
  colors=000_XV<6>LHHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<13>Zpu<13\
  >OQBNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022<12>7bb8eeAce<13>f1f<1\
  0>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<10>peW<11>TPHRNFPMENKC\
  MI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLkjf<4>a_X
  }

image22            { ; less than 2 min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/13/98 JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=les_pars.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=cotan/recip/cosxx passes=1
  center-mag=-0.0103916/-0.0103916/0.5545744/1/-135
  params=0.157/0/2.334/0/0.54/0 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60
  periodicity=0
  colors=000pMI432<10>peW<2>jaUh`TeZScXR<9>HHH<13>bW2dY0f`0<11>zz0<8>nnPON\
  Lkjf<12>LHHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<13>Zpu<13>OQBNO7L\
  M6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022<12>7bb8eeAce<13>f1f<10>000030\
  050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<2>pJF
  }

image28            { ; less than 3 min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/13/98 JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=les_pars.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=cotan/tan/log passes=1
  center-mag=0.152935/0.152935/0.5546586/1/-135
  params=0.157/0/2.334/0/0.54/0 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60
  periodicity=0
  colors=000a_X<7>LHHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<13>Zpu<13\
  >OQBNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022<12>7bb8eeAce<13>f1f<1\
  0>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<10>peW<11>TPHRNFPMENKC\
  MI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLkjf<3>caZ
  }

image32            { ; less than 3 min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/13/98 JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=les_pars.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=cos/exp/flip passes=1
  center-mag=0.0208954/0.0208954/0.3319668/1/-135
  params=0.157/0/2.334/0/0.54/0 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60
  periodicity=0
  colors=0000BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022<12>7bb8eeAce<13>f1f<10>000030050080<13>\
  bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<10>peW<11>TPHRNFPMENKCMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0\
  YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLkjf<12>LHHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dRE\
  fUDfVG<13>Zpu<13>OQBNO7LM6<6>795574354033077
  }

image33            { ; less than 2 min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/13/98 JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=les_pars.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=sqrt/cotanh/flip passes=1
  center-mag=0.0208954/0.0208954/0.3319668/1/-135
  params=0.157/0/2.334/0/0.54/0 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60
  periodicity=0
  colors=000nnPONLkjf<12>LHHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<13\
  >Zpu<13>OQBNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022<12>7bb8eeAce<1\
  3>f1f<10>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<10>peW<11>TPHRN\
  FPMENKCMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<7>ooM
  }

image36            { ; less than 2 min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/13/98 JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=les_pars.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-6-03 function=sqr/flip/cosxx passes=1
  center-mag=0.107237/0.107237/0.8587718/1/-135
  params=0.157/0/2.334/0/0.54/0 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60
  periodicity=0
  colors=000155<11>7bb8eeAce<13>f1f<10>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>\
  pC7<3>pMI432<10>peW<11>TPHRNFPMENKCMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>\
  nnPONLkjf<12>LHHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<13>Zpu<13>OQ\
  BNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022
  }


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From: Andrej Lajovic <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) test message ignore this
Date: 13 Jun 1998 10:54:46 +0000

testing e-mail

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From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) GraphicsDev artists pars
Date: 12 Jun 1998 19:22:47 -0700


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Jo wrote:

> it's a great pleasure for me to tell you that some artists from the
> Compuserve's Graphics  Developers Forum gave me their permission to present
> their work onto my website so that you can download these pars.
>
Thanks Jo!  I hope more give permission- hope
they're not in fractal retirement.

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Jo wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
<PRE>it's a great pleasure for me to tell you that some artists from the
Compuserve's Graphics  Developers Forum gave me their permission to present
their work onto my website so that you can download these pars.</PRE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>


<P>Thanks Jo!  I hope more give permission- hope
<BR>they're not in fractal retirement.</HTML>

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) dmj-Magnet-Cir-Ang (3 PARS) (again)
Date: 12 Jun 1998 17:49:05 -0400

Jon,

On my web site I explain a bit about how the formulas work, and how to
modify them:

    http://www.fractalus.com/misc/dmj-pub.htm

The changes you have made are sufficient.  BTW, the reason I use only four
letters for the fractal type--Mand and Nova instead of Mandelbrot and
NovaM--is so that I could include an inside variant (ending in -I) and
still keep the name under 18 letters.

...just looked at the pictures.  Veeerry nice.  I especially like #16.

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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Newbie with 2
Date: 13 Jun 1998 00:44:55 -0400

Wayne,

>>2/ Whilst running the long batch files described above, I would find it=

useful if a 'MaximumCalcTime' could be set from within SSTOOLS.INI.  If I=

were to set this to, say, 1 hour then Fractint would cease generating the=

particular file it was on after an hour and then move on. <<

You can do this by using the command "savetime=3D-60".   The image will b=
e
saved after 60 minutes (it will be resumable) and fractint will exit.

Lee Skinner

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From: chris landrum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) test message ignore this
Date: 14 Jun 1998 06:39:43 -0700

it works :)

Andrej Lajovic wrote:
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> testing e-mail
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From: "Faye Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Why & a wish
Date: 14 Jun 1998 07:25:07 -0700

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Wow! I reread my message this morning and I sounded illiterate.
My apologies to all.  I guess I was more tired than I thought when
I sent it.

Faye

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From: JoWeber <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) partobat problems
Date: 14 Jun 1998 16:58:13 -0400

Hi,
I get the following mess from the FML:
>I'm recieving "run time error 200 "   =

>in partobat { the new version of it } on
>a pentium2\266.
Here is the answer from Michael:
>and he's really using the latest (presumably corrected) version? hmmm ..=
=2E
don't >know what to do here. Other people seem to be able to run it witho=
ut
problems! Ask >him (or send me his email) if it is the runtime 200 that
pops up immediately after >start, or something else.
I'm waiting for your response.
Cheers --Jo--


-Michael

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) partobat problems
Date: 14 Jun 1998 17:44:36 EDT

In a message dated 98-06-14 17:04:57 EDT, you write:

<<  Ask >him (or send me his email) if it is the runtime 200 that
 pops up immediately after >start, or something else. >>

Hi Joe,
     Yes it is runtime error 200... it appears immediately after attempting to
run.
<It is the latest version? > Hummm....Version 3.4   1997...???
Maybe thats it?   What is the newest version and where can I find it?

Cheers
Steve


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From: JoWeber <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) partobat problems
Date: 14 Jun 1998 19:45:58 -0400

Hi Steve,

>Yes it is runtime error 200... it appears immediately after attempting t=
o
>run.
>Maybe thats it?   What is the newest version and where can I find it?
The latest release is ver.3.5 and you can d/l it from my website
Download-Area.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JoWeber
Make sure that you load the version for the very fast machines, because
Michael
updated his Borland Pascal. The error must disappear.
Good luck --Jo--

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From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) picture tubes
Date: 14 Jun 1998 20:15:20 -0400

I created some fractal picture tubes for use with Paint Shop Pro 5 and
posted them on my web page for download. If interested, please visit my
page and check them out.

Gedeon

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint)partobat3.5 At Joe's great page
Date: 15 Jun 1998 05:05:53 EDT

Thanks Joe,
   Not only for the help in finding the right version of partobat but for the
impressive
page of fractals and information that you share with the list and the web.
Cheers
Steve

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 8 pars (various)
Date: 15 Jun 1998 19:56:35 EDT



Here's a few more images with my new color map.  Enjoy~

Jim

*****************************************************************

nu_barn02          { ; less than 2 min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/14/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=barnsleym1 passes=1
  center-mag=-0.01941418461613157/+0.13420441994850630/471.7615/1/62.499
  params=0.113399/-0.4 float=y maxiter=75 bailoutest=and inside=bof60
  outside=real invert=0.1/-0.0859/0.1105 decomp=256 periodicity=0
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                     ; 6/14/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=lambda(fn||fn) function=abs/cosh passes=1
  center-mag=-0.00000000000004419/+0.00000000000002953/0.4235912
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                     ; 6/14/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=lambda(fn||fn) function=abs/tan passes=t
  center-mag=-0.00000000000004396/+0.00000000000002998/0.5561936
  params=-0.8200000000000001/0.6/0.7 float=y maxiter=75
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                     ; 6/14/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=abs/exp passes=1
  center-mag=-7.01462/-25.1932/0.03/1/180 params=0.65/-0.5/2 float=y
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                     ; 6/14/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
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  formulaname=gallet-5-08 function=cotanh/tan/tan passes=1
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint)inkjet, thermal wax,color laser?
Date: 16 Jun 1998 14:23:31 EDT

Greetings

     I suspect some one on the list has done prints of fractals. I'd be very
interested to hear opinions as to the best method. Some one has suggested to
me to explore the possibility as they would like to have a few prints, and i'd
like to give them the best possible image on paper.
Steve


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From: Jon Noring <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (fractint)inkjet, thermal wax,color laser?
Date: 16 Jun 1998 12:05:41 -0700 (PDT)

<[e-mail]> asked:

>     I suspect some one on the list has done prints of fractals. I'd be very
>interested to hear opinions as to the best method. Some one has suggested to
>me to explore the possibility as they would like to have a few prints, and i'd
>like to give them the best possible image on paper.

There are essentially two general categories of making prints of fractal
art:  ink, and photographic.  Ink includes lithographic prints, and ink-jet.
Photographic involves producing a positive or negative transparency using a
Kodak LVT or a Cymbolic Sciences LightJet 2000 and then using photographic
enlarging onto photographic print paper.

For small runs, I much highly prefer the photographic approach as that
produces a much higher resolution image and *much* broader color gamut.
Unfortunately, inks have limited color gamut, and it is difficult with inks
to accurately reproduce many of the brighter RGB colors fractal artists
often use.  In addition, if one uses Ilfochrome or Fuji reversal papers,
the archival life of photographic prints greatly exceeds that of any dye-
based inks (the jury is out on pigment-based inks).  The advantage of ink
prints, though, is greater flexibility with regards to the paper itself, as
well as greater familiarity by the public for art on paper rather than on
polyester substrate.

Once you see a properly made Cibachrome or Fuji super glossy print printed
from an 8x10" Kodak LVT transparency, you'll never want to go back to any
ink-type system -- they are spectacular.  Maybe Lee Skinner can comment
since he has first-hand knowledge of this.

For more information, refer to the Fractal-Art mailing list archives.  Damien
Jones can tell you how to access them.  (Of course, you *need* to subscribe
to the Fractal-Art mailing list).

Good luck.

Jon Noring
"Mr. Kodak LVT/Cibachrome"

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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint)inkjet, thermal wax,color laser?
Date: 16 Jun 1998 20:55:58 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 [e-mail] wrote:
>      I suspect some one on the list has done prints of fractals. I'd be very
> interested to hear opinions as to the best method. Some one has suggested to
> me to explore the possibility as they would like to have a few prints, and i'd
> like to give them the best possible image on paper.

I mentioned some time ago that I'd got an HPGL pen plotter and was
plotting L-Systems with it.  It's pretty neat to watch, but it's slow,
and the color quality is terrible.  Bought two plotters for $10, though.

Also, you can render a low-resolution (like 30x40) image in Fractint
with just a few colors (like 8 or 16) and use the HPGL print feature to
generate a nifty cross-stitch diagram, which you can then render onto a
pillow, towel, or just something to frame, using a needle and
embroidery floss.

You can probably print the HPGL thing on things other than a pen plotter.

Kragen


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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) El Nino
Date: 16 Jun 1998 21:25:11 -0400

Greetings,
Traffic on the fractint list seems to be a bit slow; so I thought I would
take one of the more recent frms and tinker a tad coming up with El Nino.
Especially since it seems La Nina is on the way... :

El Nino            { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Jun 16, 1998 t=0:10:59.22
                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768
                     ; color map: Dav53a
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=dmj-Mand-Cir-Dec passes=1
  center-mag=-0.42108573715725880/+0.60551937720818240/9489.506
  params=0.15/0/2/1/3/0.3 float=y maxiter=800 inside=zmag outside=summ
  decomp=256
  colors=000<56>000A20<10>yhV<20>F62C40A20P00T10<6>wA9<7>P00U0T<8>wwv<10>U\
  0T000<17>000MC6<6>yhV<12>H83D51A20000<70>0000AT<5>0myK0o<2>Q5o
  }

frm:dmj-Magnet-Cir-Ang {
     ; modified by jon camp
     ; outside = decomp: angle of
     ; closest z[n] to ring at p1
     ; This is the angle relative to p1.

 IF (imag(p2) == 0)  ; Invalid value for aspect ratio.
   p2 = (0,1) + real(p2)  ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 IF (real(p3) == 0)  ; Invalid value for color scale.
   p3 = 75 + flip(imag(p3)) ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 IF (imag(p3) == 0)  ; Invalid value for ring radius.
   p3 = (0,1) + real(p3)  ; Substitute a default value.
 ENDIF
 closest = 1e+38   ; Closest approach so far.
 point = 0   ; Point of that closest approach.
 done = 2   ; Iteration counter.
 r = (0,1) ^ (real(p2)/90) ; Compute rotation vector.

 z = 0, c = pixel:  ; Magnet initialization.
 z = ((sqr(z) + (c-1))/(2*z + (c-2)))^2   ; Magnet calculation.

 done = done + 1   ; Done one more iteration.
 z2 = (z-p1) * r   ; Offset to p1 and rotate.
 z2 = real(z2) + flip(imag(z2) * imag(p2)) ; Distort aspect.
 d = abs(cabs(z2) - imag(p3)) ; Compute ring distance.
 IF (d < closest)  ; Closer than previous value.
   point = z   ; Save that point.
   closest = d   ; Save the closest approach.
 ENDIF
 IF (|z| > 100)   ; Point exceeds bailout.
   z = point - p1  ; Return closest point.
   done = -1   ; Set flag to force an exit.
 ENDIF

 done >= 0   ; Continue if the flag is clear.
}

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How do I put it in reverse?

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From: "William J. Hawley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Jcamp09
Date: 16 Jun 1998 21:10:07 -0500

Is Fractint broke or is it just my copy and setup messed up
or is it the par?
First I start the par Jcamp09 in Fractint but before it
finishes hit "M" for menu.
After you are into the menu just hit enter with will get you
back to the fractal.
Fractint now comes back on my machine and says I now have 3
errors in the par.
2 of the  "Error 4, Undifined Operator" and 1 "Error 0,
should be an argument".
Why did it like the parameters when I started the fractal
but finds errors after fractal is started?

Does anyone else get these messages?

--------------------


jcamp09            { ; jon camp, 1998
                     ; chaotic n-space network
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=jcamp.frm
formulaname=jcamp09
  center-mag=-5.06007/0.129155/0.8310295 params=256/3/0.01/0
float=y
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9IIC<10>svbsvbsvbsvb<6>fcR000<4>000
  }

frm:jcamp09 {
        c = pixel
        z = 0
        t = 1
        :
        z = t^(imag(p1))*(1 - .5*(z-c)^2 + (1/24)*(z-c)^4 -
(1/720)*(z-c)^6\
 +(1/40320)*(z-c)^8 - (1/3628800)*(z-c)^10)
        t = t + real(p2)
        |z| <= real(p1)
}

---------------------------

--
                    William J. Hawley
                    [e-mail] at play
--

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From: [e-mail] (exile)
Subject: Re: (fractint)inkjet, thermal wax,color laser?
Date: 16 Jun 1998 21:36:49 -0500

    Kragen> On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 [e-mail] wrote:
    >> I suspect some one on the list has done prints of fractals. I'd
    >> be very interested to hear opinions as to the best method. Some
    >> one has suggested to me to explore the possibility as they
    >> would like to have a few prints, and i'd like to give them the
    >> best possible image on paper.

    Kragen> I mentioned some time ago that I'd got an HPGL pen plotter
    Kragen> and was plotting L-Systems with it.  It's pretty neat to
    Kragen> watch, but it's slow, and the color quality is terrible.
    Kragen> Bought two plotters for $10, though.

 Both Epson and HP have affordable color printers... I get great
prints with mine. {$2oo.oo+}
                   {}Rick
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) Starting Out
Date: 16 Jun 1998 21:53:26 -0500

Would someone recommend a book or good source for beginner with high
interest but little math background.  I am quite fascinated by the great
variety of images possible but am intimadated by the thought of
algorithms, etc.  I think I understand the basic idea of fractals but
would like to know a lot more.  Thanks.


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From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Jcamp09
Date: 16 Jun 1998 22:36:28 -0500

William J. Hawley wrote:
>
> Is Fractint broke or is it just my copy and setup messed up
> or is it the par?
> First I start the par Jcamp09 in Fractint but before it
> finishes hit "M" for menu.
> After you are into the menu just hit enter with will get you
> back to the fractal.
> Fractint now comes back on my machine and says I now have 3
> errors in the par.
> 2 of the  "Error 4, Undifined Operator" and 1 "Error 0,
> should be an argument".
> Why did it like the parameters when I started the fractal
> but finds errors after fractal is started?
>
> Does anyone else get these messages?
>

It appears to me that the syntax errors mentioned were not in the par
file, but in the formula. Perhaps you should discuss this with Jon Camp,
whose formula it was, and a replacement formula might be sent to you.

Bob

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Subject: (fractint) Fractint List
Date: 16 Jun 1998 21:27:11 -0700

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 9 pars (various)
Date: 17 Jun 1998 04:08:29 EDT




Here are some old and some new images with a different map than the originals.

Enjoy~

Jim

**********************************************************

Apache             { ; 0:01:15.14 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/16/98 image(c)JamesWeaver
  reset=1920 type=formula formulafile=jack5.frm formulaname=ormandel15
  function=conj passes=1
  center-mag=-0.0254895/-3.55271e-015/0.4720165/1/-90 params=-3/0
  maxiter=300 potential=255/255/0 invert=1/0/0 periodicity=0
  colors=000OHC<9>biN<11>xgT<4>biW<13>rsittjsti<12>WoTUnRTmR<23>6OD<3>KYQ8\
  66<5>ukj<11>qpmpqnpqnoroqso<6>xskztjysi<36>LE5JC3KC5<13>rgc<8>eXRcWPbVOa\
  TN_SLZRKXPI<11>cSbcTddTfeUheVg<20>tnN<2>wbXsZV<6>pf_og`meZ<13>H37<3>NEB
  }


Pearls             { ; less than 03 min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/17/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=cmplxmarksjul passes=t
  center-mag=-0.06192615951412672/-0.01091925273399419/0.4966602/1/-12.499
  params=0.43/0.15/1.5/0.45 float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000jke<11>WZYUYXTXWRVVRUU<9>QPPNNNLKK<14>eee<11>8DB<14>eee<13>QGD\
  OEAOFC<12>WcgXejWdi<13>GDI<9>ujz<11>Z_YXZVXZW<12>SXhRWjSWj<13>eee<13>6GP\
  3EN3EL<8>5H1FI0GG2<4>ut7<11>IH7<13>iOZkPakQa<12>gdcffdeee<6>dledmedleckd\
  bjd
  }

Fracture_I         { ; less than 02 min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/17/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1821 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm
  formulaname=inandout02 function=sinh/cos passes=b
  center-mag=-0.127882/-5.21805e-015/1.083626/1/180
  params=0.6680000000000001/0.0125/0/0 float=y maxiter=1000
  inside=bof60 decomp=256
  colors=000rgj<2>zjo<4>ncjkbijbi<12>OSXMRWMQU<13>L80<2>UG0YJ0`L0dO0gR0<2>\
  rZ0<11>400A00<2>000<15>0pp<9>0LL0HH2II<12>TZVW`WW`W<12>a`Xb_Ya_X<5>aXS`W\
  RZUQ<3>PMK<13>m_Qo`Ro`R<13>oeWoeWoeWoeWneX<9>ke_ke_je_ie_<9>baXaaX``W`_W\
  <9>jfekgfkgfkgf<11>niiojjnjgmidlha<7>f_UeZTdZT<13>MWWWZZfba<3>pfh
  }

Fracture_II        { ; less than 02 min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/17/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1821 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm
  formulaname=inandout02 function=sinh/cosxx passes=b
  center-mag=-0.117642/-0.107752/1.150874/1/180
  params=0.6680000000000001/0.0125/0/0 float=y maxiter=1000
  inside=bof60 decomp=256
  colors=000QNM<8>WcgXejWdi<13>GDI<9>ujz<11>Z_YXZVXZW<12>SXhRWjSWj<13>eee<\
  13>6GP3EN3EL<8>5H1FI0GG2<4>ut7<11>IH7<13>iOZkPakQa<12>gdcffdeee<6>dledme\
  dle<12>SYXRWWRWW<13>QPPNNNLKK<14>eee<11>8DB<14>eee<13>QGDOEAOFC<2>QLJ
  }

Orb_03             { ; less than 02 min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/17/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1821 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm
  formulaname=inandout02 function=sqr/recip passes=t
  center-mag=-6.21725e-015/4.44089e-015/0.4979686 params=0.01/0/10/0
  float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000eQ0<8>400A00<2>000<15>0pp<9>0LL0HH2II<12>TZVW`WW`W<12>a`Xb_Ya_\
  X<5>aXS`WRZUQ<3>PMK<13>m_Qo`Ro`R<13>oeWoeWoeWoeWneX<9>ke_ke_je_ie_<9>baX\
  aaX``W`_W<9>jfekgfkgfkgf<11>niiojjnjgmidlha<7>f_UeZTdZT<13>MWWWZZfba<7>z\
  jo<4>ncjkbijbi<12>OSXMRWMQU<13>L80<2>UG0YJ0`L0dO0gR0<2>rZ0nW0jT0
  }

Orb_04             { ; less than 04 min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/17/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1821 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm
  formulaname=inandout02 function=sqr/tan passes=1
  center-mag=-8.43769e-015/6.21725e-015/0.5285473 params=0.01/0/10/0
  float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000cZe<8>OSXMRWMQU<13>L80<2>UG0YJ0`L0dO0gR0<2>rZ0<11>400A00<2>000\
  <15>0pp<9>0LL0HH2II<12>TZVW`WW`W<12>a`Xb_Ya_X<5>aXS`WRZUQ<3>PMK<13>m_Qo`\
  Ro`R<13>oeWoeWoeWoeWneX<9>ke_ke_je_ie_<9>baXaaX``W`_W<9>jfekgfkgfkgf<11>\
  niiojjnjgmidlha<7>f_UeZTdZT<13>MWWWZZfba<7>zjo<4>ncjkbijbi<2>e_f
  }

Orb_05             { ; less than 03 min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/17/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1821 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm
  formulaname=inandout02 function=sqr/cotan passes=t
  center-mag=-1.06581e-014/7.99361e-015/0.5096864 params=0.01/0/10/0
  float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000_PN<7>H37<14>biN<11>xgT<4>biW<13>rsittjsti<12>WoTUnRTmR<23>6OD\
  <3>KYQ866<5>ukj<11>qpmpqnpqnoroqso<6>xskztjysi<36>LE5JC3KC5<13>rgc<8>eXR\
  cWPbVOaTN_SLZRKXPI<11>cSbcTddTfeUheVg<20>tnN<2>wbXsZV<6>pf_og`meZ<4>aSP
  }

Orb_06             { ; less than 03 min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/17/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1821 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm
  formulaname=inandout02 function=sqr/sinh passes=t
  center-mag=-1.24345e-014/9.32587e-015/0.540429 params=0.01/0/10/0
  float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000nc_<5>eXRcWPbVOaTN_SLZRKXPI<11>cSbcTddTfeUheVg<20>tnN<2>wbXsZV\
  <6>pf_og`meZ<13>H37<14>biN<11>xgT<4>biW<13>rsittjsti<12>WoTUnRTmR<23>6OD\
  <3>KYQ866<5>ukj<11>qpmpqnpqnoroqso<6>xskztjysi<36>LE5JC3KC5<13>rgcqfboe`
  }

Orb_07             { ; less than 02 min. 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/17/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1821 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm
  formulaname=inandout02 function=sqr/cosh passes=t
  center-mag=-1.24345e-014/9.32587e-015/0.540429 params=0.01/0/10/0
  float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000dVR<9>H37<14>biN<11>xgT<4>biW<13>rsittjsti<12>WoTUnRTmR<23>6OD\
  <3>KYQ866<5>ukj<11>qpmpqnpqnoroqso<6>xskztjysi<36>LE5JC3KC5<13>rgc<8>eXR\
  cWPbVOaTN_SLZRKXPI<11>cSbcTddTfeUheVg<20>tnN<2>wbXsZV<6>pf_og`meZ<2>fYT
  }


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From: jon camp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Jcamp09
Date: 17 Jun 1998 02:04:52 -0700 (PDT)

It looks like it was just a problem with they way the email software
wrapped the message. I don't know if it happened on my end or yours.
Here it is again with a small formating change.

Hope this helps :)

| jon camp                                                   |
| valparaiso univerisity <><                                 |
| chaotic n-space network                                    |
| http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/fractals_gate.html |

frm:jcamp09 {
    c = pixel
    z = 0
    t = 1
    :
    z = t^(imag(p1))*(1 - .5*(z-c)^2\
        + (1/24)*(z-c)^4 - (1/720)*(z-c)^6\
        + (1/40320)*(z-c)^8 - (1/3628800)*(z-c)^10)
    t = t + real(p2)
    |z| <= real(p1)
}

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From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Jcamp09
Date: 17 Jun 1998 06:11:41 -0400

>> First I start the par Jcamp09 in Fractint but before it finishes hit
>> "M" for menu. After you are into the menu just hit enter with will
>> get you back to the fractal. Fractint now comes back on my machine
>> and says I now have 3 errors in the par. 2 of the  "Error 4,
>> Undifined Operator" and 1 "Error 0, should be an argument".

>> Why did it like the parameters when I started the fractal but finds
>> errors after fractal is started?

  This is a bug of the "frm in par" feature that appears when a par entry=

has the same name as the formula included in the par file.  Justrename th=
e
par entry as Jcamp09_p and it will work fine.  It has been fixed in the
developers version.

        - Sylvie

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From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Jcamp09
Date: 17 Jun 1998 06:27:51 -0400

Hi Jon et al,

  The problem has nothing to do with the way the email software wrapped t=
he
message.

  I am posting a message from George Martin who can't post to the list no=
w
because his email address has changed.

>>>>>>>>

The jcamp09 problem described in a message here a day or so ago is caused=

by a bug in fractint 19.6, which gets confused when an image name and a
formula name are the same, and the formula is included in the par file wi=
th
the frm: prefix. To avoid the problem, simply take the formula out of the=

=2Epar file and put it in a .frm file (with the prefix deleted, of course=
).
This problem has been fixed for the next release of fractint. =


George

<<<<<<<<

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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From: Janet Preslar <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Resource List
Date: 17 Jun 1998 08:25:42 -0500

The following is a list of resources for FractInt users and Discussion Li=
st
members. (Last updated June 17, 1998)=20

*** New entries

Please send all corrections, additions, and suggestions to:=20
Janet Preslar (mailto:[e-mail])

FractInt
    At Spanky =97
        http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html
    Mirror site =97
        http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/fractint.html
    FractInt Documentation =97
        http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/findex.html
    FractInt semi-official wish list =97
        http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/robin.b2/olig/fracwish.htm


Information, Tutorials and Explanations
*** Anti-Aliasing Explained (Damien M. Jones) =97
    http://www.fractalus.com/misc/antialias.htm
    Basic FractInt Hints and Tips (Linda Allison) =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/basic/basic-information.htm
*** Coloring Algorithms Explained (Damien M. Jones) =97
    http://www.fractalus.com/misc/implement.htm
    ColorMap tutorial (Linda Allison) =97
        http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/colors.html
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/colormaps/colormaps.htm (mirror=
)
    Color Map Magic (Wizzle) =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/wizmaps/wizmaps.htm
    Color Tricks (Linda Allison) =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/colortricks/colortricks.htm
    Formula tutorial (Bradley Beacham) =97   =20
    http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/frm-tut/frm-tutor.html
    Fractals Explained (Linda Allison) =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/define/fractals_defined.htm
    Fractal Information Page (Damien M. Jones) =97
        http://www.fractalus.com/misc/info.htm
    Guide to the Mandelbrot and Julia Sets (Paul Derbyshire) =97
    http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/manguide.html
    Help for FractInt Discussion List newcomers!! (Wizzle) =97
    http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/fractint_list_q&a.htm
    Hints on getting started (Wizzle) =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/tips-fractint.htm
    If...Else tutorial =97
    http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/If_else.html
    Par and Frm tutorial (Linda Allison) =97
        http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/lesson.html
    http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/pars_and_frms/lesson.html (mirror)
    ParToBat, Tips and Hints for Using (or how to have a life AND generat=
e a
zillion fractals a day ;) ) (Linda Allison)=20
    http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/epic.html
    PHC and PTC Formula tutorial (Sylvie Gallet) =97
    http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/phc/phc-tutor.html
    Proportioning, Sizing, and Skewing tutorial (Linda Allison) =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/proportion/proportions.htm
    Windows 95, How to run FractInt for DOS under =97
        http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/fracwin95.html
    Zooming tutorial (Linda Allison) =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/zoom/zoom-lesson.html


FractInt Discussion List
    FractInt Discussion List archive =97
        ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/fractint/archive/
    1997 Contest (thumbnails of all the entries) =97
        http://www.fractalus.com/contest/
    The 1997 Contest Kit (Re-create the magic at home!!) =97
        http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/Contestk.zip
    Collection of Discussion List Pars & Formulas (Les St. Clair)
    (all the pars and frms since August 1997) =97
        http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/fml.htm
    The iFAQ (collected topics from the list) =97
        http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/iFAQ.html
    Copyrights Discussed (and discussed) =97
        http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/copyright.zip
    ColorMaps collected and organized by Wizzle =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractint_maps/newmaps.htm
    Dr. J's Fractal of the Night =97
        http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/FotN/FotNindx.html


Additional Programs & Utilities
    AddGifs program (Paul Carlson) =97
        http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/addgifs.zip
    FractInt Screensaver (Thore Berntsen) =97
        http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm
    MakeMap utility (Ron Barnett) =97
        http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001/makemap.zip
    Orgfrm program (George Martin) =97
    http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/orgfrm.zip
    Partobat utility (version 3.4 for slower machines) (Michael Peters) =97
        http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/IBMPC/PARTOB.ZIP
    http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JoWeber/jo_05.htm
    Partobat utility (version 3.5 for faster machines) (Michael Peters) =97
    http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JoWeber/jo_05.htm
    XMAP and MMAP utilities (Jim Prickett) =97
    http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/9943


Infinite Fractal Loop
    Home Page =97
        http://www.fractalus.com/ifl/
    Graphical List =97
        http://www.fractalus.com/ifl/list.htm


Particularly Helpful Links Pages
    Wizzle's Graphlinks =97
    http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/graphlinks.htm


Fractal merchandise (posters, mouse mats, t-shirts, etc.)
    Lifesmith =97
        http://www.lifesmith.com/
    Refractal Design Inc. (fractal jewelry) =97
        http://www.refractal.com


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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint)inkjet, thermal wax,color laser?
Date: 17 Jun 1998 09:56:32 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, exile wrote:
>     Kragen> I mentioned some time ago that I'd got an HPGL pen plotter
>     Kragen> and was plotting L-Systems with it.  It's pretty neat to
>     Kragen> watch, but it's slow, and the color quality is terrible.
>     Kragen> Bought two plotters for $10, though.
>
>  Both Epson and HP have affordable color printers... I get great
> prints with mine. {$2oo.oo+}

Yes -- but that wasn't what I was talking about, although it might be
an answer to SKarl's question.

BTW, I don't know what I was thinking when I typed $10.  I meant $25.

Kragen


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From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 9 pars (various)
Date: 17 Jun 1998 10:18:05 -0400

Jim,

Just now I finally got around to run all your pars submitted during the past
couple of weeks or so. Very nice images, all of them. I am particularly impressed
with those using Fractint built in formulas, because they show that those formulas
are virtually inexhaustible.

Gedeon
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From: Trevor Fast <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) partobat problem
Date: 17 Jun 1998 10:22:00 -0500


I've been lurking here for several months mainly just trying to keep up
with reading the volume of mail posted here.  Now that it's slowed
somewhat, I have a problem that hopefully someone here can help me solve.
 I tried to run partobat 3.4 on some par files; it had no problem
creating the batch, but when I tried to run it, I just got a string of
"Bad command or file name" errors in my Dos window.  It strung up a list
of as many of these errors as there were images to draw in the par file.
 When v 3.5 came out, I downloaded it, thinking it might solve the
problem.  It gave me the same set of errors.  (I'm running Win 95 on a
200 Mhz Pentium Compaq.)  HELP!!!

Trevor Fast
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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint list
Date: 17 Jun 1998 20:55:19 +0100

Art Baker <[e-mail]> wrote:

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Art, please send your messages to this list in plain text. You can
accomplish this by selecting Format | Plain text in the Message Composing
screen.

Christian

PS. Couldn't take a look at your pages yet. My ISP is on a migration. (I
send my mail via another service, Het Net).










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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) partobat problem
Date: 17 Jun 1998 20:46:31 +0100

Trevor Fast wrote:


> I tried to run partobat 3.4 on some par files; it had no problem
>creating the batch, but when I tried to run it, I just got a string of
>"Bad command or file name" errors in my Dos window.  It strung up a list
>of as many of these errors as there were images to draw in the par file.
> When v 3.5 came out, I downloaded it, thinking it might solve the
>problem.  It gave me the same set of errors.  (I'm running Win 95 on a
>200 Mhz Pentium Compaq.)  HELP!!!


Find out what was causing the errors by removing
    @echo off
if it exists in the batch file. This removal should cause the dos batch file
to output to the screen the commands executed. If this output is not given,
add
    @echo on
to the beginning of the batch file.

This output is needed for further help.

Christian




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From: "Kim Bach Petersen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint)inkjet, thermal wax,color laser?
Date: 17 Jun 1998 23:00:13 +0200



<[e-mail]> alias Steve wrote:
>     I suspect some one on the list has done prints of fractals.

I've made quite a few color-laser prints and I must say that I'm very
pleased with the results, especially considering the low cost compared to
photographic reproduction.
My local photo-shop has a color-photocopying-machine that can be used as a
printer and it's resolution is 400 dpi, so the output can be rather
astonishing. Still, fractint's resolution maximum of 2048x2048 pixels not
quite enough to fill an entire A3-page (that takes some 5900x3900 pixels),
so it can be recomended either to make a routine that can calculate such a
picture or settle for 100 or 200 dpi.
Even with highly intense colors, the reproduction is fine - it's even
comparable to the colors on the monitor; one migt even say, that the bright
colorswork better than more pastel-like colors.
Normally I convert the fractint gif-file to a format that specifies size and
dpi in order to avoid surprises during printout (fx adobe, since this is the
programme my local dealer is using).

Kim (new on the list)




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From: JoWeber <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) partobat problem
Date: 17 Jun 1998 17:01:23 -0400

Hi Trevor,

try the updated partobat version 3.5. Download it from my site
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JoWeber.
Michael Peters hoped that I solved these problems with his
new version. If than the problems appear to please contact me
and I will send the error message to Michael.
I hope this helps
Cheers --Jo--

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From: Peter Jakubowicz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) the long way around
Date: 17 Jun 1998 17:08:09 -0400

Hi
What happens to the M-set as the max. iteration approaches, or reaches
infinity?




Fractals seen at
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http://members.xoom.com/pfjakub/

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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) the long way around
Date: 18 Jun 1998 20:41:50 +1200

At 17:08 17/06/98 -0400, Peter Jakubowicz wrote:
>Hi
>What happens to the M-set as the max. iteration approaches, or reaches
>infinity?
>
Strictly speaking, nothing. The M-set maps those points which do not
eventually escape to infinity - the key word being "eventually".

Every image produced that uses only a finite number of iterations of the
z^2+c mapping is inherently only an _approximation_ to the true M-set,
albiet one that gets better and better as the number of iterations
increases. The M-set itself _is_ what remains as the number of iterations
approaches infinity (since this is a natural number, it can never _reach_
infinity, which is not a natural number).

So if we're only looking at approximations here, how much of what we're
looking at is really there? Perhaps there is some law or relation or at
least a rule of thumb that allows one to estimate how many iterations are
necessary to reproduce an approximation that is as accurate as can be
achieved at a given resolution and magnification. I don't know, but perhaps
someone else does.

Morgan


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:(fractint)inkjet,thermalwax, color Lazer?
Date: 18 Jun 1998 05:59:15 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-17 17:04:39 EDT, [e-mail] (Kim Bach
Petersen)writes:

<< My local photo-shop has a color-photocopying-machine that can be used as a
 printer and it's resolution is 400 dpi, so the output can be rather
 astonishing. Still, fractint's resolution maximum of 2048x2048 pixels not
 quite enough to fill an entire A3-page (that takes some 5900x3900 pixels),
 so it can be recomended either to make a routine that can calculate such a
 picture or settle for 100 or 200 dpi.
    Normally I convert the fractint gif-file to a format that specifies size
and
dpi in order to avoid surprises during printout (fx adobe, since this is the
programme my local dealer is using). >>
=======================================================
Kim...Welcome to the list and thanks for the informative response.

    My local print shop has Adobe Photo Shop on Mac and appearently a way to
get it to paper. [ more research]
I have PaintShopPro5 which supports Photoshop file extentions  .psd
although I'm not sure if you're saying that this is the file type that
specifies size and dpi?... as there are no ' readily visible ' options other
than ' save as ' and selecting the file type.   [ I'll call them today and see
what they recomend ]


       What fractint video mode are you using to generate the .gif that you
convert and take to print?

        If I were to use a  disk / ram ' video '   mode  how would I then
convert the file? and  to what?


I'm going to think about this a bit and maybe send that last question onto the
list if I can't figure it out.

Welcome to the fractint discussion list and thank you for your valued input
... one and all.

Cheers
Steve






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Subject: RE: (fractint) Resource List
Date: 18 Jun 1998 13:56:05 +0300 (MET-DST)

Hello everybody,
I am a newcomer but I have used a version of Fractint for Windows for years.
I would like to get the newest version for DOS but I have great difficulties.
In Bulgaria the Internet access is VERY slow and unreliable-
I cannot download the whole 0.5 MB zip file at once.
I need someone's assistence- can any of the sites I can get Fractint from
have it split in many 20 kB (or of this size or less) zip or arj files?
I asked Noel at spnaky.triumf.ca but he has limited resuorces.
Another thing, PLEASE don't send it at this address- that is the best
way to have the e-mail service denied to me.
Best wishes
Alexander Shopov

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From: Joe Pearson <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Resource List
Date: 18 Jun 1998 13:26:24 +0200

Alexander
Your best bet is to look on the "Simtel" site which has mirrors in a
number of European cities.  I had the same problem from South Africa.
Unless it's changed recently only V19.5 is available on Simtel.  Go to
http://ftp.globalnet.co.uk/simtel.net/ and search for frain195.zip.  If
it's not fast enough that page has a list of all the mirrors - there may
be one closer to you.

V19.6 has to be got from spanky.triumf.ca.  If you need this I can only
suggest early morning when the Americans are asleep ...

Joe

>Hello everybody,
>I am a newcomer but I have used a version of Fractint for Windows for years.
>I would like to get the newest version for DOS but I have great difficulties.
>In Bulgaria the Internet access is VERY slow and unreliable-
>I cannot download the whole 0.5 MB zip file at once.
>I need someone's assistence- can any of the sites I can get Fractint from
>have it split in many 20 kB (or of this size or less) zip or arj files?
>I asked Noel at spnaky.triumf.ca but he has limited resuorces.
>Another thing, PLEASE don't send it at this address- that is the best
>way to have the e-mail service denied to me.
>Best wishes
>Alexander Shopov
>

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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Resource List
Date: 18 Jun 1998 14:05:33 +0100

Alexander wrote:


>Hello everybody,
>I am a newcomer but I have used a version of Fractint for Windows for
years.
>I would like to get the newest version for DOS but I have great
difficulties.
>In Bulgaria the Internet access is VERY slow and unreliable-
>I cannot download the whole 0.5 MB zip file at once.
<snip> ... </snip>
>Best wishes
>Alexander Shopov


There are shareware programs available that provide you the ability to
download files with the possibility of interrupting - I mean: when the
connection fails, the program continues after trying to restore the
connection. Even if the connection keeps on failing, you can pick up the
downloading even days later. And you can also interrupt the downloading
yourself, so e.g. spreading it over a couple of days.

I myself use GetRight 3.10, which installs as a windows SFX. It works with
Netscape Navigator/Communicator 4.0 and Internet Explorer 4.0. Can be
downloaded at www.getright.com. Size: 921 kB. This probably is the only
problem. But maybe someone on this list knows a smaller program.

Christian




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From: robin bussell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Resource List
Date: 18 Jun 1998 13:54:41 +0100

Hi Alex,

  I've just split up the fractint distribution for you, you can find it at this rather sparse but functional web page:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/robin.b2/fracshred/fshred.htm

full instructions enclosed.. hope it works!

While you're there don't forget to take a peek at my other pages...

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/robin.b2/olig/olig.htm


Cheers,
     Robin.

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From: robin bussell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Resource List
Date: 18 Jun 1998 14:03:47 +0100

Hi Joe

> V19.6 has to be got from spanky.triumf.ca.  If you need this I can only
> suggest early morning when the Americans are asleep ...
>
> Joe


<blatent plug mode>

Actually I always keep an up to date copy on my pages here in the UK, along with the source code and a copy of fracxtra.

There are links from the fractint wishlist:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/robin.b2/olig/fracwish.htm

and my online gallery (features work from other artists as well)

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/robin.b2/olig/olig.htm

</blatent plug mode>

Cheers,
     Robin.




>
> >Hello everybody,
> >I am a newcomer but I have used a version of Fractint for Windows for years.
> >I would like to get the newest version for DOS but I have great difficulties.
> >In Bulgaria the Internet access is VERY slow and unreliable-
> >I cannot download the whole 0.5 MB zip file at once.
> >I need someone's assistence- can any of the sites I can get Fractint from
> >have it split in many 20 kB (or of this size or less) zip or arj files?
> >I asked Noel at spnaky.triumf.ca but he has limited resuorces.
> >Another thing, PLEASE don't send it at this address- that is the best
> >way to have the e-mail service denied to me.
> >Best wishes
> >Alexander Shopov
> >
>
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From: "Art Baker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Resource List
Date: 18 Jun 1998 08:40:35 -0700

If you can't get it any other way I will send it to you on disk in mail.
Just send me your address
Art Baker

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
[e-mail]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 3:56 AM


Hello everybody,
I am a newcomer but I have used a version of Fractint for Windows for years.
I would like to get the newest version for DOS but I have great
difficulties.
In Bulgaria the Internet access is VERY slow and unreliable-
I cannot download the whole 0.5 MB zip file at once.
I need someone's assistence- can any of the sites I can get Fractint from
have it split in many 20 kB (or of this size or less) zip or arj files?
I asked Noel at spnaky.triumf.ca but he has limited resuorces.
Another thing, PLEASE don't send it at this address- that is the best
way to have the e-mail service denied to me.
Best wishes
Alexander Shopov

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From: noel giffin <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Resource List
Date: 18 Jun 1998 10:45:47 -0700 (PDT)


> Your best bet is to look on the "Simtel" site which has mirrors in a
> number of European cities.  I had the same problem from South Africa.
> Unless it's changed recently only V19.5 is available on Simtel.  Go to
> http://ftp.globalnet.co.uk/simtel.net/ and search for frain195.zip.  If
> it's not fast enough that page has a list of all the mirrors - there may
> be one closer to you.
>

    At one time fractint was mirrored at Simtel sites in the following
countries:

     Australia
     Austria
     Belgium
     Brazil
     Canada
     Chile
     China
     Czech Republic
     Finland
     France
     Germany
     Hong Kong
     Italy
     Japan
     Latvia
     Mexico
     Netherlands
     New Zealand
     Norway
     Poland
     Portugal
     Romania
     Slovenia
     South Africa
     South Korea
     Spain
     Sweden
     Switzerland
     Taiwan
     Thailand
     United Kingdom

The links to these sites can be reached from the webpage at:

    http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/getting.html

    I won't guarantee that they are all still active, but there
is a good chance that you can find a site close to home.

    Noel Giffin


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From: Trevor Fast <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) partobat problem
Date: 18 Jun 1998 14:46:00 -0500


Thank you to whoever has and will help me with this problem.  Someone
(I'm sorry, I forgot who) suggested that I rem the @ECHO OFF line in the
batch file and report my results.  Here is the last segment of what I
got:

C:\Fractint\par>IF EXIST DEADBUNN.GIF GOTO 3

C:\Fractint\par>FRACTINT VIDEO=SF6 @SMOCK.PAR/DEADBUNNIES BATCH=YES
SAVENAME=DEADBUNN
Bad command or file name

C:\Fractint\par>IF ERRORLEVEL 2 GOTO ABORT

C:\Fractint\par>
C:\Fractint\par>ECHO SMOCK.BAT successfully completed.
SMOCK.BAT successfully completed.

C:\Fractint\par>ECHO.


C:\Fractint\par>GOTO END

C:\Fractint\par>


When I run the batch with echo off, all it shows is "Bad command or file
name."  Any ideas?

Trevor Fast
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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) partobat problem
Date: 18 Jun 1998 14:54:15 -0400 (EDT)

On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Trevor Fast wrote:
> C:\Fractint\par>FRACTINT VIDEO=SF6 @SMOCK.PAR/DEADBUNNIES BATCH=YES
> SAVENAME=DEADBUNN
> Bad command or file name
>
> When I run the batch with echo off, all it shows is "Bad command or file
> name."  Any ideas?

Fractint is not in your path or your current directory when you run the
batch file.

Kragen


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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) partobat problem
Date: 18 Jun 1998 21:09:09 +0100

Trevor, you wrote:


>
>Thank you to whoever has and will help me with this problem.  Someone
>(I'm sorry, I forgot who) suggested that I rem the @ECHO OFF line in the
>batch file and report my results.  Here is the last segment of what I
>got:
>

<<snipped>>

Now, at the first line of the batch file, add the line

PATH fractdir;%path%

where <fractdir> is the full directory path of your fractint directory. This
should fix the problem.

Christian




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From: "Kim Bach Petersen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:(fractint)inkjet,thermalwax, color Lazer?
Date: 18 Jun 1998 22:40:35 +0200

Further inquiries from <[e-mail]> alias Steve:

>I have PaintShopPro5 which supports Photoshop file extentions  .psd
>although I'm not sure if you're saying that this is the file type that
>specifies size and dpi?... as there are no ' readily visible ' options
other
>than ' save as ' and selecting the file type.   [ I'll call them today and
see
>what they recomend ]


I played a little PaintShopPro 4.14 and at first I found no size or
resolution options, but it can be done: The route to these options is
"file" -> "preferences" -> "file format preferences". Here you will be able
to specify the dpi of saved images. Still, I could only make it work
properly with TIF-files - when converted into Adobe PhotoShop both PSD and
JPG formats failed to maintain size accurately. TIF is however widely used
in dtp, so it should offer no problem.

> What fractint video mode are you using to generate the .gif that you
>convert and take to print?
>If I were to use a  disk / ram ' video '   mode  how would I then
>convert the file? and  to what?

I've made a disk/ram-videomode with a resolution on 1460x970x256. This
corresponds to a A3 page with 2╜cm margins at 100 dpi. I perfer to calculate
pictures at even multiples, i.e. 100, 200 or 400 dpi. Still, I only do 100
dpi prints with fractint; fractint cannot calculate a bitmap large enough
for a 400 dpi print.
Conversion is easy: Simply make fractint save the picture, then load your
GIF and - having set the dpi as above mentioned - save it as a TIF.

Good luck, Kim.



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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:(fractint)inkjet,thermalwax, color Lazer?
Date: 18 Jun 1998 16:58:46 -0400

Kim,

 - Still, I only do 100 dpi prints with fractint; fractint cannot calculate
 - a bitmap large enough for a 400 dpi print.

Not true.  Load the image, press "b", and at the bottom of the screen are
three options for making images in pieces.  If you set these to 2 and 2,
FractInt will save four parameter sets, as well as a handy batch file for
creating each of the pieces from those parameter sets and assembling them
into a single file.  Be sure to press F1 from the "b" screen for help on
this feature.  This is the technique I used to create my own poster from a
FractInt image.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs)
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PSP5 vs PSP4.12
Date: 18 Jun 1998 17:37:45 -0400

Somewhat off topic: Is Paint Shop Pro 5 significantly better than PSP 4.12?
If anyone wishes to enumerate and would prefer to email me direct so as to
not clog the list, that would be fine...and thanks in advance.

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
Back up my hard drive?
How do I put it in reverse?

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) PSP5 vs PSP4.12
Date: 18 Jun 1998 18:50:53 -0400

David,

 - Somewhat off topic: Is Paint Shop Pro 5 significantly better than
 - PSP 4.12?

Yes, significantly.  PSP 5 adds "layers", which is a major new feature.
Layers allow you to keep parts of an image separate, and work on them
independently, shifting them around without affecting the other parts.
Once you've used a graphics program that has layers (like Photoshop,
PhotoImpact, Picture Publisher, or Corel Photo-Paint, to name a few) you
will never want to go back.  JASC finally added this feature and it makes
Paint Shop Pro a whole new program.

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                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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From: "Jason Hine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Starting Out
Date: 17 Jun 1998 18:37:33 -0400



>Would someone recommend a book or good source for beginner with high
>interest but little math background.

If I remember correctly, "Chaos", by James Gleick, is a good in-depth
introduction to fractals without wallowing in math...

Jason Hine


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) PSP5 vs PSP4.12
Date: 18 Jun 1998 19:30:30 EDT

In a message dated 98-06-18 17:44:31 EDT, you write:

<< Is Paint Shop Pro 5 significantly better than PSP 4.12? >>
Greetings
Layers   ...yes... and it also supports digital camera files.
I wish there was a more flexible zoom. A change of 1:1 to 1:2   is a big
jump...
and the tool pallet in 5 is floating as opposed to { i think I remember } on
the tool bar in 4.12 and 4.4?... but not a big problem.

Steve

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint)inkjet,thermalwax, color Lazer?
Date: 18 Jun 1998 19:33:35 EDT

In a message dated 98-06-18 16:45:28 EDT, [e-mail] (Kim Bach
Petersen) writes:

<< Conversion is easy: Simply make fractint save the picture, then load your
 GIF and - having set the dpi as above mentioned - save it as a TIF. >>

Kim,
Cool!
Thanks
Steve

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint)PaintShop4 vs 5,saving with specified dpi
Date: 18 Jun 1998 21:17:05 EDT

In a message dated 98-06-18 16:45:28 EDT, [e-mail] (Kim Bach
Petersen)writes:

<< I played a little PaintShopPro 4.14 and at first I found no size or
 resolution options, but it can be done: The route to these options is
 "file" -> "preferences" -> "file format preferences". >>

Greetings,

Ahhh....I had to reload PSP4.12 to find the option to specify dpi when saving
a file. Appearently PSP5 has removed this option.... or....it has been
desquised in some other menue.       I'll be e-mailing Jasc Inc. next, and
will post their response if it is of help to the inquirey about PSP5 being
better than 4.12 { or 4.14 }
Cheers
Steve

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From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) PSP5 vs PSP4.12
Date: 18 Jun 1998 21:52:09 -0400

The most important differences, layers, Photo CD capability, have already been
mentioned by others as improvements in PSP5. In addition, PSP5 has a neat
feature called picture tube brush, with a number of picture tubes available for
download at http://www.jasc.com/tubes/ (I have some fractal tubes available for
download on my web site too). PSP5 comes packaged with Animation Shop, which is
a better animation program by a long shot than Microsoft's Gif Animator. So all
things considered, it's a great improvement over previous versions.

Gedeon

davides wrote:

> Somewhat off topic: Is Paint Shop Pro 5 significantly better than PSP 4.12?
> If anyone wishes to enumerate and would prefer to email me direct so as to
> not clog the list, that would be fine...and thanks in advance.
>
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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) PSP5 vs PSP4.12
Date: 19 Jun 1998 05:38:28 -0400

To all who answered:

Thanks for info. Often enough new versions of software "x" is not
significantly enough different or improved, once in a great while even
worse in some respects, to warrant obtaining. In this case I will be
upgrading to PSP5 soon. Thanks again.
[e-mail]
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How do I put it in reverse?

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Subject: RE: (fractint) Resource List
Date: 19 Jun 1998 18:06:05 +0300 (MET-DST)

Thanks to everyone of you trying to help me to download fractint.
I hope I'll acomplish that soon enough.
Alexander

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From: "Kim Bach Petersen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:(fractint)inkjet,thermalwax, color Lazer?
Date: 19 Jun 1998 21:28:18 +0200

Damien,

>Not true.  Load the image, press "b", and at the bottom of the screen are
>three options for making images in pieces. [..] This is the technique I
used
>to create my own poster from a FractInt image

Very nice, very nice indeed! I will be making poster this way from now on!
Thanks for the hint, I sure overlooked a valuable feature there :-)

Kim.






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From: "Jacco Burger" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re:(fractint)inkjet,thermalwax, color Lazer?
Date: 19 Jun 1998 23:57:18 +0200

Damien Jones wrote:

>>Not true.  Load the image, press "b", and at the bottom of the screen are
>>three options for making images in pieces. [..] This is the technique I
>used
>>to create my own poster from a FractInt image


I also use this method a lot (instructions are somewhere on page
http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/commands.html ) . There is one
disadvantage, though - it doesn't work proparly for my images that combine
boundary tracing (passes=b) and fillcolor=nnn (for instance fillcolor=255).
I have three images like these on my webgallery
(http://wwwserv.caiw.nl/~jaccobu/index.htm) . They are:
In The Dangerous Kitchen I, in Gallery 1
( http://wwwserv.caiw.nl/~jaccobu/images/jacco010.gif )
The Weaver In The Web That He Made, in Gallery 1
( http://wwwserv.caiw.nl/~jaccobu/images/jacco035.gif )
In The Dangerous Kitchen II, in Gallery 2
( http://wwwserv.caiw.nl/~jaccobu/images/jacco054.gif )

When aplying this so called "divide and conquer" method to these images I
get unwanted horizontal and vertical lines that indicate the different part
the image is made of. Another unwanted effect is that the boundery lines are
still 2 pixels wide, no matter what size the complete image is. But when I
want to enlarge an original image of 800x600 to, let's say 3200x2400 (four
times the original size) I would like to have the boundary lines to be four
times the original size as well (8 pixels in this case).

I can't think of any way to solve this problem, though I realise I ask a
lot. Maybe one the coloring-algorithm-formulae wizards that are on this list
can create a solution....?

bye for now
Jacco
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 5 pars (inandout.frm)
Date: 19 Jun 1998 18:12:31 EDT



Here's some more inandout oddities!.....Enjoy~


Jim

******************************************************************

fracture_2         { ; 0:02:38.51 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/19/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1821 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm
  formulaname=inandout02 function=sinh/cosxx passes=1
  center-mag=-0.0623931/-0.0854557/1.148194/1/180
  params=0.6500000000000002/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=bof60
  decomp=256
  colors=000JTe<9>f1f<10>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<1\
  0>peW<11>TPHRNFPMENKCMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLkjf<12>L\
  HHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<13>Zpu<13>OQBNO7LM6<6>7955\
  743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022<12>7bb8eeAce<2>HWe
  }

Birds              { ; 0:03:05.97 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/19/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1821 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm
  formulaname=inandout02 function=asinh/cosxx passes=1
  center-mag=0/0/0.3/1/90 params=0.6650000000000001/0/0/0 float=y
  colors=000DDG<4>005332<17>zpa<12>UPFMJIEDLAAK<3>ALQAOSARUBUWBXY<6>DqlDtn\
  Cqm<2>BghAdg9`e8Yd7Vb<7>14RC6QO8OP9NQBM000000UFJVHI<7>zH0<8>SDF<4>L0KB8D\
  1H5<19>Q`5Sa6R`6<16>2I6IIAZJE<6>wgF<8>XKDUHDSGC<6>AB7000HIC<10>svcsvc<9>\
  VVLSSJPPHMMFKJD<6>200pdJ<5>zjF<13>RCCEEE<13>kki<12>FFI
  }

fracture_12        { ; 0:01:47.43 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/19/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm
  formulaname=inandout04 function=atan passes=1
  center-mag=0.0222965/1.55431e-015/0.7075472/1/90 params=-1.02/0/0/0
  float=y inside=bof60
  colors=000nnPONLkjf<12>LHHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<13\
  >Zpu<13>OQBNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022<12>7bb8eeAce<1\
  3>f1f<10>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<10>peW<11>TPHRN\
  FPMENKCMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<7>ooM
  }

fracture_14        { ; 0:00:41.69 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/19/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm
  formulaname=inandout04 function=atan passes=1
  center-mag=-0.00601731/1.77636e-015/0.6028624/1/90
  params=-1.05/-0.2/0/0 float=y
  colors=000610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<13>Zpu<13>OQBNO7LM6<6>79557435403\
  30770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022<12>7bb8eeAce<13>f1f<10>000030050080<13>bbbeee\
  ffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<10>peW<11>TPHRNFPMENKCMI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0\
  aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLkjf<12>LHHJFFGCCEA9B76943
  }

fracture_16        { ; 0:03:13.50 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/19/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fract196.frm
  formulaname=inandout04 function=cosxx passes=1
  center-mag=-0.0111212/3.33067e-015/2.307342/1/180
  params=-1.0435/-0.118/0/0 float=y outside=imag periodicity=0
  colors=000ec`<9>LHHJFFGCCEA9B76943610300000<15>S5N<5>dREfUDfVG<13>Zpu<13\
  >OQBNO7LM6<6>7955743540330770BB1FF<14>8ee<3>MhX022<12>7bb8eeAce<13>f1f<1\
  0>000030050080<13>bbbeeeffcgg`iiZ<14>pC7<3>pMI432<10>peW<11>TPHRNFPMENKC\
  MI9<2>GC0<5>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<8>nnPONLkjfihdgfb
  }


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 2 pars (G-3-03-M)
Date: 19 Jun 1998 18:12:18 EDT



Here's some interesting patterns I came across while playing with numbers.

Enjoy~

Jim
***************************************************************************

g303002            { ; 0:03:04.17 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/19/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=G-3-03-M function=sqr/log passes=1
  center-mag=0.412822/0.412822/1.112513/1/45 params=0.13/0/0.41/0
  float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000og`<14>H37<13>`fLbiNdiO<10>xgT<10>Ck_<11>bGnVgk<4>CqdXrTZrPXqT\
  <27>6OD<14>uzz<4>irr<13>xskztjysi<36>LE5JC3KC5<13>rgc<13>ZRKXPIXPJ<13>eU\
  h<21>tnN<2>wbXsZV<6>pf_
  }

g303003            { ; 0:02:29.07 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/19/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=G-3-03-M function=log/conj passes=b
  center-mag=1.0339/-1.1764/2.619666/1/90 params=0.13/0.02/0.4/0
  float=y inside=bof60 periodicity=0
  colors=000ja`<13>tnN<2>wbXsZV<6>pf_og`meZ<13>H37<13>`fLbiNdiO<10>xgT<10>\
  Ck_<11>bGnVgk<4>CqdXrTZrPXqT<27>6OD<14>uzz<4>irr<13>xskztjysi<36>LE5JC3K\
  C5<13>rgc<13>ZRKXPIXPJ<13>eUh<6>i`a
  }


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From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PAR: Julienne Salad
Date: 19 Jun 1998 21:19:10 -0500

Julia_32           { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998
  reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1
  center-mag=-0.00000000000000045/+0.00000000000000035/3038.289
  params=-0.4551770572211026/-0.02741816181182012/3/0 float=y
  maxiter=800 bailout=10000 logmap=-352 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0
  colors=uuuE`Ouuu<177>uuuzzz<15>sW0wZ0<13>850zzz<15>0C00D0<12>03002002002\
  0<8>000 cyclerange=1/1
  }

Julia_33           { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998
  reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1
  center-mag=4.54747e-013/0/0.0006231884/1.3333
  params=0.09486426346767202/0.7833342387176975/3/0 float=y
  maxiter=1250 bailout=2 bailoutest=or inside=bof61 outside=real
  invert=0.5/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=000<13>407zzz<15>90e<14>000zmK<31>zmK000<43>000h8Cg48e04h05e05zmK\
  _05X04zmKR04O03zmKI03F02zmK902601301zzz<15>90eA0hA0fzmK90`80YzmK70T60Qzm\
  K50K40HzmK30C209206000<79>000 cyclerange=1/1
  }

Julia_34           { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998
  reset=1960 type=julia passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.6666667/1.3333
  params=-0.7468836880443174/-0.08747614589139978 float=y maxiter=2000
  symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=000000610000000500901000<11>000k0yj0tj0mi0gg0ae0Wb0S`0MY0IU0EQ0AM\
  07I04E02<2>000000300601901C03F05I07K0A<2>Q0LS0OT0T<2>V0fW0jV0f<2>T0TS0OQ\
  0LO0HM0DK0A<3>901<2>000000100<2>602703905<2>C0BD0EE0GE0JF0M<2>G0V<4>E0GD\
  0EC0BB09A07905<2>401300100<4>000001001002003<7>00E00F00E<6>004640<2>OG0U\
  K0ZO0cS0hW0lZ0ob0sf0uj0xn0<2>zz0<2>xn0uj0sf0ob0lZ0<2>ZO0UK0OG0<3>000000<\
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  3>000000620<2>O82UA3ZC5cE7hG9lIBoKEsMGuOJxQM<2>zVV<2>xQMuOJsMGoKElIB<2>Z\
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  DXuCTsBOoALl9Hh8Dc7AZ67<2>I31 cyclerange=1/1
  }

Julia_35           { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998
  reset=1960 type=julia passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.6666667/1.3333
  params=-0.7674789614595469/-0.1066733834398478 float=y maxiter=1000
  bailoutest=real symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=0
  viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=000D0I<48>D0Izx0zy0xy0<23>000Fx3<30>111000000000Q0`<16>000z00z00<\
  19>zb0<9>000zx0<10>bb0__0YY0VV0TT0<10>000Fx3<30>111000000<31>000
  cyclerange=1/1
  }

Julia_36           { ; (c) by Bob Margolis, 1998
  reset=1960 type=julzpower passes=1 center-mag=0/0/4.577638e-005/2
  params=0.4686849945982691/0.6013283255687919/3.00001/0 float=y
  maxiter=1000 bailout=5 inside=bof61 invert=0.5/0/0 symmetry=xyaxis
  periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1.5/yes/0/0
  colors=008F0M<2>G0V<4>E0GD0EC0BB09A07905703008<23>008009008<2>004640<2>O\
  G0UK0ZO0cS0hW0lZ0ob0sf0uj0xn0<2>zz0<2>xn0uj0sf0ob0lZ0<2>ZO0UK0OG0<3>0000\
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  01C03F05I07K0A<2>Q0LS0OT0T<2>V0fW0jV0f<2>T0TS0OQ0LO0HM0DK0A<3>901<2>0000\
  00100<2>602703905<4>E0GlZ0 cyclerange=1/1
  }

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From: "Turner Rentz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Status Update for the port to Windows NT
Date: 20 Jun 1998 00:12:24 -0400

Fract-NT  0.00.01 alpha

http://athena.atr.net




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From: "Turner Rentz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) PSP5 vs PSP4.12
Date: 20 Jun 1998 00:18:14 -0400

One note:

PSP 5 uses MMX technology. It will run better on P200 class + and PII
processors.


-----Original Message-----


>The most important differences, layers, Photo CD capability, have already
been
>mentioned by others as improvements in PSP5. In addition, PSP5 has a neat
>feature called picture tube brush, with a number of picture tubes available
for
>download at http://www.jasc.com/tubes/ (I have some fractal tubes available
for
>download on my web site too). PSP5 comes packaged with Animation Shop,
which is
>a better animation program by a long shot than Microsoft's Gif Animator. So
all
>things considered, it's a great improvement over previous versions.
>
>Gedeon
>
>davides wrote:
>
>> Somewhat off topic: Is Paint Shop Pro 5 significantly better than PSP
4.12?
>> If anyone wishes to enumerate and would prefer to email me direct so as
to
>> not clog the list, that would be fine...and thanks in advance.
>>
>> [e-mail]
>> [e-mail]
>> Back up my hard drive?
>> How do I put it in reverse?
>>
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 14 pars (Fun!)
Date: 20 Jun 1998 02:45:03 EDT



Here's some more images with that ever so strange looking bof60 and some
different colors.....I'm still trying to learn how to make a decent map, and
have a long way to go yet. Enjoy for now~

Jim
ps ~ the 4th one is my particular favorite

********************************************************

Migraine           { ; 0:01:47.43 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/20/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
                     ; fractu12.gif
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=inandout04 function=atan passes=1
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 14 pars (Fun!)
Date: 20 Jun 1998 03:35:58 EDT


My apologies to the list.  I posted the parfile *Dream_Woven*, which I had
previously posted as *G303002*.   There's just too many fractals to discover
and no secretary to keep track of everything! <g>    Again, I apologize.

Jim

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From: Alan Moltz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Need help
Date: 20 Jun 1998 23:17:54 -0400

I have always been interested in fractals
I joined the e-mail group hoping to learn more about designing fractals.
but I need help:
             1. What is a good beginning software program (Windows95) for
fractals?
             2. What is a good beginners text?
             3. I been reading all the e-mail I get from this group.  Many of
                them have coding which I imagine is the coordinals /color
                to generate a fractals.  Could you please explain to me how
this?
 Thank you

                                                        Alan


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Need help
Date: 21 Jun 1998 05:05:13 EDT

In a message dated 98-06-20 23:27:37 EDT, you write:

<<  help:
              1. What is a good beginning software program (Windows95) for
 fractals? >>

Alan,
Hello and welcome to the fractint list.
What you're seeing in the list are formulas and par files which are for
fractint for DOS.
The frm file is used to generate the fractal image and the image is often
stored as a .gif
...which you may have seen at some of the web sites that are maintained by
poeple on the list.   The par file is  also the fractal but in numeric
form....i.e. to say ...a par file
of a specific image  will  generate that same image  on an others computer.

   Winfract is a version of fractint that runs in Win95.

I don't believe winfract will run most of the frms and pars you see here...
but it might be a way to get you more interested in fractals....and hopefully
to the point where you will
take the leap into dos and get version 19.6 of fractint. { Its not that
difficult of a leap...really}
Winfract for win95 and fractint for dos are both available at the following
address...for free.

http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html

version 19.6 fractint for dos

and Winfract for win95

Feel free to ask questions Alan. There are many here who will gladly help you
get started.
Sincerely,
Steve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Need help
Date: 21 Jun 1998 09:36:15 -0500

Since joining this list I have become consumed with fractals and their pgms.  My
brain is suffering from fracitis!!!  With so many programs to choose from I seem
to be loosing touch.  Would someone please just tell what I should start with?!
I dwnld fractint but it is not starting.  Don't know what I did wrong.  Booted to
DOS but can't seem to get the pgm to initialize.  Anyway must give my eyes a
rest.  Thanks, Petra Lynn

[e-mail] wrote:

> In a message dated 98-06-20 23:27:37 EDT, you write:
>
> <<  help:
>               1. What is a good beginning software program (Windows95) for
>  fractals? >>
>
> Alan,
> Hello and welcome to the fractint list.
> What you're seeing in the list are formulas and par files which are for
> fractint for DOS.
> The frm file is used to generate the fractal image and the image is often
> stored as a .gif
> ...which you may have seen at some of the web sites that are maintained by
> poeple on the list.   The par file is  also the fractal but in numeric
> form....i.e. to say ...a par file
> of a specific image  will  generate that same image  on an others computer.
>
>    Winfract is a version of fractint that runs in Win95.
>
> I don't believe winfract will run most of the frms and pars you see here...
> but it might be a way to get you more interested in fractals....and hopefully
> to the point where you will
> take the leap into dos and get version 19.6 of fractint. { Its not that
> difficult of a leap...really}
> Winfract for win95 and fractint for dos are both available at the following
> address...for free.
>
> http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html
>
> version 19.6 fractint for dos
>
> and Winfract for win95
>
> Feel free to ask questions Alan. There are many here who will gladly help you
> get started.
> Sincerely,
> Steve
>
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From: "Jason Hine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Need help
Date: 21 Jun 1998 11:51:22 -0400

Petra wrote:
>I dwnld fractint but it is not starting.  Don't know what I did wrong.  Booted
to
>DOS but can't seem to get the pgm to initialize.

Petra, how are you trying to start fractint, and what happens when you try?
Here's a brief list of possible problems you might be encountering:

I'll assume you've booted to DOS...
1) First, make sure you are in the same directory as the fractint program you
downloaded.  You can use the DOS command 'dir' to list the contents of the
directory you're currently in, and 'cd', followed by the directory name, to
change directories.  If you need  an example, please ask.
2) Next, you should know that Fractint came to yuo as a compressed file, which
you will need to uncompress using a program called PKUNZIP.  Type 'pkunzip' at
the DOS prompt.  If you see a screen full of instruction on how to use PKUNZIP,
then press any key to get out of the instructions, and type 'pkunzip -d
fra*.zip'.  This will uncompress Fractint.  If you don't see the screen of
instructins when you type 'pkunzip', then you will need to download this very
commonly-used program from the web.  You can find PKUNZIP for both DOS and Win95
, along with instructions for their installation, at:

http://www.pkware.net

3.  Once you have Fractint unzipped, then type 'fractint' at the DOS prompt.
Fractint should start up, and present you with the opening screen which shows a
scrolling list of authors and contributors to Fractint.  To see a fractal (one
known as the Mandelbrot set), just press [Enter] a few times to accept the
default settings, and after three or four presses, the fractal should draw on
your screen.  Press F1 once for some help, or twice for the main help menu.
[Esc] will get you back to the main menu and if pressed again will let you exit
Fractint.

If you have trouble with step 3, let this list know, and help should be quickly
provided!

Jason Hine

>> Winfract for win95 and fractint for dos are both available at the following
>> address...for free.
>> http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html
>> version 19.6 fractint for dos
>> and Winfract for win95
>>
>> Feel free to ask questions Alan. There are many here who will gladly help you
>> get started.
>> Sincerely,
>> Steve



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From: "Marie Drozdis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Need help
Date: 21 Jun 1998 12:19:16 -0400

Jason, I'm not familiar with the zip version of Fractint.

My DOS version of Fractint came in a file called fraint.exe.  Double
clicking on the file expanded it, and then double clicking on fractint.exe
runs the program.  Is the Windows version a zipped file?

Marie

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Jason Hine
Sent:    Sunday, June 21, 1998 11:51 AM

 >>>2) Next, you should know that Fractint came to yuo as a compressed file,
which
you will need to uncompress using a program called PKUNZIP<<<

http://www.pkware.net

3.  Once you have Fractint unzipped, then type 'fractint' at the DOS prompt.
Fractint should start up, and present you with the opening screen which
shows a
scrolling list of authors and contributors to Fractint.  To see a fractal
(one
known as the Mandelbrot set), just press [Enter] a few times to accept the
default settings, and after three or four presses, the fractal should draw
on
your screen.  Press F1 once for some help, or twice for the main help menu.
[Esc] will get you back to the main menu and if pressed again will let you
exit
Fractint.

If you have trouble with step 3, let this list know, and help should be
quickly
provided!

Jason Hine

>> Winfract for win95 and fractint for dos are both available at the
following
>> address...for free.
>> http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html
>> version 19.6 fractint for dos
>> and Winfract for win95
>>
>> Feel free to ask questions Alan. There are many here who will gladly help
you
>> get started.
>> Sincerely,
>> Steve



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From: David Ellis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Version of FractInt with 3DNow! support?
Date: 21 Jun 1998 12:09:46 -0500

Does anyone know if work is being done on updating FractInt to work with
processors that support the new 3DNow! instructions?  I saw an article on
C'T magazine where they had modified their own fractal generator to use
those instructions and got a five-fold increase in speed.




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From: [e-mail] (elxvans)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Need help
Date: 21 Jun 1998 13:32:22 -0400

Date sent:          Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:36:15 -0500
Send reply to:      [e-mail]

> Since joining this list I have become consumed with fractals and their pgms.  My
> brain is suffering from fracitis!!!  With so many programs to choose from I seem
> to be loosing touch.  Would someone please just tell what I should start with?!
> I dwnld fractint but it is not starting.  Don't know what I did wrong.  Booted to
> DOS but can't seem to get the pgm to initialize.  Anyway must give my eyes a
> rest.  Thanks, Petra Lynn
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>

Have you tried Stephen C. Ferguson's InkBlot Kaos as a starter's fractal
generator? It's quite easy to use, and gives excellent results. Fractint is
excellent, but if you're not used to DOS, it's sort of mind-boggling for a beginner.

You can get this program from Stephen's page at
http://home.hiwaay.net/~stephenf/


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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Need help
Date: 21 Jun 1998 13:49:21 -0400 (EDT)

I can't help you with the first two questions, but I can help you with
the third.

On Sat, 20 Jun 1998, Alan Moltz wrote:
>              3. I been reading all the e-mail I get from this group.  Many of
>                 them have coding which I imagine is the coordinals /color
>                 to generate a fractals.  Could you please explain to me how
> this?

When you use Fractint to generate a fractal, you can save the
parameters you used to generate it in a text file, called a "par file",
for "parameter file".  You, or some other fractint user, can then use
the settings saved in that file to generate the same fractal -- and
zoom around in it, or change parameters, or whatever.


The other thing that often gets posted here is formulas.  You can
write your own formulas for fractals, which takes a certain amount of
mathematical ability, and there's quite a bit of art to it as well.

Kragen


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From: chris landrum <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) fractint
Date: 21 Jun 1998 11:06:10 -0700

hate to sound like a total dummy, but.....
when you talk about changing parameters, just *how* do ya do that?

chris

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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Version of FractInt with 3DNow! support?
Date: 21 Jun 1998 20:52:47 +0100

>Does anyone know if work is being done on updating FractInt to work with
>processors that support the new 3DNow! instructions?  I saw an article on
>C'T magazine where they had modified their own fractal generator to use
>those instructions and got a five-fold increase in speed.
>


Geez... a five-fold increase... I don't want to sound too condescending, but
this is rather ridiculous.

A five-fold increase compared to WHAT?
And maybe the new instruction (or two or a few more) are faster, but i
really doubt the complete routine is much faster.

3DNow!? Isn't that AMD's? I don't know any details, but to me it seems
they'd better work on the fpu...

I don't know of any 3DNow! optima(liza)tion. It's too new to expect
anything.
I do know that (at least) Damien Jones is on a hunt for nanoseconds with P5
optimation.

Christian




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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint
Date: 21 Jun 1998 20:56:07 +0100

>hate to sound like a total dummy, but.....
>when you talk about changing parameters, just *how* do ya do that?
>
>chris
>


Well, I guess there are two ways, which I call the dynamical and statical
ways.

Dynamical meaning changing the view window and position, colors by color
cycling, and options from <x>,<y> and <z> screens.

Statical meaning manual, by editing saved par files in a text editor.

Christian




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From: David Bringen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Where are the frm's?
Date: 21 Jun 1998 14:57:35 -0500

Ok, the par's are parameter files, and we can save them and launch them
as is. But a lot of par's I see invoke formulas that aren't in any of
the .frm files that came with Fractint (at least what I got). So I'm
assuming that there are homebrew .frm files out there, or at least
listings of formulas. Maybe people even swap them, like cookie recipes.
Are there? Are they archived somewhere? Any lists of pages or FTP sites
with .frm files? Somebody? Anybody? Hello? Is this thing on? :-)

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From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Where are the frm's?
Date: 21 Jun 1998 16:21:13 -0400

Yes, this thing is on! There are a large number of formula files available
for download at http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html
The largest collection of formulas, containing over 8500, is known as
Orgform, which also includes a program to organize formulas. Look for
Orgfrm.zip at the above site.
Les StClair maintains a compilation of formulas and parameters posted to
this list. Visit his homepage and you can download them.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/

 Gedeon

David Bringen wrote:

> Ok, the par's are parameter files, and we can save them and launch them
> as is. But a lot of par's I see invoke formulas that aren't in any of
> the .frm files that came with Fractint (at least what I got). So I'm
> assuming that there are homebrew .frm files out there, or at least
> listings of formulas. Maybe people even swap them, like cookie recipes.
> Are there? Are they archived somewhere? Any lists of pages or FTP sites
> with .frm files? Somebody? Anybody? Hello? Is this thing on? :-)
>
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From: David Ellis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Version of FractInt with 3DNow! support?
Date: 21 Jun 1998 16:54:19 -0500

At 08:52 PM 6/21/98 +0100, you wrote:
>>Does anyone know if work is being done on updating FractInt to work with
>>processors that support the new 3DNow! instructions?  I saw an article on
>>C'T magazine where they had modified their own fractal generator to use
>>those instructions and got a five-fold increase in speed.
>>
>
>Geez... a five-fold increase... I don't want to sound too condescending, but
>this is rather ridiculous.

Here is the corresponding web page:

http://www.heise.de/ct/english/98/12/028/


>A five-fold increase compared to WHAT?
>And maybe the new instruction (or two or a few more) are faster, but i
>really doubt the complete routine is much faster.

21 new instructions, all designed to operate on 4 floating point numbers in
a single clock cycle.

>3DNow!? Isn't that AMD's? I don't know any details, but to me it seems
>they'd better work on the fpu...

It's AMD's design but they have licensed it to NSC(Cyrix) and IDT.  IDT
will have a chip out in july with the instructions included.




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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint
Date: 21 Jun 1998 19:11:07 -0400 (EDT)

On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, chris landrum wrote:
> hate to sound like a total dummy, but.....
> when you talk about changing parameters, just *how* do ya do that?

There are several sets of parameters.  Some of them can be got to by
typing x, y, or z when you're looking at the fractal.

Kragen


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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Version of FractInt with 3DNow! support?
Date: 21 Jun 1998 19:41:53 -0400 (EDT)

On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, Christian Strik wrote:
> Geez... a five-fold increase... I don't want to sound too condescending, but
> this is rather ridiculous.
>
> A five-fold increase compared to WHAT?

Presumably a fivefold increase compared to the speed of the fractal
generator when it was using the standard instruction set to do the same
thing.

> And maybe the new instruction (or two or a few more) are faster, but i
> really doubt the complete routine is much faster.

Why?  It seems quite sensible to me that vector instructions, quick
matrix multiplies, etc., could increase the speed of appropriate code
by a factor of five or ten.  It looks like the 3DNow! stuff increases
the speed of certain things by a factor of nine or so.

> 3DNow!? Isn't that AMD's? I don't know any details, but to me it seems
> they'd better work on the fpu...

Not to be a jerk, but maybe you should go read some articles about the
K6 and 3DNow! before you make remarks like this.


Suggested reading:
overview, benchmarks:
    http://hardware.pairnet.com/amdk62/review/3dnow.html
    http://www.gamecenter.com/Hardware/Components/Amd/
    http://walden.mo.net/~tmiller/k6review.html
    http://www.cyrellis.com/hardware/cpu/cpu006.htm
discussion group:
    http://forums.delphi.com/preview/main.asp?sigdir=3dnow
slightly more technical info, including cycle times:
    http://www.chiptech.com/jc/3DNow%21/3D_Code_Analysis.htm
assembly code and cycle times:
    http://www.chiptech.com/jc/3DNow%21/3DNow%21.htm

Kragen


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From: chris landrum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint
Date: 21 Jun 1998 17:02:14 -0700

thanked you for this:



Kragen wrote:
>
> On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, chris landrum wrote:
> > hate to sound like a total dummy, but.....
> > when you talk about changing parameters, just *how* do ya do that?
>
> There are several sets of parameters.  Some of them can be got to by
> typing x, y, or z when you're looking at the fractal.
>
> Kragen
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From: David Bringen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Where are the frm's?
Date: 21 Jun 1998 21:21:21 -0500

Good! Appreciate the response. I like to play around a lot with the
formulas too (am just learning the "language"), but this'll help me know
what everybody else is talking about. Thanks.

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From: "Faye Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Where are the frm's?
Date: 21 Jun 1998 20:33:01 -0700


-----Original Message-----


>Ok, the par's are parameter files, and we can save them and launch them
>as is. But a lot of par's I see invoke formulas that aren't in any of
>the .frm files that came with Fractint (at least what I got). So I'm
>assuming that there are homebrew .frm files out there, or at least
>listings of formulas. Maybe people even swap them, like cookie recipes.
>Are there? Are they archived somewhere? Any lists of pages or FTP sites
>with .frm files? Somebody? Anybody? Hello? Is this thing on? :-)

I asked nearly the same question last weekend.  I wanted to know why the
pars and formulas are sent
by text instead of being attached as a par file or frm file.
I use to get them off the net that way.  Not one person gave me an answer.
I got many personal replies from people agreeing with me - but I was left
feeling that I had asked such a stupid question that no one wanted to answer
me.
I don't have DOS on my computer.  I have DOS on a floppy that runs fractint
for me.  So taking the formulas
to fractint from Windows is not easy.  That is why I
asked the question.  Is any one out there?  Somebody?
Anyone?  Hello!

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From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Where are the frm's?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 00:09:14 -0400

Faye Williams wrote:

> I wanted to know why the pars and formulas are sent by text instead of being
> attached as a par file or frm file.

It is the policy of this list not to send attachments. The pars and formulas
which appear as text here are easily converted into par and frm files
respectively by copying and pasting them into Notepad or another text editor and
saving them with the proper extension. That is what all of us are doing.

> I don't have DOS on my computer.  I have DOS on a floppy that runs fractint
> for me.  So taking the formulas to fractint from Windows is not easy.

I have no idea how you do that, but I wonder: how can you have Windows without
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Where are the frm's?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 04:31:23 EDT

In a message dated 98-06-21 23:43:22 EDT, you write:

<< I have DOS on a floppy that runs fractint
 for me.  So taking the formulas
 to fractint from Windows is not easy. >>
======================
Greetings,
     I believe the real reason that text is the required and prefered form of
communication is that there are so many different types of e-mail involved
here that the one most basic commonality we all share is text. Also some pay
by the hour for connection and to collect the mail is enough of a task.
Downloading attachments would take more time and effort.
======================
   Gedeon says fractint will run in a dos box ...meaning use the MS-Dos
prompt,
I'm sure it does for some but it won't on my machine....it always hangs
up...no matter.
I restart my machine in ms-dos mode.
Choose to change directories [ cd ] to your specific fractint directory
and type fractint.exe. { sometimes you can leave off the .exe }
cd \    means change to the highest directory ...namely the top of the C
drive... because... when you
restart in MS-DOS mode you are beginning in the windows directory which is
within the C drive.
This is why you see     WINDOWS>

     If this makes no sense let me know and I'll re - state the process in a
different way...
==========================================
i.e.at:WINDOWS>cd \                                  hit enter
at::::::C>cd frain196                                     hit enter
{ or what ever your fracint directory is called }
at::::::FRAIN196>fractint.exe                        hit enter
==========================================

well....there i did it anyways.   :-)

Out of the e-mail     highlight...   with  your cursor...
the part that is the frm and the par.
select copy.
Open note pad.
select paste...and paste the text to mote pad.
Now name the file    "list1.par"     or    "temp.par"
and save it in the fractint directory.  "   "    insures that the file doesn't
get named    temp.par.txt as note pad automatically adds a .txt extention if
you don't use "  "   .

Download a coupple of   copies of    fractint-digest and get familiar with the
way the frms and pars look.
     The architecture of the text is sometimes critical as to whether the par
or frm will be recognized by fractint as a valid file.
Also open a blank note pad { by now if you don't have one lying on your desk
top { short cut } you might want to
do that to save the time....     open a blank one and then select file \ open
and browse your way to the fractint
directory and look for a file that has the .par or .frm extention on it and
open one of the ones that function propperly.
Observe that there are no spaces in the text of the par or frm.
Observe the fact that there is no 3 dimentional looking wackiness...meaning
the left margin is straight.
Observe that at the end of all the lines in a par that denote color there is a
\ .
      Sometimes the text gets a little disrupted  as it was written in one e-
mail software and is opened by an other.   You'll get used to it.   Its good
therapy.    And you may learn things about computeres you never knew.
Hope this makes sense to you.
Sincerely,
Steve
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:(fractint)fractint
Date: 22 Jun 1998 04:46:54 EDT

Greetings

At this page you will see the help documentation that is included in fractint.
Its a different view on this page and migh help with the command structure of
the program.

http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/commands.html

Steve

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From: "Jason Hine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Need help
Date: 22 Jun 1998 06:08:21 -0400

Marie wrote:

>Jason, I'm not familiar with the zip version of Fractint.
>
>My DOS version of Fractint came in a file called fraint.exe.  Double
>clicking on the file expanded it, and then double clicking on fractint.exe
>runs the program.  Is the Windows version a zipped file?


Ah, it sounds like the Stone Soup group (or *someone*) has made the downloadable
file into a self-extracting file... wonderful!  I would guess that both the DOS
and Windows versions of Fractint are both self-extracting at this point, but I'm
not sure... if you download a .exe file, it is, and if it's a .zip file, then
you'll need PKUNZIP.

Thanks for the pointer, Marie!  Jason Hine


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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Version of FractInt with 3DNow! support?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 10:57:50 -0500

David Ellis,

 - 21 new instructions, all designed to operate on 4 floating point numbers
 - in a single clock cycle.

Small correction: two floating point numbers, not four.  (According to
AMD's "AMD-3D Technology Manual" PDF file, anyway.)

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Subject: Re: (fractint) Version of FractInt with 3DNow! support?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 10:52:34 -0500

Christian,

Actually, AMD *has* increased the speed of their FPU; they needed to do
that before 3DNow! would be worth anything.

3DNow! is more than just a few instructions.  The idea behind MMX is to use
a single instruction to process multiple sets of data in parallel (i.e.
four parallel multiplies).  The idea behind 3DNow! is the same: use a
single instruction to do two parallel floating-point operations.

The floating-point used in 3DNow! is single-precision, so it is of limited
use to fractals.  (Only low zooms would benefit.)  But 3DNow! also
accelerates several operations which are normally very slow: dividing and
finding square roots.  These can be done much faster with 3DNow! than with
ordinary floating-point operations, at the cost of lower precision.

Because of the low precision, I don't think 3DNow! will really offer that
much to fractal generating, much as MMX doesn't really offer much.  But in
the process of adding 3DNow!, AMD finally got around to taking care of the
general floating-point performance in the AMD K6, and now it uses a
pipelined, high-throughput FPU similar in speed to Intel's processors.

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Subject: (fractint) pars & frms question
Date: 22 Jun 1998 09:19:46 -0700

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Ok, the par's are parameter files, and we can save them and launch them
>as is. But a lot of par's I see invoke formulas that aren't in any of
>the .frm files that came with Fractint (at least what I got). So I'm
>assuming that there are homebrew .frm files out there, or at least
>listings of formulas. Maybe people even swap them, like cookie recipes.
>Are there? Are they archived somewhere? Any lists of pages or FTP sites
>with .frm files? Somebody? Anybody? Hello? Is this thing on? :-)



I asked nearly the same question last weekend.  I wanted to know why the =
pars and formulas are sent by text instead of being attached as a par =
file or a frm file. I use to get them off the net that way.  Not one =
person gave me an answer. I got a lot personal replies from people =
agreeing with me - but I was left feeling that I had asked such a stupid =
question that no one wanted to answer me. I don't have DOS on my =
computer.  I have DOS on a floppy that runs fractint for me.  So taking =
the formulas to fractint from Windows is not easy.  That is why I asked =
the question.  Is any one out there?  Somebody? Anyone?  Hello!


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<DIV>-Original Message-----<BR>From: David Bringen <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>><BR>=
Sunday, June 21, 1998 12:57 PM<BR>Subject: (fractint) Where are the=20
frm's? </DIV>
<DIV><A=20
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A><BR><BR>=
<BR><BR>Ok,=20
the par's are parameter files, and we can save them and launch =
them<BR>>as=20
is. But a lot of par's I see invoke formulas that aren't in any =
of<BR>>the=20
.frm files that came with Fractint (at least what I got). So =
I'm<BR>>assuming=20
that there are homebrew .frm files out there, or at =
least<BR>>listings of=20
formulas. Maybe people even swap them, like cookie recipes.<BR>>Are =
there?=20
Are they archived somewhere? Any lists of pages or FTP sites<BR>>with =
.frm=20
files? Somebody? Anybody? Hello? Is this thing on? :-)<BR> </DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV>I asked nearly the same question last weekend.  I wanted to =
know why=20
the pars and formulas are sent by text instead of being attached as a =
par file=20
or a frm file. I use to get them off the net that way.  Not one =
person gave=20
me an answer. I got a lot personal replies from people agreeing with me =
- but I=20
was left feeling that I had asked such a stupid question that no one =
wanted to=20
answer me. I don't have DOS on my computer.  I have DOS on a floppy =
that=20
runs fractint for me.  So taking the formulas to fractint from =
Windows is=20
not easy.  That is why I asked the question.  Is any one out=20
there?  Somebody? Anyone?  Hello!</DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV>Faye </DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A></DIV>
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From: "John C. A. Misterio'" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) PSP5 vs PSP4.12
Date: 21 Jun 1998 17:17:37 +0100

Turner Rentz wrote:

> One note:
>
> PSP 5 uses MMX technology. It will run better on P200 class + and PII
> processors.

Yes, but a real fractalfan uses 486 or P133- to see every single pixel... ;-)




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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Need help
Date: 22 Jun 1998 13:28:23 EDT

In a message dated 98-06-22 07:35:55 EDT, you write:

<< and if it's a .zip file, then
 you'll need PKUNZIP. >>

Greetings,
An other option is:::
Any zip of a DOS program or Win95 program can be un zipped while in Win95
using WinZip or WinPack or any unzipping utility.
All you need to do is provide a directory to put it in.
Then acces the program from dos... or in Win95....   whatever it expects.
Steve

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) pars & frms question
Date: 22 Jun 1998 13:36:05 EDT

In a message dated 98-06-22 12:22:51 EDT, you write:

<< I don't have DOS on my computer.  I have DOS on a floppy that runs fractint
for me.  >>
What is your operating system???   Win95?  NT ??

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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Where are the frm's?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 19:22:27 +0100

Faye Williams wrote:

>I don't have DOS on my computer.  I have DOS on a floppy that runs fractint
>for me.

You're running Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 under win9x? Then you should have
dos 7.x, not? I guess you can choose dos by (1) pressing F8 at boot-up and
then choose the Command Line option; (2) Start | Shutdown in MS-DOS mode;
(3) run a dos box within windows.

Christian





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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Version of FractInt with 3DNow! support?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 19:13:36 +0100

Kragen wrote:

>On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, Christian Strik wrote:
>> Geez... a five-fold increase... I don't want to sound too condescending,
but
>> this is rather ridiculous.
>>
>> A five-fold increase compared to WHAT?
>
>Presumably a fivefold increase compared to the speed of the fractal
>generator when it was using the standard instruction set to do the same
>thing.
>

I meant, compared to what processor? An ordinary K6? At what speed?

Christian




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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Version of FractInt with 3DNow! support?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 19:17:34 +0100

Kragen wrote:


>Not to be a jerk, but maybe you should go read some articles about the
>K6 and 3DNow! before you make remarks like this.
>
>
>Suggested reading:
>overview, benchmarks:
> http://hardware.pairnet.com/amdk62/review/3dnow.html
> http://www.gamecenter.com/Hardware/Components/Amd/
> http://walden.mo.net/~tmiller/k6review.html
> http://www.cyrellis.com/hardware/cpu/cpu006.htm
>discussion group:
> http://forums.delphi.com/preview/main.asp?sigdir=3dnow
>slightly more technical info, including cycle times:
> http://www.chiptech.com/jc/3DNow%21/3D_Code_Analysis.htm
>assembly code and cycle times:
> http://www.chiptech.com/jc/3DNow%21/3DNow%21.htm
>
>Kragen

Geez... Quite a list - do you work at AMD's?  :)

But okay, i may well have been a bit prejudiced. Sorry for that. And I
*will* take a look at these pages (that is, when my isp has finally finished
the migration actions).

Christian




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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Need help
Date: 22 Jun 1998 19:26:24 +0100

>>My DOS version of Fractint came in a file called fraint.exe.  Double
>>clicking on the file expanded it, and then double clicking on fractint.exe
>>runs the program.  Is the Windows version a zipped file?
>
>Ah, it sounds like the Stone Soup group (or *someone*) has made the
downloadable
>file into a self-extracting file... wonderful!  I would guess that both the
DOS
>and Windows versions of Fractint are both self-extracting at this point,
but I'm
>not sure... if you download a .exe file, it is, and if it's a .zip file,
then
>you'll need PKUNZIP.


For windows WinZIP can be used instead of PKUNZIP. With winzip, even non-sfx
archives are easy to extract (and create).
This works for all zip files.

Christian




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From: "John C. A. Misterio'" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) pars & frms question
Date: 22 Jun 1998 19:20:06 +0100

Faye Williams wrote:
a HTML-Message

Please do not write HTML-Messages
I guess not everyone can read them ;-)

Markus





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From: "Kim Bach Petersen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) par-files
Date: 21 Jun 1998 22:37:00 +0200

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Is there any specific reason (besides tradition) why .PAR files is pasted
into the email text rather than included as an attachment file? I for one
would find the latter more convenient.

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From: "John C. A. Misterio'" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 6 pars
Date: 22 Jun 1998 19:41:10 +0100

Well here are some of my fractals...

-------

Deformation        { ; try colorcycling !
  reset=1950 type=manfn+zsqrd function=sin passes=b
  center-mag=-0.49708557000000010/+0.00103759999999997/0.6671281/0.9996
  params=0/0 maxiter=82500 bailout=30 decomp=256 biomorph=0

colors=000zR0<16>zx0zz0zz1<29>zzxzzzzzz<61>zV1zU0zU0zT0<28>z10z00z00y00<\
  30>c00b11a11`22_22<23>GEEFFFFFFFFF<29>x11z00z10<11>zP0
  }

TwinHead           { ; Looks like two mandels
  reset=1910 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=LeeMandel1 center-mag=1.31725e-005/2.73285e-005/3.418406
  params=0/0/0/0/0/0 bailout=16 maxiter=82500

colors=000GEEFFFFFFFFF<29>x11z00z10<29>zx0zz0zz1<29>zzxzzzzzz<61>zV1zU0z\
  U0zT0<28>z10z00z00y00<30>c00b11a11`22_22<22>HEE
  }

Tripelbrot         { ; No, this is not one of the mandels
  reset=1950 type=mandel4

center-mag=-0.59162247194839710/+0.45721307388416420/4698.461/1/120.565/\
  -1.124 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=82500

colors=000FFF<29>x11z00z10<29>zx0zz0zz1<29>zzxzzzzzz<61>zV1zU0zU0zT0<28>\
  z10z00z00y00<30>c00b11a11`22_22<25>FFF
  }

Mandelbrot again   { ; Another one...
  reset=1910 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=LeeMandel2 center-mag=0.503529/1.11165e-005/4.902198
  params=0/0/0/0/0/0 inside=0 potential=255/500/500 maxiter=82500

colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555<3>HHHKKKOO\

OSSSWWW___ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0z0<3>0zz<2>0GzVVz<3>zV\

z<3>zVV<3>zzV<3>VzV<3>Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zhz<3>zhh<3>zzh<3>hzh<3>hzz<2>hlz00\

S<3>S0S<3>S00<3>SS0<3>0S0<3>0SS<2>07SEES<3>SES<3>SEE<3>SSE<3>ESE<3>ESS<2\

>EHSKKS<2>QKSSKSSKQSKOSKMSKK<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<3\

>G0G<3>G00<3>GG0<3>0G0<3>0GG<2>04G88G<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<2>GE8GG8EG8CG\

8AG88G8<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<2>GFBGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<2\
  >BGFBGGBFGBDGBCG8YC<2>1ZC<3>9SS
  }

Blue theme         { ; What is this ? - This is Blue
  reset=1950 type=julia(fn||fn) function=sinh/cosh
  center-mag=+0.00372314500000015/+0.00207519499999997/0.3335641/0.9996
  params=0/3/3.14159265358979 bailoutest=and maxiter=82500

colors=00000B<22>00k00m01m<29>0ky0mz1mz<30>zzz<46>2zz0zz0yz<45>02z00z00y\
  <59>002000000000<5>009
  }

Lenscare           { ; Huh, your eyes aren't as good as they were
yesterday...
                     ; (use 800*600*256 upwards !)
  reset=1910 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=Richard5
  center-mag=+1.20630404500000000/-0.00025174022000000/109.1957/0.9996
  params=0/0/0/0/0/0 inside=0 potential=255/600/500
  colors=0000Hh<60>0z00z01y0<82>z00z00y01<82>00z00z01y<20>0Hi
  }



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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 22 Jun 1998 14:27:10 -0400 (EDT)

On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, Kim Bach Petersen wrote:
> Is there any specific reason (besides tradition) why .PAR files is pasted
> into the email text rather than included as an attachment file? I for one
> would find the latter more convenient.

This comes up frequently.

I prefer them inlined in the text because it's more convenient for *me*.

What mailer are you using?  What steps do you have to take to save and
run a par file from cutand paste?  What steps do you have to take to
save and run a par file from an attachment?

e.g.
1. Double-click on "Shortcut to mailing-list.par" icon.
2. Highlight par text in email.
3. HIt Control-C.
4. Click on mailing-list.par window.
5. Hit Control-V.
6. Alt-Tab to Fractint.
7. Hit @, etc.

Kragen


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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 22 Jun 1998 14:27:10 -0400 (EDT)

On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, Kim Bach Petersen wrote:
> Is there any specific reason (besides tradition) why .PAR files is pasted
> into the email text rather than included as an attachment file? I for one
> would find the latter more convenient.

This comes up frequently.

I prefer them inlined in the text because it's more convenient for *me*.

What mailer are you using?  What steps do you have to take to save and
run a par file from cutand paste?  What steps do you have to take to
save and run a par file from an attachment?

e.g.
1. Double-click on "Shortcut to mailing-list.par" icon.
2. Highlight par text in email.
3. HIt Control-C.
4. Click on mailing-list.par window.
5. Hit Control-V.
6. Alt-Tab to Fractint.
7. Hit @, etc.

Kragen


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From: "John C. A. Misterio'" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 22 Jun 1998 19:54:29 +0100

Kim Bach Petersen wrote:

>  Is there any specific reason (besides tradition) why .PAR files is
> pasted into the email text rather than included as an attachment file?
> I for one would find the latter more convenient.


Besides tradition .. ;)

In this list you are not allowed to include files as attachements. So we
just copy them into the body.

Markus





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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 22 Jun 1998 15:37:26 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, John C. A. Misterio' wrote:
> In this list you are not allowed to include files as attachements.

When did this policy go into effect?  It would be sort of nice (it
would stop people from posting those darn multipart/alternative
text/html text/plain messages) but I haven't heard of it before.

Kragen


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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 22 Jun 1998 22:26:48 +0100

John Misterio' wrote:
>In this list you are not allowed to include files as attachements. So we
>just copy them into the body.


Huh? Okay, atts aren't favored. We've had that disc. But "are not allowed" -
i never heard of such a rule. Or it should be said on the list before April
15 this year - the day i joined this list. But i guess not, for discussion
of the atts issue took (amongst other times?) place after this date.

Christian




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From: "Jon Camp" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 3 pars
Date: 22 Jun 1998 13:54:27 -0700

Here are three pars using a black and gold color map.....

| jon camp                                                   |
| valparaiso univerisity <><                                 |
| chaotic n-space network                                    |
| http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/fractals_gate.html |

jcamp17            { ; jon camp, 1998
                     ; chaotic n-space network
  reset=1960 type=manlam(fn||fn) function=cosxx/cotan
  center-mag=+0.00639343000000014/-0.00006103499999988/0.3160104
  params=0.1/-0.25/15 float=y bailout=128 bailoutest=manh inside=bof60
  outside=summ
  colors=000<60>yyyzzzzzz<61>111000000000<61>mmUmmUllU<58>113002000000111
  }

jcamp18            { ; jon camp, 1998
                     ; chaotic n-space network
  reset=1960 type=manlam(fn||fn) function=cosxx/cotan
  center-mag=-3.56374958445327700/+0.03106613109903802/29.78512/1/17.5
  params=0.1/-0.25/15 float=y bailout=128 bailoutest=manh inside=bof60
  outside=summ
  colors=000<60>yyyzzzzzz<61>111000000000<61>mmUmmUllU<58>113002000000111
  }

jcamp19            { ; jon camp, 1998
                     ; chaotic n-space network
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=inandout04 function=cosxx passes=1
  center-mag=-0.0846982/-0.0970873/0.8081129/1/90
  params=-1.0435/-0.118/0/0 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=startrail
  invert=0.29126285169371/0/0 decomp=256 distest=1/1/1280/1024
  periodicity=0
  colors=000<62>zzzzzzyyy<60>111000000000<61>mmUmmUllU<58>113002000000
  }

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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) La_Nina1
Date: 22 Jun 1998 17:41:15 -0400

(As this La Nina seems to be about as strong as the recent El Nino)

"Flipping" through more pars I came across dmj-Mand-Triangle. A couple of
small changes and color map gave the following par. There is obviously a
close relationship with dmj-Mand-Triangle par, but enough of a difference
also.

==========================================================================>

La_Nina1           { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Jun 21, 1998 t=0:05:23.40
                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768
                     ; color map: prpl
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=dmj-mand-triangle passes=1
  center-mag=+0.27534889540567080/+0.00678633637548891/8538.251
  params=0/0/0/0/512/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=zmag outside=summ
  symmetry=xaxis periodicity=0
  colors=000L0G<16>403302000<20>VVQXXSYYT__V``W<7>llgnniookqqmrro<4>zzw<14\
  >YYUWWRUUQ<13>222000000<82>302<8>Y0P`0Ra0Sb0T<9>000B08<32>`0Sa0Sb0Tb0Tb0\
  Ua0T<15>M0H
  }

frm:dmj-Mand-Triangle(XAXIS) { ; outside = real: triangle inequality average
     ; original idea and formula from L. Kerry Mitchell
     ; modified for total continuity by dmj, 9-8-97

     IF (real(p3) == 0)       ; Invalid value for color scale.
       p3 = 75 + flip(imag(p3))    ; Substitute a default value.
     ENDIF
     IF (imag(p3) == 0)       ; Invalid value for bailout.
       p3 = (0,128) + real(p3)     ; Substitute a default value.
     ENDIF
     sum = 0                  ; Running total.
     done = 1            ; Iteration counter.
     ac = cabs(pixel)         ; Absolute value of pixel (precalc).
     il2 = 1/log(2.0)         ; Inverse log 2 (precalc).
     lp = log(log(imag(p3)))       ; log(log bailout) (precalc).
     f = -1                   ; No fractional iteration yet.

     z = pixel, c = pixel:         ; Mandelbrot initialization.
     az2 = |z|           ; Save absolute value of first term.
     z = sqr(z) + c           ; Mandelbrot calculation.

     lowbound = abs(az2 - ac) ; Calculate lower bound for sum.
     sum = sum + (cabs(z) - lowbound) / (az2+ac - lowbound)
                         ; Ratio between bounds.

     done = done + 1               ; Done one more iteration.
     IF (az2 > imag(p3))      ; Point exceeds bailout.
       IF (f < 0)             ; First time; let it go again.
         f = il2*lp - il2*log(log(cabs(z))) + 2; Fractional iteration.
         oldsum = sum / done       ; Save the average ratio so far.
       ELSE                   ; Second time past bailout.
         sum = sum / done          ; Average ratio.
         f = oldsum + (sum-oldsum) * (f-1) ; Interpolate sum.
         z = f * real(p3)          ; Apply color scale.
         z = z - 255*trunc(z/real(255)) ; Wrap at 255.
         z = z - done - 5          ; Return value.
         done = -1            ; Set flag to force an exit.
       ENDIF
     ENDIF

     done >= 0           ; Continue if the flag is clear.
}

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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 18:21:39 -0400

At 08:33 PM 6/21/1998 -0700, Faye Williams wrote:

(snipped)

>I don't have DOS on my computer.  I have DOS on a floppy that runs fractint
>for me.

(snipped)

I am very puzzled by the above statement. I suspect what is intended is
that you have Fractint 19.x (DOS version) as opposed to Winfract, and you
have that copy of the program on a floppy - is that correct?


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From: "Faye Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 22 Jun 1998 16:15:44 -0700

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    To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
    Date: Monday, June 22, 1998 10:49 AM
    Subject: (fractint) par-files
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From: David Ellis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Version of FractInt with 3DNow! support?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 18:15:14 -0500

At 07:13 PM 6/22/98 +0100, you wrote:
>I meant, compared to what processor? An ordinary K6? At what speed?

  Compared to the same processor (whatever the speed) running the
unenhanced code, obviously.  A K6-2 running at 50 Mhz will execute the
3DNow! enhanced mandelbrot code 5 times faster than the same processor
running the original, non-enhanced mandelbrot code.


  Couple of other notes - someone mentioned that the K6-2 has an improved
FPU with pipelining.  This is false.  See AMD's web site for details on
exactly what they improved and added (
http://www.amd.com/products/cpg/k63d.html ) . They'd be the first to holler
if they had made such improvements as adding pipelining to the K6-2.  FWIW,
I ran my original K6-300 thru Winbench and the FPU Winmark was 973.  I then
popped the K6 out and replaced it with the K6-2 and got a 974.  No
discernable difference.

  As for the applicability of the new 3DNow! instructions to FractInt, I
see no reason why they can't be used as a superior substitute for 32-bit
integer work, regular FPU zooms, and deep-zooming.  Obviously, if a
programmer can code deep zoom utilizing 64-bit double precision FPU
registers, they can do the same using 32-bit single precision FPU
registers.  Since fractal coding usually involves a lot of square root work
and since the 3DNow! instruction set includes the ability to do square
roots over 10 times faster than the regular FPU, it can be expected that
you can get from here to there faster using the 3DNow! instruction than
with the regular FPU unit, its' 64-bit register size notwithstanding.




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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy?t't't't't't....
Date: 22 Jun 1998 19:16:51 EDT

In a message dated 98-06-22 18:28:56 EDT, you write:

<<  DOS on a floppy >>

"P'L'P'L'P'L'P'L'P'L'PLEASE EDDIE!!!!!!!"
Roger pleads feaverishly behind a thin and gradually collapsing firewall of
sanity
as the sound of that karmic phrase bounces around in his empty head like a
flubber ping pong ball.
"Youse know how us toones are....If I..If I... hear that phraze
onononone...one more time
I'm gonna.....I'm gonna looooooooooozzzzzzzzzzzzzz it!!!!!!!!! "
Eddie...  sometimes sadistic...especially when he hasn't had the time to spend
fractalizing....when he's been working on tedious things like learning new
software
and lameo software ta boot....he turns slowly to Roger and
venemously....lustfully even...
with a gleam of impending pleasure in his eyes says .... " What phraze you
silly rabbit...
could it beeeeeee.... DOS on a FLoppy "????"
 Sweat is now beading up on Rodgers forehead ....dripping off his drooping,
quivering ears.
He has his arms wrapped around his head holding it in but the pressure is
mounting
behind his bugging eyes and it seems that theres going to be no comeing back
from that last taunt from the realm of old cliche. He's turning pink holding
his breath... but to no avail. Like a teenage boy over the edge in a make out
session with his first "real" girlfriend...he just can't hold the ammo any
more>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 { turn the page }

Twoooooooooooooooooooooo000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
0000000...
gasp...gasp....pant...pant...
Bits!!!!!!!!!
============================================================================
End of rant,
Steve :-P.

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Version of FractInt with 3DNow! support?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 18:25:45 -0500

David Ellis,

 -  Couple of other notes - someone mentioned that the K6-2 has an improved
 - FPU with pipelining.

That was me.

 - This is false.  See AMD's web site for details on exactly what they
 - improved and added

Thanks for the correction and the reference.  The information I had read
regarding that was published in a trade magazine (I forget which one)
rather than taken directly from AMD's site.

 - FWIW, I ran my original K6-300 thru Winbench and the FPU Winmark was 973.
 - I then popped the K6 out and replaced it with the K6-2 and got a 974.

Hmmm, yeah, that seems to indicate it's the same old FPU!

 -  As for the applicability of the new 3DNow! instructions to FractInt, I
 - see no reason why they can't be used as a superior substitute for 32-bit
 - integer work, regular FPU zooms, and deep-zooming.

Because single-precision floating-point numbers have only 24 bits of
precision, not 32 bits.  They don't get you as far.  And they're not going
to get you any substantial improvement in deepzooming, which is based on
using fixed-point integers of arbitrary size.  MMX doesn't offer much for
deepzooming, either.

 - Obviously, if a programmer can code deep zoom utilizing 64-bit double
 - precision FPU registers,

They don't, the deepzoom is based on integer code.

 - Since fractal coding usually involves a lot of square root work

Some fractals do, many don't.  The Mandelbrot set calculation involves only
addition, subtraction, and multiplication.

 - and since the 3DNow! instruction set includes the ability to do square
 - roots over 10 times faster than the regular FPU, it can be expected that
 - you can get from here to there faster using the 3DNow! instruction than
 - with the regular FPU unit, its' 64-bit register size notwithstanding.

You don't have to zoom very far to get beyond 24-bit precision.  A few
zooms will do it.

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Version of FractInt with 3DNow! support?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 18:40:48 -0500

David Ellis,

 - Small correction: two floating point numbers, not four.  (According to
 - AMD's "AMD-3D Technology Manual" PDF file, anyway.)

Seems I must apologize for this one too: it's two numbers per instruction,
but up to two instructions per cycle, thus your number of four is correct
as per AMD's web page.

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                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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From: David Ellis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) RE: Mandelbrots and 3DNow!
Date: 22 Jun 1998 18:50:59 -0500

Perhaps if someone on this list who speaks German could go poke around C'T
Magazine's web site and locate their mandelbrot program (and source,
perhaps).  The English section is very limited and I can't find the program
they are talkingabout anywhere.  Especially if we can obtain the source
code that utilizes the 3DNow! code, then we will now how they manage to
generate mandelbrots with it.

http://www.heise.de/ct/




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From: "Jason Hine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fwd: Algorithms
Date: 22 Jun 1998 21:40:43 -0400

The following message was posted by Karlton on 6/22/98 to the
fracprogrammers-list.  I am re-posting it here because I thought some of the
folks on this list might have some ideas for him.  I don't think he is a member
of this list, and because most of us are not members of the
fracprogramming-list, I am including his email addr+ACo-ss, +AF8-without+AF8- Karlton's
permission.
To try and avoid possible spamming techniques, each piece of his addr+ACo-ss is on a
separate line, followed by a space and a random character.  Comments on my
audacity and technique are welcome.  And now, without further Ado...

Karlton writes:
I am programming a Massively Parallel computer.  I have already
programmed it to do the Mandelbrot and the Julia sets, I am looking for
other fractal algorithms that would also work on it.  If you have any or
know where I can find some fractal algorithms, I would appreciate it.
Karlton
wirsingk +ACU-
+AEA-acm.org +ACM-


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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fwd: Algorithms
Date: 22 Jun 1998 22:04:25 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Jason Hine wrote:
> Karlton writes:
> I am programming a Massively Parallel computer.  I have already
> programmed it to do the Mandelbrot and the Julia sets, I am looking for
> other fractal algorithms that would also work on it.  If you have any or
> know where I can find some fractal algorithms, I would appreciate it.
> Karlton
> wirsingk +ACU-
> +AEA-acm.org +ACM-

It would be worthwhile to enhance fractint to support MPI or PVM,
methinks.

Kragen


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From: "mctupper" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) (fractit) A late Easter Egg
Date: 22 Jun 1998 21:40:49 -0600

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I missed out on decorating Easter eggs this year, but through the magic of
fractals, I have found a nice little egg all ready to go.  I hope you enjoy
it as much as I did finding it.

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OK, who stopped payment on my reality check?

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Date: 22 Jun 1998 23:42:24 -0400

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        This is what I have been saying. Why don't we attach the pars?

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From: "Faye Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 22 Jun 1998 22:31:40 -0700

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To Christian and Steve,
I forwarded this message to the computer expert here who set up my =
computer and all the computers for my company.  He's an electronic =
engineer and a computer technician.  He's been working
on computer for over 18 years from the old teletype in a sound proof =
room through the Apple II, Apple II Plus, Commodore, IBM-PC, 286, 386, =
486, Pentium, Pentium Pro, Pentium MMX, and finally the Pentium II. He's =
also worked with higher end systems such as SUN, SGI, VME, and SciTech. =
He's worked with MS-DOS versions 5.0, 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 6.22, and 7.5 =
(released with Windows 95). and also other os's such as OS/2, OSR2, =
Linux, UNIX, and Macintosh. He presently owns 7 systems doing highend =
video, graphics and animation.  This is his explanation as to why why I =
don't have DOS on my system.
My thanks to you Christian for your attempt to help me find an MS-DOS =
solution but an MS-DOS window using F8 then 6 or shutdown and restart in =
MS-DOS mode only gets you to a command prompt. I have OSR2 on my present =
system (Second release of Windows 95). I once had a dual operating =
system on my drive but it is not possible with OSR2. If you still have =
the older Windows 95 it will work, but only if you install MS-DOS 6.22 =
(or other version). First, copy the dos dir to another dir, install =
Windows 95 to a different dir than Windows 3.1 or 3.11 Windows for =
Workgroups, edit the MS Dos.sys file from the Windows 95 side (boot to =
Windows 95) add under options 'BootMulti=3D1' and 'BootMenu=3D1'. Delete =
the dos dir and copy the contents of the saved dos back to the original =
dos dir renaming 5 files that end in .exe to .old and that is it. Two =
fully independent os's working on the same machine. The reason why OSR2 =
won't work with this setup is that it has a certain capabilities that =
the Windows 95 or DOS os's don't have. DOS has a 2 Gb partition =
limitation. Windows 95 was released with DOS 7.5. Windows 95 sat atop of =
this DOS 7.5 so it too had this 2 GB limitation. OSR2 is it's own os. NO =
DOS. This os allows one drive to be partitioned at nearly any size. For =
instance, my drive C is 8 Gb. When you goto fdisk (set up partitions) =
with OSR2 it asks if you want to enable large disk support. This 8 Gb =
partition (drive c) is not recognized by any version of DOS or previous =
versions of Windows 95. If I boot to a floppy,  drive c does not even =
show up!! When I drop to a command prompt (it says ms-dos prompt because =
it emulates a dos prompt) it is just that, a command prompt, not MS-Dos. =
If you type ver at this command prompt you will see it still is Windows =
95 . Fractint and some other programs require MS-DOS version 5.0, 6.0 =
,6.1 ,6.2, or 6.22 to run properly. The first version of Windows 95 =
placed atop of MS-DOS 7.5 also does not work with some programs. The =
only way to run fractint is to boot to a DOS 6.22 formatted floppy. That =
is what I have to do.

Faye
[e-mail]


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electronic=20
engineer and a computer technician.  He's been working</FONT></DIV>
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through the=20
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Pentium Pro,=20
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end=20
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versions=20
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other=20
os's such as OS/2, OSR2, Linux, UNIX, and Macintosh. He presently owns 7 =
systems=20
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explanation as to=20
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have DOS on my=20
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to help me=20
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my=20
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the older=20
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version).=20
First, copy the dos dir to another dir, install Windows 95 to a =
different dir=20
than Windows 3.1 or 3.11 Windows for Workgroups, edit the MS Dos.sys =
file from=20
the Windows 95 side (boot to Windows 95) add under options =
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dos back to=20
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the=20
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version of=20
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MS-Dos.=20
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From: "Shauna Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 21:41:37 -1000

On 22 Jun 98 at 18:21, davides wrote:

> At 08:33 PM 6/21/1998 -0700, Faye Williams wrote:
>
> (snipped)
>
> >I don't have DOS on my computer.  I have DOS on a floppy that runs fractint
> >for me.
>
> (snipped)
>
> I am very puzzled by the above statement. I suspect what is intended is
> that you have Fractint 19.x (DOS version) as opposed to Winfract, and you
> have that copy of the program on a floppy - is that correct?

Well, he could be running OS/2, which can be installed
without DOS support, or Windows NT. Neither are DOS! <G>

Another blast of bits from David
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From: [e-mail] (F.J. Slijkerman)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Version of FractInt with 3DNow! support?
Date: 23 Jun 1998 09:46:56 +0200 (MET DST)


> single precision floating-point numbers

That's of course enough for 3D applications and games -- but
for fractals it's still unusable. No one ever seems to care
about fractals :(

Regards,
Frederik.

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 1 par (birds)
Date: 23 Jun 1998 04:34:44 EDT


I found these two lovebirds and thought everyone should see them. :)
Enjoy~

Jim

*****************************************************************

Field_Grouse       { ; 0:03:05.97 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/22/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1821 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=inandout02 function=asinh/cosxx passes=1
  center-mag=0/0/0.3/1/90 params=0.6650000000000001/0/0/0 float=y
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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy?
Date: 23 Jun 1998 06:07:50 -0400

At 09:41 PM 6/22/1998 -1000, you wrote:
>
>Well, he could be running OS/2, which can be installed
>without DOS support, or Windows NT. Neither are DOS! <G>
>
But now we have the answer: DOS indeed on  a floppy :). Just, for some
reason, sounds odd to me, but so do most things... :)
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
Back up my hard drive?
How do I put it in reverse?

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From: Ian Kaplan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fwd: Algorithms
Date: 23 Jun 1998 09:38:56 -0400 (EDT)

Kragen wrote:

> It would be worthwhile to enhance fractint to support MPI or PVM,
> methinks.

Might as well work from the nice, clean XWindows source for this- I don't
think anyone will want the DOS features on a massively-parallel box! I
imagine that our original messager has considerable experience doing
ports to his box; given the source code, he might want to undertake the
project...


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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 10:32:28 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Faye Williams wrote:
> <a rather unreadable message, due to a lousy email reader>

As far as I can see, what you're saying is that you can't run Fractint
in Win95 OSR2's DOS prompt -- whether you're in a DOS window or just
"booted in DOS mode" -- right?  What happens when you try it?

Kragen



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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fwd: Algorithms
Date: 23 Jun 1998 10:50:38 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Ian Kaplan wrote:
> > It would be worthwhile to enhance fractint to support MPI or PVM,
> > methinks.
>
> Might as well work from the nice, clean XWindows source for this

Praise the Lord and pass the compilers!

> - I don't
> think anyone will want the DOS features on a massively-parallel box!

It'd be nice to be able to use a DOS box to watch the fractals being
generated, change parameters, etc., given that the DOS UI is still a
lot nicer than the XFractint UI.  Also, it might be worthwhile to set
up a huge MP machine that can be used to render fractals for Sylvie
Gallet, Wizzle, Gumbycat, et al., while they sit at home running
Fractint on their little DOS boxes.

> I imagine that our original messager has considerable experience doing
> ports to his box; given the source code, he might want to undertake the
> project...

Agreed.

Kragen


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From: "RJ Corradino" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 11:35:22 -0400

I find this quite confusing.  I do have OSR2 running, and I tried out a ver
at the command prompt.  It does say Windows 95, not dos.  Neat.

Only weird thing is, Fractint runs fine for me.  Is this just a partitioning
thing then?  I'm on a 5.2 gig HD...

-RJ



Faye wrote;
To Christian and Steve,
I forwarded this message to the computer expert here who set up my computer
and all the computers for my company.  He's an electronic engineer and a
computer technician.  He's been working
on computer for over 18 years from the old teletype in a sound proof room
through the Apple II, Apple II Plus, Commodore, IBM-PC, 286, 386, 486,
Pentium, Pentium Pro, Pentium MMX, and finally the Pentium II. He's also
worked with higher end systems such as SUN, SGI, VME, and SciTech. He's
worked with MS-DOS versions 5.0, 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 6.22, and 7.5 (released with
Windows 95). and also other os's such as OS/2, OSR2, Linux, UNIX, and
Macintosh. He presently owns 7 systems doing highend video, graphics and
animation.  This is his explanation as to why why I don't have DOS on my
system.
My thanks to you Christian for your attempt to help me find an MS-DOS
solution but an MS-DOS window using F8 then 6 or shutdown and restart in
MS-DOS mode only gets you to a command prompt. I have OSR2 on my present
system (Second release of Windows 95). I once had a dual operating system on
my drive but it is not possible with OSR2. If you still have the older
Windows 95 it will work, but only if you install MS-DOS 6.22 (or other
version). First, copy the dos dir to another dir, install Windows 95 to a
different dir than Windows 3.1 or 3.11 Windows for Workgroups, edit the MS
Dos.sys file from the Windows 95 side (boot to Windows 95) add under options
'BootMulti=1' and 'BootMenu=1'. Delete the dos dir and copy the contents of
the saved dos back to the original dos dir renaming 5 files that end in .exe
to .old and that is it. Two fully independent os's working on the same
machine. The reason why OSR2 won't work with this setup is that it has a
certain capabilities that the Windows 95 or DOS os's don't have. DOS has a 2
Gb partition limitation. Windows 95 was released with DOS 7.5. Windows 95
sat atop of this DOS 7.5 so it too had this 2 GB limitation. OSR2 is it's
own os. NO DOS. This os allows one drive to be partitioned at nearly any
size. For instance, my drive C is 8 Gb. When you goto fdisk (set up
partitions) with OSR2 it asks if you want to enable large disk support. This
8 Gb partition (drive c) is not recognized by any version of DOS or previous
versions of Windows 95. If I boot to a floppy,  drive c does not even show
up!! When I drop to a command prompt (it says ms-dos prompt because it
emulates a dos prompt) it is just that, a command prompt, not MS-Dos. If you
type ver at this command prompt you will see it still is Windows 95 .
Fractint and some other programs require MS-DOS version 5.0, 6.0 ,6.1 ,6.2,
or 6.22 to run properly. The first version of Windows 95 placed atop of
MS-DOS 7.5 also does not work with some programs. The only way to run
fractint is to boot to a DOS 6.22 formatted floppy. That is what I have to
do.

Faye
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: RE: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 11:44:30 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, RJ Corradino wrote:
> I find this quite confusing.  I do have OSR2 running, and I tried out a ver
> at the command prompt.  It does say Windows 95, not dos.  Neat.

After you shut down your computer, when it says "it is now safe to turn
off your computer", what happens if you type "mode co80" and hit
return?

Kragen


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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 10:56:53 -0500

Faye,

 - My thanks to you Christian for your attempt to help me find an MS-DOS
 - solution but an MS-DOS window using F8 then 6 or shutdown and restart
 - in MS-DOS mode only gets you to a command prompt.

Congratulations, you just found DOS.  Microsoft just hid it a little.  It
may be "Windows 95 DOS", rather than MS-DOS in a more basic form, but it is
DOS and it will run DOS programs just fine.

You can also run DOS FractInt from inside Windows itself.  You do not need
to restart in DOS mode.  In your Start/Programs menu you should have a "DOS
Prompt" option; that starts what is commonly dubbed a "DOS box" and will
also run DOS programs, albeit with a few more limitations.  FractInt runs
fine in such a "DOS box"; I do it all the time on my own OSR2 system.

The reason you can't dual-boot on OSR2 is because MS flubbed something in
their boot code to make it not work.  There are some non-MS patches to make
it work again, but nothing official from MS; as far as they are concerned,
it's not an issue, because OSR2 was never sold to end users, and thus was
only ever installed on new systems (which didn't have a previous OS to
boot).  The procedure you describe for setting up dual-boot on original
Windows 95 is certainly correct; I've done it many times before.

DOS has a 2G partition limit, true.  OSR2 simply adds a new type of
partition, that can be any size (practically).  Most programs simply don't
care, because they're not dealing with hard drives at this level.  You can
still run a lot of DOS apps without worrying about it.  Only programs which
work on the file system on the hard drive (like ScanDisk, Defrag, etc.) are
a problem.

OSR2 does still sit on top of a DOS.  It's its own DOS, but it's still DOS.
 If you've got a bit partition, you need to make an OSR2 boot disk; if you
boot that, you will be able to see your C: drive just fine.  Just think of
OSR2's DOS as a newer version of DOS with a new format for your hard drives.

 - Fractint and some other programs require MS-DOS version 5.0, 6.0, 6.1,
 - 6.2, or 6.22 to run properly.

Small note: not only does FractInt run fine from the OSR2 command prompt
(which is Windows 95 DOS, as the "ver" command showed you) but it also runs
fine from PC-DOS and, I suspect, from DR-DOS or most other DOS variants as
well.  It doesn't require *Microsoft* DOS; it simply requires something
that is substantially compatible with it.  It's not that picky!

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Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 23 Jun 1998 14:27:21 +0100

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Christian Strik wrote:

> John Misterio' wrote:
> >In this list you are not allowed to include files as attachements. So we
> >just copy them into the body.
>
> Huh? Okay, atts aren't favored. We've had that disc. But "are not allowed" -
> i never heard of such a rule. Or it should be said on the list before April
> 15 this year - the day i joined this list. But i guess not, for discussion
> of the atts issue took (amongst other times?) place after this date.
>
> Christian
>

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Faye Williams wrote:

> I wanted to know why the pars and formulas are sent by text instead of being
> attached as a par file or frm file.

It is the policy of this list not to send attachments. The pars and formulas
which appear as text here are easily converted into par and frm files
respectively by copying and pasting them into Notepad or another text editor and

saving them with the proper extension. That is what all of us are doing.

....

Hmmm
I've never tried to send an attachement to this list. But this mail shows me
that it is impossible to send attachements here. This would not be something
new.
I just think that's a good idea to prevent people from sending attachements (to
spam others).

If here is an attachement (a small picture), the listserver allows attachements
:

Markus

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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 22 Jun 1998 22:35:42 +0100

>On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, John C. A. Misterio' wrote:
>> In this list you are not allowed to include files as attachements.
>
>When did this policy go into effect?  It would be sort of nice (it
>would stop people from posting those darn multipart/alternative
>text/html text/plain messages) but I haven't heard of it before.
>
>Kragen


You once posted you were able to cat the atts. I understood you are kind of
a keyboard freak - :) - just like me although i also use winNT. So the
simple cat command wouldn't be so hard, would it? Don't know about Elm.

But i wonder really, - how do you 'cut and paste' from Linux/Solaris (Pine)?

Christian






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From: "John C. A. Misterio'" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) RE: Mandelbrots and 3DNow!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 18:25:38 +0100

David Ellis wrote:

> Perhaps if someone on this list who speaks German could go poke around C'T
> Magazine's web site and locate their mandelbrot program (and source,
> perhaps).  The English section is very limited and I can't find the program
> they are talkingabout anywhere.  Especially if we can obtain the source
> code that utilizes the 3DNow! code, then we will now how they manage to
> generate mandelbrots with it.
>
> http://www.heise.de/ct/
>
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I'm trying. Give me some time...

Markus


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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 23 Jun 1998 12:33:40 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Christian Strik wrote:
> You once posted you were able to cat the atts.

Yah, to read an attachment, I type v<downarrow>|cat<cr>.  Then I type
eei to get back to the list of messages, or een to get to the next
message.  It's a lot more pain than just reading a message -- to read a
message,  I look at the screen (maybe hit space to page down), and then
hit i or n to move to another message.  I use Pine.

>  I understood you are kind of
> a keyboard freak - :) - just like me although i also use winNT.

Well, I'm typing this on winnt anyway :)

>  So the
> simple cat command wouldn't be so hard, would it? Don't know about Elm.
>
> But i wonder really, - how do you 'cut and paste' from Linux/Solaris (Pine)?

Well, if I were running winfract on my NT machine, I'd highlight the
text in my telnet window, hit return, open notepad, and hit Ctrl-V.  If
I were running Xfractint on my Linux machine, I'd highlight the text in
my mailer with the left button, open an editor, and hit the middle
button.

Kragen


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From: "Faye Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 23 Jun 1998 10:24:29 -0700

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    From: Kim Bach Petersen <[e-mail]>
    To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
    Date: Monday, June 22, 1998 10:49 AM
    Subject: (fractint) par-files
   =20
   =20
    Is there any specific reason (besides tradition) why .PAR files is =
pasted into the email text rather than included as an attachment file? I =
for one would find the latter more convenient.
   =20
    I'm sure a lot of the people with MS would find it much more =
convenient too!
   =20
    Faye

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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 23 Jun 1998 13:35:59 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Faye Williams wrote:
>     From: Kim Bach Petersen <[e-mail]>
>     Is there any specific reason (besides tradition) why .PAR files is
>     pasted into the email text rather than included as an attachment file?
>     I for one would find the latter more convenient.
>
> I'm sure a lot of the people with MS would find it much more convenient too!

While I firmly believe that we ought to support the disabled, I fail to
see the connection between multiple sclerosis and email attachments.
Could you explain it in more detail, please?  :)

Kragen


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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 23 Jun 1998 19:28:20 +0100



>Hmmm
>I've never tried to send an attachement to this list. But this mail shows
me
>that it is impossible to send attachements here. This would not be
something
>new.
>I just think that's a good idea to prevent people from sending attachements
(to
>spam others).
>
>If here is an attachement (a small picture), the listserver allows
attachements
>:
>
>Markus
>


Markus. I think your attachment did not have to be sent. There are others on
the list who send atts (like mctupper).

Further: **********IF********** attachments are sent,
***********DON'T************** send binaries. I'm not saying this for
myself, but for the list.

No offense.

Christian




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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) RE: Mandelbrots and 3DNow!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 18:49:12 +0100

>Perhaps if someone on this list who speaks German could go poke around C'T
>Magazine's web site and locate their mandelbrot program (and source,
>perhaps).  The English section is very limited and I can't find the program
>they are talkingabout anywhere.  Especially if we can obtain the source
>code that utilizes the 3DNow! code, then we will now how they manage to
>generate mandelbrots with it.
>
>http://www.heise.de/ct/
>


I tried the http and ftp site, but couldn't find it. On the http site, the
subject was listed in volume 98/12, but there was no link.

Christian




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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 19:17:42 +0100

A few comments:

>My thanks to you Christian for your attempt to help me find an MS-DOS
>solution but an MS-DOS window using F8 then 6 or shutdown and restart in
>MS-DOS mode only gets you to a command prompt.

Yes. But that's the goal, not? Sorry, but i can't see the problem then.

>I have OSR2 on my present
>system (Second release of Windows 95). I once had a dual operating system
on
>my drive but it is not possible with OSR2.
>If you still have the older
>Windows 95 it will work, but only if you install MS-DOS 6.22 (or other
>version).

As long as you're using fat16, most bootmanagers allow you to use multiple
oses. I myself have msdos6.00, msdos7.00 and msdos7.10 on one drive, from
which i also boot nt and linux. Works perfectI find dos 7.5 a strange name,
for win98 comes with 7.1... [note: i have msdos7.10 from win98, but i
haven't installed the win98 gui].

>First, copy the dos dir to another dir, install Windows 95 to a
>different dir than Windows 3.1 or 3.11 Windows for Workgroups, edit the MS
>Dos.sys file from the Windows 95 side (boot to Windows 95) add under
options
>'BootMulti=1' and 'BootMenu=1'. Delete the dos dir and copy the contents of
>the saved dos back to the original dos dir renaming 5 files that end in
.exe
>to .old and that is it. Two fully independent os's working on the same
>machine. The reason why OSR2 won't work with this setup is that it has a
>certain capabilities that the Windows 95 or DOS os's don't have. DOS has a
2
>Gb partition limitation.

This is with fat16, not? I don't know for sure, but i believe the 2GB limit
is only set to 2TB if you use fat32. This of course conflicts with older dos
versions.

>Windows 95 was released with DOS 7.5. Windows 95
>sat atop of this DOS 7.5 so it too had this 2 GB limitation. OSR2 is it's
>own os. NO DOS. This os allows one drive to be partitioned at nearly any
>size. For instance, my drive C is 8 Gb. When you goto fdisk (set up
>partitions) with OSR2 it asks if you want to enable large disk support.
This
>8 Gb partition (drive c) is not recognized by any version of DOS or
previous
>versions of Windows 95.

So fat32. I think the problem isn't so much osr2-related, more
fat32-related. If you'd use fat16 instead, everything would work the normal
way. By the way, don't you think 8 GB is a bit *too* much for one partition?

>If I boot to a floppy,  drive c does not even show
>up!! When I drop to a command prompt (it says ms-dos prompt because it
>emulates a dos prompt) it is just that, a command prompt, not MS-Dos. If
you
>type ver at this command prompt you will see it still is Windows 95.

This is normal. The ver command isn't really useful. Command.com replies
this 'Windows 95'. You *are* in command.com though, which should do for
fractint (i hope :) ).

>Fractint and some other programs require MS-DOS version 5.0, 6.0 ,6.1 ,6.2,
>or 6.22 to run properly.

Really tried this? For fractint, i mean? As far as i know conflicts can only
arise if apps write directly (via the bios, i mean, instead of via dos) to
the harddisk.

>The first version of Windows 95 placed atop of
>MS-DOS 7.5 also does not work with some programs. The only way to run
>fractint is to boot to a DOS 6.22 formatted floppy. That is what I have to
>do.
>

In all, i have a rather contradicting view. But i could as well be wrong. I
only once tried fat32, but not long enough to know.

Christian




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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 13:13:58 -0500

Christian,

 - By the way, don't you think 8 GB is a bit *too* much for one partition?

The problem with making big partitions prior to FAT32 was that as you
increased the size of the partition, you increased the size of the
allocation unit--with a 2G partition, space was always allocated to files
in 32K chunks.  That means if your file is only 1K, it still uses 32K, and
if it grows th 33K, it takes up 64K of disk space.

With FAT32, the entire situation changes, because FAT32 allows small
allocation units again.  For an 8G partition, I think it's 4K or 8K
(although I would have to check to make sure).  That makes it completely
reasonable to have a single partition that size, and not have to worry
about partitioning at all.

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Subject: (fractint) RE: win98 GUI?
Date: 23 Jun 1998 15:20:55 EDT

Someone on the list (I forgot to note who) said:

>> i have msdos7.10 from win98, but i
>> haven't installed the win98 gui

I'm wondering how this is possible...

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From: "Paul J. Gellings" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Introductory Fractals Book
Date: 23 Jun 1998 21:26:41 +0200

Hi there,

In several letters in the FractInt list questions were asked about
introductory books on fractals.

In the answers, but also in the Fractint documentation I missed a very good
book (although I may be biased because the author is a Dutchman as I am!)
which gives a general introduction into fractals, with an appendix on
complex numbers and also one with a number of (very) simple BASIC programs
for fractal calculations of a large number of different types.

The book I mean is by Hans Lauwerier, "Fractals : Endlessly repeated
geometrical figures" published in the Princeton Science Library, Princeton
University Press, ASIN: 0691024456 (Amazon.com price $ 13.56).


Here you see the description of this book by Amazon:
Book Description
Fractals are shapes in which an identical motif repeats itself on an
ever diminishing scale. A coastline, for instance, is a fractal, with
each bay or headland having its own smaller bays and headlands--as is a
tree with a trunk that separates into two smaller side branches, which
in their turn separate into side branches that are smaller still. No
longer mathematical curiosities, fractals are now a vital subject of
mathematical study, practical application, and popular interest. For
readers interested in graphic design, computers, and science and
mathematics in general, Hans Lauwerier provides an accessible
introduction to fractals that makes only modest use of mathematical
techniques. Lauwerier calls this volume a "book to work with." Readers
with access to microcomputers can design new figures, as well as
re-create famous examples. They can start with the final chapter, try
out one of the programs described there (preferably in a compiled
version such as TURBO BASIC), and consult the earlier chapters for
whatever is needed to understand the fractals produced in this way. The
first chapter, which builds on the relationship of binary number systems
to the "tree fractal" described above, is the best place to start if one
has no computer. There will be much to enjoy on the way, including the
beautiful color illustrations.

And this descriptions does not say too much!

I hope some of you will like this book as much as I do.

Kindest regards,

Paul J. Gellings





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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 23 Jun 1998 16:23:59 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Christian Strik wrote:
> Further: **********IF********** attachments are sent,
> ***********DON'T************** send binaries. I'm not saying this for
> myself, but for the list.

Why not?  A 4K .gif is similar to a 4K mail message, no?

Kragen


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From: chris landrum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 23 Jun 1998 13:19:11 -0700

If ya'll have icq, (or not but would like to...www.mirabilis.com) might
be helpful to do a chat discussion a couple times a week....

chris

Kragen wrote:
>
> On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Christian Strik wrote:
> > Further: **********IF********** attachments are sent,
> > ***********DON'T************** send binaries. I'm not saying this for
> > myself, but for the list.
>
> Why not?  A 4K .gif is similar to a 4K mail message, no?
>
> Kragen
>
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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 16:26:31 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Damien M. Jones wrote:
> The problem with making big partitions prior to FAT32 was that as you
> increased the size of the partition, you increased the size of the
> allocation unit

There are other problems with having huge partitions (scandisk time,
SPOFs, etc.) but they're off-topic for this list.

Kragen


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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 23 Jun 1998 15:29:19 -0500

Kragen,

 - Why not?  A 4K .gif is similar to a 4K mail message, no?

I've been told that Juno deep-sixes any message that has an attachment.
Not only does the attachment vanish, but the message also.

(Of course, I don't use Juno, so I can't verify this.)

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From: Michael Bell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 22:33:50 +0100

RJ Corradino wrote:
>
> I find this quite confusing.  I do have OSR2 running, and I tried out a ver
> at the command prompt.  It does say Windows 95, not dos.  Neat.
>
> Only weird thing is, Fractint runs fine for me.  Is this just a partitioning
> thing then?  I'm on a 5.2 gig HD...
>
> -RJ
>
> Faye wrote;
> To Christian and Steve,
> I forwarded this message to the computer expert here who set up my computer
> and all the computers for my company.  He's an electronic engineer and a
> computer technician.  He's been working
> on computer for over 18 years from the old teletype in a sound proof room
> through the Apple II, Apple II Plus, Commodore, IBM-PC, 286, 386, 486,
> Pentium, Pentium Pro, Pentium MMX, and finally the Pentium II. He's also
> worked with higher end systems such as SUN, SGI, VME, and SciTech. He's
> worked with MS-DOS versions 5.0, 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 6.22, and 7.5 (released with
> Windows 95). and also other os's such as OS/2, OSR2, Linux, UNIX, and
> Macintosh. He presently owns 7 systems doing highend video, graphics and
> animation.  This is his explanation as to why why I don't have DOS on my
> system.
> My thanks to you Christian for your attempt to help me find an MS-DOS
> solution but an MS-DOS window using F8 then 6 or shutdown and restart in
> MS-DOS mode only gets you to a command prompt. I have OSR2 on my present
> system (Second release of Windows 95). I once had a dual operating system on
> my drive but it is not possible with OSR2. If you still have the older
> Windows 95 it will work, but only if you install MS-DOS 6.22 (or other
> version). First, copy the dos dir to another dir, install Windows 95 to a
> different dir than Windows 3.1 or 3.11 Windows for Workgroups, edit the MS
> Dos.sys file from the Windows 95 side (boot to Windows 95) add under options
> 'BootMulti=1' and 'BootMenu=1'. Delete the dos dir and copy the contents of
> the saved dos back to the original dos dir renaming 5 files that end in .exe
> to .old and that is it. Two fully independent os's working on the same
> machine. The reason why OSR2 won't work with this setup is that it has a
> certain capabilities that the Windows 95 or DOS os's don't have. DOS has a 2
> Gb partition limitation. Windows 95 was released with DOS 7.5. Windows 95
> sat atop of this DOS 7.5 so it too had this 2 GB limitation. OSR2 is it's
> own os. NO DOS. This os allows one drive to be partitioned at nearly any
> size. For instance, my drive C is 8 Gb. When you goto fdisk (set up
> partitions) with OSR2 it asks if you want to enable large disk support. This
> 8 Gb partition (drive c) is not recognized by any version of DOS or previous
> versions of Windows 95. If I boot to a floppy,  drive c does not even show
> up!! When I drop to a command prompt (it says ms-dos prompt because it
> emulates a dos prompt) it is just that, a command prompt, not MS-Dos. If you
> type ver at this command prompt you will see it still is Windows 95 .
> Fractint and some other programs require MS-DOS version 5.0, 6.0 ,6.1 ,6.2,
> or 6.22 to run properly. The first version of Windows 95 placed atop of
> MS-DOS 7.5 also does not work with some programs. The only way to run
> fractint is to boot to a DOS 6.22 formatted floppy. That is what I have to
> do.
>
> Faye
> [e-mail]
>

Hi,

This sounds like rubbish to me (no offence meant) - because I use MS-DOS
all the time,
through the MS-DOS prompt, restart in mode *and* by using F8,6 on
startup.  I am using
OSR2 with a 3.2G drive formatted FAT32.  I have not yet found a single
DOS app that
doesn't like FAT32 or anything else Windowsish about my DOS box/mode.
The only thing
that doesn't work with FAT32 is Drivespace 3 - but that's just
Microsoft's wonderful
software development teams.

Sorry that this is a little off topic...

Michael.

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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 23 Jun 1998 17:32:47 -0400

At 03:29 PM 6/23/1998 -0500, you wrote:
Damien,
>
> - Why not?  A 4K .gif is similar to a 4K mail message, no?
>
>I've been told that Juno deep-sixes any message that has an attachment.
>Not only does the attachment vanish, but the message also.
>
>(Of course, I don't use Juno, so I can't verify this.)

Juno does indeed deep six attachments. I _think_ in the past I have
received basic messages w/o the attachment, but won't swear to it.
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
Back up my hard drive?
How do I put it in reverse?

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From: David Burnett <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Printing large fractals
Date: 24 Jun 1998 07:51:52 +1000

What software can be used for printing large fractals.
I have been using Epson printers since the first week the Stylus series were
released, and can thoroughly recommend them. I use 2560 * 1920 resolution for A4
printing, (which presumes a dithering matrix of 6*6  @ 1440 dpi).
I have recently bought a 1520, which can print up to A2 and banner rolls of A2
width up to 15 meters long, although I thing I would need to refill the ink
cartridges several times to do that.
Now that I want to print on A2 (or larger), the program I have been using
(Halo's Desktop Imager) gives up the ghost (it seems to be limited to 4000*4000
pixel bitmaps. - though it is a rather old version).

So - what software does anyone use to print larger images.
And - does anyone know if 2650 * 1920 is the optimal resolution for A4 on a 1440
dpi printer. (I know epson doesn't really use a dithering matrix, but I have to
start somewhere)

regards David


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From: "Jacco Burger" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Introductory Fractals Book
Date: 24 Jun 1998 00:20:38 +0200

Paul J. Gellings <[e-mail]> wrote:

(introduction snipped)
>The book I mean is by Hans Lauwerier, "Fractals : Endlessly repeated
>geometrical figures" published in the Princeton Science Library, Princeton
>University Press, ASIN: 0691024456 (Amazon.com price $ 13.56).
(description snipped)

For the listmembers from the Netherlands, Belgium and maybe even from South
Africa: off course this book is also available in Dutch. It is called
"Fractals - meetkundige figuren in eindeloze herhaling" , published by
Aramith Uitgevers Amsterdam, ISBN 90 6834 031 x. I don't know the original
price, I bought it at De Slegte (a very big second hand bookshop in The
Netherlands) for only 15 guilders (about 275 BEF).

Anyway, I can confirm it is a very good book. The math never exceeds high
school level (although I can only tell about Dutch high school level). It
even has suggestions about what parts to skip if you are not very much
interested in theory. It also has some real life examples of fractals,
including the artwork of M.C. Escher (a Dutchman as well, by the way). It
even tells how you can make fractals out of paper!

bye for now
Jacco
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From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) to attach or not to attach . . .
Date: 23 Jun 1998 15:29:01 -0700

Hi!  Just got back online after a couple of weeks vacationing with my
brother.  I'm trying to catch up, but it may take awhile!

However, I see all the postings regarding inline text vs. attachments.
This is another one of those issues that has been done to death.  The
past discussions can, of course, be read in the archived files, if
anyone is really interested in the endless exchange and how we got where
we are.  But I've included the final-result-message below.

Basically, the discussions broke down to:

inline text is more convenient for some subscribers
vs
attachments are downright impossible for some subscribers.

Given those two issues, it is fairly obvious that inline text is in and
attachments are out.  Impossible overrides inconvenient every time!

(PS  At one point some of us were including par and frm files as BOTH
attachments and inline text.  That didn't work, because some of the
subscribers use software that will automatically dump a message if there
is an attachment.   As Noel Giffen put it (28 Oct 1997), "Let's remember
that the intention was to post formula and parameter sets that people
can use. ")
Linda
http://www.fractalus.com/gumbycat/index.html (last update 6/5/98)
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/gallery1.html (last update 6/5/98)
http://www.toptown.com/innercircle/gumbycat/index.html (last update
3/20/98)


---------- previous message from our fearless
leader ---------------------------


Ok, I think the mail/html/attachment thread has run it's course. I
don't mind this topic in moderation as it can be helpful to list
readers. If folks want to continue this, just respond to the
individual rather than to the list.

Looks like the consensus is to avoid attachments and HTML in list
messages. If everyone is careful with their mailer settings (wide
enough margin, something like 75 characters or so), both sending and
receiving, it should be possible to avoid scrambling PAR entries.

Tim




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From: "mctupper" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) par-files
Date: 23 Jun 1998 16:39:46 -0600


<stuff snipped>
:: >If here is an attachment (a small picture), the listserver allows
:: attachments
:: >:
:: >
:: >Markus
:: >
::
::
:: Markus. I think your attachment did not have to be sent. There
:: are others on
:: the list who send atts (like mctupper).

Actually I didn't realize that I was sending an attachment. Most of my mail
is sent HTML enriched, but I posted my par file as Plain text. I didn't know
that Outlook 98 added the html anyway. I'm glad I found out.  :)

Mary
OK, who stopped payment on my reality check?


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) RE: win98 GUI?
Date: 23 Jun 1998 21:30:05 EDT

In a message dated 98-06-23 15:27:10 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:

> Someone on the list (I forgot to note who) said:
>
>  >> i have msdos7.10 from win98, but i
>  >> haven't installed the win98 gui
>
>  I'm wondering how this is possible...
>

Since I haven't sunk my teeth into 98, yet (NT rules, for the most part <g>),
I will forward my experience of this in Windoze95.

Simpler than you think, it's simply the dos-level support files (or the entire
\COMMAND\ dir, if you will). With a little foreknowledge, or at least plenty
of time to experiment, you can strip this down to a handful of files. The Win
95 kernel and command.com, plus some memory-handlers and runtimes. That's it.
a  'sys' at the command prompt will indeed return a Windows 95 build.

My Brain Runneth Over with Errata...

Chris

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From: Felix <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 21:13:17 -0500



Michael Bell wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This sounds like rubbish to me (no offence meant) - because I use MS-DOS
> all the time,
> through the MS-DOS prompt, restart in mode *and* by using F8,6 on
> startup.  I am using
> OSR2 with a 3.2G drive formatted FAT32.  I have not yet found a single
> DOS app that
> doesn't like FAT32 or anything else Windowsish about my DOS box/mode.
> The only thing
> that doesn't work with FAT32 is Drivespace 3 - but that's just
> Microsoft's wonderful
> software development teams.
>
> Sorry that this is a little off topic...
>
> Michael.
>

Yep, rubbish.  all of those solutions: F8; restart in DOS; even fixing win95 to
not boot the GUI at startup all work just fine with fractint.

But WHY?!?   Fractint runs *beautifully* fullscreen in win95.  I just have a
shortcut (with screensaver disabled) on my desktop. The only complications happen
when switching back and forth - the current image is trashed.  As long as you save
yr work before swiching all's good. I thought this is how all win95-ers are doing
it...

Am I the exception here?  Do all of you have to reboot just to run fractint?
I had to reboot for some of my older DOS games when I first got win95 (Krondor,
DOTT, etc.)  but by now I've even got those working within windows (memory and
sound card issues.)

  -Andrew

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From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 22:56:44 -0400

Felix wrote:

> Fractint runs *beautifully* fullscreen in win95.  I just have a shortcut (with
> screensaver disabled) on my desktop........ Am I the exception here?

No, you are not! I also found that to be the best way to run Fractint. Simple and
easy. No rebooting, no DOS prompt, no typing of DOS commands! Just a click on a
shortcut. Now it may be marginally slower, but the difference, for me, is negligible.

Gedeon
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Last updated: June 19, 1998
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From: "Earl Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 22:06:40 -0500


-----Original Message-----


>Felix wrote:
>
>> Fractint runs *beautifully* fullscreen in win95.  I just have a shortcut
(with
>> screensaver disabled) on my desktop........ Am I the exception here?
>
>No, you are not! I also found that to be the best way to run Fractint.
Simple and
>easy. No rebooting, no DOS prompt, no typing of DOS commands! Just a click
on a
>shortcut. Now it may be marginally slower, but the difference, for me, is
negligible.
>
>Gedeon
>--


Ditto here  -- a shortcut on the desktop is all I ever use.

Earl


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 23:11:46 EDT

In a message dated 98-06-23 22:21:10 EDT, you write:

<< Am I the exception here?  Do all of you have to reboot just to run
fractint? >>
hi,
I prefer the solidity of fractint in dos. It runs in 95 but not as well for
me.
Rebooting is no problem. I want to run it in dos.
Steve

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From: Ray Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Welcome back, Linda!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 20:16:19 -0700


    Hi Linda, gumbycat

    Every time I check the messages on the list I expect to see something
posted from 'gumbycat' - but lately there has been nothing.  The ol' place
just didn't seem the same.  Now it does.  Welcome home!

                Ray


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From: Ray Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Shortcut to DOS
Date: 23 Jun 1998 21:47:32 -0700


    I use 'shortcut' to DOS to Fractint.  No fuss, no bother, no wasted time -
just Fractinting.

                Ray


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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 23:32:29 +0100



>Christian,
>
> - By the way, don't you think 8 GB is a bit *too* much for one partition?
>
>The problem with making big partitions prior to FAT32 was that as you
>increased the size of the partition, you increased the size of the
>allocation unit--with a 2G partition, space was always allocated to files
>in 32K chunks.  That means if your file is only 1K, it still uses 32K, and
>if it grows th 33K, it takes up 64K of disk space.
>
>With FAT32, the entire situation changes, because FAT32 allows small
>allocation units again.  For an 8G partition, I think it's 4K or 8K
>(although I would have to check to make sure).  That makes it completely
>reasonable to have a single partition that size, and not have to worry
>about partitioning at all.
>
>Damien M. Jones   \\


I know. But i dislike the idea of a one GB fat (may well be exaggerated,
don't know exact figures). Let's say four fat16s of a bit less than 2GB (so
clusters of 32KB) might then save some space, not?

I myself have the opposite, which is really wrong. I have

/dev/hda1 (C) 102MB - Dos6, dos7, 4dos, dos71, win311fw
/dev/hda2 ext
/dev/hda3 (J) 747MB - WinNT + apps
/dev/hda4 (K) 310MB - Games
/dev/hda5 (D) 499MB - Win95 + graphics
/dev/hda6 (E) 401MB - Games
/dev/hda7 (F) 377MB - Personal
/dev/hdd2 ext
/dev/hdd5 (G) 149MB
/dev/hdd6 (H) 6MB
/dev/hdd7 (I) 6MB

The reason for the stupid hdd2 is that my 2.5 GB Quantum Bigfoot crashed
some time ago [so i lost linux]. Shaking it and throwing it out of the
window actually seemed to help, but when the motor finally broke down, my
sledge hammer finished it off. I took an old Seagate to replace it, for i
don't want to reinstall WinNT (on J) yet.

Christian




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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 23 Jun 1998 23:39:46 +0100

>If ya'll have icq, (or not but would like to...www.mirabilis.com) might
>be helpful to do a chat discussion a couple times a week....
>
>chris
>


I sure have ICQ. In May there was something going on about fractal chatting
on IRC and ICQ. So Felix aka Xilef set up an ICQ Group (see below)

This is the list of ICQ members of this list, last updatet Sunday May 3rd,
14:19 GMT+1 (CET).

---

A number of members have posted their ICQ numbers / nicknames on this list
in the last couple of days. I've put them on this list for clarity reasons.
If you're not a member of ICQ yet, and are interested in becoming one, visit
http://www.mirabilis.com, where you can download the software. After having
installed the software, follow the instructions in the program to be
assigned an ICQ number.

Felix aka Xilef has opened the ICQ Fractint Interest Group. This group can
be contacted at
http://groups.icq.com/group.asp?no=28214
This list was last updated Sunday May 3rd, 14:19 GMT+1 (CET).
Added Luis Ricardo Costa & Thaddaeus Parker. Welcome.
Michael Bell - #11379737 - 'Mike' on ICQ Fractint Group
Luis Ricardo Costa - #4111347 - 'Spielberg' on ICQ Fractint Group
Paul Derbyshire - #10423848 - 'Kydaimon' on ICQ Fractint Group
Andrew Duhan / Felix - #10363110 - 'Xilef' on ICQ Fractint Group (Master)
Alex Dukay - #8515817
Jon Fetting - #4024153
David Forbus - #2512475
Blake Hyde - #5411598
Ralph Jones - #11903613
Paul Lee - #8804332
Bob Margolis - #11924047
IrΘnΘe Mercier - #7217822
Nhan Nguyen - #341018
Thaddaeus Parker - #3304633 - 'FractalMan' on ICQ Fractint Group
Christian Strik - #11760568 - 'Meltdown' on ICQ Fractint Group
Angela Wilczynski (Wizzle) - #503044 / #1205072
I selected names and numbers by looking at mail subjects. I'm not suggesting
this list is complete...
Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been listed
here (my fault then), please mail. You can also mail if you're a new member
of the ICQ Fractint Group (see above). This saves me some time finding out
names and numbers. :-)
Thanx in advance,
Christian Strik

---

Christian

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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) RE: win98 GUI?
Date: 23 Jun 1998 23:16:25 +0100



>Someone on the list (I forgot to note who) said:
>
>>> i have msdos7.10 from win98, but i
>>> haven't installed the win98 gui
>
>I'm wondering how this is possible...
>


Simple really. I've copied the windows\command directory to c:\dos71 along
with smartdrv.exe. And then copied io.sys and msdos.sys.

Christian




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From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fwd: Algorithms
Date: 23 Jun 1998 22:08:32 -0700

Kragen wrote:

>>Also, it might be worthwhile to set
up a huge MP machine that can be used to render fractals for Sylvie
Gallet, Wizzle, Gumbycat, et al., while they sit at home running
Fractint on their little DOS boxes.<<

I think there is a compliment in there.  If so, thanks!  You've
certainly placed me in good company!

Linda





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From: "Shauna Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 23 Jun 1998 20:19:18 -1000

On 23 Jun 98 at 21:13, Felix wrote:

> But WHY?!?   Fractint runs *beautifully* fullscreen in
> win95.  I just have a shortcut (with screensaver
> disabled) on my desktop. The only complications happen
> when switching back and forth - the current image is
> trashed.  As long as you save yr work before swiching
> all's good. I thought this is how all win95-ers are
> doing it...

Won't run on ours. It and W95 happily corrupt and crash
each other (fighting over the display). Other Fractint
experts have confirmed that the problem is the display
adaptor and drivers we use (Diamond Stealth64 Series
2000).

That's OK. Runs beautifully under OS/2, where we spend
much more of our time ...

Another blast of bits from David
Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/
Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/
For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:[e-mail]

Random Thought for this Nanosecond
A 3.5 disk should fit in a 5.25 drive, right?



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From: "Nigel H. J. Long" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 24 Jun 1998 08:07:11 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

I run Fractint in a fullscreen session under win95 and it
actually runs 5% -faster- than if I boot from DOS! As
others have reported there is a problem switching (I have a
Diamond Stealth 2000pro).

On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:56:44 -0400 Gedeon Peteri
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Felix wrote:
>
> > Fractint runs *beautifully* fullscreen in win95.  I just have a shortcut (with
> > screensaver disabled) on my desktop........ Am I the exception here?
>
> No, you are not! I also found that to be the best way to run Fractint. Simple and
> easy. No rebooting, no DOS prompt, no typing of DOS commands! Just a click on a
> shortcut. Now it may be marginally slower, but the difference, for me, is negligible.
>
> Gedeon
> --
> ************************************************
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> Member Infinite Fractal Loop
> Last updated: June 19, 1998
> ************************************************
>
>
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 1 par (text)
Date: 24 Jun 1998 03:23:52 EDT


I thought I would send at least one par since everyone else is *discussing*
the issue of text vs. attachments.

Enjoy~

Jim

************************************************************

Sungod_13          { ; 0:02:06.27 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/23/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=manlam(fn||fn) function=cotan/sqr passes=t
  center-mag=3.56742/-5.32907e-015/0.1404496/1/-90 params=-0.2/0/0.5
  float=y maxiter=25 bailoutest=imag inside=bof60 invert=1/0/0
  periodicity=0
  colors=000RRK<8>321<10>eRF<13>LoZJq`KoY<11>`S0<14>xx0545<5>ZWZ<11>KKNIJM\
  HILFHKILO<2>RW`<13>F5EE3CG3D<6>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6\
  FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<10>3nn3rr5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z9\
  0x87<3>m3bj1jf1f<10>000<15>0f0<2>Cj0664<5>efW<4>TUM
  }


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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 24 Jun 1998 05:54:04 -0400

At 09:13 PM 6/23/1998 -0500, you wrote:

(snippeed)

>Am I the exception here?  Do all of you have to reboot just to run fractint?
>  -Andrew

(snipped)

I have never rebooted to run fractint under Win95 - I use the MS DOS prompt
and have never had a problem...

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
Back up my hard drive?
How do I put it in reverse?

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From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 1 par (text)
Date: 24 Jun 1998 08:11:53 -0400

Hi Jim,

>> I thought I would send at least one par since everyone else is
>> *discussing* the issue of text vs. attachments.

  I was about to forget what does a fractal-related posting without any
HTML attachment look like... :-)

  Very nice image, Jim!  Thanks!

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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From: chris landrum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 24 Jun 1998 06:22:26 -0700

Chris Landrum  11989523

Christian Strik wrote:
> =

> >If ya'll have icq, (or not but would like to...www.mirabilis.com) migh=
t
> >be helpful to do a chat discussion a couple times a week....
> >
> >chris
> >
> =

> I sure have ICQ. In May there was something going on about fractal chat=
ting
> on IRC and ICQ. So Felix aka Xilef set up an ICQ Group (see below)
> =

> This is the list of ICQ members of this list, last updatet Sunday May 3=
rd,
> 14:19 GMT+1 (CET).
> =

> ---
> =

> A number of members have posted their ICQ numbers / nicknames on this l=
ist
> in the last couple of days. I've put them on this list for clarity reas=
ons.
> If you're not a member of ICQ yet, and are interested in becoming one, =
visit
> http://www.mirabilis.com, where you can download the software. After ha=
ving
> installed the software, follow the instructions in the program to be
> assigned an ICQ number.
> =

> Felix aka Xilef has opened the ICQ Fractint Interest Group. This group =
can
> be contacted at
> http://groups.icq.com/group.asp?no=3D28214
> This list was last updated Sunday May 3rd, 14:19 GMT+1 (CET).
> Added Luis Ricardo Costa & Thaddaeus Parker. Welcome.
> Michael Bell - #11379737 - 'Mike' on ICQ Fractint Group
> Luis Ricardo Costa - #4111347 - 'Spielberg' on ICQ Fractint Group
> Paul Derbyshire - #10423848 - 'Kydaimon' on ICQ Fractint Group
> Andrew Duhan / Felix - #10363110 - 'Xilef' on ICQ Fractint Group (Maste=
r)
> Alex Dukay - #8515817
> Jon Fetting - #4024153
> David Forbus - #2512475
> Blake Hyde - #5411598
> Ralph Jones - #11903613
> Paul Lee - #8804332
> Bob Margolis - #11924047
> Ir=E9n=E9e Mercier - #7217822
> Nhan Nguyen - #341018
> Thaddaeus Parker - #3304633 - 'FractalMan' on ICQ Fractint Group
> Christian Strik - #11760568 - 'Meltdown' on ICQ Fractint Group
> Angela Wilczynski (Wizzle) - #503044 / #1205072
> I selected names and numbers by looking at mail subjects. I'm not sugge=
sting
> this list is complete...
> Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been li=
sted
> here (my fault then), please mail. You can also mail if you're a new me=
mber
> of the ICQ Fractint Group (see above). This saves me some time finding =
out
> names and numbers. :-)
> Thanx in advance,
> Christian Strik
> =

> ---
> =

> Christian
> =

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From: "Art Baker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) par-files
Date: 24 Jun 1998 08:01:59 -0700

Hi Chris,
Here is my ICQ# 265357

ArtBaker

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of chris landrum
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 6:22 AM


Chris Landrum  11989523

Christian Strik wrote:
>
> >If ya'll have icq, (or not but would like to...www.mirabilis.com) might
> >be helpful to do a chat discussion a couple times a week....
> >
> >chris
> >
>
> I sure have ICQ. In May there was something going on about fractal
chatting
> on IRC and ICQ. So Felix aka Xilef set up an ICQ Group (see below)
>
> This is the list of ICQ members of this list, last updatet Sunday May 3rd,
> 14:19 GMT+1 (CET).
>
> ---
>
> A number of members have posted their ICQ numbers / nicknames on this list
> in the last couple of days. I've put them on this list for clarity
reasons.
> If you're not a member of ICQ yet, and are interested in becoming one,
visit
> http://www.mirabilis.com, where you can download the software. After
having
> installed the software, follow the instructions in the program to be
> assigned an ICQ number.
>
> Felix aka Xilef has opened the ICQ Fractint Interest Group. This group can
> be contacted at
> http://groups.icq.com/group.asp?no=28214
> This list was last updated Sunday May 3rd, 14:19 GMT+1 (CET).
> Added Luis Ricardo Costa & Thaddaeus Parker. Welcome.
> Michael Bell - #11379737 - 'Mike' on ICQ Fractint Group
> Luis Ricardo Costa - #4111347 - 'Spielberg' on ICQ Fractint Group
> Paul Derbyshire - #10423848 - 'Kydaimon' on ICQ Fractint Group
> Andrew Duhan / Felix - #10363110 - 'Xilef' on ICQ Fractint Group (Master)
> Alex Dukay - #8515817
> Jon Fetting - #4024153
> David Forbus - #2512475
> Blake Hyde - #5411598
> Ralph Jones - #11903613
> Paul Lee - #8804332
> Bob Margolis - #11924047
> IrΘnΘe Mercier - #7217822
> Nhan Nguyen - #341018
> Thaddaeus Parker - #3304633 - 'FractalMan' on ICQ Fractint Group
> Christian Strik - #11760568 - 'Meltdown' on ICQ Fractint Group
> Angela Wilczynski (Wizzle) - #503044 / #1205072
> I selected names and numbers by looking at mail subjects. I'm not
suggesting
> this list is complete...
> Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been
listed
> here (my fault then), please mail. You can also mail if you're a new
member
> of the ICQ Fractint Group (see above). This saves me some time finding out
> names and numbers. :-)
> Thanx in advance,
> Christian Strik
>
> ---
>
> Christian
>
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From: "Jacco Burger" <[e-mail]>
Subject: ICQ (was Re: (fractint) par-files)
Date: 24 Jun 1998 18:54:43 +0200

Christian Strik <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been listed
>here (my fault then), please mail.

My ICQ # is 5848993

C U on ICQ
Jacco
e-mail [e-mail]
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From: "John Wilson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) par-files
Date: 24 Jun 1998 10:30:51 -0700

-----Original Message-----

>Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been listed
>here (my fault then), please mail. You can also mail if you're a new member
>of the ICQ Fractint Group (see above). This saves me some time finding out
>names and numbers.

Hi, this lurkers number is 14386215.   :-)

John.



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From: "John C. A. Misterio'" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ICQ (was Re: (fractint) par-files)
Date: 24 Jun 1998 19:23:58 +0100

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Jacco Burger wrote:

> Christian Strik <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been listed
> >here (my fault then), please mail.
>
> My ICQ # is 5848993

Cool. My # is 13157125
Perhaps I'll contact you soon...

Ciao
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From: [e-mail] (Dr I D Entwistle)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Introductory Fractals Book
Date: 23 Jun 1998 22:26:06

On Tue 23 Jun 98 (21:26:41 +0200), [e-mail] wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> In several letters in the FractInt list questions were asked about
> introductory books on fractals.
>
> In the answers, but also in the Fractint documentation I missed a very
> good book (although I may be biased because the author is a Dutchman as
> I am!) which gives a general introduction into fractals, with an
> appendix on complex numbers and also one with a number of (very) simple
> BASIC programs for fractal calculations of a large number of different
> types.
>
> The book I mean is by Hans Lauwerier, "Fractals : Endlessly repeated
> geometrical figures" published in the Princeton Science Library,
> Princeton University Press, ASIN: 0691024456 (Amazon.com price $
> 13.56).
  There is also a Penguin Book edition of this excellent fractal primer
published in 1991 ( ISBN 0-14-014411-0) still readily available  in th UK.
  Ian Entwistle
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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) ICQ Number list - Rev.4
Date: 24 Jun 1998 19:48:10 +0100

A number of members have posted their ICQ numbers / nicknames on this list
in the last couple of days. I've put them on this list for clarity reasons.
If you're not a member of ICQ yet, and are interested in becoming one, visit
http://www.mirabilis.com, where you can download the software. After having
installed the software, follow the instructions in the program to be
assigned an ICQ number.


Felix aka Xilef has opened the ICQ Fractint Interest Group. This group can
be contacted at http://groups.icq.com/group.asp?no=28214

This list was last updated Wednesday June 24th, 19:48 GMT+1 (CET).
Added Chris Landrum, Art Baker, John Wilson, Jacco Burger & John C.A.
Misterio'. Welcome.

Art Baker - #265357
Michael Bell - #11379737 - 'Mike', in ICQ Fractint Group
Jacco Burger - #5848993
Luis Ricardo Costa - #4111347 - 'Spielberg', in ICQ Fractint Group
Paul Derbyshire - #10423848 - 'Kydaimon', in ICQ Fractint Group
Andrew Duhan / Felix - #10363110 - 'Xilef', in ICQ Fractint Group (Master)
Alex Dukay - #8515817
Jon Fetting - #4024153
David Forbus - #2512475
Blake Hyde - #5411598
Ralph Jones - #11903613
Chris Landrum - #11989523
Paul Lee - #8804332
Bob Margolis - #11924047
IrΘnΘe Mercier - #7217822
John C.A. Misterio' - #13157125
Nhan Nguyen - #341018
Thaddaeus Parker - #3304633 - 'FractalMan', in ICQ Fractint Group
Christian Strik - #11760568 - 'Meltdown', in ICQ Fractint Group
Angela Wilczynski (Wizzle) - #503044 / #1205072
John Wilson - #14386215


Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been listed
here (my fault then), please mail. You can also mail if you're a new member
of the ICQ Fractint Group (see above). This saves me some time finding out
names and numbers. :-)

Thanx in advance,

Christian Strik







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From: "Frederik Slijkerman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 24 Jun 1998 19:52:30 +0200

Damien,

> With FAT32, the entire situation changes, because FAT32 allows small
> allocation units again.  For an 8G partition, I think it's 4K or 8K
> (although I would have to check to make sure).  That makes it completely
> reasonable to have a single partition that size, and not have to worry
> about partitioning at all.

But some programs still use 32-bit integers to store or retrieve the
free or total space on a hard disk, so it makes sense to keep your
partitions under 2GB, if you don't want to see messages like "2MB needed
to install, -283MB free). :)

Regards,
Frederik.


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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) OSR2, FAT32, and hard drive partitions
Date: 24 Jun 1998 14:09:09 -0500

Frederik,

 - But some programs still use 32-bit integers to store or retrieve the
 - free or total space on a hard disk, so it makes sense to keep your
 - partitions under 2GB, if you don't want to see messages like "2MB needed
 - to install, -283MB free).

Unless you have less than 2G free anyway. :-)  Partitioning is really a
kludge.  What you want is to be able to use your hard drive to store data,
without having to decide ahead of time how big the various compartments in
it need to be.

The FAT size is bigger for FAT32, yes, so you lose some space there.  But
my C drive, which is 1.2G, has 7900 files on it.  With FAT16, I'd waste on
average 16K for each file.  That works out to be 126 *megs* of wasted
space.  With FAT32, each file wastes only 2K on average, resulting in less
than 16M of wasted space.  That's a savings of over 100M, and there's no
way the FAT in FAT32 is 100M. :-)

IMO, FAT32 was long overdue.  It's not really any less safe than FAT16,
it's more efficient at using hard drive space, so why do people get so hung
up about having a lot of partitions?  I think it's because you're *used* to
having partitions, and having one big filing cabinet scares you. :-)

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs)
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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From: Michelle Zulli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DOS on a floppy??  YES!
Date: 24 Jun 1998 15:26:17 -0400

Felix wrote:

[snip]

> Am I the exception here?  Do all of you have to reboot just to run fractint?
> I had to reboot for some of my older DOS games when I first got win95 (Krondor,
> DOTT, etc.)  but by now I've even got those working within windows (memory and
> sound card issues.)

I also have not had any problem running Fractint on Windows 95.  No
rebooting necessary.  The image is trashed if I try to toggle between
windows, so I don't.  It hadn't occurred to me to try until I subscribed
to this list.  I like to watch my fractals get born and it seldom takes
so long that I feel I should be occupying myself with another
application.

I think I'll have to start sleeping a lot less to get maximum benefit
and enjoyment from this list.  I just can't keep up!  <g>

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From: chris landrum <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) (no subject)
Date: 24 Jun 1998 13:02:36 -0700

Chris Landrum icq# 11989523

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From: Trevor Fast <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) partobat
Date: 24 Jun 1998 16:38:00 -0500


Thank you to those of you who helped me figure out why my batch files
created with partobat weren't working.  I simply needed to move the
batches from my par folder to the directory containing my fractint
executable.  I'm churning out lots of wonderful images now while I sleep!
 Thanks everyone.

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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) OSR2, FAT32, and hard drive partitions
Date: 24 Jun 1998 22:38:17 +0100

Damien wrote:

>IMO, FAT32 was long overdue.  It's not really any less safe than FAT16,
>it's more efficient at using hard drive space, so why do people get so hung
>up about having a lot of partitions?  I think it's because you're *used* to
>having partitions, and having one big filing cabinet scares you. :-)
>
>Damien M. Jones

Maybe you're right :)

Anyway, i just don't use fat32 cause it isn't compatible with my NT and
win311.

Christian




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From: Trevor Fast <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) partobat
Date: 24 Jun 1998 16:38:00 -0500


Thank you to those of you who helped me figure out why my batch files
created with partobat weren't working.  I simply needed to move the
batches from my par folder to the directory containing my fractint
executable.  I'm churning out lots of wonderful images now while I sleep!
 Thanks everyone.

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From: Peter Jakubowicz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal World
Date: 24 Jun 1998 18:02:52 -0400

Hi,
Does anyone know if such a thing as a criswell structure exists
(theoretically or tangibly)? It is a sort of improvement on a Dyson sphere
that happens to house the Fractal World in David Brin's Heaven's Reach.




Fractals seen at
http://home.earthlink.net/~pfjakub/
http://members.xoom.com/pfjakub/

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From: Ian Kaplan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fwd: Algorithms
Date: 23 Jun 1998 09:38:56 -0400 (EDT)

Kragen wrote:

> It would be worthwhile to enhance fractint to support MPI or PVM,
> methinks.

Might as well work from the nice, clean XWindows source for this- I don't
think anyone will want the DOS features on a massively-parallel box! I
imagine that our original messager has considerable experience doing
ports to his box; given the source code, he might want to undertake the
project...


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From: "mctupper" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Mandelbrot Fleur par
Date: 24 Jun 1998 17:31:36 -0600

I recently had my access to the internet cut off for 36 hours, so I had
plenty of time to play with Fractint. I was trying to explain to my roommate
WHY I like this program, and why I and others spend hours generating pretty
pictures.

Personally, I do it for Exploration. I love starting with someone else par
and then zooming in/out and moving around just to see what's there. Some
people like to Train Fractals, by making formulas that force the fractals to
do what they want them to do. Others like to Color fractals. Give them a
image and they will find the perfect colors to bring out all the beauty in a
fractal.

I'm sure that most people probably start as Explorers, and then become
either Trainers or Colorers, or maybe even both. Whatever the reason for it,
Fractinters (people who play with fractals) seem to enjoy the long hours of
waiting for glorious beauty to unfold in front of their eyes.

Below is my latest discovery. Based on a par from the May postings of
RParracho.

============================================
Mariah2   { ;               (c) Mary Tupper
                     ; Mandelbrot Fleur from RParracho version of
                     ; Mutant of "butterfly" by Paul W. Carlson
                     ; Using Newt_Fang_Mset
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm
  formulaname=newt_fang_mset function=sin/sqr passes=t
  center-mag=-4.70801/-2.46347/2.087586/1.1481/-90
  params=0.65/0/12/12/8/30 float=y maxiter=253 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGG\
  z<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<13>000 orbitdelay=25
  }
======================================================

I live in another Dimension. I just have a summer home in Reality.

OK, who stopped payment on my reality check?


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From: Andrew Schoonmaker <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ICQ (was Re: (fractint) par-files)
Date: 24 Jun 1998 22:47:23 -0700

>Christian Strik <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been listed
>>here (my fault then), please mail.

I just lurk, but my # and nick are 2840835 and Neon Elephant, respectively.

 -Andrew ()

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On the other hand, you have different fingers.

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From: "Shauna Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) OSR2, FAT32, and hard drive partitions
Date: 24 Jun 1998 23:02:46 -1000

Actually a friend of ours migrated from a FAT16 W95
installation to a FAT32 W95b installation. He reported
that under FAT32 drive access speed and transfer speed
went down 10-15%.

I'm still miffed that W95 doesn't support the NTFS format
... Far more efficient with disk space than FAT32 ...
But, hey this is Microsoft we're talking about! <G>

On 24 Jun 98 at 14:09, Damien M. Jones wrote:

> The FAT size is bigger for FAT32, yes, so you lose
> some space there.  But my C drive, which is 1.2G, has
> 7900 files on it.  With FAT16, I'd waste on average 16K
> for each file.  That works out to be 126 *megs* of
> wasted space.  With FAT32, each file wastes only 2K on
> average, resulting in less than 16M of wasted space.
> That's a savings of over 100M, and there's no way the
> FAT in FAT32 is 100M. :-)

And in NTFS, each file would waste 256 *bytes* at most!

Another blast of bits from David
Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/
Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/
For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:[e-mail]

Random Thought for this Nanosecond
(A)bort (R)etry (P)retend this never happened . . .



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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) par (wood_grain)
Date: 25 Jun 1998 07:32:13 -0400

<fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param><bigger>mctupper very recently
posted: Mandelbrot Fleur par. As I had a bit of time today I thought I
would take another swing through a couple of pars since I am never going
to catch up. (It was recently suggest to me that I use partobat; this is
one of the reasons why I don't.) After bringing up the above par I
started tinkering with the parameters in the frm, zooming around here and
there, and coming up with the following:


===================================================================>


Wood_grain         { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Jun 25, 1998 t=0:01:07.88

                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768

                     ; color map: dav35

                     ; Using Newt_Fang_Mset by Paul Carlson

  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm

  formulaname=newt_fang_mset function=tan/cotan passes=t

  center-mag=-1.77091/0.000109518/4.783259/1.1182/90

  params=10/0/0.5/1/8/30 float=y maxiter=253 inside=253 outside=summ


colors=000<<29>000MC7<<6>yhW<<14>A20000<<17>000E0G<<12>eGigIliJnlLqlLq<<19>lBh\

  c9Zc9_E0G<<8>O6R000<<69>000A20<<10>yhW<<22>A20000<<25>000
orbitdelay=25

  }


frm:Newt_Fang_Mset {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998

    ; real(p1) = controls element size try 0.5 to 16

    ; imag(p1)   not used

    ; p2       = factor, try (1,0) or (0.3,0.3)

    ; real(p3) = number of color ranges

    ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range

    ;

    width = real(p1)

    a = fn1(pixel)

    am = a - 1

    w = sqrt(-am / 6)

    z = iter = range_num = bailout = 0

    num_ranges = real(p3)

    colors_in_range = imag(p3)

    index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / width

    prev_mod2 = |w|

    :

    k = w * w, q = w * am

    w = w - (k * k + k * am - a) / (4 * w * k + q + q)

    angle = atan(imag(w) / real(w))

    v = p2 * (fn1(angle)^2 + fn2(angle)^2)

    dist = abs(|w| - |v|)

    IF (dist << width && iter > 0)

        bailout = 1

     z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1

    ELSEIF (abs(|w| - prev_mod2) << 0.000001)

     bailout = 1

     z = 252

    ENDIF

    prev_mod2 = |w|

    range_num = range_num + 1

    IF (range_num == num_ranges)

        range_num = 0

    ENDIF

    iter = iter + 1

    z = z - iter

    bailout == 0 && |w| << 10000000

}

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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) OSR2, FAT32, and hard drive partitions
Date: 25 Jun 1998 11:21:23 -0400 (EDT)

On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Shauna Jones wrote:
> I'm still miffed that W95 doesn't support the NTFS format
> ... Far more efficient with disk space than FAT32 ...
> But, hey this is Microsoft we're talking about! <G>
> And in NTFS, each file would waste 256 *bytes* at most!

Same in ext2fs, and it's likely that a lot more Win95 users have Linux
on their disks already than NT.  There's a read-only ext2fs driver
for Win95 already; it's not read/write yet.

And, of course, since it's Linux, you can do something about it -- with
NTFS, you're out of luck.

Kragen


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From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) let's post some fractals!
Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:16:56 -0700

Another gravijul jewel!  Enjoy!
Linda
http://www.fractalus.com/gumbycat/index.html (last update 6/5/98)
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/gallery1.html (last update 6/25/98)
http://www.toptown.com/innercircle/gumbycat/index.html (last update
3/20/98)

   --------cut here--------

pale-crest         { ; copyright Linda Allison created May 21, 1998
                     ; [e-mail]
                     ; calc time   0:01:45.02 on P166
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=gravijul_2u function=cabs/atanh/tan/atanh passes=1
  center-mag=-0.00417642/0.0179063/0.8651436/0.9059/-90
  params=1.5/-0.8/0.05/-0.025/0/2.9 float=y maxiter=300 inside=bof61
  outside=atan invert=-1/0/0 decomp=256 periodicity=0
  viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0

colors=wwwE2B<13>H2AH2AI19J19<11>W43X42Y41_50a50<4>kA0mB0mC0<7>tM4uO5vP5
\

wR6wQ6<5>rG5qF4pD4oB3mA3<4>c51a40_40X40<8>811502301000<13>ehlhkoilokmp<1
\

2>SNCQL9PJ7QK6<14>xn_<14>RL7<14>vvv<12>YYYWWWTTT<3>B99633422211000<14>T0
\
  1V02W12X22<7>hB1jD0kE1<10>vTDxVFwTE<5>lG4jD2hC2<5>X31V10U10<13>G1A
  }

frm:gravijul_2u { ; Variation of gravijul formula - PD 3/98
     ; Original formula by Mark Christenson
  bailout = imag(p3), k = real(p3)
  z = abs(pixel):
  x = real(z), y = imag(z)
  w = fn1(x) + k*y, v = fn1(y) + k*x
  u = fn2(w + flip(v))
  z = fn4(p1/fn3(u*u)) + p2
  |z| < bailout
}





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From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) fractal/Spanish/need help
Date: 25 Jun 1998 15:05:46 -0700

Hi, y'all!

I think this is on topic - But I'm not certain.  This message arrived
while I was on vacation.

--------------

Gracias
 Thanks

 Billones de billones de olas chocaron en las piedras para crear
una playa.
 Miles de hojas de palma cayeron al suelo para crear el tallo de
una plamera

 Thanks for your fractals.

 Mother Nature make fractals every day and day, ad eternum.
 Look for five beak star of Pitßgoras. In these program he
include the factor 1,68...
 I want to know about.
 Please send me information

    Rogelio Palomo

----------------

I'm lost.  I think the writer wants help with making fractals, but I'm
not certain, and I don't know how best to answer.

If you are fluent in Spanish, and you are willing to write to this
person, please let me know!

I appreciate your consideration!
Linda
http://www.fractalus.com/gumbycat/index.html (last update 6/5/98)
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/gallery1.html (last update 6/5/98)
http://www.toptown.com/innercircle/gumbycat/index.html (last update
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Subject: Re: (fractint) fractal/Spanish/need help
Date: 25 Jun 1998 17:32:11 -0500

Mike and Linda Allison wrote:
>
>  Billones de billones de olas chocaron en las piedras
>  para crear una playa.
>  Miles de hojas de palma cayeron al suelo para crear
>  el tallo de una plamera
>
>     Rogelio Palomo
>

Trillions of trillions of waves hit in stones to create a beach.
Thousands of palm leaves fell to the ground to create the stem of a
plamera


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From: John W. Evans <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) icq
Date: 25 Jun 1998 23:53:22 GMT

>Christian Strik <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been listed
>>here (my fault then), please mail.

Another lurker and icq newbie # 14618659 nick violet

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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) EDN compression article
Date: 25 Jun 1998 19:03:43 -0400

The June 18th issue of Electronic Design News has a good article on
fractal compression.  It is reproduced on the web at:

http://www.ednmag.com/reg/1998/061898/13df_01.cfm

It also has an addendum with some fractint images of mine at:

http://www.ednmag.com/reg/1998/061898/wavefrc.cfm.

You may have to register with EDN Access off the home page to see the lat=
ter
(although I didn't have to); you can also get to the former via the 'curr=
ent
issue' link on their home page.

Lee Skinner

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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) let's post some fractals!
Date: 25 Jun 1998 18:23:11 -0500 (CDT)

Hi Linda!

>Another gravijul jewel!  Enjoy!

Enjoy for sure - you haven't lost your touch!

Paul Carlson


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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) par: (Dryad's_Sanctuary)
Date: 25 Jun 1998 19:32:04 -0400

To go with "Wood-Grain):


=================================================================================>


<bigger>Dryad's_Sanctuary  { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Jun 25, 1998
t=0:00:42.46

                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768

                     ; color map: dav35

                     ; Using Newt_Fang_Mset by Paul Carlson

  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm

  formulaname=newt_fang_mset function=tan/cotan passes=t


center-mag=-1.57769592575004000/-0.00007773733605232/133.7002/1.1182/90

  params=10/0/0.5/1/8/30 float=y maxiter=253 inside=253 outside=summ


colors=000<<28>000MC7<<6>yhW<<14>A20000<<17>000E0G<<10>aEdcFgeGigIliJnlLq<<20>\

  lBhc9Zc9_E0G<<8>O6R000<<69>000A20<<10>yhW<<22>A20000<<26>000

  orbitdelay=25

  }

</bigger>

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From: Felix <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) OSR2, FAT32, and hard drive partitions
Date: 25 Jun 1998 18:46:00 -0500

Amen, brother.

(preach on.)

-andrew

Kragen wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Shauna Jones wrote:
> > I'm still miffed that W95 doesn't support the NTFS format
> > ... Far more efficient with disk space than FAT32 ...
> > But, hey this is Microsoft we're talking about! <G>
> > And in NTFS, each file would waste 256 *bytes* at most!
>
> Same in ext2fs, and it's likely that a lot more Win95 users have Linux
> on their disks already than NT.  There's a read-only ext2fs driver
> for Win95 already; it's not read/write yet.
>
> And, of course, since it's Linux, you can do something about it -- with
> NTFS, you're out of luck.
>
> Kragen
>
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From: "Jan-erik Erikkson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal Animator
Date: 25 Jun 1998 17:02:19 PDT

Does anybody out there know where I can get a copy of the old Fractal
Animator command line program that outputs a batch file for a series of
images starting and ending with GIF files. I lost it when I lost my
computer, and now Fractint has moved on and does not include fa.zip

Cheers
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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal Animator
Date: 25 Jun 1998 19:34:56 -0500

Jan-erik Erikkson wrote:
>
> Does anybody out there know where I can get a copy of
> the old Fractal Animator command line program that
> outputs a batch file for a series of images starting
> and ending with GIF files.  I lost it when I lost my
> computer, and now Fractint has moved on and does not
> include fa.zip
>

You might try the following:

   http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/IBMPC/FAE.TXT

   http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/IBMPC/FAE210B.ZIP


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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) Improved 4-in-1 Mset Formula
Date: 25 Jun 1998 20:29:47 -0500 (CDT)

comment {
This formula is an improved version of my Four_Mandels formula.
The improvement is that this version allows passes=t, which can
result in quite a speedup when there are significant areas of
high iteration counts (like baby 'Brots).  As in the earlier
version, the images can not be interrupted with any keystrokes
except for possibly the Tab key.

The two pars included are the same (except for a small change
in the colors) as the first two pars included with the original
formula.

I know that I've made an indecently long formula even longer,
but I think it was worth it.  Comments welcome.

Paul Carlson
}

frm:Four_In_One_Mset {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
              ; This version allows passes=t
              ; Zooming added by Sylvie Gallet, 6/7/98
    ; real(p1) = size factor, upper left  quadrant
    ; imag(p1) = size factor, upper right quadrant
    ; real(p2) = size factor, lower left  quadrant
    ; imag(p2) = size factor, lower right quadrant
    ;
    prev_w = z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0
    w1 = w2 = w3 = w4 = 0
    px = real(scrnpix), py = imag(scrnpix)
    hmx = 0.5 * real(scrnmax)
    hmy = 0.5 * imag(scrnmax)
    IF ((px < 2) || (px > (real(scrnmax) - 3)) || \
    (py < 2) || (py > (imag(scrnmax) - 3))  || \
       ((px > hmx - 2) && (px < hmx + 1))      || \
       ((py > hmy - 2) && (py < hmy + 1)))
    IF ((px > hmx - 2) && (px < hmx + 1) && \
        (py > hmy - 2) && (py < hmy + 1))
        z = 251
    ELSE
        z = 252
    ENDIF
    bailout = 1
    IF (px == 0 && py == 0)
        z0 = pixel
    ENDIF
    IF (px == 1 && py == 0)
        delta_x = real(scrnmax) * (pixel - z0)
    ENDIF
    IF (px == 0 && py == 1)
        delta_y = imag(scrnmax) * (pixel - z0)
    ENDIF
    ENDIF
    IF (bailout == 0)
    IF (px < hmx)
        IF (py > hmy)
        c = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0) - delta_y
        size = real(p2)
        a1 = 0.6, b1 = 0.3, a2 = 0.2, b2 = 0.4
        quad = 3
        ELSE
        c = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0)
        size = real(p1)
        rad = 0.5
        quad = 1
        ENDIF
    ELSEIF (py > hmy)
        c = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0) - delta_x - delta_y
        size = imag(p2)
        k = 0.5 + size
        j = 0.5 - size
        quad = 4
    ELSE
        c = z0 + 2 * (pixel - z0) - delta_x
        size = imag(p1)
        quad = 2
    ENDIF
    index_factor = 29 / size
    ENDIF
    :
    IF (bailout == 0)
    IF (quad == 1)
        w1 = w1 * w1 + c
        w = w1
        ang = atan(imag(w1) / real(w1))
        astroid = rad * (cos(ang)^3 + (0,1) * sin(ang)^3)
        dist = abs(|w1| - |astroid|)
    ELSEIF (quad == 2)
        w2 = w2 * w2 + c
        w = w2
        dist = abs(|w2| - .25)
    ELSEIF (quad == 3)
        w3 = w3 * w3 + c
        w = w3
        ang = atan(imag(w3) / real(w3))
        ell1 = a1 * cos(ang) + (0,1) * b1 * sin(ang)
        dist1 = abs(cabs(w3) - cabs(ell1))
        ell2 = b2 * cos(ang) + (0,1) * a2 * sin(ang)
        dist2 = abs(cabs(w3) - cabs(ell2))
        IF (dist1 < dist2)
        dist = dist1
        ELSE
        dist = dist2
        ENDIF
    ELSEIF (quad == 4)
        w4 = w4 * w4 + c
        w = w4
        awr = abs(real(w4)), awi = abs(imag(w4))
        IF ((awr < k) && (awr > j) && \
        (awi < k) && (awi > j))
        awr5 = abs(awr - 0.5), awi5 = abs(awi - 0.5)
        IF (awr5 <= awi5)
            dist = awr5
        ELSE
            dist = awi5
        ENDIF
        ELSE
        dist = 1.0e30
        ENDIF
    ENDIF
    ENDIF
    IF (dist < size && iter > 0)
    bailout = 1
    z = index_factor * dist + range_num * 30 + 1
    ENDIF
    range_num = range_num + 1
    IF (range_num == 8)
    range_num = 0
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0 && |w| < 4
}

4mandels_a       { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=4in1mset.par
  formulaname=four_in_one_mset passes=t
  center-mag=-1.99433313611100000/+0.00000000000000000/302955.5
  params=0.06/0.2/0.1/0.3
  float=y maxiter=256 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\
  zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<8>000zzzzzzzzz000000
  cyclerange=1/240
  }

4mandels_b       { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=4in1mset.par
  formulaname=four_in_one_mset passes=t
  center-mag=+0.36126226339583390/+0.09037301461753901/8.827836\
  e+008 params=0.005/0.005/0.008/0.05
  float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\
  zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<8>000zzzzzzzzz000000
  cyclerange=1/240
  }


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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) RE: Mandelbrots and 3DNow!
Date: 25 Jun 1998 21:49:46 -0500

David Ellis wrote:
>
> Perhaps if someone on this list who speaks German could
> go poke around C'T Magazine's web site and locate their
> mandelbrot program (and source, perhaps).  The English
> section is very limited and I can't find the program
> they are talkingabout anywhere.  Especially if we can
> obtain the source code that utilizes the 3DNow! code,
> then we will now how they manage to generate mandelbrots
> with it.
>          http://www.heise.de/ct/
>

Gr÷▀e!!  Wie geht's??

If you use the following website, it will translate any URL's webpage
that you wish to give it:
    http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate?

Or you could just write Andreas Stiller at the following:
    mailto:[e-mail]

Gutes Glⁿck auf Ihrer Suche.  Auf wiedersehen.

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Improved 4-in-1 Mset Formula
Date: 25 Jun 1998 23:20:49 EDT

Just waving a hand out there... anyone remember how to just plot orbits? I'm
interested in tracking simply the orbits of a 4-way mandel brot (quaternary?).
Can you say Doppler Effect? ;)

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From: "Marie Drozdis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: ICQ (was Re: (fractint) par-files)
Date: 26 Jun 1998 00:16:49 -0400

List my ICQ as #13510833
Marie Drozdis

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Andrew Schoonmaker
Sent:    Thursday, June 25, 1998 1:47 AM

>Christian Strik <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been
listed
>>here (my fault then), please mail.

I just lurk, but my # and nick are 2840835 and Neon Elephant, respectively.

 -Andrew ()

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From: "James R. McKenzie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Why not send files as attachments, here's why...
Date: 26 Jun 1998 06:21:27 -0700 (PDT)

First the wording of the header sounds curt I don't mean be curt here.

Alot of epople get e-mail though systems that don't allow any kind of
attachments at all and if they do they may be limited in size or
limited to a short list of pre-approved senders which might have to be
reviewed and authorized by a system administrator who may or may not
be "flexible" about altering the list.  Alot of system
operators/administrators are put in place to be less than flexable on
purpose as a sort of restrictor of risks that can/will be taken.  Also
alot of folks get their e-mail at work too.  recieving "non-corporate"
files at work in these days of "downsizing" might not be such A good
idea and can be held against one in certain cases.

In some cases I've actually heard of e-mail servers that automatically
refuse e-mail with any kind of attachment at all.


These are not nesasarily good reasons but in the mind[s] of corporate
america they are legitimate reasons.



                                         James R. McKenzie



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From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) par and f
Date: 26 Jun 1998 09:45:42 -0700

I think I'm obsessed.  What really concerns me, though, is that I'm just
realizing that now!  :))

All of the "circle" fractals are similar, but have subtle differences
that prevent me from picking a favorite.  I hope you enjoy them all!
Linda

whitecurl          { ; copyright Linda Allison created Jun 25, 1998
                     ; [e-mail]
                     ; calc time   0:00:33.12 on P166
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=gravijul-v1 function=recip/sqrt/log
  center-mag=-0.695049/0.625541/8.89935/1.4193/48.142/-1.28
  params=1.5/-0.01/0.35/-0.334/3/3 float=y maxiter=255 inside=0
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colors=zzzC0J<79>D0LE0MC0J<4>204000011<38>CreDtgDsf<32>122000203<5>F0P<7
\
  >203000111<31>zzz<32>000<6>F0PE0M
  }

summer-snow        { ; copyright Linda Allison created Jun 25, 1998
                     ; [e-mail]
                     ; calc time   0:00:31.47 on P166
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=gravijul-v1 function=log/sqrt/log
  center-mag=-0.00210587/0.00421425/0.7071359/1.3564/-150.466/0.872
  params=2/0.001/-0.033/-1.25/6/6 float=y maxiter=255 inside=0
  decomp=256 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0

colors=iloccc<3>WWWTTTPOO<3>633422211000001<79>F19G2AG2AH2AH2AH2AH2AI19<
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13>33W14Y14_<4>19i0Ak0Bk<10>5Pv6Rw6Qv<14>16c04a04_<12>000<13>ehlhkoilokm
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  p<12>SNCQL9PJ7QK6<14>xn_<14>RL7<14>vvv<8>eee
  }

back2back          { ; copyright Linda Allison created Jun 25, 1998
                     ; [e-mail]
                     ; calc time   0:00:18.24 on P166
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=gravijul-v1 function=log/sqrt/log
  center-mag=-0.00225944/-0.0147976/0.5702286/1.3276/48.142/-1.28
  params=1.95/0.001/-0.05/-1.25/5/-2 float=y maxiter=255 inside=0
  decomp=256 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0

colors=www<2>qM9<2>lG4jD2hC2<5>X31V10U10<13>G1AE2BE2B<79>301000<13>ehlhk
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  633<2>000<14>T01V02W12X22<7>hB1jD0kE1<7>sPA<4>zzz
  }

circle01           { ; copyright Linda Allison created Jun 25, 1998
                     ; [e-mail]
                     ; calc time   0:01:12.28 on P166
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=gravijul-v1 function=log/sqrt/log
  center-mag=0.00480482/0.00138963/0.4701713/1.3819/-150.466/0.872
  params=3/0.001/-0.033/-1/6/6 float=y maxiter=255 inside=0 decomp=256
  viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0

colors=wF0<6>qA0p90n80<5>e20c00d10<12>qA0rB0rD0<5>uR0uT0vW0vZ0<4>yp0zt0z
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4TG3QF2M<10>sB0<3>vN0wQ0wS0wU0<3>yb0ze0ze0<4>zz0<14>sB0sB0rB0<15>c00b00c
\
  10<5>o80qA0qA0<6>wF0
  }


circle02           { ; copyright Linda Allison created Jun 25, 1998
                     ; [e-mail]
                     ; calc time   0:01:12.28 on P166
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=gravijul-v1 function=log/sqrt/log
  center-mag=0.00480482/0.00138963/0.4701713/1.3819/-150.466/0.872
  params=3/0.001/-0.033/-1/6/6 float=y maxiter=255 inside=0 decomp=256
  viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0

colors=b93b93<7>911500000<12>000000011021<12>3CA3CA3B9<15>000000021<2>28
\

62A82A8<108>2A82A9298<6>121000000<19>000500500<26>iB3<8>xeKziMyfL<7>kF5i
\
  B3fA3
  }

circle03           { ; copyright Linda Allison created Jun 25, 1998
                     ; [e-mail]
                     ; calc time   0:00:30.86 on P166
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=gravijul-v1 function=log/sqrt/log
  center-mag=0.00480482/0.00138963/0.4200249/1.3819/-150.466/0.872
  params=2.5/0.001/-0.033/-1/6/6 float=y maxiter=255 inside=0
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colors=b93b93<7>911500000<12>000000011021<12>3CA3CA3B9<15>000000021<2>28
\

62A82A8<108>2A82A9298<6>121000000<19>000500500<26>iB3<8>xeKziMyfL<7>kF5i
\
  B3fA3
  }

circle04           { ; copyright Linda Allison created Jun 25, 1998
                     ; [e-mail]
                     ; calc time   0:00:42.80 on P166
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=gravijul-v1 function=log/sqrt/log
  center-mag=0.00189847/0.00303621/0.964405/1.3819/-150.466/0.872
  params=2.75/0.001/-0.0667/-0.9/6/6 float=y maxiter=255 inside=0
  decomp=256 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0

colors=c`o<3>_YlYXkXVj<19>47S<30>wweyyfxxe<30>1I5<30>cvcexedwe<29>7GK5EJ
\
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  }

circle05           { ; copyright Linda Allison created Jun 25, 1998
                     ; [e-mail]
                     ; calc time   0:01:18.96 on P166
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=gravijul-v1 function=log/sqrt/log
  center-mag=0.00189847/0.00303621/0.964405/1.3819/-150.466/0.872
  params=2.99/0.001/-0.0667/-0.9/6/6 float=y maxiter=255 inside=0
  decomp=256 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0

colors=eeeeee<21>000<6>F0P<6>204000000<31>W00X00W00<31>000<6>F0P<6>20400
\
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  }

circle06           { ; copyright Linda Allison created Jun 25, 1998
                     ; [e-mail]
                     ; calc time   0:01:18.96 on P166
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=gravijul-v1 function=log/sqrt/log
  center-mag=0.00189847/0.00303621/0.964405/1.3819/-150.466/0.872
  params=2.99/0.001/-0.0667/-0.9/6/6 float=y maxiter=255 inside=0
  decomp=256 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0

colors=uRCtQBsOA<3>lG4jD2hC2<5>X31V10U10<13>G1AE2BE2B<45>sN6tN6uO5vP5wR6
\

<8>pD4oB3mA3<4>c51a40_40X40<8>811502301<32>PJ5QK6SM8<13>xn_<14>RL7<14>vv
\

v<12>YYYWWWTTT<3>B99633422211000<14>T01V02W12X22<7>hB1jD0kE1<10>vTDxVFwT
\
  E
  }

frm:gravijul-v1 { ; Variation on Mark Christenson's gravijul
              ; by Sylvie Gallet
   z = pixel^imag(p3) :
   w = fn1(z)
   z = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2
    |z| < p3
  }


http://www.fractalus.com/gumbycat/index.html (last update 6/5/98)
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/gallery1.html (last update 6/25/98)
http://www.toptown.com/innercircle/gumbycat/index.html (last update
3/20/98)




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From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) ICQ Number list - Rev.5
Date: 26 Jun 1998 16:17:23 +0100

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A number of members have posted their ICQ numbers / nicknames on this =
list
in the last couple of days. I've put them on this list for clarity =
reasons.
If you're not a member of ICQ yet, and are interested in becoming one, =
visit
http://www.mirabilis.com, where you can download the software. After =
having
installed the software, follow the instructions in the program to be
assigned an ICQ number.


Felix aka Xilef has opened the ICQ Fractint Interest Group. This group =
can
be contacted at http://groups.icq.com/group.asp?no=3D28214

This list was last updated Friday June 26th, 16:17 GMT+1 (CET).
Added Andrew Schoonmaker, John Evans & Marie Drozdis. Welcome. =20

Art Baker - #265357
Michael Bell - #11379737 - 'Mike', in ICQ Fractint Group
Jacco Burger - #5848993
Luis Ricardo Costa - #4111347 - 'Spielberg', in ICQ Fractint Group
Paul Derbyshire - #10423848 - 'Kydaimon', in ICQ Fractint Group=20
Marie Drozdis - #13510833
Andrew Duhan / Felix - #10363110 - 'Xilef', in ICQ Fractint Group =
(Master)
Alex Dukay - #8515817=20
John Evans - #14618659 - 'Violet'
Jon Fetting - #4024153
David Forbus - #2512475
Blake Hyde - #5411598
Ralph Jones - #11903613
Chris Landrum - #11989523
Paul Lee - #8804332
Bob Margolis - #11924047
Ir=E9n=E9e Mercier - #7217822
John C.A. Misterio' - #13157125
Nhan Nguyen - #341018
Thaddaeus Parker - #3304633 - 'FractalMan', in ICQ Fractint Group
Andrew Schoonmaker - #2840835 - 'Neon Elephant'  =20
Christian Strik - #11760568 - 'Meltdown', in ICQ Fractint Group
Angela Wilczynski (Wizzle) - #503044 / #1205072
John Wilson - #14386215

Count: 25=20

Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been =
listed
here (my fault then), please mail. You can also mail if you're a new =
member
of the ICQ Fractint Group (see above). This saves me some time finding =
out
names and numbers. :-)

Thanx in advance,

Christian Strik =20

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becoming=20
one, visit<BR><A =
href=3D"http://www.mirabilis.com">http://www.mirabilis.com</A>,=20
where you can download the software. After having<BR>installed the =
software,=20
follow the instructions in the program to be<BR>assigned an ICQ=20
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ICQ=20
Fractint Group<BR>Jacco Burger - #5848993<BR>Luis Ricardo Costa - =
#4111347 -=20
'Spielberg', in ICQ Fractint Group<BR>Paul Derbyshire - #10423848 - =
'Kydaimon',=20
in ICQ Fractint Group </DIV>
<DIV>Marie Drozdis - #13510833<BR>Andrew Duhan / Felix - #10363110 - =
'Xilef', in=20
ICQ Fractint Group (Master)<BR>Alex Dukay - #8515817 </DIV>
<DIV>John Evans - #14618659 - 'Violet'<BR>Jon Fetting - =
#4024153<BR>David Forbus=20
- #2512475<BR>Blake Hyde - #5411598<BR>Ralph Jones - #11903613<BR>Chris =
Landrum=20
- #11989523<BR>Paul Lee - #8804332<BR>Bob Margolis -=20
#11924047<BR>Irénée Mercier - #7217822<BR>John C.A. =
Misterio' -=20
#13157125<BR>Nhan Nguyen - #341018<BR>Thaddaeus Parker - #3304633 -=20
'FractalMan', in ICQ Fractint Group<BR>Andrew Schoonmaker - #2840835 - =
'Neon=20
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#14386215<BR><BR>Count: 25 </DIV>
<DIV><BR>Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't =
been=20
listed<BR>here (my fault then), please mail. You can also mail if you're =
a new=20
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finding=20
out<BR>names and numbers. :-)<BR><BR>Thanx in advance,<BR><BR>Christian=20
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From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) par and f
Date: 26 Jun 1998 18:15:17 -0500 (CDT)

Hi Linda!

>I think I'm obsessed.  What really concerns me, though, is that I'm just
>realizing that now!  :))

Everybody's obsessed with something, and what better to be obsessed
with than fractals?

>All of the "circle" fractals are similar, but have subtle differences
>that prevent me from picking a favorite.  I hope you enjoy them all!

They are all exquisite!  I can't pick a favorite either.

Paul Carlson


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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) OSR2, FAT32, and hard drive partitions
Date: 27 Jun 1998 17:24:29 +1200

At 18:46 25/06/98 -0500, andrew wrote:
>
>(preach on.)
>
Only not on this list - can this increasingly off-topic thread end now?

Morgan L. Owens (Not wanting to arrogate)


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 11 pars (OK-12)
Date: 27 Jun 1998 07:12:16 EDT


Here's 11 more images from the overkill.frm......maybe even a couple of nice
ones!

Enjoy~

Jim
**************************************************************************

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                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
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  function=sinh/cos passes=1
  center-mag=-4.44089e-015/-6.21725e-015/0.1760563/1/-90 params=100/0
  float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60 outside=real periodicity=0
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  }

ok12_2702          { ; 0:01:40.57 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
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  function=sinh/cos passes=1
  center-mag=-7.10543e-015/-9.76996e-015/0.4035382/1/-90 params=100/0
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ok12_2703          { ; 0:01:55.29 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-12
  function=sinh/cos passes=1
  center-mag=0.927716/-1.5099e-014/0.4225147/1/-90 params=100/0
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ok12_2704          { ; 0:00:34.55 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-12
  function=cosh/cos passes=1
  center-mag=-4.44089e-015/-5.32907e-015/0.15625/1/-90 params=100/0
  float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60 outside=real periodicity=0
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ok12_2706          { ; 0:01:16.73 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-12
  function=conj/cos passes=1
  center-mag=-8.88178e-016/-1.77636e-015/0.2403846/1/-90 params=100/0
  float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60 outside=real periodicity=0
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ok12_2707          { ; 0:03:46.30 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-12
  function=acosh/cos passes=1
  center-mag=-1.79746/-1.39888e-014/0.5407291/1.2824/-90 params=100/0
  float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60 outside=real periodicity=0
  colors=000TbaTccUee<13>9IE7GB7F88D5<4>AG7132<11>FbYHe`Hd`<12>CPPBNOAMP<6\
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  _TT`RR`RS`ST<14>2Pe<14>HA0<14>ng_<12>IKoFIqEGp<4>98j<13>ujW<2>pfUneTlcSj\
  aR<8>SOIPMHPNI<10>S``
  }

ok12_2709          { ; 0:04:19.91 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=overkill.frm formulaname=OK-12
  function=acosh/cosh passes=1
  center-mag=-1.13307/-6.82787e-015/2.2408/1.1941/-90 params=100/0
  float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60 outside=real periodicity=0
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                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
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  function=cosxx/recip passes=1
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                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
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From: "John C. A. Misterio'" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) ICQ Number list - Rev.5
Date: 27 Jun 1998 09:23:49 +0100

Christian Strik wrote:

> John C.A. Misterio' - #13157125You can also mail if you're a new
> member
> of the ICQ Fractint Group (see above). This saves me some time finding
> out
> names and numbers. :-)

I'm a 'new' member of the group. Name's the same.





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From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal images on silk
Date: 27 Jun 1998 10:52:13 -0500

Greetings Fractalizens;

For those who might be interested in applying their fractal images to
silk, check out how one person does it at Fannies Fractals,
http://www.nurlnet.com/fannie.htm .

Have a nice fractal-designing day.

Bob



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From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Improved 4-in-1 Mset Formula
Date: 26 Jun 1998 23:18:50 -0700

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Amazing, Paul!  I know what a talented mathematician/fractal artist you =
are.  And yet, with every offering, I'm amazed all over again!

Beautiful quadruplets!
Linda

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Subject: (fractint) Banner?
Date: 27 Jun 1998 17:36:18 +0100

I noticed my that my mail 'ICQ Number list - Rev.5' didn't have a Fractint
mailing list banner. Does anyone know why? Just curious :)

Christian




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From: chris landrum <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) help, please
Date: 27 Jun 1998 09:24:14 -0700

*raising hand here* the local dummylurker again.
ok...i'm not totally puter literate (no, duh!)
can someone explain in plain english (step-by-step preferably) how to
view the stuff ya'll send?

if you want, email direct so the group doesn't get totally disgusted
with me ')
chris
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From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) help, please
Date: 27 Jun 1998 18:03:08 -0700

Hi, Chris!  Welcome to THE LIST!

What we are posting are par and frm files.  One of my "Tips and Hints"
pages may help your.  Check:

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/lesson.html

Happy Fractaling!
Linda
-----Original Message-----


>*raising hand here* the local dummylurker again.
>ok...i'm not totally puter literate (no, duh!)
>can someone explain in plain english (step-by-step preferably) how to
>view the stuff ya'll send?
>
>if you want, email direct so the group doesn't get totally disgusted
>with me ')
>chris
>[e-mail]
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 7 pars (mandel(fnIIfn))
Date: 27 Jun 1998 21:31:29 EDT



These were kinda strange looking, as fractals usually are, so I thought the
list might like to have look.   Enjoy~

Jim
***************************************************************************

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                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
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                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
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                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
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                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
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  center-mag=-1.4921/1.06581e-014/0.1179245/1/90 params=0/0/0.5
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  periodicity=0
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                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
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                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) par and f
Date: 27 Jun 1998 21:50:12 -0400

At 09:45 AM 6/26/1998 -0700, you wrote:
>All of the "circle" fractals are similar, but have subtle differences
>that prevent me from picking a favorite.  I hope you enjoy them all!
>Linda

(snipped)

Think I'll vote for circle03 and 04   :)
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PAR Quickie6
Date: 27 Jun 1998 22:31:45 EDT

a quick posting of pars

Caracole           { ; RSP 27JUN98
                     ; uses Jim Muth's formula woven
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_art.frm formulaname=Woven
  passes=b center-mag=2.1471/0/0.6666667 params=4.6/0.707 float=y
  maxiter=256 periodicity=0
  colors=000300700900<3>P30S40X60`70<3>qE0uF0zI0zK0zM0zP0zS0zU0zW0zZ0za0ze\
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  }

Caracole_2         { ; RSP 27JUN98
                     ; uses Jim Muth's formula woven
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  passes=b center-mag=2.46644/0.345826/0.9333287/1/-92.5
  params=5.5/0.707 float=y maxiter=256 periodicity=0
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  }

Dark_Rider         { ; RSP 27JUN98
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf005.frm formulaname=rsp_5060
  center-mag=-0.657277/0.745303/3.875969 params=0/0 float=y
  maxiter=256 symmetry=none periodicity=0
  colors=000000<28>00w00z20z<27>w0zz0zz0x<26>z03z00z20<13>zU0zW0zW0<30>zz0\
  yz0wz0<29>1z0<13>Tz0Vz0Wz0Xz0<29>zz0<10>z00<21>zz0000<3>000
  }

Glass_Eyes         { ; RSP 27JUN98
                     ; USES BUBBLES_JULIA_MSET
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm
  formulaname=bubbles_julia_mset passes=2
  center-mag=0.364193/-0.375018/2.726974/1/37.5
  params=-0.3394/0.6536999999999999/0.2/0.9399999999999999/2/125
  float=y maxiter=10000 outside=summ
  colors=000zzzz0z<40>M0Mz00<40>M00zz0<40>MM00z0<40>0M000z<40>00M0zz<40>0M\
  M000000
  }

Chinese_Jump_Rope  { ; RSP 27JUN98
                     ;
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf004.frm
  formulaname=rsp_4060 passes=b
  center-mag=-0.738654/-0.0187891/1.572699/0.5954/-52.5 params=0.5/0
  float=y maxiter=1000 periodicity=0
  colors=G00<3>H00I00K00L00<4>U00W00Z00`00b00e10<2>k60mA0oE0qI0sO0<2>wg0xm\
  0yr0zw0zy0zz0zy0zw0yr0xm0wg0v`0<2>qI0oE0mA0k60i40g20e10<4>U00S00Q00O00M0\
  0L00K00I00<2>G00G00G00G00G00H00H00<2>L00M00O00Q00<4>`00b00e10g20i40k60mA\
  0oE0qI0sO0<2>wg0xm0yr0zw0zy0zz0zy0zw0yr0xm0wg0v`0<2>qI0oE0mA0k60i40g20e1\
  0<4>U00S00Q00O00M00L00K00I00<2>G00G00G00G00G00H00H00<2>L00M00O00Q00<4>`0\
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  >L00M00O00Q00<4>`00b00e10g20i40k60mA0oE0qI0sO0<2>wg0xm0yr0zw0zy0zz0zy0zw\
  0yr0xm0wg0v`0<2>qI0oE0mA0k60i40g20e10<4>U00S00Q00O00M00L00K00I00<3>G00
  }

frm:rsp_4060    {;RSP 27JUN98
 z=(1,1), c=100*pixel:
 zz=sqr(z),
 f=(4*zz*z-3*z)+c, g=12*zz-3,
 z=z-p1*f/g,
 .0001<|f| }

frm:rsp_5060     {;rsp 27jun98
       r=(1*(|p1|<=0)+p1)
       c=3.1415927,
       z=pixel:
       f=cos(z/2),
       z=z-c*(f-r/(2*sqr(f))),
       .001<|f|}

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From: Ray Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) A Brot?
Date: 27 Jun 1998 22:53:55 -0700


    It's late.  So, here's a par.


Autumn_Brot_Spots  { ; Frima218-021
                     ; 6/27/98
                     ; elmont
                     ; fromFrimA27
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=Jm_03
  function=sin/sqr/sqr/sin
  center-mag=+1.11061482930044400/-0.01424711092325102/37410.03/1/-24.999
  params=1.25/1.25 float=y
  colors=d60<9>rZAcMI<3>eLHzUF<14>d60KKc<11>RguSivTkxUmzUmz<11>NQhMOgLMeKK\
  cU00<14>zbQtXL<14>U00tIZ<13>yTnzUpzUp<14>tIZh00<11>q7Fr8Hs9ItAKtAK<11>k3\
  5j23i12h00nG4<13>yc1ze0ze0<14>nG4KKc<11>RguSivTkxUmzUmz<11>NQhMOgLMeKKcU\
  00<11>nQFpSHrUItXKtXK<12>U000a00Z0
  }

    It's even later now - so, good night.

                    Ray


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 7 more pars(mandel(fnIIfn))
Date: 28 Jun 1998 02:56:04 EDT


I couldn't pull myself away from the mandel(fnIIfn), so here are 7 more
images.  The last one is very different from the others.  I guess it's time to
go pick(on) another fractal type for a spell.<g>  For now,......Enjoy~

Jim
****************************************************************

mnfnch03           { ; 0:01:15.85 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=sqrt/sqr passes=b
  center-mag=-3.00054/1.06581e-014/0.04213483/1/90 params=-0.333/0/0.1
  float=y maxiter=25 bailoutest=manh fillcolor=44 inside=bof60
  invert=1/0/0 periodicity=0
  colors=000433000<3>SRH<14>CV5130<10>Me2<7>XTF432<7>eRM<13>J22H00H00H00L0\
  0<2>_07c3Ag7D<2>qIKtMNvQPxUSyXUz`XzcZzf`yicwlevog<2>mumjwofxpbyr<2>PzvKz\
  wFyx<2>0uy0tz<2>0mz0jz0gy0dy0`x0Yw0Uw<2>0Js0Fr0Bp07n04m00k<4>00`30Z<5>W0\
  K410<13>zR0<5>fU6043<13>7zj<14>EO5<4>DX9<2>SLH752<6>tjM344<7>R`e<14>443<\
  9>joehndflc644<7>ue`<12>865
  }

mnfnch04           { ; 0:01:55.89 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=sqrt/sqr passes=b
  center-mag=3.00501/1.77636e-014/0.046875/1/90 params=-0.333/0/0.333
  float=y maxiter=25 bailoutest=manh inside=bof60 invert=1/0/0
  periodicity=0
  colors=0007ue<12>EO5<4>DX9<2>SLH752<6>tjM344<7>R`e<14>443<9>joehndflc644\
  <7>ue`<14>000<3>SRH<14>CV5130<10>Me2<7>XTF432<7>eRM<13>J22H00H00H00L00<2\
  >_07c3Ag7D<2>qIKtMNvQPxUSyXUz`XzcZzf`yicwlevog<2>mumjwofxpbyr<2>PzvKzwFy\
  x<2>0uy0tz<2>0mz0jz0gy0dy0`x0Yw0Uw<2>0Js0Fr0Bp07n04m00k<4>00`30Z<5>W0K41\
  0<13>zR0<5>fU6043<13>7zj7xh
  }

mnfnch06           { ; 0:05:36.51 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=sqrt/sqr passes=b
  center-mag=0/0/0.03/1/90 params=-0.333/0/0.606 float=y maxiter=100
  bailoutest=manh inside=bof60 invert=1/0/0 periodicity=0
  colors=000KQT<9>443<9>joehndflc644<7>ue`<14>000<3>SRH<14>CV5130<10>Me2<7\
  >XTF432<7>eRM<13>J22H00H00H00L00<2>_07c3Ag7D<2>qIKtMNvQPxUSyXUz`XzcZzf`y\
  icwlevog<2>mumjwofxpbyr<2>PzvKzwFyx<2>0uy0tz<2>0mz0jz0gy0dy0`x0Yw0Uw<2>0\
  Js0Fr0Bp07n04m00k<4>00`30Z<5>W0K410<13>zR0<5>fU6043<13>7zj<14>EO5<4>DX9<\
  2>SLH752<6>tjM344<7>R`e<3>LTW
  }

mnfnch07           { ; 0:07:42.09 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=sqrt/sqr passes=b
  center-mag=-9.36455/1.77636e-014/0.046875/1/90 params=-0.333/0/0.606
  float=y maxiter=100 bailout=4 bailoutest=manh inside=bof60
  invert=1/0/0 periodicity=0
  colors=000jU5fU6043<13>7zj<14>EO5<4>DX9<2>SLH752<6>tjM344<7>R`e<14>443<9\
  >joehndflc644<7>ue`<14>000<3>SRH<14>CV5130<10>Me2<7>XTF432<7>eRM<13>J22H\
  00H00H00L00<2>_07c3Ag7D<2>qIKtMNvQPxUSyXUz`XzcZzf`yicwlevog<2>mumjwofxpb\
  yr<2>PzvKzwFyx<2>0uy0tz<2>0mz0jz0gy0dy0`x0Yw0Uw<2>0Js0Fr0Bp07n04m00k<4>0\
  0`30Z<5>W0K410<13>zR0<3>mT4
  }

mnfnch11           { ; 0:00:43.40 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=exp/sqr passes=t
  center-mag=9.47603/7.10543e-015/0.02439024/1/90 params=-0.1/0/0.125
  float=y maxiter=100 bailoutest=manh inside=bof60 invert=1/0/0
  periodicity=0
  colors=000TXQ<3>joehndflc644<7>ue`<14>000<3>SRH<14>CV5130<10>Me2<7>XTF43\
  2<7>eRM<13>J22H00H00H00L00<2>_07c3Ag7D<2>qIKtMNvQPxUSyXUz`XzcZzf`yicwlev\
  og<2>mumjwofxpbyr<2>PzvKzwFyx<2>0uy0tz<2>0mz0jz0gy0dy0`x0Yw0Uw<2>0Js0Fr0\
  Bp07n04m00k<4>00`30Z<5>W0K410<13>zR0<5>fU6043<13>7zj<14>EO5<4>DX9<2>SLH7\
  52<6>tjM344<7>R`e<14>443<4>PSM
  }

mnfnch12           { ; 0:02:56.70 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=cosh/sqr passes=t
  center-mag=-10.8183/7.10543e-015/0.02439024/1/90 params=-0.1/0/0.125
  float=y maxiter=100 bailoutest=manh inside=bof60 invert=1/0/0
  periodicity=0
  colors=000FKM<6>443<9>joehndflc644<7>ue`<14>000<3>SRH<14>CV5130<10>Me2<7\
  >XTF432<7>eRM<13>J22H00H00H00L00<2>_07c3Ag7D<2>qIKtMNvQPxUSyXUz`XzcZzf`y\
  icwlevog<2>mumjwofxpbyr<2>PzvKzwFyx<2>0uy0tz<2>0mz0jz0gy0dy0`x0Yw0Uw<2>0\
  Js0Fr0Bp07n04m00k<4>00`30Z<5>W0K410<13>zR0<5>fU6043<13>7zj<14>EO5<4>DX9<\
  2>SLH752<6>tjM344<7>R`e<6>HMO
  }

mnfnch13           { ; 0:04:33.20 75mhz 800x600
                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
  reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=cosxx/recip passes=t
  center-mag=-21.7391/2.84217e-014/0.03311258/1/90 params=-0.1/0/0.125
  float=y maxiter=100 bailoutest=manh inside=bof60 invert=1/0/0
  periodicity=0
  colors=000<14>zR0<5>fU6043<13>7zj<14>EO5<4>DX9<2>SLH752<6>tjM344<7>R`e<1\
  4>443<9>joehndflc644<7>ue`<14>000<3>SRH<14>CV5130<10>Me2<7>XTF432<7>eRM<\
  13>J22H00H00H00L00<2>_07c3Ag7D<2>qIKtMNvQPxUSyXUz`XzcZzf`yicwlevog<2>mum\
  jwofxpbyr<2>PzvKzwFyx<2>0uy0tz<2>0mz0jz0gy0dy0`x0Yw0Uw<2>0Js0Fr0Bp07n04m\
  00k<4>00`30Z<5>W0K
  }


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From: "Blake Hyde" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) I'm back; also updated galleries
Date: 28 Jun 1998 17:31:45 -0400

Interestingly enough, I haven't heard anything from the list in about a month
and a half.  I wasn't able to figure out what had happened, so I resubscribed.
I do know that the time was roughly when I changed my return address on mail
to a rot13 version (which I already used for usenet).  Could this do anything
of that nature?

Anyway, what makes this an on-topic post is that I've added a few fractals to
my site, after a goodly absence (since March, I believe).  Now, school's out
and I can get back to doing things.  :)  I replaced the strangely behaving
Java chat with a stranger behaving cgi chat, which I don't like--but it's
faster than the old one.  The new fractals, I must admit, weren't made by
fractint, but by TieraZon.

    Fractal page:  www.connectu.net/bhyde/fractal.htm
TieraZon Gallery:  www.connectu.net/bhyde/fr_tiera1.htm
    Fractal chat:  www.connectu.net/bhyde/fracchat.htm

Comments on any of these are welcome.

Also, I am trying to install linux as a dual boot OS with W95; I have some
questions which I won't spam the list with.  If you think you can help me
a bit with kernels and some basics, please email me (not the list).

Anyway, hi all.  8)  Now I can enjoy the pars again.
 Blake Hyde (ROT13: [e-mail])
-==(UDIC)==-
Novan Dragon
--------------
d+ e- N+ T--- Om-- U1347'!S'8!K u uC++ uF uG++ uLB+ uA nC+ nR nH- nP nI--
nPT nS+ nT wM wC+ wS- wI++ wN- o oA++ y   a666
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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Banner?
Date: 28 Jun 1998 18:24:30 -0500

Christian Strik wrote:
>
> I noticed that my mail 'ICQ Number list - Rev.5'
> didn't have a Fractint mailing list banner.
> Does anyone know why? Just curious :)
>

It's because you used Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 and the
email was sent as:

     Content-Type:  multipart/alternative

instead of the usual:

     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

P.N.L.
     Why do most folks hate cynics so much?
       Because we're almost always right.
http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go

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From: chris landrum <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) off topic, but....
Date: 28 Jun 1998 19:19:15 -0700

anyone know of another major corportation that has a company named after
the CEO's pecker?


sorry, could not resist.

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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) off topic, but....
Date: 28 Jun 1998 22:50:37 -0400 (EDT)

On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, chris landrum wrote:
> anyone know of another major corportation that has a company named after
> the CEO's pecker?

You know, that's *way* off-topic.  I'm sure the thought has probably
occurred to many of us -- but we didn't post to this mailing list.  Why
don't you post to comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy instead?

Kragen


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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) off topic, but....
Date: 28 Jun 1998 22:50:37 -0400 (EDT)

On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, chris landrum wrote:
> anyone know of another major corportation that has a company named after
> the CEO's pecker?

You know, that's *way* off-topic.  I'm sure the thought has probably
occurred to many of us -- but we didn't post to this mailing list.  Why
don't you post to comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy instead?

Kragen


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From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) A Brot?
Date: 28 Jun 1998 21:04:03 -0700

A brot, indeed, Ray!  And a nice one at that!
Linda
-----Original Message-----


>
> It's late.  So, here's a par.
>
>
>Autumn_Brot_Spots  { ; Frima218-021
>                     ; 6/27/98
>                     ; elmont
>                     ; fromFrimA27
>  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=Jm_03
>  function=sin/sqr/sqr/sin
>
center-mag=+1.11061482930044400/-0.01424711092325102/37410.03/1/-24.999
>  params=1.25/1.25 float=y
>
colors=d60<9>rZAcMI<3>eLHzUF<14>d60KKc<11>RguSivTkxUmzUmz<11>NQhMOgLMeKK
\
>
cU00<14>zbQtXL<14>U00tIZ<13>yTnzUpzUp<14>tIZh00<11>q7Fr8Hs9ItAKtAK<11>k3
\
>
5j23i12h00nG4<13>yc1ze0ze0<14>nG4KKc<11>RguSivTkxUmzUmz<11>NQhMOgLMeKKcU
\
>  00<11>nQFpSHrUItXKtXK<12>U000a00Z0
>  }
>
> It's even later now - so, good night.
>
> Ray
>
>
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From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 7 pars (mandel(fnIIfn))
Date: 28 Jun 1998 21:05:19 -0700

Beautiful, Jim!  Mnfn2705 is my favorite, but Mnfn2703 was a close
second!  I like the rose color in 2705.

I couldn't get the overkill series to run.  Maybe after Les (wonderful,
helpful Les) makes in June files available I will get them to run ok.

Thanks for sharing!
Linda
-----Original Message-----
Cc: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>


>
>
>These were kinda strange looking, as fractals usually are, so I thought
the
>list might like to have look.   Enjoy~
>
>Jim
>***********************************************************************
****
>
>mnfn2701           { ; 0:02:49.61 75mhz 800x600
>                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
>  reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=sin/sqr passes=1
>  center-mag=0/0/0.1/1/90 params=0/0/0.2 float=y maxiter=25
>  bailoutest=and inside=bof60 invert=1/0/0 periodicity=0
>
colors=000O86<2>J22H00H00H00L00<2>_07c3Ag7D<2>qIKtMNvQPxUSyXUz`XzcZzf`yi
\
>
cwlevog<2>mumjwofxpbyr<2>PzvKzwFyx<2>0uy0tz<2>0mz0jz0gy0dy0`x0Yw0Uw<2>0J
\
>
s0Fr0Bp07n04m00k<4>00`30Z<5>W0K410<13>zR0<5>fU6043<13>7zj<14>EO5<4>DX9<2
\
>
>SLH752<6>tjM344<7>R`e<14>443<9>joehndflc644<7>ue`<14>000<3>SRH<14>CV513
\
>  0<10>Me2<7>XTF432<7>eRM<9>Q98
>  }
>
>mnfn2702           { ; 0:01:25.57 75mhz 800x600
>                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
>  reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=cosxx/sqr passes=1
>  center-mag=0/0/0.05/1/90 params=0/0/0.2 float=y maxiter=25
>  bailoutest=and inside=bof60 invert=1/0/0 periodicity=0
>
colors=000SIE<2>eRM<13>J22H00H00H00L00<2>_07c3Ag7D<2>qIKtMNvQPxUSyXUz`Xz
\
>
cZzf`yicwlevog<2>mumjwofxpbyr<2>PzvKzwFyx<2>0uy0tz<2>0mz0jz0gy0dy0`x0Yw0
\
>
Uw<2>0Js0Fr0Bp07n04m00k<4>00`30Z<5>W0K410<13>zR0<5>fU6043<13>7zj<14>EO5<
\
>
4>DX9<2>SLH752<6>tjM344<7>R`e<14>443<9>joehndflc644<7>ue`<14>000<3>SRH<1
\
>  4>CV5130<10>Me2<7>XTF432<3>NFC
>  }
>
>mnfn2703           { ; 0:01:50.79 75mhz 800x600
>                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
>  reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=cosh/sqr passes=1
>  center-mag=-16.3785/0/0.03/1/90 params=0/0/0.2 float=y maxiter=25
>  bailoutest=and inside=bof60 invert=1/0/0 periodicity=0
>
colors=000IC9<4>eRM<13>J22H00H00H00L00<2>_07c3Ag7D<2>qIKtMNvQPxUSyXUz`Xz
\
>
cZzf`yicwlevog<2>mumjwofxpbyr<2>PzvKzwFyx<2>0uy0tz<2>0mz0jz0gy0dy0`x0Yw0
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>
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>  center-mag=1.45877/0/0.03/1/90 params=0/0/0.2 float=y maxiter=25
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>                     ; 6/27/98 image(c) JamesWeaver
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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PAR fractal fangs
Date: 28 Jun 1998 21:36:02 -0700

comment { words and pars by Mark "Bud" Christenson 3/28/98

This morning I awoke from a very weird series of dreams
that left me in a creative mood.  I have been playing with
Philip DiGiorgi's gravijul4 this month when my urge to frac
exceeds my self discipline, and today was no exception.

My last dream involved using poisonous snakes in self
defense, watching my attacker die, and then in turn being
bitten myself while returning the little green and orange
beasties to their cage.  I once saw a program on TV (PBS
or the Discovery Channel about a snake handler who was
once bitten by an extremely toxic variety and almost died.
He described the hallucinations produced by the near fatal
dose of neurotoxin as quite vivid, cross-linking sensory
inputs (e.g. auditory to visual) in a manner usually attributed
to high doses of LSD, and at some stages quite pleasant.
This morning's fractal combines elements from my dream,
including fanglike, serpentine swaths of green and orange.
The palette is a mutation of backlite.map (Sylvie's or Linda's,
I think).

To make saving the par worthwhile, I have added a couple
more of this month's good ones.


Enjoy, Bud

}

gj4-3o1            { ; "Snakebit" - (c) 6/28/98 Mark "Bud" Christenson
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=gravjulz.frm
  formulaname=gravijul4 function=ident/cotanh/acos/log passes=t
  center-mag=0/0/0.6666663 params=1/0/0/0/1/4
  float=y maxiter=151 inside=111 decomp=256

colors=00000K<28>FHVFIVGJWGJX<2>ILYIMYJNZJN_<7>NRgORhOShPTi<5>SZlT_mU`nV\
  anWbo<3>_fqagrbhsditfju<4>psxrtytvyvwyxyzzzz<30>W2WV0VU0U<13>G0GF0FG1F<4\
  6>zzc<22>z32z00x10<23>0PA<31>mmz cyclerange=0/255
  }

gj4-261            { ; "Supplication" - (c) Bud 6/23/98
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=gravjulz.frm
  formulaname=gravijul4 function=log/sinh/asin/log passes=t
  center-mag=0.398433/0/7.227284/1/-90
  params=1/0/0.23798/0/1/4 float=y maxiter=151 inside=111 decomp=256
  colors=0007B6CHAFKD<2>NPIQRKTUN<2>ccWgfZkjanne<2>zyn<8>gcWe`UdZT<3>XRLVP\

JUOITMHRKF<15>753643532322211111000<13>900A00A01A12<18>8JP8KQ9LR<2>EQXFR\

ZGT`HVbJXd<6>Xku_nx_lv<6>OUZMRVMQUMPSLNQJLNGHJBBC000000D4AK4F<3>_ASdC
WfE\

Z<6>wTw<6>gF_dCWbBU<2>W7MU6JR4GO2D<2>C6C<2>00000A<2>00I<16>00A00900800
70\

06<4>001000111<19>QHHRIISJJUKKVKKWLK<7>jTNkUNmWM<7>ziF<5>hUEeREcQD<2>X
K8\
  UI7QF6LC4D72000
  }

gj4-0z1            { ; "Tapestry" - (c) Bud 6/7/98
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=gravjulz.frm
  formulaname=gravijul4 function=sqrt/sin/tanh/atanh passes=t
  center-mag=0/0/0.425 params=1/0/0.23798/0/1/4
  float=y maxiter=151 inside=111 decomp=256
  colors=0007B6CHAFKD<2>NPIQRKTUN<2>ccWgfZkjanne<2>zyn<8>gcWe`UdZT<3>XRLVP\

JUOITMHRKF<19>21100M000<13>900A00A01A12<18>8JP8KQ9LR<2>EQXFRZGT`HVbJXd<
6\

>Xku_nx_lv<5>QXbOUZNSXMQUMPSLNQJLNGHJBBC000000D4AK4F<4>bCVfEZhGa<5>wT
w<6\

>gF_dCWbBU<2>W7MU6JR4GO2DK0AG8G<3>00000A<2>00I<20>006005004003002001000
<\

20>QHHRIISJJUKKVKKWLK<7>jTNkUNmWM<7>ziF<5>hUEeREcQD<2>XK8UI7QF6LC4B62
000
  }

frm:gravijul4 { ;variation of a Mark Christenson frm by Philip DiGiorgi 3/19/98
 bailout = imag(p3), k = real(p3)
  z = abs(pixel):
  v = fn1(z)*k
  w = fn2(v*v)
  z = fn4(p1/fn3(w*w)) + p2
  |z| < bailout
}



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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PAR fractal fangs - correction
Date: 28 Jun 1998 21:41:36 -0700

comment { words and pars by Mark "Bud" Christenson 3/28/98

** please excuse the horrible punctuation error in the previous
 post (mismatched parens) **

This morning I awoke from a very weird series of dreams
that left me in a creative mood.  I have been playing with
Philip DiGiorgi's gravijul4 this month when my urge to frac
exceeds my self discipline, and today was no exception.

My last dream involved using poisonous snakes in self
defense, watching my attacker die, and then in turn being
bitten myself while returning the little green and orange
beasties to their cage.  I once saw a program on TV (PBS
or the Discovery Channel) about a snake handler who was
once bitten by an extremely toxic variety and almost died.
He described the hallucinations produced by the near fatal
dose of neurotoxin as quite vivid, cross-linking sensory
inputs (e.g. auditory to visual) in a manner usually attributed
to high doses of LSD, and at some stages quite pleasant.
This morning's fractal combines elements from my dream,
including fanglike, serpentine swaths of green and orange.
The palette is a mutation of backlite.map (Sylvie's or Linda's,
I think).

To make saving the par worthwhile, I have added a couple
more of this month's good ones.


Enjoy, Bud

}

gj4-3o1            { ; "Snakebit" - (c) 6/28/98 Mark "Bud" Christenson
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=gravjulz.frm
  formulaname=gravijul4 function=ident/cotanh/acos/log passes=t
  center-mag=0/0/0.6666663 params=1/0/0/0/1/4
  float=y maxiter=151 inside=111 decomp=256

colors=00000K<28>FHVFIVGJWGJX<2>ILYIMYJNZJN_<7>NRgORhOShPTi<5>SZlT_mU`nV\
  anWbo<3>_fqagrbhsditfju<4>psxrtytvyvwyxyzzzz<30>W2WV0VU0U<13>G0GF0FG1F<4\
  6>zzc<22>z32z00x10<23>0PA<31>mmz cyclerange=0/255
  }

gj4-261            { ; "Supplication" - (c) Bud 6/23/98
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=gravjulz.frm
  formulaname=gravijul4 function=log/sinh/asin/log passes=t
  center-mag=0.398433/0/7.227284/1/-90
  params=1/0/0.23798/0/1/4 float=y maxiter=151 inside=111 decomp=256
  colors=0007B6CHAFKD<2>NPIQRKTUN<2>ccWgfZkjanne<2>zyn<8>gcWe`UdZT<3>XRLVP\

JUOITMHRKF<15>753643532322211111000<13>900A00A01A12<18>8JP8KQ9LR<2>EQXFR\

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WfE\

Z<6>wTw<6>gF_dCWbBU<2>W7MU6JR4GO2D<2>C6C<2>00000A<2>00I<16>00A00900800
70\

06<4>001000111<19>QHHRIISJJUKKVKKWLK<7>jTNkUNmWM<7>ziF<5>hUEeREcQD<2>X
K8\
  UI7QF6LC4D72000
  }

gj4-0z1            { ; "Tapestry" - (c) Bud 6/7/98
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=gravjulz.frm
  formulaname=gravijul4 function=sqrt/sin/tanh/atanh passes=t
  center-mag=0/0/0.425 params=1/0/0.23798/0/1/4
  float=y maxiter=151 inside=111 decomp=256
  colors=0007B6CHAFKD<2>NPIQRKTUN<2>ccWgfZkjanne<2>zyn<8>gcWe`UdZT<3>XRLVP\

JUOITMHRKF<19>21100M000<13>900A00A01A12<18>8JP8KQ9LR<2>EQXFRZGT`HVbJXd<
6\

>Xku_nx_lv<5>QXbOUZNSXMQUMPSLNQJLNGHJBBC000000D4AK4F<4>bCVfEZhGa<5>wT
w<6\

>gF_dCWbBU<2>W7MU6JR4GO2DK0AG8G<3>00000A<2>00I<20>006005004003002001000
<\

20>QHHRIISJJUKKVKKWLK<7>jTNkUNmWM<7>ziF<5>hUEeREcQD<2>XK8UI7QF6LC4B62
000
  }

frm:gravijul4 { ;variation of a Mark Christenson frm by Philip DiGiorgi 3/19/98
 bailout = imag(p3), k = real(p3)
  z = abs(pixel):
  v = fn1(z)*k
  w = fn2(v*v)
  z = fn4(p1/fn3(w*w)) + p2
  |z| < bailout
}



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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PAR fractal fangs - 2nd correction
Date: 28 Jun 1998 21:56:54 -0700

comment { words and pars by Mark "Bud" Christenson 6/28/98

** please excuse the horrible punctuation (mismatched parens)
 and factual (wrong date) errors in the previous posts **

This morning I awoke from a very weird series of dreams
that left me in a creative mood.  I have been playing with
Philip DiGiorgi's gravijul4 this month when my urge to frac
exceeds my self discipline, and today was no exception.

My last dream involved using poisonous snakes in self
defense, watching my attacker die, and then in turn being
bitten myself while returning the little green and orange
beasties to their cage.  I once saw a program on TV (PBS
or the Discovery Channel) about a snake handler who was
once bitten by an extremely toxic variety and almost died.
He described the hallucinations produced by the near fatal
dose of neurotoxin as quite vivid, cross-linking sensory
inputs (e.g. auditory to visual) in a manner usually attributed
to high doses of LSD, and at some stages quite pleasant.
This morning's fractal combines elements from my dream,
including fanglike, serpentine swaths of green and orange.
The palette is a mutation of backlite.map (Sylvie's or Linda's,
I think).

To make saving the par worthwhile, I have added a couple
more of this month's good ones.


Enjoy, Bud

}

gj4-3o1            { ; "Snakebit" - (c) 6/28/98 Mark "Bud" Christenson
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=gravjulz.frm
  formulaname=gravijul4 function=ident/cotanh/acos/log passes=t
  center-mag=0/0/0.6666663 params=1/0/0/0/1/4
  float=y maxiter=151 inside=111 decomp=256

colors=00000K<28>FHVFIVGJWGJX<2>ILYIMYJNZJN_<7>NRgORhOShPTi<5>SZlT_mU`nV\
  anWbo<3>_fqagrbhsditfju<4>psxrtytvyvwyxyzzzz<30>W2WV0VU0U<13>G0GF0FG1F<4\
  6>zzc<22>z32z00x10<23>0PA<31>mmz cyclerange=0/255
  }

gj4-261            { ; "Supplication" - (c) Bud 6/23/98
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=gravjulz.frm
  formulaname=gravijul4 function=log/sinh/asin/log passes=t
  center-mag=0.398433/0/7.227284/1/-90
  params=1/0/0.23798/0/1/4 float=y maxiter=151 inside=111 decomp=256
  colors=0007B6CHAFKD<2>NPIQRKTUN<2>ccWgfZkjanne<2>zyn<8>gcWe`UdZT<3>XRLVP\

JUOITMHRKF<15>753643532322211111000<13>900A00A01A12<18>8JP8KQ9LR<2>EQXFR\

ZGT`HVbJXd<6>Xku_nx_lv<6>OUZMRVMQUMPSLNQJLNGHJBBC000000D4AK4F<3>_ASdC
WfE\

Z<6>wTw<6>gF_dCWbBU<2>W7MU6JR4GO2D<2>C6C<2>00000A<2>00I<16>00A00900800
70\

06<4>001000111<19>QHHRIISJJUKKVKKWLK<7>jTNkUNmWM<7>ziF<5>hUEeREcQD<2>X
K8\
  UI7QF6LC4D72000
  }

gj4-0z1            { ; "Tapestry" - (c) Bud 6/7/98
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=gravjulz.frm
  formulaname=gravijul4 function=sqrt/sin/tanh/atanh passes=t
  center-mag=0/0/0.425 params=1/0/0.23798/0/1/4
  float=y maxiter=151 inside=111 decomp=256
  colors=0007B6CHAFKD<2>NPIQRKTUN<2>ccWgfZkjanne<2>zyn<8>gcWe`UdZT<3>XRLVP\

JUOITMHRKF<19>21100M000<13>900A00A01A12<18>8JP8KQ9LR<2>EQXFRZGT`HVbJXd<
6\

>Xku_nx_lv<5>QXbOUZNSXMQUMPSLNQJLNGHJBBC000000D4AK4F<4>bCVfEZhGa<5>wT
w<6\

>gF_dCWbBU<2>W7MU6JR4GO2DK0AG8G<3>00000A<2>00I<20>006005004003002001000
<\

20>QHHRIISJJUKKVKKWLK<7>jTNkUNmWM<7>ziF<5>hUEeREcQD<2>XK8UI7QF6LC4B62
000
  }

frm:gravijul4 { ;variation of a Mark Christenson frm by Philip DiGiorgi 3/19/98
 bailout = imag(p3), k = real(p3)
  z = abs(pixel):
  v = fn1(z)*k
  w = fn2(v*v)
  z = fn4(p1/fn3(w*w)) + p2
  |z| < bailout
}



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From: Ray Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Amateur Night
Date: 28 Jun 1998 22:29:05 -0700


    'Evening!

    Been out baby-sitting all day then digging a trench around the front of my
house.  To celebrate both occasions I'm posting another par.
    If I had taken up silversmithing instead, the following par is what a
picture of the result of at least one of my projects might have looked
like.  Or, even, one of yours,- or maybe your second cousin's.
    It might better be entitled "Insecure, uncertain and inexperienced
silversmithing."


AmateurSilversmith { ; Frima218-014
                     ; 6/25/98
                     ; elmont
                     ; from FrimA27-046
  reset=1960 type=mandel
  center-mag=+0.13145539906103300/+0.68979645093945920/5333.333
  params=0/0 float=y
  colors=000000<15>zzz<15>000<15>zn0<15>000<15>zzz<15>004<10>E0cF0gG0jH0nI\
  0qK0u<13>308204333<14>zzz<15>000<15>z0G<15>000<15>zzz<15>000<15>0gg<14>0\
  33
  }

    Don't stay up too late.  Goodnight.

                Ray


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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) test message
Date: 29 Jun 1998 17:33:34 -0700

blah blah blah...

am I cut off?



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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) test message
Date: 29 Jun 1998 22:32:01 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 29 Jun 1998, Mark Christenson wrote:
> blah blah blah...
>
> am I cut off?

You appear to have been cut off after the third "blah", which has (as
you can see) only an ellipsis after it.  Whether this was your own
excellent judgment or someone else's, I cannot say, but I would venture
to guess it was the former.

:)

Kragen


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From: David Ellis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Response from C'T on mandelbrot program & 3DNow!
Date: 29 Jun 1998 21:46:36 -0500

Below is the response I got from the person who wrote the original article
on the use of 3DNow! in a Mandelbrot program

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Jun 1998 22:16:27 +0200

Hi Ellis,=20
please wait a couple of days, I will publish the Mandelbrot program together=
=20
with some hints, how to work with MMX and 3Dnow! instructions in our next=20
issue c=B4t 15/98.

mit freundlichen Gruessen (kind regards)
Andreas Stiller
Leitender Redakteur (senior editor)=20
c't magazin=20
tel: [phone]=20
Fax: [phone]
ps: getting beta all the time=20




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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) the gap
Date: 29 Jun 1998 19:53:34 -0700

At 10:32 PM 6/29/98 -0400, Kragen wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Jun 1998, Mark Christenson wrote:
>> blah blah blah...
>>
>> am I cut off?
>
>You appear to have been cut off after the third "blah", which has (as
>you can see) only an ellipsis after it.  Whether this was your own
>excellent judgment or someone else's, I cannot say, but I would venture
>to guess it was the former.
>
>:)
>
>Kragen

It was just so weird.  I have never seen the list silent for so long.
I figured I had been ousted for lousy proofreading :-P


Bud


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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Posing a M'brot Problem!
Date: 29 Jun 1998 22:56:01 -0400

I pose the following problem on the properties of the Mandelbrot Set:

  Assume that I am looking at a midget somewhere very deep in the
Mandelbrot Set.  I notice that at the edges of my image there is an
eightfold symmetry about the midget: there are 8 almost identical
filaments crossing the boundary of my image leading to places unknown.
Now I know that the Mandelbrot Set is simply connected.  So these 8
filaments each have a direction associated with them pointing back to
the Main Lake.  Therefore 7 of these filaments point inward towards the
midget at the center of my image, and one filament points outward away
from that midget.

  Is there some way of determining this direction of a filament - i.e.,
are there any clues in my image (e.g., relative sizes of various similar
shapes along the filaments, etc) to provide this information without my
having to zoom out a few times to follow the maze?  (With a network of
natural streams, one could look at slope, confluence angles, etc.)  I
have a feeling that there must be some method that would work in the
Mandelbrot Set, but so far it escapes me.

Lee Skinner

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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Posing a M'brot Problem!
Date: 29 Jun 1998 20:19:33 -0700

At 10:56 PM 6/29/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I pose the following problem on the properties of the Mandelbrot Set:
>...
>  Is there some way of determining this direction of a filament...

Based on the years I have spent poking around the M-set,
and unless I am mistaken, the "head" (pointy end) of the
midgets always point away from the main lake.  Or, you
could interpret it as the midgets mooning their ancestors.
Please feel free to slap me silly if I'm wrong (probably
wouldn't take much at this point).


Bud


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From: "Phil DiGiorgi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PARS - Weeks later
Date: 29 Jun 1998 23:37:58 -0400

A while back, there were several nice pars and formulas posted based on the PopcornJul.   I had
spent some time fiddling with a generalized version of this type a year or so ago, and was
inspired to re-visit it.   The formula and images that follow are the result of an attempt to
marry this old formula (pd_pcj) with the modified Hi-Cycle coloring method that I've come to love
so much.   Hope you like the results.


  -Phil D.


HCP102             { ;   t=  0:17:56.87   (c) P. DiGiorgi - Jun 29, 1998
                     ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_pcjul function=sin/tan/ident/sinh passes=t
  center-mag=-0.00338953/-2.22045e-016/0.9700626/1/180
  params=0.012/1/1/0.008/0.1/0.22 float=y maxiter=255 outside=summ
  colors=000zi0<27>wW0wW0wW0wW0wW0<6>tT0tT0tT0tT0sS0<29>kK0jJ0jJ0iI0iI0<30\
  >R40Q40P40P40O40<2>N40N40M40L40<5>000Ucz<25>PXzPWzPWzPVzPVz<2>PU\
  zOTzOTzNSyNSy<73>20P20P20P20P20O<4>10M00M00L00K<5>000
  }

HCP103             { ;   t=  0:31:56.12   (c) P. DiGiorgi - Jun 29, 1998
                     ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_pcjul function=sin/cos/ident/sinh passes=t
  center-mag=-1.11022e-016/0/1.16/1/-90
  params=0.015/1.3/0.995/0.013/0.08/0.05 float=y maxiter=255
  outside=summ
  colors=000zzz<2>wwwwwwvvvvvuuuu<109>GFDGFDGFDGFDGFCGFCGFBGFCwwl<5>wwfvvd\
  wwc<25>fV8fU6eT5eS3dR2cP0<30>S75R66R66R66<23>K11K11K11K11K11J11<26>B11
  cyclerange=1/250
  }

HCP106             { ;   t=  0:03:22.29   (c) P. DiGiorgi - Jun 29, 1998
                     ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_pcjul function=sin/cotan/acosh/ident passes=t
  center-mag=-4.44089e-016/4.44089e-016/0.9363296
  params=0.1/1/1/0.005/-0.3/0.3 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253
  outside=summ
  colors=A85zzz<2>wwwwwwvvvvvuuuu<111>GFDGFDGFCGFCGFBGFCwwl<5>wwfvvdwwc<25\
  >fV8fU6eT5eS3dR2cP0<30>S75R66R66R66<23>K11K11K11K11K11J11<26>B11
  cyclerange=2/255
  }

HCP108             { ;   t=  0:02:00.18   (c) P. DiGiorgi - Jun 29, 1998
                     ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_pcjul function=sin/cotanh/log/round passes=t
  center-mag=-6.66134e-016/0/0.9409349 params=0.06/1/1/0.1/-0.25/0.25
  float=y maxiter=255 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000zzz<2>wwwwwwvvvvvuuuu<110>GFDGFDGFDGFCGFCGFBGFCwwl<5>wwfvvdwwc\
  <23>gXAgW9fV8fU6eT5eS3dR2cP0<30>S75R66R66R66<23>K11K11K11K11K11J11<26>B1\
  1 cyclerange=2/255
  }

HCP109             { ;   t=  0:02:40.55   (c) P. DiGiorgi - Jun 29, 1998
                     ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_pcjul function=ident/cotanh/acosh/round passes=t
  center-mag=-8.88178e-016/2.22045e-016/0.9452087/1/-90
  params=0.06/1/1/0.1/-0.25/0.25 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253
  outside=summ
  colors=A0FUKK<88>yyyzzzzyy<32>UKK6Ac<38>BEeBFfBFfCGfCGg<12>JMjKMjKNjLOj<\
  11>UWoVWpWXpWYqXZqY_r<12>kkymlymmziix<2>cdubct`as_`rY_q<18>DGfCFfBFe<4>6\
  Ac59c6Ac6Qh6Qg cyclerange=2/255
  }

HCP111             { ;   t=  0:03:24.99   (c) P. DiGiorgi - Jun 29, 1998
                     ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_pcjul function=cos/log/acosh/trunc passes=t
  center-mag=-1.11022e-015/0/1.059651/1/180
  params=0.02/1.8/1.1/0.05/-0.2/0.1 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253
  outside=summ
  colors=404cE7<14>`C6_C6_C6ZC6ZC6<7>VA5UA5TA5S94R94<13>E42D42B42<7>100000\
  000OLI<47>xxxyyyzzzzzzyyzxxz<11>rqtqptpotootont<29>XLdWKdWJcWJc<93>A0D
  cyclerange=2/255
  }

HCP112             { ;   t=  0:22:35.51   (c) P. DiGiorgi - Jun 29, 1998
                     ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_pcjul function=sin/tan/tan/trunc passes=1
  center-mag=-1.77636e-015/1.11022e-016/0.8040157/1/135
  params=0.02/2/1/0.06/-0.2/0.2 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253
  outside=summ
  colors=000U00<18>T00T00R00<8>000<36>000110320<25>mb8od9qe9sgAtgAthBtiBuj\
  C<12>xuexvhxwjyxmyxmyxn<12>ywtyvuyvvyvwzuy<4>zuyzuxztv<25>wYGvXEvWDuVBuU\
  A<4>uS3uR1uQ1<4>sO0sN0sM0rL0rK0<3>pI0pH0pG0pF0pE0<2>nD0nC0mB0mA0m90<5>k5\
  0k50j40i30<2>h10h00h00g00<7>d00d00c00b00<9>Z00Z00Y00X00<5>U00U00U00U00U0\
  0 cyclerange=2/250
  }

HCP113             { ;   t=  0:13:22.41   (c) P. DiGiorgi - Jun 29, 1998
                     ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_pcjul function=sin/tan/tan/tan passes=t
  center-mag=-2.88658e-015/-4.44089e-016/0.624327/1/90
  params=0.01/4/1/0.12/-0.2/0.2 float=y maxiter=255 inside=253
  outside=summ
  colors=000zi0<28>wW0wW0wW0wW0wW0<5>tT0tT0tT0tT0sS0<31>jJ0iI0iI0hH0hH0<29\
  >Q40P40P40O40O40<3>M40L40I40<4>000Ucz<27>PWzPVzPVzPUzPUz<2>OTzNSyNSyNSxN\
  Rx<72>20P20P20P20O20O<5>00L00K00H<4>000 cyclerange=2/250
  }

HCP115             { ;   t=  0:08:19.55   (c) P. DiGiorgi - Jun 29, 1998
                     ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_pcjul function=atanh/tanh/flip/exp passes=1
  center-mag=-2.22045e-016/-6.66134e-016/1.248498/1/-90
  params=0.07000000000000001/1/0.9/0/1/0.01 float=y maxiter=255
  outside=summ periodicity=0
  colors=850zKA<61>422zzw<61>223KKz<61>000zzc<60>221000000123256
  }

HCP119             { ;   t=  0:10:37.23   (c) P. DiGiorgi - Jun 29, 1998
                     ; Using a K6-266 at 1600x1200
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=pctest.frm
  formulaname=pd-hc_pcjul function=sin/sqr/tanh/sinh passes=t
  center-mag=0/0/1/1/90 params=0.012/1/1/0.04/0.2/0.22 float=y
  maxiter=255 outside=summ
  colors=000yvw<12>xvhwufwuf<62>w`Lw`Lw_LwZK<42>j410Am<36>09g09g09g09f09f0\
  9f<23>28W28W28W28W28V<56>56D000kkk
  }

frm:pd-HC_PCJul    {; formula by P. DiGiorgi, June, 1998
                    ; Paul Carlson's Hi_Cycle method (modified)
                    ; applied to a generalized PopcornJul type
 z = w = iter = range_num = bailout = 0
 pa = abs(real(p3)), pb = imag(p3)
  h = real(p1)
  w = abs(pixel)
  x = real(w), y = imag(w)
  i = (0,1)
     k = 1.2 - pb
     :
  x1 = p2*x - h*fn1(y - fn2(fn3(3*y)))
  y1 = p2*y - h*fn1(x - fn2(fn3(3*x)))
  w = x1 + flip(y1)
  x = x1, y = y1
    wr = real(w)
     w = w - wr + abs(wr)
  angle = atan(imag(w)/wr)
     ka = k * angle / pb
     rw = k * cos(angle) + pb * cos(ka)
     iw = k * sin(angle) + pb * sin(ka)
     ww = rw + i * iw
     IF (real(p3) < 0)
 ww = fn4(ww)
  ELSE
 ww = fn4(1 - ww)/ww
  ENDIF
  dist = abs(|w|-|ww|)
     IF (dist < pa && iter > 1)
 bailout = 1
 index = 125 * dist / pa
 z = index + range_num * 125 + 1
     ENDIF
     iter = iter + 1
     range_num = range_num + 1
     IF (range_num == 2)
 range_num = 0
     ENDIF
     z = z - iter
     bailout == 0 && |w| < imag(p1)
  }




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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Posing a M'brot Problem!
Date: 30 Jun 1998 16:57:40 +1200

At 20:19 29/06/98 -0700, Bud wrote:
>At 10:56 PM 6/29/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>I pose the following problem on the properties of the Mandelbrot Set:
>>...
>>  Is there some way of determining this direction of a filament...
>
>Based on the years I have spent poking around the M-set,
>and unless I am mistaken, the "head" (pointy end) of the
>midgets always point away from the main lake.
>
>Bud
>
Sounds plausible to me; it certainly matches my experience - especially
since the main M-set is the only one (that I've seen) that _doesn't_ have a
filament working its way up the cardioid. Counterexamples welcome!

Morgan


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From: Ray Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Facing which way?
Date: 29 Jun 1998 22:28:03 -0700


    Hi!

    An earlier exchange on the list between Lee Skinner and Mark Christenson
referred to the direction that the little (mini) brots faced, away or
toward the main lake, and Mark thought they were all facing away.
    Coincidentally with the above exchange I happened across this little
parade of  brots - and one or the other of two of them is, or was, confused
- and possibly a mixed up couple in the middle were not sure which way they
were supposed to be facing so they sort of stretched out a little here and
a little there.
    Anyway, I thought the coincidence was interesting and the question
provocative and the conclusion - non-existant.
    I've dropped these two pars on the list.  One, Brot's Gold Shores was the
first image, and the second, Wrong Way Brot, was just another zoom in, till
I spotted that the two brots were facing each other - or vice versa - or
whatever.  The guy on the right seems a little the worse for wear.  Don't
know what  happened to him.
    The Wrong Way Brot is the area of the Gold Shores just to the left of the
right hand large brot.  You should be able to see that, I guess, without my
telling you.  A Beacham map was used for both of them.
    I'd be interested in hearing a reaction to the above.


Brot's_Gold_Shores { ; Frima219-024
                     ; 6/29/98
                     ; elmont
                     ; from FrimA28-011
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=Jm_03a
  function=sin/sqr/sinh/cosh
  center-mag=+0.80110138650000010/-0.00001668930000000/77.49005/0.9995
  params=1.25/0.95
  colors=000MMs<2>JJlIIjHHgGGd<2>CCWBBS99P88L66H55D33A226210110<3>HD3KG4OJ\
  4RL5VO6<2>dW8gY9i_9<2>peArfAthBviBwjB<4>zsKzqIzoFylCykC<2>uhBsgBqeAodAmb\
  9<3>bU7_S7WP6<2>MH4IE3EB2A82751202000<6>I6LL7ON8QP8T<3>XBaZCc_Cd<3>dEjeE\
  keEkfElgHliKlkOl<2>gHleEkdEj<2>aDe_CdZCbXB`VAZ<3>N7PK6NI6KF5HD4F<3>20330\
  0<5>Q55U55X66_77<3>k99m99pAArAAsBBuBBwBBxCCyCCyCC<2>zMM<2>yCC<2>uBBtBBrA\
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  1002<5>99PBBSCCWDDZFFa<2>IIjJJlKKoLLqMMs<3>OOxOOyQQySSyUUzSSzQQzOOy<3>MM\
  t
  }

Wrong_Way_Brot?    { ; Frima219-025
                     ; 6/29/98
                     ; elmont
                     ; from FrimA28-011
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=Jm_03a
  function=sin/sqr/sinh/cosh
  center-mag=+0.80589020250000000/-0.00001096725500000/778.3445/0.9995
  params=1.25/0.95
  colors=000MMs<2>JJlIIjHHgGGd<2>CCWBBS99P88L66H55D33A226210110<3>HD3KG4OJ\
  4RL5VO6<2>dW8gY9i_9<2>peArfAthBviBwjB<4>zsKzqIzoFylCykC<2>uhBsgBqeAodAmb\
  9<3>bU7_S7WP6<2>MH4IE3EB2A82751202000<6>I6LL7ON8QP8T<3>XBaZCc_Cd<3>dEjeE\
  keEkfElgHliKlkOl<2>gHleEkdEj<2>aDe_CdZCbXB`VAZ<3>N7PK6NI6KF5HD4F<3>20330\
  0<5>Q55U55X66_77<3>k99m99pAArAAsBBuBBwBBxCCyCCyCC<2>zMM<2>yCC<2>uBBtBBrA\
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  1002<5>99PBBSCCWDDZFFa<2>IIjJJlKKoLLqMMs<3>OOxOOyQQySSyUUzSSzQQzOOy<3>MM\
  t
  }

    Goodnight!            Ray



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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Posing a M'br
Date: 30 Jun 1998 02:30:13 -0400

Bud,

  You may be right. And a good technique if you are in seahorse valley. B=
ut
unfortunately, your observation doesn't help at all with the images that
I'm currently working with.  These are midgets near (but not on) the far
western spike of the m-set.  Out here, the midgets are as plentiful as
anywhere else, but hidden very deep down.   All I can see are x's (which
look like filament crossings, but aren't really). (I see no midgets at al=
l
except possibly one at the center of my image.)  At the center of each x =
is
a midget.  I would have to pick out 8 such x's on the 8 similar filaments=
,
and search each for the eventually appearing midget.

  However, to see these midgets, I would have to zoom each successively 1=
0,
15, or 20 times at maximum zoom.  In the intervening magnifications, the
filaments would bifurcate and circle around so many times that it would b=
e
almost impossible to determine which one was finally entering the "fanny"=

of the eventual midget.  It would be easier and faster to zoom outward!

Lee

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Posing a M'br
Date: 30 Jun 1998 03:37:14 EDT

As the Wise Cartman once asked:

"Why is it, that everything today has to do with things going in and coming
out of my [fanny]?!"

oh man is that sophomoric of me, please flame the address, not the list  ;)

Excommunicatus Potentia,
       Chris

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 6 Pars from Gallet 3-02
Date: 30 Jun 1998 04:24:13 EDT

What a rush! - I set out to explore one of Sylvie Gallet's formulas and stayed
up most of the night fishing out all sorts of fractal objects and designs.
Lots of fun - thanks, Sylvie!  Here are 6 pars. Enjoy!

8<
8

Blue_Buddha  {;Sitting Buddha - used blues.map.
                                     ;Image (c)1998 by Mark Aksoy,
[e-mail]
                                    ;From a formula by Sylvie Gallet, 1996.
                                    ; Calc. time on a P90 at 640x480 =
0:00:42.46
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-3-02 function=cotan/atan
  center-mag=1.30586/1.27122/0.5523976/1/-135 params=1/2/2/1 float=y
  inside=bof61 outside=atan decomp=256
  colors=000000<29>00k00m01m<29>0ky0mz1mz<30>zzz<46>2zz0zz0yz<45>02z00z00y\
  <59>002000000
  }

Winged_Apparition   {;Resembles a Chinese dragon.
                                  ;Image (c)1998 by Mark Aksoy, [e-mail]
                                  ;From a formula by Sylvie Gallet, 1996.
                                  ; Calc. time on a P90 at 640x480 =
0:05:41.25
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-3-02 function=tan/exp
  center-mag=0.180433/0.179116/0.5145443/1/44.999 params=2/2/2/1
  float=y inside=bof61 outside=atan decomp=256
  colors=000333000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<15>zz0<15>000\
  <15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N000<15>WWW<12>555
  }

Jaystripe_Buddha  {;Sitting Buddha - used jstripe.map for "3D" look.
                                           ;Image (c)1998 by Mark Aksoy,
[e-mail]
                                           ;From a formula by Sylvie Gallet,
1996.
                                           ; Calc. time on a P90 at 640x480 =
0:00:43.23
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-3-02 function=cotan/atan
  center-mag=1.28673/1.23809/0.5637762/1/-135 params=1/2/2/1 float=y
  inside=bof61 outside=atan decomp=256
  colors=00zhhh00iiii00jjjj00jjjj00kkkk00llll00mmmm00nnnn00oooo00oooo00ppp\
  p00qqqq00rrrr00ssss00tttt00tttt00uuuu00vvvv00wwww00xxxx00yyyy00zzzzzzz00\
  zyyy00yxxx00xwww00wvvv00vttt00tsss00srrr00rqqq00qppp00onnn00nmmm00mlll00\
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  }

Colored_Tiling      {;Geometric elegance with bold color transitions.
                               ;Image (c)1998 by Mark Aksoy, [e-mail]
                              ;From a formula by Sylvie Gallet, 1996.
                              ; Calc. time on a P90 at 640x480 = 0:00:35.26
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-3-02 function=cotan/sin
  center-mag=0.0122938/0.0296794/0.1494174/1/-135 params=2/2/2/1
  float=y inside=bof61 outside=atan decomp=256
  colors=0000B0<12>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N000<15>WWW<14>\
  000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<15>zz0<15>000030070
  }

SecretCompartments   {;Underneath the geometric elegance: handy storage
spaces!
                                     ;Image (c)1998 by Mark Aksoy,
[e-mail]
                                     ;From a formula by Sylvie Gallet, 1996.
                                     ; Calc. time on a P90 at 640x480 =
0:00:34.88
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-3-02 function=cotan/sin
  center-mag=0.0122938/0.0296794/0.1494174/1/-135 params=2/2/2/1
  float=y inside=bof61 outside=atan decomp=256
  colors=00zzzz00zyyy00yxxx00xwww00wvvv00vttt00tsss00srrr00rqqq00qppp00onn\
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  s00tttt00tttt00uuuu00vvvv00wwww00xxxx00yyyy00zzzz
  }

Radiation_Suit                     {;Front view of man(?) in a radiation suit.
                                            ;Image (c)1998 by Mark Aksoy,
[e-mail]
                                            ;From a formula by Sylvie Gallet,
1996.
                                           ; Calc. time on a P90 at 640x480 =
0:00:44.71
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-3-02 function=tan/cosxx
  center-mag=-0.44036/-0.442801/0.8192408/1/-135 params=2/2/2/1
  float=y inside=bof61 outside=atan decomp=256
  colors=00000K<15>zzz<14>44N000<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000\
  <15>00z<15>000<15>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>404
  }

frm:Gallet-3-02 { ; Sylvie Gallet [101324,3444], 1996
 z = pixel :
 x = real(z) , y = imag(z)
 x1 = x - p1*fn1(y+p2*fn2(y))
 y1 = y - p1*fn1(x+p2*fn2(x))
 z = x1+flip(y1)
 |z| <= 4}


******************************************************************************
******************
Mark Aksoy, [e-mail]
http://members.aol.com/maksoy/vistfrac/vistfrac.htm (site #35
on the Infinite Fractal Loop).
http://members.aol.com/fractasy/fractasy.htm

Why does my landscape keep printing out sideways?
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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Facing which
Date: 30 Jun 1998 12:21:35 -0400

Ray,

>>The Wrong Way Brot is the area of the Gold Shores just to the left of t=
he
right hand large brot.  I'd be interested in hearing a reaction to the
above.<<

Your example is from the Jm_03a formula.  I was referring strictly to the=

Mandelbrot set (type=3Dmandel) with parameters set to /0/0/0/0.  Buddha-l=
ike
midgets occur in many fractal types, not all of which share connectivity
and other properties.

Lee

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From: "Aldo Calpini" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) ICQ Number list - Rev.5
Date: 30 Jun 1998 19:34:02 +0200

pls add:

Aldo Calpini - #3093078 - 'dada'

Bye,
Aldo Calpini
<[e-mail]>

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down the T1, over the leased line,
off the bridge, past the firewall,
      ...nothing but Net."
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From: "Aldo Calpini" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) ICQ Number list - Rev.5
Date: 30 Jun 1998 19:34:02 +0200

pls add:

Aldo Calpini - #3093078 - 'dada'

Bye,
Aldo Calpini
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      ...nothing but Net."
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From: "Kim Bach Petersen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) par
Date: 30 Jun 1998 14:20:43 +0200

Another mandellake - what makes it worth a look is it's surroundings...

Enjoy, Kim.

========
mandelake          { ; a lake with nice surroundings
  reset=1960 type=mandel passes=2
  center-mag=-0.09703580287875599/+0.65263705627389850/2.09204e+007/1/124.\
  999 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=20000 logmap=64
  colors=CCC2jW0bb0Sh0Eq03x60t<6>z00z60<6>zy0tz0<4>Hz0Ex5<4>0gZ0Ye0Nk0Eq03\
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  >Tz0Lz0Fy2<4>2jW0bb0Sh0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz0Fy2<4>2jW0b\
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  }
mandelake2         { ; same lake in magnification
  reset=1950 type=mandel passes=2
  center-mag=-0.09703580179264795/+0.65263705782502150/1.216303e+008/1/102\
  .499 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=40000 logmap=1750
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  W0bb0Sh0Jn08u20x<6>v04z20<5>zm0zu0xz0<3>Tz0Lz0Fy2<3>4mQ
  }
========



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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Facing which
Date: 30 Jun 1998 17:10:12 EDT

How do you enter all of those parameters at the end of your e mails into
fractint?

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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Facing which
Date: 30 Jun 1998 17:00:06 -0500

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> How do you enter all of those parameters at the
> end of your e mails into fractint?
>

Try some of the following:

    The iFAQ (collected topics from the list) ù
        http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/iFAQ.html

    Help for FractInt Discussion List newcomers!! (Wizzle) ù
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/fractint_list_q&a.htm


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       Because we're almost always right.
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From: "Les St Clair" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 7 pars (mandel(fnIIfn))
Date: 30 Jun 1998 21:21:50 +0100

Hi Linda,

>>I couldn't get the overkill series to run.

You'll be pleased to know that they ran fine for me, so watch out for the June
compilation :)

Meanwhile, try these quickies...(p.s. I'm amazed at what can be produced from
just 12 iterations!)

cheers, Les

FRM:OK-12 {; TRY FN1 = SQR, FN2 = SQR
  z = c = pixel:
  z = fn1(z) + c;
  z = fn2(z) / c,
  |z| <= (5 + p1)
  ;SOURCE: overkill.frm
}


LesOK001           { ; "Silhouette"                         t=  0:02:01.00
                     ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200
                     ; (c) 1998 by Les St Clair [Par date: Jun 30, 1998]
                     ; e-mail to: [e-mail]
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=ok-12
  function=exp/log passes=1
  center-mag=+0.04479367968535197/-0.27952189066125890/207.9236/1/-90
  params=1000/50 float=y maxiter=12 inside=bof60 outside=real
  decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=000z3Az7BzAB<10>zYFz_Fz`G<7>znIzpIzrIzsIzuJzvJzxJzzKzzK000<176>00\
  3003002<11>000000100200<3>500600800<2>C00E00G00I00K00<3>U00W00Z00a00<2>i\
  00l00p00s00v00z0A
  }
LesOK002           { ; "Sine Curve"                         t=  0:01:34.03
                     ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200
                     ; (c) 1998 by Les St Clair [Par date: Jun 30, 1998]
                     ; e-mail to: [e-mail]
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=ok-12
  function=log/exp passes=1
  center-mag=0.31819/-0.00315022/0.821561/1/-90 params=1000/50 float=y
  maxiter=12 inside=bof60 outside=real decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=000<10>O2J<8>31a00d04f<8>0cz<7>05g00d20b<8>O2J<12>101201<8>M2HO2J\
  S2H<8>z00<8>zs0zv0zs0<7>z00<9>O2J<2>K2FI2EG2DE2BD2A<5>212000000<4>D1AF1C\
  H1DJ1FM2HO2JK2LK2N<6>30b00d04f<8>0cz<7>05g00d20b<8>O2J<13>000<4>A07C19D1\
  9D1AE1B<4>Y1Bb2Cf1A<4>z00<8>zs0zv0zs0<7>z00<9>O2J<13>000
  }
LesOK003           { ; "Golden Globule"                     t=  0:01:17.11
                     ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200
                     ; (c) 1998 by Les St Clair [Par date: Jun 30, 1998]
                     ; e-mail to: [e-mail]
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=ok-12
  function=flip/flip passes=1
  center-mag=-0.0881638/-0.00839419/0.7507614/1/-90 params=100/0
  float=y maxiter=12 inside=bof60 outside=imag decomp=256
  periodicity=0
  colors=uut<14>lcIkaFj`E<6>fU7eT6eS5eS5<29>O31N20O41N20<10>Q72R82R82S93TA\
  3<14>gQ5hR5iS4<3>mW3nX2nX2nY2<6>rc0rc0rb0<4>pZ1pY1oX2nX2<11>aL4`K4ZI3<2>\
  UG3SG4QF4OF5ME5<2>GC6DB7DB7<74>ssrttsttstts<12>vvtwwuwwt<9>wwgwwfwvevud<\
  6>soX
  }
LesOK004           { ; "Pin Cushion"                        t=  0:01:27.32
                     ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200
                     ; (c) 1998 by Les St Clair [Par date: Jun 30, 1998]
                     ; e-mail to: [e-mail]
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=ok-12
  function=conj/cos passes=1
  center-mag=0.0483368/-0.0584579/0.3911482/1/180 params=100000000/0
  float=y maxiter=12 inside=bof60 outside=imag decomp=256
  periodicity=0
  colors=B86<8>000zzz<9>opsmorlnrknr<12>YagW`fV_eTZeSYd<6>LRZJQYJPX<20>345\
  234122000zzz<27>nkUmkTmjSliQkhQigP<29>000zxy<39>PMLOLKNKK<20>000zzz<15>o\
  jdnicmgblf`le_kdY<8>dWMcUKbUK<11>OICNHCMGBKFAJE9ID9<3>D96
  cyclerange=0/255
  }
LesOK005           { ; "Bug"                                t=  0:02:28.90
                     ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200
                     ; (c) 1998 by Les St Clair [Par date: Jun 30, 1998]
                     ; e-mail to: [e-mail]
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=ok-12
  function=sin/tan passes=1
  center-mag=0.615644/0.00175867/8.180553/1/180 params=100000000/0
  float=y maxiter=12 inside=bof60 outside=imag decomp=256
  periodicity=0
  colors=kdY<8>dWMcUKbUK<11>OICNHCMGBKFAJE9ID9<13>000zzz<9>opsmorlnrknr<12\
  >YagW`fV_eTZeSYd<6>LRZJQYJPX<20>345234122000zzz<27>nkUmkTmjSliQkhQigP<29\
  >000zxy<39>PMLOLKNKK<20>000zzz<15>ojdnicmgblf`le_ cyclerange=0/255
  }




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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Posing a M'br
Date: 30 Jun 1998 17:05:35 -0700

At 02:30 AM 6/30/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Bud,
>...
>  However, to see these midgets, I would have to zoom each successively 10,
>15, or 20 times at maximum zoom.  In the intervening magnifications, the
>filaments would bifurcate and circle around so many times that it would be
>almost impossible to determine which one was finally entering the "fanny"
>of the eventual midget.  It would be easier and faster to zoom outward!

Well, here's another way.  As you have probably noticed,
the branch closest to the set has the "widest profile" (from
one side of the filigree to the other); of course the farther
zoomed in to a node you are, the less the difference.
With orderer chaos running the show, I doubt you'll find
a perfect solution; maybe you could write Mr. Mandelbrot
or someone equally well versed (e.g. Michael Barnsley).


Bud


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From: "Jason Hine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Posing a M'brot Problem!
Date: 30 Jun 1998 22:36:54 -0400

Bud wrote:
>>Based on the years I have spent poking around the M-set,
>>and unless I am mistaken, the "head" (pointy end) of the
>>midgets always point away from the main lake.


And Morgan replied:
>Sounds plausible to me; it certainly matches my experience - especially
>since the main M-set is the only one (that I've seen) that _doesn't_ have a
>filament working its way up the cardioid. Counterexamples welcome!

Counter-example: The filaments often (more than not?) form spirals which do not
contain a baby 'Brot at the center.  Examples are the spirals in the seahorse
valley (tight spirals), the tip of either of the two filaments extending off the
period three bulb (slow spirals), or the junction of the three main filaments
off the tip of the period three bulb (a very slow or 'static' spiral).  The
filaments forming these spirals contain evenly-spaced (if you consider a
continuous zoom into the spiral) baby 'Brots along their entire length.  These
babies will all have the same relative angle to the tangent to the spiral at the
point they are found.  Thus, their orientation in regards to the main body of
the Set is always changing... and since the spiral continues indefinitely, I'll
bet there's an infinite number of Babies pointing in any given direction.

But it sounds like Lee is asking something more specific...  I'll give it
another go when I return...  Jason Hine


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From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Posing a M'brot Problem!
Date: 30 Jun 1998 23:10:56 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Jason Hine wrote:
> Counter-example: The filaments often (more than not?) form spirals which do not
> contain a baby 'Brot at the center.  Examples are the spirals in the seahorse
> valley (tight spirals), the tip of either of the two filaments extending off the
> period three bulb (slow spirals), or the junction of the three main filaments
> off the tip of the period three bulb (a very slow or 'static' spiral).  The
> filaments forming these spirals contain evenly-spaced (if you consider a
> continuous zoom into the spiral) baby 'Brots along their entire length.  These
> babies will all have the same relative angle to the tangent to the spiral at the
> point they are found.  Thus, their orientation in regards to the main body of
> the Set is always changing... and since the spiral continues indefinitely, I'll
> bet there's an infinite number of Babies pointing in any given direction.

Hmm.  Well, if you're right about this -- all the babies will have the
same relative angle to the strand of the spiral they're on, no matter
which strand that happens to be -- then there must be at least two ways
they connect to the main set, since one of the filaments in the spiral
leads to the main set, and the rest lead away from it.

Kragen


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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Posing a M'brot Problem!
Date: 01 Jul 1998 16:36:50 +1200

At 22:36 30/06/98 -0400, Jason wrote:
>Bud wrote:
>>>Based on the years I have spent poking around the M-set,
>>>and unless I am mistaken, the "head" (pointy end) of the
>>>midgets always point away from the main lake.
>
>And Morgan replied:
>>Sounds plausible to me; it certainly matches my experience - especially
>>since the main M-set is the only one (that I've seen) that _doesn't_ have a
>>filament working its way up the cardioid. Counterexamples welcome!
>
>Counter-example: The filaments often (more than not?) form spirals which
do not
>contain a baby 'Brot at the center.
>
Ah, but Lee asks "Assume that I am looking at a midget somewhere very deep
in the Mandelbrot Set." so if there's no midget at the centre then it's not
a place where Lee's problem applies. What Lee is asking is which of the
filaments emerging from his given midget leads back to the main M-set. (In
a later post replying to Bud he's pointed out that looking at the behaviour
of smaller midgets on each of the filaments to see which way they're
pointing doesn't help as they are frequently too small to be seen.). Bud's
conjecture, which I'm still in agreement with, is that the filament that
leads from the given midget back to the main M-set is the one that emerges
from the cusp of the midget's cardioid. (And I am going to restraing myself
from continuing the South Park theme).

>... Thus, their orientation in regards to the main body of
>the Set is always changing... and since the spiral continues indefinitely,
>I'll bet there's an infinite number of Babies pointing in any given
direction.
>
Bud's phrase "midgets always point away from the main lake" refers not to
direction "as the crow flies" (the argument of the coordinates of the
midget) but in terms of a point constrained to moving within the set
itself; in the same way that the shortest path between two points is a
"straight line" even when the shortest path between London and Pudong is
quite blatantly curved.

Morgan



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