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Subject: (fractint) FOTD  01-12-01  (Fractal Activity [6])
Date: 01 Dec 2001 10:01:36 EST


FOTD -- December 01, 2001 (Rating 6)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

The hectic activity that fills today's image inspires the name
"Fractal Activity".  Fragments of all shape and size swirl about
in a hazy atmosphere, with a small mis-shapen midget at the
center holding it all together.  Several long, thin elements
lend a vaguely sinister air to the whole scene.

The formula Z^1.65+C generates the parent fractal, which at a
level 130.5 turns up the logarithmic spiral, generates a roughly
Mandeloid-shaped bay with a large area of extended chaos on the
south shore, a large irregular bud on the north shore, and a
smaller bud on the east shore.  Today's scene is located in the
north valley of the smaller east bud.

The overall bluish cast of the color palette creates the hazy
atmospheric effect of the scene, which rates an above average 6,
though it falls short of the exceptional quality that would rate
a 7 or above.  The render time of 22 minutes is a bit slow, but
the resulting impatience can be eliminated by downloading the
completed GIF image file from the W.W.Web at the URL:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

or at:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

But give Paul and Scott a chance to render and post the image
before going for the download.

The fractal weather Friday here at Fractal Central was once
again unpleasant for cats who like to romp outdoors in warm dry
conditions.  With a temperature of 71F 21.5C, it was warm
enough, but the heavy clouds and occasional light rain made it
just too wet for outdoor comfort for cats.

We've come to the end of another FOTD, and once again I failed
to philosophize.  I've got a little work to finish and lots of
philosophizing to do before I settle down to search for the next
fractal -- the fractal that will appear as the FOTD for December
2.  So until the next time arrives, take lots of care, and what
ever happened to Jay Hill and Doctor J?


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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  p=real(p2)+PI
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  r=real(p2)-q
  Z=C=Pixel:
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}

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) FOTD  02-12-01  (Mandelbrot Billows [5])
Date: 02 Dec 2001 09:44:37 EST


FOTD -- December 02, 2001 (Rating 5)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

For today's fractal we once again break out the MandelbrotBC1
formula.  This time we draw the Z^1.6+C Mandeloid fractal as it
appears 131 levels up the logarithmic spiral.  At this lofty
height the fractal appears as a large open area broken by
several spectacular discontinuities.  Many small protobuds line
the southern shore, which is marked by an area of chaos that
extends far inland, constantly trying to organize itself into
well-defined filaments as it dies out, but never quite
succeeding.

Many tiny midgets lie in this chaotic area.  Today's scene, with
its even tinier midget, lies in the suburbs of one of these tiny
midgets.  When I first saw today's image, I didn't know quite
what to make of it.  Eventually, the impression of billowing
clouds of smoke came to mind, and I named it "Mandelbrot
Billows".

I'm not quite satisfied with the colors.  Dark blue would give a
better impression of billowing smoke clouds than the present
dark green.  Yet the image has a kind of uniqueness that made me
decide to leave it untouched.  As a result, I can rate the image
at no more than a 5, a rating that is average.  But don't be
disappointed -- even an average fractal is well worth a look.

To have that look at today's fractal, one may run the attached
parameter file and wait 25 minutes, or give Paul and Scott a
chance to render and post the image and download it from one of
their web sites.

The URL of Paul's site is:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

Scott's site can be found at:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

The fractal weather Saturday featured sunny skies, light winds,
and a balmy temperature of 73F 23C.  It was absolutely perfect
for the fractal cats, who were in and out all day.  But since we
normally see ice at this time of year, some local cold weather
lovers are beginning to ask where winter is.  And of course,
those who enjoy having something to worry about are once again
fearful that it is the beginning of the global warming that will
eventually end life on earth.  As for myself -- I see nothing
more apocalyptic than an unusually warm and pleasant Autumn in
the local area.

Regardless of the import of the mildness, it's another perfect
day, it's not yet 10am, and the cats are already worrying me to
let them out.  When the fractal cats want to be outdoors, they
had better be let out, or else they become most annoying.  So
I'm off to open the door.  Until next time, take care, and what
ever happened to the 'nuclear winter' crisis?


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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frm:MandelbrotBC1   { ; by several Fractint users
  e=p1, a=imag(p2)+100
  p=real(p2)+PI
  q=2*PI*fn1(p/(2*PI))
  r=real(p2)-q
  Z=C=Pixel:
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    IF(imag(Z)>r)
      Z=Z+flip(2*PI)
    ENDIF
    Z=exp(e*(Z+flip(q)))+C
  |Z|<a
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================

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From: "George Priest" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) fractint documentation
Date: 02 Dec 2001 16:18:51 -0800

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Thanks

George Priest
[e-mail]

"But why is it mere talk?  Because, my friend,  beauty, purity, =
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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint documentation
Date: 02 Dec 2001 23:21:42 -0600

George Priest wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me what format is used
> for the fractint.doc file.

Plain Text.  Just use Wordpad or similar document viewer.

But if you want the page breaks to be correct, then use MS-Word and edit
the file by modifying every occurance of:

     "               Fractint Version 20.02                  Page"

with the following:

     "^m               Fractint Version 20.02                  Page"


Sincerely,
P.N.L.
http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go

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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Web gallery
Date: 02 Dec 2001 23:53:00 -0800

After almost eight months in limbo, I am resurrecting the site.

Bud's Fractal Pages went off the air in late April because of
a change in policy after one in a series of ISP buyouts that
left me with only 5 MB of storage.  Since I have yet to arrange
a new home for my site, I have decided to display one gallery
at my current location.  It contains 20 new images.  You are
invited to view them at

http://veenet.value.net/~mchris/fractals.htm

For the IFL and others, please don't bother to update your
links just yet.  Now that I have new content, I don't think it
will be too long before I take the plunge into a bigger pool.


Regards,
        Bud



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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD  03-12-01  (A Vision of Sylphs [3])
Date: 03 Dec 2001 10:41:19 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- December 03, 2001 (Rating 3)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Today's rather slow image rates only a lowly 3.  If I worked on
the colors, I could raise it to a 5 or 6, but due to the world
news, I just don't have the enthusiasm necessary to work with
fractals.

I named today's image "A Vision of Sylphs".  A sylph is an
elemental nature spirit that dwells (or is supposed to dwell) in
the air.  Having never seen a sylph, I have no idea of their
appearance, but some of the elements in today's image give the
impression of a swirling dance of atmosphere.  This is reason
enough to justify the name.

The formula of the image is Z^1.55+C, sliced 97 levels up the
logarithmic spiral.  The render time of 43 minutes is far too
long for such a disappointing image.  A far better way to see
the sylphs is to download the GIF image from the W.W.Web at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

or at:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

But give Paul and Scott a chance to render and post the image
before visiting their sites.

The fractal weather Sunday here at Fractal Central turned cloudy
and chilly.  No rain fell, but the temperature of 52F 11C and
lack of warm sun limited the fractal cats' time outdoors to less
than an hour.  When they can't go out, the cats get hungry, so
they spent most of the afternoon indoors, worrying me for more
food.

Right now I'm worried about some work that should be finished
but is not.  The best way to finish it is to start.  And though
I don't feel like doing so, that's what I'm about to do.  Until
next time, take care, and what is wrong with humanity?.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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  e=p1, a=imag(p2)+100
  p=real(p2)+PI
  q=2*PI*fn1(p/(2*PI))
  r=real(p2)-q
  Z=C=Pixel:
    Z=log(Z)
    IF(imag(Z)>r)
      Z=Z+flip(2*PI)
    ENDIF
    Z=exp(e*(Z+flip(q)))+C
  |Z|<a
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: Guy Hammer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint documentation
Date: 03 Dec 2001 11:27:09 -0800 (PST)

On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Paul N. Lee wrote:
> But if you want the page breaks to be correct, then use MS-Word and edit
> the file by modifying every occurance of:
>
>      "               Fractint Version 20.02                  Page"
>
> with the following:
>
>      "^m               Fractint Version 20.02                  Page"

Hmm, my fractinit.doc file (from xfractint) already has the form feed
charactors...
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From: Programmer Dude <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint documentation
Date: 03 Dec 2001 13:37:15 -0600

> On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Paul N. Lee wrote:

>> with the following:
>>
>>      "^m               Fractint Version 20.02                  Page"

Would ^L be better or are the pages really just one line off?

p.s.
Some printers treat a single ^M as *just* a Carriage Return, and do
not advance the paper, so in some cases ^M might not even work....

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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint documentation
Date: 03 Dec 2001 14:55:08 -0600

Guy Hammer wrote:
>
> Hmm, my fractinit.doc file (from xfractint)
> already has the form feed charactors...
>

I had used another text editor on mine and it seems to have eliminated
the manual page break character x'0C', and left only the
line-feed/carriage-return characters x'0D0A' within the file.  After
running the "makedoc" again, I see they are back to normal.


Programmer Dude wrote:
>
> Would ^L be better or are the pages really
> just one line off?
>
> p.s.
> Some printers treat a single ^M as *just* a
> Carriage Return, and do not advance the paper,
> so in some cases ^M might not even work....

If using MS-Word, the ^l (lowercase "L") is normally for a manual line
break when doing a replace, and the ^m is for a manual page break.  Try
doing a replace option in MS-Word, select the MORE button and choose the
SPECIAL drop down list.  You will notice all the characters available.

Those "special" characters are only representations for the actual
hexadecimal value which will be used.

Sincerely,
P.N.L.
http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go

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From: Programmer Dude <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint documentation
Date: 03 Dec 2001 15:10:50 -0600

"Paul N. Lee" wrote:

> Try doing a replace option in MS-Word, select the MORE button and
> choose the SPECIAL drop down list.  You will notice all the characters
> available.

Heh!  Cool!!  I learned somethin', Thanks!!!

Apparently you can use them as *search* patterns, too.  THAT's gonna
come in handy....

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Subject: (fractint) FOTD  04-12-01  (A Make-good Fractal [8])
Date: 04 Dec 2001 11:07:08 EST


FOTD -- December 04, 2001 (Rating 8)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Today's fractal is named "A Makegood Fractal".  I felt that I
needed to make good the abysmal fractal that passed for the FOTD
of December 3.  Today, I atone for yesterday's 3-rated let-down
by presenting a fractal that rates a lofty 8.

The formula takes 0.03 parts of Z^13, adds 0.03 parts of Z^(-23)
and then adds (1/C).  This formula draws a narrow ring of lakes
with many places to explore for midgets.  For today's scene, I
chose a rudimentary valley along the negative X-axis.

Today's image has been colored with the outside-fmod option,
with the proximity factor set to 1.5.  I rendered it with the
passes set to 'b'.  This is not only the fastest option with
this particular scene, it also eliminates several unwanted holes.

Running the parameter file by the fastest rendering option is
actually irrelevant, since all methods render within a few
seconds of one minute on my machine.  The render time will be
less than one minute on anything faster than 200mhz.

Those who still wish to download the GIF image can find it at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and at:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

The fractal weather Monday at Fractal Central blossomed sunny
and mild with light winds.  The 59F 15C temperature must have
been just what the cats wanted, because they passed the
afternoon resting on the porch and exploring remote parts of the
yard.  When the grey cat that lives up the street approached,
Tippy quickly chased it away.  Thomas checked Tippy carefully
when he returned to the yard, then they both settled down for
the rest of the afternoon.

The dynamic duo is still settled this morning, so I'd best get
the day's tasks started before they wake up and become a
distraction.  Until next time and next fractal, take care, and
maybe cats will succeed where we fail.


Jim Muth
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From:     John Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD  04-12-01  (A Make-good Fractal [8])
Date: 04 Dec 2001 19:12:35 +0000

On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:07:08 EST, [e-mail] wrote:

FOTD -- December 04, 2001 (Rating 8)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Today's fractal is named "A Makegood Fractal".  I felt that I=
 needed
to make good the abysmal fractal that passed for the FOTD of=
 December
3.


I rather liked that one, too!

Best wishes

John
-- John Lewis, [e-mail] on 12/04/2001


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) FOTD  05-12-01  (Half-Half-Shells [8])
Date: 05 Dec 2001 10:59:03 EST


FOTD -- December 05, 2001 (Rating 8)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

(It is widely believed that good things, [and bad things also],
come in groups of three.  Today we have the second 8-rated image
in a row.  Hopefully, the saying is right and tomorrow's FOTD
will also rate an 8.)

Many things come on a half-shell.  Oysters and Venuses are just
two of them.  And as today's image shows, fractals also can come
on the half-shell.  Today's image shows a scene in fractal-land,
where a midget is surrounded by half-shells.  And some of the
half-shells are only half there, which makes them quarter-shells
or "Half-Half-Shells", which explains the name I gave the image.

The formula of the image is totally whimsical, as can be
confirmed by checking the parameters.  These random parameters
draw a parent fractal shaped like an oversized figure 8, which
needs an outzoom before it fits on the screen.  This figure-8
fractal is actually a grossly distorted Mandeloid rotated 180
degrees, with East Valley on the west side of the main bay.
Today's scene is located rather deep in the chaos of the
southern shore of this valley.

The coloring makes more of the scene than it is actually worth.
The rating of 8 owes about 3 points to the colors, which are due
more to chance than any effort on my part.  The parameter file
runs in 1/2 hour on my old machine.  This is slow, but not too
much work for such a highly rated image.

The simplest way to see the image is to download it from one of
the FOTD web sites.  Those sites can be found at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and at:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

It was summer in December here at Fractal Central on Tuesday.
And to make matters even worse, this is the northern hemisphere,
where Summer is expected in June, July, August and September.
The warm sun, light winds and temperature of 68F 20C pleased the
cats, who were reasonably quiet as they enjoyed the unusual
conditions.  The local ski resort operators are not so happy
however.  It is difficult to have snow with a temperature like
summer.  Hopefully, Winter will arrive by the holidays.  It is
even more difficult for Santa sleighs to be used when the ground
is bare.

That's the news from Fractal Central for today.  I'll return in
24 hours or so with another fractal, a bit more news, and if I
find the inspiration, some philosophy.  Until then, take care,
and find inspiration in your fractals.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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Subject: (fractint) FOTD  06-12-01  (Honeycombed Midget [7])
Date: 06 Dec 2001 10:13:05 EST


FOTD -- December 06, 2001 (Rating 7)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

I'm a bit busier today than I would prefer to be, so the
discussion will have to be relatively short.

Well, we don't have the third FOTD in a row that rates an 8,
but today's rating of 7 comes pretty close.  The formula takes
Z^(-12.5), adds 10 times as much Z^(-1.25), then adds (1/C), to
create a fractal with more convolutions than a government
bureaucracy.

This parent fractal is indescribable, but contains many bays and
valleys.  Today's midget is located on the shoreline of one of
these valleys, in an area with elements that resemble those of a
Julia set.  This area would never be expected to hold midgets.
I looked there only because I often look for midgets where none
are expected.

The unusual appearance of today's image is a result of setting
both the inside and outside to <fmod>, with a proximity of 1.
The name, "Honeycombed Midget" has little relevance to the
image.  The name was given to an earlier version, and carried
over to the present version because I like the sound of the
name.

The parameter file renders in 8 minutes on my outdated machine.
The already rendered image downloads in less time from:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

or from:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

The fractal weather Wednesday here at Fractal Central was like
mid-summer, with blue skies, fluffy white cumulus clouds, and a
temperature of 75F 24C.  The fractal cats, who enjoy summer,
were happy all afternoon, even in the shade of the holly trees.
Their only irritation came when the day ended early, but these
are the shortest days of the year here at latitude 39N, and the
sun is gone by 4:30pm.

And I had better get going on the day's work if I hope to have
it finished by the time this shortened day ends.  Until next
FOTD, take care, and what will tomorrow bring?


Jim Muth
[e-mail]
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) FOTD  07-12-01  (Golden Chrysanthemum [6])
Date: 07 Dec 2001 09:21:57 EST


FOTD -- December 07, 2001 (Rating 6)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Life is filled with disappointments.  I still remember the
disappointment I felt as a child, when I discovered that
professional wrestling is a performing art rather than a
competitive sport.  I felt the same disappointment when I
realized that baseball is more about making money than having
fun playing a game.  I never really believed in the Easter bunny
or Santa Claus, but I did believe Ripley.  Perhaps the biggest
let-down of all came when I realized that some of Ripley's
impossible "Believe it or Not" wonders were in fact untrue.

All these let-downs were justified in the late 1980's however,
when I discovered fractals.  Life has never been the same since.

Today's slightly above average fractal image reminds me of a
golden chrysanthemum, so that's what I named it.  The image is
actually a scene lying in the suburbs of a larger midget, which
is located near a still larger midget, which lies north and west
of an indescribable parent.

The scene is disconnected from its parent.  This disconnection
is reflected in the golden rings surrounding the midget, which
form concentric circles in no way joined to each other or to the
midget they surround.  The whole assemblage resembles a flower
such as a chrysanthemum or aster, and makes a pleasant enough
picture to rate a 6.

The parameter file runs in three minutes; the completed GIF
image downloads from:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

or from:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

in even less time.

The weather Thursday here at Fractal Central was once again
summer-like, with blue skies, gentle breezes, and a temperature
of 73F 23C.  Cats of the fractal variety enjoy such conditions,
and Thomas and Tippy are no exception.  The dynamic duo passed
the afternoon sleeping in their chairs on the porch, opening
their eyes occasionally to be sure that no unwanted cats were
intruding.

Since it's the last day of the work week and there's still work
to be done, I had best get busy.  But I'll return with more
goodies in 24 hours.  Until then, take care, and accentuate the
fractal positive.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD  07-12-01  (Golden Chrysanthemum [6])
Date: 07 Dec 2001 11:41:17 -0600

The site screams for a sight of:

"the dynamic duo"; "Cats of the fractal variety . . . . ."

D. Freed

[e-mail] wrote:

> FOTD -- December 07, 2001 (Rating 6)
>
> Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
>
> Life is filled with disappointments.  I still remember the
> disappointment I felt as a child, when I discovered that
> professional wrestling is a performing art rather than a
> competitive sport.  I felt the same disappointment when I
> realized that baseball is more about making money than having
> fun playing a game.  I never really believed in the Easter bunny
> or Santa Claus, but I did believe Ripley.  Perhaps the biggest
> let-down of all came when I realized that some of Ripley's
> impossible "Believe it or Not" wonders were in fact untrue.
>
> All these let-downs were justified in the late 1980's however,
> when I discovered fractals.  Life has never been the same since.
>
> Today's slightly above average fractal image reminds me of a
> golden chrysanthemum, so that's what I named it.  The image is
> actually a scene lying in the suburbs of a larger midget, which
> is located near a still larger midget, which lies north and west
> of an indescribable parent.
>
> The scene is disconnected from its parent.  This disconnection
> is reflected in the golden rings surrounding the midget, which
> form concentric circles in no way joined to each other or to the
> midget they surround.  The whole assemblage resembles a flower
> such as a chrysanthemum or aster, and makes a pleasant enough
> picture to rate a 6.
>
> The parameter file runs in three minutes; the completed GIF
> image downloads from:
>
>           <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
>
> or from:
>
>           <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>
>
> in even less time.
>
> The weather Thursday here at Fractal Central was once again
> summer-like, with blue skies, gentle breezes, and a temperature
> of 73F 23C.  Cats of the fractal variety enjoy such conditions,
> and Thomas and Tippy are no exception.  The dynamic duo passed
> the afternoon sleeping in their chairs on the porch, opening
> their eyes occasionally to be sure that no unwanted cats were
> intruding.
>
> Since it's the last day of the work week and there's still work
> to be done, I had best get busy.  But I'll return with more
> goodies in 24 hours.  Until then, take care, and accentuate the
> fractal positive.
>
> Jim Muth
> [e-mail]
> [e-mail]
>
> START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================
>
> Gold_Chrysanthemum { ; time=0:03:18.50--SF5 on a P200
>   reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm
>   formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1
>   center-mag=-0.47904926844684050/+2.689928561895989\
>   00/7.255801e+011/1/45.0104028392414861/-0.01121875\
>   11152195482 params=1/-12.5/10/-1.25/0/525 float=y
>   maxiter=550 inside=0 logmap=63
>   colors=00087aA8`BBZDDYEGWGHVHKTILRKOQLQONTNOVLQYKR\
>   ZITaHRcEReBVg8Yj7`l5co4dp2gt1ju0mx0pz0rz0uz0xz0zz0\
>   zz0zz0zz0wz0rz1oz5jzAezEazIZzLVzQQzVLzZIzcEzgAzl5z\
>   p2zt7wrBtpGppKmoOjmRgmWdl`aldZjiWilTipQguNezKezHdz\
>   EdzGezHizIlzIoxKrwOuuTxmYzeazZezRezKezDdz5cw4ar4`o\
>   4`l2Zi2Ye2Wa2VZ1TW1RT1QQ1QN4NR7LW8I`BHdDEiGDmHArK8\
>   wL7zNEtOKlQQdRYYTcQViIWpBYw4Zz0Zz0OzVGzzNzzTzzZwzd\
>   uzjuzpuzmuzjuzguzeuzcuz`uzYuxWuxTuwQuuNutLutIurGup\
>   EupDurBurAur8ut7ut5ut4uu2uu2uu7utBurEurIupLupQuoTu\
>   mYum`uldulgujluiouitugwugzuizuizuizuizuizuizumpuri\
>   uu`uzRuzKuzLuzNuwOurOumQugRucRuZTuVVuOVuKWuGYuBYu7\
>   IuV4up0uz0uz7uzGuzOuxNuwNuwLuuLuuKuuKutKutIutIurHu\
>   rHurGupGupGupEulDugBucBuZAuV8wQ8zL7zH5zD5z84z42z02\
>   z0Iz0Zz0oz0xz8zzKzzVazc2zj1zl0zm0zo0zo0zp0zr0zt0zt\
>   0zu0zw0zx0zx0zz0zz0zz0zz0zx0zt4zoAzjEzgKzcQzZVzV`z\
>   QdzNjzIpzEDzrHztLztOztTzt
>   }
>
> frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
> a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
> g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
> k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
> z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
> |z| < l
> }
>
> END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================
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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Vicious Rumor...
Date: 07 Dec 2001 20:56:09 -0600

There has been talk from the Developer section of possibly modifying
FractInt to the point it might mean saved PAR files would not generate
the same image as it did when the parameters were saved.  This would put
the issue of backwards compatability at stake.

Apparently not enough individuals have demonstrated a public interest to
show the Developers that old PAR files are worth keeping.  Any "artists"
out there concerned about their past works??

Sincerely,
P.N.L.
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From: Mike Traynor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Vicious Rumor...
Date: 07 Dec 2001 22:12:38 -0500

Paul

> There has been talk from the Developer section of possibly modifying
> FractInt to the point it might mean saved PAR files would not generate
> the same image as it did when the parameters were saved.  This would put
> the issue of backwards compatability at stake.
>
> Apparently not enough individuals have demonstrated a public interest to
> show the Developers that old PAR files are worth keeping.  Any "artists"
> out there concerned about their past works??

If you open it up to enthusiastic Fractint users who don't have delusions
of being artists, I'd be dismayed to see all the par files I have rendered
incompatible with future versions of Fractint.  That said, if they were
convertible by manipulation of the text files, it would alleviate my concern.

Mike

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (fractint) Vicious Rumor...
Date: 07 Dec 2001 22:27:26 -0500

Hi Paul,

I have a HUGE collection of pars, both my own, which go back to about 1990
and many, many others. A few of my pars generate "correctly" only with
Fraction 17.3 or earlier, so I have archived the old version just to be able
to regenerate the images. I can understand the old change, which was because
of a bug, but I would be very unhappy if a new version of Fractint would
force me to archive another version just so I could continue to regenerate
the old images. Tim, is the rumor true??

Ron Barnett

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Paul N. Lee
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:56 PM


There has been talk from the Developer section of possibly modifying
FractInt to the point it might mean saved PAR files would not generate
the same image as it did when the parameters were saved.  This would put
the issue of backwards compatability at stake.

Apparently not enough individuals have demonstrated a public interest to
show the Developers that old PAR files are worth keeping.  Any "artists"
out there concerned about their past works??

Sincerely,
P.N.L.
http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go

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Subject: Re: (fractint) Vicious Rumor...
Date: 07 Dec 2001 22:36:00 EST

As one who'd like to sell some images and resell some older ones, I'd hope
that a par will generate the same image in each version of Fractint.  I
shudder to think of all my old parfile being lost to me.  If the old par
files could be made usable through batch-able text corrections utility that
would be good, too.  If they can't i'll be hanging onto my old version and
hoping that it will still be archived against the need to correctly render my
old stuff.

~renrad

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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Vicious Rumor...
Date: 07 Dec 2001 21:52:30 -0600

Paul wrote:

> "Vicious Rumor..."

Geesh Paul, calm down! <grin!>

> There has been talk from the Developer section of possibly modifying
> FractInt to the point it might mean saved PAR files would not generate
> the same image as it did when the parameters were saved.  This would put
> the issue of backwards compatability at stake.

This is a somewhat (!) melodramatic exaggeration of what we were
talking about. What we were talking about was a peculiarity Jonathan
rediscovered in the Julia algorithm.  A way to see it is to compare
MarksJulia with parameters .3, .6 to the default Julia. This should
be the same as the default Julia, but one color ring is missing and
all the other colors off by one color. This is a idiosyncracy of
Fractint's original Mandelbrot algorthm as coded by Bert Tyler.

If we "fix" this sort of thing it might break exact backward
compatability.

A way we have dealt with this in the past is to key off the version
number stored in PAR files. All PAR files start with reset=<version>.
We have generally gone to a lot of trouble to make old PARs render
correctly. Jonathan could tell you a lot about this. We look at the
version stored in the PAR file, and use the old version's algorithm
when rendering an old PAR. The price we pay is that we have to code
both the old and the new algorithm.

> Apparently not enough individuals have demonstrated a public interest to
> show the Developers that old PAR files are worth keeping.  Any "artists"
> out there concerned about their past works??

The exact quote of what I wrote is:

BEGIN QUOTE
In the past, we would be very loath to change something like this
because our artists would go nuts wanting to protect their legacy
images. But since we don't hear from them anymore, I'm not sure it
matters. But while fractint is no longer a dominant program, it still
does have a following.

Let me pose a question to this list. Is Fractint backward
compatability still an issue for you? Do you mind if we eliminate
quirks and make the program more uniform, or are you concerned that
legacy images render the same.

Hmmm - upon reflection, since we have things like Jim's "fractal of
the day", there still are accumulating libraries of PAR files. Maybe
it is important that we keep backward compatibility so as much as
possible fractint renders old PAR files the way it used to.
END QUOTE

As you see I was thinking out loud, and raised a question, then gave
my own answer. The "vicious rumor" was actually a question to see
what folks think, not a statement. (I actually forgot which list I
was in and thought I was asking folks in this list.)

So much for the vicious rumor <grin!>

At this stage in Fractint's life cycle we certainly would not do
anything rash to break backwards compatability. My suggestion for
Jonathan's original query would be to try to emulate Fractint's
idiosyncracies in Xfractint (except for integer math, that's a lost
cause.)

Tim


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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) non vicious non-rumors and humor <g!>
Date: 07 Dec 2001 22:54:35 -0600

I was trying to figure out whether to chatise Paul for his "vicious
rumor" post or not.

My first thought was to take umbrage that he read a post I had made
on the developer's list  then posted a somewhat hysterical
misrepresentation of it here.  This thought lasted about 3 seconds,
maybe five seconds max. :-)

However I decided to applaud Paul instead for livening up this sorta
dead list with some juicy stuff. If I had a payroll I would have to
put him on it to make posts like that <grin!> It sure did bring out
some passionate replies in defense of new versions rendering people's
PAR collections accurately.

Paul is totally and absolutely forgiven <says Tim with saintly
smile!>

Maybe we should have a contest to find other weirdnesses of Fractint.
Can anybody state in clear mathematical language EXACTLY what
fractint is doing with the default mandelbrot and julia algorithms?

This is amusing really, because Bert Tyler never claimed to be a
theorist, mathematician, or to have a deep knowlefdge of fractals. He
was an expert programmer in assembler. He liked "stylish blue" for
the background, so he didn't start with color 0 (black) but with
color 1 (blue in the default palette). As you can see, an initial
iteration gets skipped because as a programmer Bert saw that
0*0 + c = c, so he decided to just start with z(0) = c rather than
z(0) = 0, and save one cycle. Bert's motivation was speed pure and
simple.

This consternation about backward compatibility makes me chuckle. In
a few feverish nights of work in 1987 Bert coded the Mandelbrot and
Julia algorithm. Today, in 2001, 14 years later, the default image is
exactly the same as it was then. But the there are quite a number of
different routines in Fractint that all do the default mandelbrot.

1. Bert's original 386 32 bit integer math mandelbrot/Julia code. I
think it has been modified a little over the years by some people who
found ways to speed it up slightly.

2. 16 bit integer math. When you are calculating the default
Mandelbrot and low zoom ratios, Fractint actually abandons Bert's
code and uses 16 bit integer math!  Fractint seamlessly "shifts" to
32 bit integer math when the 16 bit precision limits is reached.

3. Floating point math coded in C. I probably wrote this originally.
(Don't try coding the Mandelbrot algorithm in C at home, it's hard,
remember, I really am a rocket scientist <g!>)

4. Floating point math coded in assembler with floating point
coprocessor calls. Jonathan knows about this.

5. Finally, arbitrary precision code that allows you to zoom all the
way to 10^1500 power. (There are actually several versions of this in
Fractint, if memory severs, so maybe this is 5. and 6.)

Should probably add the formular parser which itself has integer
math, C language floating point math, and floating point assembler.
That would make alternative codings 6., 7., and 8. I haven't checked
in an awfully long time, but I believe it is easy to code up a
mandelbrot and julia that look exactlyt like Fractint's mandel and
julai images, complete with Bert's idiosyncracies.

With various fractint command line options you can render the default
Mandelbrot with ALL these various coding schemes, and they all work
nearly identically with the default Mandelbrot/Julia, with virtually
every pixel the same color. (I say "virtually" because undoubtedly
there is a pixel or two that gets color differently).

Here's an assignment for Fractint lovers. Can somebody make a PAR
file that makes the default mandelbrot using ALL the different code
options I have mentioned? You'll have to dig out debugflag.doc. How
many entries in the PAR file are there? Variations of parser formulas
don't count - you are allowed one parser formula but you can use
different fractint options to force the use ofd different code.

So the image Bert generated with his idiosyncratic Mandelbrot/Julia
implementation that he ran on an early model 386 (I had to argue with
him to get him to add 286 support, because my machine was a 286) is
the same image you get with today's fractint, even though the
computer is totally different, and most of the code is totally
different than the code he wrote.

Now to complete the story, in December 2001 Jonathan Osuch notices
the peculiarities of Bert's 1987 code, we have a brief email exchange
that discusses backward's compatibility, then

EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT!

VICIOUS RUMOR - FRACTINT TEAM THREATENS TO CHANGE BERT TYLER'S
RENDERING OF THE MANDELBROT AND JULIA IN FRACTINT!!!

Goodnight Folks!

Tim

As he heads to bed having spent a happy evening ROTFL :-)


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From: harry <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Vicious Rumor...
Date: 08 Dec 2001 00:44:19 -0500

<lurk mode off>

Hmmm... I'd just archive the 'old' software to support my old files
if that were the case...

<resume lurk>

H^) harry bissell

"Paul N. Lee" wrote:

> There has been talk from the Developer section of possibly modifying
> FractInt to the point it might mean saved PAR files would not generate
> the same image as it did when the parameters were saved.  This would put
> the issue of backwards compatability at stake.
>
> Apparently not enough individuals have demonstrated a public interest to
> show the Developers that old PAR files are worth keeping.  Any "artists"
> out there concerned about their past works??
>
> Sincerely,
> P.N.L.
> --------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) non vicious non-rumors and humor <g!>
Date: 07 Dec 2001 23:52:19 -0600

Tim Wegner wrote:
>
> I was trying to figure out whether to
> chatise Paul for his "vicious rumor"
> post or not.

I do not mind, my skin has become quite tough from such in various other
Lists and Forums.     ;-}

>
> However I decided to applaud Paul instead
> for livening up this sorta dead list with
> some juicy stuff.

That was my intention.  Plus that Subject line does state it as a
"rumor".     ;-}

>
> EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT!
>
> As he heads to bed having spent a happy evening ROTFL :-)

They say one sleeps much better after having a good laugh before going
to bed.   :-)

Sincerely,
P.N.L.
http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go

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From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Vicious Rumor...
Date: 08 Dec 2001 08:12:22 -0600

> At this stage in Fractint's life cycle we certainly would not do
> anything rash to break backwards compatibility. My suggestion for
> Jonathan's original query would be to try to emulate Fractint's
> idiosyncracies in Xfractint (except for integer math, that's a lost
> cause.)

That would be why the developer's version is at 20.2.

Some time ago, I don't recall who or when, it was  pointed out to me that
the julia fractal was incorrect.  The green ring around the default image
should extend beyond the border of the image.  At the time, I verified that
it had always been like that and concluded that it must be correct.  This
was probably during the era of "The Bad Head Day".

Bad_Head_Day?      { ; Ever had one of those days?
                     ; By Jonathan Osuch
                     ; This is a slow one.
                     ;  Version 1921 Patchlevel 22
  reset=1921 type=manlam(fn||fn) function=sqrt/cos passes=1
  center-mag=+2.96853387542126300/+0.00038114232461102/26547.1
  params=0/0/0.5 float=y maxiter=10000 bailoutest=real inside=0
  logmap=11
  colors=00e000L00<13>z00<2>p00l00h00d00a00<9>000<15>zX0<15>000<15>ut0<15>\
  000GA4<12>2v10z00w0<14>000<15>00z<3>00i00a<8>000<16>z0Xv0Vr0Tp0Sn0R<12>0\
  00<15>p0w<15>000<15>zzz<14>444
  }

So, this last weekend, I took the pentium mandelbrot code and ported it over
to nasm to drop into the Xfractint code.  That worked just fine until I
started to compare the images generated with the Xfractint C code and what I
had just ported over.  There were problems with outside options and the
julia images seemed wrong.  I recalled that I had earlier fixed a problem
with the julia code in Xfractint by moving the location of a decrement
instruction (we decrement from maxit instead of increment from 0).  This was
to remove the black border around the image.  Since I couldn't compare the
image created by Fractint and the image created by Xfractint at the same
time, I concluded I had fixed the problem.  Being a slow learner, it wasn't
until I compared the images generated by the two versions of the code on
Monday or Tuesday that I concluded that something was seriously wrong.

At present, I still consider the Xfractint code to be unstable and have not
added backwards compatibility when I correct problems.  The DOS version is
the base version and I do add backwards compatibility when I have to when a
fix changes how images are generated.  Understand that this invariably
causes a speed hit.

In the future, the base code will have to be changed to Xfractint as more
people get XP'd.  Which, in all probability, Fractint in its current form
will not run under.  The Xfractint code needs to be ported to the djgpp
compiler.  In combination with incorporation of a graphics manipulation
package such as Allegro, this will allow a pseudo windows version to run on
the dreaded XP.  This is a big project.  If there is interest, I'll discuss
this in more detail.

Jonathan



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) FOTD  08-12-01  (Fractal Saturday [5])
Date: 08 Dec 2001 10:30:13 EST


FOTD -- December 08, 2001 (Rating 5)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Now that we've safely weathered the impending Fractint backward
incompatibility crisis, it's time for the ubiquitous FOTD.  Due
to the holiday decorating that must be done today, I have little
time for a lengthy discussion, and the fractal itself rates only
a 5, but the image is still worth at least a quick glance.

The parent fractal, which combines portions of Z^(-1.87) and
Z^(-18.7), is indescribable, as nearly all fractals are.  One of
its features is a prominent bud cut off by a single-and-double
valley.  Today's scene is located at the edge of one branch of
the double half of the valley.

I used the <fmod> coloring option on both the inside and outside
of today's image.  The resulting terraced effect is impressive
around the fringes of the image, but closer to the midget the
terraces break down into a not-very-attractive area of chaos.
This chaos can be reduced but not eliminated by rendering at a
higher resolution than the standard 640x480.

Unable to think of a descriptive name, I settled on "Fractal
Saturday", which like a name such as "Symphony No. 25", merely
catalogs the image.  (Of course, the comparison is not exact.
Creating a symphony requires much more effort than finding a
fractal.)

The 11-minute render time is a bit too slow for a merely average
image.  In today's case, the wiser choice is to download the
completed GIF image from:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

or from:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

The fractal weather Friday was a big come-down from the day
before.  Cloudy skies and a temperature of 63F 17C are not ideal
for cats, especially when combined with a chilly north breeze.
Meeting with such imperfect conditions beyond the first door,
the cats checked every other door, found the same conditions
beyond all doors, then spent the day indoors, sulking.  It took
a treat of tuna to lighten their sullen spirits.  And BTW, don't
be surprised if the dynamic cat duo have their pictures posted
in the not-too-distant future.

Well, today is the day to begin the holiday decorations here at
Fractal Central.  And that's what I'm just about ready to do.
Until next time, take care, and fractals are the art of God.


Jim Muth
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  Gf4jS5XD6JCX57O63F6kTndPgYMaRJVKFPDCI69CYW6PP6GJ67\
  C6NabJWXFRSZ0zZGzZBzsm`Z0zZ0zLNIAEC9xi7maZ0z3SMPH0\
  b6SJ6HNDiJCcGBYCAS99N58H27BKlc9RNM0iJ1dG2_D3VA3Q74\
  L45G16BDIB9F96C82970X20S30O40J40F50A6j`P9Xr4JUHy80\
  360460460560560560660660bC0UA0M90E7GmQ_ktUelP_eKUZ\
  EOR9IK4CDazHIYBiRjbOdWLZPITJFNCCH59Bd9C0uBH787fa5X\
  U3OM1FK02v03o03h04bPJqOIp
  }

frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD  07-12-01  (Golden Chrysanthemum [6])
Date: 08 Dec 2001 10:36:11 EST

D. Freed wrote:

>The [FOTD] site screams for a sight of:

>"the dynamic duo"; "Cats of the fractal variety . . . . ."

Your wish may soon be granted, along with a picture of
. . . . . myself, no less!

Jim M.

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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Vicious Rumor...
Date: 08 Dec 2001 07:41:49 -0800

At 08:56 PM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote:
>There has been talk from the Developer section of possibly modifying
>FractInt to the point it might mean saved PAR files would not generate
>the same image as it did when the parameters were saved.  This would put
>the issue of backwards compatability at stake.
>
>Apparently not enough individuals have demonstrated a public interest to
>show the Developers that old PAR files are worth keeping.  Any "artists"
>out there concerned about their past works??

After reading all of the posts, it's still not clear to me exactly
what would be affected.  PARs are my only method of archiving
image data (it used to be the case only for development work
and layered images, but I have recently started stripping the
data from GIFs I display on the Web).  Thousands of images
and thousands of hours of work would be lost, and this is
certainly a grave concern.  It would be all but impossible to
go back though my PAR files and annotate which images
work with which version of Fractint.


Bud


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD  07-12-01  (Golden Chrysanthemum [6])
Date: 08 Dec 2001 10:04:49 -0600

The fractal racoons in my back yard in Dallas have asked me to express
their gratitude.

Freed/ racoons

[e-mail] wrote:

> D. Freed wrote:
>
> >The [FOTD] site screams for a sight of:
>
> >"the dynamic duo"; "Cats of the fractal variety . . . . ."
>
> Your wish may soon be granted, along with a picture of
> . . . . . myself, no less!
>
> Jim M.
>
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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Vicious Rumor...
Date: 08 Dec 2001 10:46:27 -0600

Mark asked:

> After reading all of the posts, it's still not clear to me exactly
> what would be affected.  PARs are my only method of archiving
> image data (it used to be the case only for development work
> and layered images, but I have recently started stripping the
> data from GIFs I display on the Web).  Thousands of images
> and thousands of hours of work would be lost, and this is
> certainly a grave concern.  It would be all but impossible to
> go back though my PAR files and annotate which images
> work with which version of Fractint.

1. The
reset=1961
line in the PAR tells fractint (and you) what version created the
PAR.

2. You can always save the current version of Fractint which renders
correctly the vast majority of PAR files. Having said that, let me
also say that we will never break backwards compatability in any
future DOS versions. Future platforms are another matter, no one can
say.

3. By now I should have made it clear that there is no special
problem all of a sudden with backward compatability. It looks to me
like Paul was having fun at everyone's expense with his "vicious
rumor" post, and you all bit :-)

Jonathan and I have been working together for a very long time, and
the conversation that triggered this is little different than similar
conversations we previously had in 2000, 1999, 1998, 1997, 1996, ...,
the beginning of time :-)

On a serious note, there was an article a few years back in the
Scientific American on technological obsolescence. The article listed
50 years as the period of time after which it is practically
impossible to read media. So much for getting your high school
yearbook on a CD! Software ages very much faster. That's the real
concern.

Tim



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Date: 08 Dec 2001 10:08:01 -0700

(EST)
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Hi all,

I got the following message, maybe you can help:

>>I got those parameter sets from Bob, but I've lost
>>touch with him over the last year, and I need to contact him again.
 I
tried
>>his genealogy1 address @ aol, but I never got a response.  Have you
>>corresponded with him recently, and if so, does he have a new
address?

>>Regards,
>>Erik Reckase

--Jochen Weber--

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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Vicious Rumor...
Date: 08 Dec 2001 10:23:16 -0800

At 10:46 AM 12/8/01 -0600, Tim wrote:
>...
>On a serious note, there was an article a few years back in the
>Scientific American on technological obsolescence. The article listed
>50 years as the period of time after which it is practically
>impossible to read media. So much for getting your high school
>yearbook on a CD!

Thank God it hasn't been 50 years since high school quite yet!  ;-)

Speaking of technical obsolescence, you can call me Stegosaurus.
I'm still running Win 3.1 and DOS 6.0 on an AMD 80486 DX2/80.
I'm also sending this via Eudora Light ver 1.5.2 (1995) and Trumpet
Winsock 2.0 Rev B (1994) and a 56K dial-up modem.  Hey, it all
still works, and my ISP can't provide software that will work with
my system.

At least I'm running the most current version of Fractint!  ;-)
I guess *that* demonstrates where my priorities lie...


Aloha,
        Bud


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From: "David Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Vicious Rumor...
Date: 08 Dec 2001 08:48:06 -1000

On  8 Dec 01 at 10:23, Mark Christenson wrote:

> Speaking of technical obsolescence, you can call me
> Stegosaurus. I'm still running Win 3.1 and DOS 6.0 on an
> AMD 80486 DX2/80. I'm also sending this via Eudora Light
> ver 1.5.2 (1995) and Trumpet Winsock 2.0 Rev B (1994)
> and a 56K dial-up modem.  Hey, it all still works, and
> my ISP can't provide software that will work with my
> system.

I've got a 25MHz AMD 80386 box sitting around here.
Maybe I should set it up to grind away at deep zooms, and
maybe check it once a month or so for progress? ;-)

David
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From: harry <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD  07-12-01  (Golden Chrysanthemum [6])
Date: 08 Dec 2001 13:57:04 -0500

How long will you take to render ?... or should we just
download the gif file....  ???    ;^P

H^) harry bissell

[e-mail] wrote:

> D. Freed wrote:
>
> >The [FOTD] site screams for a sight of:
>
> >"the dynamic duo"; "Cats of the fractal variety . . . . ."
>
> Your wish may soon be granted, along with a picture of
> . . . . . myself, no less!
>
> Jim M.
>
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Subject: Re: (fractint) Vicious Rumor...
Date: 08 Dec 2001 15:45:03 EST

Mark Christenson wrote:

>Speaking of technical obsolescence, you can call me Stegosaurus.
>I'm still running Win 3.1 and DOS 6.0 on an AMD 80486 DX2/80.
>I'm also sending this via Eudora Light ver 1.5.2 (1995) and Trumpet
>Winsock 2.0 Rev B (1994) and a 56K dial-up modem.  Hey, it all
>still works, and my ISP can't provide software that will work with
>my system.

If you're a stegosaurus, then I must be a Trilobite.  I write the FOTD
every day, using WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS (circa 1990).

Jim M.




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From: "Scott D. Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Vicious Rumor...
Date: 08 Dec 2001 18:01:46 -0600

On Saturday 08 December 2001 12:23, Mark Christenson wrote:

> Thank God it hasn't been 50 years since high school quite yet!  ;-)
>
And it hasn't been 50 years for Tim, either!

> Speaking of technical obsolescence, you can call me Stegosaurus.
> I'm still running Win 3.1 and DOS 6.0 on an AMD 80486 DX2/80.

I bet your setup runs really fast on that '486, right? You don't have all
that multi-threading overhead and resource-hogging bulk of Windows 9x to bog
you down.  8-)

Scott Boyd

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) non vicious non-rumors and humor <g!>
Date: 08 Dec 2001 21:51:21 -0600

What an excellent post for us late-comers. History, person's names, all
kinds of interesting material here that would have otherwise vaproized in
time.

Any chance there could be a "Historical" section added to the Archives,
to which this post be added????

IMHO, Fractint has long since had a life of its own, and is likely to
outlive us all; its anecdotal history should be preserved: as educational
for newcomers, informational for latecomers such as myself, as archival
material for our kids/the kids who are its latest devotees.

D. Freed + Dallas Fractal Racoon Society (membership = 4)



Tim Wegner wrote:

> I was trying to figure out whether to chatise Paul for his "vicious
> rumor" post or not.
>
> My first thought was to take umbrage that he read a post I had made
> on the developer's list  then posted a somewhat hysterical
> misrepresentation of it here.  This thought lasted about 3 seconds,
> maybe five seconds max. :-)
>
> However I decided to applaud Paul instead for livening up this sorta
> dead list with some juicy stuff. If I had a payroll I would have to
> put him on it to make posts like that <grin!> It sure did bring out
> some passionate replies in defense of new versions rendering people's
> PAR collections accurately.
>
> Paul is totally and absolutely forgiven <says Tim with saintly
> smile!>
>
> Maybe we should have a contest to find other weirdnesses of Fractint.
> Can anybody state in clear mathematical language EXACTLY what
> fractint is doing with the default mandelbrot and julia algorithms?
>
> This is amusing really, because Bert Tyler never claimed to be a
> theorist, mathematician, or to have a deep knowlefdge of fractals. He
> was an expert programmer in assembler. He liked "stylish blue" for
> the background, so he didn't start with color 0 (black) but with
> color 1 (blue in the default palette). As you can see, an initial
> iteration gets skipped because as a programmer Bert saw that
> 0*0 + c = c, so he decided to just start with z(0) = c rather than
> z(0) = 0, and save one cycle. Bert's motivation was speed pure and
> simple.
>
> This consternation about backward compatibility makes me chuckle. In
> a few feverish nights of work in 1987 Bert coded the Mandelbrot and
> Julia algorithm. Today, in 2001, 14 years later, the default image is
> exactly the same as it was then. But the there are quite a number of
> different routines in Fractint that all do the default mandelbrot.
>
> 1. Bert's original 386 32 bit integer math mandelbrot/Julia code. I
> think it has been modified a little over the years by some people who
> found ways to speed it up slightly.
>
> 2. 16 bit integer math. When you are calculating the default
> Mandelbrot and low zoom ratios, Fractint actually abandons Bert's
> code and uses 16 bit integer math!  Fractint seamlessly "shifts" to
> 32 bit integer math when the 16 bit precision limits is reached.
>
> 3. Floating point math coded in C. I probably wrote this originally.
> (Don't try coding the Mandelbrot algorithm in C at home, it's hard,
> remember, I really am a rocket scientist <g!>)
>
> 4. Floating point math coded in assembler with floating point
> coprocessor calls. Jonathan knows about this.
>
> 5. Finally, arbitrary precision code that allows you to zoom all the
> way to 10^1500 power. (There are actually several versions of this in
> Fractint, if memory severs, so maybe this is 5. and 6.)
>
> Should probably add the formular parser which itself has integer
> math, C language floating point math, and floating point assembler.
> That would make alternative codings 6., 7., and 8. I haven't checked
> in an awfully long time, but I believe it is easy to code up a
> mandelbrot and julia that look exactlyt like Fractint's mandel and
> julai images, complete with Bert's idiosyncracies.
>
> With various fractint command line options you can render the default
> Mandelbrot with ALL these various coding schemes, and they all work
> nearly identically with the default Mandelbrot/Julia, with virtually
> every pixel the same color. (I say "virtually" because undoubtedly
> there is a pixel or two that gets color differently).
>
> Here's an assignment for Fractint lovers. Can somebody make a PAR
> file that makes the default mandelbrot using ALL the different code
> options I have mentioned? You'll have to dig out debugflag.doc. How
> many entries in the PAR file are there? Variations of parser formulas
> don't count - you are allowed one parser formula but you can use
> different fractint options to force the use ofd different code.
>
> So the image Bert generated with his idiosyncratic Mandelbrot/Julia
> implementation that he ran on an early model 386 (I had to argue with
> him to get him to add 286 support, because my machine was a 286) is
> the same image you get with today's fractint, even though the
> computer is totally different, and most of the code is totally
> different than the code he wrote.
>
> Now to complete the story, in December 2001 Jonathan Osuch notices
> the peculiarities of Bert's 1987 code, we have a brief email exchange
> that discusses backward's compatibility, then
>
> EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT!
>
> VICIOUS RUMOR - FRACTINT TEAM THREATENS TO CHANGE BERT TYLER'S
> RENDERING OF THE MANDELBROT AND JULIA IN FRACTINT!!!
>
> Goodnight Folks!
>
> Tim
>
> As he heads to bed having spent a happy evening ROTFL :-)
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From: "David Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Vicious Rumor...
Date: 08 Dec 2001 18:44:31 -1000

On  8 Dec 01 at 15:45, [e-mail] wrote:

> If you're a stegosaurus, then I must be a Trilobite.  I
> write the FOTD every day, using WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS
> (circa 1990).

Fastest wordprocessor on the planet.

David who still has a copy of WordPerfect Executive
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Subject: (fractint) FOTD  09-12-01  (Spokes [5])
Date: 09 Dec 2001 09:26:40 EST


FOTD -- December 09, 2001 (Rating 5)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

I named today's fractal image "Spokes".  The name was inspired
by the four straight arms radiating from the traditional midget
at the center.  The arms are not workable spokes however, for
they are an illusion, no more than infinitely divided fractal
debris arranged into roughly straight lines.

The parent fractal was created by adding 3 parts of Z^4 to Z^2.
Because the formula was iterated with 1/C rather than C, the
fractal is inverted -- an island in an infinite ocean, rather
than a lake in an infinite continent.  But the island is lined
with the expected Mandelbrot buds along its shoreline, and two
very distorted Mandelbrot midgets lie in the marsh-lands near
the western shore.  Today's image lies in a valley of one of
these midgets.

Studying the image, I could find nothing outstanding in it.  Yet
it's not really a below-average image.  Undecided, I rated it an
average 5.  The image takes 46 minutes to render on my squeaky
old Pentium 200mhz machine with the fan that needs to be nudged
with a toothpick before it starts turning.  Waiting this long a
time is a rather heavy effort for such a mediocre result, but
frustration may be avoided by letting Paul and Scott do the work
and downloading the completed image from one of their FOTD web
sites.  Paul's site is at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and Scott's is at:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

The fractal weather Saturday featured a raw wind and steady cold
rain from morning until dusk, eventually totalling around 1/2
inch (13mm).  The fractal cats hate rain, they hate wind, and
they hate cold temperatures such as the 39F 4C, which was all we
could reach today.  Needless to say, the dynamic duo were most
unhappy, and sulked most all afternoon.  A treat of warm tuna
followed by a turkey treat was necessary to lift their spirits.

My spirits are reasonably high now that the hard part of the
seasonal decoration is finished.  They are high enough in fact,
that I might go searching for one of those elusive fractals.  If
I find one, it will appear as tomorrow's FOTD.  Until then, take
care, and be serene in an un-serene world.


Jim Muth
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START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

Spokes             { ; time=0:46:20.55--SF5 on a P200
  reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm
  formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1
  center-mag=-1.881330206915339/+0.4805578993509941/\
  843933.2/1/40/1.76137477478355287e-007 params=1/2/\
  3/4/0/0 float=y maxiter=12000 inside=0 logmap=500
  colors=000JHhJHiJHiJIjJIkKJkKJlKKmKKmKJnKJoLIoLIpL\
  JqLKqLLrLMqKNpKOoKOnKOmKOlKOkKOjKOiKOhKOgKOfKOeKOd\
  KOcFOeBOg7Oi3Ok4Oh4Nf5Md5Lb6J`6IZ7HX7GV8ET8DR9CP9B\
  N77M9ALBCKCEKEGJFIIHKIIMHKOGMQGNSFPUEQWESYDT_DVaCW\
  cBYeB_gA`i9bk9cm8eo7fq7hs6iu6ht7ht8hs8hs9gsAgrAgrB\
  gqBfqCfqDfpDfpEeoEeoFeoGenGdnHdnIdmIdmJclJclKclLck\
  LbkMbjMbjNbjOaiOaiPaiQahQ`hR`gR`gS`gT_fT_fU_eU_eVZ\
  eWZdWZdXZdXccRccLccFcc9cc4cc5cc5ac6Xc6Nc7Ha7H`6H`5\
  H_4H_3H_2HZ1HZ0HZ0K_1P`2U`2Za3ca4hb4rb5sc6wg6zh7ug\
  7pe8hf9cf9ZgAUgBPhBKhCKiDKiDKjEKjEPkBUl8Um6Um3Um1U\
  m0Um0Ul9Th8Sd7Ra6RY6QU5PR4ON3OK3QI5RG6SG7UH8VI9WJA\
  XKBYLDZMFZNH_OI`PK`QMaRObSPbTRcUTcVUdWWeXYeY_fZ`g_\
  bg`dhafibgicijdkjelgfhdge`hbai_cjWekTglQimNknJmoGo\
  pDqqAsrTusSwtRyuRzvQzwPzxOzyOzzNzzMzzLzzJzzLzzMzzO\
  zzPzzRzzSzzUzzVzzXzzYzz_zz_zz`zz`zz`zz`zz`zzazzbzz\
  bzzczzdzzdzzezzfzzfzzgzzh
  }

frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================

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From: "Andrew Coppin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Jim's FotD
Date: 10 Dec 2001 14:41:15 +0000

To all those who display Jim's Fractals...

In the beginning, Jim's FotD didn't HAVE a rating... Then someone asked that
each day's fractal be given a rating, so folk could decide whether to bother
viewing it. Jim kindly obliged, but no website that I know of actually
displays the fractal's rating until you are actually viewing the fractal!
What is really needed is for this information to be on the main index
pages... (Although I appriciate that this is NOT as simple to do as it might
sound ;-)

Thanks guys.
Andrew.

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"Hey, this 'nothing' stuff sounds great - we should be using it!"


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Subject: Re: (fractint) Jim's FotD
Date: 10 Dec 2001 09:08:22 -0600

On Monday 10 December 2001 08:41, Andrew Coppin wrote:
> To all those who display Jim's Fractals...
>
> In the beginning, Jim's FotD didn't HAVE a rating... Then someone asked
> that each day's fractal be given a rating, so folk could decide whether to
> bother viewing it. Jim kindly obliged, but no website that I know of
> actually displays the fractal's rating until you are actually viewing the
> fractal! What is really needed is for this information to be on the main
> index pages... (Although I appriciate that this is NOT as simple to do as
> it might sound ;-)
>
That sounds like a good idea Andrew! Wouldn't be all that difficult. I'll
look into modifying my script to do that. I think it would be better if I
added in the rating on the index page starting in the new year. For Paul it
would probably be even easier, because he does his daily page manually.

Later,
Scott

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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD  10-12-01  (Fractopod Undulatus [5])
Date: 10 Dec 2001 10:01:33 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- December 10, 2001 (Rating 5)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Having watched a lot of prehistoric animals with their
incomprehensible scientific names on TV last evening, I decided
to give today's image an incomprehensible name.  I named it
"Fractopod Undulatus", which I suppose translates roughly as
"Fractal-footed undulating creature".

Actually, it's a scene in a remote part of the infinite spiral
of the Z^1.71+C Mandeloid.  This simple formula draws a
distorted but unexpectedly recognizable fractal, which resembles
the classic Mandelbrot set rotated 135 degrees CW.  Today's
scene lies in a secondary valley of a tiny bud in the East
Valley area of the parent, which in this case would more
properly be called the Southwest Valley area.

The thing about the image that strikes me first is the subtlety
of the discontinuities.  Usually, the midgets in fractals of
fractional powers are torn apart by the unavoidable
discontinuities, but in today's image, these breaks are located
in places where they are barely noticeable.

The image is filled with tiny yellow dots, which sparkle like
stars throughout.  Each of these tiny dots enlarges to a complex
of elements similar to the one that surrounds today's midget.
Undoubtedly, more midgets lie in these smaller complexes, though
these midgets are almost certainly beyond resolution.

Because the image looks so much like so many that we have seen
so many times before, I could rate it no higher than an average
rating of 5.  But it's still worth at least a glance, even if
not quite worth the 1/2 hour required to render it from the
parameter file.

The hassle of running the parameter file can be avoided by
letting Paul and Scott handle the hassle, and downloading the
completed GIF image from their web sites at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and at:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

The sun returned to Fractal Central Sunday, but the winds
remained brisk and the temperature barely touched 50F 10C.
Fractal cats, unlike their feral cousins, find such conditions
too unpleasant to endure for longer than a few minutes.  The
dynamic duo grew sulky as the afternoon progressed, but forgot
their troubles when the tuna appeared around sunset.

And I'll forget *my* troubles when the day's work is finished.
Unfortunately, the only way I know to finish work is to start it
and keep going until nothing remains undone.  So while I'm
working, I'll say take care, and do flying birds ever get struck
by lightning?


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Jim's FotD
Date: 10 Dec 2001 09:27:18 -0600

Andrew Coppin wrote:
>
> To all those who display Jim's Fractals...
>

Actually, it is pretty simple to do for either Scott or I.  But since
most of those that people viewing the images are on the FractInt List,
they receive the email long before the web pages are even built, so they
should know the rating ahead of time.  Like you do and anyone else
reading this reply or your initial comment.     :-)

And then there is the other issue, how many times others have disagreed
with what Jim feels the "rating" to be and what they think it should
be.  If the rating showed, would that influence your decision on whether
you wanted to view the image from the website/s??  Or would you view
them anyway??

I suspect that the regular viewers will look at each daily image no
matter what the rating shows.  And if someone is not going to view one
strictly based upon what Jim thinks it rates (at the moment he picks a
number), then they can stop the download before all of the image gets
there, since that is the first part of Jim's posting (images are always
slower).

I have another question, Andrew, is there somebody that you know who
basis there decision on what to view using the rating system??

Sincerely,
P.N.L.
http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go

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From: "Andrew Coppin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Jim's FotD
Date: 10 Dec 2001 15:37:23 +0000

>From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: (fractint) Jim's FotD
>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:27:18 -0600
>
>I have another question, Andrew, is there somebody that you know who
>basis there decision on what to view using the rating system??

OK, will go crawl back under the stone from wence I came...

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Subject: (fractint) djgpp
Date: 10 Dec 2001 13:32:31 -0600

I've only recently learned to program, and as I get better I would be
very interested in porting Fractint to djgpp.  But I'm not good yet, so I
have a question:

I have djgpp, and I'm trying to install the GRX graphics library.  I read
the instructions but I'm obviously not doing it right, because I have no
graphics library yet.  If anyone has any suggestions they would be much
appreciated.

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who likes DOS.  Why can't
microsoft just leave it alone?  Why do I find myself loathing new
software?  Why must a step forward so often be accompanied by a step
backward?  It must be a new law of physics, conservation of progress.

Jon K


> In the future, the base code will have to be changed to Xfractint as
> more
> people get XP'd.  Which, in all probability, Fractint in its current
> form
> will not run under.  The Xfractint code needs to be ported to the
> djgpp
> compiler.  In combination with incorporation of a graphics
> manipulation
> package such as Allegro, this will allow a pseudo windows version to
> run on
> the dreaded XP.  This is a big project.  If there is interest, I'll
> discuss
> this in more detail.
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From: "Ricardo M. Forno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) djgpp
Date: 10 Dec 2001 21:27:09 -0300

Well, I also love DOS for its command-line facility instead of
point-and-click. Windows, with its icons, is in a way a step back to
ideography (Egyptian letters, Japanese and Chinese ideograms). It is good
for analphabets. However, I recognize that Internet without Windows is more
complicated. I use either Windows or DOS according to the task to be done.
Regards.
----- Original Message -----
Cc: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:32 PM


> I've only recently learned to program, and as I get better I would be
> very interested in porting Fractint to djgpp.  But I'm not good yet, so I
> have a question:
>
> I have djgpp, and I'm trying to install the GRX graphics library.  I read
> the instructions but I'm obviously not doing it right, because I have no
> graphics library yet.  If anyone has any suggestions they would be much
> appreciated.
>
> I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who likes DOS.  Why can't
> microsoft just leave it alone?  Why do I find myself loathing new
> software?  Why must a step forward so often be accompanied by a step
> backward?  It must be a new law of physics, conservation of progress.
>
> Jon K
>
>
> > In the future, the base code will have to be changed to Xfractint as
> > more
> > people get XP'd.  Which, in all probability, Fractint in its current
> > form
> > will not run under.  The Xfractint code needs to be ported to the
> > djgpp
> > compiler.  In combination with incorporation of a graphics
> > manipulation
> > package such as Allegro, this will allow a pseudo windows version to
> > run on
> > the dreaded XP.  This is a big project.  If there is interest, I'll
> > discuss
> > this in more detail.
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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD  11-12-01  (Cosmic Lyres [5])
Date: 11 Dec 2001 10:47:25 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- December 11, 2001 (Rating 3)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

In a world where every detergent cleans cleaner than every other
detergent, when was the last time you heard the makers of a new
product claim that their product was below average when they put
it on the market?  Doing so is almost unimaginable.  Why then do
I claim that today's FOTD is below average?

The reason is that I believe in honesty in advertising.  :-)

Seriously, I've been thinking about the value of rating the
FOTD's, as apparently others have also.  I had almost no time to
find a fractal, I had bad luck searching, and when I finally
found a fractal, it turned out to be almost impossible to color
pleasingly.  As a result, today's image rates only a lowly 3.

But why advertise the image's failures?  I am not a self-critic.
Anyone who runs the parameter file will soon notice the muddy
colors and the scattered, unorganized features surrounding the
midget.  Maybe I'll stop rating the FOTD and let the viewers
themselves rate the images.

I named the picture "Cosmic Lyres", though maybe "Herring-bones"
would be more appropriate.  The render time of 15 minutes can be
avoided by downloading the completed image from:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

or from:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

The fractal weather Monday was cloudy and cold, with a
temperature of 44F 6.5C.  The cats spent the day curled by their
radiators, getting up occasionally to shout at me for food.

I must now tend to the other work that needs to be done.  But
I'll return in 24 hours with another FOTD image.  Hopefully, the
next one will be a vast improvement.  Until then, take care.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: FOTD  11-12-01  (Cosmic Lyres [5])
Date: 11 Dec 2001 11:14:34 -0600

Jim Muth wrote:
>
> ...I've been thinking about the value of
> rating the FOTD's, as apparently others
> have also.  ......  As a result, today's
> image rates only a lowly 3.

Ah, but that is only your personal opinion at the moment.  Your mood and
state of mind have a lot to do with your rating of images.  At some
other time, it might just have well been rated a 2, 4 or 5 (or even
3-1/2).

>
> Anyone who runs the parameter file will
> soon notice the muddy colors....

That is only due to the brown and ochre colors that you have chosen to
use.  I tried adding some of the brighter palettes to see what effect it
would have, and some were really quite interesting and nice.    :-)

>
> Maybe I'll stop rating the FOTD and let
> the viewers themselves rate the images.

At least they would view each image that way, as opposed to some people
not doing so if the number value was not up to whatever standard they
set for themselves.

I notice your own personal rating, but do not consider it when viewing
the image, nor when setting up the web page.  To me, it is just
something you have used to go along with the "title".  And I feel that
titles are over rated in themselves.    ;-}


Sincerely,
P.N.L.
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Subject: (fractint) Re: Comments Re: FOTD  11-12-01  (Cosmic Lyres [5])
Date: 11 Dec 2001 18:35:27 -0600

<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
Fellow Fractaliers of the bi-pedal and quadrupedal variety-
<p>I think Jim's Titles AND (always conservative) Ratings are of value
not only separately, but together:
<p>1) the former giving we mere mortals and the Dynamic Duo a glimpse into
what DIP switch the image flipped in Jim's associative cortex to attach
words to the image (lots of psychobabble/neurophysiologic BS could be cited
here re the neural networks which have been demonstrated to exist in the
portion of the human visual cortex which is trained in childhood and adolescence
to do the attachment of words to images),  and
<p>2) the latter giving we mm's and the DD a different insight into the
more conscious process involved w/ assigning a number to an image. Perhaps
rather than "the Titles being over-rated in themselves", as PNL suggests,
the Ratings are over-titled.
<p>PNL has already noted the influence of the Fractal Weather on both Jim,
the Dynamic Duo and his/their ratings. We already have little enough insight
into what <b>really</b> goes on deep in the Command Bunker at Fractal Central,
the true role played by the DDuo and the alleged Susan, etc, why would
we want LESS information from the creator of the images??
<p>I certainly don't know, nor can I imagine, anyone who - having already
managed the Herculean task of lifting his/her fingers twice to get one
of the sites like PNL's having pre-rendered images -  would then NOT
click the mouse twice more to view the image merely because Jim rated it
a "3", or gave it a name the potential viewer finds peculiar without even
seeing the image which fostered it. I find the names as interesting as
the images, and certainly more revelatory.
<p>Since Jim's 3's are better than most of my "8" 's, it's a no-brainer
- or perhaps I'm the no-brainer. Nevertheless, I and the "Querulous Quatro"
(my backyard 4-pack of stout fractal racoons) vote for continuation of
both Names and Ratings. If viewers want to add theirs, so much the better.
<p>But please . . . . . . . . since the FOTD ain't broke, let's not fix
it.
<p>Freed/QQ
<br>
<br>
<br>
<p>"Paul N. Lee" wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Jim Muth wrote:
<br>>
<br>> ...I've been thinking about the value of
<br>> rating the FOTD's, as apparently others
<br>> have also.  ......  As a result, today's
<br>> image rates only a lowly 3.
<p>Ah, but that is only your personal opinion at the moment.  Your
mood and
<br>state of mind have a lot to do with your rating of images.  At
some
<br>other time, it might just have well been rated a 2, 4 or 5 (or even
<br>3-1/2).
<p>>
<br>> Anyone who runs the parameter file will
<br>> soon notice the muddy colors....
<p>That is only due to the brown and ochre colors that you have chosen
to
<br>use.  I tried adding some of the brighter palettes to see what
effect it
<br>would have, and some were really quite interesting and nice.
:-)
<p>>
<br>> Maybe I'll stop rating the FOTD and let
<br>> the viewers themselves rate the images.
<p>At least they would view each image that way, as opposed to some people
<br>not doing so if the number value was not up to whatever standard they
<br>set for themselves.
<p>I notice your own personal rating, but do not consider it when viewing
<br>the image, nor when setting up the web page.  To me, it is just
<br>something you have used to go along with the "title".  And I feel
that
<br>titles are over rated in themselves.    ;-}
<p>Sincerely,
<br>P.N.L.
<br>--------------------------------------------------------------
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Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD 04-12-01 (A Make-good Fractal [8])
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Subject: (fractint) Patch 2 to Fractint 20.2
Date: 11 Dec 2001 21:07:14 -0600 (CST)

Folks,

Patch 2 to Fractint version 20.2 is now available at www.fractint.org.  This
is an Xfractint patch, with Fractint changed just to keep the two sources in
sync.

What's new:

This patch adds the assembly language version of the mandelbrot code to
Xfractint.  To use it, it is necessary to place the command line switch
fpu=387 in your sstools.ini file.  The NASM assembler was used, but if you
don't have it available, not to worry, the object file is included.

Modified the Xfractint C mandelbrot code to match the assembly version.

Jonathan


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From: "Katherine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Color Management
Date: 11 Dec 2001 22:24:21 -0500

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Hi, folks.  I, too, am a newcomer to the wide, wide world of =
fractals...and I need some input, please.

I have generated all of these wonderful images.  The Problem is that I =
want to be able to use hard copies of these images...suitable for =
framing (modesty permitting).  Now, of course, I can print the =
things...BUT I want my printer to spit out glorious copies of my =
glorious images (modesty issue, again)...not copies suitable only for =
the bottom of a bird cage.

In a nutshell....color management software????

I've been enjoying the newsletter!  This poor math-challenged visual =
artist has learned!

Thanks, y'all.

Katherine


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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Comments Re: FOTD  11-12-01  (Cosmic Lyres [5])
Date: 11 Dec 2001 21:46:22 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> 2) the latter giving we mm's and the DD a
> different insight into the more conscious
> process involved w/ assigning a number to
> an image.  Perhaps rather than "the Titles
> being over-rated in themselves", as PNL
> suggests, the Ratings are over-titled.

I wish to clarify my last sentence, where part of which is quoted
above.  This was really not meant as a personal attack or negative
comment on Jim's titles.  More of a comment in general on Anyone's title
for something they have created.  Which is why the majority of my images
use file names such as UNTITLED-##, IMAGE##, or FRACT###.

Having titles to images just lets the viewer see what the Artist saw
when they named it, whether the artist was trying for that "scene" or
named after the fact.  And these titles rarely have an influence on what
I see when viewing somebody's creation.  (Though a few titles do cause
me to try and see why they were named such.)  I personally find it more
interesting to see what the viewer sees in an image, than directing
their viewpoint.

>
> ....to view the image merely because Jim
> rated it a "3", or gave it a name the
> potential viewer finds peculiar without
> even seeing the image which fostered it.

Actually, because I currently have about three years worth of Jim's FOTD
postings on my web site, one particular title has caused an extreme
amount of "hits" since it was made available:

       http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD_00-08-30.html

Sincerely,
P.N.L.
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Subject: (fractint) FOTD  12-12-01  (Diamonds in the Rough [7])
Date: 12 Dec 2001 11:00:15 EST


FOTD -- December 12, 2001 (Rating 7)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Naming the FOTD images is like taking one of those Rorschach
ink blot tests that were once so faddish.  To find a name, I
study the FOTD images, put my mind in idle (no problem), and
write the first thing I think of.  The only difference between
the FOTD images and ink blots is that the FOTD images are
family-oriented, and contain none of the dirty pictures that the
ink blots are filled with.

The ink blots are supposed to reveal not only a person's
personality, but his intelligence and mood as well.  How well
the tests work is open to dispute, since a knowledgeable taker
can play games with the test-giver, and intentionally 'see' the
things in the ink blots that will make him appear almost any way
he wishes the giver to see him.

But still, the tests are fun, and when I name the FOTD, I do it
in the spirit of taking one of those tests, revealing my humble
nature, saintly personality, extreme intelligence, cosmic
wisdom, and totally optimistic mood for all the world to see. ;-)

As for rating the images, this is also mostly for fun, and
being totally subjective, actually has little real meaning.  I
will continue rating the FOTD images according to my mood at the
moment.  But at any time, I may decide to discontinue the
ratings, which no two people agree on anyway.  In fact, I myself
cannot agree with my own past ratings.

Going beyond the details of naming and rating, today's image is
a pleasant little affair, well worth a look.  I named it
"Diamonds in the Rough" when I noticed the four sharp-angled
geometric features around the central midget, which bear a vague
resemblance to crystals.  The rating of 7 reflects my current
mood more than anything else.

The render time of 37 minutes is slightly more than the image is
worth, but this shortcoming can be eliminated by downloading the
completed image from:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

or from:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

The fractal weather today featured a cloudy damp morning, which
gave way to a sunny mild afternoon with a temperature up to 55F
13C.  This was good enough for the fractal duo, who enjoyed the
afternoon on the porch, watching for intruding cats and wishing
a bit more sun would filter through the holly trees.

It's now time to settle down and get some work done.  Until
tomorrow and the next FOTD, take care, and enjoy another day.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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From: "Andrew Coppin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Comments Re: FOTD 11-12-01 (Cosmic Lyres [5])
Date: 12 Dec 2001 16:31:38 +0000

>Actually, because I currently have about three years worth of Jim's FOTD
>postings on my web site, one particular title has caused an extreme
>amount of "hits" since it was made available:
>
>        http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD_00-08-30.html
>
>Sincerely,
>P.N.L.

Mmm... yes... I will never know how that particular image got that
particular name... The title seems to bear no relation to the image...

Oh well, it's not my problem - I just figure Jim needs to get out more often
;-)

(Only kidding Jim - keep up the good work!)

Thanks.
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Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Management
Date: 12 Dec 2001 19:13:06 -0500



Katherine wrote:

>>>I have generated all of these wonderful images.  The Problem is that I want
to be able to use hard copies of these images...suitable for framing (modesty
permitting).  Now, of course, I can print the things...BUT I want my printer to
spit out glorious copies of my glorious images (modesty issue, again)...not
copies suitable only for the bottom of a bird cage.<<<

I am not sure what you are asking for. Have you tried printing them and they
came out poorly? First of all, don't try to print through fractint. Save them as
GIFs and use a mainstream photo editting program to print, e.g., Paint Shop Pro.
What kind of printer do you have? Please give more details and we'll see to it
that you have glorious hard copy (or at least ones that your bird will
appreciate).

Nick



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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Management
Date: 12 Dec 2001 18:26:00 -0600

Katherine wrote:
>
> In a nutshell....color management software????
>

Besides what Nick has mentioned and asked about, I would suggest
generating the image at twice the resolution of what you plan to print
at.  Another words, if you want to print something that is 12-in. by
9-in. at 300-DPI, then render a 7200x5400 pixel image.  Then resize (or
resample) it down to 3600x2700 before using your graphics editor program
to print from.

For larger prints, you most likely will need to render to disk.

Sincerely,
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From: "Multiple Bogeys" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Attachments
Date: 12 Dec 2001 20:28:44 -0500

<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>What's with someone posting a .scr attachment in here? It gave Hotmail/MSN Explorer fits trying to view the message or delete it. Besides, executable attachments are a bad idea -- I deleted it without running or even downloading it.</DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: <a href='http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag1_etl_EN.asp'>Click Here</a><br></html>

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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Attachments
Date: 12 Dec 2001 19:53:39 -0600

Multiple Bogeys wrote:
>
> What's with someone posting a .scr
> attachment in here?

It is actually a virus, and are you sure it came through the
FractInt-List??

I received a similar personal email yesterday from an individual that
was replying to a FractInt posting, but have not seen anything come
through the Majordomo email server.

Sincerely,
P.N.L.
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) FOTD  13-12-01  (One in a Googol [7])
Date: 13 Dec 2001 10:49:21 EST


FOTD -- December 13, 2001 (Rating 7)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

The chance of any particular midget ever being found and
becoming the FOTD is at best one in a googol.  It is more like
one in a googolplex.  Yet despite the overwhelming odds against
it, today's midget has reached the loftiest height to which a
Mandelbrot midget can aspire.  It has become the FOTD for
December 13.  I have named the image "One in a Googol" in
recognition of the near-impossibility of this particular midget
ever having been declared 'Fractal of the Day'.

I must point out however that nothing unusual or supernatural is
involved in the occurrence of an event with such a slim chance
of happening.  This is because of the immense number of similar
and equally unlikely events that might have happened.

I must also comment on the 'politically-incorrect' FOTD of
August 30, 2000, which once again has been mentioned.  Private
responses to this disgustingly obscene image, which I received
from several offended individuals, convinced me to keep the FOTD
family oriented, and not mention certain objects that everyone
already knows exist.

(I was told that I was corrupting the minds of the world's
youth.  I replied that I doubted I had such power, and added
that if the world's youth could be so easily corrupted, saving
it from corruption was already a lost cause.)

I am unable to understand ;-) however, why an image which raised
such protests has had such a high hit rate.  Maybe there's an
already corrupted group that is not offended by this kind of
stuff.  And as Andrew pointed out, there is little in the image
to justify the name, which means that the offensive material can
exist only in the mind of the beholder.  I guess it's kind of a
quantum thing, with the observer creating the observed object.

Of course, the name and discussion, which were written by me and
which led the way to the obscenity, had a lot to do with the
whole sordid affair . . . . I guess . . . .  :-/

If I didn't already have a life, I'd go out and get one.  >:-D

Returning finally to today's image, we find that it rates an
above-average 7, which makes it worth the 20 minutes needed to
run the parameter file.  Those who would rather avoid the small
hassle of running the parameter file may download the completed
GIF image from Paul's web site at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

or from Scott's site at:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

The fractal weather today started sunny but turned cloudy before
noon, spoiling the cats' planned afternoon in the outdoor sun.
Without sun the temperature of 50F 10C was just a bit too chilly
for maximum comfort.  I fear the fractal cats have become
terribly, terribly spoiled by their easy life at Fractal Central.

It's now time for me to get busy on other things, so until next
time, take maximum care, and be an optimistic pessimist.  It's
better than being a pessimistic optimist.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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From: "Andrew Coppin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) MandelbrotBC is not the end...
Date: 14 Dec 2001 13:18:35 +0000

Hi folks.

It has (just) occurred to me that the MandelbrotBC formula we all know &
love (?!) does NOT in fact draw the whole hyperdimensional Mandelbrot sets
for noninteger powers of Z.

OK, stop. Reverse it. Forward.

the function Z^N is multivalued (and hence not truely a function!) if N is
anything other than a (real) positive integer. The MandelbrotBC formula
addresses this by allowing one to select which part of the so-called
infinite corkscrew to be drawn.

Except that, while Z^N is an infinite corkscrew, as soon as you iterate it,
it becomes something else!

Consider, for example, the Inverse Julia map: z := sqrt(z-c). This is
multivalued; in fact, for every nonzero Z, there are TWO valid answers to
this. BUT, if you apply this mapping TWICE, i.e. sqrt(sqrt(z-c)-c), there
are now FOUR valid values. Apply the map again, and this becomes EIGHT valid
answers, etc... In short, apply the mapping n times, and there are now 2^n
equally valid answers availible.

This all happens because sqrt(z) has two solutions. However, Z^N has
INFINITY solutions!! So, apply it twice, and there are now INFINITY SQUARED
solutions!!! (Gasp!)

The orbit of a point in a normal mapping (that truely IS a function, i.e.
single-valued) is a linear sequence. However, for sqrt(z-c), it is a binary
tree - at each point there are two alternative paths, each leading
(potentially) to a different outcome.

Now, the orbit of Z^N is a tree - a tree with INFINITY branches at each
node. MandelbrotBC allows you to pick which branch it taken - but that same
branch is taken at EVERY node. Thus, there is infinity upon infinity
(infinity times over) branches that cannot ever be reached with the
MandelbrotBC formula. And it looks like they ARE all different!

Anyone care to comment?

Thanks.
Andrew.

"Yes, not NOTHING can do *EVERYTHING*!"
"Wow! This 'nothing' stuff sounds great - WE SHOULD BE USING IT!!!"


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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD  14-12-01  (Modes of Vibration [6])
Date: 14 Dec 2001 09:53:04 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- December 14, 2001 (Rating 6)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Today's fractal reminds me of a pattern formed by grains of sand
dancing on a vibrating glass plate.  I named the image, which
was created with the ubiquitous MandelbrotMix4 formula, "Modes
of Vibration".  The parameters of the image were entered on a
whim.  This should be no surprise, since most of the better FOTD
images are whimsical things found by lucky accident.

The unusual appearance of the scene is a result of the <fmod>
option that I used to render the outside of the image.  This
under-used <fmod> option, along with the <tdis> and <iter>
options, are the three outside options that I find most useful.

Don't panic when you see the color section of the parameter
file.  The image uses only 34 of the 256 available colors, and
the unused registers are all black.

Trying to rate the scene, I found myself undecided whether to
give it a rating of a 5 or a 6.  I finally settled on a 6,
deciding to be a bit easy on myself.

The render time of the parameter file is 4-1/2 minutes on my
cranky but faithful machine with the newly-replaced drive, which
I have dedicated to fractals.  Running the parameter file is an
adequate way of viewing the image, but the optimal, though not
quite as much fun, way of viewing it, is to let Paul and Scott
do the hard work and download it from their web sites at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and at:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

With a temperature of 57F 19C, the fractal weather Thursday
remained cloudy and tepid.  The fractal cats don't want tepid
however.  They want warmth.  And when the cats don't get what
they want, they become testy.  Luckily, I escaped their wrath by
picking their favorite flavor of cat-food for their afternoon
meal.  This was truly good luck, because knowing their favorite
flavor is not as simple as it seems.  What they're in the mood
for is never the same more than two days in a row.

I now find myself with work to do, so until next time, take
care, and save the best for last.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) MandelbrotBC is not the end...
Date: 14 Dec 2001 10:31:54 EST

Andrew Coppin wrote:

                           <snipped>
>Now, the orbit of Z^N is a tree - a tree with INFINITY branches at each
>node. MandelbrotBC allows you to pick which branch it taken - but that
>same branch is taken at EVERY node. Thus, there is infinity upon infinity
>(infinity times over) branches that cannot ever be reached with the
>MandelbrotBC formula. And it looks like they ARE all different!

I'll not quibble with infinity.  Infinity is infinite.  It would take
eternity to
explore even the lowest infinity, and even then, one would be just
starting.  Also, even though the branches may be infinitely infinite,
there is a certain sameness to even the branches that the
MandelbrotBC1 formula *does* reach, that leads me to feel that more
of the same sameness is to be found in the un-reachable branches.
The non-integer fractals might be infinitely infinite, but are they
infinitely varied?

Jim M.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) FOTD  15-12-01  (Galactic Black Hole [6])
Date: 15 Dec 2001 10:23:00 EST


FOTD -- December 15, 2001 (Rating 6)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Today's image so closely resembles a galaxy that I named it
"Galactic Black Hole".  Current astronomical thinking is that
massive black holes exist at the centers of most large galaxies.
It is uncertain whether these black holes are involved in the
formation of the galaxy or appear later as a result of the
collapse of a large number of closely-packed stars in the
galaxy's center.

An even greater question is where the matter and information
goes when it is swallowed up by a black hole and no longer
exists in this universe.  At first glance, it would appear that
conservation laws are being violated, though several ways around
this dilemma have been worked out.  My own opinion is that such
questions are of little relevance to a fractal image.  All that
need be said is that today's subtly colored image resembles an
older photograph of a spiral galaxy, one taken before they
started revving up the colors.

The MandelbrotBC1 formula lies behind the fractal galaxy, which
is only appropriate, since the formula draws near infinite
slices and space is near infinite.  In fact, the latest thinking
is that space has strong negative curvature, and therefore, like
the branch cuts in fractional-exponent fractals, is more
infinite than infinite.

The rating of 6 is far less than infinite however.  The render
time of 11-1/2 minutes is a bit slow, but still acceptable.  The
download of the GIF image file is the most efficient and
convenient way to see the image, though when the image is
obtained this way, the fun of watching the fractal stars appear
one after the other is missed.  The download is available at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and at:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

The fractal weather Friday here at Fractal Central was damp and
foggy but mild.  The temperature of 61F 16C was warm enough, but
the wetness kept the cats housebound.  They displayed their
irritation by getting into a hassle over the best resting spot.
Tippy won the fight.

I'm now about ready to start trying to relax for the rest of the
day.  I know I won't succeed, but it will be fun to see how far
I can get.  Until next time, which will arrive in 24 hours, take
care, and watch for wandering fractals.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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  e=p1, a=imag(p2)+100
  p=real(p2)+PI
  q=2*PI*fn1(p/(2*PI))
  r=real(p2)-q
  Z=C=Pixel:
    Z=log(Z)
    IF(imag(Z)>r)
      Z=Z+flip(2*PI)
    ENDIF
    Z=exp(e*(Z+flip(q)))+C
  |Z|<a
}

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From: Ken MacLean <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Query
Date: 15 Dec 2001 13:31:05 -0500

OK all of you math whizzes out there:
I wrote a mandelbrot generator and was working on a derivation for
raising a complex base to a complex exponent. I need for someone to tell
me if there is a problem with it. It seems to work when I check it on my
calculator, but I may have made some incorrect assumptions:

say I want to raise a complex#  z to a complex power (a+bi):

Let z = (x + iy). Then I wrote  z = (x + iy) = e^ln(x + iy).
z^(a + bi) = [e^ln(x + iy)]^(a + bi)
ln(z^(a + bi)) = (a + bi) * [ln(e^ln(x + iy))] = (a + bi) * ln(x + iy)
z^(a + bi) = e^[(a + bi) * ln(x + iy)]

Is this right?

Kenneth MacLean


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From: "Andrew Coppin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Query
Date: 15 Dec 2001 21:31:51 +0000

>From: Ken MacLean <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (fractint) Query
>Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 13:31:05 -0500
>
>OK all of you math whizzes out there:
>I wrote a mandelbrot generator and was working on a derivation for
>raising a complex base to a complex exponent. I need for someone to tell
>me if there is a problem with it. It seems to work when I check it on my
>calculator, but I may have made some incorrect assumptions:
>
>say I want to raise a complex#  z to a complex power (a+bi):
>
>Let z = (x + iy). Then I wrote  z = (x + iy) = e^ln(x + iy).
>z^(a + bi) = [e^ln(x + iy)]^(a + bi)
>ln(z^(a + bi)) = (a + bi) * [ln(e^ln(x + iy))] = (a + bi) * ln(x + iy)
>z^(a + bi) = e^[(a + bi) * ln(x + iy)]
>
>Is this right?
>
>Kenneth MacLean

So... you're saying that (x+yi)^(a+bi) = e^[(a+b) * ln(x+yi)]? Well, since
that's mearly an extension of the rule for real numbers that x^a = e^[a * ln
x] then yes, you're right.

Now, if you're gonna get a computer to do this, you need to work out how to
compute ln and exp with complex-valued variabled.

In case you don't already know, the formulas are
  exp (x+yi) = (exp x) * (cos y + i sin y)  [y in RADIANS!]
  ln z = Mag(Z) + Arg(z)*i [argument in RADIANS!]
These are also shown in the FractInt online help (under "Trig Identities"
IIRC)

HTH. If not, email me back!
Thanks.
Andrew.


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From: "Tony Parker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal Printing Offer Extended Indefinitely to Members of Fractint & Ultrafractal Mailing List.
Date: 15 Dec 2001 18:08:12 -0500

Tony Parker
4, Old Forge Road, Suite 3
Woodstock, NY 12498
Tel. [phone]
Fax.[phone]
E-mail via ISP: [e-mail]

A number of Franctint and Ultrafractal Mailing List members have asked me to
extend my fractal printing offer. I've now printed enough of these files
successfully to the satisfaction of the Artists, that I can continue this
offer indefinitely in the total confidence that I can consistantly "deliver"
quality work in a timely manner.

My special "All in Price" is $50.00 USD. The price includes the print, the
mailer, postage via Confirmed/Insured USPS Priority, and  tax (wherever
necessary). I have done substantial comparison shopping on the InterNet
amongst a large sampling of the Service bureaus and their prices were
staggering! The spread was between $89.00 USD and over $100.00!

I also checked the prices at my local Artist's Supply Store & Service
Bureau. They charged a base price of $60.00, but then UV ink was $$$ extra,
Photgraphic Paper was $$$ extra, UV Spray Coating $$$ Extra! etc.....etc...

Please make sure that you include your full contact information in your
e-mail reply to me. Please include your full Postal Street Address (not P.O.
Box number please), and Telephone Number.

Should you decide to have me print up your fractal images, please follow my
image uploading directions exactly.

As previously mentioned I shall be using my HP DesignJet 3500CP Large Format
Printer, HP UV Inks, and Rexam Magic MUG-7 7 Mil/170 Gram High Gloss Resin
Coated Photobase Paper. I will then spray  the print with Krylon Clear
Acrylic Spray Paint to seal and protect the print. I have ordered some
sample "Archival" quality UV oversprays, and I'll be using that on the
prints as soon as it arrives.

I am definitely considering special projects like printing even larger size
posters, and printing on other media like Canvas, Silk, and Clear Film for
later. I have ordered some sample rolls of canvas and silk to try out, so if
anybody is interested in trying their art out on some exotic media, please
let me know.

Here is "The Offer":

1.) I will print a "poster size"  print approximately 36" x 30" (net image
size may vary slightly from image to image to allow a 1" to 2" border around
the net print area.) from your digital image which must be uploaded as an
attached file via e-mail to my secured site at:

[e-mail]

IMPORTANT NOTICE
(You must insert the word "fractal" in the subject line otherwise my
server's Spambots will delete your file.)

This is not my "home" email address. Please do not try to communicate with
me via this address. Please send all "regular" e-mail to:
[e-mail]

Also, please do not upload files directly to my [e-mail]
address.

Someboady sent a virus infected file directly to my "home" e-mail address,
and it destroyed my PC. It has taken me weeks to rebuild my main PC.
Luckily, the PC I use to print the Fractal Images was not affected.

2.) Inspection. I will inspect your image file and contact you via e-mail as
to it's suitability for enlargement via e-mail within 24 hours of receipt of
the file.

3.) Image Quality. I strongly suggest you make the appropriate adjustments
to your software and operating systems to guarantee the densest and sharpest
image possible. No format less than 1024 x 768 should be submitted. It's
been generally accepted that a pixel density of 1280 x 1024 will achieve an
optimal result and should ensure a nice sharp image enlargement to approx
36" x" 30.

This really a matter of personal taste. Some members of the "fractint" and
"ultrafractal" mailing lists prefer using much denser, larger files. In
general I agree that the larger and denser your original image file, the
better quality print will be achieved. The problem is that moving 100-300
Meg files electronically is tough unless you have either a Cable
(Roadrunner), DSL, ISDN, T1, or T3 InterNet Service.

I've received several opinions from "fractalists" as to the best filesize
and density. In my experience, the larger the file and the larger the pixel
density, the more detail and the sharper the enlargement. Some folks have
sent me 7200x5400 pixel and larger sized files which are more than 100 Meg!

I've even received a 300+ Meg file on CD-Roms and 100+ Meg files on the 100
Meg &250 Meg Zip disks, and the results were as near perfect as perfect can
get.

Files that big have to be sent "snail-mail" or Fedex. Unless you have
Roadrunner or a T3 ISP service, it just isn't practical to send large files
like that electronically.

Whatever filesize and pixel density you send me, I will use my little bag of
tricks to bring out the details as best as I can, but please remember,
"Garbage in gets Garbage out". A good rule of thumb is that "most" nice,
clear, healthy, image files larger than 1 Meg up wiill yield good
enlargement results up to 30" x 36".

4.) Color Accuracy and rendition. I will endeavor to give you the best color
rendition of your fractal image that I possibly can. Please be aware that my
video card and monitor and printer does not interperet and print color the
same way as your video card, monitor, and printer do, so there will be
variations. Due to the limitations, and purposes of this project, exact
color matching is not viable due to these variables an therefore not an
ironclad guarantee of my work. Only physical samples submitted via "hard
copy" can provide the basis of any kind of exact color matching. There are
digital methods of color matching, but they are beyond the means and
capabilities of most members of the "ultrafractal" and "fractint" mailing
lists.

5.) Security and copyright. I work for you. All your images will be
considered as your property and as copyright material, and all your rights
and priveleges under US law will be observed and protected by me. Once I
have completed a print job for you, I will delete all files, and destroy all
test strips, and proofs. I will not make any un-authorised copies of your
original work. I will only print as many copies as you order me to print for
you. I work alone in my apartment. No one has access to my computers and
servers other than myself.

6.) Turn Around. I work as a computer technician in and around Woodstock. I
am a kind of country doctor for the PC users in my area so I often don't get
home until after 6:00 PM. I will endeavor to respond to all orders &
enquiries within 24 hours. Upon payment I will endeavor to complete and ship
all orders within 48-72 hours. You can call me via telephone and leave
messages on my voice-mail. Let the phone ring at least 6 times and the
voice-mail will answer the phone.

7.) Price & Payment. The all inclusive price is $50.00. This price includes
printing, packaging, USPS Priority Confirmed Delivery & Insurance to
anywhere in the continental USA. Fractalists in Alaska, Hawaii, Canada,
Mexico, and the rest of the world will have to pay for the extra postage. If
you want overnight delivery, then Fedex overnight service is available at an
extra cost.

8.) Terms. Upon my notifying you of the suitability of your fractal image
for printing, please send me payment via PayPal or Money order, Please do
not send me any regular, business, or personal checks. If you send me a
check I will wait the 2-3 weeks until the check has been irrevocably cleared
and posted to my account before I begin printing.

I like PayPal. It is easy, fast and reliable. Current PayPal users please
post the $50.00 to my email adderess at: [e-mail]

New users to PayPal simply login to the following URL with your Web Browser:

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9.) Guarantee & Returns. I will guarantee that my work shall be performed on
a "best effort" basis, & shall be free from any manufacturing or printing
defects. Color matching is not a basis for a return or refund. If you are
not satisfied with the print I will redo the print for free subject to your
written "hard copy" complaints, comments, and instructions accompanied by
the original print in question sent back to me at your own expense. There
will be no cash refunds. You will be charged for the additional postage. All
complaints must be communicated to me within 7 days of receiving the print
from me. Any physical damage, modifications, or changes to the print will
void any waranty obligations.

I hope that his covers just about everything and has placed it all on a
sensible business footing. I want you all to know that I look forward to
serving you in this way with a sense of excitement and pleasure, and I am
confident that I will give you the best possible print that can be extracted
from your Fractal Image.

All the best, and thank you again for thinking about me.

Tony Parker




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From: Ken MacLean <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Query
Date: 15 Dec 2001 23:03:37 -0500

Andrew -- That did help thanks. If there is already a fractint trig identities
page I sure as hell don't want to re-invent the wheel! I will look for an
equation in there for taking a complex base to a complex power.
-- Ken

Andrew Coppin wrote:

> >From: Ken MacLean <[e-mail]>
> >Reply-To: [e-mail]
> >To: [e-mail]
> >Subject: (fractint) Query
> >Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 13:31:05 -0500
> >
> >OK all of you math whizzes out there:
> >I wrote a mandelbrot generator and was working on a derivation for
> >raising a complex base to a complex exponent. I need for someone to tell
> >me if there is a problem with it. It seems to work when I check it on my
> >calculator, but I may have made some incorrect assumptions:
> >
> >say I want to raise a complex#  z to a complex power (a+bi):
> >
> >Let z = (x + iy). Then I wrote  z = (x + iy) = e^ln(x + iy).
> >z^(a + bi) = [e^ln(x + iy)]^(a + bi)
> >ln(z^(a + bi)) = (a + bi) * [ln(e^ln(x + iy))] = (a + bi) * ln(x + iy)
> >z^(a + bi) = e^[(a + bi) * ln(x + iy)]
> >
> >Is this right?
> >
> >Kenneth MacLean
>
> So... you're saying that (x+yi)^(a+bi) = e^[(a+b) * ln(x+yi)]? Well, since
> that's mearly an extension of the rule for real numbers that x^a = e^[a * ln
> x] then yes, you're right.
>
> Now, if you're gonna get a computer to do this, you need to work out how to
> compute ln and exp with complex-valued variabled.
>
> In case you don't already know, the formulas are
>   exp (x+yi) = (exp x) * (cos y + i sin y)  [y in RADIANS!]
>   ln z = Mag(Z) + Arg(z)*i [argument in RADIANS!]
> These are also shown in the FractInt online help (under "Trig Identities"
> IIRC)
>
> HTH. If not, email me back!
> Thanks.
> Andrew.
>
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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD  16-12-01  (Typical Sub-midget [6])
Date: 16 Dec 2001 10:28:07 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- December 16, 2001 (Rating 6)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Today's image is that of a midget that lies on the grossly
extended and distorted stem of a larger midget that lies on one
of the lightning-like filaments extending northward from one of
the Z^(1.23)+C Mandeloids.  (There are an infinity of such
Mandeloids.)

I named the image "Typical Sub-midget" to point out that
low-order midgets such as today's all start to look the same
after a while, featuring converging branch cuts and long broken
filaments.  This sameness runs throughout the world of fractals.

Back in the early days, when the only fractal available in the
program I used was the Z^2+C Mandelbrot set, I wondered how much
richer the higher-order fractals must be.  If Z^2 produced such
wonders, how much more wonderful must the Z^100 or Z^1000000
fractals be?  But when I finally found a program that let me
examine these fractals, I suffered a fractal let-down.  I
discovered that as the exponent grows larger, the fractal does
not grow richer, it grows boring because it all starts to look
the same.

My next hope was that the lower-order fractals between 1 and 2
would hold the extra richness I sought.  When Fractint finally
added the ability to draw the fractals with fractional
exponents, I got my chance to see what was down there.  Here, I
was less disappointed.  There are some interesting scenes to be
found in these realms, but once again, the farther from Z^2 I
ventured, the less interesting the fractals became.  I needed to
prove to myself that the Z^2 of the Mandelbrot set is truly the
apex of exponents.

The same thing happened when I found the MandelbrotMix4 formula.
This formula does actually draw images that have features not
found in the M-set, and has become my most-often-used formula.
But once again, I became ambitious.  If combining two powers of
Z draws such a varied collection of fractals, how much more
varied would the fractals be when 6, 12, or 24 powers of Z are
combined, I wondered.  I wrote several formulas that did just
this, but I used the formulas very little, because all the
fractals started to look the same, and were not worth the time
required to do the exploring.  In the world of fractals, as in
this world, simplicity is often the best solution.

Individual fractals are infinitely varied, but they are
infinitely varied within limits.  The secret is to explore near
those limits.

The rating of 6 is based on the intentionally strong colors I
gave the scene.  Without the coloring, the underlying image
would be worth only a 5 or so.

The render time of today's fiery image is a modest 10-1/2
minutes on my overworked and under-powered Pentium 200mhz
machine.  If this is too slow, the completed GIF image may be
found posted to Paul's web site at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and Scott's site at:

          <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>

The fractal weather Saturday turned out sunny enough, but the
fractal cats still complained about the brisk breeze and
temperature of 55F 13C, which chilled their ears when they
ventured outdoors.

Having had little success at taking it easy yesterday, I'm ready
to try again today.  Tomorrow, as always, I'll return with
another fractal.  Until then, take care, and give every fractal
a fair chance.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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Subject: (fractint) Migration of list to mailman
Date: 16 Dec 2001 21:52:53 -0600

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Date: 17 Dec 2001 18:49:17 -0600

I have completed adding all the fractint and fractdev and
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From: "Zawoznik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Franktal Gallery is back !
Date: 17 Dec 2001 22:31:52 -0600

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Hi people, long time since my last post... Are you still there ?
Or everybody moved to UltraFractal ??  ;-)

This is to inform you that my Franktal Gallery is back, with new
fractal pics, music PARs, ray-traced fractals, and other stuff.=20

Check it out at

http://www.geocities.com/franktal2002

Best regards, it's good to be back....

Miguel Fliguer
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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