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From: "William S. Morton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) first post
Date: 05 Sep 1999 12:31:04 -0700

To whom any of this may concern;
I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98,
dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how
to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run.
I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running
DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators
like it remain 'un-openable' for me.
If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even
ebonics)
how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful!
Thanks!
                      Sarge


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From: Theo Bakker <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Handleiding.
Date: 05 Sep 1999 22:21:28 +0200

Onlangs heb ik (in Word) een nederlandstalige gebruikershandleiding
geschreven. Wil je 'm hebben, mail mij dat dan even.

Groetjes,

Theo.
--
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H. Roland Holstlaan 29          UIN 8400214 (ICQ)
2162 JE Lisse
0252-413775

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From: BILL RAY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) first post
Date: 05 Sep 1999 18:31:10 -0400

I had the same problem and someone suggested that I reboot in DOS.  When
I did that and arrived at the DOS screen I was able to get Fractint 19.6
to work without a problem.

Just in case you might not know how, call up the Windows Start Menu
either by clicking on the "Start" button on the lower left-hand side of
your task bar.  Alternatively, you can press the "Windows" key (it's the
key with the Windows logo on its face) between the "Ctrl" and "Alt" keys
on either side of the space bar..  This will also bring up the Start
menu.  Choose "shut down" on the bottom of the menu and then click
"Restart the computer in MS-DOS mode".  Good luck and enjoy Fractint.
The DOS version is much better than Winfract.

"William S. Morton" wrote:

> To whom any of this may concern;
> I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98,
> dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how
> to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run.
> I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running
> DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators
> like it remain 'un-openable' for me.
> If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even
> ebonics)
> how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful!
> Thanks!
>                       Sarge
>
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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: first post
Date: 05 Sep 1999 20:13:20 -0400 (EDT)

At 12:31 PM 9/5/99 -0700, you wrote:
>To whom any of this may concern;
>I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98,
>dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how
>to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run.
>I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running
>DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators
>like it remain 'un-openable' for me.
>If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even
>ebonics)
>how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful!
>Thanks!
>                      Sarge
>

Did you unzip the file?  If I remember correctly, frain196 is a
compressed archive file which must be unzipped before it can be run.
The actual Fractint executable file is <fractint.exe>

Jim M.


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From: "Terry Erickson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Running "frain196.zip"
Date: 05 Sep 1999 18:57:51 -0700

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Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if you do, You can get =
Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or Cnet or =
Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping files. There =
are also a couple of other uncompressor programs out there, too.=20
Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint (DOS version) :
Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard drive)
Create a directory (folder) called Fractint in there.
Unzip "frain196" into it.  If you've got Winzip installed, it's easy- =
double-click the "frain196.zip" icon. Choose "extract" . In the Extract =
to: box, type  C:\Fractint  to send it into the folder you created.=20
Now all the files are in the Fractint directory in C: .
Click "shut down, and "restart in DOS mode, "  and type=20
"CD\" at the prompt.
enter.
Then type "fractint"
and it should run.=20
You'll figger it out from there.=20
Fractint will create a word.doc that explains a lot of the functions. I =
forget how to make it do that . . .
One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom in.=20
Hit "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom out.
You can hit "c" twice to begin color cycling.
"esc." and "s" to save.
Aloha.


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<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if =
you do, You=20
can get Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or Cnet =
or=20
Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping files. There =
are also=20
a couple of other uncompressor programs out there, too. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint =
(DOS=20
version) :</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard =
drive)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Create a directory (folder) called Fractint in=20
there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Unzip "frain196" into it.  If you've got Winzip =

installed, it's easy- double-click the "frain196.zip" icon. Choose =
"extract" .=20
In the Extract to: box, type  C:\Fractint  to send it into the =
folder=20
you created. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Now all the files are in the Fractint directory in =
C:=20
.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Click "shut down, and "restart in DOS mode, "  =
and type=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"CD\" at the prompt.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>enter.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Then type "fractint"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>and it should run. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>You'll figger it out from there. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Fractint will create a word.doc that explains a lot =
of the=20
functions. I forget how to make it do that . . .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom =
in.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hit "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom=20
out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>You can hit "c" twice to begin color =
cycling.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"esc." and "s" to save.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Aloha.</FONT></DIV>
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From: "Terry Erickson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) running FRACTINT 19.6
Date: 05 Sep 1999 19:45:53 -0700

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Sorry- I forgot part of the DOS part. This is a revised version.

Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if you do, You can get =
Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or Cnet or =
Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping files. There =
are also a couple of other uncompressor programs out there, too.=20
Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint (DOS version) :
Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard drive)
Create a directory (folder) called Fractint in there.
Unzip "frain196" into it.  If you've got Winzip installed, it's easy- =
double-click the "frain196.zip" icon. Choose "extract" . In the Extract =
to: box, type  C:\Fractint  to send it into the folder you created.=20
Now all the files are in the Fractint directory in C: .
------------
Click "shut down, and "restart in DOS mode, "  and type=20
"cd\" at the prompt.
enter.
Type "cd fractint" , "enter" to change the default directory.=20
You should see the prompt, "C:\FRACTINT" on your screen.=20
Then type "fractint"
and it should run.=20
You'll figger it out from there.=20
Fractint will create a word.doc that explains a lot of the functions. I =
forget how to make it do that . . .
One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom in.=20
Hit "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom out.
You can hit "c" twice to begin color cycling.
"esc." and "s" to save.
Aloha.


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sorry- I forgot part of the DOS part. This is a =
revised=20
version.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if =
you do, You=20
can get Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or Cnet =
or=20
Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping files. There =
are also=20
a couple of other uncompressor programs out there, too. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint =
(DOS=20
version) :</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard =
drive)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Create a directory (folder) called Fractint in=20
there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Unzip "frain196" into it.  If you've got Winzip =

installed, it's easy- double-click the "frain196.zip" icon. Choose =
"extract" .=20
In the Extract to: box, type  C:\Fractint  to send it into the =
folder=20
you created. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Now all the files are in the Fractint directory in =
C:=20
.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>------------</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Click "shut down, and "restart in DOS mode, "  =
and type=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"cd\" at the prompt.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>enter.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Type "cd fractint" , "enter" to change the default directory. =
</DIV>
<DIV>You should see the prompt, "C:\FRACTINT" on your screen. </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Then type "fractint"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>and it should run. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>You'll figger it out from there. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Fractint will create a word.doc that explains a lot =
of the=20
functions. I forget how to make it do that . . .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom =
in.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hit "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom=20
out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>You can hit "c" twice to begin color =
cycling.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"esc." and "s" to save.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Aloha.</FONT></DIV>
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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Luc-Andr=E9_Rey?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) The fractal's artist of the month - update
Date: 07 Sep 1999 14:53:21 +0200

Hello,

New pages in the site.
The fractal's artist of this month is Sylvie Gallet.

(I'ts still possible to admire the pictures of Lee Skinner, "Fractal's
artist of the month of august).

Regards
Luc-Andre

http://www.aour.ch




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From: "William S. Morton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) running FRACTINT 19.6
Date: 06 Sep 1999 12:34:33 -0700


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I unzipped it incorrectly the 1st time around, so I
re-downloaded it, followed your instructions(unzip to Fractint folder
in C directory) and now it auto-runs perfectly when I double-
click it while in Windows98! One question, though. Will I get
deep-zooming ONLY if I restart in MSDOS mode, or can I
still do that while in Windows98?
Anyway...THANKS!!!
                                       Sarge

Terry Erickson wrote:

> Sorry- I forgot part of the DOS part. This is a revised
> version. Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if you do,
> You can get Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or
> Cnet or Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping
> files. There are also a couple of other uncompressor programs out
> there, too.Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint (DOS
> version) :Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard drive)Create a
> directory (folder) called Fractint in there.Unzip "frain196" into it.
> If you've got Winzip installed, it's easy- double-click the
> "frain196.zip" icon. Choose "extract" . In the Extract to: box, type
> C:\Fractint  to send it into the folder you created.Now all the files
> are in the Fractint directory in C: .------------Click "shut down, and
> "restart in DOS mode, "  and type"cd\" at the prompt.enter.Type "cd
> fractint" , "enter" to change the default directory.You should see the
> prompt, "C:\FRACTINT" on your screen.Then type "fractint"and it should
> run.You'll figger it out from there.Fractint will create a word.doc
> that explains a lot of the functions. I forget how to make it do that
> . . .One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom in.Hit
> "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom out.You can hit "c"
> twice to begin color cycling."esc." and "s" to save.Aloha.

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I unzipped it incorrectly the 1st time around, so I
<br>re-downloaded it, followed your instructions(unzip to Fractint folder
<br>in C directory) and now it auto-runs perfectly when I double-
<br>click it while in Windows98! One question, though. Will I get
<br>deep-zooming ONLY if I restart in MSDOS mode, or can I
<br>still do that while in Windows98?
<br>Anyway...THANKS!!!
<br>
Sarge
<p>Terry Erickson wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style>
<font size=-1>Sorry- I forgot part
of the DOS part. This is a revised version.</font> <font size=-1>Sarge-
If you don't already know, and excuse me if you do, You can get Winzip
at just about any download website, like Tucows or Cnet or Winfiles.com
. It is very useful in Windows for unzipping files. There are also a couple
of other uncompressor programs out there, too.</font><font size=-1>Anyway,
I think this is a good way to run Fractint (DOS version) :</font><font size=-1>Go
to your root directory (C:\ - your hard drive)</font><font size=-1>Create
a directory (folder) called Fractint in there.</font><font size=-1>Unzip
"frain196" into it.  If you've got Winzip installed, it's easy- double-click
the "frain196.zip" icon. Choose "extract" . In the Extract to: box, type
C:\Fractint  to send it into the folder you created.</font><font size=-1>Now
all the files are in the Fractint directory in C: .</font><font size=-1>------------</font><font size=-1>Click
"shut down, and "restart in DOS mode, "  and type</font><font size=-1>"cd\"
at the prompt.</font><font size=-1>enter.</font><font size=-1>Type "cd
fractint" , "enter" to change the default directory.</font><font size=-1>You
should see the prompt, "C:\FRACTINT" on your screen.</font><font size=-1>Then
type "fractint"</font><font size=-1>and it should run.</font><font size=-1>You'll
figger it out from there.</font><font size=-1>Fractint will create a word.doc
that explains a lot of the functions. I forget how to make it do that .
. .</font><font size=-1>One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to
zoom in.</font><font size=-1>Hit "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter"
to zooom out.</font><font size=-1>You can hit "c" twice to begin color
cycling.</font><font size=-1>"esc." and "s" to save.</font><font size=-1>Aloha.</font> </blockquote>

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From: "William S. Morton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) first post
Date: 06 Sep 1999 12:36:13 -0700

I unzipped it CORRECTLY this time around! Now it auto-starts while in
Windows98!  Thanks!!!                Sarge

BILL RAY wrote:

> I had the same problem and someone suggested that I reboot in DOS.  When
> I did that and arrived at the DOS screen I was able to get Fractint 19.6
> to work without a problem.
>
> Just in case you might not know how, call up the Windows Start Menu
> either by clicking on the "Start" button on the lower left-hand side of
> your task bar.  Alternatively, you can press the "Windows" key (it's the
> key with the Windows logo on its face) between the "Ctrl" and "Alt" keys
> on either side of the space bar..  This will also bring up the Start
> menu.  Choose "shut down" on the bottom of the menu and then click
> "Restart the computer in MS-DOS mode".  Good luck and enjoy Fractint.
> The DOS version is much better than Winfract.
>
> "William S. Morton" wrote:
>
> > To whom any of this may concern;
> > I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98,
> > dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how
> > to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run.
> > I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running
> > DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators
> > like it remain 'un-openable' for me.
> > If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even
> > ebonics)
> > how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful!
> > Thanks!
> >                       Sarge
> >
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From: "William S. Morton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: first post
Date: 06 Sep 1999 12:37:54 -0700

I unzipped it CORRECTLY this time around. Now it auto- runs when I
click on it while in Windows98!   THANKS!!!     Sarge

Jim Muth wrote:

> At 12:31 PM 9/5/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >To whom any of this may concern;
> >I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98,
> >dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how
> >to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run.
> >I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running
> >DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators
> >like it remain 'un-openable' for me.
> >If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even
> >ebonics)
> >how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful!
> >Thanks!
> >                      Sarge
> >
>
> Did you unzip the file?  If I remember correctly, frain196 is a
> compressed archive file which must be unzipped before it can be run.
> The actual Fractint executable file is <fractint.exe>
>
> Jim M.
>
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From: "Terry Erickson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) resources
Date: 06 Sep 1999 21:18:37 -0700

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Sarge- I don't know how deep, but Fractint will zoom pretty deep under =
Windows98. You may not notice much difference, except that the mouse =
doesn't work under DOS only. I'm sure that's not the only difference, =
though. ;-)  I like to shut down Windows and run Fractint in "DOS mode", =
'cause then I think Windows is not there (supposedly) to use up system =
resources.
I do know that I am no expert, but there is an excellent resource for us =
which has been prepared by generous and dedicated individuals at-
http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/findex.html#seach_anchor
and there are more fun things to learn back at the Fractint website,
http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/fractint.html

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difference,=20
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run=20
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(supposedly) to=20
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excellent=20
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individuals=20
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Ragweed par
Date: 07 Sep 1999 00:57:02 EDT

IN a moment of lapse, I've lost Bill at NY's recent ragweed ifs post-would
some kind soul forward a copy of the first e-mail with the main corpus to me
off the list, please?
[e-mail]  is the address. Thank you very much, in advance!

~~ren

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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) running FRACTINT 19.6
Date: 06 Sep 1999 15:22:37 -0500

William S. Morton wrote:
>
> ... (unzip to Fractint folder in C directory) and
> now it auto-runs perfectly when I double-click it
> while in Windows98!  One question, though.  Will I
> get deep-zooming ONLY if I restart in MSDOS mode,
> or can I still do that while in Windows98?
>

You can still get deep zooms while in Windows 98.  You may wish to read
the following "tips" for running FractInt under a Windows environment:

     http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fracwin95.html

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http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go

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From: "Abi Nathan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) first post
Date: 06 Sep 1999 15:24:59 +1000

You could try this,
If you find the file fractint.exe, with Explorer, right click on it you will
have the chance to set the properties for this executable file i.e.
fractint.exe. By juggling the settings found there, you create a .pif file
(program information file) which then runs the program when you execute it.
I've had no problem since - have fun!

[e-mail]
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 5:31 AM


> To whom any of this may concern;
> I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98,
> dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how
> to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run.
> I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running
> DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators
> like it remain 'un-openable' for me.
> If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even
> ebonics)
> how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful!
> Thanks!
>                       Sarge
>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Ragweed par
Date: 07 Sep 1999 09:32:09 EDT

In a message dated 99-09-07 08:09:38 EDT, *Bill Decker* wrote:

<< Bill at NY is another Bill <snip>  >>
Whups...I'm sorry for my confusion.  I'd spent a couple of hours tucking away
pars collected from the listmail so by the time I realized I had lost your
par all I recalled for sure was that it was an IFS by "Bill".  I'll blame it
on an angry wisdom tooth<g>.

Thank you very much(!) for sending me the par, the IFS will be a new Fractint
experience for me; I haven't played with that capability yet.

~~ren

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From: Thore Berntsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Some questions?
Date: 07 Sep 1999 09:49:44 +0200

I'm now working on a new version of my Fractint Screen Saver, that some
of You may have seen. And I have a few questions that I hope some of You
can answer.

1.    When running Fractint in disk-video mode. What is the fastest
setting for the PASSES= parameter. My guess is that it is the 1 or 2
passes setting. Are there any circumstanses where I can't use these
settings?

2.    Is there any way to get rid of the warning message that one gets
when trying to generate IFS fractals in disk video mode? I would like to
allow these in my screen saver.


Thore Berntsen
Norway
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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Contest Update
Date: 07 Sep 1999 19:52:06 -0500

Greetings folks,

For those of you wondering where the contest entries are... I thought I'd
fill you in a little bit. I've gone through all the contest entry
submission mail over the past two months and verified the files for each
entry. I currently have 401 images and animations, amounting to over 76M of
material, in compressed form. This is a few more than Kerry has in his
database, because there were some stragglers that he doesn't have yet.
There are still a few minor changes we need to make before we can pour all
the entries into the web site.

There is a reason we didn't just put everything up right away and then make
corrections later, and that reason is the CD. With this year's contest
being so large (downloadable packs will probably total 80M, twice the size
of last year's) I expect people to be very interested in ordering that CD,
and once it's burned, it becomes very difficult to make changes. :-) So we
want to get it right the first time, and if that means taking a few extra
days to get everything lined up... then I think it's for the best.

Since I don't actually *have* the database yet, I don't have listings of
how many entries are in each category. I'll let you know once I have that
information. I do expect to have the entries online before the end of the
week; right now I'm projecting Thursday evening, possibly *late* Thursday
evening, but it may be Friday. CD-ROM information will be posted at that
time. Downloadable packs will likely take an extra day.

Damien M. Jones   \\
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                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or
in a newsgroup.  Thank you.

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From: "William S. Morton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) thanks
Date: 07 Sep 1999 20:22:30 -0700

I've been getting more support than expected! Thanks to everyone for
your
time & wisdom. Yes, I've got Fractint up & running on my pc. Still
fine-tuning
here & there. (Now, if only I had a transform command that would
instantly
make any given fractal to become a Lee Skinner true color ghost
fractal!)
                                                           Sarge


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From: Dusan Djordjevic <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint 4NT
Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:52:40 +0200

What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux ? Are they going to be
coded and when ?

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From: "James R. McKenzie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT
Date: 08 Sep 1999 02:25:14 -0400

XFRACT is the unix/linux version of FRACTINT it's kinda long on the tooth
but it's ot there somewhere check the spanky site, or do a search somewhere
like WWW.GOOGLE.COM

Can't help with the NT version info though.

Sorry

                             T H A N K   Y O U


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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT
Date: 08 Sep 1999 01:48:17 -0500

Dusan Djordjevic wrote:
>
> What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux?
> Are they going to be coded and when?
>

Based upon a recent email from one of the Developers, there is a
"proposed Xfractint" that is "is still pretty rough".  But they "are
inches from releasing a new version of Fractint.  The only reason it
isn't released now is that" two individuals involved "have requested
time to make some evolver and sound demos."

There will be an announcement in this Discussion List, so look for it in
the near future.

P.N.L.
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From: "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT
Date: 08 Sep 1999 08:53:25 -0300


----- Original Message -----


> What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux ? Are they going to be
> coded and when ?

I downloaded frain196.zip at college and unzipped in a NT machine. It worked
fine, except for teh video modes. In that machine I had only permissiona to
save files in the temp directory.
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From: "Scott D. Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT
Date: 08 Sep 1999 10:09:55 -0500

On Tue, 07 Sep 1999, you wrote:
> What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux ? Are they going to be
> coded and when ?
>
The source for xfractint is available from the main fractint site at: =20
http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html. (The link to it is on=
 that
page.)  I had some problems compiling it for Linux, so I've made availabl=
e
a binary package of xfractint that runs on Redhat Linux 5.2 with kernel=20
2.0.37. You're welcome to try it on your Linux box and let me know if it =
works
for you. It's available at: http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/xfractint.htm=
l,
along with some hints and tips on using it.

Scott
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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT
Date: 08 Sep 1999 17:39:15 -0600

Scott wrote:


>You're welcome to try it on your Linux box and let me know if it

> works

<color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>> for you. It's available at: http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/xfractint.html,

> along with some hints and tips on using it.


</color>The proposed Xfractint release corresponding to Fractint 20.0 (not
quite released yet so don't ask - but we are talking hours or days,
not weeks) is at:


<underline><color><param>0000,8000,0000</param><FontFamily><param>Times New Roman</param>ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/tw04.zip</underline></color>


<FontFamily><param>Arial</param>Please don't upload this anwhere as I already know of some small
changes I want to make, so there will be a slightly different release
package in a few hours.


As Paul quoted me, I called this "rough", although it is cleaner than
past Xfractint packages. I am not too pleased with the Makefile,
which I changed just enough to work with Red Hat 5.2. If anyone
has suggested improvements let me know. For example, what are
reasonable SRCDIR and BINDIIR locations?


Also, we are putting all of Wizzle's maps in this release. For
Xfractint, I just dumped them all into the release package. I should
probably do something more elegant. For the DOS package, right
now


Scott, your hints on your Website look useful. Would you care to
put them in a text file to be placed in the distribution?


Tim


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From: "Bruce Nepple" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) True Color in Fractint
Date: 09 Sep 1999 14:24:44 -0700


I have not been able to find a way to modify the colors when I select
1024X768x64M colors.  I get a nice blue mandlebrot that I cannot modify.
Am I missing something obvious?

bruce

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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint
Date: 09 Sep 1999 19:00:39 -0400

At 02:24 PM 9/9/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>
>I have not been able to find a way to modify the colors when I select
>1024X768x64M colors.  I get a nice blue mandlebrot that I cannot modify.
>Am I missing something obvious?
>
>bruce

I think Fractint, at 1024 x 768 only supports up to 256 colors (.gif). Try
resetting to that and see if that works.


[e-mail]
[e-mail]
Back up my hard drive?
How do I put it in reverse?

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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint
Date: 09 Sep 1999 18:45:22 -0600


In article <[e-mail]>,
    "Bruce Nepple" <[e-mail]>  writes:

> I have not been able to find a way to modify the colors when I select
> 1024X768x64M colors.  I get a nice blue mandlebrot that I cannot modify.
> Am I missing something obvious?

Umm... fractint has extremely limited support for anything other than
8bit pallette-based image output.  All of fractint's video output is
built around <= 8bit deep displays.  This assumption permeates all of
the fractint code.  16/24/32 bit deep displays (64K/16.7M colors) just
weren't around when fractint's video code was written.  The developers
of fractint are working on changing this situation, but its slow
going because of the amount of code that needs to be changed.

Also, in 16/24/32 bit video mode there is no longer any colormap to
modify, so there is no way to change the colors the way fractint knows
how to change them (modifying the colormap).  The only "truecolor
support" in support in fractint is the ability to write out the
iteration value to a targa file called iterates.tga.  You enable this
with the truecolor=yes option.

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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 09 Sep 1999 22:36:14 -0600

Fractint version 20 is available now at my FTP site. As soon as
Noel gets it to spanky.triumf.ca, that will be the preferred download
site. Meanwhile, the URL's at my site are:

User package:
ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frain200.zip

Developer source:
ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frasr200.zip

I'd appreciate confirmation from a few of the early downloaders that
the integrity of the package looks OK.

The best way to get into the new features is to run the evolver and
sound demos. These are accessible from demp.bat run in a clean
directory with all the distribution files.

The Xfractint release needs a day or two to finish, however the file
tw04.zip at my ftp site is nearly complete. It just needs the
help?.src files updated from the DOS package andf some Makefile
cleanup. Please don't upload tw04.zip anywhere since it is not
quite final. The final version will be along very soon.

It's OK to upload frain200.zip and frasr200.zip to other sites, but
prudence might dictating waiting 24 hours or so to see if I screwed
up in any big way putting the package together :-)

Tim Wegner


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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint
Date: 09 Sep 1999 22:42:51 -0600

Rich said:

> Umm... fractint has extremely limited support for anything other than
> 8bit pallette-based image output.  All of fractint's video output is
> built around <= 8bit deep displays.

True. However the truecolor drivers are implemented, and some
reasonable truecolor support would not be hard to implement, even
within the frustrating confines of the DOS existing medium memory
model architecture. It's just that nobody has jumped in to do it.
We'd probably have to save the files as Targas for know and
convert to PNG offline.

However I think we have a consensus that moving Fractint to a flat
memory model is the highest priority. That's were I will focus my
efforts, although I have a steep learning curve no matter which way
we go. Once we are in a decent platform, we can do a massive
cleanup. Of course Rich knows all about this :-)

Tim


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 10 Sep 1999 12:52 0000

Hi Tim,

It looks OK so far and I have the source and executables available
from my site in the UK:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/olig/olig.htm

or at the wishlist site:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/fracwish.htm

Anyone wishing to report <gasp!> bugs in this version should visit:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm

Though we would really appreciate it if you spent a bit of time finding
out as much as you can about any misbehaviour you find before
reporting, thanks!

Anyone wanting help on using the evolver or sound stuff feel free
to drop me a line :-)

Cheers,
          Robin.



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From:    "Fliguer, Miguel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:37 -0300



>>>It looks OK so far and I have the source and executables available
>>>from my site in the UK

The link for the source code

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/FRASR200.ZIP

is not working (I also tried lowercase for the filename)

Regards,
Miguel Fliguer
Buenos Aires, Argentina


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From: "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint
Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:43:22 -0300


----- Original Message -----

> The only "truecolor
> support" in support in fractint is the ability to write out the
> iteration value to a targa file called iterates.tga.  You enable this
> with the truecolor=yes option.

Hi, I used this option and found the iterates.tga in my \fractint\temp
directory. Now what can I do with it, since I don┤t even now what *.tga
means...
Thanks,
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From:    "Fliguer, Miguel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!!
Date: 10 Sep 1999 11:01:23 -0300

Oh no !

I just tried V20 (on a Vectra/Windows NT 4.0/Integrated SiS video)
and the first thing I noticed was that I'm not able to get SF5
(640x480x256) anymore !!! It says "This video mode is not available
with your adapter", but it worked on v19.6 !

A little conspiracy theory is in order. Since this happens on the
PC at my work, I'll be forced to do medium and high-res Fractint
only at home. Maybe my boss asked for this on the wish list ...

BTW, the new features look awesome in the help file, I can't wait
to get home to try them...

Miguel Fliguer
Buenos Aires, Argentina

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From: "kanak" <[e-mail]>
Subject: R: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!!
Date: 10 Sep 1999 16:30:00 +0200

do you want me to send you the FRACTINT 19.6 zip ?

tell me your address

kanak
Roma, Italy

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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint
Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:27:05 -0600


In article <000f01befb92$825bbdc0$a085f6c8@winnetou>,
    "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" <[e-mail]>  writes:

> Hi, I used this option and found the iterates.tga in my \fractint\temp
> directory. Now what can I do with it, since I don't even now what *.tga
> means...

If you don't have any programming knowledge, then it won't do you any
good.  See the help file where it states that truecolor=yes writes the
last iterate out to an iterates.tga file and then it directs you to
consult a C code source file in the distribution that will show you
how to write a program to read the iterates.tga file and then do
something with it.  In other words: this truecolor=yes feature is for
expert programmer types, not the typical user.
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) v20.0 source
Date: 10 Sep 1999 17:05 0000

Thanks for pointing out the broken link Miguel, I had the .zip part of
the file name in lower case for some reason... all fixed now.

Cheers,
        Robin.


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From: noel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:20:39 -0700 (PDT)


Tim Wegner wrote:

>Fractint version 20 is available now at my FTP site. As soon as
>Noel gets it to spanky.triumf.ca, that will be the preferred download
>site. Meanwhile, the URL's at my site are:

    The fractint page at Spanky:

    http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html

Now points to the new version 20.0 of Fractint. None of the online
docs are updated to the new version yet. That will take a few days,
but the sourcecode and executable distributions can now be downloaded
from the fractint website.

    Cheers,
    Noel


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From: JoWeber <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!!
Date: 10 Sep 1999 16:01:37 -0400

Hi All,

you can download fractint v20.0 from my site
http://www.hajoweber.de/download/program/fraint.exe

or using http://www.joweber.de and visiting the download page.

cheers --Jo Weber--

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 10 Sep 1999 22:54:15 -0500

Tim,

 - It's OK to upload frain200.zip and frasr200.zip to other sites, but
 - prudence might dictating waiting 24 hours or so to see if I screwed
 - up in any big way putting the package together :-)

(smile) Well if you release an update, I'll grab it. As it is, the 20.0
package is also available here:

    ftp://ftp.fractalus.com/pub/tools-pc/fractint-20.0.zip

Just in case anyone has any trouble connecting to the zillions of OTHER
sites that have it. :)

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From: "Mike Traynor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 11 Sep 1999 00:16:13 -0400

Damien,

> Just in case anyone has any trouble connecting to the zillions of OTHER
> sites that have it. :)

What, you mean there are folk that did not have it downloaded within
minutes of Tim's announcement?

I've only had a minute's look, but that evolver sure is cool.




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From: "William S. Morton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 10 Sep 1999 23:15:17 -0700

For recent newcomers to Fractint (aka ME), the Evolver feature is a real
timesaver,
(as well as a bitchin' 72+ image screensaver)!

Tim Wegner wrote:

> Fractint version 20 is available now at my FTP site. As soon as
> Noel gets it to spanky.triumf.ca, that will be the preferred download
> site. Meanwhile, the URL's at my site are:
>
> User package:
> ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frain200.zip
>
> Developer source:
> ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frasr200.zip
>
> I'd appreciate confirmation from a few of the early downloaders that
> the integrity of the package looks OK.
>
> The best way to get into the new features is to run the evolver and
> sound demos. These are accessible from demp.bat run in a clean
> directory with all the distribution files.
>
> The Xfractint release needs a day or two to finish, however the file
> tw04.zip at my ftp site is nearly complete. It just needs the
> help?.src files updated from the DOS package andf some Makefile
> cleanup. Please don't upload tw04.zip anywhere since it is not
> quite final. The final version will be along very soon.
>
> It's OK to upload frain200.zip and frasr200.zip to other sites, but
> prudence might dictating waiting 24 hours or so to see if I screwed
> up in any big way putting the package together :-)
>
> Tim Wegner
>
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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!!
Date: 11 Sep 1999 09:01:26 -0600

Miguel wrote:

> I just tried V20 (on a Vectra/Windows NT 4.0/Integrated SiS video)
> and the first thing I noticed was that I'm not able to get SF5
> (640x480x256) anymore !!! It says "This video mode is not available
> with your adapter", but it worked on v19.6 !

I am surprised that anything about 20.0 would have different video
performance from 19.6, but anything is possible, especially under
NT.

I doubt this will help you, but might be of general interest. Version
20.0 comes with a program called makefcfg.exe that reads your
VESA Video BIOS and writes a fractint.cfg file. I suggest you try
this and tell us what modes are produced.

This is a quick way to see what video modes fractint supports -
better try this in the store before buying a computer :-) It is also a
handy way to get set up for semi-standard VESA modes such as
1600x1200.

Tim


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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 11 Sep 1999 09:16:17 -0600

Damien wrote:

> (smile) Well if you release an update, I'll grab it. As it is, the 20.0
> package is also available here:
>
>     ftp://ftp.fractalus.com/pub/tools-pc/fractint-20.0.zip

So far no show stoppers. There are a few places in the docs that
say the pixel limit is 2048, and  there are a few glitches in the
demo.bat file, so I think we're safe from an immediate release of
a bug fix 20.1 (knock on wood) :-)

Tim


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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents...
Date: 11 Sep 1999 09:41:17 -0500

Are you ready for "Burn All GIFs Day":
    http://burnallgifs.org/

The event, which so far isn't scheduled for an actual date, was started
in anger over the discovery that Unisys <http://www.unisys.com> is
making a new effort to extract royalties out of US patent 4,558,302,
commonly known as the LZW compression method.  Created by Terry Welch of
Sperry Corporation in 1983, LZW eventually became Unisys property when
Sperry merged with Burroughs Corporation to form Unisys in 1986.  LZW is
at the heart of the GIF file format.  If you make or store GIF files,
you're using patented LZW formulas -- and Unisys wants money from you.

Of course, this means that GIFs are off-limits to open source users, who
aren't used to paying for licenses.  The League for Programming Freedom
(LPF), which is closely related to the GNU project (LPF was co-founded
by GNU leader Richard Stallman), is trying to fight this kind of
technology hoarding.  And, as a result, you'll see no GIFs on the GNU or
LPF Web sites.

As far as the GIF-using community knew, no terms existed on using the
GIF format until 1995, when CompuServe shocked its community by
revealing its deal with Unisys and spelling out terms by which
developers would pay licensing fees.

But that agreement covered only CompuServe users.  The rest of the
online community was -- and is -- still open to attack.  While
maintaining that users of GIF viewers were safe, Unisys began pursuing
its patent claims against companies whose graphics software was capable
of writing GIF-format files.  To let everyone know it was serious,
Unisys in 1998 went after Corel and was able to get retroactive fees in
an out-of-court settlement.

--- Fork it over ---
Unisys now says that it wants a $5,000 license from anyone running a Web
site that contains GIF files made by unlicensed creation software.

For more information on the above story, go to the following URL:

http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/linux/news/0,6423,2330029,00.html



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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 11 Sep 1999 12:44:20 -0700

At 09:16 AM 9/11/99 -0600, Tim wrote:
>So far no show stoppers. There are a few places in the docs that
>say the pixel limit is 2048, and  there are a few glitches in the
>demo.bat file, so I think we're safe from an immediate release of
>a bug fix 20.1 (knock on wood) :-)

I had a minor problem.  When in evolver mode, I invoked the
Ctrl-E command to modify things, and Fractint failed to switch
video mode back to text 320x200.  While accessing both the
first and F6 screens, all text was written over the prior image.
I had to quit and restart to clear the bug.  I was not able to
reproduce the problem.  I was running an AMD 80 Mhz 486DX2,
with MS.DOS v6.22 and a Trident 8900-based ISA video card,
in SF5 mode.

Here's my sstools.ini:

textsafe=no
sound=off
fastrestore=yes
askvideo=no
video=SF5
colors=@temp1a.map
maxiter=300
recordcolors=yes

Also, an observation/request/complaint (choose one):
it would seem to be more natural to use the p(n) data for the
current image in x/y mode, rather than require the user to
manually enter the lower left corner data.

Other than that, I am enjoying the heck out of my new toy!


Thanks, Bud


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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) V.20 early par
Date: 11 Sep 1999 16:00:47 -0400

An early par out v.20:

Thought I would take a few minutes break time and see if I could get
anything out of Fractint v.20. The color map started out as Droz12 or 13
which I proceeded to modify.

And here is the result:

ds2                { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 11, 1999 t=  0:02:16.77
                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768
  reset=2000 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=sin/sqr passes=b
  center-mag=-0.00000000000000067/+0.00000000000000044/1.36612
  params=0/0/1.75 float=y maxiter=500 bailout=4 inside=zmag decomp=256
  colors=000vrR<11>dJ9cG8aD6<2>Y42W00X31<11>pfLqiNslP<3>zzW<11>fLBdI9bE8<3\
  >W00<7>l_IncKqhM<3>zzW<5>kWHhREfLB<3>W00W00<9>nbKpfMrjO<3>zzW<9>gOCeKAcG\
  8<2>Y42W00W00<13>pgMrjOsmP<3>zzW<7>iREgNCdIA<3>W00<16>qiNslPtoQ<3>zzW<4>\
  lZIjTFgNC<3>W00<11>oeLqhNslO<2>xvUzzWywV<9>fNCeJAcF8<3>W00<9>nbKpfMrjO<3\
  >zzW<3>kWGgOCcG8_84W00<11>tnP
  }



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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents...
Date: 11 Sep 1999 17:05:21 -0400

At 09:41 AM 9/11/1999 -0500, Paul Lee wrote:
>Are you ready for "Burn All GIFs Day":

(snipped)

>--- Fork it over ---
>Unisys now says that it wants a $5,000 license from anyone running a Web
>site that contains GIF files made by unlicensed creation software.

I, for one, thank you for posting this message to this list. In the near
(hopefully, if I can find time between rennovating one house, getting
another ready to sell, and so on) I was giving serious consideration to
putting up a web site as I have threatened to do for some time. And as part
of the site, I would of course have probably put up a fractal "gallery"
(stop rolling on the floor laughing!) which would probably have had .gif
images, though I may have converted to .jpg for space considerations.

There is no question now. Should I obtain the time, all images will be
converted into .jpg format - until royalties become required for them also.








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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Contest 99 Category Breakdown (and other stats)
Date: 11 Sep 1999 16:25:47 -0500

Greetings folks,

In case you're wondering why the contest entries aren't posted yet, it's
because I've been busy putting out other fires. I've verified all entries
in the database as best I can, though, so I thought I'd post this information.

Note: the total for software adds up to more than the number of entries.
This is because a very large number of entries used more than one software
package.

Categories
----------
Emotion:                40
Organic:               101
Mechanical:             29
Abstract:              124
Quote Interpretation:   34
Limited Color:          24
3D:                     29
Animations:             24

Total:                 405 <-- !!

Software
--------
Ultra Fractal:         154
Fractint:               68
TieraZon & TieraZon 2:  42
Photoshop:              34
Paint Shop Pro:         24
KPT 5:                  14
SterlingWare:           13
Winfract:               13
Fractal Domains:        12
Fractal Explorer:       10
GrafZViZion:             9
BASIC programs:          8
Flarium24:               8
Photo Paint:             8
Picture Publisher:       7
Unspecified:             6
XenoLab:                 6
Inkblot Kaos:            5
Painter:                 4
Poser:                   4
POV-Ray:                 4
Quat:                    4
Zplot:                   4
Bryce:                   3
Dave's Targa Animator:   3
Elmfract:                3
EZ33:                    3
FDesign:                 3
Fractal Vision:          3
GIF Construction Set:    3
Graphics Workshop:       3
HOP:                     3
Image Composer:          3
MMFrac:                  3
Organic Art:             3
Original programs:       3
Video Wave:              3
Fractales:               2
Mathart:                 2
Movie 11:                2
XaoS:                    2
Yin Yang Fire:           2
Dofo-Zon Elite:          1
GIF Animator:            1
Iterations:              1
Piclab:                  1
Root-IFS:                1

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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 11 Sep 1999 16:25:25 -0600

Mark wrote:

> I had a minor problem.  When in evolver mode, I invoked the
> Ctrl-E command to modify things, and Fractint failed to switch
> video mode back to text 320x200.  While accessing both the
> first and F6 screens, all text was written over the prior image.
> I had to quit and restart to clear the bug.  I was not able to
> reproduce the problem.

If you ever do reproduce the problem, let us know the exact steps.
If anyone else sees something similar, see if you can consistently
get the problem with a simplke series of steps, and if so, let us
know.

Tim


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From: cindy mitchell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest 99 Category Breakdown (and other stats)
Date: 11 Sep 1999 14:45:25 -0700


Hi Damien,
I wish I had known Organic Art counted.
No need to respond as you have plenty
to do with the contest.

   Cindy
>Software
>--------
>Organic Art:             3


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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents...
Date: 11 Sep 1999 16:50:55 -0500

David,

 - There is no question now. Should I obtain the time, all images will be
 - converted into .jpg format - until royalties become required for them
 - also.

JPEG was developed as an international standard, and the official spec does
refer to a number of patents. The baseline compression that almost
everything uses (everything that I know of) relies on the freely-usable
Huffman compression; the slightly more efficient arithmetic coding is
covered by patents belonging to IBM, AT&T, and Mitsubishi, so nobody uses
it, little software implements it, and it gets largely ignored.

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                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) V.20 early par
Date: 11 Sep 1999 18:16:34 -0400

David,

Nice image...now try this...with the image displayed, notice the "ring"
whose inside edge forms a complete oval, and whose outside edge extend
slightly outside the image on all four sides. Hit <+> to start color
cycling and speed it up until a color band in that ring I described makes=

about one complete revolution (should be clockwise) per four seconds or s=
o.

Now, stand back from your monitor about five feet or so, and stare at the=

very center of the image for as long as you can <g>.

Then shift your gaze directly down to your keyboard.

Whoooaaahhh!!

Bill

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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Xfractint problems
Date: 11 Sep 1999 17:43:05 -0600

<FontFamily><param>Times New Roman</param>Can anyone make sense of these error messages? The latest Xfractint
compiles perfectly for me under virtually the same environment as that of
this user (Red Hat Linux 5.2)


Tim


Well, compiling of the newest xfractint (tw04.zip) was going along

smoothly until it hit 'loadfile.c'. Then I got the following error

messages:


gcc -I. -DXFRACT -DNOBSTRING   -g -DBIG_ANSI_C -DLINUX    -c
loadfile.c -o

loadfile.o loadfile.c: In function `fgetwindow': loadfile.c:1328: `EACCES'

undeclared (first use this function) loadfile.c:1328: (Each undeclared

identifier is reported only once loadfile.c:1328: for each function it

appears in.) make: *** [loadfile.o] Error 1




I'm not a C/C++ programmer, but I thought I'd look thru the file anyway

and see if I could figure out how to fix the problem. Anyway, I added the

line: "EACCES = 0;" near the top of the file, and typed "make xfractint"

again. This time when gcc encountered that line, I got the following

message:


loadfile.c:40: warning: data definition has no type or storage class


(I later learned while looking thru fractint.c that I should have put

"int" in front of that declaration line.)


The compiler then continued on until I got:


gcc -I. -DXFRACT -DNOBSTRING   -g -DBIG_ANSI_C -DLINUX    -c
prompts1.c -o

prompts1.o In file included from /usr/include/local_lim.h:21,

                 from /usr/include/posix1_lim.h:92,

                 from /usr/include/dirent.h:153,

                 from /usr/include/sys/dir.h:24,

                 from prompts1.c:12:

/usr/include/linux/limits.h:52: No include path in which to find limits.h

make: *** [prompts1.o] Error 1


I have "limits.h" in:  /usr/include/ , /usr/include/linux/  and

/usr/include/sys/ and I *still* get the same error message.

Line 52 in limits.h reads: " #include_next <<limits.h>" I have changed it

to: <<linux/limits.h> , <<include/limits.h> , <<usr/include/limits.h> , and

*still* get the same error message! I'm not sure where I should define the

include path... In Makefile perhaps? If so - how? (In other words - what's

the correct syntax to use?



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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 11 Sep 1999 19:36:58 -0400

I see you have textsafe=3Dno. Have you tried any of the other textsafe
options? textsafe=3Dsave seems to work for lots of people.

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Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 12 Sep 1999 1:04 0000


Hi Mark,

>
>I had a minor problem.  When in evolver mode, I invoked the
>Ctrl-E command to modify things, and Fractint failed to switch
>video mode back to text 320x200.

Hmmm, strange one... Like Tim says, see if it happens again and if
you can pin down the circumstances then pop a report onto the buglist
page for us to chew over.

>Also, an observation/request/complaint (choose one):
>it would seem to be more natural to use the p(n) data for the
>current image in x/y mode,

Good idea! I'll see what I can do, there are a few glitches around that
area that seem to have slipped through as I was concenrating on the
random evolving side of things. Thanks for the feedback, it's interface
details like this that I'm looking for to improve the way people interact
with the evolver/explorer.

>Other than that, I am enjoying the heck out of my new toy!
>

Glad to hear it :-D

Cheers,
         Robin.


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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents...
Date: 11 Sep 1999 21:12:52 -0400

Damien,

>JPEG was developed (snipped)

There is png; I just posted that "early fractint par" as a png on abpf...


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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) V.20 early par
Date: 11 Sep 1999 21:15:49 -0400

At 06:16 PM 9/11/1999 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Bill,

(snipped - and thank you)

>Now, stand back from your monitor about five feet or so, and stare at the
>very center of the image for as long as you can <g>.
>
>Then shift your gaze directly down to your keyboard.
>
>Whoooaaahhh!!

Er, ummmmmm, don't rightly know if I want to do that...  :)


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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 11 Sep 1999 21:07:14 -0600

Robin wrote:

> Hmmm, strange one... Like Tim says, see if it happens again and if
> you can pin down the circumstances then pop a report onto the buglist
> page for us to chew over.

The buglist, is, of course:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm

Looking at it I just realized that Fractint 20.0 can out on the
infamous 9/9/99 date :-)

I have made minor changes to the file that contains Xfractint. It now
matches version 20.0.

The file is at:

ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/xfract310.zip

Tim


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From: "Scott D. Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: Xfractint
Date: 11 Sep 1999 23:52:57 -0500

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Tim wrote:
>=20
> I have made minor changes to the file that contains Xfractint. It now=20
> matches version 20.0.
>=20
> The file is at:
>=20
> ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/xfract310.zip
>=20

That should be:
ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/xfrac310.zip
(No "t" in the filename.)

I'm downloading it now and I'll see how it compiles...

Scott
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From: jerome schatten <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 11 Sep 1999 22:05:24 -0700

Tim... couldn't find the file at that location (the xfractint one, that
is). Is the filename correct at the bottem of your message?
Best regards,
jerome

Tim Wegner wrote:
>
> Robin wrote:
>
> > Hmmm, strange one... Like Tim says, see if it happens again and if
> > you can pin down the circumstances then pop a report onto the buglist
> > page for us to chew over.
>
> The buglist, is, of course:
>
> http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm
>
> Looking at it I just realized that Fractint 20.0 can out on the
> infamous 9/9/99 date :-)
>
> I have made minor changes to the file that contains Xfractint. It now
> matches version 20.0.
>
> The file is at:
>
> ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/xfract310.zip
>
> Tim
>
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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents...
Date: 12 Sep 1999 11:14:16 -0500

davides wrote:
>
> .... I was giving serious consideration to putting up a
> web site as I have threatened to do for some time.  And as
> part of the site, I would of course have probably put up a
> fractal "gallery" (stop rolling on the floor laughing!)
>

I for one look forward to your website, and especially the Gallery !!
Hope this endeavor goes well for you, and soon (for all of your Fans out
here).


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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 12 Sep 1999 11:28:49 -0700

At 12:44 PM 9/11/99 -0700, I wrote:
>...
>it would seem to be more natural to use the p(n) data for the
>current image in x/y mode, rather than require the user to
>manually enter the lower left corner data.

Robin,

After further analysis, this would only be practical if everyone
used it the same way I do, one paramater pair (i.e. p1(real) = x,
p1(imag) = y) at a time. I have some additional thoughts which
I will relay privately; I just wanted to get this part out to the list
to publically admit I was being a bit myopic 8-)


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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 12 Sep 1999 13:37:43 -0600

<underline><color><param>0000,8000,0000</param>Jerome asked:


</underline></color>>... couldn't find the file at that location (the xfractint one ...


As Scott pointed out, I mispelled the filename, which I shortened to
fit the DOS 8-3 naming convention. The correct link is:


ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/xfrac310.zip


Tim



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From: Ken Childress <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents...
Date: 12 Sep 1999 13:32:59 -0700


Thanks for the info Paul.

>--- Fork it over ---
>Unisys now says that it wants a $5,000 license from anyone running a Web
>site that contains GIF files made by unlicensed creation software.

Sounds like it is time to abandon GIF wherever possible.



Ken...



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From: [e-mail] (Dr I D Entwistle)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents...
Date: 12 Sep 1999 22:35:34 +0100

On Sun 12 Sep 1999 (13:32:59), [e-mail] wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Paul.
>
> >--- Fork it over ---
> >Unisys now says that it wants a $5,000 license from anyone running a
> Web
> >site that contains GIF files made by unlicensed creation software.
>
> Sounds like it is time to abandon GIF wherever possible.
  If you use an application to generate them dated pre 1994 then you are free
of any charges .I was assured some time ago that the Unysis LZW patent does not cover
GIF images made outside the USA. My  GIF images are generated with software
written and sold in the UK.
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Subject: (fractint) JavaQuat 1.6 Quaternion Fractal Maker
Date: 12 Sep 1999 18:09:00 -0400

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<H1 ALIGN=CENTER><A NAME="TOP"></A><FONT COLOR="#F6611B">JavaQuat 1.6</FONT></H1>

<P>This is version 1.6 - 12/22/97 <BR>
<A HREF="#INSTRUCTIONS">Instructions here.</A> Take a look while the applet
downloads.</P>

<P>Java implementations are getting better all the time, but if you have
trouble the first thing I'd suggest is that you update your browser to
Netscape 4.0 or later. You can
<a href="http://www.netscape.com/comprod/mirror/client_download.html">download</A>
it free for an indefinitely long
trial period for private use, which effectively means you can have it free,
period.
Click <A HREF="java-eval.html">here</A> for more information on browsers and JavaQuat.</P>

<P><APPLET CODE="Fractal4dApplet.class"
        WIDTH=920 HEIGHT=660>There
would be an applet here if your browser supported Java. Try downloading
<A HREF="http://www.netscape.com/">Netscape Navigator 4.0</A> ,<A HREF="../macintosh.html#BROWSERS">Internet
Explorer, or HotJava</A> all of which support Java applets. </APPLET></P>

<H1><A NAME="INSTRUCTIONS"></A><B>INSTRUCTIONS</B></H1>

<H2><A NAME="OUTLINE"></A>Outline of Topics Below</H2>

<OL type="I">
  <li><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#QUICK"> Quick Start</A>
  <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#DETAILS">All the Controls in Detail</A> </LI>
  <OL type="A">
    <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#DRAW_BUTTONS">Drawing Area Buttons </A></LI>
    <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#DRAW_MOUSE">Drawing Areas and the Mouse </A></LI>
    <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#SAVE">Saving your picture </A></LI>
    <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#ARGS">Argument Meanings </A></LI>
    <OL type="i">
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#CENTER">Center R, i, j, and k</A> </LI>
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#TIMES">Qo times R, i, j, and k</A> </LI>
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#PLUS">Qo plus R, i, j, and k </A></LI>
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#VSIZE">View Size </A></LI>
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#PSIZE">Picture Size </A></LI>
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#POWER_ARG">Power </A></LI>
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#DEPTH">Sequence Depth </A></LI>
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#VAXIS">Vertical Axis </A></LI>
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#HAXIS">Horiz Axis </A></LI>
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#PANELS">Panels </A></LI>
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      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#SET_V_AXIS">Set V-axis </A></LI>
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#SWAP">Swap H & V Axes </A></LI>
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#FIDELITY">Fidelity </A></LI>
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#POWER_BUTTON">Power </A> and
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      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#FILE">File I/O</A> </LI>
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        <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#WRITE">Writing</A> </LI>
        <OL type="1">
          <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#ARGS">Saving Arguments</A> </LI>
          <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#LOGGING">Logging Arguments</A> </LI>
          <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#GIF">Saving a Picture</A> </LI>
        </OL>
        <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#READ">Reading Arguments</A> </LI>
        <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#ZOOM">Creating a Zoom Sequence</A> </LI>
        <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#PANELS">Creating Large Images - Panels</A> </LI>
      </OL>
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#AUTO">Auto Advance </A></LI>
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#CEDIT">Edit Color Map </A></LI>
      <OL type="a">
        <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#CEDIT">Color Map Display</A> </LI>
        <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#COLOR_BUTONS">The Color Map Editor Buttons</A>
      </OL>
      <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#SCANON">Scan on ....</A></LI>
    </OL>
  </OL>
  <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#LEGAL">Legal</A> </LI>
  <LI><A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#BUGS">Bugs and Problems</A> </LI>
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<H2><A NAME="QUICK"></A>Quick Start</H2>

<P><B>What you should see when JavaQuat start</B> is a blue area on the
left and a green or gray area on the right. The blue area is where you
can control the picture you are going to draw. I call it the blue argument
entry area. The numbers and button settings for a given fractal will be
refered to as the fractal's <B>arguments</B>. On the right are four (4)
drawing areas (2 by 2). Each drawing area has three (3) buttons at the
bottom. </P>

<P>Each drawing area comes with a set of arguments pre-loaded. If you click
on the "Show Args." button of a drawing area the values for the
pre-loaded picture, or the last picture that was drawn on it, will be displayed
in the blue argument area. If you then click on a draw button the picture
described in the blue area will be drawn. <B>To see all the pre-loaded
fractals, </B>go to each drawing area, click on the "Show Args."
button and then on the "Draw" button. </P>

<P>If you see something in one of the pictures that you would like to enlarge,
drag the mouse across the area you want enlarged. A square box will be
drawn where you dragged the mouse to show the section of the current picture
that will be enlarged if you proceed to click on any draw buton. The values
in the blue arguments area will change to indicate the new center and new
"View Size". </P>

<P>If you want to change the size of the picture change the value in the
"Picture Size" box, just above right center in the blue argument
entry area. Values between 9 and 301 should be possible, though the upper
limit may depend on your browser. If you want an even bigger picture, click
on the button that says "1 Big Canvas". "Picture Size"
can then be set as high as 609 on some browsers. </P>

<P><B>NOTE:</B> If you are using Netscape on a Mac you will have various
things go blank frequently. If you just slightly adjust the size of the
Netscape window the picture and arguments will be restored, at least for
a while. If you are using any browser on any platform you will experience
some minor problems. I am not aware of any bug that appears in more than
one browser - platform combination or applet viewer - platform combination.
That indicates to me that the problem is not with my Java code. But, of
course, no code of even moderate size is ever bug free, so if you think
I've goofed up (1) try another browser and see if the problem persists
and (2) if it does, send me email at <A HREF="mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>
and tell me what's wrong. </P>

<P><BR>
(Go to: <A HREF="JavaQuatDoc.html#OUTLINE">Outline of Topics</A>,
 <A HREF="#TOP">Top of Page</A>) </P>

<H2><A NAME="LEGAL"></A>Legal</H2>

<P>This Java page and the associated software comes without any statement,
expressed, implied, or otherwise, of it's suitability for any use. The
user assumes all risk for use of this software. </P>

<H2>Other</H2>

<P>This software is freeware. If you like it let me know, if you have the
time. I'd appreciate an email to <A HREF="mailto:[e-mail]">[e-mail]</A>.
</P>

<P>Go to <A HREF="#OUTLINE">Outline of Topics</A>, <A HREF="#TOP">TOP of
page </A>to draw your own, <A HREF="../fractal-top.html">Fractal Page</A>
to see some I've drawn and various links, or <A HREF="../index.html">Home
Page</A>. </P>

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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents...
Date: 12 Sep 1999 17:12:41 -0600

> Sounds like it is time to abandon GIF wherever possible.

I'd like to keep any further discussion of the Unisys topic related to
Fractal software.

I am a member of the PNG team (albeit a minor one). My position
is that I would like to get out from under GIF and use PNG for
Fractint. This would have the bonus that Truecolor is handled by
PNG, so we wouldn't need another format for truecolor. We would
have to finally design the PNG chunk I have reserved for fractal
information, and supply conversion software for old GIFs that would
translate the fractal information stored in the GIF.

The only reason that we haven't done this is that libpng code for
handling PNG needs a lot more resources than GIF.  This is a non-
issue for most software, but a serious problem for the DOS Fractint
which uses a memory model that limits the dotal near data to 64K.
(It took me half a day to add rough PNG saving to Xfractint.) I have
though of ways around this for the DOS version, but decided a long
time ago that it would be a waste of time, since all the effort would
be moot when Fractint is finally ported out of DOS. I'm just
embarressed this has taken so long - the development team has
been operating less intensely for quite a while.

Meanwhile, there are tools available that allow you to convert your
Fractint images to PNG for posting on Web sites. These can be
viewed with any up to date version of IE or Netscape.

Tim


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Subject: RE: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0
Date: 13 Sep 1999 0:17 0000

Hi Bud,

>After further analysis, this would only be practical if everyone
>used it the same way I do, one paramater pair (i.e. p1(real) = x,

It's still a good idea for maybe an Fkey in the evolver control menu,
it'd take away a lot of hassle for those who want to explore the
parameter space around an image they've found by other means.
Also in the absence of any four dimensional hyperVGA displays so
far it makes a lot of sense to just explore two parameters at a time :-)

Cheers,
         Robin.



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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Type=test is broken
Date: 12 Sep 1999 20:08:41 -0600

This is hardly a show stopper, but type=test is broken in version
20.0. The fix is to comment out the declaration of thelocal  variable
"col" in test() in miscfrac.c, which in effect makes the routine use
the global version.

It's a rule of good software engineering to avoid global variables. We
have violated this a fair bit ... :-)

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From: BILL RAY <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver
Date: 12 Sep 1999 23:01:02 -0400

I have downloaded and installed Fractint 20, which is great.  However, I
have not been able to use Evolver.  When I invoke the zoom function the
rectangle can only move halfway vertically, horizontally or left or
right - the mouse seems frozen.  Is there a parameter or command I can
put into sstools.ini to make the Evolver function work or is there a
command-line fix.  So far the  Sound function doesn't  work either,
although I do get a 'beep' after a fractal is finished loading, so the
sound card seems to be functioning.

I run Fractint20 under DOS on a 200mhz Pentium with 64megs of ram and
2megs of video ram.  I have changed video modes and that does not help.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.


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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver
Date: 12 Sep 1999 20:24:15 -0700

At 11:01 PM 9/12/99 -0400, you wrote:
>... I
>have not been able to use Evolver.  When I invoke the zoom function the
>rectangle can only move halfway vertically, horizontally or left or
>right - the mouse seems frozen.

Bill:

To select another image, you have to press Ctrl while
pressing the arrow keys.  I have been glued to this new
feature to the extent that I'm clueless to whatever else
is new!

Examples coming in the near future...


Bud

P.S.: any rumors on the FA'99 contest unveiling? ( ;;-) nudge nudge)


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From: "David Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents...
Date: 12 Sep 1999 20:40:33 -1000

On 12 Sep 99 at 17:12, Tim Wegner wrote:

> Meanwhile, there are tools available that allow you to
> convert your Fractint images to PNG for posting on Web
> sites. These can be viewed with any up to date version
> of IE or Netscape.

And here we go again! Welcome to a Windows only world!

Of course, when PNG is actually standardized enough to
work right, it's a good replacement for GIF. But I've
been to too many sites where the PNGs won't display in
such up-to-date browser versions as Netscape Communicator
4.61.

Personally, I expect that when Unisys tries to enforce
their patent on GIF, they'll be blown out of the water by
the first contestant who walks in with an attorney and
points out that they have been essentially refusing to
enforce it for so long now that they have basically said
people can use it for free.

Hmmmpph.

David
May only friendly green things find your doorstep!

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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Popcorn inconsistency
Date: 13 Sep 1999 17:58:44 +1200

I hesitate to call this a bug, maybe more of a miswart.

When using the evolver on the Popcorn type, the spawned variants are not
clipped to fit their boxes, spilling out instead to overlap each other. On
a hunch, I looked at a popcorn fractal through a <V>iewwindow, and saw the
same nonclipping there. It's noticeable only because other dynamic-like
types (dynamic, mandelcloud, latoocarfian, bifurcation etc.) don't do this.

I've just checked an old version 18.2 which I recalled I had knocking
around; the same thing happens there. As no-one has apparently noticed it
before (or at least considered it worth reporting), it's clearly something
that is of _very_ minor importance - only the evolver makes it readily
apparent.

Morgan
"And when are we going to run user formulae as dynamic orbits?"



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From: "David Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fr20: Problem with DiskVideo?
Date: 12 Sep 1999 22:43:17 -1000

Using Fractint 20. Just generated what was supposed to be
a 2048x1536x256 color image using DiskVideo. (The Evolver
is fun, even at 640x480!)

After the image completed, I saved it using the "S"
option, and opened the image in CorelPhotoPaint 7 so I
could see it. (Fractint 20 still doesn't support my Elsa
GLoria Synergy for better than 640x480x256. Even tried
Makefcfg on it - gives me 640x400x256 or 640x480x256.)

PhotoPaint reports an image size of 1000x750 pixels. I'm
running it under W95 on a system with 128MB RAM. Even
after I kicked the expanded and extended memory settings
up to 16MB, it won't produce an image larger than that.
Why can't I get my big image?

Another blast of bits from David
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For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast:
    http://www.surfreporthawaii.com

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest 99
Date: 13 Sep 1999 09:04:14 -0500

Bud,

 - P.S.: any rumors on the FA'99 contest unveiling? ( ;;-) nudge nudge)

Yes, rumor has it that the entry database is fully verified and 1200+ web
pages have been built, what remains are the voting forms which I'm not
going to be able to work on until this evening.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  Fractalus Galleries & Info:
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or
in a newsgroup.  Thank you.

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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fr20: Problem with DiskVideo?
Date: 13 Sep 1999 10:21:19 -0400

David,

Sorry, there must be something strange about either your system or your
viewer- or possibly you were attempting to view the wrong image?

I just ran the basic mandelbrot in diskvideo 2048x1536x256 and viewed it
with CPIC as well as photoshop, and it displayed fine and at the correct
size.

I have done diskvideo sizes to 16,000x12,000x256 in ver. 20 with no
problems.

Try again?

Bill

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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver
Date: 13 Sep 1999 10:21:18 -0400

Bill,

 << So far the  Sound function doesn't  work either, although I do get a
 <<'beep' after a fractal is finished loading, so the sound card seems to=

be
 <<functioning.

The beep you hear is most likely coming from your PC speaker, and not you=
r
sound card. This is the default behavior.

Before going any further, have you run the sound demo? Run demo.bat, and
choose the version 20 sound demo, and let me know what happens. Also, are=

you running any version of Windows?

Bill

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From: BILL RAY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver
Date: 13 Sep 1999 11:11:17 -0400

Thanks, I ran the demo and the visual portion worked fine - but no sound until
the point at which BOTH the pc internal speaker and sound card were turned
on.  Then I heard those anemic beeps - so you were right, it was the internal
speaker.  I am running Windows 95 but boot up to DOS for Fractint since
Fractint (versions 19.3, 19.6, 20.0) does not work under Windows on my
machine.  I did run a music CD after the demo and it worked fine, so the sound
card is functioning.  I have a 200mhz Pentium with 64megs Ram and 2 megs Video
ram.
I guess the sound function just cannot work on my system.  Thanks again for
your suggestion.

Bill Ray

Bill Jemison wrote:

> Bill,
>
>  << So far the  Sound function doesn't  work either, although I do get a
>  <<'beep' after a fractal is finished loading, so the sound card seems to
> be
>  <<functioning.
>
> The beep you hear is most likely coming from your PC speaker, and not your
> sound card. This is the default behavior.
>
> Before going any further, have you run the sound demo? Run demo.bat, and
> choose the version 20 sound demo, and let me know what happens. Also, are
> you running any version of Windows?
>
> Bill
>
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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver
Date: 13 Sep 1999 12:33:08 -0400

Bill,

when you ran the CD (which played) were you in W95? It sounds <g> like yo=
ur
DOS drivers for your sound card might not be loaded.

You can try to run Fractint through W95 and use a diskvideo mode - which
allows sound as well. Could you try that? after starting Fractint, ask fo=
r
a diskvideo mode, and <@> <F6> and load the frac200.par, which contains
several sound pars...some use both the PC speaker and the soundcard, othe=
rs
only the soundcard.

What is your soundcard, and, if you know, what synth chip does it have?
Most soundblaster compatibles have the OPL-3 synth chip, which is what th=
e
sound features in Fractint are written for. With other synths, YMMV.

Bill

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver
Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:25 0000

Hi Bill,

>when you ran the CD (which played) were you in W95? It sounds <g>
>like your
>DOS drivers for your sound card might not be loaded.

Then again if there are no drivers loaded then fractint *should* give an
error message rather than just staying silent.
To see for sure just type 'set' from your dos prompt and see if resulting
techno-babble includes the line:
BLASTER= Axxx Ix
and so on where xxx are numbers.

If you see this then the most likely problem is one of your sound card's
mixer settings, look through the documentation for the name of the
program you need to run in order to control the mix of the various
sources within your card (i.e. cd, wave, synth, auxilliary etc) it may
simply be that the FM output is turned down.
If it's not that then tell me what you get on the BLASTER= line
above.


>You can try to run Fractint through W95 and use a diskvideo mode -
That's a very good diagnostic idea! try it as Bill says, if it works then
there are other tips for getting fractint running under W95 about.
It works fine under win95 for me (I have a matrox video card).

Good luck!
             Robin.


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From: "Ricardo M. Forno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Bug in the evolver
Date: 13 Sep 1999 16:00:33 -0300

Tim:
I got the following problem with the evolver.
I started with 2 to select a par. Notice that the par used fn*z+z fractal
type.
Then I entered the evolver by means of Alt-5. Once the thumbnails where
displayed, I typed Ctrl-E to change "yes" to "no" in order to see the image,
without having moved to some other thumbnail.
The image was totally changed, but when typing z, the parameters strangely
were the same as the initial ones!
Please note that this behavior seems not to occur with the standard
Mandelbrot.
Anyhow, I am completey fascinated with this feature!


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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents...
Date: 13 Sep 1999 14:06:07 -0600


In article <[e-mail]>,
    "David Jones" <[e-mail]>  writes:

> Of course, when PNG is actually standardized enough to
> work right, it's a good replacement for GIF.

PNG has been standardized for a long time now.  Any problems you're
experiencing have nothing to do with the 'standardization of PNG'.

> But I've
> been to too many sites where the PNGs won't display in
> such up-to-date browser versions as Netscape Communicator
> 4.61.

Either people are writing home-brew PNG files (which is not to imply
that PNG isn't standard, but perhaps that programs out there are
generating non-standard PNGs) or the browser software hasn't been
written to accomodate standard PNGs.
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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver
Date: 13 Sep 1999 16:17:19 -0400

Hi Robin,

Sorry. I didn't realize that you had built in the error message! That's
nice to know.

FWIW, one of the reasons that I like to use diskvideo mode for playing
music pars is that since diskvideo will run in a window, it gives me acce=
ss
to the windows desktop for adjustments to the mixer controls, FX, etc.
while listening to the par and the effects of the various controls, etc. =
on
the sound. Real-time sound manipulation has to be done this way afik.

Bill

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From: "Marie Drozdis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Version 20
Date: 13 Sep 1999 14:19:50 -0700

I finally have a day to unzip my new version and put it through its paces.

Thanks, all who worked on it.  Reading the messages posted here has
increased the anticipation and even renewed the interest (or should I say
obsession?) I have with my fractals.

I hope there's an increase in pars posted.

Now.. to the Evolver<G>

Marie Drozdis


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Subject: (fractint) RE: Bug in the evolver
Date: 13 Sep 1999 23:08 0000


Hi Ricardo,

>Once the thumbnails where displayed, I typed Ctrl-E to change "yes"
>to "no" in order to see the image,

BTW, 'b' works as a shortcut for this whilst in the evolver.

>without having moved to some other thumbnail.
Hmmmm.. does the same happen if you move to another and then back
again?

>The image was totally changed, but when typing z, the parameters
>strangely were the same as the initial ones!

Now that is very bizzare, though you should also check the x screen to
see
that some radically different inside or outside colouring method hasn't
been selected.

If you can make this happen consistantly then it would help me sort
things out if you could mail me a par for the starting image or if you
hit S just after the first set of images is generated and then mail me
the file that was saved.

Cheers,
         Robin.


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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Version 20
Date: 13 Sep 1999 20:14:08 -0400

Re: Fractint 20 and the evolver, I have only one thing to say:
"Whooooweeee!!!!!!!!!!"




[e-mail]
[e-mail]
Back up my hard drive?
How do I put it in reverse?

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) Fractint Book?
Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:22:01 EDT

To whom it may concern,

    Does anyone plan on putting out a new book with the new version of
Fractint? Last time I checked the last Fractint book was out of date.

Regards,
Ryan

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From: "Wayne Kiely" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) V.20
Date: 14 Sep 1999 11:02:32 +0930

Hi all.

Haven't had a chance to download the new version yet but...

   many thanks to those who have doubtless spent many hours for the rest of us
to enjoy.
   It is much appreciated.

Regards,

Wayne


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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book?
Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:37:08 -0600

Ryan asked:

>     Does anyone plan on putting out a new book with the new version of
> Fractint? Last time I checked the last Fractint book was out of date.

The nature of the book market at present makes a Fractint book
project infeasible. If Fractint were an up-to-date Win98/Win2000
package with lots of Web features built in, so that the book could
tie into the latest hot stuff, it might be marginally feasible.

A topic that might sell would be "Web Windows 2000 Fractals For
Dummies and Idiots"

Noooo thanks! If you doubt me, I *do* speak with some experience
as an author of five books :-) Not that "past performance is any
indicator of future results".

You are right that the fractint books are out of date, although
Fractal Creations 2nd Edition is still a very nice book for Fractint
users if you can get your hands on it.

Tim


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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Popcorn inconsistency
Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:37:08 -0600

Morgan wrote:

> I hesitate to call this a bug, maybe more of a miswart.
>
> When using the evolver on the Popcorn type, the spawned variants are not
> clipped to fit their boxes


Someone else mentioned this. The popocorn type is absolutely
unique in the way it works, and the folks who worked on it (Robin
Bussell and Jonathan Osuch get the credit) understandably didn't
think to check popcorn. My guess is that this is very easy to fix.
We'll look into it.

Tim


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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents...
Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:37:07 -0600

David wrote:

> > Meanwhile, there are tools available that allow you to
> > convert your Fractint images to PNG for posting on Web
> > sites. These can be viewed with any up to date version
> > of IE or Netscape.
>
> And here we go again! Welcome to a Windows only world!

Duhhh ... where did I use the word "Windows?" PNG tools are
available for all platforms.


> Of course, when PNG is actually standardized enough to
> work right, it's a good replacement for GIF. But I've
> been to too many sites where the PNGs won't display in
> such up-to-date browser versions as Netscape Communicator
> 4.61.

The problem is that Netscape Communicator has a poor PNG
reading implementation.

Tim


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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) v20.0
Date: 13 Sep 1999 20:09:44 -0700

comment { ramblings by Mark "Bud" Christenson 9/13/99

[NOTE: This message can be saved as a text file and accessed
by Fractint v19.6 and above without modification, *but* I forgot if it
should be a par or a frm.  It has been quite a while since I posted.]

As promised, a couple of examples of what evolver can do.
Of course, you can come to the same solution without the
automated help, but for most, especially novices, this will
be a real time saver.

For reference, I used random mode (just because it's easier
than the x/y mode in its current state) on one complex parameter
at a time, with limits (typically) starting at 1 and with a slow
convergence factor of 0.9 (1.0 if I wasn't ready to converge yet).

Here's the first pair:
}

g608-1y            { ; vaguely vaginal - (c) 10/13/98 Mark "Bud" Christenson
                     ; de g608-1p /f2
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=conj/tanh/cosxx passes=t
  center-mag=0/0/0.75/1.3333 params=3/-0.9/2/-1/0.3/0 float=y
  maxiter=300 inside=60 outside=atan decomp=142 periodicity=0
  viewwindows=2/1/yes/0/0 cyclerange=1/128 sound=off
  colors=000bgobgpagr<3>hlujnvlpw<3>tvyvwyxyzzzz<25>`C`_A_Z8Z<2>W2WV0VU0U<\
  8>L0LK0KJ0J<2>G0GF0FG1F<40>tr`us`vua<3>zzc<2>zsZzpYxpZ<3>pldmlfkkg<2>ehl\
  cgmcgnzJC<3>z85z53z32z00<51>60050040030020000000000K<19>AATBBTBBU<4>EFVE\
  GVFHV<3>HKXHKYILY<8>MQeNRfNRg<6>RXkSYlSZl<4>Xco
  }

g608-5y            { ; de gj08-1y /evol:pn- (c) 9/12/99 Mark "Bud" Christenson
                     ;
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=conj/tanh/cosxx passes=t
  center-mag=0/0/0.75/1.3333
  params=2.428948942533646/0.002276985992004183/3.717297585985901/0.730640\
  2783288064/0.3404527573473312/-0.002013992736594746 float=y
  maxiter=300 inside=60 outside=atan decomp=142 periodicity=0
  viewwindows=2/1/yes/0/0 cyclerange=1/128 sound=off
  colors=000bgobgpagr<3>hlujnvlpw<3>tvyvwyxyzzzz<25>`C`_A_Z8Z<2>W2WV0VU0U<\
  8>L0LK0KJ0J<2>G0GF0FG1F<40>tr`us`vua<3>zzc<2>zsZzpYxpZ<3>pldmlfkkg<2>ehl\
  cgmcgnzJC<3>z85z53z32z00<51>60050040030020000000000K<19>AATBBTBBU<4>EFVE\
  GVFHV<3>HKXHKYILY<8>MQeNRfNRg<6>RXkSYlSZl<4>Xco
  }

comment {

While the second image lacks the sex appeal of its parent,
it has a complex charm of its own.

Here's the second pair:
}

g608-2r            { ; de g608-1d /f3 - (c) 11/15/98 Mark "Bud" Christenson
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=ident/cotan/cabs passes=b
  center-mag=0/0/0.45/1.3333
  params=3/-2/2/-1/0.3/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=60 outside=atan
  decomp=256 periodicity=0 viewwindows=2/1/yes/0/0 cyclerange=0/255
  sound=off
  colors=LK0<14>`60a50b40c30d20e10<4>o00q00r00<3>z00<5>o00m00k00i00g00<16>\
  QFFPGGOHHNIIMJJKKK<22>fff<3>jjjlllnnn<2>sss<3>llljjjiii<19>QQQPPPOOO<2>L\
  LLKKKKKL<9>BPWAQX9QY<3>5Ta4Ub3Vc<3>1Zi1_k1am<3>0gu0iv0jx0kz<3>0er0dq0bo<\

3>0Yh0Xf1We<14>FNQGNPHMOIMNJLMKKK<15>`XLaYLbZLc_Ld`LeaLgbM<3>ohQqjRrlT<3\
  >zsX<4>qjSoiRmgQkeP<23>KK0
  }

g608-5z            { ; de g608-2r /evol:pn - (c) 9/12/99 Mark "Bud" Christenson
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=ident/cotan/cabs passes=b
  center-mag=0/0/0.45/1.3333
  params=1.8/-1.02/3.46/-0.41/0.113/0.129 float=y maxiter=300
  inside=60 outside=atan decomp=256 periodicity=0
  viewwindows=2/1/yes/0/0 cyclerange=0/255 sound=off
  colors=LK0<14>`60a50b40c30d20e10<4>o00q00r00<3>z00<5>o00m00k00i00g00<16>\
  QFFPGGOHHNIIMJJKKK<22>fff<3>jjjlllnnn<2>sss<3>llljjjiii<19>QQQPPPOOO<2>L\
  LLKKKKKL<9>BPWAQX9QY<3>5Ta4Ub3Vc<3>1Zi1_k1am<3>0gu0iv0jx0kz<3>0er0dq0bo<\

3>0Yh0Xf1We<14>FNQGNPHMOIMNJLMKKK<15>`XLaYLbZLc_Ld`LeaLgbM<3>ohQqjRrlT<3\
  >zsX<4>qjSoiRmgQkeP<23>KK0
  }

comment {

Admittedly, the initial image in the second case is a rather
bland item I came across while flipping through functions
looking for promising candidate Gallet-6-08 types; but the
Evolver can take you from one interesting case to another
as well.

Navigating the possibilities is a bit slower than
sitting at the console brute-forcing my way through, but
the advantage is that you can do other things while Fractint
does the work.  I did both of these in 30-40 minutes, making
selections between bites at dinner (something only a bachelor
or someone with a very understanding or similarly addicted
mate can get away with), watching the idiot box, folding
laundry, etc.

Finally, in case you have comitted the unforgivable sin of
not having this wonderful frm in your posession, here it is:
}

frm:Gallet-6-08 { ; Sylvie Gallet, 1996
z = pixel , x = real(z) , y = imag(z) :
x1 = x - p1*fn1(y + fn2(p2*x) / fn3(p3*y))
y1 = y - p1*fn1(x + fn2(p2*y) / fn3(p3*x))
x = x1 , y = y1
z = x + flip(y)
|z| <= 1024
}


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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) v20.0
Date: 13 Sep 1999 20:15:21 -0700

At 08:09 PM 9/13/99 -0700, I wrote:

>...
>I did both of these in 30-40 minutes,
>...

It should have read:

>...
>I did *each* of these in 30-40 minutes,
>...

I'll be damned if I can figure out why I find these things
*after* proofreading rather than during...


Aloha, Bud


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From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book?
Date: 13 Sep 1999 20:53:32 -0700

Tim Wegner wrote:

(snip)

> You are right that the fractint books are out of date, although
> Fractal Creations 2nd Edition is still a very nice book for Fractint
> users if you can get your hands on it.
>

I think Fractal Creations is a nice book for anyone
who is interested in fractals.  I have and have read
several books on fractals and the short early chapters
gave the best description of the basics of orbits and
bailout, Mandelbrot, Julia and Newton formulas etc.
It really made some things clear that were fuzzy to me
before.  I think anyone who is new to fractals and wants
to understand it would like it even aside from the Fractint
specific parts.

Kathy Roth

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From: "Mike Traynor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book?
Date: 13 Sep 1999 23:56:16 -0400

Tim writes:

> You are right that the fractint books are out of date, although
> Fractal Creations 2nd Edition is still a very nice book for Fractint
> users if you can get your hands on it.

I can confirm that even someone who did not write the book can agree
with this.  It is especially the case, as being an awfully old computer book
by now, if you can find it it should be pretty cheap. My copy was not cheap,
but I sure don't regret the money spent.





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From: Ron Barnett <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver
Date: 13 Sep 1999 16:46:46 -0400

I am running Win98 and run Fractint in a full screen DOS window. I had to
play around a bit to get the sound card to work. The card came with some
DOS utilities which must be loaded during boot up for the card to work with
DOS programs. Wish I could save the output as a MIDI file, though. Here is
a par (first one I have submitted for Fractint in a very long time :-)).
The graphics resolution will affect the tune.

Snowflakes         {
             ; Ron Barnett, September 13, 1999
                     ; Fractint ver. 20.0
                     ; Compatible with most SB compatible cards (OPL-3
chip)
  reset=2000 type=julia passes=1
  center-mag=-0.489022/0.120603/18.72675 params=-0.9/0.7 float=y
  maxiter=2000000000 bailoutest=real viewwindows=15/0.75/yes/0/0
  hertz=10 sound=x/fm/quant polyphony=6 wavetype=4
  scalemap=1/3/5/6/8/10/12/1/3/5/8/10 orbitdelay=1500 showorbit=yes
  colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555<3>HHHKKKOO\
  O<3>ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0z0<3>0zz<2>0GzVVz<3>zVz<3>zV\
  V<3>zzV<3>VzV<3>Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zhz<3>zhh<3>zzh<3>hzh<3>hzz<2>hlz00S<3>S0\
  S<3>S00<3>SS0<3>0S0<3>0SS<2>07SEES<3>SES<3>SEE<3>SSE<3>ESE<3>ESS<2>EHSKK\
  S<2>QKSSKSSKQSKOSKMSKK<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<3>G0G<3\
  >G00<3>GG0<3>0G0<3>0GG<2>04G88G<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<2>GE8GG8EG8CG8AG88G\
  8<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<2>GFBGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<2>BGFBG\
  GBFGBDGBCG000<6>000
  }


-----Original Message-----
Sent:    Monday, September 13, 1999 11:11

Thanks, I ran the demo and the visual portion worked fine - but no sound
until
the point at which BOTH the pc internal speaker and sound card were turned
on.  Then I heard those anemic beeps - so you were right, it was the
internal
speaker.  I am running Windows 95 but boot up to DOS for Fractint since
Fractint (versions 19.3, 19.6, 20.0) does not work under Windows on my
machine.  I did run a music CD after the demo and it worked fine, so the
sound
card is functioning.  I have a 200mhz Pentium with 64megs Ram and 2 megs
Video
ram.
I guess the sound function just cannot work on my system.  Thanks again for
your suggestion.

Bill Ray

Bill Jemison wrote:

> Bill,
>
>  << So far the  Sound function doesn't  work either, although I do get a
>  <<'beep' after a fractal is finished loading, so the sound card seems to
> be
>  <<functioning.
>
> The beep you hear is most likely coming from your PC speaker, and not
your
> sound card. This is the default behavior.
>
> Before going any further, have you run the sound demo? Run demo.bat, and
> choose the version 20 sound demo, and let me know what happens. Also, are
> you running any version of Windows?
>
> Bill
>
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From: "Marie Drozdis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book?
Date: 14 Sep 1999 00:09:48 -0700

When I put out a search for the book,  after months of looking, Amazon.com
found it for me.... for $52!

One of the nice folks here learned that I was looking for a copy and when he
found one, let me know where to get it at less than the original cost.

Now that I have it, it doesn't leave my ownership<G>

Marie Drozdis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:56 PM


> Tim writes:
>
> > You are right that the fractint books are out of date, although
> > Fractal Creations 2nd Edition is still a very nice book for Fractint
> > users if you can get your hands on it.
>
> I can confirm that even someone who did not write the book can agree
> with this.  It is especially the case, as being an awfully old computer
book
> by now, if you can find it it should be pretty cheap. My copy was not
cheap,
> but I sure don't regret the money spent.
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book?
Date: 13 Sep 1999 23:20:29 -0500

Marie Drozdis wrote:
>
> When I put out a search for the book,  after months of looking, Amazon.com
> found it for me.... for $52!
>

It's too bad Tim Wegner and Bert Tyler won't reap any part of the profits from
that sale. :-D The original price for the 2nd edition of Fractal Creations was
$34.95, but I bought mine at Barnes & Noble back then for a small discount.
Still a great FractInt reference book to this day.

HAND,

Bob Margolis

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From: "William S. Morton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) w98 screw ups
Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:27:30 -0700

I run Fractint2.0 under w98. (one of these days I'll brave DOS.) If I
enter just ONE false command,
(ie. g or v on the keyboard) the program freezes. (ADK2 proccessor, 64
ram,...SF7 video mode)
HOWEVER...When this program `partially' glitches, I get a linear 3-split
view of :... 1) (upper third) 0--1--3 pattern of current fractal,
2)(mid-screen to one inch above bottom) black screen,; (and here's the
kicker, 3)(last inch of screen) a virtual blue needlepoint pattern of
the extremes of a window titlebar, with the `minimize/enlarge/close'
boxes on the left (in reversed order) , and a beautiful sewwing pattern
of the word FRACTINT on the right! I was able to hit s and save this
kodak moment. This is my background till something weirder replaces it!


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From: "William S. Morton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) v20.0
Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:33:04 -0700

You aren't the same Mark who worked in animation in LA all those years
ago, are you?
                                          Sarge Morton
Mark Christenson wrote:

> At 08:09 PM 9/13/99 -0700, I wrote:
>
> >...
> >I did both of these in 30-40 minutes,
> >...
>
> It should have read:
>
> >...
> >I did *each* of these in 30-40 minutes,
> >...
>
> I'll be damned if I can figure out why I find these things
> *after* proofreading rather than during...
>
> Aloha, Bud
>
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From: "William S. Morton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents...
Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:34:36 -0700

Is Netscape somehow connected with Unisys?

Tim Wegner wrote:

> David wrote:
>
> > > Meanwhile, there are tools available that allow you to
> > > convert your Fractint images to PNG for posting on Web
> > > sites. These can be viewed with any up to date version
> > > of IE or Netscape.
> >
> > And here we go again! Welcome to a Windows only world!
>
> Duhhh ... where did I use the word "Windows?" PNG tools are
> available for all platforms.
>
> > Of course, when PNG is actually standardized enough to
> > work right, it's a good replacement for GIF. But I've
> > been to too many sites where the PNGs won't display in
> > such up-to-date browser versions as Netscape Communicator
> > 4.61.
>
> The problem is that Netscape Communicator has a poor PNG
> reading implementation.
>
> Tim
>
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From: "William S. Morton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book?
Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:40:53 -0700

What, me worry? Are you worried that some producer in LA or some ad
accountant in NY are actually going to figure out how to write fractal
parameters? They can sell them, but they can't write them. I should know. I
work in TV, and I can't figure squat shit about them! Keep up the good
work!!!

Tim Wegner wrote:

> Ryan asked:
>
> >     Does anyone plan on putting out a new book with the new version of
> > Fractint? Last time I checked the last Fractint book was out of date.
>
> The nature of the book market at present makes a Fractint book
> project infeasible. If Fractint were an up-to-date Win98/Win2000
> package with lots of Web features built in, so that the book could
> tie into the latest hot stuff, it might be marginally feasible.
>
> A topic that might sell would be "Web Windows 2000 Fractals For
> Dummies and Idiots"
>
> Noooo thanks! If you doubt me, I *do* speak with some experience
> as an author of five books :-) Not that "past performance is any
> indicator of future results".
>
> You are right that the fractint books are out of date, although
> Fractal Creations 2nd Edition is still a very nice book for Fractint
> users if you can get your hands on it.
>
> Tim
>
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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents...
Date: 14 Sep 1999 18:02:36 +1200

At 22:35 12/09/1999 +0100, Ian wrote:
>
>  If you use an application to generate them dated pre 1994 then you are free
>of any charges .I was assured some time ago that the Unysis LZW patent
does not cover
>GIF images made outside the USA. My  GIF images are generated with software
>written and sold in the UK.
>
I'm no lawyer, thank Ralf, but as I understood the affair, Unisys was
extracting patent fees from the authors of GIF _software_, not GIF image
files.

Otherwise one could have the analogous situation of a novelist being
hounded for money by the writers of his word processing software (Microsoft
please do not take note).

Secondly, Unisys's demands are directed at the writers of for-profit GIF
software, so Fractint appears to be safe anyway.

Thirdly, PNG is the better format anyway. The fact that it can even contain
palette-based images (PNG type 3) is an added bonus that ought to encourage
a migration away from GIF.

Morgan.
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From: "David Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fr20: Problem with DiskVideo?
Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:21:44 -1000

On 13 Sep 99 at 10:21, Bill Jemison wrote:

> Sorry, there must be something strange about either your
> system

System: Original retail release W95 running on an
AMDk6-2/30 with 128MB Ram and about 10GB of disk space.
Running on an Elsa GLoria Synergy display adaptor with
8MB of VRAM. FWIW, there's aparently no VESA support
beyond 640x480x256. If only either the freeware W31
fractal program I have was more powerful, or UltraFractal
was free ...

> or your viewer

Same viewer(s) that I've used for years - CorelPhotoPaint
7. I haven't checked them in PaintShop Pro or PMView, but
I've never encountered the problem with images from
Fractint 19.6 at up to 2048x2048x256.

> or possibly you were attempting to view the wrong
> image?

Well, I tried it with six different images. Every single
one came out that way.

> I just ran the basic mandelbrot in diskvideo
> 2048x1536x256 and viewed it with CPIC as well as
> photoshop, and it displayed fine and at the correct
> size.

Well, mine displayed, but it was not the 2048x1536x256
that I specified in Fractint 20. My system is set to a
1024x768 desktop, and the image (displayed full screen at
1:1 size) was smaller than both dimensions).

> I have done diskvideo sizes to 16,000x12,000x256 in ver.
> 20 with no problems.

Really???? Sounds like something to play with! That's,
what, a file size of 6,144,000,000 bytes? ;-)

> Try again?

Sure. I do like the Evolver. That is really cool!

Just tried it now using the basic Mandelbrot. It worked.
Now lets try some other things ... And now it's working.
Don't ask me!

The only thing I remember changing was kicking both EMS
and XMS settings up to 16384KB, but either one is far
larger than what the image would need ...

Anyway, thanks to Tim and the Stone Soup Group for adding
more fun things to play with! Hurrah!

Another blast of bits from David
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/aliasjj/   http://www.hawastsoc.org/
For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast:
    http://www.surfreporthawaii.com

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From: "David Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) w98 screw ups
Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:21:44 -1000

Ummm, try setting "textsave=text" wherever it's supposed
to be set - sorry, I don't remember. THat might fix it.

Then again, it might not. On our old Diamond Stealth 64
Series 2000, all Fractint and W9x did was freeze the
system. (Fortunately, it works fine under OS/2.) The
problem didn't disappear until we replaced the display
adaptor.

On 13 Sep 99 at 21:27, William S. Morton wrote:

> I run Fractint2.0 under w98. (one of these days I'll
> brave DOS.) If I enter just ONE false command, (ie. g or
> v on the keyboard) the program freezes. (ADK2
> proccessor, 64 ram,...SF7 video mode) HOWEVER...When
> this program `partially' glitches, I get a linear
> 3-split view of :... 1) (upper third) 0--1--3 pattern of
> current fractal, 2)(mid-screen to one inch above bottom)
> black screen,; (and here's the kicker, 3)(last inch of
> screen) a virtual blue needlepoint pattern of the
> extremes of a window titlebar, with the
> `minimize/enlarge/close' boxes on the left (in reversed
> order) , and a beautiful sewwing pattern of the word
> FRACTINT on the right! I was able to hit s and save this
> kodak moment. This is my background till something
> weirder replaces it!

Another blast of bits from David
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/aliasjj/   http://www.hawastsoc.org/
For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast:
    http://www.surfreporthawaii.com

Random Thought for this Nanosecond
Needling him, the seamstress said, 'Ahem.' (D.Jones)



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From: "Terry Erickson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint)  hey
Date: 14 Sep 1999 01:21:57 -0700

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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) w98 screw ups
Date: 14 Sep 1999 05:06:52 -0400

At 09:21 PM 9/13/1999 -1000, you wrote:
>Ummm, try setting "textsave=text" wherever it's supposed
>to be set - sorry, I don't remember. THat might fix it.

sstools.ini


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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fr20: Problem with DiskVideo?
Date: 14 Sep 1999 10:25:59 -0400

 <<> I have done diskvideo sizes to 16,000x12,000x256 in ver.
 <<> 20 with no problems.

 <<Really???? Sounds like something to play with! That's,
 <<what, a file size of 6,144,000,000 bytes? ;-)

Right around 5.5gig.

Bill

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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fr20: Problem with DiskVideo?
Date: 14 Sep 1999 11:02:03 -0400

 > <<> I have done diskvideo sizes to 16,000x12,000x256 in ver.
 ><<> 20 with no problems.

 > <<Really???? Sounds like something to play with! That's,
 > <<what, a file size of 6,144,000,000 bytes? ;-)

 > Right around 5.5gig.

OOOPS! make that 5.5 *meg*

Sorry.

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From: "Marie Drozdis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint Book?
Date: 14 Sep 1999 11:22:13 -0700

But they did, it was second-hand. The amazon.com book was second-hand, too,
and it was minus the CD. They wanted $52.  Your incorrect assumption was
understandable, though.

Anyone who was online here with me 'way back then' knew that I had given
away my original, which I purchased, with the expectation that it would be
easy for me to replace it.  NOT!

Marie :)
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Bob Margolis
Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 9:20 PM


Marie Drozdis wrote:
>
> When I put out a search for the book,  after months of looking, Amazon.com
> found it for me.... for $52!
>

It's too bad Tim Wegner and Bert Tyler won't reap any part of the profits
from
that sale. :-D The original price for the 2nd edition of Fractal Creations
was
$34.95, but I bought mine at Barnes & Noble back then for a small discount.
Still a great FractInt reference book to this day.

HAND,

Bob Margolis

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From: JoWeber <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) evolver-pars 1
Date: 14 Sep 1999 19:22:19 -0400

Hi All,

I explored the Carr-frm with the evolver. Got 120 images.
Enjoy these few. --Jo--


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;passes=3D1 needs to be used with this PHC formula.
b5=3D1/pixel,
p1x=3Dreal(p1)+1,p1y=3Dimag(p1)+1,
p2x=3Dreal(p2)+1,p2y=3Dimag(p2)+1
z=3Dwhitesq*sqr(b5)-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*conj(b5):
zx=3Dreal(z),zy=3Dimag(z),
x=3Dfn1(zx*p1x-zy*p1y)+fn2(zx*p2x-zy*p2y),
y=3Dfn3(zx*p1y+zy*p1x)+fn4(zx*p2y+zy*p2x),
z=3Dx+flip(y),
|z|<=3D20
}


frm:Carr2930{ ; Modified OK-42
;passes=3D1 needs to be used with this PHC formula.
b5=3Dpixel,
p1x=3Dreal(p1)+1,p1y=3Dimag(p1)+1,
p2x=3Dreal(p2)+1,p2y=3Dimag(p2)+1
z=3Dwhitesq*sqr(b5)-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*conj(b5):
zx=3Dreal(z),zy=3Dimag(z),
x=3Dfn1(zx*p1x-zy*p1y)+fn2(zx*p2x-zy*p2y),
y=3Dfn3(zx*p1y+zy*p1x)+fn4(zx*p2y+zy*p2x),
z=3Dx+flip(y),
|z|<=3D4
}


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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) popcorn and evolver issue solved!
Date: 14 Sep 1999 18:53:41 -0600

Turners out that type=popcorn spilling out over the evolver postage
stamps is a feature not a bug :-)

The popcorn fractal uses the same routine fot its plotting as is
used for plotting orbits, except that it turns off restoring the screen.
This routine clips pixels to the physical screen but not the(smaller)
virtual screen. Normally the physical and virtual screen are the
same. The two cases where they are different, and the virtual
screen is smaller, are viewwindows and the evolver. No one has
ever complained, but type=popcorn also spills outside a
viewwindows screen (try it). The evolver and viewwindows create
small virtual screens in exactly the same way.

So this is a "feature" because it is on purpose. :-) Bill Jemison, our
sound wizard, has created a lot of music with fractint using
viewwindows, and he *counts* on having orbits spill outside of the
viewwindows frame. However I doubt Bill cares about this for the
evolver since I doubt he'll use the evolver for music. (But you never
know.)

There are two cures. One is to clip the orbits to the virtual screen,
bit only when the evolver is on (very easy). This is probably a
perfectly good solution, but I think it goes against (modulating voice
to a hushed reverent tone) "The Stone Soup Philosophy", which is
to give the user as much (possibly absurd) freedom as possible.
Somebody might LIKE evolving popcorn fractals and having them
spill over the postage stamp boundaries! SO I propose a new
option, something like "cliporbit=" which would default to "no" ( the
present behavior). If set to "yes" it would constrain both popcorn
and orbits to stay within the prescribed virtual screen pixel limits.

Comments?

Tim


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From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book?
Date: 14 Sep 1999 21:27:47 -0500

Marie Drozdis wrote:
>
<snip>
>
> Anyone who was online here with me 'way back then' knew that I had given
> away my original, which I purchased, with the expectation that it would be
> easy for me to replace it.  NOT!
>

I would use Amazon.com and Barnes&Noble.com to find out-of-print books for me
only as a last resort. There are many used-book dealers on the net now. The
biggest and maybe the best of them is Powell's in Portland, Ore.,
http.//www.powells.com , in case any of you want to buy a used copy of Tim's
Fractal Creations book. The 2nd edition came with a compact disk, a 3.5 inch
diskette with FractInt V. 18.21, and a pair of 3D glasses to view 3D fractals.
Inquire if those items are with the book before you elect whether to buy it.

Bob Margolis
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From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book?
Date: 14 Sep 1999 21:41:45 -0500

Bob Margolis wrote:

http.//www.powells.com

when he meant to type http://www.powells.com in his last message to the list.
Sorry, folks.

Bob "Gnarled Fingers" Margolis

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Contest '99 Update
Date: 14 Sep 1999 22:55:25 -0500

Greetings folks,

As my weary eyes beg for a respite from their labor, I summon the last
vestiges of energy and write these words, to let you, gentle reader, know
the status of our long-awaited contest web site.

I am very nearly finished. The hardest part--which I did not have time to
do before the entry deadline had passed, and did not expect to take as long
as it has--is now done. That part is the voting mechanism. Last year, it
was not very convenient to vote, it was cumbersome and you had to write
down archaic entry numbers and enter them into the appropriate blanks, and
if you didn't fill the entire form out in one sitting you had to start over
later.

This year things will be different. When you view the entries in a
category, you will see thumbnails of all the images. Click one, and you
will get a full-size view. Once you have that full-size view, you will be
able to move from one full-size image to the next (you won't have to go
back to the thumbs page) and more importantly, you will be able to MARK
images you like, and the marks will be remembered. You can of course unmark
images as well.

When you open up the voting form, you will find that your marked images are
listed right at the top. Choose one and you'll see a thumbnail of it; click
the thumbnail and you'll get a new window with the full-size image. This
will make it very easy for you to get the entry numbers of the images you
liked.

But that isn't all. When you fill in your votes for first, second, and
third place in a category, you will see thumbnails for those, too, which
you can click to get full-size images. AND you will have a convenient place
to add your comments, right next to each image. If you enter a number that
doesn't belong to the category you're putting it in, you'll be reminded
right away.

But that's not the best part. The best part is that if you close the voting
form and re-open it later, it will *remember* everything you've put in it
(if your browser has cookies enabled). Every voted image, every marked
picture, every word of your comments will be recorded on your system, so
that you won't have to do it all over again if you accidentally close your
browser--or if you can't finish it all in one sitting.

It is the programming of all this magic that has deprived me of sleep these
past few days. I also discovered tonight that where I thought the contest
entries would only require 1200 separate web pages, it turns out they will
need 2400. So I have built all of those, too.

I expect to be able to finish up tomorrow (there are only a few
miscellaneous pages to do) and get everything posted. Don't all rush to the
web site, I'll post a notice here tomorrow when I do have everything done.
But I just wanted to let you know where things stand. I'll post information
on ordering CDs tomorrow, too.

One last thing: because of the extremely long time it has taken to get the
entries posted, voting will be extended *two weeks*. You will have through
October 9 to view images and send in your votes. This should provide enough
time for everyone to browse or download the web site, or order a CD if they
are so inclined.

And now, I'm going home to sleep.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  Fractalus Galleries & Info:
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or
in a newsgroup.  Thank you.

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From: "David J. Dollevoet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint v 20.0
Date: 15 Sep 1999 00:20:02 -0500


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To Timothy Wegner, Jonathan Osuch, George Martin, Robin Bussell, et al:
Thank-you for Fractint V 20.0.

The "New Features of 20.0" section of Fractint.doc lists 65 items, some
with multiple features.  It will take me quite a while to try each.  My
enthusiasm, however, will not allow me to delay acknowledgement.

The video mode configuration program Makefcfg.exe accurately configured
Fractint.cfg for my Matrox Millenium G200 video card.

The parser speed-up (Chuck Ebbert) is very welcome.  A quick survey:
Fractal  V 19.6  V 20.0  Ratio
-------  ------  ------  -----
_BI0-00   2'50"   2'20"   82%
_BP0-04   4'14"   3'37"   85%
_AH0-00   4'23"   3'24"   78%
_AG0-00   5'57"   4'55"   83%
_AA1-00   8'28"   7'44"   91%
_AA1-04  11'37"  10'42"   92%

Coloring option "Inside = atan" was just what I needed to finish an
image.

In writing parameter files, the "maximum line length" field will make it
convenient to include parameter files in e-mail text.

The new 32767x32767 pixels limit for images will be a significant
enhancement for quality, large prints.  To Fractint.cfg, I added some
higher resolution Disk Video lines, following the layout of the others.
Results:  Fractal _BI0-00 at 1600x1200 (1,920,000) pixels in 2'26" and
at 3200x2400 (7,680,000) pixels in 9'40".  The 3200x2400 pixels image
looked fine in MS Photo Editor.

I am in training with Fractal Evolver (Robin Bussell).  What potential!
I appreciate the documentation.

Thanks again,

David Dollevoet

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<TT>To Timothy Wegner, Jonathan Osuch, George Martin, Robin Bussell, et
al:  Thank-you for Fractint V 20.0.</TT>
<P><TT>The "New Features of 20.0" section of Fractint.doc lists 65 items,
some with multiple features.  It will take me quite a while to try
each.  My enthusiasm, however, will not allow me to delay acknowledgement.</TT>
<P><TT>The video mode configuration program Makefcfg.exe accurately configured
Fractint.cfg for my Matrox Millenium G200 video card.</TT>
<P><TT>The parser speed-up (Chuck Ebbert) is very welcome.  A quick
survey:</TT>
<BR><TT>Fractal  V 19.6  V 20.0  Ratio</TT>
<BR><TT>-------  ------  ------  -----</TT>
<BR><TT>_BI0-00   2'50"   2'20"   82%</TT>
<BR><TT>_BP0-04   4'14"   3'37"   85%</TT>
<BR><TT>_AH0-00   4'23"   3'24"   78%</TT>
<BR><TT>_AG0-00   5'57"   4'55"   83%</TT>
<BR><TT>_AA1-00   8'28"   7'44"   91%</TT>
<BR><TT>_AA1-04  11'37"  10'42"   92%</TT>
<P><TT>Coloring option "Inside = atan" was just what I needed to finish
an image.</TT>
<P><TT>In writing parameter files, the "maximum line length" field will
make it convenient to include parameter files in e-mail text.</TT>
<P><TT>The new 32767x32767 pixels limit for images will be a significant
enhancement for quality, large prints.  To Fractint.cfg, I added some
higher resolution Disk Video lines, following the layout of the others.
Results:  Fractal _BI0-00 at 1600x1200 (1,920,000) pixels in 2'26"
and at 3200x2400 (7,680,000) pixels in 9'40".  The 3200x2400 pixels
image looked fine in MS Photo Editor.</TT>
<P><TT>I am in training with Fractal Evolver (Robin Bussell).  What
potential!  I appreciate the documentation.</TT>
<P><TT>Thanks again,</TT>
<P><TT>David Dollevoet</TT></HTML>

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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) popcorn and evolver issue solved!
Date: 15 Sep 1999 20:12:41 +1200

At 18:53 14/09/1999 -0600, Tim wrote:
> Bill Jemison, our
>sound wizard, has created a lot of music with fractint using
>viewwindows, and he *counts* on having orbits spill outside of the
>viewwindows frame.
>
So, it is a miswart after all - something that superficially appears to be
a bug, but turned out to be the "right thing" all along.

Morgan
"It's not like it's _important_ or anything..."



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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Is it my sound card or...
Date: 15 Sep 1999 20:11:53 +1200

Would someone be able to confirm the following behaviour for me, so's I can
tell if it's a general problem or if it's my own sound card that's at fault?

Trying out the sound demos in Fract200.par, I was playing Sylvie Gallet's
music_5. In order to see the orbit, I changed colour maps. On returning to
the run, the previously stacatto notes had noticeably lengthened. I found
that any pausing of the trace resulted in this lengthening on resumption.

Of the other sound demos in fract200.par, the only other which behaves like
this is music_6. It seems significant that these are the only two pars in
the file that don't have a "srelease" entry.

After a bit more tinkering I find that the only time the release parameter
affects the sound output is when it's contained in a par "srelease" entry,
and then only if nothing interrupts. Otherwise it sounds as if it's stuck
on 15.

So, has anyone else experienced this, or will I have to fiddle with things
I know nothing about? :-)

Morgan L. Owens
"Oh and the output seems unnaturally quiet, too."



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From: Randall Britten <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) XFractint 310 colour maps
Date: 15 Sep 1999 10:58:37 +0200

Running on Redhat 6.0, using fvwm or KDE, xfractint starts with a blue to
black graded colour map.  On 304 I used to simple press e, then enter, then
l, then choose "default.map" or some other map, and proceed happily.  Trying
the same thing on 310 doesn't work, the map remains unchanged.

Anyone got some help for me?

Randall Britten



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From: "John P" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) XFractint 310 colour maps
Date: 15 Sep 1999 02:16:52 PDT

I have the same issue with my system, Running Enlightenment on Redhat 5.2
with AX5.0 as my xserver.  I think it has to do with the fact you're using
16 or 24 bit color (maybe you're not so I would be wrong then), at any rate,
it would be nice to emulate a palette so one could generate 8 bit color
fractals on their 24 bit screen.  Maybe an error with loading a map in the
newer version.
>Running on Redhat 6.0, using fvwm or KDE, xfractint starts with a blue to
>black graded colour map.  On 304 I used to simple press e, then enter, then
>l, then choose "default.map" or some other map, and proceed happily.
>Trying
>the same thing on 310 doesn't work, the map remains unchanged.
>
>Anyone got some help for me?
>
>------------------------------
>Randall Britten

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Subject: R: (fractint) Contest '99 Update
Date: 15 Sep 1999 12:58:16 +0200

good night, we all love you ...

kanak


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From: "Marie Drozdis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book?
Date: 15 Sep 1999 09:09:16 -0700

Thanks for the messages. Those who are not familiar with all the sources for
finding used books can benefit from it. Powells was unable to help me.  I
actually never heard from them again later, even when they weren't able to
help me. I had heard very many good things about them, but I found them less
responsive than the others.

Fractal Creations is a good 'cookbook' for anyone, especially those just
discovering Fractint.  It can be overwhelming at first, until you learn to
peel off the layers and find all the goodies lurking within.  The book can
make it simple as well as satisfy those who are more adept with the program;
I wish it were still in print.

Meanwhile, I am trying out Fractint v20, and discovering its many good
features.  I am still entranced by the music and the evolver.
Marie :)

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Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 7:27 PM


>>There are many used-book dealers on the net now. The
> biggest and maybe the best of them is Powell's in Portland, Ore.,
> http.//www.powells.com , in case any of you want to buy a used copy of
Tim's
> Fractal Creations book. The 2nd edition came with a compact disk, a 3.5
inch
> diskette with FractInt V. 18.21, and a pair of 3D glasses to view 3D
fractals.
> Inquire if those items are with the book before you elect whether to buy
it.
>
> Bob Margolis
> [e-mail]



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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 4 pars
Date: 15 Sep 1999 09:45:56 -0400

A bit of explanation first:

ds36 has a slight modification to wizz1015 color map. It is from Celtic
Julia (Paul Carlson), using evolver + a zoom.

ds38 has a slight modification to wizz1016 color map.

ds39 has a slight modification to Lindaa12 color map and is a result of an
evolver change from ds 38.

ds40 is a result of a mistake; ran evolver from a previous fractal, located
the one I wanted, stuck the box on it, and hit "enter" instead of "B". Let
that run and picked out this image as a sample of numerous good ones.

============================================================================


ds36               { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 15, 1999 t=  0:00:38.84
                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_c.frm formulaname=Celtic_Julia
  passes=1 center-mag=-0.477027/0.485013/4.901994/1/-42.499
  params=0.7043490401928769/-0.8389255958738975/0.25/64/3/63 float=y
  maxiter=500 inside=zmag outside=summ
  colors=000<3>000<4>0ZZ0ee0mm4UU8AA<7>4aa3ee3hh<3>0ww<9>0ZZ0XX0UU<2>0NN0K\
  K2MM<8>RhhUjjXmm<3>gww<9>HeeEccBaa<3>0UUUUUTTT<2>LLL<2>SSSUUUVVV<4>eeegg\
  gjjjkkk<2>sss<8>```ZZZXXXUUUTTT<2>LLL<2>SSSUUUVVV<4>eeegggjjjkkk<2>sss<8\
  >PPPLLLIII<3>444`ch<37>556445334223112000<67>000
  }


ds38               { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 15, 1999 t=  0:00:40.97
                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_c.frm formulaname=Celtic_Julia
  passes=1 center-mag=-1.11022e-016/0.0156454/3.205128
  params=0.78/0.5/0.25/128/3/63 float=y maxiter=500 inside=zmag
  outside=summ
  colors=000000065<3>0VU0`_0gf<2>0zy<3>MavRWuXQu<3>r0q<3>X0WS0RM0L<3>000<4\
  3>000<3>000110332<23>nnmpporrq<3>zzy<25>CCBAA9887<2>221000000<39>0000000\
  00<3>000g00j00m00k05<3>`0UZ0_W0eT0l<3>I0LF0EA09504000110<44>zzy
  }

ds39               { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 15, 1999 t=  0:00:30.10
                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_c.frm formulaname=Celtic_Julia
  passes=1 center-mag=-1.11022e-016/0.0156454/3.205128
  params=1.474326609088412/-0.4064302499465926/0.25/128/3/63 float=y
  maxiter=500 inside=zmag outside=summ
  colors=xn_000vlY<22>XQBVPAUO9<2>RL6QK5QK6QL8<2>UQGVSJXUN<3>bbZddbefe<3>l\
  or<3>XZ_SUWOQR<3>787<3>221000000<6>11811921A<10>35N36O36P37Q<3>59X6AY6B_\
  7Ba7Cc<26>PWsQXsQXt<2>T_vT_vSZu<25>CHfBGeAGd<2>8Db7Ca7B_<7>35N24L24J13I1\
  2G01E<10>016015015<2>002000000<7>STVVXZZ`b<3>lor<8>ZXRYVOWTK<2>SNBQL8QL8\
  QL7QK6<21>pgSqhTsiU<2>vlXxnZxnZxnZ
  }

ds40               { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 15, 1999 t=  0:00:34.22
                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_h.frm formulaname=hc_julstar
  function=atan/exp/ident/floor passes=t
  center-mag=-1.42109e-014/1.24345e-014/0.142637
  params=1.076870784630879/1.246314889980773/16.01159703360088/0.696249275\
  1853999/-1.528656880397961/-0.3558427686391797 float=y maxiter=550
  inside=maxiter outside=summ
  colors=000444<24>oolppnrrp<3>zzw<16>HHGEEECCB<3>111MC7<3>hVLn_PscSyhW<8>\
  VJDRGBOD9<3>A20000<34>0fn0gp0hq<3>0mw<11>0HN0EK0BH<3>005K0K<29>hXpiZqj_r\
  <2>lbumdwmdw<35>J6XI5WH4V<3>E0SA20<4>YMFaPHfTK<3>yhW<16>OD8LB7J96<3>A201\
  11222
  }

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Hope you like 'em.



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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) evolver par
Date: 15 Sep 1999 09:45:55 -0400

A par:


ds33               { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 15, 1999 t=  0:00:30.48
                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_b.frm
  formulaname=bubbleboth_jul passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=-1.094210486159856/1.559731711783197/2500/0.75/1.5/0 float=y
  maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255
  colors=006H85E53<10>526417317<3>008W08<40>sfptgqthr<2>vkuwmwwlv<24>`9B`8\
  A_68<3>W00000<37>000<4>000A20<4>YMFaPHfTK<3>yhW<3>paRn_PlZO<2>eTK<2>dSJc\
  RJbRIaQIaPH<32>F63E53D52<2>B31A20B30<25>o`QqaRscS<3>yhW<11>LB7
  }







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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) popcorn and evolver issue solved!
Date: 15 Sep 1999 09:48:48 -0400

 << SO I propose a new option, something like "cliporbit=3D" which would
 <<default to "no" ( the present behavior). If set to "yes" it would
 <<constrain both popcorn and orbits to stay within the prescribed virtua=
l
 <<screen pixel limits.

Seems like a good idea to me, Tim.

Bill

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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Is it my sound card or...
Date: 15 Sep 1999 11:57:46 -0400

Morgan,

It is possible that Sylvie actually did those pars before the srelease
parameter was around. I haven't noticed or duplicated your problem, but i=
t
sounds as if it *may* be related to the srelease. Have you tried a <b> on=

the offending file(s) to see if it writes the missing srelease in to the
new par, and does that take care of the problem?

Hope you are enjoying the new sound features!

Bill

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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) XFractint 310 colour maps
Date: 15 Sep 1999 10:29:55 -0600


In article <[e-mail]>,
    Randall Britten <[e-mail]>  writes:

> Running on Redhat 6.0, using fvwm or KDE, xfractint starts with a blue to
> black graded colour map. [...]

xfractint only runs reliably in 8-bit pseudocolor mode.  Check
'xdpyinfo' and see what it says for the root visual.  If it says
anything other than PseudoColor, you need to change the visual of your
server.

[Tim, did my change to let xfractint limp along in non-pseudocolor
visuals get into xfractint?]
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From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Is it my sound card or...
Date: 15 Sep 1999 13:05:25 -0400

Hi Bill and Morgan,

>> It is possible that Sylvie actually did those pars before the srelease=

>> parameter was around.

  Those pars don't have the srelease=3D parameter because they use the
default value (5).

>> I haven't noticed or duplicated your problem, but it sounds as if it
>> *may* be related to the srelease.

  Me neither, but pressing a key just after you run the pars changes the
sound (and produces the correct sound).  I have the same problem with
music_1.

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) New galleries
Date: 15 Sep 1999 15:42:53 -0400

Hi All,

  I just added two galleries to my site:
    #13 with 14 carr2821's
    #14 with 12 images (ddecorated eggs, embossed mandels...)

  All images were crested with Ultra Fractal.

  I want to thank Damien Jones who generously offered me a little space a=
t
Fractalus.com!

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

ps: Oops, I was about to forget the URL!

   http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet/homepage.htm

  Enjoy!

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From: Kenneth Childress <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries
Date: 15 Sep 1999 13:14:01 -0700 (PDT)


Red,

Outstanding gallery.  You certainly know what you are doing.  I think
I'm going to have to steal^H^H^H^Hborrow some ideas.  :-)


Sylvie,

Another stellar set of images.  I'm amazed at the seeming simplicity of
the images, yet the beauty you extract from them.  Can you bottle that
ability and send some to me?  :-)




Ken...




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries
Date: 15 Sep 1999 16:26:23 EDT

  They are all beautiful.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) 4 pars
Date: 15 Sep 1999 16:30:25 EDT

Hi David,

The 4 PARs were nice work. Keep it up.

Regards,

--Bob Carr--

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) evolver-pars 1
Date: 15 Sep 1999 17:04:25 EDT

Hi Jo,

Excellent group of images.

Regards,

--Bob Carr--

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From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries
Date: 15 Sep 1999 17:44:17 -0400

Hi,

>>  They are all beautiful.

  Thank you!

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries
Date: 15 Sep 1999 17:44:15 -0400

Hi Ken,

>> Another stellar set of images.  I'm amazed at the seeming simplicity o=
f
>> the images, yet the beauty you extract from them.

  Thank you very much!  =


>> Can you bottle that ability and send some to me?  :-)

  ;-)

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 4 pars
Date: 15 Sep 1999 17:50:08 -0400

At 04:30 PM 9/15/1999 EDT, you wrote:
Hi Bob,

>The 4 PARs were nice work. Keep it up.

Regards,



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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) [gnu.announce] GNU Project seeks nominations for the Free So
Date: 15 Sep 1999 16:01:46 -0600 (MDT)

   Date:  Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:11:59 -0400
     To:  [e-mail]
 Groups:  gnu.announce,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.sources.d,gnu.misc.discuss
 Follow:  gnu.misc.discuss
   From:  Free Software Foundation <[e-mail]>
    Org:  Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
     Id:  <[e-mail]>
========
[Please redistribute widely where appropriate]

The GNU project is asking for nominations for the Second Annual Free
Software Foundation Award for the Advancement of Free Software.
We want to give this award to a person who has made a great
contribution to the progress and development of free software (free as
in freedom; see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html for the
definition), through activities that accord with the spirit of free
software.

Any kind of activity could be eligible--writing software, writing
documentation, publishing CDs, even journalism--but whatever the
activity, we want to recognize long-term central contributions to the
development of the world of free software.  "Accord with the spirit"
means, for example, that software, manuals or collections of them (on
tape or CD) must be entirely free.  (Once again, that's free as in
freedom; see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html.)  Work done
commercially is eligible, but we want to give awards to individuals,
not companies.

People such as Richard Stallman, Linus Torvalds and Larry Wall, who
have already received this or other awards for their contributions,
are not eligible for the Free Software Award.

Please send your nominations to [e-mail], on or
before October 8, 1999.  Please put the name of the person you are
nominating in the message subject.

Please include an explanation of the work the person has done and why
you think it is especially important--but no more than 40 lines long.
Also please state where to find the software which your nomination is
based on.













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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) [gnu.announce] GNU Project seeks nominations for the Free So
Date: 15 Sep 1999 16:16:27 -0600


I sent this to the fractint list because I want everyone to nominate
the Fractint team for the excellent free (as in freedom) software
they've provided for all of us!
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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 4 pars
Date: 15 Sep 1999 18:27:19 -0400

>Hi Bob,
>
>>The 4 PARs were nice work. Keep it up.

Oh good grief!  Forgot to write "Thanks".

So here it is, Thank you.

Regards,


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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries
Date: 15 Sep 1999 18:39:45 -0400

At 03:42 PM 9/15/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>  I just added two galleries to my site:
>    #13 with 14 carr2821's
>    #14 with 12 images (ddecorated eggs, embossed mandels...)

A really magnificient site. A brief run  through only a couple of galleries
and I picked out 9905311, 9906085, and 9906082 in gallery 10, 2821040 in
gallery 13, 990881 and egg 9905022 in gallery 14 as even more special.

Regards,


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From: JoWeber <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) evolver-pars 1
Date: 15 Sep 1999 21:02:02 -0400

Hi Bob,

>>Excellent group of images.

Thanks --Jo--

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From: JoWeber <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) evolver pars 2
Date: 15 Sep 1999 21:02:07 -0400

Hi All,
a second exploration of two formulas from Bob Carr.
Enjoy --Jo Weber--

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                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
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v\
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  }

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                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
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v\
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  }

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                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  01:10:39
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
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v\
  WHwUF<9>H00000000<20>o00<14>000000RII<12>zyn<10>XFw<14>213000000<14>7Mw=

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                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
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                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
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                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
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                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
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                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
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                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
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  }

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                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
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  WHwUF<9>H00000000<20>o00<14>000000RII<12>zyn<10>XFw<14>213000000<14>7Mw=

  }

6c293209           { ; t=3D  0:00:53.55 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  01:38:46
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dcarr2931.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2932 function=3Dtan/ident/tan/ident passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D0.00209004/-0.00121725/1.528211/1/-67.5
  params=3D-0.8497268593401899/-0.2885525070955535/0/0 float=3Dy
  potential=3D256/200/0 periodicity=3D0
  colors=3D000007<13>0Xd<15>svc<15>0Xd<15>007zo`<14>nP0<15>000<14>kO0nP0o=
R2<\
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>\
  214000000<30>h00
  }

6c293211           { ; t=3D  0:00:44.60 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  01:38:58
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dcarr2931.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2932 function=3Dtan/ident/tan/ident passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D0.00209004/-0.00121725/1.528211/1/-67.5
  params=3D0.4182561723685415/-0.2049928281502731/0/0 float=3Dy
  potential=3D256/200/0 periodicity=3D0
  colors=3D000000<13>XFt<5>I8UF7QD6MA5I84E<2>000B00<9>a00<7>zz0<9>W00<7>8=
000\
  00007<11>70X<6>vsd<2>jiffefbbfY_fUXg<2>IMh<3>`Fw<7>5Pw<10>02C007000<5>P=
H\
  HTKKXPN<5>vsc<5>ujUuhSufQudOubM<3>wUF<9>H00000000<20>o00<14>000000RII<5=
>\
  fbXie_lhaokdrog<2>zyn<10>XFw<12>63A427213000000<14>7Mw
  }

6c293220           { ; t=3D  0:00:44.22 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  01:39:08
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dcarr2931.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2932 function=3Dtan/ident/tan/ident passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D0.00209004/-0.00121725/1.528211/1/-67.5
  params=3D1.804010132145146/-0.5988952299569689/0/0 float=3Dy
  potential=3D256/200/0 periodicity=3D0
  colors=3D000000<13>XFt<5>I8UF7QD6MA5I84E<2>000B00<9>a00<7>zz0<9>W00<7>8=
000\
  00007<11>70X<6>vsd<2>jiffefbbfY_fUXg<2>IMh<3>`Fw<7>5Pw<10>02C007000<5>P=
H\
  HTKKXPN<5>vsc<5>ujUuhSufQudOubM<3>wUF<9>H00000000<20>o00<14>000000RII<5=
>\
  fbXie_lhaokdrog<2>zyn<10>XFw<12>63A427213000000<14>7Mw
  }

6c293222           { ; t=3D  0:00:58.22 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  01:39:17
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dcarr2931.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2932 function=3Dtan/ident/tan/ident passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D0.0532341/0.122255/0.9367722/1/-67.5
  params=3D-1.236487929929502/-0.9528489028595843/0/0 float=3Dy
  potential=3D256/200/0 periodicity=3D0
  colors=3D000000<13>XFt<5>I8UF7QD6MA5I84E<2>000B00<9>a00<7>zz0<9>W00<7>8=
000\
  00007<11>70X<6>vsd<2>jiffefbbfY_fUXg<2>IMh<3>`Fw<7>5Pw<10>02C007000<5>P=
H\
  HTKKXPN<5>vsc<5>ujUuhSufQudOubM<3>wUF<9>H00000000<20>o00<14>000000RII<5=
>\
  fbXie_lhaokdrog<2>zyn<10>XFw<12>63A427213000000<14>7Mw
  }


frm:Carr2931{ ; Modified OK-42
;passes=3D1 needs to be used with this PHC formula.
b5=3Dpixel,
p1x=3Dreal(p1)+1,p1y=3Dimag(p1)+1,
p2x=3Dreal(p2)+1,p2y=3Dimag(p2)+1
z=3Dwhitesq*sqr(b5)-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*conj(b5):
zx=3Dreal(z),zy=3Dimag(z),
x=3Dfn1(zx*p1x-zy*p1y)+fn2(zx*p2x-zy*p2y),
y=3Dfn3(zx*p1y+zy*p1x)+fn4(zx*p2y+zy*p2x),
z=3Dx+flip(y)+(-0.7456,-0.132)+(x+flip(y))/10,
|z|<=3D4
}


frm:Carr2932{ ; Modified OK-42
;passes=3D1 needs to be used with this PHC formula.
b5=3Dpixel,
p1x=3Dreal(p1)+1,p1y=3Dimag(p1)+1,
p2x=3Dreal(p2)+1,p2y=3Dimag(p2)+1
z=3Dwhitesq*sqr(b5)-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*conj(b5):
zx=3Dreal(z),zy=3Dimag(z),
x=3Dfn1(zx*p1x-zy*p1y)+fn2(zx*p2x-zy*p2y),
y=3Dfn3(zx*p1y+zy*p1x)+fn4(zx*p2y+zy*p2x),
z=3D(|x+flip(y)|)+(x+flip(y))+(-0.7456,-0.132)+(x+flip(y))/10,
|z|<=3D4
}


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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver
Date: 15 Sep 1999 21:18:06 -0400

Ron,

 << Here is a par (first one I have submitted for Fractint in a very long=

 << time :-)). The graphics resolution will affect the tune.

 <<Snowflakes     {
 <<                ; Ron Barnett, September 13, 1999
 <<                ; Fractint ver. 20.0
 <<   ...

Really nice music par! I really enjoyed it, and tried at various
resolutions, including large diskvideo modes (nice looooong sessions <g>)=
.

I particularly liked the scale mapping you used...good work!

Bill

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From: JoWeber <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Another carr formula par
Date: 15 Sep 1999 21:50:45 -0400

Hi All,

some zooms into Carr2891 and Carr2939.

Enjoy --Jo--

http://www.joweber.de

6c289113           { ; t=3D  0:29:22.39 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:54:56
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2891 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D-0.00180494/0.0015702/2.574084/1/-14.999
  params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0
  colors=3D000990EE0II0MM0RR0WW0<3>hhMlkSooYsrcvvhzynwtosop<8>NhlJgkFgkBf=
j8e\
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  47A149000550
  }

6c289114           { ; t=3D  0:42:29.31 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:55:20
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2891 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D+0.27158177846209420/-0.57489063269758780/94.78983/1/-29.9=
96
  params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0
  colors=3D0000002B1<8>5M3<5>jj0<5>5M3<8>020000000000<10>BGJ<6>zpa<6>BGJB=
GJ<\
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<\
  6>iri<6>5M3<9>020000000
  }

6c293909           { ; t=3D  1:01:57.63 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:55:32
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D0.346138/0.752141/5.240934/1/-135 params=3D200/300/400/550=

  float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0
  colors=3D000E00B00800000007<11>70X<6>vsd<2>jiffefbbfY_fUXg<2>IMh<3>`Fw<=
7>5\
  Pw<10>02C007000<5>PHHTKKXPN<5>vsc<4>ulWujUuhSufQudO<4>wUF<9>H00000000<2=
0\
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<\
  13>XFt<3>NAbK9ZI8UG7Q<2>84E539315000B00<9>a00<7>zz0<9>W00<4>H00
  }

6c293914           { ; t=3D  0:56:32.97 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:55:47
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D+0.30565287451883730/+0.94791352416572470/52.40934/1/-135
  params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0
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>Xc\
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  gJ0
  }

6c293916           { ; t=3D  2:32:47.89 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:55:58
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D+0.16402166300498100/-0.29815484029751390/36.62661/1/-79.9=
99
  params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0
  colors=3D000T00<6>800000007<11>70X<6>vsd<2>jiffefbbfY_fUXg<2>IMh<3>`Fw<=
7>5\
  Pw<10>02C007000<5>PHHTKKXPN<5>vsc<4>ulWujUuhSufQudO<4>wUF<9>H00000000<2=
0\
  >o00<14>000000RII<6>ie_liboldroguriwvlzyn<10>XFw<7>G8UE7QC6MA5J84F63B42=
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<\
  9>W00
  }

6c293929           { ; t=3D  1:36:36.45 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:56:07
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D+0.26706192013706520/+0.86355194874166650/96.42579/1/145
  params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0
  colors=3D000E00B00800000007<11>70X<6>vsd<2>jiffefbbfY_fUXg<2>IMh<3>`Fw<=
7>5\
  Pw<10>02C007000<5>PHHTKKXPN<5>vsc<4>ulWujUuhSufQudO<4>wUF<9>H00000000<2=
0\
  >o00<14>000000RII<6>ie_liboldroguriwvlzyn<10>XFw<14>213000000<14>7Mw000=
<\
  13>XFt<3>NAbK9ZI8UG7Q<2>84E539315000B00<9>a00<7>zz0<9>W00<4>H00
  }

6c293954           { ; t=3D  2:34:06.60 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:56:18
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D+0.17106306245909850/-0.28832514958665110/251.9717/1/-80
  params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0
  colors=3D000<13>XFt<3>NAbK9ZI8UG7Q<2>84E539315000B00<9>a00<7>zz0<9>W00<=
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0\
  00
  }

6c293970           { ; t=3D  1:35:40.98 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:56:29
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D+0.13507004543312170/-0.43680929986672170/1747.731/1/-37.4=
96
  params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0
  colors=3D000B5I<3>000B00<9>a00<7>zz0<9>W00<7>800000007<11>70X<6>vsd<2>j=
iff\
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S\
  ufQudO<4>wUF<9>H00000000<20>o00<14>000000RII<6>ie_liboldroguriwvlzyn<10=
>\
  XFw<14>213000000<14>7Mw000<13>XFt<3>NAbK9ZI8UG7QD6M
  }

6c293977           { ; t=3D  1:17:51.47 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:56:40
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D+0.25586655386249250/+0.85330515391690130/194.4068/1/144.9=
98
  params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0
  colors=3D000TZk<12>23300000500A<5>08E<7>NW5Q_3Tb2We0Tb1<7>9E96AB47A1490=
00<\
  3>II0MM0RR0WW0<3>hhMlkSooYsrcvvhzynwtosop<8>NhlJgkFgkBfj8ej4di0ch0ae0Zb=
<\
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N\
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  WZi__lc`n<3>gJ0<4>T00R00P00<2>A00<4>kbs<7>000220457<5>HKSJNWMQ_OTcQWg<2=
>\
  XcrVao
  }

frm:Carr2891{;Modified Sylvie Gallet frm. [101324,3444],1996
;passes=3D1 needs to be used with this PHC formula.
b5=3Dpixel-conj(0.1/pixel)-flip(0.01/pixel),
b3=3D|cos(conj(conj(pixel^30.5)))|
b4=3D(conj(conj(0.15/log(exp(conj(conj(pixel^450))-b3-0.4)-0.8))))+|flip(=
flip
(2*b5^4))|
c=3Dwhitesq*b4-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*b4
z=3Dwhitesq*b5-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*b5
c1=3D1.5*z,c2=3D2.25*z,c3=3D3.375*z,c4=3D5.0625*z,
l1=3Dreal(p1),l2=3Dimag(p1),l3=3Dreal(p2),l4=3Dimag(p2),
bailout=3D16,iter=3D0:
t1=3D(iter=3D=3Dl1),t2=3D(iter=3D=3Dl2),t3=3D(iter=3D=3Dl3),t4=3D(iter=3D=
=3Dl4),
t=3D1-(t1||t2||t3||t4),z=3Dz*t,c=3Dc*t+c1*t1+c2*t2+c3*t3+c4*t4,
z=3D(z*z)+(-0.7456,-0.132)+c/10-(0.0035/c/21)
iter=3Diter+1
|z|<=3Dbailout
}

frm:Carr2939{;Modified Sylvie Gallet frm. [101324,3444],1996
;passes=3D1 needs to be used with this PHC formula.
b5=3Dflip(flip(pixel/2))^5-conj(0.13/pixel)-flip(0.1/pixel)+0.3,
b4=3Dpixel^3-conj(0.13/pixel-cabs(0.1/pixel))
c=3Dwhitesq*conj(b4)-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*sqr(b4)
z=3Dwhitesq*sqr(b5)-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*conj(b5)
c1=3D1.5*z,c2=3D2.25*z,c3=3D3.375*z,c4=3D5.0625*z,
l1=3Dreal(p1),l2=3Dimag(p1),l3=3Dreal(p2),l4=3Dimag(p2),
bailout=3D16,iter=3D0:
t1=3D(iter=3D=3Dl1),t2=3D(iter=3D=3Dl2),t3=3D(iter=3D=3Dl3),t4=3D(iter=3D=
=3Dl4),
t=3D1-(t1||t2||t3||t4),z=3Dz*t,c=3Dc*t+c1*t1+c2*t2+c3*t3+c4*t4,
z=3D0.2*z^3+z^2+(-0.7656,-0.232)+c/10+c,
iter=3Diter+1
imag(flip(z))<=3Dbailout
}


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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please
Date: 15 Sep 1999 22:00:03 -0500

Ladies and Gentlemen,

It is with great pleasure that I present to you the entries for the
Fractal-Art '99 Contest:

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(Click the big word "Entries" right at the top. :-)

This isn't actually absolutely everything, but I know you're all dying to
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 - Animations are not posted yet.
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   hours ago, and they don't even have copies of it yet.)
 + Information on ordering the CD IS posted, although additional
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Those of you who are curious about the size of the contest web site may
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From: Paul DeCelle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please
Date: 16 Sep 1999 00:54:52 -0400

> Ladies and Gentlemen,
>
> It is with great pleasure that I present to you the entries for the
> Fractal-Art '99 Contest:
>
>     http://www.fractalus.com/contest99/


Outstanding!  After just a brief run through the thumbnails, I'm
impressed - and humbled :-) by the quality of the entries.  Voting's
going to be tough, but I'm up for it!

Regards,  Paul DeCelle

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Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please
Date: 16 Sep 1999 01:45:59 EDT

  Wonderful!!   It's going to be very difficult to vote. The entries are
terrific!   Thank you Damien....great job!
 Chris

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please
Date: 16 Sep 1999 02:26:19 EDT

I've just taken a preliminary stroll through the contest site...and I'm
stunned....it's been a trip through Wonderland!
Congratulations to the site and contest organizers and volunteers!!!
Congratulations to all of the entrants as well...it's going to be very hard
to vote!  It's a fascinating place..I only wish there were more comments!
....now how do we pop open the virtual bubbly to toast the Grand Opening?<G>

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From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please
Date: 15 Sep 1999 23:41:46 -0700

After looking at the thumbnails, I went back and downloaded about 30 of
the images.  I'm stunned!  They are so wonderful!  Everyone needs to see
the large images - if you only look at the thumbnails, you are cheating
yourself out of some great eye candy!

Thanks, Damien, Kerry, and everyone else!

Linda


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please
Date: 16 Sep 1999 03:17:07 EDT

In a message dated 99-09-16 02:43:31 EDT, you write:

<<  Everyone needs to see
 the large images - if you only look at the thumbnails, you are cheating
 yourself out of some great eye candy! >>

Oh! Without question..large large large is the way to go! These entries are
AMAZING!
Cannot wait to get my hands on the CD!

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From: "Wayne Kiely" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 2 Evolver PARS
Date: 16 Sep 1999 09:48:37 +0930

Hi all.

Found these two using the evolver on a David Shanholtzer posting of Sep 15, 1999

wk990916a          { ; Wayne Kiely <[e-mail]>
                     ; Sep 16, 1999
                     ; t=  0:00:51.80 on PII 350 MMX at 1024x768
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_b.frm
  formulaname=bubbleboth_jul passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=-0.1010771507919554/0.7813266090884126/2500/0.75/1.5/0
  float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0
  cyclerange=0/255 sound=off
  colors=006H85E53<8>735626526417317<3>008W08<41>tgqthruisujtvkuwmw<25>`9B\
  `8A_68<3>W00000<37>000<4>000A20<4>YMFaPHfTK<3>yhW<3>paRn_PlZOjXNgVLeTK<2\
  >dSJcRJbRIaQIaPH<32>F63E53D52<2>B31A20B30<22>jXNlYOm_P<3>udTvfUxgVyhW<11\
  >LB7
  }

wk990916b          { ; Wayne Kiely <[e-mail]>
                     ; Sep 16, 1999
                     ; t=  0:01:17.34 on PII 350 MMX at 1024x768
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_b.frm
  formulaname=bubbleboth_jul passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=-0.8546096682638021/0.1020151066621911/2500/0.75/1.5/0
  float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0
  cyclerange=0/255 sound=off
  colors=006H85E53<8>735626526417317<3>008W08<41>tgqthruisujtvkuwmw<25>`9B\
  `8A_68<3>W00000<37>000<4>000A20<4>YMFaPHfTK<3>yhW<3>paRn_PlZOjXNgVLeTK<2\
  >dSJcRJbRIaQIaPH<32>F63E53D52<2>B31A20B30<22>jXNlYOm_P<3>udTvfUxgVyhW<11\
  >LB7
  }


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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Is it my sound card or...
Date: 16 Sep 1999 20:42:12 +1200

At 13:05 15/09/1999 -0400, Sylvie wrote:
>
>  Me neither, but pressing a key just after you run the pars changes the
>sound (and produces the correct sound).  I have the same problem with
>music_1.
>

One of the problems I'm having is that I'm not sure which version you
intended - staccato or legato.

Morgan
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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Is it my sound card or...
Date: 16 Sep 1999 20:42:09 +1200

At 11:57 15/09/1999 -0400, Bill wrote:
>
>It is possible that Sylvie actually did those pars before the srelease
>parameter was around. I haven't noticed or duplicated your problem, but it
>sounds as if it *may* be related to the srelease. Have you tried a <b> on
>the offending file(s) to see if it writes the missing srelease in to the
>new par, and does that take care of the problem?
>
Just tried your suggestion: resaving the par does not write an srelease
when it wasn't there to start with - the result is identical up to line
length with the original.

>Hope you are enjoying the new sound features!
>
I am ... I'm not sure anyone else within earshot is :-)

Morgan L. Owens
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From: Randall Britten <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) xfractint 310
Date: 16 Sep 1999 11:10:12 +0200

Xfractint 310 runs if the X colour depth is 8 bits per plane (Linux: Redhat
6.0), Yay!

Some funnies:
- I had to make sure that the image window had focus when pressing F keys
(e.g. F6) (otherwise wierd results, e.g. F1 being   "escape")
- Ctrl+any alphabet key does not seem to work at all.
- Resizing the graphic window and then proceeding to try and draw causes it
to crash ("Segmentation Fault")

Only the "ismand" demos in Frac200.par (using Frac200.frm) worked,
everything else said: "could not understand hertz=150" or some other number.
After a number of failed @ retries, the program crashes ("Segmentation
Fault").

Just a question: the DOS version is written totally for a text/svga screen
type environment.  Wouldn't it perhaps be simpler to port the dos version to
a Linux text/svga version ?

And anyway, shouldn't it be written as a Win32 app by now (there must be a
rich sponser who would pay the authors loads of money to put in the hundreds
of hours.  This thing has such potential.)?  The UI could then be designed
for a windowing environment, and then a port to X could use the same UI
design.  I don't really understand what the advantages of the DOS
environment are.

-------------
Randall Britten




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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Is it my sound card or...
Date: 16 Sep 1999 10:54:46 -0400

Morgan,

Sylvie was entirely correct in her statement that the reason the srelease=

value wasn't included in the par is that it is at the default value. I ju=
st
double checked by resetting all the <F6> screen to default <F4> and writi=
ng
the par. Sure enough, none of the synth parameters were written in the pa=
r,
since they were all default.

Ie. the par not having reference to srelease is not the source of the
problem.

Bill

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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) xfractint 310
Date: 16 Sep 1999 10:54:48 -0400

Randal,

 << I don't really understand what the advantages of the DOS environment
are.

One REAL important advantage is that Dos was the *only* environment aroun=
d
for a great part of the Fractint development. <g>

Bill

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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) xfractint 310
Date: 16 Sep 1999 09:59:22 -0600


In article <[e-mail]>,
    Randall Britten <[e-mail]>  writes:

> - I had to make sure that the image window had focus when pressing F keys
> (e.g. F6) (otherwise wierd results, e.g. F1 being   "escape")

We (fractint development team) are working on improving the fractint
infrastructure for non-DOS environments in general and this should
improve in the next release or two.

> - Ctrl+any alphabet key does not seem to work at all.

Odd, that *should* work fine.

> - Resizing the graphic window and then proceeding to try and draw causes it
> to crash ("Segmentation Fault")

Resizing the graphic window doesn't achieve anything useful anyway.
xfractint still thinks its 'windows' is the entire screen.

> Only the "ismand" demos in Frac200.par (using Frac200.frm) worked,
> everything else said: "could not understand hertz=150" or some other number.
> After a number of failed @ retries, the program crashes ("Segmentation
> Fault").

Not sure about that, I haven't tried the new version of xfractint.

> Just a question: the DOS version is written totally for a text/svga screen
> type environment.  Wouldn't it perhaps be simpler to port the dos version to
> a Linux text/svga version ?

No, we're moving towards something that assumes less about the
environment to where xfractint should look and behave more like a
regular X app.

> And anyway, shouldn't it be written as a Win32 app by now (there must be a
> rich sponser who would pay the authors loads of money to put in the hundreds
> of hours.  This thing has such potential.)?  The UI could then be designed
> for a windowing environment, and then a port to X could use the same UI
> design.  I don't really understand what the advantages of the DOS
> environment are.

There is no rich sponsor, unless you consider me the Rich sponsor ;-).
I am the one that got sick of the status quo and decided to make the
major changes to the code base necessary to begin migrating fractint
towards a more modern GUI under windowed environments.  (It might even
end up improving the GUI under DOS.)
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From: "Morgen Bell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please
Date: 16 Sep 1999 12:42:04 -0400

Enormous thanks to Damien and everyone who has worked so hard on the
contest...it looks spectacular!
                                                            Morgen


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From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries
Date: 16 Sep 1999 14:28:36 -0400

Hi David,

>> A really magnificient site.

  Thank you, David!

  Regards,

        - Sylvie

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From: "Bruce Nepple" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Discontinuity in Mandelbrot Coloring
Date: 16 Sep 1999 13:07:44 -0700


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I'm running fractint 20.0.

I've included and attached a .par file (since I don't know which will work
better) from a stock mandelbrot.  Notice that there is a discontinuity in the
center (a circle) where iterations cross over 32767.  Is this a "bug"?  It looks
interesting, but I'm surprised to see such a thing.

The color "aliasing" makes for a neat spiral though.  In the old old version
that I first used to make this pattern, max iterations was 32767, and there
was an "inner color" circle at the same spot as the discontinuity.  If you have
the time, set max iterations to 32767 and try it.  It has an interesting effect
when you color cycle.

I suppose that with deep zoom and floating point, these "color aliasing"
spirals are old hat now, but I thought it was pretty cool when I first discovered
it (1992).

bruce

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                     ; Note the discontinuity where iterations cross 32767
                     ; (the center circle)
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From: Lionel Poeffel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Does Soundblaster work?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 00:42:14 +0200 (MET DST)


Hello out there!

First of all, I gotta say that the evolver feature
of v.20 ist REAL great! However there's something which
makes me worry.

I'm running DOS-Fractint under the Win95-Surface.
(P133, Soundblaster AWE)
Unfortunately, Fractint produces no Sound-Output
neither on the PC-speaker (which is probably due to
the buggy speaker) nor on the Soundcard which elswhere
works great. Is Fractint designed for Soundblaster and
cards of that kind at all, or should this be regarded
as a bug?

Thanks,

Lionel.

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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Makefcfg and DPMI
Date: 16 Sep 1999 18:43:38 -0600

The makefcfg program was compiled with the djgpp compiler, and
requires that DPMI memory services be available. If not, there is a
cryptic error message. Believe it or not, some users run Fractint in
a bare DOS environment with no memory management.

I've forgotten what little I ever knew about this topic. Can someone
help me out with a simple config.sys that works under DOS 6.22
and provides DPMI?

Alternatively, there is a freeware DPMI server that is available at the
djgpp web site. If anyone can give directions for how to use that, I'd
also appreciate it.

Alternatively, we need to port makefcfg.c to an environment that
doesn't need DPMI. The source code makes explicit calls to DPMI.

Tim


Another solution is that



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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) xfractint 310
Date: 16 Sep 1999 22:48:01 -0400

Randal,

 << I don't really understand what the advantages of the DOS environment
are.

One advantage is speed - it runs faster under DOS than in Windows.

Lee

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) xfractint 310
Date: 16 Sep 1999 22:00:21 -0500

Lee,

 - One advantage is speed - it runs faster under DOS than in Windows.

That's funny, I never really found that much difference. When I measured
it, it was a matter of perhaps 3%. If you're seeing a bigger difference
than that, it's probably not that FractInt is running in a DOS box inside
Windows, but that you've got other things running in Windows that are
eating lots of CPU time.

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                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) xfractint 310
Date: 17 Sep 1999 00:21:58 -0400

Damien,

>> - One advantage is speed - it runs faster under DOS than in Windows. <=
<

>>That's funny, I never really found that much difference. When I measure=
d
it, it was a matter of perhaps 3%. <<

So you agree!<g>  Even that 3% can add up substantially over time when yo=
ur
machine generates fractals over 20 hrs per day (a bonus 3 hrs in 5 days).=

I'm not recommending DOS over Windows for anyone - Randall just asked for=

an advantage and I gave him one.  OTOH, you'll definately need to run
Fractint under Windows to get the beautiful new sound features.

Lee

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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Discontinuity
Date: 17 Sep 1999 00:21:57 -0400

Bruce,

>> I'm running fractint 20.0.

I've included and attached a .par file (since I don't know which will wor=
k
better) from a stock mandelbrot.  Notice that there is a discontinuity in=

the center (a circle) where iterations cross over 32767.  Is this a "bug"=
? =

It looks interesting, but I'm surprised to see such a thing. <<

>>  reset=3D1720 type=3Dmandel <<

You are running Fractint 20.0, but are asking it to act like Fractint 17.=
2,
which was in fashion many years ago.  It had this discontinuity bug, and
this par will perpetuate that bug (and maybe other old bugs!)  until you
change reset=3D1720 to reset=3D2000.

Lee

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Subject: RE: (fractint) Does Soundblaster work?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 11:35 0000

Hi Lionel,

> Is Fractint designed for Soundblaster and
>cards of that kind at all, or should this be regarded
>as a bug?


 I wrote the sound drivers from the original Soundblaster card
documentation so an AWE32 should work as long as it's backward
compatible with the old card as regards the FM synth. I haven't tested
it on an AWE32 myself but believe it should work.... can anyone verify
this?

You could try checking the sound mixer control in windows,  try
turning up all the controls and if you're using the windows standard
mixer  then make sure you've checked out the mixer properties and have
all possible controls enabled.

Hope this helps,
                       Robin.


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From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Contest 99 French mirror
Date: 17 Sep 1999 15:34:27 +0200

Hi all,

The French mirror of the contest is updated. European visitors are invited
to use it to avoid an overload of the US site at fractalus.com.
If you experience any problem send me a mail (don't disturb Damien who has
made a huge work -more than 3000 files!-). I have had no time to verify all
the mirror site.

http://www.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr/contest99/

Enjoy ! It is a very great site.
J.P. Louvet                | Phone :  [phone]
IUT Universite Bordeaux I  | email : [e-mail]
33405 Talence CEDEX France | email : [e-mail]
Fractales sur serveur Web Universite Bordeaux I :
http://graffiti.u-bordeaux.fr/MAPBX/louvet/


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From: "Terry Erickson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Does Soundblaster work?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 09:58:09 -0700

I believe my sound card is a Soundblaster AWE 64 and it seems to work fine.

 I followed the instructions in the demo and learned to make fractal sounds.

I played with it for a couple of hours last night. I am now planning to use
this Fractint function  in my own music. Might well be my new obsession.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 11:35 AM


> Hi Lionel,
>
> > Is Fractint designed for Soundblaster and
> >cards of that kind at all, or should this be regarded
> >as a bug?
>
>
>  I wrote the sound drivers from the original Soundblaster card
> documentation so an AWE32 should work as long as it's backward
> compatible with the old card as regards the FM synth. I haven't tested
> it on an AWE32 myself but believe it should work.... can anyone verify
> this?
>
> You could try checking the sound mixer control in windows,  try
> turning up all the controls and if you're using the windows standard
> mixer  then make sure you've checked out the mixer properties and have
> all possible controls enabled.
>
> Hope this helps,
>                        Robin.
>
>
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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Web Site Bug
Date: 17 Sep 1999 14:05:48 -0500

Greetings folks,

Just wanted to let you know that there was a bug in the "unmark" code which
caused all marks to be removed, not just the one for the image you
selected. This will be fixed shortly. Marking, however, worked just fine.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  Fractalus Galleries & Info:
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or
in a newsgroup.  Thank you.

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From: "Jim Prickett" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) xfractint 310 - Linux ?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 11:38:09 -0700

 << I don't really understand what the advantages of the DOS environment
are.

<One advantage is speed - it runs faster under DOS than in Windows.

What speed difference is there running it under Linux,
does anyone know ?

Jim Prickett



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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) More on makefcfg
Date: 17 Sep 1999 07:17:57 -0600

I make a DOS boot disk under Windows 95, and booted with no
config.sys or autoexec.bat from a floppy, and makefcfg worked, so
the Win95 DOS must have DPMI services built in.

Last night I couldn't find an earlier version DOS boot disk, but I
must have one somewhere. The djgpp compiler comes with a
program called cwsdpmi.exe that provides DPMI services. It is
probably just a question of running this, however I can't test it until I
get a DOS environment with no DPMI.

What I may do it put the 22k program on my FTP site (it's free) and
let those of you who can't run makefcfg try it. I have only had two
reports.

Tim

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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) xfractint 310 - Linux ?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 17:34:55 -0600

Jim asked:

> What speed difference is there running it under Linux,
> does anyone know ?

The Linux version (at present) makes no use of assembly
language, and is probably quite a bit slower than the DOS version.

Our hope for the future is to get Fractint completely inside a 32 bit
memory environment and port some of the assembler for the most
critical bottlenecks for both Windows and Linux.

Tim



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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Does Soundblaster work?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 20:35:45 -0400

 << I followed the instructions in the demo and learned to make fractal
 <<sounds.

 <<I played with it for a couple of hours last night. I am now planning t=
o
use
 <<this Fractint function  in my own music. Might well be my new obsessio=
n.

Great! That's really nice to hear. Be sure to post some music pars.

Bill

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From: BILL RAY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Does Soundblaster work?
Date: 18 Sep 1999 01:45:15 -0400


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I have this peculiar situation - I can't get Fractint (any version) to
work without lots of visual noise (horizontal lines disrupting the images
in color cycling) so I have to re-boot to DOS.  Then Fractint works as
beautifully as it used to on my old machine 3 years ago (a Northgate 66mhz
with 8megs of ram).  But the music pars in Fractint 20 don't work in DOS.
When I go back into Windows 95 (I have a Dell 200mhz Pentium with 64megs
of ram) the music pars work beautifully, either in a DOS box or full
window.  I can't seem to get these two conditions to synchronize.  It
isn't a problem because, when I want to work visually, I boot to DOS.
When I want to work with the music pars I do it by calling Fractint up
directly in Windows.

When I type "set" at the DOS prompt the following line appears as the last
line in the display:
BLASTER= A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6 E620

I checked the instructions in the Creative manual and the settings above
should work in DOS as well as Windows 95 - but they apparently don't.  Has
anyone else encountered the same problem and can anyone give me a
suggestion or is this a vagary of my machine?

Thanks.  Bill Ray.

[e-mail] wrote:

> Hi Lionel,
>
> > Is Fractint designed for Soundblaster and
> >cards of that kind at all, or should this be regarded
> >as a bug?
>
>  I wrote the sound drivers from the original Soundblaster card
> documentation so an AWE32 should work as long as it's backward
> compatible with the old card as regards the FM synth. I haven't tested
> it on an AWE32 myself but believe it should work.... can anyone verify
> this?
>
> You could try checking the sound mixer control in windows,  try
> turning up all the controls and if you're using the windows standard
> mixer  then make sure you've checked out the mixer properties and have
> all possible controls enabled.
>
> Hope this helps,
>                        Robin.
>
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I have this peculiar situation - I can't get Fractint (any version) to
work without lots of visual noise (horizontal lines disrupting the images
in color cycling) so I have to re-boot to DOS.  Then Fractint works
as beautifully as it used to on my old machine 3 years ago (a Northgate
66mhz with 8megs of ram).  But the music pars in Fractint 20 don't
work in DOS.  When I go back into Windows 95 (I have a Dell 200mhz
Pentium with 64megs of ram) the music pars work beautifully, either in
a DOS box or full window.  I can't seem to get these two conditions
to synchronize.  It isn't a problem because, when I want to work visually,
I boot to DOS.  When I want to work with the music pars I do it by
calling Fractint up directly in Windows.
<p>When I type "set" at the DOS prompt the following line appears as the
last line in the display:
<br><b>BLASTER= A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6 E620</b><b></b>
<p>I checked the instructions in the Creative manual and the settings above
should work in DOS as well as Windows 95 - but they apparently don't.
Has anyone else encountered the same problem and can anyone give me a suggestion
or is this a vagary of my machine?
<p>Thanks.  Bill Ray.
<p>[e-mail] wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hi Lionel,
<p>> Is Fractint designed for Soundblaster and
<br>>cards of that kind at all, or should this be regarded
<br>>as a bug?
<p> I wrote the sound drivers from the original Soundblaster card
<br>documentation so an AWE32 should work as long as it's backward
<br>compatible with the old card as regards the FM synth. I haven't tested
<br>it on an AWE32 myself but believe it should work.... can anyone verify
<br>this?
<p>You could try checking the sound mixer control in windows,  try
<br>turning up all the controls and if you're using the windows standard
<br>mixer  then make sure you've checked out the mixer properties
and have
<br>all possible controls enabled.
<p>Hope this helps,
<br>
Robin.
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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Does Soundblaster work?
Date: 18 Sep 1999 00:18:12 -0700

At 01:45 AM 9/18/99 -0400, Bill Ray wrote:

>...
>But the music pars in Fractint 20 don't work in DOS.
>...
>When I type "set" at the DOS prompt the following line appears as the last
>line in the display:
>BLASTER= A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6 E620

Please don't be insulted, because you have probably tried
this, but: have you tried the "diagnose" command?  I have
an 80 MHz 486DX2 running Win 3.1 (which is irrelevent,
since I'm running in pure DOS mode) and the sound demo
and other random pars are working fine (although I get the
same polyphonic sounds whether I'm in x, y, or z mode).
"Diagnose" should suggest the proper settings for your
Soundblaster in DOS mode. Do you have any DOS games
you can run (for comparison)?


Good luck, Bud


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From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Contest French mirror
Date: 18 Sep 1999 10:20:56 +0200


Please, use only this address if you have to send me a mail about any
problem with the mirror (and send again your message here if you have no
reply from me).
I have a temporary problem with my other address.

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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Summer is ending, Fall approaches (2 pars)
Date: 18 Sep 1999 22:14:59 -0400


Greetings.

A word of explanation for the accompanying two pars.

ds57 was generated from an original image by Paul Carlson (1998):
Petals_Barnsley1. I made a slight change in the parameters, P1, P2 and max
iterations, and changed the focal area (for want of a better expression) by
recentering the image via the zoom box. The color map was originally Droz
38, but again I made a slight modificatioon for the purpose of this image.

ds58 was generated by evolver set at defaults from ds57.

Hope you like them, and hope no one is offended by the synthesis and
modifcations as indicated above.


ds57               { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 18, 1999 t=  0:06:34.36
                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768
                     ; Color map: Droz 38, slightly modified for this image.
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_p.frm
  formulaname=petals_barnsley1 passes=1
  corners=-0.771682992/-1.10764598/1.12084319/0.911969469/-0.79237028/1.14\
  842624 params=1/0.975/0.75/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253
  outside=summ
  colors=000<8>`A7dB7hD8<3>xHB<9>dA7b97`87<3>T55G00<9>hKAkMBnOC<3>zWG<24>P\
  63N52M42<3>G00WGG<8>nP6pQ5rR4<3>zW0<9>SF0OE0LC0<3>751C92<8>cQ3fS3iU4<3>v\
  `4<9>XM4VL3SJ3<2>KF3HD3G00<24>qPPsQQtRR<3>zWW<9>ZDDWBBU99<3>I11<9>hURkXU\
  n_W<3>xkf<9>fIGdFDbCA<3>W00G00<8>fSPiWSlZV<3>xkfigg<6>aKK`HH_DD<3>W00000\
  000
  }

ds58               { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 18, 1999 t=  0:08:50.09
                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768
                     ; Color map: Droz 38, slightly modified for this image.
                     ; Generated by Evolver from ds57
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_p.frm
  formulaname=petals_barnsley1 passes=1
  corners=-0.771682992/-1.10764598/1.12084319/0.911969469/-0.79237028/1.14\
  842624 params=0.9313638721884823/1.008722952970977/0.75/0/8/30
  float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000<8>`A7dB7hD8<3>xHB<9>dA7b97`87<3>T55G00<9>hKAkMBnOC<3>zWG<24>P\
  63N52M42<3>G00WGG<8>nP6pQ5rR4<3>zW0<9>SF0OE0LC0<3>751C92<8>cQ3fS3iU4<3>v\
  `4<9>XM4VL3SJ3<2>KF3HD3G00<24>qPPsQQtRR<3>zWW<9>ZDDWBBU99<3>I11<9>hURkXU\
  n_W<3>xkf<9>fIGdFDbCA<3>W00G00<8>fSPiWSlZV<3>xkfigg<6>aKK`HH_DD<3>W00000\
  000
  }





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From: "Benjamin S. Franzus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) DOS
Date: 19 Sep 1999 00:07:44 -0400

<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
I still have 6.22 DOS Setup disks.
<br>Suppose I could make copies if anyone wanted them.
<br>I still have Windows 3.1 Setup disks, also.
<br>I even have DOS games and 5.25 floppies,
<br>but I have no idea what's on them.
<br>
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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Chebyshev + evolver
Date: 20 Sep 1999 06:45:55 -0400

Below is a Chebyshev (ds60) and 3 more using evolver on ds60:

ds60               { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 20, 1999 t=  0:01:05.03
                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768
                     ; A Chebyshev
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_l.frm formulaname=l02-01
  passes=1 center-mag=0.609965/0.567151/3.20515 params=0.385/0.0015
  float=y maxiter=1000 inside=fmod outside=real decomp=256
  colors=000VAY<8>L5NK4MJ3L<2>G1IE0GF0H<16>X5WY6XZ6Y_7Za7Z<3>e8be8bd8a<25>\
  F2FE2ED1D<3>909100<29>G00H00H00<38>q54r54s54t54u54<4>w65w65w65w65w65w65<\
  2>w65l55a45303<13>505505505606<4>708708708708709809<18>B0DB0DB0D<3>D0ED0\
  FD0FD0FD0FE0G<2>L4NO6QQ7TT9WVAY<3>eHigIljKnlLq<15>WBZ
  }

ds61               { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 20, 1999 t=  0:00:45.42
                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768
                     ; A Chebyshev from ds60 using evolver.
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_l.frm formulaname=l02-01
  passes=1 center-mag=0.609965/0.567151/3.20515
  params=-0.5047061067537462/-0.03930324716940824 float=y maxiter=1000
  inside=fmod outside=real decomp=256
  colors=G1I<6>M2NN3OP3P<7>X5WY6XZ6Y_7Za7Z<3>e8be8bd8a<25>F2FE2ED1D<3>9091\
  00<29>G00H00H00<38>q54r54s54t54u54<4>w65w65w65w65w65w65<2>w65l55a45303<1\
  3>505505505606<4>708708708708709809<18>B0DB0DB0D<3>D0ED0FD0FD0FD0FE0G<2>\
  L4NO6QQ7TT9WVAY<3>eHigIljKnlLq<14>XC_WBZVAYU9XT9W<6>L5NK4MJ3L<2>G1IE0GF0\
  H
  }

ds62               { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 20, 1999 t=  0:01:24.26
                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768
                     ; A Chebyshev from ds60 using evolver.
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_l.frm formulaname=l02-01
  passes=1 center-mag=0.609965/0.567151/3.20515
  params=-0.3376477858821375/-0.1108996704000977 float=y maxiter=1000
  inside=fmod outside=real decomp=256
  colors=VAYVAY<8>L5NK4MJ3L<2>G1IE0GF0H<16>X5WY6XZ6Y_7Za7Z<3>e8be8bd8a<25>\
  F2FE2ED1D<3>909100<29>G00H00H00<38>q54r54s54t54u54<4>w65w65w65w65w65w65<\
  2>w65l55a45303<13>505505505606<4>708708708708709809<18>B0DB0DB0D<3>D0ED0\
  FD0FD0FD0FE0G<2>L4NO6QQ7TT9WVAY<3>eHigIljKnlLq<15>WBZ
  }

ds63               { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 20, 1999 t=  0:01:36.51
                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768
                     ; A Chebyshev from ds60 using evolver.
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_l.frm formulaname=l02-01
  passes=1 center-mag=0.609965/0.567151/3.20515
  params=0.3377268288216804/-0.2026993469038972 float=y maxiter=1000
  inside=fmod outside=real decomp=256
  colors=VAYVAY<8>L5NK4MJ3L<2>G1IE0GF0H<16>X5WY6XZ6Y_7Za7Z<3>e8be8bd8a<25>\
  F2FE2ED1D<3>909100<29>G00H00H00<38>q54r54s54t54u54<4>w65w65w65w65w65w65<\
  2>w65l55a45303<13>505505505606<4>708708708708709809<18>B0DB0DB0D<3>D0ED0\
  FD0FD0FD0FE0G<2>L4NO6QQ7TT9WVAY<3>eHigIljKnlLq<15>WBZ
  }






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From: "Ricardo M. Forno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) More on makefcfg
Date: 20 Sep 1999 10:07:50 -0300

Tim:
I also have a 486 with DOS (and Windows 3.11), and when I tried to use
makecfg, I got the same error message.
Cheers.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 10:17 AM


> I make a DOS boot disk under Windows 95, and booted with no
> config.sys or autoexec.bat from a floppy, and makefcfg worked, so
> the Win95 DOS must have DPMI services built in.
>
> Last night I couldn't find an earlier version DOS boot disk, but I
> must have one somewhere. The djgpp compiler comes with a
> program called cwsdpmi.exe that provides DPMI services. It is
> probably just a question of running this, however I can't test it until I
> get a DOS environment with no DPMI.
>
> What I may do it put the 22k program on my FTP site (it's free) and
> let those of you who can't run makefcfg try it. I have only had two
> reports.
>
> Tim
>
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From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) v20.0 - potential bug report
Date: 20 Sep 1999 22:41:39 -0700

Kerry Mitchell's starnear_man formula is misbehaving -
or at least behaving differently - under v20.0 compared
with v19.6.  Can anyone confirm this?


Bud


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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) v20.0 - potential bug report
Date: 21 Sep 1999 01:02:41 -0500

Mark (Bud) Christenson wrote:
>
> Kerry Mitchell's starnear_man formula is misbehaving -
> or at least behaving differently - under v20.0 compared
> with v19.6.  Can anyone confirm this?
>

Any particular PAR/s ??


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From: "Nemo Nox" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) fractint newbie questions
Date: 21 Sep 1999 03:30:00 -0300

Hi, All!

What better way to present yourself to the list than
a couple of newbie questions? <grin> So here they go...

* I have organized my FRM, IFS, L, MAP and PAR files,
each flavour in its own directory, and my SSTOOLS.INI
reflects this with the parameters FORMULAFILE, IFSFILE,
LFILE and PARMFILE. But how do I make Fractint find my
MAP files?

* I am used to RGB settings ranging from 0 to 255, and
the system used by Fractint still confuses me a bit. Are
there any translation tables available anywhere?

Well, I guess I have to warn you: if you show kindness
to newbies and answer to my questions, there is a big
chance I will send more. <grin> Thanks in advance!

Nemonoxian greetings,

Nemo Nox
http://nemonox.homepage.com/



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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) v20.0 - potential bug report
Date: 21 Sep 1999 06:27:57 -0400

At 01:02 AM 9/21/1999 -0500, you wrote:

>Mark (Bud) Christenson wrote:

>>

>> Kerry Mitchell's starnear_man formula is misbehaving -

>> or at least behaving differently - under v20.0 compared

>> with v19.6.  Can anyone confirm this?

>>

>

>Any particular PAR/s ??



I can confirm that there is a difference. Below are two pars. CAUTION:
(1) When pasting the pars the color lines were breaking as if not enough
room, although screen font size is "9" (New Courier), and number of
characters is set to 80. Should have been enough.  I have manually
widened the screen, how that will effect the reception as far as not
having the line split I am not sure.  (2) Note that in the second par I
have the formula file as "kmitchel.frm" rather than s.frm.


=================================================================================================


<fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param>ds67               { ;  (c)
David Shanholtzer Sep 21, 1999 t=  0:01:34.96

                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768

  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_s.frm formulaname=starnear_man

  center-mag=-1.905e-006/1.0165e-005/0.6666712 params=1/1/0.8/1

  float=y decomp=256


colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555<<3>HHHKKKOO\


O<<3>ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<<3>z0z<<3>z00<<3>zz0<<3>0z0<<3>0zz<<2>0GzVVz<<3>zVz<<3>zV\


V<<3>zzV<<3>VzV<<3>Vzz<<2>Vbzhhz<<3>zhz<<3>zhh<<3>zzh<<3>hzh<<3>hzz<<2>hlz00S<<3>S0\


S<<3>S00<<3>SS0<<3>0S0<<3>0SS<<2>07SEES<<3>SES<<3>SEE<<3>SSE<<3>ESE<<3>ESS<<2>EHSKK\


S<<2>QKSSKSSKQSKOSKMSKK<<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<<3>G0G<<3\


>G00<<3>GG0<<3>0G0<<3>0GG<<2>04G88G<<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<<2>GE8GG8EG8CG8AG88G\


8<<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<<2>GFBGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<<2>BGFBG\

  GBFGBDGBCG000<<6>000

  }


=========================================================================================


star               { ;  (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 21, 1999 t=
0:01:44.47

                     ;  P200 MMX 1024x768

  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=kmitchel.frm

  formulaname=starnear_man

  center-mag=-1.905e-006/1.0165e-005/0.6666712 params=1/1/0.8/1

  float=y decomp=256


colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555<<3>HHHKKKOO\


OSSSWWW___ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<<3>z0z<<3>z00<<3>zz0<<3>0z0<<3>0zz<<2>0GzVVz<<3>zV\


z<<3>zVV<<3>zzV<<3>VzV<<3>Vzz<<2>Vbzhhz<<3>zhz<<3>zhh<<3>zzh<<3>hzh<<3>hzz<<2>hlz00\


S<<3>S0S<<3>S00<<3>SS0<<3>0S0<<3>0SS<<2>07SEES<<3>SES<<3>SEE<<3>SSE<<3>ESE<<3>ESS<<2\


>EHSKKS<<2>QKSSKSSKQSKOSKMSKK<<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<<3\


>G0G<<3>G00<<3>GG0<<3>0G0<<3>0GG<<2>04G88G<<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<<2>GE8GG8EG8CG\


8AG88G8<<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<<2>GFBGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<<2\

  >BGFBGGBFGBDGBCG000<<6>000

  }






</fontfamily>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractint newbie questions
Date: 21 Sep 1999 11:07:28 -0400



Welcome to the list Nemo:

>>>* I have organized my FRM, IFS, L, MAP and PAR files,
each flavour in its own directory, and my SSTOOLS.INI
reflects this with the parameters FORMULAFILE, IFSFILE,
LFILE and PARMFILE. But how do I make Fractint find my
MAP files?<<<

The same way as FRM, IFS, etc., e.g.:
map=c:\fractint\mymaps

>>>* I am used to RGB settings ranging from 0 to 255, and
the system used by Fractint still confuses me a bit. Are
there any translation tables available anywhere?<<<

If you look inside a fractint MAP file you will notice that it defines colors in
0 to 255 RGB triplets as do most 24 bit systems. However, if you look more
closely you will see that all the numbers are divisible by 4. This gives you
only 262144 to choose from. This is the number of colors that were available on
the original VGA video cards for DOS. Also, as you probably already know,
fractint is limited to a pallete of only 256 colors at a time, so you will see
256 triplets in a map file. I don't think fractint will crash if you put a
number in a map file that is not divisible by 4 - it will just round it off.
Does this answer your question? If not, please email me.

Nick



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) evolver
Date: 21 Sep 1999 16:55:07 EDT

There is a new expression in fractint discussions *evolver*. Can anybody
please tell us oldfashioned 19.6 users what it means and what it is all about?
Thanks.
Marie-Luise Beyer

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From: "Ricardo M. Forno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) RE: Bug in the evolver
Date: 21 Sep 1999 17:56:38 -0300

Robin:
Did you receive the .par and the files I sent you some days ago?
Could you spot the problem?
Thanks again.
----- Original Message -----
Cc: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 11:08 PM


>
> Hi Ricardo,
>
> >Once the thumbnails where displayed, I typed Ctrl-E to change "yes"
> >to "no" in order to see the image,
>
> BTW, 'b' works as a shortcut for this whilst in the evolver.
>
> >without having moved to some other thumbnail.
> Hmmmm.. does the same happen if you move to another and then back
> again?
>
> >The image was totally changed, but when typing z, the parameters
> >strangely were the same as the initial ones!
>
> Now that is very bizzare, though you should also check the x screen to
> see
> that some radically different inside or outside colouring method hasn't
> been selected.
>
> If you can make this happen consistantly then it would help me sort
> things out if you could mail me a par for the starting image or if you
> hit S just after the first set of images is generated and then mail me
> the file that was saved.
>
> Cheers,
>          Robin.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (fractint) RE: Bug in the evolver
Date: 22 Sep 1999 0:29 0000

Hi Ricardo,

>Did you receive the .par and the files I sent you some days ago?
>Could you spot the problem?

Yep, thanks,  I haven't had a chance to go bug hunting yet though but
rest assured I'll get round to it soon, have you found any similar
probems since or is it just that one image?

Cheers,
         Robin.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (fractint) evolver
Date: 22 Sep 1999 0:19 0000


Hi Marie,

>There is a new expression in fractint discussions *evolver*. Can
anybody
>please tell us oldfashioned 19.6 users what it means and what it is all
about?

The evolver (or parameter evolver / explorer to give it it's full title) is a
new addition to fractint which enables the erstwhile fractanaut to map
out the effects of changing parameters on a fractal.
It will put onscreen many small versions of the base image with
parameters changed so that the user can explore the way in which
the fractal varies when things are changed on the X,Y,Z menus.
This can be done in an orderly fashion with parameters varying
smoothly
across the screen to form a map of parameter space which can be
zoomed
into and explored.
Alternatively there is evolving mode where everything is varied at
random and the user just needs to pick the image variation that they
like the best to use as the seed for another generation of images.
Things can be set up so that the amout of random mutation from one
generation to the next is reduced in order to fine tune things.

The evolver is really best seen rather than explained so why not
download
v20.0 now and check out the demos included!

Hope this tempts you :-)
                                 Robin.



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From: "Eu" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Contest
Date: 12 Apr 1999 21:21:46 -0300



> HI, Damien.
> The pages are great, but is there a more simple way to download the entire
> site? In college, where I have a fast conection, I don┤t have permission
to
> isntall Getright or other progs, couldn┤t you zip the categories and put a
> link to it? I really wnat to vote, but conection time here in Brazil is
> still expensive :-).
> But it┤s just a suggestion.
> I really enjoye the site!
>
> Bresslau
>
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From: "Eu" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fw: sound pars
Date: 21 Sep 1999 21:31:40 -0300

 I just managed to setup sound on my system, and liked the sound-demo. Has
 anybody spent some time in a sound par? Could someone send me one so I can
 hear what fractint is capable of?
 Thanks from Brazil,
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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest
Date: 21 Sep 1999 19:57:02 -0500

Bresslau,

>> The pages are great, but is there a more simple way to download the
>> entire site?

Yes, as soon as I get the CD set up, burned, and mailed out to the
volunteer duplicators, I can get the files zipped up and available for
download. It's a big download, too; 75M when all zipped together.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  Fractalus Galleries & Info:
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

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in a newsgroup.  Thank you.

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest
Date: 21 Sep 1999 20:24:46 -0500

Greetings folks,

A few technical problems with the marking/unmarking mechanism, especially
with regards to Netscape, have been fixed. Thanks to several people (but
especially Ken Childress) for bringing these problems to my attention.

Voting is now fully functional. You may submit your votes and you should
receive a confirmation code via e-mail. You must then mail back that
confirmation code for your vote to be registered.

CDs will be sent out to volunteer duplicators tomorrow, so they should
start appearing in mailboxes next week. Several people have ordered, I will
see if I can start confirming receipt of these tomorrow.

Damien M. Jones   \\
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                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

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in a newsgroup.  Thank you.

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From: "Nemo Nox" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) maps
Date: 22 Sep 1999 00:41:01 -0300


Nick wrote:
>Welcome to the list Nemo:

Thanks!

>The same way as FRM, IFS, etc., e.g.:
>map=c:\fractint\mymaps

Aha! That's not in the docs. I tried to follow the
pattern and used MAPFILE=c:\fractint\mymaps but it
didn't work, of course. Now it's fixed, thanks!

>If you look inside a fractint MAP file you will
>notice that it defines colors in 0 to 255 RGB
>triplets as do most 24 bit systems. However, if
>you look more closely you will see that all the
>numbers are divisible by 4. <snip> Does this
>answer your question? If not, please email me.

Actually, it didn't. But thanks anyway. I think
I have found a solution to my problem: a program
called Map Generator, which allows me to enter
the colours in familiar 0-255 RGB mode and then
outputs the map to Fractint format. Do you know it?

Nemonoxian greetings,

Nemo Nox
http://nemonox.homepage.com/



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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) maps
Date: 21 Sep 1999 23:29:41 -0500

Nemo Nox wrote:
>
> I have found a solution to my problem: a program
> called Map Generator, which allows me to enter
> the colours in familiar 0-255 RGB mode and then
> outputs the map to Fractint format. Do you know it?
>

You might also try Ron Barnett's utility program "MakeMap".

There is a useful list of information found at:

    http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/Resource.htm

P.N.L.
http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go

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From: "Nemo Nox" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) MakeMap
Date: 22 Sep 1999 01:58:36 -0300


Paul N. Lee wrote:
>You might also try Ron Barnett's utility program "MakeMap".
>There is a useful list of information found at:
>http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/Resource.htm

I have tried that, but the link to MakeMap
(http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001/makemap.zip)
leads to an error message. Thanks anyway.

Nemonoxian greetings,

Nemo Nox
http://nemonox.homepage.com/



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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) evolver
Date: 22 Sep 1999 02:09:28 -0400

Marie,

The best way to find out about the evolver is to run the demo - demo.bat =
-
that is included in the new Fractint20. While you're at it, you might giv=
e
the sound demo a try as well <g>

Bill

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From: "Marie Drozdis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) maps
Date: 22 Sep 1999 09:45:32 -0700

Paul, I've been looking for Ron Barnett's MakeMap since I lost it in the
Great Crash of '98. (My backup disk wouldn't copy, either. It was corrupted,
maybe from age?)   Following the links on the site you mentioned doesn't
lead to the program. Clicking on Barnett's link, it says that it can't be
found.  I couldn't find it on CompuServe, either.

Making maps is one of my pleasures with Fractint.  I really would like to
replace MakeMap in my collection of programs. It was effective, yet simple
enough to use for the newbie I was then.

Well, back to the search for it.

Marie  :)
[e-mail]

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Paul N. Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 9:30 PM


Nemo Nox wrote:
>
> I have found a solution to my problem: a program
> called Map Generator, which allows me to enter
> the colours in familiar 0-255 RGB mode and then
> outputs the map to Fractint format. Do you know it?
>

You might also try Ron Barnett's utility program "MakeMap".

There is a useful list of information found at:

    http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/Resource.htm

P.N.L.



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From: "Marie Drozdis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) evolver
Date: 22 Sep 1999 09:50:08 -0700

Bill, giving the sound demo a try was a BIG mistake!

Between making and playing your music, and watching new fractals evolve,
I've not been able to get back to the basics.

The music is a wonderful addition.  I've been running the program whenever I
have a free moment, and even when I don't<G>

Marie :)

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Bill Jemison
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 11:09 PM


Marie,

The best way to find out about the evolver is to run the demo - demo.bat -
that is included in the new Fractint20. While you're at it, you might give
the sound demo a try as well <g>

Bill

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From: Diosnel Herrnsdorf <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) maps
Date: 22 Sep 1999 10:19:31 -0300

Marie Drozdis escribi=F3:
>=20
> Paul, I've been looking for Ron Barnett's MakeMap since I lost it in th=
e
> Great Crash of '98. (My backup disk wouldn't copy, either. It was corru=
pted,
> maybe from age?)   Following the links on the site you mentioned doesn'=
t
> lead to the program. Clicking on Barnett's link, it says that it can't =
be
> found.  I couldn't find it on CompuServe, either.

I have a copy of Mapeng2.zip, a map generator. If you want you can ask
for it (privately), and I'll mail it to you. However, if you prefer to
download it from the web, go to http://members.tripod.com/softwork/map.
The program was writen by an Italian guy:
Paolo Guagliumi
Strada Braia, 13
15030 - Terruggia - (AL)
E-Mail: [e-mail]

Best regards,

Diosnel

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (fractint) maps
Date: 22 Sep 1999 10:19:22 -0400



Marie wrote:

>>> Paul, I've been looking for Ron Barnett's MakeMap since I lost it in the
Great Crash of '98. (My backup disk wouldn't copy, either. It was corrupted,
maybe from age?)   Following the links on the site you mentioned doesn't
lead to the program. Clicking on Barnett's link, it says that it can't be
found.  I couldn't find it on CompuServe, either. <<<

His new web site is at:
http://www.hiddendimension.com/index.htm

Nick



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From: "Marie Drozdis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) maps
Date: 22 Sep 1999 10:36:39 -0700

Thanks to all who directed me to the MakeMap program file.

I didn't expect such quick results from my message.  The program is safely
ensconced on my drive now.

Marie :)




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From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fw: sound pars
Date: 22 Sep 1999 11:45:19 -0400

Hi Bresslau,

>>  I just managed to setup sound on my system, and liked the sound-demo.=

>> Has anybody spent some time in a sound par? Could someone send me one
>> so I can hear what fractint is capable of?

  fract200.par has nine music pars.

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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From: John Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Another useful color utility
Date: 22 Sep 1999 08:50:04 -0700

 A friend pointed me to this useful little color utility,
 DotColor, which  picks colors from *any* screen.  It's great,
 once you figure out how to use it, and close it.  (No
 instructions, but it's FREE)  Get it from:

 http://www.inetis.com/english/solutions_dotcolor.htm

  John W.                            mailto:[e-mail]



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From: "Ricardo M. Forno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) RE: Bug in the evolver
Date: 22 Sep 1999 13:02:29 -0300

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF04FA.BA09C200
Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi, Robin.
Yes, there are some other pars with similar problems.
I am attaching another one.
Thanks again.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 12:29 AM


> Hi Ricardo,
>
> >Did you receive the .par and the files I sent you some days ago?
> >Could you spot the problem?
>
> Yep, thanks,  I haven't had a chance to go bug hunting yet though but
> rest assured I'll get round to it soon, have you found any similar
> probems since or is it just that one image?
>
> Cheers,
>          Robin.
>
>
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF04FA.BA09C200
Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
    name="agatha.par"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: attachment;
    filename="agatha.par"


Agatha             { ; R. Forno
  reset=1960 type=fn(z)+fn(pix) function=asinh/sqr
  corners=-1.002528/0.9833536/1.311123/-1.33672/0.9833536/-1.33672
  params=5/-7/0.6/5.9 float=y maxiter=512 inside=bof60 logmap=yes
  distest=1/71/1024/768 periodicity=-1
  colors=0000z0<15>000<15>00y<12>007003000<16>z0W<13>803401000<2>A0AD0EH0I\
  K0MN0P<8>p0v<12>A0A707303000443<14>zzy<15>000L00<13>z00<2>p00l00h00d00a0\
  0<9>000<15>zX0<15>000<15>ut0<15>000GA3<12>2v0 cyclerange=0/255
  }

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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fw: sound pars
Date: 22 Sep 1999 12:25:49 -0400

Bresslau,

Have you looked at the fract200.par which is included w/fractint20? It ha=
s
several music pars which should get you started.

Bill

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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) sound
Date: 22 Sep 1999 12:52:19 -0400

Marie,

 <<...giving the sound demo a try was a BIG mistake! >>

:)))

 << The music is a wonderful addition. >>

I agree wholeheartedly! Robin Bussel and Jonathan Osuch deserve a ton of
credit and thanks for making this feature happen.

And, of course, Tim, whose visionary creativity long ago provided for a w=
ay
for a sight-impaired fractal fan to experience chaos in another dimension=
.

Long Live Fractint!!!

Bill

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From: Lynda Sweetman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fw: sound pars
Date: 22 Sep 1999 15:27:17 -0400



Bill Jemison wrote:
>
> Bresslau,
>
> Have you looked at the fract200.par which is included w/fractint20? It has
> several music pars which should get you started.
>
> Bill


Sound pars 4 and 5 are very ambient and nice. How do you export a sound
par file into a MIDI format?  I would like to open them in Media Player
or a suitable sequencing program.
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) maps
Date: 22 Sep 1999 16:04:59 -0400



Hello again Nemo,

You wrote:

>>> Actually, it didn't. But thanks anyway. I think
I have found a solution to my problem: a program
called Map Generator, which allows me to enter
the colours in familiar 0-255 RGB mode and then
outputs the map to Fractint format. Do you know it?<<<

There are several programs that generate fractint maps, try these links:

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/9943/
http://www.hiddendimension.com/futils.htm
http://members.tripod.com/softwork/map

The map editor that is built into fractint allows you to create maps by directly
entering numbers, however I think you enter numbers between 0 - 63, for example,
if you enter 10  20  30, it will actually write 40  80 120 to the map file, so
this is probably not what you want.

Nick



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From: "Nemo Nox" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) maps
Date: 22 Sep 1999 23:44:54 -0300


Nick Grasso wrote:
>There are several programs that generate
>fractint maps, try these links:
>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/9943/
>http://www.hiddendimension.com/futils.htm
>http://members.tripod.com/softwork/map

My thanks to all who sent me hints on how to get
map editting programs. I have downloaded them all
and so far I am enjoying MakeMap and MapGenerator
the most. Perhaps some day I'll be brave enough
to show my fractals to the list. :-)

Nemonoxian greetings,

Nemo Nox
http://nemonox.homepage.com/




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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) v20.0 - potential bug report
Date: 23 Sep 1999 18:42:25 +1200

At 06:27 21/09/1999 -0400, davides wrote:
>
>I can
>confirm
>that
>there is a difference. Below are two pars. CAUTION:
>(1)
>When
>pasting the
>pars the color lines were breaking as if not
>enough
>room,
>although screen
>font size is "9" (New Courier), and number
>of
>characters is
>set to 80.
>Should have been enough.  I have manually
>widened the screen,
>how that
>will effect the reception as far as not
>having the line split I am
>not
>sure.
>
The Internet convention on text line widths is 72 characters/line. Since
your pars came through XML-formatted, though, they were received in times
roman (and too wide for the default width on my email client). (I have no
idea why the reply is linebreaked like that).



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From: "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fw: sound pars
Date: 22 Sep 1999 21:19:56 -0300

Thanks every one to pointing me to fract200.par. And Linda has a good
question I heard elsewhere on the list. I tried to record with windows
recorder when I was generating music in diskvideo mode in a dos box, but it
didn┤t work. My soundcard is duplex (or something simmilar) and I heard this
should work. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Bresslau.


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From: "Terry Erickson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Hi and ALOHA!
Date: 23 Sep 1999 13:37:27 -0700

That is Hawaiian - my favorite word for greetings and love. MAHALO means
thank you for all the blood(?), sweat and tears, you guys -you know who you
are- !
I'm saying ALOHA and Mahalo nui loa to all you folks who are using computers
to make beautiful things, even if the beautiful things are no more than
fantastical arrays of bits and bytes, and especially if the beautiful things
become something greater.
It's good to be on the creative side of the computer-human interface.
I do have a question.
Are there any advantages to running Fractint on WinDOS, as I call it, or, I
mean,
Will I miss out on anything if I reformat my little 486 and install DOS 6.22
on it for Fractint?
Aloha and Mahalo again.
Terry
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) fractint evolver
Date: 23 Sep 1999 17:00:37 EDT

Robin wrote:
> ...
> The evolver is really best seen rather than explained so why not download=20
V20.0=20
> now and check out the demos included!
> Hope this tempts you :-)
> Robin.

Many thanks to Robin for his detailed explanation of the evolver. It seems t=
o=20
be a very useful tool. I am sure many other members will read Robin=E2=80=99=
s letter=20
with interest.=20
Thanks to Bill Jemison who also encouraged me to try V20.0.

Marie-Luise

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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fw: sound pars
Date: 23 Sep 1999 18:13:42 -0400

Bresslau,

 << I tried to record with windows recorder when I was generating music i=
n
 <<diskvideo mode in a dos box, but it didn't work. =


That works fine for me.

Have you tried the same recorder with another source?

More than likely, you need to check your mixer
settings, and see what the record section is monitoring. Playback and
record are not *necessarily* set to the same functionality. See if your
recorder app can be set to record the "wave" or "what-you-hear" or =

something similar.

What type (brand) soundcard do you have? Did it come with any software?
Mixer or Control Center or something similar?

One other thing came to mind. In the file you are playing, what do you ha=
ve
the ^F settings for sound at? Is the soundcard option set to yes? and
showorbits to yes? For the purpose of testing, make sure the PC speaker i=
s
off.

Unless you have your PC speaker routed through your soundcard, the window=
s =

recorder - or any other for that matter - will not even know it's there.
So for testing just make sure that the sound you are hearing is coming =

through the sound card, and not your PC speaker.

Bill

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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Luc-Andr=E9_Rey?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) ?
Date: 24 Sep 1999 00:29:58 +0200

Hello,
(Sorry for my bad english)


I maintain a little site.
Every month, i invite a fractal artist (lee skinner, sylvie gallet...)
I hope that you accept the third place...

Luc-Andre Rey
http://www.aour.ch



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From: "Brian E. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) ?
Date: 23 Sep 1999 19:26:13 -0400

Hi Luc-Andre,

I accept 3rd place to Sylvie and Lee.  8^)

I really haven't made my new galleries public, but you can have a look at:

http://www.fractalfusion.com/

Be sure to check out the fractal music as well, guaranteed to be unlike any you've ever heard.

Regards,

Brian E. Jones
--
www.fractalfusion.com


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From: "Les St Clair" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Evolver-Crazy! (Pars)
Date: 25 Sep 1999 10:06:57 +0100

Hi folks,

Here's a good starting point for evolver...

If you've not tried this new feature of v20.0 just load up the par then press
Alt-1.
Also try Alt-2, 3, 4 etc. to vary the degree of randomness

Have fun,
Les

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                     ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200
                     ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 21, 1999]
                     ; e-mail to: [e-mail]
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  passes=1 center-mag=3.785e-006/-9.25e-007/1.718212
  params=0.4/0/2/1.1/0.5/-0.6 float=y maxiter=255 inside=0 decomp=256
  periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255
  colors=yd4<3>ym1zp0zs0zw0zz0<4>ye1ya1yY1<3>xH2<9>N61J51F41<3>000<4>000<2\
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  1P`1Pa<3>1Sc1Sd1Te<3>4Ve4Wf5Wf6Xf7Xf<43>nsbotbptb<2>svbtwbuwd<2>zzm<3>oj\
  jlfiibhfZgcUf<3>OIQKFMGCH<3>000<4>000<3>000UUU___oie<3>i_XhXVfVS<3>bLK`I\
  I_GF<3>T55<9>kA9mB9oBA<2>uDBwECwGC<8>xa5
  savename=ecrazy00 }


p.s. here's a few examples of what I found using the above staring point:


eCrazy_09          { ;                                      t=  0:03:31.19
                     ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200
                     ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 21, 1999]
                     ; e-mail to: [e-mail]
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  passes=1 center-mag=3.785e-006/-9.25e-007/4.850143
  params=2.485726493118076/-0.5058442945646535/-0.6079592272713401/-1.2818\
  17072054201/-0.1911526841029084/1.14001281777398 float=y maxiter=255
  inside=epsiloncross decomp=256 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255
  colors=0EK<18>1O_1P`1Pa<3>1Sc1Sd1Te<3>4Ve4Wf5Wf6Xf7Xf<43>nsbotbptb<2>svb\
  twbuwd<2>zzm<3>ojjlfiibhfZgcUf<3>OIQKFMGCH<3>000<4>000<3>000UUU___oie<3>\
  i_XhXVfVS<3>bLK`II_GF<3>T55<9>kA9mB9oBA<2>uDBwECwGC<10>yf3yi3yk2ym1<3>zz\
  0<4>ye1ya1yY1<3>xH2<9>N61J51F41<3>000<4>000<2>000<3>D08H0AJ09<3>T05V04Y0\
  3<2>d00<20>K6GJ6HI6H<2>F7JD8KA9J<2>0BG<3>0DJ
  savename=ecrazy09 }

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                     ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200
                     ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 24, 1999]
                     ; e-mail to: [e-mail]
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=gallet-5-01
  passes=1 center-mag=-0.27377/-0.47645/2.686313/1/30
  params=5.611706900234992/3.64098025452437/4.324045533616139/0.3712179937\
  131872/-2.790322580645161/-0.8563554795983765 float=y maxiter=255
  inside=zmag outside=mult decomp=16 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255
  colors=000000000<2>A06D09G0D<7>f0di0hl0k<3>z1z<9>`4XZ4UW4R<2>O5IL6FK6G<3\
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  1<3>zz0<4>ye1ya1yY1<3>xH2<9>N61J51F41<3>000<4>000
  savename=ecrazy32 }

eCrazy_38          { ;                                      t=  0:01:39.80
                     ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200
                     ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 24, 1999]
                     ; e-mail to: [e-mail]
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  passes=1 center-mag=3.785e-006/-0.0196682/0.7762744
  params=6.353032013916441/12.0467848750267/2.13907284768212/4.08242133854\
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  inside=atan decomp=32 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255
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  >000<4>000<3>000UUU___oie<3>i_XhXVfVS<5>_GF
  savename=ecrazy38 }

eCrazy_40          { ;                                      t=  0:02:50.22
                     ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200
                     ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 24, 1999]
                     ; e-mail to: [e-mail]
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  passes=1 center-mag=0.167536/-0.0196682/0.2513269
  params=1.942802209540087/13.62849818414868/-0.229377117221594/2.46820581\
  6827906/0.3344676046021915/-2.84420911282693 float=y maxiter=255
  inside=atan outside=mult decomp=64 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255
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  zzm<3>ojjlfiibhfZgcUf<3>OIQKFMGCH<3>000<4>000<3>000UUU___oie<3>i_XhXVfVS\
  <3>bLK`II_GF<3>T55<9>kA9mB9oBA<2>uDBwECwGC<9>yd4
  savename=ecrazy40 }

eCrazy_41          { ;                                      t=  0:03:04.16
                     ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200
                     ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 24, 1999]
                     ; e-mail to: [e-mail]
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  passes=1 center-mag=-0.402519/0.668329/1.840198
  params=3.366399121066928/13.46195867793817/1.440321054719689/3.303100680\
  562761/-0.9633320108645891/-2.984197515793329 float=y maxiter=255
  inside=atan outside=imag decomp=128 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255
  colors=A9J<2>0BG<23>1O_1P`1Pa<3>1Sc1Sd1Te<3>4Ve4Wf5Wf6Xf7Xf<43>nsbotbptb\
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  savename=ecrazy41 }

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                     ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200
                     ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 24, 1999]
                     ; e-mail to: [e-mail]
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  inside=atan outside=imag decomp=128 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255
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  0hl0k<3>z1z<9>`4XZ4UW4R<2>O5IL6FK6GJ6H
  savename=ecrazy42 }

eCrazy_45          { ;                                      t=  0:01:48.75
                     ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200
                     ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 24, 1999]
                     ; e-mail to: [e-mail]
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=gallet-5-01
  passes=1 center-mag=-0.471023/0.75893/2.007066
  params=3.485146641438032/12.68730735190893/6.052705465865047/-1.59896542\
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  inside=zmag outside=real decomp=64 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255
  colors=Z76<6>kA9mB9oBA<2>uDBwECwGC<10>yf3yi3yk2ym1<3>zz0<4>ye1ya1yY1<3>x\
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  4>T55V65X66
  savename=ecrazy45 }

eCrazy_48          { ;                                      t=  0:04:01.56
                     ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200
                     ; (c) 1999 by Les St Clair [Par date: Sep 25, 1999]
                     ; e-mail to: [e-mail]
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=gallet-5-01
  passes=1 center-mag=3.785e-006/-9.25e-007/2.370135
  params=3.569377727591785/-2.550279244361706/4.755912961210974/-5.0136204\
  10779137/-1.625461592455824/0.5893978698080385 float=y maxiter=255
  inside=bof61 decomp=256 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255
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  wbuwd
  savename=ecrazy48 }


frm:Gallet-5-01 {; Sylvie Gallet [101324,3444], 1996
  sq3 = sqrt(3), sq32 = 0.5*sq3, l = real(p1), h = l*sq32, l3 = 3*l
  h2 = 2*h, h3 = 3*h, h4 = h2 + h2, l15 = 0.5*l3
  c1 = 0.5*l + flip(h), c2 = l, rot = -0.5 + flip(sq32)
  y = imag(pixel), x = real(pixel) - y/sq3
  y = y - floor(y/h3)*h3, x = x - floor(x/l3)*l3 + y/sq3
  d = 0.5*y + sq32*x - h3, x = x - d*sq3*(d>0), y = y - d*(d>0)
  y = y - h2*(y>h2)
  t = y < sq3*x-h4, x = x - l15*t, y = y + h*t
  q1 = abs(floor(y / h))
  d2 = -sq32*x + 0.5*y, q2 = abs(floor(d2 / h))
  d3 = sq32*x + 0.5*y - h, q3 = abs(floor(d3 / h))
  q = q1 + q2 + q3, odd = q != 2*floor(q/2)
  y = y*(odd==0) + (h2-y)*odd
  t = y > -sq3*x + h4, x = x - l15*t, y = y - h*t
  z = x + flip(y), z = z * (y<=h) + ((z-c1)*conj(rot) + c1) * (y>h)
  x = real(z), z = z * (x<l) + ((z-c2)*rot + c2) * (x>=l)
  z = c = p2*z + p3 :
   z = z*z + c
    |z| <= 4
  ;SOURCE: gallet-5.frm
}






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) Parameter Explorer question
Date: 26 Sep 1999 12:22:45 -0400

Please forgive me if this question has already been asked. I have just
set up the new Fractint and I am extremely impressed with the Parameter
Explorer feature. I have one question. Say I have generated a screenful
of image windows, and there are two or three that I desperately wish to
see and/or save. As far as I can tell, I only have the option of looking
at and saving one small window, and the others are gone for all time. Is
there a way to investigate more than one window per screen? Thank
you.--Alice
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From: "Les St Clair" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Parameter Explorer question
Date: 26 Sep 1999 19:48:39 +0100

Hi Alice,

> Say I have generated a screenful
> of image windows, and there are two or three that I desperately wish to
> see and/or save. As far as I can tell, I only have the option of looking
> at and saving one small window, and the others are gone for all time. Is
> there a way to investigate more than one window per screen?

Good news (and bad news)...

Just save the Evolver screen as you would a normal image. When you restore the
image you can carry on and explore any of the cells you wish.

The bad news, however, is that sometimes (in my experience) the restored screen
starts mutating all over again and there is no chance of getting back any of the
images! This happens to about one in four of the evolver screens that I save. I
should report this as a bug (Robin are you reading??).

cheers, Les


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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Parameter Explorer question
Date: 26 Sep 1999 14:15:34 -0600

Les wrote:

> The bad news, however, is that sometimes (in my experience) the restored screen
> starts mutating all over again and there is no chance of getting back any of the
> images! This happens to about one in four of the evolver screens that I save. I
> should report this as a bug (Robin are you reading??).

Please report this to the bug report web page. It's OK to discuss
bugs here but don't assume that discussing them here means we
see the messages. (Very often we don't read all the messages.)

The bug report page is:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm

Tim


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (fractint) Parameter Explorer question
Date: 26 Sep 1999 23:27 0000


Hi Alice,
>Is there a way to investigate more than one window per screen?

Yep, if you hit 'S'  when a selection box isn't showing, i.e. before hitting
pageup, you should save the whole set and be able to reload it later to
carry on exploring the parameter space.

Hope this helps,
                        Robin.


P.S. I'm thinking of adding the capability of storing the evolver details
in
a par file, could be useful :-)





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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) v20.0 - potential bug report
Date: 26 Sep 1999 18:53:45 -0600

Mark wrote:

> Kerry Mitchell's starnear_man formula is misbehaving -
> or at least behaving differently - under v20.0 compared
> with v19.6.  Can anyone confirm this?

I have traced this down to an optimization we made to the fast
(assembler) parser. We can fix this by backing out the
optimization. Meanwhile adding the debug=90 option works around
the bug by disabling the fast parser.

I also want to do some tests of complex formulas that aren't broken
to see if the optimization buys us much speed.

Thanks very much to Mark and Kerry. I'd very much like to hear of
any other formulas that behave differently between 19.6 and 20.0.

Tim


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From: "Les St Clair" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Parameter Explorer question
Date: 27 Sep 1999 01:30:17 +0100

> The bug report page is:
>
> http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm

Thank you Tim.
Noted and reported!

- Les


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From: Thore Berntsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.
Date: 27 Sep 1999 07:55:57 +0200

Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays images
that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars Fracint
shall play.

Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at

http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm
<http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm>

This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I have tested
it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better than earlier.

I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the save
images/screens option.

If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell me if
You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if You
liked it or not...)


Thore Berntsen
Norway
Email [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>





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From: Randall Britten <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.
Date: 27 Sep 1999 10:06:57 +0200

The download link doesn't work. (Not Found 404)

http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.zip


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thore Berntsen [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Monday 27 September 1999 07:56
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.
>
>
> Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays images
> that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars Fracint
> shall play.
>
> Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at
>
http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm
<http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm>

This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I have tested
it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better than earlier.

I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the save
images/screens option.

If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell me if
You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if You
liked it or not...)


Thore Berntsen
Norway
Email [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>





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From: BILL RAY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.
Date: 27 Sep 1999 04:15:14 -0400

Sorry to tell you but the site does not work for me - I do not speak
Norwegian and apparently the site has nothing to do with Fractint anyway.
Probably a simple typo.

Thore Berntsen wrote:

> Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays images
> that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars Fracint
> shall play.
>
> Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at
>
> http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm
> <http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm>
>
> This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I have tested
> it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better than earlier.
>
> I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the save
> images/screens option.
>
> If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell me if
> You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if You
> liked it or not...)
>
> Thore Berntsen
> Norway
> Email [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>
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From: Randall Britten <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.
Date: 27 Sep 1999 10:31:54 +0200

Seems to be fixed now.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thore Berntsen [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Monday 27 September 1999 07:56
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.
>
>
> Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays images
> that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars Fracint
> shall play.
>
> Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at
>
> http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm
> <http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm>
>
> This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I
> have tested
> it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better
> than earlier.
>
> I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the save
> images/screens option.
>
> If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell me if
> You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if You
> liked it or not...)
>
>
> Thore Berntsen
> Norway
> Email [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Thore Berntsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.
Date: 27 Sep 1999 10:27:16 +0200

This should be fixed now. Can You tell me if it still not works.
Thore

    -----Original Message-----
    From:    BILL RAY [SMTP:[e-mail]]
    Sent:    27. september 1999 10:15
    To:    [e-mail]
    Subject:    Re: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version
2.00 released.

    Sorry to tell you but the site does not work for me - I do not
speak
    Norwegian and apparently the site has nothing to do with
Fractint anyway.
    Probably a simple typo.

    Thore Berntsen wrote:

    > Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays
images
    > that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars
Fracint
    > shall play.
    >
    > Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at
    >
    > http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm
    > <http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm>
    >
    > This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I
have tested
    > it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better than
earlier.
    >
    > I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be
the save
    > images/screens option.
    >
    > If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please
tell me if
    > You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me
if You
    > liked it or not...)
    >
    > Thore Berntsen
    > Norway
    > Email [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
    >
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From: Thore Berntsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.
Date: 27 Sep 1999 10:15:25 +0200

Oops, I must have uploaded it too early in the morning. It should work
now. Thanks for telling me about this problem!

Thore

    -----Original Message-----
    From:    Randall Britten [SMTP:[e-mail]]
    Sent:    27. september 1999 10:07
    To:    [e-mail]
    Subject:    RE: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version
2.00 released.

    The download link doesn't work. (Not Found 404)

    http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.zip


    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Thore Berntsen [mailto:[e-mail]]
    > Sent: Monday 27 September 1999 07:56
    > To: [e-mail]
    > Subject: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00
released.
    >
    >
    > Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays
images
    > that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars
Fracint
    > shall play.
    >
    > Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at
    >
    http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm
    <http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm>

    This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I
have tested
    it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better than
earlier.

    I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the
save
    images/screens option.

    If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell
me if
    You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if
You
    liked it or not...)


    Thore Berntsen
    Norway
    Email [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>





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From: "Andrew Coppin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fw: sound pars
Date: 27 Sep 1999 11:05:33 GMT

> Date:          Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:27:17 -0400
> From:          Lynda Sweetman <[e-mail]>
> To:            [e-mail]
> Subject:       Re: (fractint) Fw: sound pars
> Reply-to:      [e-mail]

>
>
> Bill Jemison wrote:
> >
> > Bresslau,
> >
> > Have you looked at the fract200.par which is included w/fractint20? It has
> > several music pars which should get you started.
> >
> > Bill
>
>
> Sound pars 4 and 5 are very ambient and nice. How do you export a sound
> par file into a MIDI format?  I would like to open them in Media Player
> or a suitable sequencing program.

If any of the FractInt developers are interested, I know what you
need to send down a MIDI cable to get notes to play. I don't know how
to operate a PC's MIDI hardware/software, and I don't know the MIDI
file format, but I know what binary signals are needed. Anyone
interested?

Nam et ipsa scientia potestus est!
(Sir Francis Bacon)
Andrew Orphi Coppin
DMU MK.

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From: "Andrew Coppin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Magic Image
Date: 27 Sep 1999 12:57:22 GMT

I went through one of the many internet fractal galleries, and found
this image:

http://members.aol.com/gallets2/g9812302.jpg

Does anyone know what colouring algorithm was used to create this
thing? It looks like an M set, but I don't recognize the colour
method...

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(Sir Francis Bacon)
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From: "Ricardo M. Forno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) An interesting screen saver
Date: 27 Sep 1999 10:32:51 -0300

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Tim:
I found this free screen saver on an old CD-ROM. I think the type of fractal
it uses would be a nice addition to fractint, if someone knows how to
program it.
Cheers.

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Magic Image
Date: 27 Sep 1999 09:20:35 -0500

Andrew,

 - I went through one of the many internet fractal galleries, and found
 - this image:
 -
 - http://members.aol.com/gallets2/g9812302.jpg
 -
 - Does anyone know what colouring algorithm was used to create this
 - thing? It looks like an M set, but I don't recognize the colour
 - method...

It's based on Kerry Mitchell's Triangle Inequality Method. Kerry posted his
formula for doing this to this list a while back; there's a slightly
different version in my formula file, available here:

    http://www.fractalus.com/misc/dmj-pub.zip

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  Fractalus Galleries & Info:
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or
in a newsgroup.  Thank you.

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From: Ron Barnett <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) MakeMap
Date: 27 Sep 1999 10:23:13 -0400

Greetings everyone:

MakeMap is at my new site (not really new, its over one year old now!).
http://www.hiddendimension.com
Ron Barnett

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Sent:    Wednesday, September 22, 1999 00:59


Paul N. Lee wrote:
>You might also try Ron Barnett's utility program "MakeMap".
>There is a useful list of information found at:
>http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/Resource.htm

I have tried that, but the link to MakeMap
(http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001/makemap.zip)
leads to an error message. Thanks anyway.

Nemonoxian greetings,

Nemo Nox
http://nemonox.homepage.com/



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From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Magic Image
Date: 27 Sep 1999 14:50:10 -0400

Hi Andrew,

>> I went through one of the many internet fractal galleries, and found =

>> this image:
>>
>> http://members.aol.com/gallets2/g9812302.jpg
>>
>> Does anyone know what colouring algorithm was used to create this =

>> thing? It looks like an M set, but I don't recognize the colour =

>> method...

  This thing was made of twu layers, one of these layers uses Kerry
Mitchell's "Triangle Inequality" color algorithm.

  You can see some Fractint images based on this method (check out
gallet_c.zip on my Downloads page).

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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   http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet/homepage.htm

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From: "Iain G. Stirling" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod
Date: 27 Sep 1999 23:57:56 +0100


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Hello all,

Perhaps you have (or have not) been wondering what the "inside=fmod"
option added to Fractint v20 is capable of. In answer to that question, here is
a PAR file containing 9 images using that option...

This is my first attempt at the art side of fractals (I usually stick to the
mathematics). It has taken me nearly 5 hours to produce EACH of the 9
images in this collection! I'm sure that is awfully long - could any of the
regular PAR contributers give me an idea of their average image creation
time?

Thanks,

Iain.





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iains01              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=6:39.64
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=sqr/conj passes=1
  corners=0.0395084635/0.109417318/-0.650925903/-0.598494262
  params=0/0/9 float=y maxiter=100 bailoutest=or inside=fmod
  outside=255 periodicity=-256 colors=zzz<247>111111111<3>0000KU
  }

iains02              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=1:37.82
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=julia passes=1
  corners=-1.568/1.567997/-1.175982/1.176002
  params=-0.77285766/-0.095993042 maxiter=100 inside=fmod
  proximity=0.015 outside=0 periodicity=-256 colors=zzz<254>000
  }

iains03              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=1:34.85
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=newton passes=1
  corners=0.90839761/1.0215496/-0.455563682/-0.370699682 params=6
  float=y maxiter=15 inside=fmod proximity=0.5 periodicity=-256
  colors=zzz<7>XbmT_lQXj<3>AKcvvv<239>000
  }

iains04              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=3:41.18
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=julia passes=1
  corners=0.19279681/0.31113281/0.512317611/0.601069611
  params=-0.7387588245570118/0.1409069307481326 float=y maxiter=120
  inside=fmod proximity=0.2 decomp=2 periodicity=-256
  colors=00wWWWmnnz00<229>zx0zx0zx0<3>zz0zzz<2>zzz000<2>000zzz<6>zzz
  }

iains05              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=6:09.15
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=lambda passes=1
  corners=0.76708786109/0.76720752245/0.721526708819/0.721616454842
  params=0.947996089931572/0.3430247718383337 float=y bailout=12399
  inside=fmod proximity=0.11 periodicity=-256
  colors=000<57>uuuvvvwwwxxxyyyzzz<2>yzzyzzxyzwyy<95>2Vd2Vd1Vd<87>000
  }

iains06              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=3:43.82
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=Jm_ducks passes=1
  center-mag=-1.02556688172043000/+0.71858867014341600/8438.819
  params=23/0 float=y maxiter=100 inside=fmod proximity=0.008 decomp=2
  colors=000UWWmnnzzz<97>d2Md2Ld1L<95>101101000<53>000
  }

iains07              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=1:23.76
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=CGNewton3 passes=1
  center-mag=+0.02824245917605415/+0.00269181904510192/492.06
  params=1.8/0 float=y maxiter=18 inside=fmod proximity=0.02
  decomp=256

colors=ccczz0z00000zzzccczz0z00000mmm000<9>0CP0DR0FU<3>0Kc<9>`hodjphmr<3\
>www<9>NZkJXjFUh<3>0Kc<9>08F07D05A<2>023000012<8>0CP0DR0FU<3>0Kc<9>`hodj\
phmr<3>www<9>NZkJXjFUh<3>0Kc<9>08F07D05A<2>023000012<8>0CP0DR0FU<3>0Kc<9\
>`hodjphmr<3>www<9>NZkJXjFUh<3>0Kc<9>08F07D05A<2>023000012<8>0CP0DR0FU<3\
  >0Kc<9>`hodjphmr<3>www<9>kkkjjjhhh<3>ccczz0z00000ccczzz
  }

iains08              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=2:24.56
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=julia passes=1
  center-mag=0.228303/-0.483871/3.875969
  params=-0.68466362/0.310020983 float=y maxiter=60 inside=fmod
  proximity=0.02 decomp=64 colors=zzz<254>000
  }

iains09              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=2:41.48
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
                      ; Colours based on lkmtch12.map
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_n.frm formulaname=NY002
  function=sin/sqr/sinh/cosh passes=1
  center-mag=-0.42776939483971880/-0.61914425806451700/135.0989
  float=y maxiter=30 inside=fmod proximity=0.05
  colors=222EA6ME6MIEUMEQE2aM6aQEiUEeM2qU6yY6yaEmUAqaMyeMyiUmaQeYQeUIYQIaY\
  UaaaaeiiiieaYqiaymayqimiezzz<74>4R_3R_2QZ1QZ<138>022012011<2>01100028E24\
  6
  }


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From: "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod
Date: 27 Sep 1999 21:28:29 -0300

Very nice images, Ian. They look like as if they were truecolor, am I right?
They didn┤t work in Ultrafractal, though. I wanted to play with layers. Does
anybody know why?
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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod
Date: 27 Sep 1999 18:48:47 -0600


In article <[e-mail]>,
    "Iain G. Stirling" <[e-mail]>  writes:

> This is my first attempt at the art side of fractals (I usually stick to the
> mathematics). It has taken me nearly 5 hours to produce EACH of the 9
> images in this collection! I'm sure that is awfully long - could any of the
> regular PAR contributers give me an idea of their average image creation
> time?

There are a variety of techniques, here are some off the top of my
head:

--- Browse in a low-resolution video mode until you've selected a
palette and coloring options that you like, then shift to a higher
resolution video mode for final rendering.

--- Use the view window screen ('v' menu) to select a portion of the
screen for rendering.  This doesn't involve a change in video mode, it
uses a subset of the available pixels in your current video mode.

--- Use solid guessing or tesseral rendering styles from the 'x' menu
even when you know that its inaccurate for the specific fractal type.
You'll pick up the lost detail upon final rendering.

--- When solid guessing or tesseral rendering is too egregiously
erroneous for one's sensibilities, use passes=3.  Passes=3 does all
the same things passes=1 does, but it gives you three progressively
refined scans instead of one fully-defined scan.

--- For slow formula types, borrow a technique from computer science
called 'strength reduction'.  What you do is look over your formula
code for repeatedly calculated subexpressions and compute them once,
sticking them into a variable which you use where the expressions
originally appeared.  Exploit trigonometric or geometric identities to
simplify expressions, or eliminate them entirely.  Fractint does a
good job at compiling formulas and optimizing them in a very low-
level manner, but it doesn't have a knowledge of geometry or
trigonometry to be able to reduce complexity in a user-defined
formula.

--- Browse at low resolution saving par's along the way and render
the pars over night at higher resolution.  ;-)
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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod
Date: 27 Sep 1999 18:50:39 -0600


In article <001301bf0948$7e07d100$3a85f6c8@winnetou>,
    "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" <[e-mail]>  writes:

> They didn't work in Ultrafractal, though. Does anybody know why?

Cool!  That feature I put in to break ultrafractal worked!* ;-)

They probably didn't work because ultrafractal isn't compatible with
fractint 20.0, its only compatible with some previous version.

* -- of course, I'm kidding.
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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PARS: inside=
Date: 27 Sep 1999 22:51:09 -0400

Hello Iain,

>> It has taken me nearly 5 hours to produce EACH of the 9 images in this=

collection! I'm sure that is awfully long <<

>> iains01              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=3D6:39.64
                      ; P133 1024 x 768 <<

The longest running one took only 6 + 2/3 minutes on your system accordin=
g
to the above calculation time.  I generated all 9 in far less than a
half-hour. Were you perhaps running under Win95 with the Always Suspend
property checked on this task while running other applications?

By the way, periodicity=3D-256 makes no sense.  (Read your Fractint.doc f=
ile
about how to use periodicity.)

Lee

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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod
Date: 28 Sep 1999 17:50:13 +1200

At 18:48 27/09/1999 -0600, Phil McRevis wrote:
>
>
>--- Use solid guessing or tesseral rendering styles from the 'x' menu
>even when you know that its inaccurate for the specific fractal type.
>You'll pick up the lost detail upon final rendering.
>
>--- When solid guessing or tesseral rendering is too egregiously
>erroneous for one's sensibilities, use passes=3.  Passes=3 does all
>the same things passes=1 does, but it gives you three progressively
>refined scans instead of one fully-defined scan.
>

And of course now there's passes=d which is as accurate as passes=1 but
gives you a decent preview much faster than any other pass method.

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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod
Date: 28 Sep 1999 10:05:43 -0600


In article <[e-mail]>,
    "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>  writes:

> And of course now there's passes=d which is as accurate as passes=1 but
> gives you a decent preview much faster than any other pass method.

Yep, I noticed this as new with fractint 20 so it slipped my mind when
I wrote that message ;-).
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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Parameter Explorer question
Date: 28 Sep 1999 18:12:11 -0400

> Say I have generated a screenful of image windows, and there are two or
three that I desperately wish to
> see and/or save. As far as I can tell, I only have the option of looking
> at and saving one small window, and the others are gone for all time. Is
> there a way to investigate more than one window per screen?
>
>Good news (and bad news)...
>
>Just save the Evolver screen as you would a normal image. When you restore
the
>image you can carry on and explore any of the cells you wish.
>
>The bad news, however, is that sometimes (in my experience) the restored
screen
>starts mutating all over again and there is no chance of getting back any
of the
>images! This happens to about one in four of the evolver screens that I
save. I
>should report this as a bug (Robin are you reading??).
>
>cheers, Les

FWIW, there are a couple of work arounds to the above mentioned bug - in
case anyone else has not yet figured it out.

1. When opening the restored screen, have a finger hovering over the zoom
box (page up) key. As soon as the image is on screen, hit the zoom box,
that will freeze the evolver program, so to speak, and the zoom box may
then be moved to where ever you want to go as normal.

2. I do not think the image is completely lost even if evolver is allowed
to run "losing" the info which was there. Exiting Fractint, then looking at
the saved .gif files shows the image is still there as originally placed,
and the original reappears on starting over. If you want the image which
evolver wants to replace, go back to option one and practice your fast draw.

3. You can also note the saved image thumbnail screen, exit Fractint, copy
the image to another folder, and if you do lose the image for whatever
reason, it can be recopied back into Fractint and run as normal. But again,
you finger might have to hit the zoom box fast.

I have done all three, including completely deleting the evolver thumbnail
image from Fractint, exiting, restarting Fractint, pasting the image back
in, and it works fine.

Again, the above FWIW and until the bug is fixed.




















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From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod
Date: 28 Sep 1999 22:04:50 -0700



Phil McRevis wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>,
>     "Iain G. Stirling" <[e-mail]>  writes:
>
> > This is my first attempt at the art side of fractals (I usually stick to the
> > mathematics). It has taken me nearly 5 hours to produce EACH of the 9
> > images in this collection! I'm sure that is awfully long - could any of the
> > regular PAR contributers give me an idea of their average image creation
> > time?
>

Phil...

I'm an art type...so I'll take a stab at answering.  A fractal I REALLY like usually
takes me anywhere from 1-3 hours.  The shorter time reflects starting with an
existing image...and the latter, starting from a formula and puttering.

My collection of Fractint stuff is at

http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractalintro.htm

One of the real keys to Fractint for me is a good color map, and I have some hints at
my site in that area that may be of help.

Angela aka wizzle

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From:   "Fliguer, Miguel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) First music PARs
Date: 29 Sep 1999 14:59:44 -0300

A couple of music PARs for v20 (my first attempt).

peart01 is a drum solo ;-), Sounds like Neil Peart of Rush.
td01 reminds me of some Tangerine Dream compositions.

Let me know if you like it.
Miguel Fliguer
Buenos Aires, Argentina
----

peart01            { ; Drum solo, Neil Peart's style
                     ; by Miguel Fliguer 1999
                     ; [e-mail]
  reset=2000 type=popcornjul function=sin/tan/sin/tan passes=1
  corners=-3/3/-2.25/2.25 params=1/2/3/2 float=y maxiter=20 bailout=64
  inside=3 viewwindows=4.2/0.75/yes/0/0 hertz=100 sound=y/fm/quant
  polyphony=3 attack=1 decay=6 sustain=7 srelease=14
  scalemap=1/2/1/3/1/4/1/5/1/6/1/7 orbitdelay=1100 showorbit=yes
  colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555<3>HHHKKKOO\
  O<3>ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0z0<3>0zz<2>0GzVVz<3>zVz<3>zV\
  V<3>zzV<3>VzV<3>Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zhz<3>zhh<3>zzh<3>hzh<3>hzz<2>hlz00S<3>S0\
  S<3>S00<3>SS0<3>0S0<3>0SS<2>07SEES<3>SES<3>SEE<3>SSE<3>ESE<3>ESS<2>EHSKK\
  S<2>QKSSKSSKQSKOSKMSKK<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<3>G0G<3\
  >G00<3>GG0<3>0G0<3>0GG<2>04G88G<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<2>GE8GG8EG8CG8AG88G\
  8<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<2>GFBGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<2>BGFBG\
  GBFGBDGBCG000<6>000
  }

td01               { ; Tangerine Dream, circa 1976
                     ; by Miguel Fliguer 1999
                     ; [e-mail]
  reset=2000 type=kamtorus3d passes=1
  corners=-5.28169/5.28169/-2.113922/5.808613 params=3/0.5/2/64
  float=y maxiter=20 bailout=64 inside=3 rotation=60/30/0
  perspective=0 xyshift=0/0 viewwindows=4.2/0.75/yes/0/0 hertz=330
  sound=z/fm/quant polyphony=8 wavetype=2 attack=9 decay=9 sustain=11
  srelease=11 scalemap=1/2/1/3/1/4/1/5/1/6/1/7 orbitdelay=1200
  showorbit=yes
  colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555<3>HHHKKKOO\
  O<3>ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0z0<3>0zz<2>0GzVVz<3>zVz<3>zV\
  V<3>zzV<3>VzV<3>Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zhz<3>zhh<3>zzh<3>hzh<3>hzz<2>hlz00S<3>S0\
  S<3>S00<3>SS0<3>0S0<3>0SS<2>07SEES<3>SES<3>SEE<3>SSE<3>ESE<3>ESS<2>EHSKK\
  S<2>QKSSKSSKQSKOSKMSKK<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<3>G0G<3\
  >G00<3>GG0<3>0G0<3>0GG<2>04G88G<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<2>GE8GG8EG8CG8AG88G\
  8<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<2>GFBGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<2>BGFBG\
  GBFGBDGBCG000<6>000
  }


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From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) First music PARs
Date: 29 Sep 1999 15:13:42 -0400

Hi Miguel,

>> A couple of music PARs for v20 (my first attempt).

  Very nice, especially td01!

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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From: "laszlo toth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Movie?
Date: 29 Sep 1999 21:35:42 PDT

Hi everybody, hi fractal-fanatics!
Can anybody advise me a simple program with I can make a film to jump into
the deepest part of the Mandelbrot? I have fractfly, and anifra, but these
(my version) can't work with arbitrary prec. or with the 20.0 Fractint. Is
it possible to add a random number parameter to the lsystems witch make from
the Koch curve a "seacoast" like curve? Something like plasma but in 1 (and
a little) dimension. Thanks: Laszlo

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From: Randall Britten <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Movie?
Date: 30 Sep 1999 13:42:52 +0200

Fractal filmer (written in Java) worked well for me to do just that, link on
the fractint pages.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: laszlo toth [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Thursday 30 September 1999 06:36
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> Subject: (fractint) Movie?
>
>
> Hi everybody, hi fractal-fanatics!
> Can anybody advise me a simple program with I can make a film
> to jump into
> the deepest part of the Mandelbrot? I have fractfly, and
> anifra, but these
> (my version) can't work with arbitrary prec. or with the 20.0
> Fractint. Is
> it possible to add a random number parameter to the lsystems
> witch make from
> the Koch curve a "seacoast" like curve? Something like plasma
> but in 1 (and
> a little) dimension. Thanks: Laszlo
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From: Lionel Poeffel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Test, Test
Date: 30 Sep 1999 17:53:41 +0200 (MET DST)


Sorry, this is just a test,
because I have problems with my
account.

Don't be angry. thanks,

Lionel.

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