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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fractal Census 2000
Date: 01 Apr 2000 23:26:49 -0600

Greetings,

It has been about two weeks since the request for the "Fractal Census"
was made, and still receiving an occasional email.  I have been
compiling this information into a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet, and was
only entering the basic stats that was requested.  But, decided to
expand with additional information (web sites, email addresses, physical
addresses, telephone numbers, birthdates, spouses and family members,
etc.).  It has gotten so large, that it now resembles a small database.

I have only taken six of the key fields:
      Names
      Various Products Used
      Qty.
      Best or Most Used
      Email Addresses
      Web Sites
to use in the creation of a web page:
      http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/Fractal_Census.html

This is not the completed census data, which will take a few more hours
(or may be days) to finish.  But I thought I would publish what I have
gathered so for.  If someone finds the information for them inaccurate
or incomplete, then please reply to the following email address:

          MAILTO:[e-mail]


Sincerely,
P.N.L.
http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Fractal Census 2000
Date: 03 Apr 2000 06:41:47 -0400

Hi Paul,

Please don't include my e-mail address on your census web page. Thanks.

Damien M. Jones   \\
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                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/



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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Concatenated strings
Date: 02 Apr 2000 17:51:31 -0600

Scott Boyd has submitted some Xfractint prompt cleanup of places where Xfractint is
reporting prompts that don't work in Xfractint. I am trying to simplify his suggestions,
which use  the XFRACT define whenever the Xfractint prompts are different from the
Fractint prompts.

I created a mechanism a long time ago for defines like

#ifndef XFRACT
#define UPARR "\x18"
#define DNARR "\x19"
#define RTARR "\x1A"
#define LTARR "\x1B"
#else
#define UPARR "K"
#define DNARR "J"
#define RTARR "L"
#define LTARR "H"
#endif

These were meant to be used like this:

static FCODE instr1[]  = {"Use " UPARR " and " DNARR " to select values to change"};

but are actually used like this:

#ifndef XFRACT
static FCODE instr1[]  = {"Use " UPARR " and " DNARR " to select values to change"};
#else
/* Some compilers don't accept "a" "b", so we have to fill in UPARR ourself.  */
static char far instr1[]  = {"Use up(K) and down(J) to select values to change"};
#endif


Note the comment. Do I still have to worry about compilers that don't support string
concatination like this:

printf("hello ""world\n");

The GCC compiler supports it. The reason I want to do this is that I am on a campaign
to eliminate the XFRACT define whenever possible.

Any ANSI-compatible compiler, including BSD and Linux GNU C compiler, should be
OK.

Tim








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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Fractal Census 2000
Date: 03 Apr 2000 09:05:20 -0400

Hi List,

 - Please don't include my e-mail address on your census web page. Thanks.

Whoops. This was supposed to go to Paul. I'm not at all sure how it ended
up here! Sorry for the foul-up, folks.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  Fractalus Galleries & Info:
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

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in a newsgroup.  Thank you.


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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Fractal Census 2000
Date: 02 Apr 2000 20:58:40 -0500

Damien M. Jones wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,

Hey there...   :-)

>
> Please don't include my e-mail address
> on your census web page. Thanks.

No problem, I will have it removed the next time I update the data base,
and upload as soon as possible.

BTW, you might wish to tell Tim Wegner to do the same for this URL:
    http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/fractint/archive/v01.n406
You are listed there at least three times.

Then there are the various other URL's around the world, such as the
following:
    http://www.cs.colostate.edu/~dzubera/2600faq.txt
which has a couple it it.

Sincerely,
P.N.L.
http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go

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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Fractal Census 2000
Date: 02 Apr 2000 21:13:03 -0600

Paul wrote:

> BTW, you might wish to tell Tim Wegner to do the same for this URL:
>     http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/fractint/archive/v01.n406
> You are listed there at least three times.

It's a side effect of majordomo lists that all email addresses are
exposed in the archive. If it's a problem I can probably turn off the
archiving feature.

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Fractal Census 2000
Date: 03 Apr 2000 11:10:12 -0400

Tim,

 - It's a side effect of majordomo lists that all email addresses are
 - exposed in the archive. If it's a problem I can probably turn off the
 - archiving feature.

Well naturally I would prefer my e-mail address not be published in a
web-accessible version of the list.

Paul,

I'm well aware that my address shows up in lots of places on the web. The
2600 FAQ lists it for a rather interesting reason, I think. :-) Usually I
ask them all to be removed, just as I asked you. I've discovered that a
fair bit of spam comes from web site harvesting, so that's why I ask. I
doubt I'll eliminate all of it, but I sure cut out most of the spam sent to
[e-mail] when I removed it from the IFL pages. So, removing as
many as I can helps.

Now that I think about it, though, I don't recall submitting information to
your fractal census. Why am I listed at all? I never thought for a moment
you would personally identify all the participants, either. Certainly when
I think of "census" I don't think of "directory listing".

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  Fractalus Galleries & Info:
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or
in a newsgroup.  Thank you.


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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Concatenated strings
Date: 03 Apr 2000 12:41:36 -0600


In article <38E788A3.31071.3EB4F7@localhost>,
    Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>  writes:

> Note the comment. Do I still have to worry about compilers that
> don't support string concatination like this:
>
> printf("hello ""world\n");

No.  This has been standard in ANSI C and ANSI C++ for quite some
time.  Any compiler that doesn't support this is a very old compiler.
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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Fractal Census 2000
Date: 03 Apr 2000 17:46:33 -0600

Damien wrote:

> Well naturally I would prefer my e-mail address not be published in a
> web-accessible version of the list.

I feel that way too. I am investigating whether this can be turned off
without turning off the digest. It might be a simple as changing read
permission on the archive directory. I'll do this if possible. I don't
see a way to do it in the majordomo config file.

Tim


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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Concatenated strings
Date: 03 Apr 2000 20:13:54 -0600

Rich wrote:

> No.  This has been standard in ANSI C and ANSI C++ for quite some
> time.  Any compiler that doesn't support this is a very old compiler.

I knew that, but I needed someone to give me permission :-)

This makes a much cleaner way to do the platform-specific user
interface via defines with strings like:

   "To get help press"FK_F1

Of course this will be moot when we do the GUI, but for now it is
useful.

If nobody complains, I will massage Scott's user interface changes
using defines and string concatenation.

Tim


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From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Xfractint julia off by one
Date: 03 Apr 2000 20:51:39 -0500

Tim,

I've fixed the off by one problem with Xfractint's julia type.  Now I have
two minor fixes.  I was thinking about starting to incorporate some of
Rich's file/routine reorganization.  The ones that don't break anything.

Jonathan



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From: "Scott D. Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Concatenated strings
Date: 04 Apr 2000 21:58:13 -0500

On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote:

I have no complaints Tim, go ahead.

Scott


>    "To get help press"FK_F1
>
> Of course this will be moot when we do the GUI, but for now it is
> useful.
>
> If nobody complains, I will massage Scott's user interface changes
> using defines and string concatenation.
>
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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Concatenated strings
Date: 08 Apr 2000 13:42:34 -0600

I was about to upload patch 10 with my version of Scott's Xfractint
keystroke prompts, when I realized we have made  a big oversight.

On my Linux system, Xfractint uses all the Fractint keys, so all the
new prompts are wrong!!

Fortunately, the way I am doing this is via defines for the prompts
in fractint.h, so I just need to investigate where the keystroke
choice is selected, and then make the right set of defines to be
active in fractint.h.

I'm just alerting folks because so you know I am working on this. I
have also promised Paul de Leeuw that I'd look at the fRAc chunk.
So much to do, so little time :-)

Tim


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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Patch 10
Date: 08 Apr 2000 15:39:04 -0600

I've put patch 10 at ftp.fractint.org.

The diff is:

ftp.fractint.org/2000p10.zip

I have also updated various other files for patch 10. I have punted
on the Xfractint prompts for now. Patch 10 implements the
alterntative prompts - e.g. shift-1 for F1, even though they may not
be needed. We need to make a define that allows the DOS
function key prompts to be used with Xfravtint if appropriate.

Thanks to Scott Boyd for helping with this patch. The xfractint
source files has been updated so you can try it.

Tim


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From: "Scott D. Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Concatenated strings
Date: 08 Apr 2000 18:22:32 -0500

Tim,

On Sat, 08 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> I was about to upload patch 10 with my version of Scott's Xfractint
> keystroke prompts, when I realized we have made  a big oversight.
>
> On my Linux system, Xfractint uses all the Fractint keys, so all the
> new prompts are wrong!!
>
That's really strange! Specially since you are running Redhat Linux, upon which
Linux-Mandrake is based. I thought that all the standard English-language PC
keyboards would use the Shift-F* prompts. Possibly a different keyboard-map
file?

> Fortunately, the way I am doing this is via defines for the prompts
> in fractint.h, so I just need to investigate where the keystroke
> choice is selected, and then make the right set of defines to be
> active in fractint.h.
>
I saw where the keystroke choice is selected while I was making the mods, but
now I don't remember which source file I saw it in. (Possibly fractint.c)

> So much to do, so little time :-)
>
I know that feeling!

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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Concatenated strings
Date: 08 Apr 2000 23:09:38 -0600

Scott wrote:

> That's really strange! Specially since you are running Redhat Linux, upon which
> Linux-Mandrake is based. I thought that all the standard English-language PC
> keyboards would use the Shift-F* prompts. Possibly a different keyboard-map
> file?

I just did a vanilla Mandrake install, so I'm not sure.

The shift-1 etc. keys still work, but so do the function keys, the
cursor keys, and the pageup etc. keys. However the "arrow"
characters aren't the same, so the character set is different from
the DOS character set, so some of the fractint.h defines still need
to be different from Linux.

I suggest you grab my patch 10 sources and look at the defines I
created in fractint.h (FK_F1 etc.). We will need to set up a system
to use the correct defines.

BTW  I saw a bug - when one cursor's around the fractal type list,
sometimes the type name is written too far to the right, I need to
look into this.

Tim




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From: "Scott D. Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Concatenated strings
Date: 09 Apr 2000 01:23:40 -0500

Tim,

On Sun, 09 Apr 2000, you wrote:

> BTW  I saw a bug - when one cursor's around the fractal type list,
> sometimes the type name is written too far to the right, I need to
> look into this.
>
This doesn't happen to me in either 20.0.7 or 20.0.10. Does this happen to
you only in Xfractint? If so, it might be the terminal session you're using.
What terminal session are you using?

I have discovered what might be a bug in both Xfractint 20.0.7 and 20.0.10. In
the fractal-type list, select mandelcloud. Just leave the next parameter screen
as is and press Enter. Xfractint promptly exits and closes both windows without
even so much as a "Goodbye"!

Scott Boyd

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From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Concatenated strings
Date: 09 Apr 2000 20:31:55 -0500

Scott,

> I have discovered what might be a bug in both Xfractint 20.0.7 and
20.0.10. In
> the fractal-type list, select mandelcloud. Just leave the next parameter
screen
> as is and press Enter. Xfractint promptly exits and closes both windows
without
> even so much as a "Goodbye"!

Yes, that's a bug.  The cellular type does this also, when you press the
space bar twice.  I tried to find my list of known Xfractint problems to see
if this was on it, but it appears to be lost in the mists of time.  I'll
start a new list.  That way I'm sure to find the old one.

(later)  Yep, I found it while looking for something to respond to a
different email.  The type=mandelcloud isn't on it.

Jonathan




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From: "Scott D. Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Bugs found in Xfractint 20.0.10
Date: 14 Apr 2000 00:44:27 -0500

These bugs may or may not be local to my computer. Will someone
please try these on their Linux system? I am using Linux-Mandrake 6.1 with
kernel 2.0.13

Bug #1 only happens in Xfractint 20.0.10.
Bug #2 happens in both Xfractint 3.11 (Fractint 20.0.7) and Xfractint 20.0.10.

1: When ever I press Shift-2 (or '@') Xfractint shuts down.
   (This keypress works OK in Xfractint 3.11 (aka 20.0.7)).

2: Start Xfractint and draw the default fractal.
   Go back to the main menu
   Shell to Linux, then type exit to get back to Xfractint.
   "Press operation key, or <Esc> to return to Main Menu"
    will be messed up. (displayed as garbage characters)
   Press Esc to return to main menu
   Press 't' - Xfractint will shut down.
   Or press 'x' and change a parameter, then press 'Enter' -
   Xfractint will shut down.
Other menu keys will also cause Xfractint to shut down,
sometimes immediately, sometimes within 2-3 keypresses.

I thought this might be something wrong with my computer, so I re-booted into
Linux and KDE. Still encountered the two bugs. I also tried the above steps
while at the prompt (running Xfractint in diskvideo mode). Xfractint would shut
down, and also print "Segmentation fault" as the error message to the screen.


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From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Bugs found in Xfractint 20.0.10
Date: 14 Apr 2000 13:10:02 -0500

Scott,

> These bugs may or may not be local to my computer. Will someone
> please try these on their Linux system? I am using Linux-Mandrake 6.1 with
> kernel 2.0.13

> Bug #1 only happens in Xfractint 20.0.10.
> Bug #2 happens in both Xfractint 3.11 (Fractint 20.0.7) and Xfractint
20.0.10.

Neither problem shows up on mine.  I'm using Linux-Mandrake 7.0 with kernel
2.0.14.

Jonathan



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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Bugs found in Xfractint 20.0.10
Date: 15 Apr 2000 23:07:49 -0400

Hey gang,

 - > Bug #1 only happens in Xfractint 20.0.10.
 - > Bug #2 happens in both Xfractint 3.11 (Fractint 20.0.7) and Xfractint
 - 20.0.10.
 -
 - Neither problem shows up on mine.  I'm using Linux-Mandrake 7.0 with
 - kernel 2.0.14.

I just got Caldera's eDesktop (OpenLinux) installed on my home system as a
dual-boot with Windows 2000. If I get a chance this weekend, I'll give
Xfractint a shot and see what happens.

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From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Allegro Graphics Package
Date: 17 Apr 2000 20:48:25 -0500

Tim,

I'm looking seriously at the Allegro Graphics Package for use with Fractint.
The main reason is portability.  It has ports to djgpp, some Windows
compilers (Borland), Unix/Linux, and BEOS.  It includes drivers for mice,
sound, keyboard, and a high precision timer.

The svgalib package has specific video drivers (not VESA) which appears to
be very limiting.  OTOH, Allegro can use FreeBE/AF, a low level video driver
interface with all the features of VESA 3.0.

Are there any other packages we should look at?  Are there other
considerations?

Jonathan



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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Allegro Graphics Package
Date: 17 Apr 2000 22:01:50 -0600

Jonathan wrote:

> I'm looking seriously at the Allegro Graphics Package for use with Fractint.
> The main reason is portability.  It has ports to djgpp, some Windows
> compilers (Borland), Unix/Linux, and BEOS.  It includes drivers for mice,
> sound, keyboard, and a high precision timer.

Yes, Allegro is very portable, and as you said it has additional stuff
like sound we can use. It is meant for game programmers, but even
though we don't need it all, we can use it to good advantage.

> The svgalib package has specific video drivers (not VESA) which appears to
> be very limiting.

I didn't realize it wasn't VESA. That about rules it out IMHO.
Console graphics have to be VESA or we're dead. Although VESA
support for the higher resolutions is problematic on some boards
these days ...

>  OTOH, Allegro can use FreeBE/AF, a low level video driver
> interface with all the features of VESA 3.0.

That sounds good.

> Are there any other packages we should look at?  Are there other
> considerations?

I think that's about it for non-X operation. Going this route is just to
get us permanently into a 32 bit platform. The non-graphics
console itself will be getting more rare. However I still think this
would be a good step for us even if just a transition. And I'll bet the
console will be with us for a while yet. Does Allegro have an X
incarnation that can run in an Xterm?

The other relevant packages would be portable GUIs. The main
choices are WxWindows and GTK toolkit. But you don't have to
worry about that just yet. I think making a simple-minded port of
the DOS Fractint (maybe the float-only version) to djgpp/Linux
would be a good step, and not impossibly hard. These should be
maintained in synch with Xfractint, but leave the medium model
fractint behind.

Once accomplished, there are all kinds of global
cleanup/restructuring/rearchitecting that could be done. I hope we
can make use of some of Rich's X massage work.

I have two more Kalman filter classes, this Thursday and next,
then I hope I can free up some time for this. The perpetual dream
:-)

BTW Kalman filters are amazing. A Kalman filter is an algorithm for
taking measurements on the fly to calculate a state vector (as in
position and velocity of a spacecraft), but it is smart enough to
keep track of how good the measurements are, and to use the
better ones more, as well as keeping track of how good it's current
estimate of the state is, and factor that in along with the
measurements. This is, quite literally, rocket science :-). Wonderful
for orbit determination software.

Tim


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From: [e-mail] (Kragen Sitaker)
Subject: Re: Allegro Graphics Package
Date: 18 Apr 2000 09:08:24 -0400 (EDT)

Tim Wegner writes:
> > The svgalib package has specific video drivers (not VESA) which appears to
> > be very limiting.
>
> I didn't realize it wasn't VESA. That about rules it out IMHO.
> Console graphics have to be VESA or we're dead. Although VESA
> support for the higher resolutions is problematic on some boards
> these days ...

IIRC, there are problems running real-mode VESA drivers in
protected-mode Linux.  svgalib and X are Linux's answers to VESA.

About running Allegro in an xterm: xterm is more or less limited to
displaying text.  I've displayed graphics in xterms by using a small
font and displaying text, but this is slow and not recommended.
XwinAlleg opens a new window IIRC.

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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Allegro Graphics Package
Date: 18 Apr 2000 11:39:22 -0600


Whatever you decide to use PLEASE introduce an abstraction layer that
is *not* allegro.  I feel this is very important if you really want to
keep portability.  Once you tie yourself to a particular package --
even one that claims to be portable and I've looked at allegro and its
not bad -- you also tie yourself to its weaknesses.  Please don't
design in another round of dependency weaknesses (like our current
dependency on DOS/VGA specifics), or we'll just have to fight this
battle again at some later date.  This was my intention behind the
driver abstraction that I massaged into the code.  It is not dependent
on anything specifically, it merely provides abstract function.
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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Allegro Graphics Package
Date: 18 Apr 2000 11:41:08 -0600


You really don't want to try and do graphics in an xterm!  Xterm is
not meant for that!  Its for text!

Unless you intend to provide a text-driver a la XaoS, I would advise
forgetting completely about anything running in an xterm.

One of the biggest kludges in xfractint right now is that you *must*
run it in an xterm and the code has all this crap littered everywhere
to deal with both curses *and* Xlib!  All that curses code needs to be
removed and text I/O should be done with xlib.  If that approach had
been taken originally, the xfractint code would be much simpler and
would support the PC key mappings better.
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From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Allegro Graphics Package
Date: 18 Apr 2000 17:01:56 -0500

Tim wrote,

> Although VESA support for the higher resolutions is problematic on some
boards
> these days ...

That is the purpose of FreeBE/AF.  I believe it is similar (identical?) to
univbe.

> Does Allegro have an X incarnation that can run in an Xterm?

Allegro can use either X or svgalib under Linux.

> A Kalman filter is an algorithm for taking measurements on the fly to
calculate a state
> vector (as in position and velocity of a spacecraft), but it is smart
enough to keep track
> of how good the measurements are, and to use the better ones more, as well
as
> keeping track of how good it's current estimate of the state is, and
factor that in along
> with the measurements. This is, quite literally, rocket science :-).

Cool!  What are you going to do with this knowledge when you are done with
the class?

Jonathan



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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Allegro Graphics Package
Date: 18 Apr 2000 20:36:42 -0600


> Cool!  What are you going to do with this knowledge when you are done with
> the class?

I use it directly at work. I am working with GPS receiver models
that contain Kalman filters, and we use Kalman filters to do orbit
determination for the space shuttle and the space station.

Kalman filters can be used in almost any situation where
measurements are youse to calculate something.

I haven't figured out any application to fractals ...  yet :-)

Tim


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From: "Scott D. Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Xfractint 20.0.10
Date: 19 Apr 2000 16:20:30 -0500

I have been looking thru the source of Xfractint-20.0.10 trying to find the
reason why it crashes with a segfault whenever I press Shift-2 from the main
menu. I have discovered that the modified version of 20.0.9 that I worked on
(which I called xfractint-dev) doesn't crash. I had submitted the changes to Tim
Wegner, which he changed somewhat, and posted to the ftp server as
xfractint-20.0.10. I still need to go through the 20.0.9 source and apply my
original changes one-by-one, compile, and test.

Anyway.... Here's something interesting I have discovered:
When I run Xfractint in an xterm window, I can't use the Function keys. I need
to use the Shift-n keys as indicated in the man page. *But*, when I run
Xfractint in a Konsole window (KDE's version of xterm), the function keys work
fine. Apparently there are some differences in the way Konsole and Xterm map
the keyboard.

Tim - you told me that the Function keys worked fine in your Xfractint. Are you
running it from an xterm session, or something else?

Scott Boyd

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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Xfractint 20.0.10
Date: 19 Apr 2000 17:45:56 -0600

Scott wrote:

> I had submitted the changes to Tim
> Wegner, which he changed somewhat,

Actually, I changed them a lot! I hope I didn't mess things up, by I
guess I did. The intent of my changes was just to eliminate many
of the #ifdef's. I didn't intend to actually change the executable
code from what you had. I guess I should look through the changes.

> Tim - you told me that the Function keys worked fine in your Xfractint. Are you
> running it from an xterm session, or something else?

KDE/Xterm session. I have a lot of trouble with
Gnome/Enlightenment. I am using Linux-Mandrake 7.0.

Tim


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From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Patch 2000P11
Date: 21 Apr 2000 15:10:31 -0500

Tim,

I put patch 11 on the ftp site, along with a DOS executable.  This patch is
so small for two reasons.  I intend to start the process of interfacing with
the Allegro package.  Using Rich's work as a starting point, of course.  I
don't want any bug fixes lost in the muck.

The second reason is that business will be taking me to Arkansas for the
next week or two and I won't be online.  I'll be around until Sunday
evening.

Jonathan



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From: "Rupert Millard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 3d transform doesn't work in float only version
Date: 28 Apr 2000 09:52:59 GMT

Hello,

I thought about putting this on the buglist but I think it's a fundamental
problem with float-only:

In the float-only version of Fractint 3d transforms don't work.

From,

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