Please come by for a listen if you are so inclined and drop into the
chat room & say hello if you like.
See you then...
Jon
- --
Jon Huck
The Fur Ones
http://www.mp3.com/thefurones
http://monorailrecords.com/
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 21:23:04 -0700
From: "F. Cobalt" <fcobalt@lycos.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) And talking of Lalo....
At 03:37 PM 6/14/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote:
d I hear he did Ironside which I
>think I've seen somewhere. Che, RollerCoaster, Cincinnati Kid, etc etc
>aren't worth bothering with in the funky soundtrack stakes so does anyone
>have suggestions for more Lalo goodies?
>
>I love "Whole Lalo Schifrin Goin On".
>
>AZ
I second that suggestion for the above album. I love the Planet of the Apes TV show theme "Ape Shuffle" which you can find on a few comps here and there.
The Liquidator has an intriguing Shirley Bassey "Goldfinger" rip-off.
Sol Madrid is largely Latin influenced and has a good chase-themed track.
I would say those two are good ones if you want to flesh out your Schifrin collection, though agreeably I think Mannix and Mission: Impossible and Enter the Dragon are tops.
Mr. Unlucky
Get 250 color business cards for FREE!
http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:08:02 -0500
From: Paul Wages <rewages@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Morricone RMX
I gave this a disc a listen today and had mixed reactions to it. I like the
idea of it, but all of those techno beats wear on me very quickly. And it
doesn't help that most of the original Morricone tracks are all-time
favorites... I mean on an almost sacred territory level.
On the other hand, I really do like what Goldfrapp did with "Invenzione Per
John" on the title track of "Felt Mountain."
Wasn't there another Morricone remix project in the works? I not so
distinctly remember someone mentioning one that was a follow-up to the
mondomorricone compilations and was going to have a Gak Sato cut.
Domenic Ciccone wrote:
> The "Morricone RMX" is a fabulous disk in this popnouveau style. Some nice
> Bossa type tracks.
> Fantastic Plastic Machine has a selection on it. Techno and wordless vocals.
> It's all great. DePhazz's "La Lucertola" would have been played to death on
> Luxuriamusic.
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 02:28:11 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems
At 08:57 AM 6/15/01 -0500, Matthew J. Marchese wrote:
>
>Not only that, but in my experience these guys are typically middle-aged
>men who's hearing at the highend is totally shot, so they're spending
>all of this money to reproduce frequencies that they can't even hear
>anymore! .
I guess it falls to me to defend audiophiles AND middle aged men.
It's true that they're not into music the same way WE are. It's true that
they often like music just for how "good" it sounds.
Then again that does sort of sound like us. Some of us anyway.
I certainly like those Stereo Action effects. Or that third channel in the
middle with Command's "Dimension Three" records.
And though you can certainly make the argument that everything that comes
off a record and through your stereo is somehow "music", I do think that at
the beginning of my "lounge journey", there were qualities I enjoyed which
weren't exactly "musical".
I guess I would think that record accumulators/collectors would feel a
kinship with audiophiles. We all spend a lot of time with out stereos
listening to a lot of things that other people can't quite "hear".
Having said this, the one audiophile I interviewed for my film - his
tonearm cost ten thousand dollars - played me "Oh What a Lucky Man he was"
to demonstrate his system.
But later he played this Muddy Waters record that was really raw and
sounded beautiful I must say.
If I had the money, I guess I'd spend it on records and women and cars and
booze but you never know.
I hate to see geeks calling other geeks "geeks".
AZ
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 02:37:12 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: (exotica) more soundtrack questions
At 03:36 PM 6/15/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote:
>
>Last night I watched The Stone Killer on Channel 5. .
I guess I could look this up but last night at a video store I watched a
few minutes of the classic "Man with Two Heads". I've seen it a few times
but I still can't get over the cheesiness of it all. Anyway the soundtrack
was fantastic. Kind of groovy and kind of blaxploitation sounding at the
same time. Who did it? Was there a record? And is it on ebay right now?
I want it.
AZ
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:32:36 +0800
From: "William" <king8egg@ms60.url.com.tw>
Subject: (exotica) pascal comelade & the free design
hi all,
well, today i stumbled upon a bunch of pascal comelade at a shop here i
wasn't sure which to get so i just picked up "musiques pour films vol. 2"
since with a track called "betty page a-go-go" i figured it couldn't be too
bad. plus i really like the other pascal comelade i have. they also had the
pascals. for those that don't know this is a japanese band that started out
as an all pascal comelade cover band. i'm really happy to have this since
it has there wonderful version of "moon river". someone else grabbed the
only other copy of the pascals they had(where do these people come from? i'm
always surprised by this here...). cheryl, they didn't have your two
favourite pascal comelade discs. but they did have the robert wyatt one and
the one done with the bel canto orchestra. i will no doubt go back at least
for the bel canto orchestra one. now, time for a silly question - is there
a difference between the bel canto orchestra and the pop group bel canto? i
haven't as yet had the chance to listen to these discs but will shortly.
yesterday i picked up "sing for very important people" by the free
design. so now i have:
one by one
heaven/earth
stars/time/bubbles/love
you could be born again
and i have a comp called kites are fun. all of these except for kites are
fun are on the japanese label teichiku. am i missing any old cd reissues(of
complete albums) aside from "kites are fun" which i believe is out of
print(and i think its different than the comp. kites are fun)?
william in taipei.
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:38:32 +0800
From: "William" <king8egg@ms60.url.com.tw>
Subject: (exotica) i told you not to cry
one more thing,
i saw this comp by gert wilden & orchestra called "i told you not to
cry". does anyone have this? is it worth picking up?
william in taipei.
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:24:18 +0100
From: "ronnie edgar" <ronnie.edgar@lineone.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) i told you not to cry
Tis' Okay, but not as good as his Schulmadchen stuff
> one more thing,
>
> i saw this comp by gert wilden & orchestra called "i told you not to
> cry". does anyone have this? is it worth picking up?
>
> william in taipei.
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:29:05 EDT
From: Stilgloria@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) New CD Burner
Well, I finally broke down and purchased a CD burner. Not for the computer,
but for my stereo components. I want to burn from CDs and records in my
collection and make compilations for my friends and for myself. I got it
about three weeks ago, and have been afraid to hook it up. Isn't that stupid?
I even bought the blank CDs, making sure they weren't for the computer. The
reason I haven't set it up is the sales people keep telling me I need better
cables than the cables that ship with the player. They say that the CD's will
burn fine, but if I play them back on the CD burner, they won't sound great.
My tuner isn't the newest, so I can't buy the digital cables. But there are
cables that I can buy, I guess along the lines of monster cables. Does that
sound right to you? Are there people out there who can advise me? Should I
just hook it up with the cables that it shipped with and see how it sounds? I
don't know why I'm so darn hesitant to hook it up, but I'd better hurry
before my warranty runs out. LOL
Gloria
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:16:40 -0500
From: "Matthew J. Marchese" <mjmarch@charter.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems
alan zweig wrote:
> AI guess it falls to me to defend audiophiles AND middle aged men.
Alan, relax. Have a mental Maitai or something. I know how thin-skinned you are
about age-related comments, but sheesh, I'm 42, not some young pup dissing the
oldsters.
It's a well-established medical fact that the highend of the human hearing
range starts to roll off precipitously once you reach middle age, my hearing
included. Basically, anyone over 40 who says that they can hear frequencies
over 14 kHz is probably lying. I work with a fellow who used to be an audio
salesman. He has entertained me with many stories over the years about how he
bilked audiophiles out of thousands of dollars for equipment when they
obviously couldn't tell the difference between a $4000 pair of speakers and a
$40 one, at least when it came to high-frequency reproduction.
That isn't to say that there aren't other sonic qualities present in expensive
stereo components that makes it worthwhile for people to buy them and I never
suggested otherwise. I myself purchased a new pair of Wharfdales last year
after my 30-year old KLH speakers finally went totally microphonic on me. I did
a side-by-side test on the two and I could immediately tell the difference,
particularly in how "warm" the sound was from the Wharfdales. OTOH, I bought a
new car for my wife last year with a premium sound kit installed that includes
separate tweeter domes. Even if I put my ear right up next to them, I usually
can't tell if anything's coming out.
> I hate to see geeks calling other geeks "geeks".
Sorry if my comments got your undies into a twist, but I think you
misinterpreted them.
Matt
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:55:11 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New CD Burner
At 10:29 AM 6/16/01 EDT, Stilgloria@aol.com wrote:
>
>Well, I finally broke down and purchased a CD burner. Not for the computer,
>but for my stereo components. I want to burn from CDs and records in my
>collection and make compilations for my friends and for myself. I got it
>about three weeks ago, and have been afraid to hook it up. Isn't that
stupid?
I was afraid to make CD's from vinyl for the first few weeks. So no, it's
not stupid.
> The reason I haven't set it up is the sales people keep telling me I need
better
>cables than the cables that ship with the player. They say that the CD's
will
>burn fine, but if I play them back on the CD burner, they won't sound great.
>My tuner isn't the newest, so I can't buy the digital cables.
I'm going to assume you bought the kind of "CD recorder" that only has a
recorder, not a player. Because it you had the player/recorder, you can go
from CD to CD within the machine and cables are a non issue.
I think they confused you. Digital cables have nothing to do with your
tuner. Nobody uses digital cables with a tuner. A digital cable goes
directly from source to recorder without a tuner in between. In other
words, if you had a CD player with a "digital out" you'd go from the CD
player to the CD recorder and ignore the tuner.
But if you want to record vinyl, you can't ignore the tuner. And since
vinyl is analog, it obviously doesn't have a "digital out". You have no
choice but to go through your tuner.
Just hook it up. I'm using the most normal cables. I've burned I won't
tell you how many CD's from vinyl. If the record sounds good, the CD is
going to sound great.
Just pretend it's a tape player. Hit record, let the record spin, hit
pause when it's over. Find the next tune. It's exactly the same.
There is this "noise" that seems to come from either the tuner or the
cables. Or maybe it's the grooves of the record. There's sound there even
when the record is between cuts. If someone were to tell me that better
RCA cables would eliminate that noise, I wouldn't argue.
But it doesn't really bother me. My vinyl-sourced CDR's sound good to me
and to others. They don't sound like CD's exactly. And they could be a
little "quieter". But they sound at least as good as the original records
did and they're a hell of a lot more convenient.
Hit record and go!
AZ
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:03:05 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems
At 10:16 AM 6/16/01 -0500, Matthew J. Marchese wrote:
>alan zweig wrote:
>
>> AI guess it falls to me to defend audiophiles AND middle aged men.
>
>Alan, relax. Have a mental Maitai or something. I know how thin-skinned
you are
>about age-related comments, but sheesh, I'm 42, not some young pup dissing
the
>oldsters.
I wasn't attacking you, just defending audiophiles.
It's not that I'm thinskinned about age, it's that I don't think
referencing middle age has anything to do with the subject.
Every audiophile I know has been an audiophile since they were kids. They
didn't just reinvent themselves at 40 when coincidentally their hearing
started to go.
They didn't go from a thousand dollar stereo to a hundred thousand dollar
one because suddenly they couldn't hear all the frequencies in Keith
Emerson's brilliant synthesizer solos.
They didn't go from eclectic far ranging tastes to very narrow collections
because they got a bit older.
They always had 40 Genesis records.
If you're talking about bad knees and middle age, you won't hear a peep
from me.
But audiophile geekiness has got nothing to do with age.
And even though I don't like hanging out with them, I'm not sure they're
any "worse" than us.
AZ
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:28:28 -0400
From: "cheryl" <cheryls@dsuper.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) pascal comelade & the free design
Yes, there is a very big difference between the Bel Canto Orchestra and the
pop group Bel Canto - not to be confused with each other! And the live disc
of Pascal with Bel Canto Orch. is one of the best he's done, so it's
definitely worth picking up. I'd still pass on the Wyatt, unless you're a
diehard Comelade or Wyatt fan (I'm only the former, not the latter...)
cheryl
From: "William" <king8egg@ms60.url.com.tw>
> cheryl, they didn't have your two
> favourite pascal comelade discs. but they did have the robert wyatt one
and
> the one done with the bel canto orchestra. i will no doubt go back at
least
> for the bel canto orchestra one. now, time for a silly question - is there
> a difference between the bel canto orchestra and the pop group bel canto?
i
> haven't as yet had the chance to listen to these discs but will shortly.
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:31:00 -0400
From: "cheryl" <cheryls@dsuper.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) i told you not to cry
I have to disagree with that - run, don't walk, to get this one! It's a
little more crime-jazz like, as opposed to cheesy soft porn (although both
are fine in my books) and a must-have. You won't be sorry...
cheryl
> > i saw this comp by gert wilden & orchestra called "i told you not to
> > cry". does anyone have this? is it worth picking up?
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:30:46 -0700
From: PjB <tvine@teleport.com>
Subject: (exotica) greetings/intro
hi all--- pjb here, and new to the list i am i am. found you guys somewhat
circuitously.... i'm a jazz musician of around 20 years standing (actually
sitting; i'm a piano player <bada-bing>), and it was a search for fifties
jazz sides that led me here.
anyway, i have developed only recently a fetish for old vinyl. of course, i
grew up with it, but when the dread cd was foisted upon us i abandoned rms
vinyl a little *too* willingly, i think.
now mind you, i didn't embrace cd technology blindly.... it took me all of
4 years before i made the decision to sell my lps and start collecting cds.
it didn't take nearly that long for me to decide that as a medium, cds
blow. i won't get into listing the many things about cds that i don't
like.... suffice for now to say that i find them to be soulless affairs.
and when i started visiting local used record shops and thrift stores last
week, i noticed that my frame of mind improved rather dramatically. i'm
finding total pleasure in coming home to a stack of new-old records to
listen to.... and i augment this listening by researching each record on
the web..... there is an astounding amount of data about old records there.
i look forward to interacting with list members. i do have a couple of
questions.... one, are there many here who lean toward jazz as their main
area of interest? is it alright to discuss jazz records? ...and two, can
some kind soul hip me to a good web site or two, particularly ones with a
jazz slant? i am very interested in researching records in depth.... and
finally, anyone know of any mailing lists that deal specifically with 50s
and 60s jazz? please don't get the idea that i'm a jazz queer..... i very
much enjoy bizarre and unique records of any genre.
.02
pjb/
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:34:47 -0500
From: Matt Marchese <mjmarch@charter.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems
alan zweig wrote:
> I wasn't attacking you, just defending audiophiles.
Okay, sorry for the misunderstanding. It's just that you and I have been at
loggerheads before regarding comments I've made about middle-aged musical
performers, so maybe it's me who's being overly sensitive.
> But audiophile geekiness has got nothing to do with age.
For the most part, I agree with you and I'm not exactly sure how you got the
impression that I was trying to equate the two. All I was saying is that most
of the audio gearheads that I've met are older men who always seem to be trying
to convince me that they can hear every frequency between 20 and 20,000 Hz. One
of the instructors that I work with (a guy in his 50s) has a audio system
worth about $20k and he once spent almost an hour trying to convince me that he
could hear frequencies up to 25 kHz, which is highly unlikely. I teach
installation and maintenance classes for digital audio systems that are used by
TV/film postproduction and digital theater customers, so when people tell me
stuff like that, my BS detectors start flashing.
As to when they actually began collecting the gear, I wouldn't know, but I tend
to think that a lot of them started later in life when they got established in
a career that provided them with enough money to buy all that fabulously
expensive stuff.
> And even though I don't like hanging out with them, I'm not sure they're
> any "worse" than us.
Again, I'm not exactly sure how you got the impression that I was saying this
in my original post, but whatever...
- --
Matt Marchese
"I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a
nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate)
