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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:09:41 -0500
From: Mimi Mayer <mimim@texas.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki talk
At 01:12 PM 6/8/01 -0400, Randy wrote:
Any thoughts as to why Tiki culture became
>all the rage?
Plus the War in the Pacific got lots of people to Polynesia and Southeast
Asia--my parents, for instance, met on a troop ship headed for the
Philippines. Alas, they did not return to the States Tikiheads. Blockbuster
movies such as "From Here to Eternity" also contributed, I suspect. (Jones'
novel about Hawaii on the verge of WWII is superb--recommended to the
readers on the list.) Then there's Eisenhower era bland, which left people
hungry for vivid escapes from increasingly homogenized culture.
Theoretically yours, Mimi
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:20:35 -0400
From: Jenna <jenna@hollygolightly.net>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Tiki talk
I always thought it was because of all the WWII servicemen coming home
from the Pacific, some of them bringing stuff home (clothes, wives...)
and others just saying "Hey, the USA needs a bar like this!" The musical
"South Pacific" certainly comes to mind. I'm sure postwar luxury and the
newfound ease of air travel had a lot to do with it too.
jk
>
> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:12:21 -0400
> From: "R. Schultz" <randy.schultz@juno.com>
> Subject: (exotica) Tiki talk
>
> Exotica seems to have various themes associated with it (space age
> themes, perfectly understandable given the time) but one thing that
> intrigues me about it is its fascination with Tiki culture. I was
> wondering if anyone had ideas as to why this theme took hold so strongly
> during this period of time. My guesses are the maturing of the middle
> class in postwar America (those career climbers of the late 40s were
> reaching the salaries where they could afford to travel to tropical
> locales, or at least reasonably dream of doing so), the events leading up
> to the statehood of Hawaii -- maybe exotica helped it become a state ;-)
> ...or maybe it's just the way certain things just spontaneously take hold
> in popular American culture. Any thoughts as to why Tiki culture became
> all the rage?
>
> Randy
>
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:22:08
From: jschwart@voicenet.com
Subject: (exotica) High Llamas
I'm always surprised to see the High Llamas (or the Beach Boys, for that
matter) mentioned in Exotica circles, but at any rate, here's a bio I wrote
about them for the 1995 release of their GIDEON GAYE album...
HIGH LLAMAS BIO (10/16/95)
GIDEON GAYE, the new Epic (and epic) album from England's High Llamas,
invites instant association with the music of Brian Wilson, from the
opening swirl of strings to the moody, melodic instrumental that closes it.
While sixties rock has inspired later artists in many different ways, the
High Llamas' latest album most of all recalls a time when the catchiest and
most commercial songs were created by people unafraid of also being the
most experimental.
Whether including an entire BACKWARDS song ("Taog Skool No") or letting one
of the hookiest pieces ("Track Goes By") continue blithely and assuredly
for over 14 minutes, High Llamas leader Sean O'Hagan wears not only his PET
SOUNDS and SMILE bootlegs on his sleeve, but also the influence of such
kindred obsessive-compulsive originals as Todd Rundgren, Van Dyke Parks and
The Millennium's Curt Boettcher. O'Hagan's musical tapestry deftly mixes
piano, Vox organ, Moog, glockenspiel, vibes and harpsichord with the
traditional guitars and drums, while his multi-tracked vocals recall the
perfect emotive strain and cryptic imagery of Steely Dan's Donald Fagen.
Sean O'Hagan first drew notice in the mid-eighties Irish band Microdisney,
working with fiery singer/lyricist Cathal Coughlin. After six acclaimed
albums (including the memorably-named WE HATE YOU SOUTH AFRICAN BASTARDS),
the two parted ways in 1987, Coughlin eventually forming the Fatima Mansions.
Sean reemerged in 1990 with a solo album on Elvis Costello's Demon label,
entitled, oddly enough, HIGH LLAMAS. Settling in the London borough of
Camberwell, he recruited a band under that name, and the first product
released by the High Llamas was the 1992 mini-LP APRICOTS (a full-length
version of this record emerged in France as SANTA BARBARA). Critics were
quick to take notice of O'Hagan's blossoming songwriting.
At this point Sean met up with fellow Camberwell band Stereolab, who needed
a keyboardist for a U.S. and U.K. tour. This led to Sean appearing on three
Stereolab albums, playing keyboards and arranging brass and strings. He
also worked with Stereolab's Tim and Laetitia on British TV jingles and
themes.
The High Llamas continued to play and record, and eventually completed
their masterpiece GIDEON GAYE, recorded for less than 4000 pounds.
Originally released in 1994 on the UK indie label Target, the album drew
immediate raves. Q magazine observed that, "lovers of the Beach Boys, the
Beatles, Steely Dan and the heyday of American AM pop will find much to go
weak over here." N.M.E. noted, "It's all here: gorgeous, sweeping string
sections to die for; massive saccharine harmonies soaring into the clouds;
layer upon layer of impenetrable lyrical whimsy...WHOOSH! You're suckered,
gently." GIDEON GAYE made the ten-best lists of MOJO magazine, and,
presumably, spright popsters the Boo Radleys, who promptly asked Sean
O'Hagan to remix their next two singles (denoted as the "High Llamas mix").
In June 1995, Sean re-released GIDEON GAYE on his own Alpaca Park label in
the U.K. Around the same time the album had a brief release on the U.S.
indie label Delmore Records. In July, the High Llamas played a high profile
13-date tour of England with Mercury Rev. On October 2 they began a tour of
Europe with the Connells. A U.S. tour is planned for early 96.
The High Llamas are: Sean O'Hagan (vocals, guitars, keyboards), Jonathan
Fell (bass), Marcus Holdaway (keyboards), Rob Allum (drums), and John
Bennett (guitar).
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:39:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ben Waugh <sophisticatedsavage@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Tiki talk
... And from there, Thor Heyerdahl (Kon Tiki), James
Michener (Hawaii), Trader Vic (Mai Tai)
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:05:22 +0200
From: Moritz R <tiki@netsurf.de>
Subject: (exotica) the last real primitives...
truly exotic:
http://www.mulatta.org/Thaielephantorch.html
Just released - a CD of elephants in the Thai jungle playing specially designed musical instruments. The elephants improvise the music themselves. The Thai Elephant orchestra was co-founded by Richard Lair of the Thai Elephant Conservation Center in Lampang and performer/composer Dave Soldier. Most of the profits will go to the Conservation Center. The CD includes a twelve page color booklet that details the project
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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 03:09:54 +0800
From: "Jonny Perl" <delicado@cheerful.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas/Tindersticks
High Llamas
>1992 Santa Barbara
>1994 Gideon Gaye
>1996 Hawaii
>1998 Cold & Bouncy
>1999 Snowbug
>2000 Buzzle Bee
And incidentally, before 'Santa Barbara', there was also the fun, but less polished 'Apricots', a mini-album.
>Maybe tomorrow someone can give us an overview of the five records put out
>by the Tindersticks.
Alan, I'm sure you were joking, but after disliking them at first, I now rather like Tindersticks, so I hope everyone will forgive me...:
The group are sometimes very heavily influenced by Lee Hazlewood, to the extent that they lift small phrases from songs (e.g. 'a marriage made in heaven', available on the US version of 'Curtains' lifts the opening to 'Sand').
1) 'Tindersticks' first album (1992) - I find this a little aimless, but with some great, slightly country-ish pop songs hidden in there - 'city sickness', 'marbles', 'her' and the cool, twangy 'Paco de renaldo's dream'.
2) 'Tindersticks' Second album (1994), I'm very keen on - dark, emotional, spooky pop. 'My sister' is a standout track.
3) 'Nenette et boni' soundtrack (1996) - many people's favorite Tindersticks album, just because it features less vocals, and more atmospheric instrumentals. Duplicates some material from the second album.
4) 'Curtains' (1997) - This took time to grow on me, but I like it - dramatic instrumental pop. The prominent violin sound can be rather jarring, and not much of this could be described as 'easy listening'. It's good though.
5) 'Simple Pleasure' (1999) - at only 10 tracks, probably their shortest effort, but really very enjoyable. It has a very clean production, and is much less murky sounding than 'Curtains'. It's also more soul-influenced, with prominent use of backing singers.
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:17:07 +0200
From: Moritz R <tiki@netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki talk
If you want to know more, check out the eminent Tiki book "The Book of Tiki" by the #1 Tiki capacity Prof. Dr. Sven A. Kirsten, who got his own tiki mug recently, sculpted after his portrait.
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:33:06 +0200
From: Moritz R <tiki@netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer
alan zweig schrieb:
> "boring elevator music"???? Hello?
> You use such terms on this list?
yes, what about it?
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:49:31 -0400
From: nytab@pipeline.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) the last real primitives...
I have this and highly recommend it. The next release will be an "Easy Listening" CD by the TEO - they'll make some effort, probably through editing and careful instrument/performer matching, to create more atmospheric/ambient pieces.
Last year was the North American Frogs - this year is the Thai Elephant Orchestra - what's for next year?
Another fun project that involved David Soldier was the CD he made with Komar & Melamid called The People's Choice Music. The music was designed based on survey research and has 2 tunes: The Most Wanted Song (a musical work that will be unavoidably and uncontrollably ôlikedö by 72 ▒ 12% of listeners)
and The Most Unwanted Song (fewer than 200 individuals of the worldÆs total population will enjoy this)
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Moritz R <tiki@netsurf.de> wrote:
>
truly exotic:
http://www.mulatta.org/Thaielephantorch.html
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:53:48 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas/Tindersticks
At 03:09 AM 6/9/01 +0800, Jonny Perl wrote:
>
>>Maybe tomorrow someone can give us an overview of the five records put out
>>by the Tindersticks.
>
>Alan, I'm sure you were joking, but after disliking them at first, I now
rather like Tindersticks, so I hope everyone will forgive me...:
Well I was kidding. Sort of. But I do believe there are some contemporary
"pop" acts who have some connection with the kind of music discussed here.
And not just because we somehow incorporated "soft pop" into our discussions.
And the Tindersticks are one band that I feel are "relevant" to "our music".
One gets the feeling reading this list that a lot of people here listen to
nothing but "this kind of stuff". But I don't think that's true. I
remember a couple of years ago, I recommended the Lambchop record "Nixon"
on this list and I got a couple of notes from members who bought it and
appreciated it.
I wasn't surprised to hear someone talking about The High Llamas. I'm sure
they've come up before. I was surprised to see Moritz talking about them.
I for one would like it if people here felt free to recommend contemporary
stuff. As long as it was vaguely relevant.
For instance, something like...
"If you like the music discussed here and you also have a taste for
something contemporary, you might like".......
The reissued Shuggy Otis record "Inspiration Information".
Tortoise
Pernice Brothers
Dirty Three
Or not.
AZ
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:06:12 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer
At 09:33 PM 6/8/01 +0200, Moritz R wrote:
>
>
>
>alan zweig schrieb:
>
>> "boring elevator music"???? Hello?
>> You use such terms on this list?
>
>yes, what about it?
What about it? I like boring elevator music, that's what.
I think a lot of the music we discuss here qualifies as boring elevator
music, that's what.
I think a lot of people here collect boring elevator music, that's what.
I think most "straight" people who aren't on this list would call some of
the music that you like "boring elevator music", that's what.
I don't think "boring" and "elevator music" should be used in the same phrase.
I don't think elevator music is boring.
I'm listening to elevator music right now.
It elevates me.
That's what.
Using such terms does the opposite of elevating you.
That's what.
AZ
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:04:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ben Waugh <sophisticatedsavage@yahoo.com>
Subject: (exotica) Chances are they don't write liner notes like this any more
"The fickle lass, Jazz, is a volatile wench of
multicolored hues. She can be broadly bluesy or subtly
cool... . Though her demands may be finicky at times,
'La Jazz' imposes one basic prerequisite on those who
would court her: the music on which she swings MUST be
high caliber."
from Chances are It Swings, Shorty Rogers
This is a great disk, btw - players include Barney
Kessel and Red Norvo. Wish I could have found a vinyl copy.
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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:54:20 EDT
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica)the other sidewalk
In a message dated 6/8/1 8:50:47 PM, JB @home.com wrote:
>All you'd need is a red white and blue sequined hot pants outfit and a
>matching Rolls Royce in the driveway.
got it all except the driveway------------actually all i really have IS the
driveway and I'm considering widening it for a two car family...JB.wondering
how many out there have space age homes designed for only one car in the
driveway?
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:45:51 -0700
From: "Benito Vergara" <bvergara@sfsu.edu>
Subject: (exotica) boring elevator music
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of alan zweig
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:06 PM
> I don't think "boring" and "elevator music" should be used in the
> same phrase.
I was thinking about this. Wouldn't those folks of the "beautiful
instrumentals" ilk count as "boring elevator music?"
I was thinking primarily about Richard Clayderman, who (for me at least)
defines elevator music. (I kind of like the fact that Nancy Reagan
apparently called him "The Prince of Romance.") Indeed, when I was growing
up in the Philippines, I could hear Clayderman everywhere -- in restaurants,
office reception areas, sweepstakes commercials, those little interludes
when the world weather would scroll up the screen during a TV news show,
department stores, radio soap operas, TV soap operas, you name it. And
elevators, too.
Clayderman's arrangements were spectacularly bland and predictable too.
These almost-canned drumbeats would always enter during the first repetition
of the opening motif; indeed, everything was slowed down or speeded up to
the exact same tempo for most of his pieces (including "For Elise" and "Ode
to Joy").
I suppose there was something oddly fascinating about the utter blandness of
Clayderman's music (I'm only familiar with his late '70s output, though),
but it's just not interesting enough. Okay, it's just not interesting *at
all* -- and therefore "boring elevator music."
Later,
Ben
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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 02:41:39 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) boring elevator music
At 10:45 PM 6/8/01 -0700, Benito Vergara wrote:
>
>I was thinking about this. Wouldn't those folks of the "beautiful
>instrumentals" ilk count as "boring elevator music?"
>
>I was thinking primarily about Richard Clayderman, who (for me at least)
>defines elevator music.
Don't get me wrong. I think that there is such a thing as instrumental
music that is very very boring. And though I call the stuff I like "easy
listening", there certainly is easy listening music which is also boring.
And yes, the boring kind of easy listening instrumental music is the kind
that is often discussed, in my opinion, on the Beautiful Instrumental
mailing list.
But I was challenging Moritz on using the term "elevator music" And I
challenged him because I am certain that much of my favorite music would be
classified that way by the vast majority of music listeners.
To me this list is partly about a group of people who have found value in
what others have called "elevator music". So while I am the last one to
challenge anyone who feels like putting down a whole genre of music, I just
think we should come up with our own terms and not use the terms which have
been used to denigrate OUR taste in the past.
But yes Ben (you ingrate!), there is such a thing as beautiful yet boring
instrumentals.
AZ
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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 09:34:52 +0200
From: Edward <edjunkita@wanadoo.nl>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the last real primitives...
Great CD, great concept. The whole CD was downloadable a couple of weeks ago. Sorry, I can't
find the URL just now. The last track seems out of place, since it's an 'avant-garde' electronic piece.
Somehow I can't picture those elephants tweeking synthesizer knobs.
Moritz R wrote:
> truly exotic:
> http://www.mulatta.org/Thaielephantorch.html
>
> Just released - a CD of elephants in the Thai jungle playing specially designed musical instruments. The elephants improvise the music themselves. The Thai Elephant orchestra was co-founded by Richard Lair of the Thai Elephant Conservation Center in Lampang and performer/composer Dave Soldier. Most of the profits will go to the Conservation Center. The CD includes a twelve page color booklet that details the project
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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 12:24:08 +0200
From: Edward <edjunkita@wanadoo.nl>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the last real primitives...
I found the URL, but I think it's not up anymore. Just in case, here it is:
> Great CD, great concept. The whole CD was downloadable a couple of weeks ago. Sorry, I can't
> find the URL just now. The last track seems out of place, since it's an 'avant-garde' electronic piece.
> Somehow I can't picture those elephants tweeking synthesizer knobs.
>
> Moritz R wrote:
>
> > truly exotic:
> > http://www.mulatta.org/Thaielephantorch.html
> >
> > Just released - a CD of elephants in the Thai jungle playing specially designed musical instruments. The elephants improvise the music themselves. The Thai Elephant orchestra was co-founded by Richard Lair of the Thai Elephant Conservation Center in Lampang and performer/composer Dave Soldier. Most of the profits will go to the Conservation Center. The CD includes a twelve page color booklet that details the project
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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:10:38 EDT
From: Ashleywarren1@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) "Que Mango" and "Astrosounds" - A word of warning
Anyone who hasn't picked up the Les Baxter "Que Mango" or 101 strings
"Astrosounds" CDs on Scamp yet and who has considereed it should run to pick
them up asap.
The licensing period has just expired on these two titles and it is doubtful
anyone will be reissuing them in the very near future. This is not a
shameless attempt to get last minute sales as the distributor has no more to
ship to stores -- what is out in shops is all that there is ever going to be.
In a week or so, as is the industry proceedure, deletion notices will be sent
to shops requesting that return any stocks they do not wish to keep in their
inventory to be sent back for destruction (in keeping with the requirements
of the licensing contract).
Ashley
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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:13:31 EDT
From: Ashleywarren1@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tindersticks
I've always thought the lead singer of the Tindersticks sounded like he sang
with half a sandwich still in his mouth, but hey, that's me!
Ashley
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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 10:34:37 -0400
From: Will Straw <wstraw@po-box.mcgill.ca>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki talk
>Hi, folks:
I'm just back from Brazil, and just rejoined this list -- fell back into
things without missing a beat, it seems.
I'll report on the Brazil trip later, but I just wanted to say that I saw a
sign, last night, advertising a "Vente de Garage -- 15,000 articles de
Bali," somewhere in the south of the city today. 15,000 articles --
that's not too many.
Will
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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 13:51:58 EDT
From: Stilgloria@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin
I went to an "estate sale" today. There were two boxes of records. One
labeled $5 the other labeled $1. In the $5 box were albums like Bruce
Springsteen's "Born in the USA", and other such rock albums, nothing out of
the ordinary. In the $1 box I found two Lalo Schifrin, mint. I'm really glad
that some people don't know what they have. One of the Schifrin albums looks
like it may be from the 50s. It's titled "Spectrum" and the line up contains
titles that everyone has heard of. But when Schifrin is at the helm, there's
something wonderful. A tune so simple as "Red Sails in the Sunset" takes on
new vistas when in the hands of Schifrin. It's a great album. The other
album, which I haven't played yet is "Piano Strings and Bossa Nova". I had to
have it.
Gloria
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:31:07 +0800
From: "William" <king8egg@ms60.url.com.tw>
Subject: (exotica) umbrella records
hi all,
does anyone know anything about a label out of taipei, taiwan called
"umbrella records"? jack diamond is selling some stuff on this label, does
anyone have anything on this label? i rarely see stuff like this here(i mean
released on a local label) so i'm really curious if anyone has any contact
info or info on the label in general i'd like to hear about it. its probably
some sort of bootleg label but i'm real curious. one of the things he is
selling looks familiar so i may of seen it. i guess i can email jack and
ask, but it seems sort of weird to ask that so i thought i'd ask here first.
william in taipei.
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