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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:30:34 -0400
From: nytab@pipeline.com
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Pirates In Bali
Moritz R <tiki@netsurf.de> wrote:
> The entire music chapter of my visit was a bit disappointing. Neither did I appreciate the traditional music like Gamelan very much, nor did I find any Indonesian or Balinesian pop that I would buy. I guess one has to spend a little more time before one can get a survey on that scene.
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Mo,
Sorry to hear that you didn't get off on the local music. I've got a couple hundred Indonesian/Balinese/Javanese CDs and dig them all. I must have (at least) 8 different Kecak monkey chants just for a start. I'd whip up a sampler for the Exoticaring but I wouldn't know where to start. Of course there are Western versions of gambelan that you might like - Lou Harrison, Evan Ziporan, I've got one CD on Laserlight that mixes gambelan with Carribbean pans.
One guy you should check out is Sabah Habas Mustapha
http://members.aol.com/sabahhabas/
He has a radio show in Germany which you should be able to catch, over the air or over the web. I really dig his 3 solo CDs - and he's touring out your way in a few months. Just poke around his site for info and example sound files. He's playing in a Sunda/West Java dangdut style, not Balinese, but way cool.
Three books you would enjoy are:
Bali Modern : The Art of Tropical Living
Balinese Textiles
and most highly recommended
Images of Power : Balinese Paintings Made for Gregory Bateson and Margaret Mead by Hildred Geertz
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:37:38 -0500
From: Matt Marchese <mjmarch@charter.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ian Whitcomb
DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote:
> He recorded a song that many relatively early garage bands covered in '65
> called "You Really Turn Me On (C'mon Now Song)"...I guess I never saw him
> rising above the parody level, but what did (or do) I know?? JB
These days, he's taken on more of a role as a musical historian by reviving
popular tunes from the turn of the century. He's probably best known nowadays
for producing and performing on the CD "Titanic: Music As Heard On The Fateful
Voyage."
Parody or not, Ian's a lovely man who sent me a load of cool stuff when I asked
to get added to his mailing list. He also was nice enough to recommend an
ukulele to me when I was shopping around for one last year.
I also recall him fondly as a DJ on the Los Angeles radio station KROQ. His
shows were wonderfully eclectic, informative, and very entertaining.
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Matt Marchese
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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:57:01 +0200
From: Moritz R <tiki@netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ring of Fire goes to Bali
chuck schrieb:
> I'm surprised the gamelan music didn't suck you in.
It sucked me in - and spat me out.
> I've always been intrigued by
> the concept of Indonesian music which is based in part on 2 wheels
> turning and when a certain place on each wheel intersects that
> certain place on another wheel a big GONG goes off.
I guess to fully understand what you hear and see, you need more introduction, more experience and more performances of Gamelan music. In Vicky Baum's book "Tales of Bali", there are humerous descriptions of how the Dutch leaders are tortured and bored to death by incredibly long performances of the Legong dance, really funny. My #1 book recommendation BTW, if you go to Bali! #2 would be "The Beach", which is countless classes better than the film.
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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:57:46 +0200
From: Moritz R <tiki@netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Pirates In Bali
nytab@pipeline.com schrieb:
> Sorry to hear that you didn't get off on the local music. I've got a couple hundred Indonesian/Balinese/Javanese CDs and dig them all. I must have (at least) 8 different Kecak monkey chants just for a start. I'd whip up a sampler for the Exoticaring but I wouldn't know where to start.
Oh, you should really do that! If I had that much choice I would probaly have to change my judgement about Gamelan, which is only based on a very few experiences.
The Kecak dance is in fact an interesting phenomenon, as, although based on original Balinese dance styles, it was invented only in 1931 by a German artist, Walter Spies, for a film about Bali, called "Island of the Demons" and is performed for tourists as an original folkloristic dance ever since.
> One guy you should check out is Sabah Habas Mustapha
> http://members.aol.com/sabahhabas/
Ah, 3 Mustaphas 3, I've heard of them, when they had a coming out some 10 years ago, but I had no idea that it is Balinese music.
> Sunda/West Java dangdut style
I bought two CDs called Sunda Africa. They sound a bit like so called "world music" and I couldn't yet figure out, what they exactely are or come from. They are OK, but not more.
> Three books you would enjoy are:
> Bali Modern : The Art of Tropical Living
> Balinese Textiles
> and most highly recommended
> Images of Power : Balinese Paintings Made for Gregory Bateson and Margaret Mead by Hildred Geertz
I've seen all of them in Ubud, they are available here too, and for the same price. Since I own "Tropical Asian Style" I thought I don't need further books, but I'll give it another look!
