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exotica-digest         Sunday, April 29 2001         Volume 02 : Number 965



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(exotica) re:graeme revelle
Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related  names
(exotica) Cartridges
Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related  names
Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related  names
(exotica) Electric Spinach?
(exotica) Geraldine & Ricky Ventriloquist LP & MORE!
(exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic
Re: (exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic
(exotica) old chinese music
Re: (exotica) Geraldine & Ricky Ventriloquist LP & MORE!
Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries
Re:  (exotica) soft pop hair tributaries
Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered
Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered
Re: (exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic
Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries
Re: (exotica) organs and vocal suggestions
Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered
Re: (exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic
Re: (exotica) organs and vocal suggestions
Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered (carmine appice)
Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered
(exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, April 29
Re: (exotica)carmine appice
(exotica) Autographs
Re: (exotica) needle question
(exotica) book report: "Vintage Synthesizers"

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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 01:20:39 +0800
From: "William" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re:graeme revelle

>Although not the one you're looking for, he is also on the compilation
album
>"Necropolis, Amphibians & Reptiles" (1986 Music Brut) which is
interpretations
>of the music of mental patient and outsider painter/musician Adolf Wolfli.
>Also on this comp. are Nurse With Wound, a band well worth checking out.
>There was also a CD + Book called "Musique Brut Collection" (1994) (Don't
know
>what's on it though)

    i've heard that the cd version of "necropolis, amphibians &  reptiles"
only contains the tracks by graeme revelle. or maybe this "musique brut
collection" is really just the insect musicians and the wolfli music
compiled together on a single disc. i'm not sure as i have them both on
vinyl. but haven't heard them in years as they are in storage at my parents
back in the states. but i remember really liking them. especially the wolfli
record.

                william in taipei.




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Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:21:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related  names

Quoting [e-mail]:

>
> When Marisa and I get together we will, I'm sure, get a cat...and we
> both
> think "Esquivel" would be cool!

My buddy has a little tan and black Chihuahua named Esquivel. Sure, he's a
hispter, but it seems a good name for a leetle dog from Mexico. The formidable
Rex Doane at WFMU named his Chihuahua Tipitina after the New Orleans club, but
that dog now appears to be called "Tiki."

My own Chihuahua is named Googie, you know, after the exotic architecture that
goes with the exotic music.

there's a pattern here with silly people with silly dogs with silly names.

al


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Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:55:39 -0700
From: bigshot <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Cartridges

>Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:33:44 -0400
>From: "Brian" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Subject: (exotica) Cartridges
>
>Steve wrote:
>
>>- - How many hours of play does a needle have before it gets damaged?
>>I'm not sure exactly, but it would be in the thousands.
>This seems high but depends on a number of factors, including the
>composition of the stylus (diamond, sapphire..) the type of cantilever, the
>tracking force, and of course, the condition of the record. With all of the
>above factors at their worst case options, I'd say hundreds at best.

I have a Thorens TD165 with an Ortofon Moving Coil cartridge. I
bought it around 1982 and it's still working fine. About five years
ago, I got itchy and took it to a repair shop. The guy looked at it
under the microscope and said it showed almost no wear. I think with
a modern diamond stylus and a light tracking force, a cartridge will
last thousands, if not tens of thousands of hours.

>I wouldn't think a skp that causes the needle to jump is good for the
>diamond or the caltilever, and large scratches are doing much the same on a
>smaller scale. Light scraches probably wouldn't be as severe.

With the light tracking force of modern turntables, wear is going
to come about from hours of playing, not the occasional skip. The
damage to the cantilever caused by playing very warped records at
a high tracking force would be a serious problem though.

>Stanton are the industry standard and from experience at
>our station I can see why!  The Shure models we got didn't make
>it a month...  And its not a cost thing, as some of the most
>expensive cartridges are the most fragile.

They're also the best sounding. I have Stanton, Shure and Ortofon
cartridges and the Ortofon is the best sounding on LPs, and
the Shure is the best sounding on 78s.

>I think I mentioned a while back totally falling
>for the moving coil type cartrigde as the sound was so much warmer and
>detailed as compared to similar priced moving magnet models.  The problem
>with the moving coil is you may need a head amplifier stage as many of these
>cartridges are lower output, and you cannot replace the stylus yourself.

Since my moving coil cartridge has lasted nearly twenty years, I
guess I don't mind chucking it and getting a new one when it
wears out. That ought to be about ten years more.

See ya
Steve

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Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:56:09 -0400
From: "cheryl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related  names

We have a longhaired tabby cat, who's called Cosmo (yes, after the Seinfeld
character).  She's pretty psychotic, so it fits well...

cheryl



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Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:12:40 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related  names

citerar [e-mail]:

> there's a pattern here with silly people with silly dogs with silly
names.

That remainds me of a comic, picture yourself two characters, one of
them says: -The world is crowded with stupid idiots, the other replies:
What do you mean?


M


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Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:17:37 -0400
From: Craig Carlson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Electric Spinach?

>>By the way, how is that Ultimate Spinach?

>I think they suck, but I'm from Boston where they were part of the 1967
Great
>Rock And Roll Swindle AKA "The Bosstown Sound"...I haven't listened to them
>since 1968. Maybe I should re-listen. Maybe not

Oh, man, how can you say that about the creators of that quinessential '60s
drone-jam "Ballad of the Hip Death Goddess"? The rest of the lp was a
pretty direct steal of CJ & the Fish's Electric Music for the Mind and Body
(future exotica?), but they deserved that one moment in the sun.

Craig



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Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:23:42 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Geraldine & Ricky Ventriloquist LP & MORE!

Anyone else into Geraldine & Ricky?

The spooky as fu*k ventriloquist lady and her equally as malevolent spawn
puppet "Ricky".  For a groovy picture of the alias I have adopted on the net
(Ricky)... come check out my picture! (at the botoom of the page)
http://hometown.aol.com/hedcandy/HCHISTORY.html

Also, anyone else here a:
Sandy Nelson fan?
Arnie Akanuie fan?
Fan of Joe Puma Allstars "Like, Tweet" LP?
Fan of Tommy Boyd "Ah So! Suite " LP?

Disturbing Christian TV show fan? (Joy Junction, Dry Gulch)
Philosphy Video fan (Sagan, Michio Kaku, Society of Spectacle)
Have videos to trade?

Currently enjoying:
Tipsy - "Uh Oh"
POPSHOPPOING Volume 1 - Juicy Music From German Commercials 1960 - 1975 CD
(Crippled Dick Hot Wax! Berlin)
OMLOUNGE - "3" Various Artists CD featuring Fila Brazillia


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Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:52:52 -0700
From: "basic hip" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic

This John Dankworth soundtrack has been on my wish list for awhile now.

Like most soundtracks, I'll bet it is made up of some rather ordinary
material offset by those two or (if you are lucky) three killer tracks that
make the whole thing worthwhile.

Even though it is very collectible, I recall reading here (a long time ago)
that the score to Modesty Blaise is nothing to get too excited about.

I also recall hearing that there are two versions - one on 20th Century Fox
and one on Fontana - and that the UK release is "better".  But I'm not sure
I understand that if they are scores to the same movie.  Maybe a slightly
different track list?  The only one in my Soundtrack guide is 20th CF.

Anyway, I'm pickin your brains because both are up on ebay and my trigger
finger is on the "place bid" button, ready to splurge.  :)

even if you tell me not to bother with it, I probably will only because -
well, you know how it goes when you got it in your head that you have to
have something.

And even tho I know that it almost always ends in disappointment when I
pursue records like this, I just can't help myself...



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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 00:40:44 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic

The main theme, as Cal Tjader plays it on Espresso Espresso, is pretty great.
 And the movie is fab.


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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 23:15:51 +0800
From: "William" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) old chinese music

hi all,

   ok, for those that are interested i have dug up some sites on old chinese
singers/movie stars. some of these have sound samples though some of the
sites may not be in english but if you click around you should be able to
figure out what is what. i haven't checked out the sound samples myself yet,
so i'm not sure what this stuff sounds like, good or bad.

     http://www.geocities.com/xiao3mi1/

http://page.freett.com/leehsianglan/index.html

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/wildbill/691/pakok.htm

http://www.welcome.to/wuinging


                 william in taipei.



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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:24:14 -0500
From: Matt Marchese <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Geraldine & Ricky Ventriloquist LP & MORE!

[e-mail] wrote:

> Anyone else into Geraldine & Ricky?

Didn't they form a Christian-lesbian/dummy domestic partnership with Marcy
Tigner and Little Marcy back in 1995 and record a new version of "I Love Little
Pussy"?

> Disturbing Christian TV show fan? (Joy Junction, Dry Gulch)

I've heard of these, but have never actually watched them. I think I preferred
the less strident proselytizing of "Davey and Goliath" since it had that weird
Art Clokey LSD aura surrounding it. But doesn't Veggie Tales also feature
puppetry with a MESSAGE? I've had fundie relatives give these tapes to my
children. I have this one particularly frighteningly strident and jingoistic
Christian puppet video called "Zeke Loves America" featuring a fascist cowboy
puppet named Zeke who leads the kiddies in singing "God Bless America" while
fighter jets scream by in the background.

Some friends of mine used to put on an elaborate touring Christian puppet show
back in the late '70s/early 80's. They never made videos of their performances,
unfortunately.

- --
Matt Marchese
"I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a
nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate)
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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:02:48 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries

At 12:28 AM 04/27/2001, AZ wrote:
>At 10:17 PM 4/26/01 -0400, I wrote:
> >I have "The Cowsills In Concert" -- it opens with a studio cover of "Hair"
> >and the rest seems to be genuine live material. Side two gets sort of heavy
> >with tunes like "Sunshine Of Your Love"
>
>yeah that live album is not typical of their studio records. I have a
>feeling that live they were trying to prove they're a real band and they
>chose to do that through playing their instruments rather than sing their
>harmonies. If that's the only record of theirs you have, don't judge them
>by it.

No reports on "Captain Sad & His Ship Of Fools"?

On the live album, that's the bit that's sort of charming to me... that
feeling of "We're not wimps! We'll show you! Grrrr!"

There is more of their harmony stuff on Side 1. And I like the way everyone
gets their own little feature song to sing lead on. And strangely, the
young daughter's song reminds me of Mo Tucker's feature with the Velvets,
"I'm Sticking With You".

Now the VU songbook -- some great potential soft pop material there.
There's another imaginary album to daydream about. "The Free Design Sing
For Very Velvet People" -- all VU covers, recorded around 1970 or '71.

Right up there with "The Tijuana Brass & Nico".

>I have a live Association record too.  It's better than the Cowsills but
>again, it's no "Birthday".

How do you see "And Then... Along Comes The Association" in their ouvre?
(sorry, tried to avoid using that word, but my substitutes sounded even
stuffier) When I listened to it, it struck me that it was prime secret
source material for XTC, despite their acknowledged influences (never heard
them mention the Association).


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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:14:18 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) soft pop hair tributaries

>A band with long hair and
>sporting hideous side parts a-la "boy's "regular" haircut circa 1959 had to
>be less than comfortable with long hair, but was wearing it as a
>political/solidarisnoc (right Lech?) statement. Buy the album to be sure. A
>band with mid-head parts realized that side parts weren't manageable with
>long hair (allow some space for the early-age-follically-challenged).

The semiotics of hair-parts. I love it.

Back in the mid-80s, a little punk band you never heard of (and I can't
remember their name) did a song called "Hair-Part Is A State Of Mind". It
was their crowning achievement.

"you're no Brian Phillips",

- --m.ace



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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:14:38 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered

> > Big Jim Sullivan was a busy 60s session player in Britain.
> > Sort of the Tommy Tedesco of the scene?
>
>Oh urgh. I hope not. Tedesco was *such* a hack. I actually paid 10 bucks to
>attend a "seminar" he gave for aspiring session musicians back in 1981. It was
>a total crock. He sat around, told boring stories, and played the same guitar
>lick over and over again. I've wanted that hour of my life back ever since.

Sounds like the real lesson of the seminar was: "How to make quick change
from little guitar geeks."

Though I'm sure it still can't top the Carmine Appice Drummers' Camp. Not
that I was a camper (or drummer) myself, I have no story about it. But the
concept alone is enough.


- --m.ace



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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:24:55 -0500
From: Matt Marchese <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered

"m.ace" wrote:

>
> Sounds like the real lesson of the seminar was: "How to make quick change
> from little guitar geeks."

Well, I certainly fit the "little guitar geek" description. But in my own defense,
Tedesco had a regular column in Guitar Player magazine that fooled me, and many
other people, into believing that he was cultured, sophisticated, and possessed of
a godlike guitar talent instead of a tedious studio whore.

> Though I'm sure it still can't top the Carmine Appice Drummers' Camp. Not that I
> was a camper (or drummer) myself, I have no story about it. But the concept alone
> is enough.

Ha! I'm getting an image of 50 pimply faced adolescents in the woods pounding the
skins along to Vanilla Fudge LPs!

- --
Matt Marchese
"I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a
nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate)
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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:57:35 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic

on 4/27/01 11:52 PM, basic hip at [e-mail] wrote:

> Even though it is very collectible, I recall reading here (a long time ago)
> that the score to Modesty Blaise is nothing to get too excited about.

that's my opinion of it, although the theme is quite cool.

> I also recall hearing that there are two versions - one on 20th Century Fox
> and one on Fontana - and that the UK release is "better".

I have a mono British copy; it doesn't mention the David & Jonathan version
of the theme on the cover like the US version does. There is a vocal version
of the theme, and it may be David and Jonathan, but I have no idea who they
are.

This is one of those records that I bet sounds a whole lot better in stereo.
I'd love to hear that one of these days.

I've seen the film, which I also thought was so-so, although it was quite
nice to look at.

br cleve



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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:54:45 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries

At 12:02 PM 4/28/01 -0400, m.ace wrote:
>
>How do you see "And Then... Along Comes The Association" in their ouvre?
>(sorry, tried to avoid using that word, but my substitutes sounded even
>stuffier)

Well first of all that was one of the first couple of records I ever
bought.  From the Columbia Record Club (along with the first Simon and
Garfunkel record and the Best of both Bob Dylan and the Animals.)
"Along Comes Mary" is certainly one of the more distinct hit songs ever.
But when I reconnected with this record, the song that immediately returned
to my list of all time favorites was "Enter the Young".  The great thing
about that tune is that on the one hand it has the feeling of some kind of
proto-fascist thing Up With People might have recorded but on the other
hand, it's a lot of fun.
I sort of go along with the cliche that "Birthday" is the Association's
masterpiece but I don't think the other records are far off.  At least the
first four or five.  They eventually lost their way.  They should have
broken up before making records like  "Waterbeds in Trinidad".  (A good
title for a Van Dyke Parks record)

AZ



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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:57:19 -0700
From: "F. Cobalt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) organs and vocal suggestions

At 09:08 PM 4/26/01 -0700, F. Cobalt wrote:
>
>Can someone give me a few suggestions of organ >albums/songs with backing
>female vocals? As I recall there are some good ones >by Lenny Dee but I
>don't own any, and I'm sure there are other organists >out there that went
>down that path for a while.
>
>Can you be more specific?  Do you mean wordless >vocals - as in oohing and
>aahing- or do you mean the females actual sing >words?  I would assume that
>I'd have an answer to this at my fingertips but I >don't.  And I don't want
>to go looking without knowing what you want.
>(But off the top of my head for instance, Lenny Dee >does a version of
>"Peace Train" with female backing vocals but they >actually sing whole
>sections of the chorus.)
>
>AZ

I thought I've heard the oohing and aahing variety, which I prefer, but the other way is fine too. Organ with ba-ba-bas is good too if you know any.

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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:05:22 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered

At 11:24 AM 4/28/01 -0500, Matt Marchese wrote:
>
>Well, I certainly fit the "little guitar geek" description. But in my own
defense,
>Tedesco had a regular column in Guitar Player magazine that fooled me, and
many
>other people, into believing that he was cultured, sophisticated, and
possessed of
>a godlike guitar talent instead of a tedious studio whore.

Tedious Studio Whore.
There are so many people who deserve this and not all of them musicians.
I'm sure this was true of the late Tommy but didn't he at least make one
great record where for instance, he did some cheesy electric sitar version
of "I never promised you a rose garden"?  He must have.  All these guys
did, didn't they?

You know, you get fooled and buy those "guitar" records where Glen Campbell
and even Howard Roberts played boring 12 string guitar in the style of the
fifty snoozy guitars of Tommy Garrett.  But you can't write these guys off,
especially my beloved Howard.  As much as I love him, most of his records
are bad.  His seventies fusion stuff is surprisingly lousy.  But the guy
made at least nine true gems.

There must be a great Tommy Tedesco record, is all I'm saying.

He's also on some of those Mainstream records with Al Caiola and Mr.X.  Or
am I mixing him up?

(And by the way, my ex girlfriend's brother who was one of this country's
greatest jazz-rock drummers, used to give seminars.  Which isn't too scarey
until you find out that one of his side-projects was a band literally
called "Take a Solo".)

AZ



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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:16:20 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic

At 01:57 PM 4/28/01 -0400, Br. Cleve wrote:
>
>I have a mono British copy; it doesn't mention the David & Jonathan version
>of the theme on the cover like the US version does. There is a vocal version
>of the theme, and it may be David and Jonathan, but I have no idea who they
>are.

I just went through this very mystery.  David and Jonathan are Roger Cook
and Roger Greenway.  On the "Michelle" record, produced by George Martin,
it says their names are David Roger Cook and Jonathan Roger Greenway (or
the other way around.)
I'm reluctant to praise someone who wrote, among other things "I'd like to
teach the world to sing" and "I was Kaiser Bill's Batman".  And I have
decidedly mixed feelings about "My Baby Loves Loving" and "Here comes that
rainy day feeling again".  (All the above by Roger Cook)
Having said that, the Michelle record which I just heard the other day is
really very good.  It's like a cross between Chad and Jeremy and the
Righteous Brothers.

Heck, I'll even give you a website with some of this same info.

http://www.rogercook.com/notie5.asp

AZ



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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:24:05 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) organs and vocal suggestions

At 11:57 AM 4/28/01 -0700, F. Cobalt wrote:
>
>I thought I've heard the oohing and aahing variety, which I prefer, but
the other way is fine too. Organ with ba-ba-bas is good too if you know any.

Well I'll take a day or so to look.  Almost all my organ records are now
gone but there's some evidence left behind on CDR.
But off the top of my head, even though this is probably not what you
really want, there's this record by jazz organist Frederick Roach called
"All That's Good"  which uses this heavenly chorus of gospel ladies ooohing
and aaahing in the background.  It's on Blue Note.  I have no idea whether
it's been reissued.

AZ



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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:40:14 -0400
From: buMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered (carmine appice)

it is funny how things intertwine in life.
i have been all about Carmine Appice this week since i saw a clip of the
Vanilla Fudge on
Ed Sullivan doing You Keep Me Hanging On.
what a brilliant 3 minutes of LSD meets Motown.
the singer looks like Robert Goulet and tries to pull off overblown arm
gestures while he
fakes playing the Hammond. the rest of the band looks ridiculous but god
love em,
except Carmine who is sporting one hell of a hipster look and playing the
drums like nobody's business (or at least looking like he is), replete with
slick stick twirling.
the tunes rips pretty good thanx to him.
i also heard them doing Shotgun recently, which has some vicious drumming
as well.
and i just thought he was a drummer with a perm for Rod Stewart.

bump

>Though I'm sure it still can't top the Carmine Appice Drummers' Camp. Not
>that I was a camper (or drummer) myself, I have no story about it. But the
>concept alone is enough.

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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 19:38:07 -0500
From: Matt Marchese <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered

alan zweig wrote:

> Tedious Studio Whore.

Hmm. Now that I've written that, it seems a little harsh, but the guy was
really disparaging towards the people he'd worked with in the studio and
dismissed his contributions to a lot of those records outright. He also seemed
to take great glee in describing how he would go from session to session and
play the same lick at every one, just changing the effect, or the scale to make
it rock, country, jazz, whatever the producer wanted. That attitude just seemed
to define hackitude to me.

> didn't he at least make one great record where for instance, he did some
> cheesy electric sitar version of "I never promised you a rose garden"?

Funny. I asked him a question about the electric sitar. I'd never seen one and
wanted to know what they looked like and how you were supposed to tune it. He
gave me a very flippant and dismissive answer, as I recall.

> There must be a great Tommy Tedesco record, is all I'm saying.

He's appeared on a lot of great recordings which is why his whole attitude
during the seminar was so annoying. Maybe he was just having a bad day...kinda
felt like Shatner stuck at another Trek convention or something.

> (And by the way, my ex girlfriend's brother who was one of this country's
> greatest jazz-rock drummers, used to give seminars.  Which isn't too scarey
> until you find out that one of his side-projects was a band literally called
> "Take a Solo".)

Hopefully, that doesn't include a 12-minute cover of "Moby Dick".

"Wait a minute, this sounds like rock-and-or-roll!"
- -Rev. Lovejoy

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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:44:10 -0400
From: "cheryl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, April 29

Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome.

Space Bop #140    Did Somebody Say "Brazil"?

This week, we're in a Brazilian mood.  Two compilations landed in our
mailbox this week, and we thought they'd be fun to combine.  Big thanks to
Bump for "Brazilatino Au Go-Go" and Keith for "Brazil Variations" (21
versions of "Brazil"!!).

Chet Atkins & Les Paul:  Brazil
Gilberto Gil:  Cerebro Electronico
Mutantes:  Bat Macumba
Sesso Matto:  Kinky Peanuts

50 Guitars Of Tommy Garrett:  Brazil
Cal Tjader:  Soul Sauce
Tjader/Palmieri:  Guajira En Azul
Joao Donato:  Cala Bola Menino
Janko Nilovic:  Atchika Boum

Edmundo Ros & Orchestra:  Brazil
Francesco De Masi:  Diamond Bossa Nova
Daniele Luppi:  La Nudista
Vanoni:  Senza Paura (Sem Medo)
Elza Soares:  Deixo Isso Pra La

Ethel Smith:  Brazil
Henry Mancini:  Borderline
Slim Gaillard:  Yo Yo You
Ray Barretto:  Soul Drummers
Vengaboys:  Brazil


Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening

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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:40:37 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica)carmine appice

In a message dated 4/28/1 2:46:00 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>i have been all about Carmine Appice this week since i saw a clip of the
>Vanilla Fudge on
>Ed Sullivan doing You Keep Me Hanging On.
>what a brilliant 3 minutes of LSD meets Motown.
>the singer looks like Robert Goulet and tries to pull off overblown arm
>gestures while he
>fakes playing the Hammond. the rest of the band looks ridiculous but god
>love em,

You're talking to a fella who was such a Vanilla Fudge packer that he saw 'em
five times...That's  lot for a band that lasted about 2.5 years! The lead
singer is Mark Stein (www. markstein.com   I believe) and their arrangements
did two things for me: they climaxed my relationship with psychedelic music
and they brought me to soul music's door. Overblown though they were, I went
beserk over them. Particularly at a Weirs Beach (Lake Winnepausaukee, New
Hampshire) concert in the Summer of '68 where they were opened for by The
Barbarians...at Irwin Gardens, right next to the dock where you caught the
Mount Washington ferry...JB/New Hampshire summertime vet


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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:14:05 -0700
From: "Brian Linds" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Autographs

Okay all you autograph hounds! If anyone is interested in a copy of
Forbidden Island with Martin Denny, Harvey Ragsdale, Julius Wechter and
August Colon's autographs, let me know. I'm not a collector of signatures my
self (although I do cherish my signed placemat to my sister from Brian
Jones. I alas, lost mine years ago! "To Brian, from Brian. Hey man. We've
got the same name!"). If you want to arrange  a trade of some sort, let me
know off the list. The autographs say:
1)To Bob Lyon- My best personal regards to a real pro. Aloha. Martin Denny
6/4/52
2) Best wishes Bob - Julius Wechter
3) Like-Bob-Aloha.Harvey Ragsdale
4) August Colon- Bongols (he's drawn a set of bongos under his name)
The records in so so shape and the seam of the jacket is torn. But it's cool
all the same.
Bye for now,
Brian Linds




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Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:33:10 -0400
From: "Brian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) needle question

Robert wrote:

> I don't believe in needle wear.  That's my personal opinion.  Unless the
> needle is damaged by severe scratches or bubbles, it should last
> indefinitely.  Afterall, it's a diamond.  I can usually get 1000 hours
> easily.  HOWEVER, it's the cantilever you really have to worry about.
I can't say for sure as I too am no expert, however, I seem to remember
something about elliptical diamonds wearing differently than conical shaped
diamonds.  I also remember tracking force as having an effect, both if too
light or too heavy causing different wear patterns. You're right though as
it would seem a diamond would never wear, its just that this somehow sticks
in my memory.  Of course it may be my failing memory or I may have just read
one too many audiophile mags in my day. Serious audiophiles are (just a bit)
excessive...

Steve wrote:

> I have a Thorens TD165 with an Ortofon Moving Coil cartridge. I
> bought it around 1982 and it's still working fine. About five years
> ago, I got itchy and took it to a repair shop. The guy looked at it
> under the microscope and said it showed almost no wear. I think with
> a modern diamond stylus and a light tracking force, a cartridge will
> last thousands, if not tens of thousands of hours.
How does the guy know the original shape of the diamond? With a very light
tracking force, your stylus may last 20+ years, but you'll wear the top
edges off all your record grooves! I had a TD165 years back and a lot of
trouble keeping it working. I used a Stanton on the recommendation of the
experts I consulted with at the time as it wasn't a particularly delicate
tonearm mechanism, so it seemed a good match. To be fair though, I bought my
turntable used, and I think that was a good part of the problem.

> >Stanton are the industry standard
> They're also the best sounding. I have Stanton, Shure and Ortofon
> cartridges and the Ortofon is the best sounding on LPs, and
> the Shure is the best sounding on 78s.
This is, as always a totally subjective thing, as every person likes
something different about the sound quality. Some prefer warmth, some the
detail, and some just the price!  There is also a huge range of cartridges
within manfacturers lines, Ortofon and Shure in particular. I personally
have no reason to ever change from my Signet OC-9 from Audio Technica, but
that's my preference. BTW, the recommendation for it came from a reputable
source, Wilson Audio in New Orleans. Most important though, it worked for my
ears!

> Since my moving coil cartridge has lasted nearly twenty years, I
> guess I don't mind chucking it and getting a new one when it
> wears out. That ought to be about ten years more.
James asked for advice and I guess on this subject Steve, we will simply
have to agree to disagree. In any case with the kind of records in James'
collection I think they deserve better than 20+ years of regular use between
a cartridge change. I know my own collection deserves better! What you
choose to do, is of course your choice, and your alone to make.

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Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:47:39 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) book report: "Vintage Synthesizers"

"Vintage Synthesizers"
Mark Vail
(Miller Freeman Books)

All about old, analog synthesizers (and other keyboard instruments) from
roughly 1962 to the 80s, though there are also photos of an Ondes Martenot
and an early Bob Moog synthesizer. Much of the material originally appeared
in "Keyboard" magazine, I think. Some chapters are authored by other
writers, including a few by Bob Moog himself (there's also a pretty funny
account of Moog's first experience of an Emerson, Lake & Palmer live show,
including a chance encounter with a terrified Gershon Kingsley). Coverage
of brands from famous to obscure seems pretty complete -- company
histories, instrument descriptions, etc, etc. There are also sections on
Mellotrons, electric pianos, combo organs, clavinets and the like. Even the
Optigan. Also chapters on care and feeding of vintage synths, along with
tips for shoppers. The book has been around for a while, but this is the
"updated and expanded" second edition from 2000. Summary: steamy stroke
book for synth fanciers.


On the same subject...

I see that PAiA Electronics has come out with their first modular analog
gear in many years:
http://www.paia.com/p9700s.htm

Now with midi control. Yum.


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