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exotica-digest Thursday, April 26 2001 Volume 02 : Number 962
In This Digest:
RE: (exotica) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BeautifulInstrumentals
Re: (exotica) LP finds.....
Re: (exotica) LP finds.....
(exotica) organ records
Re: (exotica) LP finds.....
Re: (exotica) needle question
Re: (exotica) organ records
Re: (exotica) LP finds.....
Re: Re: (exotica) LP finds.....
(exotica) Cartridges
(exotica) Rare groove reissues? & where came the Monster groove from
(exotica) Haare
(exotica) For fans of the sadly lost FringeWare,
(exotica) new releases (from Other Music's e-letter)
Re: (exotica) organ records
(exotica) soft pop/rock query
Re: (exotica) Ironic Enjoyment
(exotica) debbie diamond
Re: (exotica) recent buys
(exotica) Japanese latin
Re: (exotica) Japanese latin
(exotica) organ records
(exotica) dreaming again
RE: (exotica) dreaming again
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:58:23 +0200
From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" <weirdomusic@wxs.nl>
Subject: RE: (exotica) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BeautifulInstrumentals
Johan wrote:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BeautifulInstrumentals :
> a group about with hardcore EZ.
I've been a member of that list for a couple of weeks. They're a bunch of
friendly people, that's for sure. But they're a bit TOO hardcore EZ. They
keep raving about James Last all the time. In fact they refer to him as
'Hansi' all the time. Yuck!
Marco
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:09:51 -0400
From: Clayton Black <clayton.black@washcoll.edu>
Subject: Re: (exotica) LP finds.....
> From: "Daniel Shiman" <daniel_shiman@hotmail.com>
> The organ certainly has a lot of potential for weirdness, though I've never
> ventured down the perilous road of organ records beyond one or two Earl
> Grant and Jackie Davis LP's. But have oft wondered whether there are some
> slept-on organ records that I shouldn't be passing up at the thrifts. Any
> recommendations? Clayton (if you are a Lenny Dee fan)? Anyone?
I think the sound of a Hammond organ, or rather its absence from popular
music of the last 25 years, is one of the reasons I got into this kind of
music (whatever it should be called). When I first bought a CD player in
about '88 I had no idea what CDs to buy, so I picked up a Verve compilation
of Wes Montgomery (not Hammond, I know, but I'm getting there). I liked it
so much I bought others in the series, and it was at that point that I
discovered Jimmy Smith--I was hooked. He's still one of my favorites. As I
migrated to thrift-diving, I looked for other organists, and, of course,
Lenny Dee and Earl Grant were among the first that I found. Neither of them
compares to Jimmy Smith, but I do get a kick out of them. But as for
"slept-on records," I don't know. I really like Sir Julian and Walter
Wanderley more than Lenny or Earl (Lenny sometimes gets too campy for me,
and too many of Earl's arrangements are at snore-tempo), and I just picked
up Buddy Cole's "Powerhouse," which I enjoy (even though a lot of his other
stuff I find boring). Denny McLain's albums are funny but not terribly
imaginative (with the exception of Girl from Ipanema, which is one of my
favorites).
Some of my favorite organ work is just as accompaniment. There's a Ray
Rausch album called something like "Flutes Front and Center!" with a flute
chorus that nevertheless features a rockin' Hammond accompaniment. Another
smart accompaniment is on Nancy Wilson's version of "On Broadway." And of
course "Mr. Lucky"--what can I say? (I think Alan might suffer apoplexy if
we return to "The Mustang.")
But I've been burned enough times buying organ albums that I look them
over very carefully first--even if they cost only 50 cents. I keep trying
to give some of them a chance, but most of them repel rather than satisfy.
Clayton
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:19:53 -0500
From: "Darrell Brogdon" <dbrogdon@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>
Subject: Re: (exotica) LP finds.....
> I just picked up Buddy Cole's "Powerhouse," which I
> enjoy (even though a lot of his other stuff I find boring).
A couple of other Buddy Cole organ records worth searching for --
the mostly Latin "Swing Fever" (Jack Costanzo on bongos!) and
"Ingenuity in Sound", Buddy's entry in the Stereo Workshop series
at Warner Bros. (with Buddy on the dual Hammond organ), which
features a really smokin' version of "Caravan".
Darrell Brogdon
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:02:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bruce Lenkei <lenkei@echonyc.com>
Subject: (exotica) organ records
Some of my favorites:
Buddy Cole - Hot and Cole
Dick Hyman - Electrodynamics, etc, etc.
Bob Ralston, one of Lawrence Welk's keyboard players, he has at least one
pretty swingin' album out there. Can't recall the name of it, however.
Eddie Layton - also some decent stuff, depending which album
Eddie Osborn - Organ and Bongos. This is quite nice, but I have never
heard of him on anything else.
And of course, The Three Suns are pretty organ-heavy on some records.
- - Bruce
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:17:49 EDT
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) LP finds.....
In a message dated 4/25/1 12:06:01 PM, azed@pathcom.com wrote:
>(Don Ho did some legitimately good tunes by the way. Don't di....s the Ho!)
And add to the autographed LP's one finds the countless ones you come across
while thrifting, usually recorded by a former local performer/band and
obviously sold to a fan at a show. These were done by groups like The Near
East Trio and the signing usually reads something to the effect of "To Lynne,
we value you as a fan. Long live Near East!!!! Love, Mustafah"...JB
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:19:28 EDT
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) needle question
In a message dated 4/25/1 12:20:20 PM, jamesbrouwer@hotmail.com wrote:
>- How many hours of play does a needle have before it gets damaged?
rule of thumb...one year per needle, five per cartridge..JB/seen the needle
and the damage done
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:26:30 -0400
From: Clayton Black <clayton.black@washcoll.edu>
Subject: Re: (exotica) organ records
> From: Bruce Lenkei <lenkei@echonyc.com>
> Bob Ralston, one of Lawrence Welk's keyboard players, he has at least one
> pretty swingin' album out there. Can't recall the name of it, however.
I love this guy. I've got two Bob Ralston albums, both pretty sleepy, so
I'd be interested to know which one swings. But his appearances on Welk are
part of the reason I still try to catch the PBS reruns (as long as it's not
near a religious holiday)--he's got the look of a man in the flush of
middle-class contentment: easy smile, confident, happy, happy tunes, and
garrishly attired. Long fingers gliding easily over the keys, occasionally
a little leap for the perky numbers. I once recorded him playing a terrific
rendition of Summer Samba--he looked to be in bliss, alone on the stage at
his "Thomas" organ. He was the host of one of the reruns and you can
hardly recognize him now. He's heavier, and he seems to stick to the
plodding church tunes.
Clayton
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 12:26:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ben Waugh <sophisticatedsavage@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) LP finds.....
And the fabulous Frankie Burke:
http://www.frankieburke.com/
>
These were done
> by groups like The Near
> East Trio and the signing usually reads something to
> the effect of "To Lynne,
> we value you as a fan. Long live Near East!!!! Love,
> Mustafah"...
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:51:35 EDT
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) LP finds.....
In a message dated 4/25/1 2:27:35 PM, sophisticatedsavage@yahoo.com wrote:
>And the fabulous Frankie Burke:
>
>http://www.frankieburke.com/
great find! seeing guys like this doing what they love to do makes life
worthwhile. sure, he's got the commercial thang happenin', but dollars to
donuts he's fulfilling a lifetime's worth of dreams by being himself...JB/got
a little Frankie in him
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:32:15 -0700
From: bigshot <bigshot@spumco.com>
Subject: (exotica) Cartridges
exotica-digest wrote:
>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:19:45 -0000
>From: "james brouwer" <jamesbrouwer@hotmail.com>
>Subject: (exotica) needle question
>
>I'm not much of an audiophile so pardon my ignorance. I have one turntable
>and one needle. It's getting a bit old. But how old is too old?
>- - How many hours of play does a needle have before it gets damaged?
I'm not sure exactly, but it would be in the thousands.
>- - How can you tell if it is damaged?
If your records sound thin and a little distorted when they
didn't use to sound like that, or when you notice that you
are getting excessive wear from repeated playings, it's time
to change the stylus.
>- - Do scratchy records damage it?
Not really, but dirty records can gum up a stylus.
>- - Are some needles heartier than others?
Yes, DJ cartridges have a very strong cantilever, and require
a higher tracking force. They are generally more durable than
audiophile cartridges that track at lighter weights.
Hope this helps...
See ya
Steve
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:51:55 +0200 (MEST)
From: Hemmel@gmx.net
Subject: (exotica) Rare groove reissues? & where came the Monster groove from
Charles Moseley charlesm@contentrepublic.com wrote:
>These sound like new releases rather than reissues. And I for one don't =
>do
>new rare groove. So nyah! :-)
I never can say something like that in general, because there are always
exceptions. For example, now I like the sea groove 45 from Big Boss Man. Great
to mix it with Apache by the Incredible Bongo Band or even I am Alive by Don
Fardon, because they all have the same similar groove. And this produce the
question where this Monster groove (ca. 110 to 118 bpm) original came from. I
thought that IBB's Apache is from the early 70s and I am Alive is from 1969.
Also Derby (1969) by Theo Schumann Combo (amiga a go go vol 1) has something
from that groove in the beginning. So it is possible that the original
creation were made ca. about 67 to 69. Anyone has an Idea ? or know other tracks
with that magic groove (or similar grooves like that ?) (btw, the groove has
bongos or congas in it, so this is also an exotic question, isn't it ?)
Martin
>>>
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:59:55 -0500
From: Matt Marchese <mjmarch@charter.net>
Subject: (exotica) Haare
A friend of mine just sent me a CD he made from the LP of the original
German cast recording of "Hair". It's a pretty strange experience
listening to something that you know well in your native language
translated into something else that seems...well...just slightly
off-kilter. I had much the same experience when I lived in Hamburg and
watched dubbed versions of "The Simpsons" and "Star Trek".
Nevertheless, it's wonderful stuff. I was pleasantly surprised by how
"groovy" the music is and you can't beat the unintentional humor
provided by untranslateable terms like "voodoo" and "mau mau" popping up
in the middle of otherwise solid Hochdeutsch. If anyone here has any
other non-English soundtracks to musicals (like "Oh, Calcutta"), I'd be
willing to trade.
- --
Matt Marchese
"I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a
nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate)
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:11:33 -0500
From: Mimi Mayer <mimim@texas.net>
Subject: (exotica) For fans of the sadly lost FringeWare,
a report. What happened this fall when artists redid the outside mural?
http://independentaustin.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/06/2239211&mode=thread
Mimi
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:06:58 -0400
From: Lou Smith <lousmith@pipeline.com>
Subject: (exotica) new releases (from Other Music's e-letter)
Featured New Releases:
ZERO 7 "Simple Things" (Ultimate Dilemma, UK) CD $18.99
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The band of the moment, Zero 7, were commissioned by Radiohead to
remix 'Climbing up the Walls' before they had released a single
track. Their ltd. edition debut 12" on their own label is now one
of the most sought-after records of now. Next they worked their
magic on Lambchop's 'Up with People' single, making them huge in
the UK dance market (Who would have guessed that an alt-country
band would appeal to dance music fans). Then came "EP2," four
tracks of beautiful soulful electronics, and once again in a
limited edition. And here is the debut full-length that is making
the likes of Gilles Peterson, Ross Allen, every British glossy and
newsprint music rag, and the rest of the world foam at the mouth.
They are touted as the "British Air", with lush orchestral
arrangements, downtempo beats, more soulful vocals, and a certain
fondness for obscure psychedelic Italian soundtracks and David
Axelrod. This brilliant LP that will definitely propel these Brits
into a league with Air, Kruder and Dorfmeister, and Thievery
Corporation. Along with the Avalanches, Bonobo, and Blue States,
they're striving to make the 2001 "the year of downtempo." Don't
just believe me, listen for yourself. Essential! [JS]
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fer_url=email
[V/A] "Music for Dancefloors: The Cream of the Chappell Library
Sessions" (Strut, UK) CD $16.99
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RealAudio: http://64.27.65.90:8080/ramgen/othermusic/nnardini.rm
Usually an artist writing a piece of music has a purpose in mind,
whether it's for their own record, a soundtrack, or a commission.
But Library music remains in limbo, and, in a way, is birthed in
limbo as well. Though talent is never missing, the intangible
quality of personality is usually absent, giving even the most
specific arrangement the sense of drifting in weightless space.
Many artists have flourished in this inexplicit, nearly egoless
environment, most remarkably Roger Roger and Nino Nardini, both of
whom have contributions on this, the second disc in Strut
Records' "Music for Dancefloors" library music series. I guess ego
is not entirely absent--but a session musician's reputation was
usually confined to the limits of the internal music industry--any
time it went to the public via radio or TV, it went there without
a name. Which, too, offers an arranger a different kind of
freedom, one from producing music attached to any kind of
expectation. Plus the fact that the musicians here didn't own
their work--it was all for hire. This CD starts around 1967, the
dawn of where psychedelia, free jazz, and funk began to creep
their way into what was previously (usually) sets of impossibly
bland musical ideas. The CD also stretches into the recent past
(1998), to where musicians may still have creative freedom but no
longer the fiscal ability to work with sets of session orchestras
or ensembles--they have to be created/recorded either one track at
a time or entirely computer assembled. This is, hands down, the
best collection of library music I've ever heard. Usually there is
a blankness to the library music proceedings--instead, here, the
energy, creativity and personality is at a peak. Whether dancing
around jazz and solid African rhythms, creating weird sounds with
breaths (the opening track knocks you on your ass), making all
kinds of combinations you never expected (like the island rhythms
with twinkly moog, funky bass and surf guitar on Nardini's 'Afro-
Beat/Afro Syn'). [RE]
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JOHN ZORN "The Gift" (Tzadik) CD $14.99
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John Zorn's acknowledged his influences quite openly, from the
tribute records that first brought him popular success (the musics
of Ornette Coleman and Ennio Morricone), and often synthesized his
inspirations into music (Godard, klezmer), but this CD, even
though it fits his composing methods, seems to be an entirely
different animal than we've yet encountered from him. "The Gift"
has the grace and mellow of his Bar Kokhba projects, yet draws on
his love of 'the exotic', music from the far, middle, and near
east, from the Pacific rim and the 1950s. But it has absolutely
none of the macho posturing which Mr. Zorn oft marks his projects
(like a dog marking territory). Even guest Mike Patton, king of
the growl and grimace, lifts his voice like an angel in luminous
echoes next to Zorn's withering theremin and clean electric piano.
Light and traveling, the music is rendering in twinging guitar,
soft stereo hand percussions, melodies that swoop between
cultures, burnished shakuhachi, zinging jew's harp. While labeled
with a smirk as "Music for Romance" and "For Lovers Only", it
transcends that smirk into genuine open appreciation for the form
of exotica/easy-listening, so much so that he's made one of the
best easy listening records _ever_, surpassing Baxter, Denny, etc.
in serious depth and breadth. [RE]
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[VA] "Serge Gainsbourg: Pop Sessions" (Mercury, France) CD $16.99
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Another in a series of 2001 releases from Mercury in France
commemorating the 10th anniversary of the death of Serge
Gainsbourg. On "Pop Sessions," countrymen from the French music
scene attempt to put their own spin on the Gainsbourg oeuvre.
Contributions from both Jane Birkin and Francoise Hardy ('Ces
Petits Riens') go a long way in adding a high degree of
credibility to this particular tribute, but unfortunately don't go
far enough to make this album a total success. First the mis-
steps: Faudel sucks the life out of 'Elisa,' replacing nearly all
the cabaret elements with lame piano and string accompaniment
while Menelik's lazy and hollow reading of 'Initials BB' sounds
downright disrespectful. But Birkin does score for her pleasant
duet with Etienne Daho on 'Mon Amour Baiser' even though she falls
a bit flat with an overly maudlin version of 'La Javanaise.' Rita
Mitsouko, who channels Gainsbourg better than most here, takes a
new-wave approach to 'L'hippopodame' making it edgy and sexually
charged. But ironically, it's the one track not from a French
artist -- and the only one sung in English -- that is a true
standout. The Scottish band Texas transform 'Je T'Aime...' into the
sultry and haunting 'Guitar Song' and succeed in delivering one of
the best Gainsbourg covers/re-interpretations I've ever heard. Brace
yourself, more of these tribute albums are planned for later this year.
But I'm betting that no one tops Texas in paying tribute to the
astounding legacy of Gainsbourg. [TC]
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Restocks:
ARLING AND CAMERON "Sound Shopping" (Basta, Netherlands) CD $13.99
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The "long-lost" second album from Arling and Cameron, "Sound
Shopping" is a musical and visual collaboration with comic artist
Joost Swarte featuring additional contributions from Fay Lovsky.
Considered by some A&C aficionados to be their best work to date
the CD is finally widely available (in a regular jewel box) after
limited release of an expensive "comics" edition and a fancy
digipak version. Epitomizing their "all-in" approach to music,
Arling and Cameron touch on a host of musical styles and genres in
just seven songs (there are three additional remixes). On 'Bimi
Mix' A&C cut in swatches of Eddie Cochran guitar licks over a
pulsing and relentless electronic dance beat. 'Cowboy Ska' melds
spaghetti-western soundtracks to a Jamaican backbeat and
gleefully goofy vocals (plus whip noises and horse whinnies!). The
breezy '60s pop of 'Jealousie' recalls France Gall with a just a
hint of Phil Spector. They touch on bossa nova with 'Fun Shopping'
and samba with 'Tsja Tsja'. Overall, a remarkable musical
achievement that hits it's mark without ever sounding contrived.
A very welcome reissue. [TC]
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:16:29 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) organ records
At 03:02 PM 4/25/01 -0400, Bruce Lenkei wrote:
>
>Buddy Cole - Hot and Cole
>Dick Hyman - Electrodynamics, etc, etc.
>Eddie Layton - also some decent stuff, depending which album
>Eddie Osborn - Organ and Bongos.
Excellent choices all. Especially the last one.
I love the organ. I would say it's the single most important instrument in
the Now Sound groovy instrumentals I'm hooked on. Even more important than
guitar.
But when I said I wished someone collected organ records, I didn't mean the
good ones like those above or the various jazz organists like Jimmy Smith,
Big John Patton, Jimmy McGriff, Jack McDuff etc etc
And I didn't mean the good lounge ones like those above or (a lot of) Lenny
Dee, Ethel Smith, Sir Julian etc. Or the great Dick Hyman whose Command
records are allk classics (not the piano ones, the organ and moog ones.)
I meant the one-off, giant Wurlitzer and organ demonstration records. The
stuff made in the spirit of George Wright.
For instance "Claude Dupras on the Yamaha organ". On the back there are
pictures of three organs, the Ex-42, the E-5AR and the VC45D. I suppose
the record is supposed to demonstrate the differences in the organs but in
the meantime it has one of the most amazing versions of "Mission
Impossible" I've ever heard.
The records you'll only find at thrift stores.
But getting back to the "lounge/NOW sound" organist, check out:
Howard Blake - "Hammond in Percussion"
Sy Mann and Nick Tagg - "2 Organs and Percussion" (on Grand Awards)
Cookie Carr plays Cool Organ with a Solid beat
Marty Gold "Organized for Hi-Fi"
T.W. Ardy - "Hammond in Gold"
and then in the narrow field of "organ exotica"
Wim Moens - Hammond Goes Tijuana
Kip Anderson and the Tides - "Shango! Night in a Quiet Village"
I can't quite tell but I thought one of you said you were avoiding organ
records.
Don't.
AZ
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:56:33 -0700
From: "Benito Vergara" <bvergara@sfsu.edu>
Subject: (exotica) soft pop/rock query
Hello folks,
In the April '01 issue of Mojo (the one with the Smiths on the cover),
there's an interview with Chris Dedrick of The Free Design. The sidebar that
comes with the article features three "soft rock classics," and I am,
unfortunately, too ignorant to have ever heard of them.
They are:
Orpheus - s/t
The New Colony Six - Attacking a Straw Man
Roger Nichols and The Small Circle Of Friends - s/t
Comments? Any of them worth checking out?
Thanks in advance,
Ben
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 00:17:49 -0700
From: Christine Karkow <cpkarkow@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ironic Enjoyment
on 3/25/01 12:38, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote:
>
> At 03:24 AM 3/25/01 EST, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 3/23/1 9:22:56 PM, bigshot@spumco.com wrote:
>>
>>> I think that the focus on novelty
>>> is responsible for the downturn in interest in exotica music
>>> over the past year or two.
>>
Speaking of perhaps novelty music, what do you guys think about Wesley
Willis? his music is on one hand just plain funny, but on another hand, it
elicits a strong cult following that I personally feel pretty strongly.
Sure, hearing his vulgar phrases is humorous, but, the music along with the
lyrics always fires me up in a genuine way. the fact that a schizophrenic
person can present his thoughts in such a way as to connect with so many
people to me is amazing and fabulous.
christine
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:07:09 +0800
From: "William" <king8egg@ms60.url.com.tw>
Subject: (exotica) debbie diamond
is this the same debbie diamond who did vocals on the durutti column cover
of "white rabbit" back in the 80s? i think it was a one off single but has
been tacked on the end of the "domo arrigato" live in japan cd release.
william in taipei.
>Modern soft pop doesn't get much more sophisticated than this.
>Debbie Diamond (a Dianne Kral lookalike) sings with one of the most
>beautiful sensual voices around these days. She possesses a Dusty
>Springfield ala the Look of Love voice. This is 60s pop! The
>whole lp is full of well written catchy melodies that stick in your
>head. Mitch Maker sounds a lot like Miles Davis on the Kinda Blue
>lp and his horn blends perfectly with Ms Diamonds voice.
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:20:58 +0800
From: "William" <king8egg@ms60.url.com.tw>
Subject: Re: (exotica) recent buys
>>...great to hear the markko polo adventurers. something i
>>really want more of.
>I am willing to trade you a Markko Polo Adventurers CD-R for
>some cool Chinese 50's/60's (I'm dying to hear more from the Quests!)
we can discuss a trade off list. but in the meantime who are the quests?
i'm not sure the chinese stuff i have is what you are looking for as it is
still rather on the traditional side.
>Harry "the Crown" Hosono worked with Van Dyke Parks before
>making three pre-YMO "exotica" albums:
>
>Tropical Dandy 1975
>Bon Voyage Co. 1976
>Paraiso 1978
bon voyage co. surfaced here but disappeared before i could pick it up.
i'm hoping it will show up again soon though. i plan to pick up some of his
other releases this weekend if they are still there.
>just one or two, nothing special though. Do you know any other chinese
>sites to DL from?
not right now but i'm still looking. recently there has been a crackdown
on chinese sites(in taiwan) with mp3s that you can download. i don't know if
they'd go after the oldies though like this. you might try plugging in "ge
lan" or "grace chang" or "sun ling" or "chou hsuan" on napster and see what
you get. i haven't tried it myself though. speaking of grace chang does
anyone have her lp that was released in the states?
>>...jonny's musical taste site...
>>...i highly reccomend that people check out
>>his site: http://www.psychedelicado.com/indexmt.html
>I always miss audio examples on sites like this.
i think that's what the napster link is for.:)
william in taipei.
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 09:19:22 +0100
From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk
Subject: (exotica) Japanese latin
Then of course Edmundo Ros was very popular in Japan too, recording several
LP's of Japanese Military Marches in a Latin style according to the recent
documentary. Although they didn't play any of them as I recall.
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 09:08:33 +0200
From: Edjunkita <>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A good day at the record store!
The German Werner Muller & Orchester did many LPs of "Latinized" traditional
Japanese folksongs on the Polydor label. Latin music was and still is very
big
in
Japan (but then, what isn't ?) I have a double CD called Rhythms from South
America". It's Japanese Latin music from 1931-1957, and features a Latinized
Japanese propaganda song about Japan's superiority over China during the
invasion in the thirties. The lyrics are half Japanese/Chinese, the
"Chinese"
melody sounds just as fake as Hollywood "Chinese" music.
"Jingle Bells" seems to be a popular song for Asians to Latinize. The
Japanese
Mambo singer Tony Tani did a version, and I have a Chinese Latin "Jingle
Bells"
sung by either Deng Bai Ying and/or Yeh Ming on a 10" called "Calender
Girl",
from a musical of the same name. This has also a great song which translates
as "I love Cha Cha". One half of the lyrics I don't understand, the other
half
goes:
"CHA CHA CHAAA, CHA CHA CHAAA, CHA CHA CHA-AH-AH, CHA CHA CHAAA,
CHA CHA CHAAAA!"
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:18:35 +0200
From: Edjunkita <edjunkita@wanadoo.nl>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Japanese latin
G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote:
> Then of course Edmundo Ros was very popular in Japan too, recording several
> LP's of Japanese Military Marches in a Latin style according to the recent
> documentary. Although they didn't play any of them as I recall.
I guess every Western musician touring Japan did a Japanese Military Marches
album
or two, there's so many of them! I have one by trumpet player Nini Rosso. The
songs range from between 1894-1967, but most are from WW2. It's amazing that
the Yen would make all these Western musicians play songs glorifying militarism
from the time when Japan was the enemy of the free world.
If I were in Japan on a more regular basis, I would start collecting them just
for the
hell of it. And they're the cheapest vinyl you can find there too, because all
Japanese
record collectors hate them.
That Edmundo Ros documentary was a great, eh? I could kick myself for not
taping it
at the time.
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:04:46 +0100
From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk
Subject: (exotica) organ records
I did think about getting on board this train for a while, and for about 6
months bought every organ record I saw.
Its too much, and there is so much crap, I think possibly more than any
other. But it is well sub-genred.
Classical Organ music: Bach and stuff, I would say wasn't on my list, but
its there, and no doubt has its odder perpetrators.
Cinema Organ: This is a big field here, there used to be a radio show on
BBC radio 2 that broadcast from different cinema's around the UK ("and this
week we are broadcasting from the organ at the Odeon Cinema in Tooting"),
this is the trainspotting of the organ world. Big pipe organs made by all
the major players, Wurlitzer etc, ranks of keyboards, effects voices, the
player zooming up and down out of the pit. This can be pretty wild stuff,
fake thunderstorms the whole bit. A lot is very cheesy. Also theres the
sub-genre of Cinema organs re-located to other environments, I had a record
of an organ that had been re-located to a used car showroom in East Anglia
(backwoods farm country, think UK's mid west [no offence meant of course]).
Mostly show tunes with ALL the flourishes, recorded in a concrete room so
drowned in reverb and echo. It can be a bit much. Lots of records on small
runs produced by fanatics. The UK based magazine 'The Organist covers this
and the next 2 genres)
Solo Organs: Happy Hammond and such. Just the organ itself, with its own
rhythm tracks. Again a lot of small run, independent stuff. Often plodding
versions of show tunes. I'm sure there must be some good stuff about, most
I've found plods badly, some Happy Hammond stuff is OK, I have a nice James
Bond theme, and I'm told the James Bond LP is good. I have a Korean solo
Organ LP that I know nothing about that is a blinder. But I can't read the
sleeve. I suppose this may be Lenny Dee's category, but I have yet to see
one of his records, I imagine he was never big over here.
Organ Combo's: Harry Stoneham is my man here. Some great stuff some, this
is where I find the stuff I've kept for the most part. I suppose your Samba
organists Walter Wanderley and Ed Lincoln fit nicely in here, but they
should have their own section. I heard a Denny McLaine LP over 'Coffee and
Cookies' at BasicHips a couple of years ago, that is pretty good, it has
the former baseball pitcher overdoing the organ while a band tries to keep
up. Nice heavily reverbed sound. Don't see so much of this sort of thing
about in the cheap bins. I suppose the expense of having to pay a band
stopped the self indulgent from putting out so many records.
The Organist magazine had a web site which I haven't found, but thats
because I stopped looking here:
http://www.organfax.co.uk/links.html#Magazines
and we're currently missing the Caistor Organ weekender
http://www.organfax.co.uk/sceptre-promotions.html
I actually gave up on this promiscuous collecting quite quickly as I was
accumulating just too much crap. Its a very tough job, and I'm just not the
man for it. Sorry Alan.
El Maestro Con Queso
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:25:42 +0100
From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk
Subject: (exotica) dreaming again
I've been dreaming about people on the list again, this time i dreamt
someone on the list announced Charlie (Moseley) had died. Must have been
Lou I suppose. Anyway I was so upset I went up to London, found his offices
and went in to offer my condolences. And there he was alive and well.
Although in my dream he didn't look anything like the mental picture I have
based on the postings he's made. And I noticed that in my dream.
I've been wondering about it.
A commentary on the quietness of the list at the moment?
A commentary on the unreliability of information gathered from the list.
Perhaps a guilty conscience for the latter?
El Maestro Con Queso
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:41:54 +0100
From: Charles Moseley <charlesm@contentrepublic.com>
Subject: RE: (exotica) dreaming again
I've been dreaming about people on the list again, this time i dreamt
someone on the list announced Charlie (Moseley) had died. Must have been
Lou I suppose. Anyway I was so upset I went up to London, found his offices
and went in to offer my condolences. And there he was alive and well.
Although in my dream he didn't look anything like the mental picture I have
based on the postings he's made. And I noticed that in my dream.
You dream about this list??!? Nutter.
Although, I had a dream yesterday that my girlfriend reprogrammed our alarm
clock with a variety of stupid ringtones and I woke up and started
questioning her actions, to which she replied, 'you're dreaming', which I
was. That was a list topic.
Although in my dream he didn't look anything like the mental picture I have
based on the postings he's made.
I haven't ever formed mental pictures of anyone on this list. But the
exoticaring page with everybody's photo on it has allowed me to put names to
faces - although Chuck's photo is a number of years out of date - he
probably chose it because he's flanked by birds :-)
I want to know, what do I look like?
Charles Moseley
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