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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 02:45:24 +0100
From: Edward Milhuisen <edjunkita@wanadoo.nl>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sampling / Originals
hagar@mindspring.com wrote:
> >This was more or less what Karlheinz Stockhausen ranted about.
>
> Funny that Stockhausen's name is mentioned, because for one of his pieces, he used audio tapes of children playing.
My guess is he meant the end result had to electronic music, not the elements incorporated within.
This rant was written in his younger days, he probably lightened up afterwards.
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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:24:10 -0800
From: "F. Cobalt" <fcobalt@lycos.com>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Jodorowsky
If Allen Klein dies before Jodorowsky, then supposedly the rights to Holy Mountain and El Topo will go back to him and they can get "official" release/reissue from the original negatives. At the moment, unless Criterion or some other company can convince Klein that Jodorowsky is not the devil himself, we'll have to continue waiting. Unfortunately this problem of ownership is also why getting the soundtrack to Holy Mountain has been prevented. Klein has even threatened Criterion because of the release of Fando and Lis, which he has no rights to. From what I know, the "official" release of Holy Mountain in the UK was taken from the Japanese laser, so there's fogging and such with the nudity. Luckily I was able to see Holy Mountain on the big screen a while back, an uncut print which had material in it I had never even seen in bootlegs. At the moment I don't know who has the best available bootlegs of either movie, though Shocking Video claims to have an uncut print of El Topo that isn't from laser, and I'm sure the quality is great, from my continuing experiences with them. Still, fogging or no, these are masterpieces of film that everyone should see.
As a side note, I've been hearing a lot lately, not just from Jodorowsky himself, but from gossip as well, that Marilyn Manson may be funding the sequel to El Topo. I haven't heard if he expects a role in it though.
If you want to learn more about the problems, direct from Jodorowsky, broken English and all, look at the more or less official site: http://www.hotweird.com/jodorowsky/
There's also a link to a video interview a friend and I did with him here in Chicago, which is a bit more on the nature of the creative process.
Unlucky
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> This was more or less what Karlheinz Stockhausen ranted about.
> He wrote that the use of electronic media like radio and
> tape & vinyl recordings (this was in the pre CD era) should be restricted
> to music that only could be heard in that way, i.e. electronic music.
> According to him acoustic music should only played live.
these so called avantgardists could be pretty dogmatic about their theories. Stockhausen seriously believed that his invention of the 12 tone music would guarantee Germany 100 years of leadership in music. :-D
