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exotica-digest         Monday, March 12 2001         Volume 02 : Number 916



In This Digest:

(exotica) The New Tipsy
Re: (exotica)Wine Glasses
(exotica) RE: Barbarella, Kaleidoscope
(exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour
Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records
Re: (exotica) Jonny "Delicado" Perl address
Re:  (exotica) The New Tipsy
Re:  Re: (exotica) Jonny "Delicado" Perl address
RE: (exotica) Disappearing Records
Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records
Re: (exotica) Jonny "Delicado" Perl address
Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records
(exotica) Jonny "Delicado" Perl address
RE: (exotica) List health / Disappearing Records
(exotica) war of the third man (tv)
(exotica) Is Vinyl Going Away?
(exotica) Bravo Clayton re: Disappearing Records
(exotica) Recent Finds...
Re: (exotica) Recent Finds...
(exotica) Blue Bossa
RE: (exotica) Recent Finds...
(exotica) Disappearing Records
(exotica) A Brighter View of Our Dark Age of Music
Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:00:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The New Tipsy

"Uh-0h" by Tipsy, (Asphodel 2001)
This is the best release of 2001!
Tipsy have pulled out all the sample punches on this.  I am stumped
so far but recognize a few samples.  Every song on it is chock full
of fade-in/fade-out samples dazzling the eardrums to ecstasy.
Trippy floaty music with nearly apparent melodies that you can't
quite hum.   The first song "Hard Petting" is the "big hit" with a
"bullet" if all was perfect in the music biz.  But every song on
this album is a wonderful musical ride.

Fans of the first album will be relieved to find out Tipsy have
kept their sound.  In fact, Tipsy has pulled of one of the nicer
occurrences in music, their second album is better than their
first.  In thirty years they will be playing this at Tommorowland
in Disney World.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck



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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:01:54 -0500
From: "B.R. Rolya" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica)Wine Glasses

Peter writes:

>looking for music played on (water-filled) wine glasses.
>Anyone have any urls, cd names, suggestions?

An interesting recent release is Angus Maclaurin's "Glass Music" on
Bubblecore (www.bubblecore.com).  He records to tapes and then loops them
together for a very hypnotic sound.  I saw him live at the Knitting Factory
a few months ago and it was quite mesmerizing.


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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:18:13 -0500
From: George Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Barbarella, Kaleidoscope

    I picked this up the Barbarella er... "reissue," awhile back &
returned it (mentioned here); not so much a prob with the surface noise
(clicks & pops are not so bad imho), but the whole recording had a brittle
quality that made it hard to enjoy - possibly due to some crappy noise
reduction process. I ended up finding a pricey-but-relatively-cheap (as far
as I've seen) copy last year with a little wear on the cover but the vinyl
was fine.
Found the Kaleidoscope LP last year on vaca in Asheville NC. Wasn't
familiar, but it had a swingin' 60's look & a sitar credit, which was all I
needed; I remember taking it home & hoping "please do not let the sitar /
table sections be traditional Indian music, but rather let them be the work
of Indian musicians trying to make sense of western I-IV-V type progressions
over groovy period go-go beats," & verily I was not disappointed.
  gh

        Date:    Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:37:46 EST
        From:    [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>

        Subject:    Re: (exotica) my day for ebay references

        If this is from the same source that the CD version is from
it was bootlegged
        from a copy of the record with a lot of surface noise.

        Ashley
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        Date:    Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:12:19 -0800 (PST)
        From:    Chuck <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>
        Subject:    (exotica) Re: and a couple more groovy
soundtracks

        I really have enjoyed the Alice B Toklas soundtrack!  Its
great all
        the way to the end!

        Kaleidoscope also has some wonderful cuts on it.  I highly
        recommend getting them both.  They have been put out as a
twofer on
        that German Label,  Two Little Kooks and its available from
        http://www.jackdiamond.com <http://www.jackdiamond.com>

        Easy Listening in the Big Easy
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:49:34 -0600
From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour

There's a little bit of everything in this week's Retro Cocktail Hour
webcast.  You'll find Latin-flavored Now Sounds by Nelson Riddle,
Edmundo Ros and Claus Ogerman, among others; jungle jazz from
John McFarland's rare "Provocatif" and Augie Colon's "Chant of the
Jungle"; great crime jazz from German movie thrillers; outer space
pop from Paul Tanner, Jimmie Haskell and Louis Prima(!); plus
Montefiori Cocktail's spaghetti western-ish spin on the "Star Wars"
theme; Ralph Alfonso's ode to Chet Baker's cigarette; tunes by Les
Baxter, Cal Tjader, Alvino Rey and Dick Schory; plus Leda Annest
WAILS on the classic "Portrait of Leda".

To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the web, just visit:

http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html

Requires RealPlayer and a minimum 28.8 Internet connection.

As always, comments and requests are welcome.  Thanks!


Darrell Brogdon
The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU FM 91.5
Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html
Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:57:35 -0500
From: clayton black <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records

As one of the newbies to the list, I hope I'm not a part of "the problem,"
but it seems to me that a shift has taken place that has left the list
fractured along several lines.  I have the sense that there is a cadre of
contributors who have been at this for a long time who are tired of the
"favorite covers, albums, groups, etc." and "what I just found" discussions
and who are more interested in digging out obscure groups and sounds
wherever they lurk.  Among them are those for whom the music is at the
center of their lives--more than just a hobby, it's a profession (or at
least part of one)--and the kings of space-age pop no longer hold the
(forgive me) exotic thrill that they once did.  Then there are the people
like me, who "dabble," and who want to contribute, but who feel a bit out of
their league.  A lot of lurkers have come out of the woodwork momentarily
lately, only to return to their hideaways, perhaps for the same reason that
I always lurked.  I don't know that there's a solution, but I hope that
novices are always welcome.  I don't have the resources to go after Korean
pop or Japanese soundtracks, but I do enjoy hearing about them.  I don't
ever go to nightclubs or even Tiki/Polynesian restaurants, but your
discussions allow me a bit of vicarious fun.  The recent e-bay discussion
generated a flurry of activity, perhaps because that's common ground for
just about everybody here (albeit with a variety of opinions).
    I don't quite know what my point is, only to say that I hope that the
"old-timers" can put up with the new folks and that, if there is to be any
changing of the guard, that the list continues to be a friendly and
entertaining group.  And is it really apathy that causes lulls in the list
or is it something else?  For me it's either a question of time--how much
can I put into a lengthy note like this--or of fear--do I really want to go
out on a limb on an issue, knowing that I am out of my league in knowledge
of exotica?
I quit for now.

Clayton

> From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:43:01 -0500
> To: Exotica mailing list <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records
>
> There's something strange about complaining about apathy on a generally
> apathetic list.  It is what it is.  The old days are gone and they ain't
> coming back.
> If you want to express yourself, go ahead.  If you need your
> self-expression to generate discussion, you probably shouldn't bother.
> It's funny how a mailing list can make you feel like Jesus.
> But maybe that's just my complex.
> I've got the Christ complex, you've got the Diamond complex.
>
> The exotica list is not the list you remember or the list you joined.  And
> it never will be again.
>
> The balance is delicate.



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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:11:13 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jonny "Delicado" Perl address

I am here!  Actually, I keep trying to post, but I think I was using the wrong email address, so hopefully this will work.

I have been frantically buying stuff recently, more so than ever.  Here's a summary:

- - Today the Lalo Schifrin 'marquis de sade' LP arrived...
- - Last week - 'Follow Me' soundtrack - really amazing stuff, a beautiful mix of now sound, softpop and ambient strings...
- - Last week - the Hildegard Knef box set - really enjoyable, although her output is so varied in style that I am planning to distil this down into a personal 'best of', which will include her fantastic slightly psychedelic bacharach-style stuff from the late 60s.
- - Last week - the vhs video of the movie 'smashing time', incredibly silly/slapstick, but very stylish movie starring Rita Tushingham
- - In general - I'm getting more and more into Brazilian stuff - it turns out that Marcos Valle is even more of a genius than the 'samba 68' reissue suggests, and that Jorge Ben was/is an incredible songwriter - with stuff like 'saiupa' and 'zazueira' as well as the better known 'chove chuva' and 'mas que nada'.  Elis Regina's late 60s/early 70s records/the Blue brazil vols 2 and 3 compilations...
- - making lots of CD compilations, which I would love to trade with people if they are interested.  Most recently I made a comp of vocal groups from around the world.
- - My favorite era of music seems to have shifted... When I joined this list in '96 I think the main period I was exploring was 1956-64, while now it has shifted to more like 1966-74...

If anyone is still reading, I'm also currently working on a website about musical taste, which will feature recommendations for individual songs, each tied to one person who recommended it, but also interlinking.  I will post when it is live (hopefully in the next couple of weeks).

Sorry for such a long post; it has been a long time..

cheers,

 jonny

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:33:10 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) The New Tipsy

In a message dated 3/12/1 3:01:26 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>The first song "Hard Petting" is the "big hit" with a
>"bullet" if all was perfect in the music biz.

I've been spinning the advance of that one and one version of it samples
"Sally Go Round The Roses" by The Jaynettes, a 1964 US Girl Group
rekkid...The original record has the distinction of sounding like it was
recorded in a bathroom, but is a hauntingly great song and an evergreen at
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:39:19 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Jonny "Delicado" Perl address

In a message dated 3/12/1 4:12:30 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I'm getting more and more into Brazilian stuff - it turns out that Marcos
Valle
>is even more of a genius than the 'samba 68' reissue suggests

Bossa Nova is a favorite sound of mine as well. I'm reading The Bossa Nova
Story by Ruy Castro and I was also wondering if anyone has heard the new
remixes of Roberto Menescal's music? I saw it listed at Dustygroove and
thought I'd check here first to see if anyone picked it up. I have two early
LP's by Menescal on Kapp and they are wonderful...JB


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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:40:31 +0100
From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Disappearing Records

Clayton wrote:

> As one of the newbies to the list, I hope I'm not a part of "the problem,"

> I always lurked.  I don't know that there's a solution, but I hope that
> novices are always welcome.

Of course you're welcome! To me the list is still a great source of
information and a good way to "meet" nice people (be it for trading, mailing
or whatever). I joined the list about 3 years ago and I tasted a bit of the
"old spirit" back then. Surely the list has changed, but is it really worse
than it was 2 or 3 years back? Aw, c'mon guys...

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:25:51 -0500
From: "cheryl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records

From: "clayton black" <[e-mail]>>
> As one of the newbies to the list, I hope I'm not a part of "the problem,"

I would think the last thing newbies are is a problem - it's always great to
have fresh opinions on things.  Yes, a lot of us have been on this list a
long time (I think it's around 6 years for me) and yes, we sometimes give
off the attitude of "been there, done that" - but don't be intimidated in
the least.  Opinions are always welcome around here - whatever they are -
and if they spark off a discussion, better yet.  And don't be afraid to ask
questions - that's the best way of learning - this list is made up of an
incredible cross-section of people, many of whom are extremely knowledgeable
about all things exotica and otherwise - I don't think I have ever posted a
question without getting many well-informed responses.

cheryl



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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:01:51 -0500
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jonny "Delicado" Perl address

At 04:11 PM 3/12/01 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>

>- Last week - 'Follow Me' soundtrack - really amazing stuff, a beautiful
mix of now sound, softpop and ambient strings...

What is this?  Who did the soundtrack?  When was the movie made?  Who
directed it?

>- In general - I'm getting more and more into Brazilian stuff - it turns
out that Marcos Valle is even more of a genius than the 'samba 68' reissue
suggests,

I bought this. It wasn't great.  What have you heard that's better than
this?  What does he sound like?

And what do you mean by "Brazilian stuff".  I get the feeling that
personally I prefer the fake Brazilian stuff to the real stuff.
I don't know what the real stuff is but my favorite Brazilian records are
easy listening things like:

Ciro Pereira - From Brazil with Strings
Aldemaro Romero and his Onda Nueva (sort of like the Hi-Lo's adding a
Brazilian beat to old standards)
"Soul Beat Brazil" - the new rhythms of Menescal and his group with strings.

These three are all on major American labels.  I just get this feeling that
there's a bunch of obscure stuff on Brazilian labels and if I heard it, I'd
think "Oh if that's the real stuff, I think I like the UN-real stuff better".

>- My favorite era of music seems to have shifted... When I joined this
list in '96 I think the main period I was exploring was 1956-64, while now
it has shifted to more like 1966-74...

That was an inevitable shift for me.  I went back to the 56-64 stuff and
caught up on it and by the time I "returned" to the 66-74 period, my taste
had shifted to stuff I used to sneer at.
The trouble with shifting to this period is that the records are generally
more expensive when you find them.
>
>If anyone is still reading, I'm also currently working on a website about
musical taste, which will feature recommendations for individual songs,
each tied to one person who recommended it, but also interlinking.

That sounds interesting.

AZ



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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:10:57 -0500
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records

At 03:57 AM 3/13/01 -0500, clayton black wrote:
>
>As one of the newbies to the list, I hope I'm not a part of "the problem,"

Newbies are not the problem unless you let the oldtimers intimidate you.
In which case, you're not part of the problem but you're also not part of
the solution.  The purpose of new members is to ignore the fact that some
of us have a "been there done that" attitude and to share - or ask for -
opinions without worrying about the oldtimer's apathy.
Your purpose is to drag us out of our caves and into the light.
If we ignore you, so what?  Try again.
Until you've been ignored as often as Moritz and I, you have no right to
give up.
Actually I think Moritz is ignored a little more often than I am. But
that's because some of us think that he and Magnus are two sides of the
same person.

AZ



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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 01:02:57 +0000
From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Jonny "Delicado" Perl address

> did the person who was searching for this find it?
> If not I can probably at least pass on their mail address to him.
> Has he left the list?
> Sem Sinatra, Agent Osaka

Thanks, Sem. I was the one looking for Jonny. He's apparently lurking
(ciao!) as he promptly did get back to me and now we're in touch
again.
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:07:09 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) List health / Disappearing Records

>Of course you're welcome! To me the list is still a great source of
>information and a good way to "meet" nice people (be it for trading, mailing
>or whatever). I joined the list about 3 years ago and I tasted a bit of the
>"old spirit" back then. Surely the list has changed, but is it really worse
>than it was 2 or 3 years back? Aw, c'mon guys...

Exoticalist is NOT dead (it just smells funny (sorry, couldn't resist)).
I've been here since '97... people come, people go, some come back (and
forth), sometimes it's busy, sometimes it's slow. It's different, sure,
always changing, but it's also pretty much the same.

It's true that in the mid to late 90s there was a slightly different sort
of energy. The "canon" was still being discovered. "Lounge" was "in" and
the big companies were on their brief reissue kick. Which made for a more
unified "thing" to share in. Now the media eye has moved on, and we're
returned to our roots of digging around more independently for the unknown
gems. But we get to share and build on the discoveries here. With the
occasional aesthetic theory to keep us thinking. Sort of changed from a
go-go party to an explorers' club?? It's still a real good scene.

Don't be afraid to join in, newbies or lurkers. And don't feel hurt if
you're ignored. I've been ignored plenty, but that's okay. A lot of it's
just chance. Sometimes I'd like to comment on someone else's post, and I
fail to because I simply don't have the time at the time.

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:07:21 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) war of the third man (tv)

Tuesday on AMC at 2:00pm and 10:30pm (eastern): "War Of The Worlds" -- with
those superstylin' googie spaceships (and Noel Boggs creating the ray gun
sound with his steel guitar).

Wednesday night on AMC at 10:15pm and 4:15am, it's "The Third Man". Perhaps
you've heard the theme song?

m.ace  [e-mail]
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:56:23 -0500
From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Is Vinyl Going Away?

Not that I've noticed so far. . .

At the Kiwanis rummage sale where I've been volunteering, we have no
trouble selling all the turntables I can manage to scrape together.
We usually sell 2 every Saturday (the only day we're open).

We're really limited more by our shortage of belts and non-destroyed
cartridges. Folks even shoplift the cartridges right off the machines
we have for sale. (People! It's a charity!)

Just an observation,

  --Ross

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|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA


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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:27:44 -0500
From: "christie j. white" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bravo Clayton re: Disappearing Records

I too have just rejoined the list after a couple of years hiatus.  It does
seem trivial sometimes to express about things that I find so wonderful that
those on the list may have experienced a dozen times over but then again I
hope everyone enjoys reliving the thrill of that favorite album cover or
that great find.  Kinda brings back memories for me when I hear these things
come up.  I can still remember where I found some of my prized possessions.
I know everyone can relate to that feeling.

So hopefully everyone can appreciate the old and the new on the list.  I
certainly do.

Kiliki

Clayton wrote:

As one of the newbies to the list, I hope I'm not a part of "the problem,"
but it seems to me that a shift has taken place that has left the list
fractured along several lines.  I have the sense that there is a cadre of
contributors who have been at this for a long time who are tired of the
"favorite covers, albums, groups, etc." and "what I just found" discussions
and who are more interested in digging out obscure groups and sounds
wherever they lurk.  Among them are those for whom the music is at the
center of their lives--more than just a hobby, it's a profession (or at
least part of one)--and the kings of space-age pop no longer hold the
(forgive me) exotic thrill that they once did.  Then there are the people
like me, who "dabble," and who want to contribute, but who feel a bit out of
their league.  A lot of lurkers have come out of the woodwork momentarily
lately, only to return to their hideaways, perhaps for the same reason that
I always lurked.  I don't know that there's a solution, but I hope that
novices are always welcome.  I don't have the resources to go after Korean
pop or Japanese soundtracks, but I do enjoy hearing about them.  I don't
ever go to nightclubs or even Tiki/Polynesian restaurants, but your
discussions allow me a bit of vicarious fun.  The recent e-bay discussion
generated a flurry of activity, perhaps because that's common ground for
just about everybody here (albeit with a variety of opinions).
    I don't quite know what my point is, only to say that I hope that the
"old-timers" can put up with the new folks and that, if there is to be any
changing of the guard, that the list continues to be a friendly and
entertaining group.  And is it really apathy that causes lulls in the list
or is it something else?  For me it's either a question of time--how much
can I put into a lengthy note like this--or of fear--do I really want to go
out on a limb on an issue, knowing that I am out of my league in knowledge
of exotica?
I quit for now.

Clayton




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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:24:26 +1100
From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Recent Finds...

Hi all,

here's some vinyl I've picked up in the last couple of weeks - all from $1 -
$2 Australian (halve that for US$!!). Op-shops (thrift stores) still come up
trumps here once in a while. Any comments appreciated.

"Bongo Fever" - Jack Costanzo at The Garden of Allah: Great live recording
of Mr. Bongos. A couple of tracks from this appeared on UL sets I think.

"Popcorn and other switched-on smash hits" - Electric Coconut

"Chartbusting Moog" - Denny Morris

"Dynamica" - Ray Martin

"Spy Time" - David Lloyd and his London Orchestra: Big, big sound doing Bond
tunes and others. I have a library music lp by him of "fake" Bond music
which is good and this is more of the same but doing the original tunes.

"Christmas Album" - The Ventures

"Cotton Fields" - Arthur Lyman

"Cugi's Cocktails" - Xavier Cugat and his Big, New, Swinging Band: Only had
a brief listen to this. Each track named after a different cocktail. Some
nice organ/guitar stuff mixed into the usual Cugi cha-cha's and rhumbas.

"Walt Disney's Original Soundtrack Collection vol 4.": Grabbed this because
it has "Cruella DeVille" from 101 Dalmations - a song which I remember
vividly from my childhood viewing of the movie.

"Dark Side of The Goon": Solo classics from Milligan, Sellers and Secombe.
Most from 78's and pretty much what you'd expect (and enjoy!). The Secombe
ones are all "serious".

"My Son Pua" - John and Pua Almeida: I don't usually buy Hawaiian vinyl but
the cover of this was so dark (portraits of the two on black) that
originally thought it was a religious album. Haven't listened to it yet.

"My Son, The Folksinger" - Alan Sherman

"Das Gab's Auf Einmal": Strange German double lp which seems to be a history
of the 1960's through music and SFX. Mostly narration but a weird selection
of music - The Javelins, Ruth Welcome, Hugo Strasser, Mrs. Miller, Ornette
Coleman, Maria Callas, Joe Loss, paul Jones, Helmut Zachariahs, Golden gate
Quartet etc. etc. Fabulous foldout cover of a semi naked girl with "hip"
words pdrawn on her "establishment - beat - happening - sex- pille - apollo
- - jet - pop - etc."

And on CD (also from op-shops)

"Mondo Cane OST" - Riz Ortolani

"Ghetto Gothic" - Melvin van Peebles

"Crank Calls" - Jonathon Winters: Winters messages left on his friends
answering machine.

Thanks for reading

Philip
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:48:13 -0500
From: clayton black <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Recent Finds...

> "Dynamica" - Ray Martin

I like this album, but I wonder about his other album in the Stereo Action
series (I forget the name), the one that has "Jericho"--a great swinging
tune with wonderfully irreverent "Hallelujahs" throughout.  Are any of his
albums consistently that good?

>
> "Cugi's Cocktails" - Xavier Cugat and his Big, New, Swinging Band: Only had
> a brief listen to this. Each track named after a different cocktail. Some
> nice organ/guitar stuff mixed into the usual Cugi cha-cha's and rhumbas.

Cugi gets lots of mixed reviews, but this is one of those albums I rarely
play just out of fear that I'll play it too much.  It's great.


> "My Son, The Folksinger" - Alan Sherman
>
I think I see this almost more than any album in the bins, except for the
Herb Alpert repertoire.  Which leads me to the reason for this note.  Are
there any albums that folks see time and time again that are actually very
good, and certainly worth the fifty cents or dollar (assuming of course that
we are trying to keep our "adventure" buys at a minimum)?  The recent
discussion of certain Fred Waring recordings (with appropriate caveats), or
the Living Brass record that got mentioned as a top-fifty choice are what
I'm thinking of.  This may be a futile exercise in trying to get more out of
the slim pickings that we've been lamenting of late, but just in case .  .
.

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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:55:51 -0500
From: clayton black <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Blue Bossa

Has anybody heard the "Blue Bossa" CD on the Bluenote lable?  It's a
compilation, and I only remember that it had a Lou Rawls tune on it.  I
bought it for my brother for Christmas, just sort of guessing that it was
good (I'm a sucker for anything to a bossa nova beat).  I haven't talked to
him in months, and the last time I did, I forgot to ask, and I'm also a bit
afraid that I won't get a straight answer from him (fearing that he'll hurt
my feelings.  But he doesn't know too much about the genre anyway).
Clayton


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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:34:24 -0800
From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Recent Finds...

> "Mondo Cane OST" - Riz Ortolani

That may be my all time favorite soundtrack.  I love the way it bounces
around from lush to somber to bouncy, all beautifully done.

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:15:25 -0800
From: bigshot <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Disappearing Records

Somebody asked me off list about the record swap meet in LA. In
case anyone else is interested, it's at Pasadena City College on
the first Sunday of the month. It's best to get there by 9am, so
it isn't too hot and you have time to shop. The parking is in a
structure in the back of PCC, and the records are in the North/East
corner of campus in the faculty parking lot. If you see a big guy
with a hairy chihuahua, stop me and say hello. (I'm the guy, not
the dog...)

Re: Turntables

>Other than some DJ brands or very high end there is little being produced.

See www.garage-a-records.com. They have a lot of choices in low cost
turtables. They can repair and get parts for old ones too.

>I look for vinyl solely in used record stores
>and there is no shortage of the stuff, just a shortage of quality stuff.

The reason for that is there is very little profit in dealing in
vinyl as a retail storefront. That doesn't mean the records don't
exist... It just means you are looking in the wrong place. Retail
storefront record stores aren't buying used records. They're just
selling off what they have left. That's why the selection is so
stale.

If you really want to find records, it isn't hard. Just imagine
yourself as a person with a lot of good records to unload, and
try to figure out the best way to get rid of them. Track it from
the other end. Call places and say you have records for sale
and see who bites. You can bet if they are buying, they have the
good stuff. Look in the classifieds for garage sales that list
records. Don't be afraid some dealer is going to scoop you if
you don't get there at 6am. Chances are the dealer you are
worried about is that guy at the record store who is phasing
LP records out of his inventory.

The good stuff is out there in quantities *higher* than ever
before, with prices *lower* than ever before. As serious collectors
shift from vinyl to CD, they get rid of their old collections. If
you are there ready to catch the windfall, you'll score.
You just have to work for it and not expect it to come to you.
They made records from the turn of the century to the early
1980s. That is a LONG time, and a LOT of records. There are
more records than people to collect them. It's a buyers market
if you shop smart.

A couple of months ago, I responded to an ad saying free 78s
to a good home. I went to pick them up, and was given a 3/4 ton
pickup truck full of pristine 78s from the 40s. Hit a deal like
this, and you will have more music than you can handle. Deals
like this really aren't rare, you just have to be in the right
place at the right time. That means getting out there and looking.

Old time record collectors know the drill. We went through
it when vinyl replaced shellac, and it's the same now when
plastic and mylar is replacing vinyl. The search is the fun of
collecting.

See ya
Steve

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:15:23 -0800
From: bigshot <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A Brighter View of Our Dark Age of Music

exotica-digest wrote:

>Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:34:13 +0100 (CET)
>From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records
>
>citerar bigshot <[e-mail]>:
>
>> That really doesn't bother me much, because interesting music
>> is no longer produced for the most part either. CD is fine for
>> stuff recorded digitally.
>
>I agree with you, but it does not feel very good to do so... What has
>happened with humanity? Somehow it feels that the devil in us is just
>agressive and dark, and the other side is just following its trail.

It's really not all that bad. We are just coming out of one of the
most musically revolutionary centuries since the beginning of time.
We now can record composers performing their own works and distribute
copies at a price anyone can afford. If for nothing else, the past
century will be remembered forever for the creation of Jazz. I can't
think of an artistic development that rivals that.

If you look at musical breakthroughs on a timeline, you won't
feel so bad. It's a long stretch of time between Bach and Beethoven.
Since Beethoven, things have been speeding up until the Beatles
brought in the big bang that sent everything into a tailspin. At
least we have recordings to remind us of what we were. These
recordings will end up inspiring what we will end up being. The
next century will be a time of neo-classicism. There will be
revivals of past glories, and preservation of treasures from the
past. What's old will be new again. That is my prediction!

100 years ago, only a few scholars remembered who Bach was. The
original manuscript for the Brandenburg Concertos was sold for
a quarter originally. Now people all over the world have CDs of
the Brandenburg Concertos sitting on their shelves. Even teenage
kids know who Bach is. It's not all as bad as it seems sometimes.

See ya
Steve

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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:11:15 -0500
From: "Brian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records

Moritz wrote:

>Brian... nobody is interested in this, even those who originally posted to
this.
You mean me!

> ZERO reaction on almost anything interesting. I really feel like Jack
Diamond
> now, like giving giving giving and never getting anything back. All I can
say on
> this subject is, that there are loads of interesting new productions out
there and > the fact that someone just doesn't care and doesn't listen to
the stuff, doesn't
> allow him to state, that there isn't anything at all or that music was
better then.
> Close your ears, zip your Zombie and live in a dream world in the past.
I was getting to enjoy these conversations I was having with myself.  ...say
Brian what did you think of those last vinyl finds?  Well wish I knew more
about them but I'll have to ask Brian... well.. anyway,  I'm bearing
depresssing news for record hounds... or maybe its just my new found bad-boy
image that's scaring people (its your fault Alan!)...  Either way I'm not
depressed about the vinyl situation for a number of reasons beyond the huge
variety of new material out there. And that includes:
1. The huge number of legit (or otherwise) reissues of obscure film, TV,
library, advertising or other unknown originals/comps and generally things
that I would have never hoped to find. I can't even hope to keep up to these
as they are springing up exponentially! Not all great but overall a higher
than average success rate, as you figure if someone went to the trouble to
make the reissue, and its not a major label, there must be something to
it... no?
2. The offerings on Napster of the kind of music you would never expect to
find outside the country of origin.  There are things by Japanese, Dutch,
German, Finnish or other groups listed that could never be found in any
store in my part of the world because there is simply no way for the stores
to obtain them. Its an incredible place to listen, assuming of course the
system isn't overloaded and actually allows downloads. Just this week I
discovered something called "Surfbeat Behind the Iron Curtain".  Looks like
a 2 CD or LP set of East German surf music? Where else could I spot it...
not in my local record store I can tell you!
3. People I've met through this and other lists with whom I can trade music
(and films) exactly as I described in item 2 above!

> I hope you bought the Bimbo Jet!
But I already have three of them which is more than I have of any one
record! Anyone out there interested?

> just before I left Montreal last year I found this one record shop (the
one
> upstairs that also sold sex magazines) stuffed with tons of records and
only
> because I already knew I wouldn't be able to carry home one single more
> record I didn't go into details there. They had incredible stuff though.
Have you > ever checked that shop out? Did it close down?
That store is still there. It's called M.A.R.S. and its about as hospitable!
I've been in construction sites that are cleaner... OK, I'll go back up
there one more time for your sake Moritz, but if I'm never heard from again
someone please look for me in this dungeon of a second floor space on Ste.
Catherine St. West.

Until I resurface...

Brian



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