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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 19:11:45 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <quiet@village.uunet.be>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Fred Lane
i USED to have 2 very odd LPs by Fred Lane:
Fred Lane and his Hittite Hot Shots "Car radio Jerome",
LP, Shimmy-Disc 13, USA, 1986
Fred Lane: "From The One That Cut You"
LP, Shimmy-Disc, USA, 198?
but i've sold both of them because not "EZ" enough for my current
musical taste.
J
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Date: 13 Sep 2000 11:54:21 -0700
From: mkg@calle22.com
Subject: (exotica) Exoti-Beatles
I know this records were mentioned before, but everything was so brief... So I saw these Exotica Beatles compilations in a record store and they look fine. Volumes 2 and 3. Is any of those better than the other?
What kind of strangeness should I expect?
Cheers,
Manuel
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:36:03 -0400
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <crajnai@att.com>
Subject: (exotica) I'm back, got Hula?
Hey gang, I'm back.
I have to say that Honolulu/Waikiki is pretty much what I expected. It =
is a
pretty populated place in Waikiki, with too many ABC Stores and =
McDonalds
and Hotel towers and buses and limo-taxis. =20
No, regretfully I didn't get to see Mr. Lyman. I arrived on Oahu a =
little
too late and left too early, but I did have a very nice lunch at the =
New
Otani with a good Mai Tai. I also missed Don Tiki and the Kodak Hula =
show
for the same reason. =20
There is plenty, nay loads of tiki tourist culture to be found these =
days in
Waikiki and on Maui. The plastic Coco Joe's pieces are everywhere, as =
well
as other less expensive plastic and wooden ones. Mugs, keychains, =
plastic
picture frames, wall hangings, and the like. At the tourist places =
like the
Polynesian Cultral Center and at some of the Luaus you can get very =
nice
hand carved wooden tikis, if you want to carry them back in your =
suitcase. A
real tikifreak could load half a suitcase on $100 of these things, from
which I refrained somewhat. =20
Lots of the places a tourist would visit have assortments of tikis =
standing
8 feet tall all over the place. I don't know if this in response to =
the
recent craze, or if they had them since they opened their respective
establishments, but it was cool either way. Being fake is part of the =
whole
thing anyway, isn't it?=20
The house band at my hotel in Waikiki was taking requests. They played
Little Grass Shack and the Hawaiian War chant, and had a guest hula =
dancer
do the Hukilau and other tunes, but they didn't know Quiet Village. =
The
older of the 3 band members was impressed and raiesd his eybrows and =
said,
"Oh yea, with the bird calls, right?", but he and his younger =
colleagues
didn't know how to play it. We still had fun watching the hula wahine =
and
drinking mai tais. =20
Without writing a travel journal, we had a great time in Hawai'i. Maui =
is a
beautiful place, even with all the new construction. I recomend the =
road to
Hana be driven by everybody who gets the chance, don't take a tour, it =
needs
to be "discovered". And DO NOT go to the Paradise Cove Luau in Oahu, =
it's a
tourist trap. =20
visit=20
THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:04:12 +0100
From: Michael Jemmeson <michael@moreover.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) vinyl scores in Canada
Hemmel@gmx.net wrote:
>
> james brouwer wrote:
>
> >At the record show he scored, amongst other great albums
> >(helps to get in with the other dealers), some crank-hippy lp called
> "Rock
> >is a 4 letter word". Looked nuts. Anyone out there have this? Worth
> having?
>
> This could be the "Rock is a Four Letter Word" that are on the boot comp
> "2069 A Spaced Oddity" with the track "Trouble". It is a great stormy groovy
> soulish number with organ, brasses, fuzzy guitar, a singer, female backing
> chorus and some feedback. I also would like to knew more about the whole
> album.
Woh, coincidence - I was just about to ask about this... I did a few
searches the other day and turned up nothing. Thought maybe it was from
a musical? It sounds a bit like it, both music and title-wise.
I posted about the 2069 Space Oddity comp back when it came out. Has
some great tracks, including the Andrew Loog Oldham 'The last time'
(heavily lifted by The Verve), Werner Muller 'The bodybuilder', Howard
Blake 'An elephant called slowly'... as for availability, is lp-only,
illegal, and has relatively poor sound quality on some tracks (just a
warning to any hi-fi buffs)
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:15:51 +0200
From: Moritz R <webmaster@derplan.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exoti-Beatles
mkg@calle22.com wrote:
> I know this records were mentioned before, but everything was so brief... So I saw these Exotica Beatles compilations in a record store and they look fine. Volumes 2 and 3. Is any of those better than the other?
>
> What kind of strangeness should I expect?
They are all good. Strangeness and non-strangeness. Britishness, groovyness, original sounddocuments of interviews of the Fab 4. All kinds of things...
Mo
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:15:35 +0200
From: Moritz R <webmaster@derplan.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exoti-Beatles
dymaxia@ripco.com wrote:
> Experience has taught me that the
> later CDs in a series involve barrel scraping.
Not at all, they are even getting better, perhaps due to the fact that Mike
Alway gets sent lots of tapes since he started the whole thing. By the way: the
soccer series Bens It is also pretty cool.
Mo
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:47:41 +0200
From: Piero Cavina <p.cavina@mo.nettuno.it>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Umiliani - new LP ?
At 09.11 14/09/00 +0100, you wrote:
>A couple of weeks ago, someone said they were going to rush out and buy the
>Piero Umiliani LP MusicaElletronica (sp). Did they post back about it? How
>is it?
The CD was in the shops here a month ago, but I'm waiting for the vinyl
version - those gate/fold double vinyls from Easy Tempo are so cool :-)
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:02:29 +0200 (MEST)
From: Hemmel@gmx.net
Subject: (exotica) Pierre Henry Live
A friend just told me, that he read somewere (couldnt remember where) about
an incredibly Live performance in Paris. Are there some French list members
who’ve been there and could tell more ?
Thanks
Martin
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:27:39 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <bcleve@pop.tiac.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel on Vinyl
At 2:32 PM -0700 9/13/00, Stephen W. Worth wrote:
>I've noticed that the Louvin Brothers never sound the same on CD
>either. Why is that? Is it because of the sound of the music, the
>digital medium, or bad engineering?
Probably a combination of all three. Because of the way recordings used to
be made, there was a lot more air in the sound (bigger rooms, more large
diaphram microphones, reverb created in acoustic chambers), and that's
something that seems to come out more in the electro-magnetic medium. If
you A-B an Esquivel LP with it's CD equivalent, you'll notice immediately
that the CD doesn't sound as big. But I think it's also true that there's
not much care put into the digital transfers on a lot of this stuff. The
original tapes are baked so that they don't fall apart when played (even
though the tapes from the 50's and early 60's are far superior than their
counterparts from the late 60's and '70's - it's kind of like the films and
TV shows from that era that have washed out color), and there's additional
compression put on in the remastering that can flatten out the sound.
CD's are convenient (of course so is McDonalds, but....) and are fine for
current recordings that are, for the most part, digitally recorded (at some
point in the chain, be it mixed down to DAT or recorded on ADAT or mastered
in ProTools), but for the analog era, it's best to stick to the analog
artifacts for the real deal.
br cleve
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:45:46 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <quiet@village.uunet.be>
Subject: (exotica) searching the Exotica Mailing List Archive
searching the Exotica Mailing List Archive isn't possible, and it
won't be easy to make it happen i think. i tried to set up a free
It's an 80s obsessed rawcker ranting against Mtv because they stopped playing Poison, Whitesnake, Twisted Sister, etc.
Until now I though no-one liked that kind of music, except for hairdressers the world over (and even they, I thought, must like them just for hair-style related reasons).
Cheers,
Manuel
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 19:43:11 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: (exotica) Sorry, no great records
There's a (mostly) used CD and record store just a few doors away from me.
And I almost never go there. For a number of reasons. I don't like the
owner. I don't like the stuff he has. And I don't like the way it's laid out.
The guy's British. Except for the fact that he lifts weights, he reminds
me of Al Stewart. (But then all British "fops" do.)
He's the kind of record store owner who never clues into the fact that one
of his customers might actually know something about the music they're
buying.
The merchandise is fairly eclectic actually but he himself is mostly
interested in the new CD's at the front of the store. Pentangle, Van der
Graaf Generator, Steve Hillage, Manzanera... you get the idea.
He almost never has any vinyl I want but the other day there was a sign
announcing "Vinyl Sale, $1 each".
And to my delight, it was mostly of the easy listening/lounge variety.
I had a nice little pile including Claus Ogerman's "Saxes Mexicanos" (a
second copy for me) and 101 Strings "Sounds of Today" (with titles like
"Karma Sitar" and "Strings for Ravi" and also includes "Blues for the
Guru") when a young lad strolled in and loudly asked "Do you have any
garage or punk records in the vinyl sale?"
Kind of a dumb question.
So the owner cut to the heart of the matter and replied "Look. There's
nothing great here".
Just as I came to a copy of Les Baxter's "Tamboo".
Admittedly it isn't Steve Hillage but still...
PS - I just CDR-ized and put into the "outbox" six or seven "minor" Les
Baxter records so getting a real one was kinda cool.
P.P.S. the store is called "Abba Zappa". I wonder how many stores there
are in the world with that same name.
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 19:42:58 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: (exotica) Paul Griffin
Was Paul Griffin also "The Mustang"?
It seems self-evident but I don't want to jump to conclusions (not that
there are many people interested in the "controversy")
I was making CDR's and I noticed that my two Paul Griffin LP's and my
Mustang LP were all on Somerset. And the organ sounds the same.
On the other hand, he plays quite differently on his 101 Strings LP ("Swing
with Hammond Organ") so maybe the playing style isn't reliable.
So, anyway...?
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 19:21:06 -0500
From: "Indy Rutks" <rutks002@tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sorry, no great records
Has it been mentioned yet on the list that the October issue of CMJ New
Music Monthly has an article (& pictures) of Alan & his film "Vinyl"? Or
have I just been caught napping again?
- -Indy Rutks
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:51:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jane Fondle <jane_fondle_69@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Anti rawck conspiracy?
> Until now I though no-one liked that kind of music,
> except for hairdressers the world over (and even
> they, I thought, must like them just for hair-style
> related reasons).
>
> Cheers,
> Manuel
>
Apparently, you've neither been to Brandon, Fl or
Revere, MA.
Jane Fondle, been there...eeeewwwww
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