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exotica-digest          Monday, June 19 2000          Volume 02 : Number 742



In This Digest:

RE: (exotica) Old Navy....tiki
Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk
(exotica) Beneath The Planet Of The Apes
Re: (exotica) Mohawks / Champ
Re: (exotica) where is the Piero umiliani review?
Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk
Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk/Welcome Back Mo!
Re: (exotica) Beneath The Planet Of The Apes
(exotica) From The Ether.....
Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk
Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk/Welcome Back Mo!
Re: (exotica) Beneath The Planet Of The Apes
Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk
(exotica) Kraftwerk/Swivel SG-20
(exotica) Kraftwerk Influences
(exotica) Not so exotic artist page...
(exotica) RE: Sparky's magic piano
(exotica) Re: Allegro Corporation CDs
(exotica) Re: Kraftwerk
Re: (exotica) Re: Allegro Corporation CDs
Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk/Welcome Back Mo!
Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk Influences
(exotica) Flash4-based crime jazz
(exotica) Mister Coconut
(exotica) Mister Coconut
(exotica) media alert: secret museum in NY Times
Re:  (exotica) Mister Coconut
(exotica) Tiki Tones
(exotica) New Mai Tai reviews
Re: (exotica) Tiki Tones
(exotica) times article URL
(exotica) times article URL
Re: (exotica) Re: Allegro Corporation CDs
Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk
(exotica) Dion McGregor
Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk
(exotica) The Friendly Persuasion Show  - Week of 06/19/00
Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk

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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:02:51 -0700
From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Old Navy....tiki

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Nathan Miner
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 5:53 AM

> Okay, I confess, I made a special trip last night to the local
> Old Navy store (if it's any consolation, I'd never been to that
> store before in my life) in a quest for tiki-wear.

> The music makes you want to kill - bad, throbbing dance that
> sends the ralph-inducing shoppers into ridiculous dance steps on
> their way to the dressing
> rooms.........................this..................is............
> America...........................

Actually, the first time I heard Arling and Cameron (and Dimitri From Paris,
for that matter) was in an Old Navy store. Not sure if that's a good thing
or a bad thing, though.

Later,
Ben

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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:10:09 PDT
From: "jonathan richardson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk

all this talk about Kraftwerk is getting me HOTT!!

Ive dug out all my Kraftwerk vinyl and am in the middle of a Kraftwerk
marathon! first was Radioactivity then Exceller 8 (an early best of..), then
Ralf and Florian (the one with the neon signs placed in front of them while
jamming), then Computer World, now its Trans-Europe-Express. Then on to the
Autobahn to infinity, then???????

whomever started this thread, I thank you, its like a fresh breath of air in
my dark and lonely world.

I am the robot......

- -jonny


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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:27:48 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Beneath The Planet Of The Apes

this one sucks. no melody, no rhythm, nothing, just orchestrated
background "sound"; abstract, cerebral, intellectualistic anti-music,
without any beauty in it. available for $20 (!) from:
_http://filmscoremonthly.com/cds/beneath.asp_


         Johan

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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:04:56 +0100
From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mohawks / Champ

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I think Br Cleve said he wanted a copy of this.  Theres a 12 of it out at
> the moment.  Not cheap.  The other side is by someone else,  the track is
> 'Hihatchi' I think.  Let me know if you want me to get hold of it.
> Sorry to post to the list,  can't find your e-mail address.
>

b-side is Lafayette Afro Rock band - hihache
Think Intoxica still has some

it's also on a Pama records comp just out (? - think so) called 'Black
is Soul'...


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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:18:54 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) where is the Piero umiliani review?

At 4:42 PM +0100 6/15/00, Reader Geoff wrote:
>Bit disappointed not to get a review of the Maestro's appearance at the
>Italian festival.  Anyone who attended care to do the honours?

The article reviewing the entire festival has been submitted to
Luxuriamusic.com and should be up soon, I would imagine.

But to summarize, Umiliani performed a great many of his best known (to
reissue buyers) compositions, accompanied by a drummer, trombonist and
female vocalist. He himsef played digital piano, electric organ and
keyboard bass. His set lasted a bit over an hour, During the course of the
performance, he would step up to the microphone and tell stories about the
songs and anecdotes about them and their recording, including a number of
tales about Chet Baker and Gato Barbieri, both of whom worked under the
maestro for some time in the 1960's. Clips of some of the films that he
scored appeared on screens on each side of the stage. Umilani suffered a
debilitating stroke in the 1980's, and while he's recovered nicely, his
speech and movements are somewhat slurred. My favorite piece of the evening
was the vocal version of "You Should Have Warned Me', from 'Sweden-Heaven &
Hell'. I spent a nice evening with him a few nights later, where he regaled
me with more tales and showed me a lot of his original charts. He owns
copies of all of his albums, but his wife has them somewhere for safe
keeping. He's in fantastic spirits and of course is extrememly happy to be
discovered by a new generation and have many of his old works issued or
reissued (me, I'm waiting for "Intrique a Los Angeles" and "Smog", both of
which are of the crime jazz nature I'm told)

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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:34:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk

Yep. Drove in listening to the CD Trans-Europe Express
this morning (happy the hippie photo and digital remix
vinyl lps, too). Used to have it on one of those
horrible commercial cassettes which I'd play over and
over on the long mountainous trip down to school...
yeeeeeears ago.

Had a friend in the early 80s who was a painter who
claimed that he put this lp on to get ideas flowing.


- --- jonathan richardson <[e-mail]>
wrote:
>
> all this talk about Kraftwerk is getting me HOTT!!
>


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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:29:57 -0400
From: Bump <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk/Welcome Back Mo!

>
>Mo
>(yes, I was lurking a bit)

Come On,
You LOVE Us!
No staying away!
and see, WE NEED YOU!
thanx for the lowdown on the Robot Boys!

still savoring seeing them in 1981!

bump out

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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:50:12 -0500
From: Matt Marchese <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Beneath The Planet Of The Apes

Johan Dada Vis wrote:

> this one sucks. no melody, no rhythm, nothing, just orchestrated
> background "sound"; abstract, cerebral, intellectualistic anti-music,
> without any beauty in it. available for $20 (!) from:
> _http://filmscoremonthly.com/cds/beneath.asp_

I don't remember the Leonard Rosenman score for "Beneath..." that well, so I
can't comment, but the Jerry Goldsmith score for the original "Planet of the
Apes" film is absolutely brilliant and fits the description you gave to a 'T';
amelodic, arhythmic, abstract, cerebral...it did a well-nigh perfect job of
creating a weird, otherworldly mood for the film and is a major reason why it's
considered classic cinema. I liked the sequel quite a bit as well, so really I
can't agree with your "sucks" characterization. I particularly liked the hymn
to the bomb where the mutants shed their faces...cheesy, but fun.


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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:44:11 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) From The Ether.....

Of marginal interest, even to me, will be an article in this Sunday's NY Times
(Farts & Lesion Section) concerning the growth & origin of the traditional
music radio program "The Secret Museum Of The Air", by John Kalish of NPR.. I
understand Meyer Berger was unavailbale to write the piece however.

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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:53:41 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk

>uhmmm... I have (apparently a bootleg on the Germanofon label) a cd that
>contains 4 1970s tracks... flute & organs there, too, and electronic beats
>that could easily fit in any Orb or Orbital disc... the tracks are:
>Ruckzuck, Stratovarius, Megaherz and Von Himmel Hoch. A couple of them last
>10 minutes.
>Weird but cool. Anyone can tell me if it is a reprint of official early
>stuff or a boot?

Those tracks are the first album. No idea of the provenance of your CD.

Regarding the "Ralf & Florian" album cover... I spent much youthful time
studying the equipment in that back cover photo. Love that giant speaker
horn. Exotica connection... note the pinapple lampshade. And the track
"Ananas Symphonie"

>Also, anyone has heard of the mess caused by an italian Kraftwerk book+cd
>(a bootleg made by the folks of Stampa Alternativa/Sonic Books)? Hehehe...

No. What's the word??


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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:21:31 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk/Welcome Back Mo!

In a message dated 6/16/00 2:36:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< >Mo
 >(yes, I was lurking a bit)

 Come On,
 You LOVE Us!
 No staying away!
 and see, WE NEED YOU! >>

Anybody heard from Old Magnus?????  I miss his rollercoaster moods!!!!

tb


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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:15:36 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Beneath The Planet Of The Apes

Johan,
Gotta disagree with you on this one.  It's not Jerry Goldsmith but it is very
cool in it's own way.  I do agree that the original LP (which were rescored
rerecordings of themes from the film) is better than much of the original
soundtrack music, but it is included on the cd.  If you like the LP you'll
like the cd.  If you hate the LP you already know you hate it.
Just my humble opinion ---- from someone who is glad he bought this cd.

Larry


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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:58:05 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk

>horn. Exotica connection... note the pinapple lampshade.

Er, I meant "pineapple" of course.

Pinapples are what nasty ghouls give kids on Halloween.


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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 18:17:12 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Kraftwerk/Swivel SG-20

And as long as we're Kraftwerk-ing, here's a nifty new item for you to make
your own Man-Machines with:

http://www.swivelsystems.com/products/sg20.html

A General MIDI synthesizer module for Palm PDA's. Includes sequencer and
notation programs. Just the thing for boring situations.

Disclaimer: I have no idea if the thing's any good or not. It just looked
amusing.


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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:24:46 -0700
From: "paul thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Kraftwerk Influences

James Brouwer wrote:
... Kraftwerk
had a strikingly austere and minimal style or look -- they dressed like
German businessmen from the 1920's for christsakes...

 Twenties Modernism/Minimalism was obviously a very big influence on Kraftwerk and their three best-known albums (Trans Europe Express, Man Machine and Computer World). The cover of Man Machine is a homage to El Lissitsky ~~ a kind of geometrical, Modern style in the Constructivist vein. The photos of them as robots on the inner sleeve of Computerworld is very reminsicent of a 20's photograph by Cartier-Breson of showroom dummies in a Parisian shop window, and the 'I am a robot' idea which appears in Computer World and Man Machine can be traced to a Russian play, "Rossums Universal Robots'. The photos of them on Trans Europe Express in their Twenties style suits look very much like the Hollywood glamour photos by Hurrell.

 An aside: thanks for the tips on Don Shirley. I think I'll pass him up for now.

  ~~Paul~~


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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 03:04:54 +0200
From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Not so exotic artist page...

...sorry for the not so in-topic message...
I've just revamped (thanks to my friend nezmar for HTML and design!) my
little page about the late dj Hithouse aka Peter Slaghuis.
Since in here I see lots of people into electronic music and sampling I
thought that maybe someone would have been interested... also, this is part
of a bigger project called "Unsung Heroes", devoted to make music sites for
lesser known artists (both living or dead).
Check:
http://www.olografix.org/djbatman/hithouse/

p.s. if anyone is in the KLF list, a repost in there would be appreciated
(I'm not subscribed anymore to that list).



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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 18:31:16 -0700
From: "Dick, Alice" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Sparky's magic piano

>  "Sparky's Magic Piano" LP
> Price:    Starts at $9.95

<<I think that Collector's Choice recently had the CD for about the same
price.>>

 I suddenly remembered reading in the "Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Original Radio Scripts" book, with commentary from Douglas Adams, that at
one point Adams refers to a sound effect as sounding "Kind of like Sparky's
magic piano... if anybody remembers that." At the time I didn't know what he
was talking about. Neat!

Also, relating to the "Exotic Trilogy" CDs mentioned about a week ago - I
found vol. 2 at cheapthrills.ca and have ordered it., but no one seems to
have Volume 1. If anybody knows where I can get this I'd be eternally
grateful.

Alice


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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:55:39 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Allegro Corporation CDs

Byron, can you post the url of the Allegro and Bainbridge sites?

    thank you!=7F

    Johan

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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:24:57 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Kraftwerk

    These latin arrangements of 10 Kraftwerk tunes are great fun
and very well done; and, although a MIDI project, the sound is good,
thanx to some cleverly mixed-in P=E9rez Prado samples. Not sure if you
could enjoy this album when unfamiliar with Kraftwerk's music

         Johan

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At 14:55 -0600 2000/06/15, exotica-digest wrote:
>Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:27:52 EDT
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk
>
>Interesting enough, Emperor Norton is about to release an album of Kraftwer=
k
>songs done Latin-style by a guy who calls himself Senor Coconut. (Can't fin=
d
>a tilde for the "n" on "Senor.")
>
>- --Rod
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Date: 17 Jun 2000 10:35:47 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Allegro Corporation CDs

At 01:55 PM 17-06-00 +0200, Johan wrote:
>Byron, can you post the url of the Allegro and Bainbridge sites?

this one has the two cd cocktail sets and the free coaster sets.
by the way, the sales people at allegro told me that they actually
have the coaster sets...they are not on backorder.  It was a computer
glitch, so they should be able to send them right away.  I have yet to
receive mine.
HTTP://www.allegro-music.com

this is where the Bainbridge CD came from I mentioned (which had TIME
recordings on it).  It is actually allego-music (billed and shipped from
the same place), but it has different CDs and cut-rate prices:
http://www.cybermusicsurplus.com/


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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:02:52 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk/Welcome Back Mo!

Bump wrote:

> Come On,
> You LOVE Us!

For chrissake, yes. Sometimes love hurts, you know...

Mo




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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:07:29 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk Influences

paul thomas wrote:

>  The photos of them on Trans Europe Express in their Twenties style suits look very much like the Hollywood glamour photos by Hurrell.

Here is the story that Florian told me: They knew this photographer in Dusseldorf, an old man who had a small corner-shop somewhere, nobody famous, but he knew how to take portraits the old-fashioned way, including positive retouch. Very reasonable too. That clean surface was what they wanted. I don't know where they got the idea to take up constructivist art from the 20s. After all the 20s/early 30s were the last age when German culture was still "innocent" in its own right. After that came the Nazi years and after that came the time of American colonization. So if you looked back into the past trying to find some original German culture to relate to you had to go back to the 20s somehow. And Kraftwerk definitely didn't
want to be part of rock culture. On one hand because it was something from "outside" that you could only relate to by imitating it - there were extremely forbidding examples for that in the German rock scene. Plus they hated the music. They thought that rock music is for "Prolls" (from Prolet = jerk, jock, primitive low-class person). And since they were hanging out with photo models and jet set people like the Krupps they didn't relate much to hippie culture anymore, so I guess they thought it's really funny, to have short hair and clean cuts. A business man was the anti-thesis to the hippie. It was their way to express a humorous punk attitude.

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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 10:43:35 -0700
From: "Erik Hoel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Flash4-based crime jazz

For some huge crime jazz, check out the Joe Paradise series from the folks
at Wildbrain:

http://www.wildbrain.com/drivein/joeparadise/episode01.html

I love the intro.

The SID - Space Is Dumb series is also kickin with Super Suzy Rocker Chick.

Erik
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Date: 17 Jun 2000 11:27:10 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Mister Coconut

Hi,

Has anyone actually heard this Mister Coconut or The Samplers? Is one better than the other? Are they the same kind of music?

Just today I was browsing in a local record shop and wanted to listen to these two Cds but the people in the store said it wasn't possible, so... I'm still curious.

They are all put out by this label called Rather Interesting taht have a lot of very enigmatic records with titles but no liste artists. What I had heard about this label was the complete opposite of what someone said here before. I heard that it was run by a guy from Chile who lives in Germany.

Anyway, the covers are really groovy (especially in the Mister Coconut and Los samplers records).

Cheers,
Manuel




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Date: 17 Jun 2000 11:27:16 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Mister Coconut

Hi,

Has anyone actually heard this Mister Coconut or The Samplers? Is one better than the other? Are they the same kind of music?

Just today I was browsing in a local record shop and wanted to listen to these two Cds but the people in the store said it wasn't possible, so... I'm still curious.

They are all put out by this label called Rather Interesting taht have a lot of very enigmatic records with titles but no liste artists. What I had heard about this label was the complete opposite of what someone said here before. I heard that it was run by a guy from Chile who lives in Germany.

Anyway, the covers are really groovy (especially in the Mister Coconut and Los samplers records).

Cheers,
Manuel




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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:09:33 -0400
From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) media alert: secret museum in NY Times

Hi, all,

A very good article about our radio show "The Secret Museum of the Air,"
written by Jon Kalish, appears in tomorrow's (Sunday June 18) NY Times,
on page 33 of the Arts and Leisure section. It includes a very nice
photo of Pat Conte and Citizen Kafka; the NY Times editor apparently
doesn't like my professional name very much, since the caption and most
of the article refers to me as Richard Shulberg. Well at least my mom is
happy about that! It should appear on the NY Times website tomorrow, and
i will post it on our site next week. The article omits our website,
which is:

http://www.citizenkafka.com/sma/main.html

Enjoy!

Citizen Kafka
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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:43:33 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Mister Coconut

In a message dated 6/17/0 2:27:49 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Has anyone actually heard this Mister Coconut or The Samplers?

I took a chance on Los Samplers and was extremely pleased. Latin riddims
played with sampled bits of electronic sounds, static, short wave signals,
record crackles, the kitchen sink...in a very melodically accessible
framework.. Use some today! JB/welcome back Moritz


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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:52:15 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Tiki Tones

Just got back from an Amoeba Recrods in-store with the Tiki Tones.  Too fab.
I hear that Shag will be leaving the group soon, but I got to see America's
Premier Illustrator live in action on his blue sparkletone Jazzmaster.  Miss
Kitty 21 did the go-go dancing with high energy and pizzazz.  Cool tunes and
covers including "Il Vespa", "Juicy", "One Mint Julep", "The In Crowd"
(Ramsey style) and Devo's "Girl You Want."  Damn, I want their Tiki-Nehru
jackets....

- --David


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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:37:26 -0700
From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Mai Tai reviews

We've finally added a bunch of reviews and other information to the
Search for the Ultimate Mai Tai website, including reviews from Asia, DC
and Hawaii, and the Tonga Room in SF.

http://www.kevdo.com/maitai/

Thanks to those of you who contributed... we're always looking for great contributions.

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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 21:50:26 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Tones

In a message dated 6/17/00 6:53:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< I hear that Shag will be leaving the group soon,  >>

i thought he had already left the group.  what was there last cd where we
know he played on?

tb


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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 11:55:50 -0400
From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) times article URL

http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/artleisure/conte-music.html

is the address for the article in today's arts and leisure section of
the sunday ny times about the secret museum of the air radio show,
complete with photo of Pat Conte, the curator, and Citizen Kafka
(Richard Shulberg). Our website, which they forgot to mention(!) is:

http://www.citizenkafka.com/

take care, all!

ck
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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 11:55:50 -0400
From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) times article URL

http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/artleisure/conte-music.html

is the address for the article in today's arts and leisure section of
the sunday ny times about the secret museum of the air radio show,
complete with photo of Pat Conte, the curator, and Citizen Kafka
(Richard Shulberg). Our website, which they forgot to mention(!) is:

http://www.citizenkafka.com/

take care, all!

ck
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Date: 18 Jun 2000 13:51:22 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Allegro Corporation CDs

I listened to one of the double CDs from Allegro today.
Pleased and dismayed...

Pleased to hear selections from the Prado/Rosemary Clooney album and
various other RCA albums featuring Rosemary Clooney.  I am not sure they
are otherwise available on CD.

Dismayed to see a double CD set when ALL of the cuts could have easilly
been included on one CD.

Byron

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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:15:01 -0400
From: "Peter Risser" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk

> I just don't understand why the rock press  ignored so much of the music
we love!
> I mean I would shop in record stores in the late 60s and there would be
this huge
> store full of lps and 45s and the easy section was 3 times as big as the
rock
> section!
> Really tons of easy, moog exotica records for sale.  Yet none of the rock
magazines
> like rolling stone even had a clue this music was as experimental as
psychedlica.
> And I'm tired of reading that Neil Young is the "Grandfather of Grunge"
and
> Kraftwerk the grandfathers or electronica.  I see them more as "rock
pioneers"
> For me, Kraftwerk had their own musical sound but this was not new music.
> Somehow when you do things in the rock world its treated as sacred.  I
remember the
> press drooling over how ingenious the Beatles were "using strings"  in
Elenor
> Rigby.   What bs.  Strings were used in rock way before that and in the
easy world
> way way long ago.   I just find most of the rock press musically myopic.


Here's the weird thing.  I call it the Rolling Stone syndrome (magazine, not
band).  Basically, you look back and the history of music through the 60s
and 70s is painted as Beatles, Stones, Santana, Doors, Led Zeppelin,
etc.etc.  But really, look at the pop charts and see that the popular stuff
was really shit like Pat Boone and whatnot.  I mean, Jose Feliciano scored a
grammy for Light My Fire, NOT the Doors!

I wasn't around then, so I don't know from first hand experience, but that's
how it seems to me.

Anyway.
Peter



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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:18:18 -0400
From: "Peter Risser" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dion McGregor

So...
Nobody on this list has the original Dion McGregor album on Decca?
I find that Extremely Hard to Believe.

Peter



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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:25:59 -0400
From: "Peter Risser" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk

Anyone heard Trans Am?  I always thought they sounded a bit like Kraftwerk.
But then, I don't know a lot of Kraftwerk, so...

Peter (The Operator of My Pocket Calculator) Risser



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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 23:08:57 -0700
From: "Mr. Fodder" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Friendly Persuasion Show  - Week of 06/19/00

The Friendly Persuasion Show  - Week of 06/19/00

Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet
Radio.
http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm

Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week to
hear:

1.  The Touch-Tone Terrorists - Jim Bob's Introduction / Birthday Present
2.  Arling and Cameron - Hashi
3.  Daniel Johnston - Walking The Cow
4.  The Food - And Your Hard Birds Night Thing
5.  The Touch-Tone Terrorists - Hubcap Beating
6.  Jack Wagner - Fuck
7.  Mel Blanc - Little Red Monkey
8.  Head and Leg - Psychotic Travel
9.  Vijaya Anand - Thana Nana
10.  The Touch-Tone Terrorists - Angry Janitor II
11.  Arling and Cameron - Le Flic et la Fille
12.  Dion McGregor - Little Willie Song
13.  New Tweedy Bros.! - Danny's Song
14.  Serge Gainsbourg and Brigitte Bardot - Ford Mustang
15.  Head and Leg - Teeth
16.  Negativland - Marge
17.  Scarlet's Well - Miss Twinkle's Been on Holiday Again


Thanks for listening!
     Chow,
          Otis

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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 08:14:58 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kraftwerk

In a message dated 6/18/00 10:17:41 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Here's the weird thing.  I call it the Rolling Stone syndrome (magazine,
not

band).  Basically, you look back and the history of music through the 60s

and 70s is painted as Beatles, Stones, Santana, Doors, Led Zeppelin,

etc.etc.

Yes, true, but don't forget that RS mag came out as the print arm of the
developing West Coast Yout' culture and as such represented youthful bands,
trends, and their accompanying drugs and politics. I remember it as an 8 page
little treasure at Blake's Pharmacy in late 6T's Lexington, MA, where I grew
up. You had to unfold it as the cover was printed on half the back of the
paper (hard to explain, YOU know what I mean) and at the time it was an
alternative publication that clued you in as to what was happening in San
Francisco. Garage rock and the British Invasion had come to the end of its
road and the new feedback-drenched sound of acid rock was beginning to take
form and even though today it seems over-exploited, over-written about and
steeped in obnoxious nostalgia, it truly was an exciting moment in the
history of youth culture and RS mag played a significant part in its birth.
The ugly thing about it was that as Rolling Stone became more financially
successful, boomers too were doing the same thing. Then they began to buy all
that hype about what a cool generation they were and to this day are filled
with that despicable sel-righteousness that turns off so many younger folks
and even many fellow boomers


 <<But really, look at the pop charts and see that the popular stuff

was really shit like Pat Boone and whatnot.>>

Pat Boone's career was asleep during the late 6T's Rolling Stone birth. He
really hadn't scored with anything since 1962's Speedy Gonzalez.  Rolling
Stone unwittingly was also giving birth to cultural market segmentation and
as the Youth Movement of the late 6T's was largely a white middle and upper
middle class movement in the U.S. Pat Boone's name surfaced again as the
boomers became the "me generation" and began going into therapy to relive the
trauma of growing up white and middle class in 50's and 6T's America.
Evidently Boone was fond of using the ol' backhand as a means of disciplining
his children and they reported him as "Bad Dad".

<<I mean, Jose Feliciano scored a

grammy for Light My Fire, NOT the Doors! >>

Sure, but that was on MOR (middle of the road) radio, the kind our PARENTS
listened to and we all knew that you never trusted anyone over 30. Jose was
really an over 30 type artist and held no cache within the youth culture. I
mean who was sexier? Jim Morrison or Jose? He even sang the Star Spangled
Banner at the All Star Game when any kind of love of country was completely
out of favor with the spoiled brats of the Baby Boom Generation. Today its
obvious who had the talent and part of the reason I prefer Jose to Jim is
because of the marketing of the alternativeness of Jim and his compatriots as
Boomer Deities (blecccccch)...JB/Boomer who plans to write the song "Die
Boomer, Die" before he gets old!



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