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Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 22:03:46 -0400
From: "m.ace" <ecam@voicenet.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Comps, Ultra Lounge, ennui
I love a good comp, but the Ultra Lounge juggernaut, nay. The subtext vibe
I get from of it is "packaging rules, artists are fodder." Yes, this is
pretty much the natural condition in the music biz, but Ultra Lounge rubs
my nose in it in an especially annoying way. It's more about promoting the
"Ultra Lounge" branding than the music itself. But that's just me.
Even though I was warned, I bought the Julie London disc from their recent
"Artist Collection" series. It was such a great batch of tunes. But the
packaging is just... demeaning (again, this is only my subjective
reaction). And of course, there's a listing of the whole "Artist Collection
releases" along with the blurb, "Collect Them All!" Yes, just buy
everything with the mighty Ultra Lounge brand on it!
And they never did ANY Les Baxter album reissues. Just an endless death
march of cutsie comps. Foo.
Sorry, don't mind me, I'm just a crank. It's strange... I've slowly
realized that flea & thrift vinyl has ruined me for CDs. I just don't enjoy
buying CDs anymore. It actually makes me nauseous. And it's not just the
money either (though that helps). I've gotten so used to digging through
randomized boxes and placing myself at the whims of the vinyl gods, that
when I go into a 'new CD' store I don't know what to do. The concept of
looking for something specific has become a bit alien. And then... whenever
I look for a specific CD they never have it. So I wind up getting something
that's good and safe, but doesn't thrill me with surprise, the way a vinyl
find can. And I wind up thinking of the 15 or so LPs I could have gotten
for the same money. Okay it IS the money, too.
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 22:53:22 EDT
From: BasicHip@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) Comps, Ultra Lounge, ennui
<< I've slowly
realized that flea & thrift vinyl has ruined me for CDs. I just don't enjoy
buying CDs anymore. It actually makes me nauseous. And it's not just the
money either (though that helps). I've gotten so used to digging through
randomized boxes and placing myself at the whims of the vinyl gods, that
when I go into a 'new CD' store I don't know what to do. >>
Going to Tower or wherever to buy a CD is like picking up a carton of milk.
The entire experience of looking for, finding, touching, smelling and
listening to records is just so much more enjoyable.
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Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 23:05:55 -0400
From: cheryl <cheryls@dsuper.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Comps, Ultra Lounge, ennui
On the subject of UL, it was their Leopard Skin Sampler that was one of
my first exotica purchases. That and Bar None's Esquivel compilations.
Opened the proverbial floodgates...So you have to give them credit to
introducing many of us to the genre, and paving the way for many of the
other series that surfaced.
I've since bought a few more UL compilations - "TV Town" and "The Crime
Scene" - both okay, but I don't plan on buying any more. However, you
have to give credit to anyone who reissues Mrs. Miller - who else would
do that? And how well do you think that one is selling? Aside from
anything else they've done, I'm pretty pleased that they did release
that one.
As for newbies here - the collected knowledge on this list continues to
amaze and delight me. And everyone has something they can contribute -
just being on this list shows you have an interest in the music.
(embarrassing confession - shortly after I joined the list, there was a
discussion going on regarding which version of "Mas Que Nada" was being
used in a commercial - and I didn't even know what "Mas Que Nada"
sounded like! Hard to believe that was only a few short years ago...)
Enough ranting for now. Time to listen to my new Emperor Norton
sampler...
cheryl
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:16:26 EDT
From: SLarry3595@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) Comps, Ultra Lounge, ennui
ecam@voicenet.com writes:
(I've edited this down a bit)
<< The subtext vibe I get from of it is "packaging rules, artists are
fodder." Yes, this is pretty much the natural condition in the music biz,
but Ultra Lounge rubs
my nose in it in an especially annoying way. It's more about promoting the
"Ultra Lounge" branding than the music itself. But that's just me.
It was such a great batch of tunes. But the
packaging is just... demeaning (again, this is only my subjective
reaction). >>
This sums up what I meant to say so much more eloquently than I said it.
This is all I was trying to say. I'm sorry if I upset anyone's apple cart.
Especially those who discovered this music via these comps. GREAT. I am
glad these cd's are introducing this music to some people who have not been
exposed to it before. And by all means new comers to this genre are very
welcome here. Question us about any artist. We all love to give opinions on
music!
Larry
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Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 20:33:16 -0700
From: "paul thomas" <hepcatpaul@mailcity.com>
Subject: (exotica) UL and Hawaiian Shirts
<<Am I the only one to admit that I like some of the UL and other comp's out
there?>>
Not at all, I love comps as some other list members have said ~~ a sign posts to finding the path to unknown, cool music.
That being said, there are some lame ULs ~~ Cha Cha Cha D'Amor is mostly bad. It seems like the best cuts were what couldn't be fit into Bossa Nova-Ville and the rest filler. A Bachelor in Paris is just plain awful. I don't know what they were thinking but it doesn't work. There are some great ULs ~~ Crime Scene is brilliant and so is Space-Capades, Bachelor Pad Royale and Rhapsodesia come right to mind.
In the liner notes, I've noticed that the cover designs are credited to Tom/Todd Eames ... any relation to Charles and Ray Eames?
Hawaiian shirts ... I work in a vintage clothing/antique store and in the spring thru summer we sell tons of vintage Hawaiian shirts. The shirts from the 20s and 30s are a fortune, assuming you can find them. The shirts from the late 40s thru mid 50s are easier to came by and more affordable. Two brands to look for are Ui Makai and Duke of Hollywood. You can always tell the pre-60s vintage hawaiian shirts by the patch pocket ... a pre-60s shirts will have a patch pocket that matches the design of the shirt perfectly. The shirts from the 60s onward have patch pockets that are randomly cut fabric ~~ they don't fit in with the design.
~~ Paul ~~
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:29:09 +1000
From: Philip Jackson <pdj@mpx.com.au>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Comps, Ultra Lounge, ennui
on 10/5/00 12:03 PM, m.ace at ecam@voicenet.com wrote:
> I've gotten so used to digging through
> randomized boxes and placing myself at the whims of the vinyl gods, that
> when I go into a 'new CD' store I don't know what to do.
> And I wind up thinking of the 15 or so LPs I could have gotten
> for the same money. Okay it IS the money, too.
Absolutely. And if it wasn't for the proliferation of pawn shops because of
the crazy spread of gambling downunder I probably wouldn't be buying cd's at
all.
Philip
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 08:28:38 -0400
From: "Nathan Miner" <nminer@jhmi.edu>
Subject: Re: (exotica) whoops i must be... Tipsy...
Yeah, Herschell was at a film convention years ago in New Jersey - one of =
the very first "Chiller Cons" which are still going on.=20
Anyway, I asked him if he'd like to have dinner with the group of people I =
attended with and he graciously accepted much to my surprise. He's a VERY =
intelligent guy with a great sense of humor and the right approach to his =
"art" (that is: I made rotten films, had a great time doing it, and made =
lots of money too - I can't complain!).
He's rich, lives in Florida, has fancy sports cars, and now deals in =
direct mail-marketing (if you do a search on his name at Amazon you'll =
turn up a couple of books he's written about how to market/sell stuff).
Anyway, he was amazed at all the arcane information I tossed his way all =
during dinner. A great guy. Not much more to tell - he didn't eat his =
meat rare or anything like that - wore a suit and tie.........as Curley =
says "He's a regular goiy!"
My all-time fave film is Wizard of Gore - and Blood Feast is right up =
there - hell, he wrote/played the timpani drum intro for "Blood".
There was a soundtrack album available from Rhino - he also wrote/sang the =
2000 Maniacs song.
- - Nate
- - Nate
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 09:17:24 -0500
From: "Colleen Pyles" <colleen7@ireland.com>
Subject: (exotica) Comps/Pottery Barn
Has anyone heard the compilations from Pottery Barn. Some are really good. Their Martini Lounge was really good (now out of print) and it led me to discover Combustible Edison. Their RSVP and ON THE ROCKS
cd's are currently for sale and have some really good things on them.
Incidentally, the MIDNIGHT IN THE GARDEN OF GOOD AND EVIL soundtrack is good...and that's how I discovered Diana Krall. So although you can have some crummy tracks on compilations, sometimes it can lead you to the "harder stuff".
Colleen in Texas
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 07:14:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <chuckmk@yahoo.com>
Subject: (exotica) Care and Maintenance of Thrifted LP Covers
Once you bring those beautiful thrifted lps home you first have to wash you hands
and get the dark mildew off.
While bagging some of my favorite covers I have encountered the following problems:
1. Stickers put on by the thrift store that are diffucult to get off. In horror
last night a vg+++ Prerez Prado cover (soft unglossy paper) had a sticker right
over his mouth. Trying to get it off ripped the cover.
Is there something that takes off stickers easy??
2. Is there something that removes pen marks/magic marker marks that the thrifts
put on near mint covers to say that cost 65 cents??
3. What is best for bringing the gloss back to lp covers?? Many of them down here
in swampy New Orleans have a thin veneer of mildew that is hardly noticeable.
There also appears to be some sort of film on the covers that is not mildew. I
have been fearful of using anything on these covers.
4. A small scratch on the cover. Has any one colored these in? What did you use?
Any other advice on other problems I will encounter is welcome.
