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exotica-digest          Monday, March 6 2000          Volume 02 : Number 641



In This Digest:

(exotica) Great News!!!!!
(exotica) Minneapolis Exotica
(exotica) Breakbeats for kids?
Re: (exotica) The Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" and Exotica connectio
(exotica) How do I make CDs from LPs?
(exotica) ORGAN-IZED!
Re: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher homepage
(exotica) Re: CDs from LPs? good and bad burns?
(exotica) re:school band records
RE: (exotica) How do I make CDs from LPs?
Re: (exotica) The Beach Boys / Exotica Issues
Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues
Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues
Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues
Re: (exotica) The Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" and Exotica connectio
Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues
(exotica) LP Question...
Re: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher homepage
RE: (exotica) Great News!!!!!
(exotica) Friends of Late Singer Searching for His 57 Children
Re: RE: (exotica) Great News!!!!!
Re: (exotica) school band records

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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 20:35:09 +1100
From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Great News!!!!!

Hi kids!

Welcome, Brad M.!  I'm sure you'll dig the wide-ranging topics here; I know
I have.

GREAT NEWS to tell you all.  I'm beginning work, with Scott Smith, Ferrante
& Teicher's manager, on the first and only Official F&T Website!!!  I'm so
excited I could poop diamonds.  (Ick, what a foul image--sorry)

I'd like to ask any of you who dig the Grand Twins of the Twin Grands what
you'd love to see on the site...love to have all your input.  I've come up
with a groovy look for the site.  It will include a complete discography (a
first on the web), album cover gallery, photos of the guys, etc.  Do you
think we should have a fan page?  or chat room?  Come on and throw me some
input!

Cheers,

Keith

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site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 01:18:22 -0800
From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Minneapolis Exotica

"THE SON OF VOODOO!"

MINNESOTA CONTEMPORARY ENSEMBLE
with
THE VIENNA SAX QUARTET
VANESSA TOMLINSON
VIC VOLARE
JANET GOTTSCHALL-FRIED
and
KING KINI

Fine Line Music Cafe, Minneapolis * [phone]
SATURDAY, APRIL 29th * 8PM
Tickets $13 advance - $15 day of show (all Ticketmaster outlets)

With the success of last year's standing-room-only show at the Fine
Line Cafe, Minnesota Contemporary Ensemble (MCE), will again present
an eclectic evening of music including noire, lounge, contemporary,
and experimental. We will perform works by L A  bassist Joey Altruda,
a leader in the "new cool school" movement in Los Angeles, who's
music is featured in the movie "Swingers".

We will also give the world premiere of a new work by Robert Drasnin,
the former head of CBS television's music division for 20 years and
last year's featured artist by MCE.  Other highlights of the evening
include Leonard Bernstein's classic and rarely performed "Prelude,
Fugue, and Riffs", The soundtrack to Orson Well's "Touch of Evil",
XTC's "Man who Sailed Around His Soul" featuring Vic Volare, and two
works by Yma Sumac with Janet Gottschall -Fried, performer with the
Minnesota Opera and the Theatre de la Jeune Lune.

This year's show features an outstanding line-up of soloists
including internationally regarded percussionist Vanessa Tomlinson, a
frequent performer with Germany's "Ensemble Modern", giving the world
premiere of Erik Griswold's Every Night the Same Dream. We will also
have as guest artists the Vienna Sax Quartet performing their
arrangement of Steve Reich's New York Counterpoint which was
re-written in collaboration with the composer.  The MCE band will
also include Doug Little from the Motion Poets on solo tenor sax and
flute.

In between sets,  audience members will be treated to Minneapolis'
own "lounge/exotica" expert, King Kini, spinning vinyl from his truly
unique and unmatched collection of vintage recordings.
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 11:34:36 -0500
From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Breakbeats for kids?

[e-mail] wrote:
> >I'm starting to explore some of the new electronica artists who sample
> >and use exotica records as sources and inspiration (Fantastic Plastic
> >Machine, Cornelius, Pizzicato Five, etc.).  Any recommendations herewould
> >be helpful.  As would any exotica stuff that makes good music for
babies....
> Others on this list should be able to supply you with
> other titles to seek, Brian and Cheryl in Canada, and Brother Cleve
I think we're in the same place a Jimmy, exploring this terrain, and far
from experts in this area.  Still, after a lot of searching we've managed to
turn up a few things. What I'm finding at least is the range is quite wide
and on a lot of these releases, the level of exotica-funk sampling varies
and some of it sounds like it crosses over into the hip-hop/house direction.
I'm no expert in classifications of dance music so... Still there are a few
notable ones that I could recommend without hesitation, in addition to those
recommended by Jimmy:

Tipsy, Sukia and Stock, Hausen & Walkman (especially "Organ Transplants").
These three groups have been around some time and are all pioneers in
exotica sampling.

DJ Me DJ You - Simplerockmachine (Emperor Norton, US)  Actually Sukia in
another disguise and one of the best things on this label.  He has a new one
out which I've yet to hear but expect to be good.

Dimitri From Paris (France) and Ursula 1000 (US) are both brilliant.  Each
has one CD and neither will disappoint.

The "Jet Society" compilation (Eighteenth Street Lounge, US) - has two
particularly strong tracks, one by the Norwegian group, The Bobby Hughes
Experience and one by the German group Mo' Horizons that were what first got
me interested in exploring this style. The rest is more bossa inspired but
highly recommended.

The Bobby Hughes Experience - Fusa Riot (Ultimate Dilemma, UK) This is the
most recent release by the band and lives up to all expectations.

Mo'Horizons - Come Touch the Sun (Stereo Deluxe, Germany) .
Jazz-African-Bossa inspired.  Quieter than some but it definitely grows on
you.

We've just received a bunch of new disks which I can't say we've heard
through enough to make any solid recommendation.  However, Los Chicarrons -
CongaHeaven, Bongo Hell (Tummy Touch, UK) seems to be a top contender and is
made with the right sense of humour to keep me listening. Also, Jacknife
Lee's - Muy Rico (Pussyfoot, UK) is quite good, though the rest of the disk
doesn't quite live up to his brilliant rendition of "The Cat" called "Here
Kitty Kitty" also featured on Kinky Beats. The compilation "Suck It and See"
samples porn films and is also recommended (not quite the thing for kids
though).  You will hear much of this if you tune into Space Bop today
(Sunday) from 4:00 - 5:00 pm (eastern standard time) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

The FSUK compilations (Future Sounds of the UK) of what I've heard are good
though they go all over the place.  We were fortunate to find three of the
four 2CD sets here in town and will feature excerpts from them on Space Bop
next week, so tune in if you want to hear more.  Still waiting on a few more
things by Resident Filters and Mint Royale which I expect to be good. As a
first purchase, certainly try Kinky Beats. Br. Cleve steered us to this one
and it is a great introduction!

As to music for babies, ours was particularly fond of Esquivel but who can
say.  Certainly there is Raymond Scott's - Music for Babies set which I'm
sure you would like too. Otherwise, just having interesting music around is
a good thing for kids (unless it happens to be Spice Girls, Britney Spears,
or any other of the kiddie cult drivel out there) Our rule here is Disney is
fine so long as it was made while Walt was alive. After that it's gotta
prove itself to us!
Oh yes, and we've managed to maintain our status as a Barney-free household,
against all odds...

Happy parenting (and listening)!





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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 00 09:59:15 -0800
From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" and Exotica connectio

>Well you can imagine my pleasant surprise that while exploring the 4 CD "Pet
>Sounds" box set earlier this evening I discovered in the sessions personel
>listing that it was in fact Martin Denny's vibe player Julius Wechter who in
>fact plays the vibes on "Let's Go Away For A While." Not only that, but
>Wechter also provides percussion touches on other "Pet Sounds" album
>tracks:
>"You Still Believe In Me" (the finger cymbals) and "I Know There's An
>Answer"
>(tambourine).
>
>What a fascinating family tree this makes!

I just played the instrumental tracks from the mono version of that CD
that came out in 1990 (I don't own the boxed set).  While "Let's Go Away
for a While" is a very nice instrumental track, I personally prefer the
instrumental "Pet Sounds" track more.

Quite coincidentally, the subject of Julius W. playing vibes on this
album came up within the past week on another music discussion forum,
though no other comments on it have been posted.

My opinion:  I think we have to draw the line on the family tree,
somewhere.  If you include this album as "Exotica" because of the
presence of Julius Wechter, then by association you also have to include
Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass as well--because many of those same personnel
played on Wechter's own Baja Marimba Band albums (of which Wechter was
the leader).  I don't know how others feel about this, but to me the TJB
and the BMB don't fit in as part of "Exotica"!

Regards,
- --bj
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 14:01:08 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) How do I make CDs from LPs?

Apologies if this has been covered here before, but I'm brand-new to this CD
burning thing.

I know this can be done, because some of you have talked about it, so how
does one go about burning a CD from a good old slab of vinyl?

Any help is appreciated.

- --Rod
www.hitchmagazine.com


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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 14:07:20 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) ORGAN-IZED!

A quick recommendation for a recent CD that's flown completely under the
radar: the compilation "ORGAN-IZED!: An All-Star Tribute to the Hammond B3
Organ." It's on a division of Windham Hill, but don't let that scare you.

For an "all-star" lineup, I didn't recognize many of the names, because I
think most of them come from the jazz world. But John Medeski, DJ Logic,
Galactic, Jimmy Smith and Jack McDuff are among the 13 artists.

I think anyone who digs the Hammond sound won't be disappointed -- there's a
little lounge, a little jazz and a little funk among the tracks. No gospel,
thankfully.

For those looking for a budget-priced Hammond disc, I also recommend "Hammond
Organ Favourites," which can be found for around $7 (if memory serves
correct) from Collector's Choice (www.ccmusic.com). Mostly covers of classics
of the lounge canon, including several by Bacharach.

- --Rod
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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 20:11:18 +0100
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher homepage

Keith E. Lo Bue wrote:

> I'd like to ask any of you who dig the Grand Twins of the Twin Grands what
> you'd love to see on the site...love to have all your input.

I'd like to see the index page as the inside of an elevator and hear soft
background music right away, by... guess who! In the mirror of the elevator
you would see a 70 inch tall ear with arms and legs, white gloves, a white
scarf, elegant stick and a tuxedo on top. The buttons of the elevator for the
diverse floors would be the links to the chapters of the homepage, which would
be designed as different 50s/60s styled appartments with stylish furniture and
vintage stereo equipments with small record collections, that could be played
by the visitor of the homepage. On the beds and sofas of the appartments
beautiful female ears with blond wigs and golden high heels would be stretched
out lasciviously. One room however would show a terrified ear-sex-bomb and in
that room you could click on the wardrobe, the doors would open and you would
find Ferrante & Teicher hiding naked inside.

Sorry, you asked for it!

Mo





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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 20:24:33 GMT
From: "james brouwer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: CDs from LPs? good and bad burns?

[e-mail] wrote:

>I know this can be done, because some of you have talked about it, so how
>does one go about burning a CD from a good old slab of vinyl?

My understanding is that you have to a) connect your stereo to your
computer, and b) download the appropriate software. But someone else on this
list, I'm sure, can do a much better job than myself in explaining the
details of this. I don't have a burner.

I do, though, have a further question: why do some of my CD burns get
"rejected" by my CD player? I put them in, and can here the Cd player trying
to do its thing but it just doesn't catch. I've got two burns that are
unplayable (they aren't scratched either), and one that is a bit dicey at
times. NONE of my regular CD's do this. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
Anyone know if it can be fixed?
Any help here is appreciated.
Thanks
JBrouwer
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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 13:26:43 -0700
From: kendoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re:school band records

I'm another collector of school band records (and all amateur music). I look
for usual repertoire -- pop tunes rather than religious or patriotic songs. I
have handbell choirs & ukulele bands in addition to the more usual vocal,
concert and marching bands. In this country, many schools made records to
celebrate Canada's centennial year (1967). These records are a staple of
Canadian thrift stores.

A related genre i also collect (am i the only one?) is "Studio 86" tapes. This
was a place where you would go to record your own vocals over prerecorded
backing tracks onto a cassette. In Canada, the first location was at Expo 86
in Vancouver. It expanded to West Edmonton Mall (now defunct). I have 16 of
these tapes that I've found in thrift stores (one of them was made at a place
called Centre Stage Recording Studios with locations in New Zealand and the
US). Almost without exception, they were recorded by groups of young girls who
display more enthusiasm than talent. A Goodwill cashier once tried to talk me
out of buying one, telling me it would probably be awful. On the contrary, I
replied, it's probably wonderful & much more entertaining than the original.
And indeed it was -- they're ALL delightful (in their way). Titles include
"The Rose", "That's What Friends Are For" (two versions), "The Locomotion"
(two versions); "The Wind Beneath My Wings" and so on. The only one I have
that was recorded by a man is "Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be
Cowboys."

Mike Ewanus
All Sales Are Vinyl
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 13:10:48 -0800
From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) How do I make CDs from LPs?

>how does one go about burning a CD from a good old slab of vinyl?

Here are some useful sites:

http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~abcomp/lp-cdr.htm
http://resource.simplenet.com/primer/primer.htm

Jerry


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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 16:47:42 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Beach Boys / Exotica Issues

>My opinion:  I think we have to draw the line on the family tree,
>somewhere.  If you include this album as "Exotica" because of the
>presence of Julius Wechter, then by association you also have to include
>Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass as well--because many of those same personnel
>played on Wechter's own Baja Marimba Band albums (of which Wechter was
>the leader).  I don't know how others feel about this, but to me the TJB
>and the BMB don't fit in as part of "Exotica"!

Has the ol' epistemology question popped up yet again? I guess it's been a
while. My own observations of the list gestalt run like this...

I would agree, the TJB and the BMB are not strict definition exotica.
Strict exotica examples include Baxter (not his entire ouvre), Denny,
Lyman, Sumac.

However, despite what the name of the list might imply, this list is not
solely about strict exotica. From space age pop to now sound to obscure
crackpots, we cover the waterfront. One way to describe what we cover might
be "the stuff that everyone else ignores." Though it's really more complex
than that. For example, Frank Sinatra certainly is not an ignored artist,
but it is not out of line to speak of him here. And the TJB and BMB are
certainly list-appropriate.

Does this mean the name of the list is a misnomer? In a way, yeah. But it's
the name we were "born with." It works fine. And it provides an emotional
center of sorts, for all of our diverse explorations to orbit around.

Finally, I think this passage from the list 'welcome' message bears
repeating (again):

::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>The Exotica mailing list is a forum for people interested in unusual
>music, primarily that from the 1950s and 1960s.  There is no hard and fast
>definition of "Exotica" as the distinction is primarily in the eye (and
>ear!) of the collector.  Just keep in mind that the primary focus of this
>mailing list is the *unusual*.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::


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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 17:27:44 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues

At 04:47 PM 3/5/00 -0500, m.ace wrote:
>
>I would agree, the TJB and the BMB are not strict definition exotica.
>Strict exotica examples include Baxter (not his entire ouvre), Denny,
>Lyman, Sumac.

I disagree.  What is the strict definition of exotica?  I've always taken
it to mean an attempt to mix exotic musical influences in with "jazz-based"
musics such as swing or cocktail jazz.  So when you try to decide if
something is exotica you have to decide whether there is an exotic
influence AND whether the music at its base is jazz-ish.
In other words, if you used bird calls and Hawaiian tunes but mixed them in
with rhythm n blues, would it still be exotica?
I don't know.  But that's the only question that stops me from giving TJB
and BMB the stamp of exotica.  The music might be a bit too "rockin" at its
base to qualify.
But otherwise I think the vague Mexican or Mariachi influence qualifies it
as exotica every bit as much as it would if the influences were more Hawaiian.
Any record I have that combines swing or big band jazz with Chinese or
Japanese or Arabic sounds, I put in with the exotica records.
Like "Brass and Bamboo" by Tak Shindo or "Land of the Rising Sun" by Jack
deMello.
It doesn't have to come from the exact geographic origin - assuming you can
pin that down - as Les Baxter or Martin Denny's exotica to qualify, does it?

And having said all that, I might have reservations about the TJB but I
think the Baja Marimba Band absolutely qualifies as exotica.  I think I
could take a number of their cuts, put them on a mixed exotica tape and the
vibe would be uninterrupted.
Doesn't the very sound of the marimba, let alone all that overt
percussiveness qualify it as exotica?

And one more thing.  I know why people lump the TJB and the BMB together
but I think it's unfair and unflattering to the Baja boys.

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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 00 14:59:36 -0800
From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues

>>I would agree, the TJB and the BMB are not strict definition exotica.
>>Strict exotica examples include Baxter (not his entire ouvre), Denny,
>>Lyman, Sumac.
>
>I disagree.  What is the strict definition of exotica?  I've always taken
>it to mean an attempt to mix exotic musical influences in with "jazz-based"
>musics such as swing or cocktail jazz.  So when you try to decide if
>something is exotica you have to decide whether there is an exotic
>influence AND whether the music at its base is jazz-ish.

Maybe the crux of the matter is defining what you call "exotic musical
influences".  That phrase is kind of vague to me and could mean any
number of things, not necessarily having to do with the music that's
talked about and covered on this list.  Does it mean musical influences
coming from remote and far-away parts (and peoples) of the world, or from
little-known and little-used minority instrumentation?  Or both?  Or
neither?

Further, you qualify exotica as being jazz-ish at its base.  From what
I've seen talked about and mentioned on this list, Hawaiian music and
Tiki music are definitely exotica, but I don't consider either one a form
of music based on what is standardly known and thought of as "jazz".  So
how do they fit in with the rest?  Is it because they are tropical-island
based?  If so, I think a broader definition of "Exotica" is in order.

As for Exotica being "what everyone else ignores", I think that should be
amended to say "what everyone else *now* ignores".  A good deal of what
is considered to be Exotica *used* to be plain ol' popular music that was
once loved by the masses, played on radio stations infinitum, and whose
popularity has come and gone and is now relegated to "oldie" status by
the public, occasionally to get resurrected in a film (the way Burt
Bacharach did in "Austin Powers").

>And having said all that, I might have reservations about the TJB but I
>think the Baja Marimba Band absolutely qualifies as exotica.  I think I
>could take a number of their cuts, put them on a mixed exotica tape and the
>vibe would be uninterrupted.
>Doesn't the very sound of the marimba, let alone all that overt
>percussiveness qualify it as exotica?

In my opinion (again), I don't see any instrument being singled out to
qualify for the label of "Exotica", because it totally depends on how the
instrument is used within the piece of music.  Any number of instruments
can be used "percussively".

A circus caliope is not standardly used in jazz(!) or in mainstream
recordings, but unless/until a more encompassing definition of "Exotica"
is arrived at, I'd have no idea what "category" to put it in or if it
even would qualify as "Exotica".

>And one more thing.  I know why people lump the TJB and the BMB together
>but I think it's unfair and unflattering to the Baja boys.

I'm not sure why you believe it's unflattering, given that the two groups
share much the same personnel, record label, album producers, arrangers,
etc. etc.  I happen to like the sound of the BMB over the TJB, too (for
purely instrumentation reasons)--but credit has to be given where credit
is due, and the BMB recordings simply would not have existed without the
support of the members of the TJB and what formerly was Herb Alpert's
record company.

Regards,
- --bj
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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 19:15:04 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues

Sorry, I forgot to make my conclusion in the earlier message...

Better to simply relax and enjoy it than to drive yourself crazy splitting
hairs over definitions, boundaries and classifications.

Of course, if you enjoy that hair splitting process, that's a different
kettle of catfish. Go ahead and have a ball...

>>I disagree. What is the strict definition of exotica?

My old definition of "strict" exotica is:
Mood music incorporating elements evoking non-European/North American
regions: the Pacific islands, Asia, India, Africa, South America, the
tropics in general.

But that's just my definition. Everyone else will have their own.

And reading it again, I suppose that could include TJB [anti-lumping
barrier] or BMB. Though a lot of either band's material is a bit too bouncy
for mood music.

I guess next it'll be, "what's the definition of mood music?"

>As for Exotica being "what everyone else ignores", I think that should be
>amended to say "what everyone else *now* ignores"

"What everyone else ignores" already *is* present tense. (just teasing ;o)


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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 21:17:47 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" and Exotica connectio

In a message dated 3/5/00 1:00:58 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< My opinion:  I think we have to draw the line on the family tree,
 somewhere.  If you include this album as "Exotica" because of the
 presence of Julius Wechter, then by association you also have to include
 Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass as well--because many of those same personnel
 played on Wechter's own Baja Marimba Band albums (of which Wechter was
 the leader).  I don't know how others feel about this, but to me the TJB
 and the BMB don't fit in as part of "Exotica"! >>


Whooooaaaa boy! All I'm saying is that the particular track "Let's Go Away
For A While" has defintely been influenced by exotica and utilizes one of
exotica's master musicians to create it's sound. My comment on the family
tree was just a throwaway aside and it was in no way intended to have people
completely wasting there time over argumentsover whether to consider "Pet
Sounds" an exotica album....I know I've got better things to do than that,



like laundry.

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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 09:19:38 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues

At 02:59 PM 3/5/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote:
>
>
>Maybe the crux of the matter is defining what you call "exotic musical
>influences".  That phrase is kind of vague to me and could mean any
>number of things

Exactly.  It's vague.  The very concept of the "exotic" is vague.  It's an
image, a feeling.  It's about an idea more than it's about strict musical
influences.  So how can you say that the sounds influencing TJB and BMB
were NOT exotic?  If these bands do not qualify as "strictly" exotica, they
were certainly extensions of the concept that originally created exotica.
It was about bringing the "feeling" of exotic foreign destinations to a
mostly white suburban middle class audience.  It was about reminding them
of that Hawaiian band that met them at the airport OR that Mariachi band
that serenaded them on the beach.
It was about sitting in the rec room, putting on a Hawaiian shirt, sipping
a rum and coke and imagining copper skinned native girls serenading you.
It's true that Mexico is not quite as "exotic" as the mysterious far East
but when I see the Baja Marimba band dressed up as Mexican banditos, I
can't help thinking that we're basically in the same territory as Yma
Sumac, the Incan princess or whatever she was supposed to be.

>
>Further, you qualify exotica as being jazz-ish at its base.  From what
>I've seen talked about and mentioned on this list, Hawaiian music and
>Tiki music are definitely exotica, but I don't consider either one a form
>of music based on what is standardly known and thought of as "jazz".

What would you call the sound of Martin Denny or Arthur Lyman if not at
least "jazz based"?  They're basically cocktail jazz piano quartets with
something extra.  They're not a whole hell of a lot different than those
earlier "latinesque" George Shearing records which I'd call jazz.  It's not
bebop certainly.  It's more what I'd call "polite" jazz.  But it still
ain't rock n roll.

If you want to put TJB and BMB at the fringe of exotica, it doesn't bother
me.  All I was saying was that I could make an exotica tape and include
some BMB without most people - even on this list - going "hey what's that
doing there?"

It's not like I actually care if something does or doesn't qualify as
exotica.  If you want to split hairs, you could probably say "Martin Denny
is exotica but not when he covers McArthur Park" and in the right mood, I
might agree with you.  But I'd still try and throw it on the exotica tape
playing in my head.

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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 09:34:07 -0500
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) LP Question...

Came across an interesting LP that was marked too high for purchase.....it =
was a gatefold, double-LP set put out by the manufacturers of Seeburg =
jukeboxes as a demo of all the "Easy Listening" type music available to =
stock in said jukeboxes.

Now these are "corporate jukes" used to pipe music into offices, etc.  The =
cover says something like Easy Listening in cursive script, and there's a =
cover of the Seeburg machine.  Inside is a total zen-like experience as =
the entire gatefold is nothing but pure white space....not a dot of text =
anywhere......I even did a double-take an looked inside the gatefold a =
second time to be sure!!!=20

The back of the album is exactly the same as the front - looks like the =
wax is an entire, continuous track on all four sides......

Anybody have this?  What's it like?

- - Nate




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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 09:34:39 -0500
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher homepage

Oh man - was that great!!!!

Great imagination!!!

I'll second that design.......

- - Nate




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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:51:47 -0500
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Great News!!!!!

what
you'd love to see on the site

I would love to see a picture of the inside of a prepared piano!!

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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 09:54:39 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Friends of Late Singer Searching for His 57 Children

Friday March 3 6:01 PM ET

Friends of Late Singer Searching for His 57 Children

By Dan Whitcomb

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Rhythm and blues wild man ''Screamin''
Jay Hawkins was pretty sure that he fathered roughly 57 children
during his life.  He just couldn't keep track of them all.

Now friends and family members of the eccentric singer, who died in
Paris last month at age 70, have begun a worldwide search for his sons
and daughters, who may or may not know that Hawkins, best known for
his 1956 hit single ``I Put A Spell on You,'' is their father.

But those long-lost children of Hawkins, who performed his
voodoo-inspired blues after emerging from a coffin, shouldn't expect
any money from their late father's estate.

``It's not like there's some huge pot at the end of the rainbow,''
said Hawkins' friend and lawyer Gary Spritz.  ''They're entitled to
nothing, to be honest with you.'' Spritz added that he had obtained
strands of Hawkins' hair, and could use them to scrutinize the DNA of
anyone claiming to be the late singer's son or daughter.

Spritz said the search, being conducted largely on the Internet, was
more for the purposes of ``closure,'' even though he hoped to track
down any of the children before Hawkins' will is submitted for probate
in May.

``Are YOU one of Jay's kids?'' asks a Web site dedicated to the search
that features a photo of the smiling Hawkins, who was married six
times and apparently sired a prodigious number of children out of
wedlock.

The Web site (www.jayskids.com) notes that Hawkins ''reportedly
fathered up to 57 children'' and asks visitors to contact his estate
``If you believe you may have had a child by Screamin' Jay Hawkins or
if you believe you are a child of Screamin' Jay Hawkins.'' Maral
Nigolian, a longtime friend of Hawkins, said the performer, known for
his outlandish live performances featuring a flaming skull named
``Henry,'' told her before his death that he wanted to reach out to
his kids -- all of them.

``The last time I visited him in Paris he told me that he had 57
children that he knew of,'' Nigolian said.  ``He personally didn't
think there was anything wrong with that, but he hoped that he would
have more time to find them and hoped that it would be done.  He said:
'You do it, Maral.''' Nigolian, an independent film producer currently
making a documentary about Hawkins, concedes that contacting all of
his kids could be nearly impossible, and adds that some of those who
knew he was their father were not speaking to him.

``He also performed all over the world, he was married to a Japanese
woman one time, he was married to a Hawaiian woman one time and
he had a number of relationships,'' she said.

Nigolian said the search was not intended to find heirs who might have
a claim to his estate, but to bring all of the children together at
least once in honor of their late dad.

``If it's possible, we'd like to bring all his children under one
tent, take his ashes and have a ceremony in his honor,'' Spritz said.

``We think we'll find at least 37 of them,'' Spritz added.  ''We'll
weed out the ones we're definitely not going to find, and with enough
word of mouth we think we can find the rest.''

Screamin' Jay Hawkins Related News Stories ╖ Screamin' Jay Hawkins
put a spell on us - Salon (Feb 18, 2000)

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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 10:22:16 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) Great News!!!!!

"Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>what
you'd love to see on the site

>I would love to see a picture of the inside of a prepared piano!!

Cool idea! You could use the Evelyn Glennie percussion masterclass
site ( http://www.braunarts.com/evelyn/intro.html ) as a model. Or
even better, the Interactive Gamelan site ( http://www.gsj.org/library/sw_gamelan.cfm ).
It would be great to play virtual prepared piano at your site. Think of
the possibilities! Drag and drop various items to various positions in
the piano, then play the v-keyboard to see what happens.
There's a PP cd-rom available ( http://www.propeller-island.com/sounds/dt/prepared_piano.html )
that you can use for playback.

- -ls




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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:36:12 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) school band records

School Band Records and such...

I only have school band TAPES (from early 80's) of my band days (I'm 26)...

It's too bad though I only have the lame tapes from concert years..  one
year
we played a tune called Incantation and Dance.  We had to practice it so
many
months to be able to play it that I wouldn't have wanted a tape of it if you
offered..

But now I can really appreciate what it was.. almost a clear cut exotica
piece!

It started with some slow mysterious strings like a yma sumax piece and then
the percussions
started in with the Claves (I played them).  More and more percussions came
in every 4 bars until
it was pretty groovy and then the rest of the band came back in.  I think
all the time the percussion
was going there was a solid note from the Oboes going
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.  The piece picked up
and ended up sounding something like the music in Raiders of the Lost Arc..
like running through
the jungle being chased by natives music.

Best part was the 'Whip' we cracked which was really some planks of wood
with a hinge and handles.  You just
clapped them together for a whip-like cracking sound.  We cracked it so loud
and hard the wood split on the boards
and we had to build another one.

I doubt anyone has heard of the piece, but I may look around the web and see
if I can find if there are any
recordings of it... Incantation and Dance.

Oh btw, we won the 'sweepstakes' playing the piece. I think it was so
difficult for a high school band they
would have given us the prize for playing it half-way decent... but we
played it very well.

OH yeah - the only band record I've bought thrifting was because of this:
On the cover of the album it showed
about 40 kids who were in this band.. it must have been an elementary school
band, pretty young kids.  Anyways,
on the black and white photo some kid had taken a marker and X'ed out every
kids face except for 2!  Those 2 had
big red circles around them. I assume this was the owner of the record and
their best friend.  It was kind of sweet they kept 2 circled, yet creepy
they crossed out the other 38.  Would make a good album cover now the way it
is.

Maybe a new thread:

If anyone has ever seen the pavement EP with the rooster on the record
cover.. this is actually a record jacket from an old album which has been
doctored with a pen or marker and reused as their album cover art.  I saw
this old album but didn't buy it ($7 at the time was steep).  I've seen the
Kim Novak cover of that Eddie Duchin story soundtrack colored in with a
marker and used as a 7' cover also.  That's a really common thrift store
soundtrack find it seems.
I just wonder if there are more exotica or soundtrack covers that have been
copped for post-modern reuse on modern record jackets.





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