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exotica-digest      Wednesday, February 16 2000      Volume 02 : Number 629



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) RE: Kahunas! (Barbarella)
Re: (exotica) italian e-z beat remixes
Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators
(exotica) Amsterdam recommendations?
Re: (exotica) Re: louis louis
Re: (exotica) italian e-z beat remixes
Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators
(exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
(exotica) My Lover, The Record Collector
Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
(exotica) [obits] Dean Davenport,John C. Kuehne,William Oliver Swofford,Ervin Litkei,Harry William Prichett Sr.
Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Re: (exotica) For fans of the like...
Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
(exotica) electric sitar
Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
(exotica) Exotic/Indian/Psychedelic/Luke Vibert & BJ Cole
Re: (exotica) Exotic/Indian/Psychedelic/Luke Vibert & BJ Cole
Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
RE: (exotica) For fans of the like...
(exotica) Italiano 12" vinyl remixes
Re: (exotica) electric sitar
Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Re: (exotica) Italiano 12" vinyl remixes
Re:  (exotica) Italiano 12" vinyl remixes
Re:  Re: (exotica) electric sitar
(exotica) MisterLUCKY*GRAM February 2000
Re: (exotica) For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:00:43 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Kahunas! (Barbarella)

In a message dated 2/15/00 5:49:26 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< It's available in both formats - Dusty Groove usually has them in
 stock.  The vinyl (which I have) isn't much different from the CD
 quality, from what I've heard - mine doesn't skip, but the sound is
 pretty mediocre.  Given the choice, I'd have bought the CD, but it
 wasn't available last year when I bought the LP.  Although the LP is red
 vinyl, which is fun... And they're both of "questionable origin".
  >>


I bought the CD and it is a much noisier pressing than the vinyl i have. The
bootleggers could have come across a better pressing without all the surface
noise. A bootleg like this should never have been considered let alone won an
award even one which only this list will know like the kahunas.

Ashley


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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:05:22 +0100
From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) italian e-z beat remixes

>I got the Piero Piccioni 12" remixes of "Mr. Dante Fontana", "Esculapio" and
>one other one from Dusty Groove. A question to the fellas from the Boot (DJ
>Batman, Gionni Paludi): Are there any other Italiano 12" vinyl remixes worth
>getting? These are really mind-blowingly fabulous and I want more!...Thanks
>in advance...J. Botticelli

Right tempo used to do a series of remixed 7"... a bit bit expensive but I
remember extremely weird versions of Mah na' Mah na' by Umiliani with
spacey synth sounds and a sort of neapolitan folk song on the b-side
(urgh)... I think there is a cd collection of Umiliani remixes but I have
to admit I don't know much about it...
There is some kind of remix vinyl in the works from a label I work with but
things are still in the early stage so I am forced to remain in silence for
a while... ;)

bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista

"Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief"
(Bono)




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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:16:44 -0500
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators

<<Heh.  Not me.  I never found one Mancini (or Wanderley) LP in a =
thrift=20
store, only in used record stores.>>

Damn.  I remain silent no more.

You can "never say never" when it comes to thrifting records at the =
GoodWill or whatever.

I live in Baltimore, crawling with Gen X asswipes and other trendy bores - =
yet I manage to find Wanderley's "Rainforest" and a slew of Mancini =
albums.  Also Denny, Lyman, Stereo Action stuff, etc.  Also tikis, Buomi =
temple mugs, etc.

Just shut up and look!

- - Nate




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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:37:23 +0000
From: <Charles_Moseley/LON/Europe/[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Amsterdam recommendations?

Can any listees familiar with the city recommend shopping sites - shops and
markets for old records, furniture, general second hand goods, etc. And I
know its of topic but how about clubs which specialise in trance/euro.

Thanks all



Charlie


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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 06:51:51 PST
From: "jonathan richardson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: louis louis

> > Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:53:28 -0500
> > From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
> > Subject: (exotica) Louis Louis???
> >
> > Sort of a silly question, but when these questions pop into one's head,
> > they don't go away...
> > Did Louis Prima ever record a version of "Louie Louie"?
>
>Unfortunately no, he didn't (he did "Route 66", though). Neither did
>it Louis Jordan nor Louis Armstrong.
>But Mongo Santamaria did a great version, if we're talkin' exotic.
>Ciao
>gionni gionni


and dont forget the wonderfully erotic, if not incredibly strange, version
by Julie London from "Yummy Yummy Yummy"

ooh la la

- -jonny
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 10:56:36 -0500
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) italian e-z beat remixes

Not vinyl, but there are two remix CDs on Right Tempo:  One is "Mah Na
Mah Na: The Complete Remix Project", with remixes by the likes of Gak
Sato, Raphael Sebbag and Karminsky Experience.  Then there's "Sessomatto
Experience" - same concept, mainly the same artists too.  Both
recommended.

cheryl


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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 00 07:58:30 -0800
From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators

><<Heh.  Not me.  I never found one Mancini (or Wanderley) LP in a thrift
>store, only in used record stores.>>
>
>Damn.  I remain silent no more.

>You can "never say never" when it comes to thrifting records at the
>GoodWill or whatever.

You completely misread/misinterpreted what I said.  I didn't say I will
never find any, I said that I have never found any YET, in all my years
of thrifting.  You apparently have found at least some of the LPs you
were looking for by visiting thrift shops; I have not.

>I live in Baltimore, crawling with Gen X asswipes and other trendy bores -
>yet I manage to find Wanderley's "Rainforest" and a slew of Mancini
>albums.  Also Denny, Lyman, Stereo Action stuff, etc.  Also tikis, Buomi
>temple mugs, etc.
>
>Just shut up and look!

That sentence was rude and unnecessary.  FYI, I visit my local thrift
stores here on a VERY regular basis and I stand by what I said above as
being MY experience.  I am not in Baltimore (where the population is much
greater in number, thereby making collectibles generally more available),
I'm on the west coast in a small city.  And I was not just talking about
U.S. WW releases either.  I'm talking about the MUCH harder to find Odeon
Brasil releases!  Since 'Rain Forest' went platinum in 1970, there are
about a bazillion copies of THAT LP around, not including the
still-in-print U.S. Verve CD.

You find an Odeon Brasil Wanderley release in a thrift store--you be sure
to let us know...

Regards,
- --bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:01:16 -0500
From: George Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...

All that Sitar stuff was actually electric sitar (see also the Spinners), &
I think all recorded at Sigma Sound-either one of the guitarists in the
house band had one or Thom Bell made them play it. Reggie Young at American
Studios in Memphis had one & used it pretty regularly too (Dusty in Memphis'
"Land of Make Believe," Elvis, etc). Conceptually not so "East/West," but
added for the Exotic Touch.
& speaking of E/W, there's also a couple Cal Tjaders; "Several Shades of
Jade" from '63 or '64 has some pretty cool stuff & has been reissued w/its
followup "Breeze from the East." While "Breeze" is considerably kitchier,
with cheesy go-go arrangements under fake oriental schtick, it remains a
great lp for those of us who choose to lovingly embrace these qualities as
well. See also Dave Brubeck's "Jazz Sounds from the Far East." I think
that's the title...
  gh

        [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>  wrote:

        At 2:27 PM 2/15/0, [e-mail]
<mailto:[e-mail]>  wrote:
            >We've all been busy, haven't we!  Last but not
least, let's not forget the
            >early 7T's soul tracks by artists attracted to the
sitar: several by The
        Stylistics,....more, but I can't think off the top of my
head...JB
        Delphonics, Jimmy Bee, Delphonics, more of the Philly Soul
sound. I wonder if future Stylistic Thomas Bell got Delphonics to use that
sound in their arrangments. The CD booklet says that's guitar not sitar on
Didn't I Blow Your Mind This Time, Over & Over Again, and the minor hit,
Delphonics Theme.
        Other east-west hybrids:
        Mahavishnu John McLauglin, My Goal Beyond
        Wonderwall Music, George Harrison, nicely psychedelic
        More contemporary stuff: Najma.
        Mimi




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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:14:10 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) My Lover, The Record Collector

http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~tewing/collect.html



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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 12:26:26 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...

George Hall wrote:
>
> All that Sitar stuff was actually electric sitar (see also the Spinners), &
> I think all recorded at Sigma Sound-either one of the guitarists in the
> house band had one or Thom Bell made them play it. Reggie Young at American
> Studios in Memphis had one & used it pretty regularly too (Dusty in Memphis'
> "Land of Make Believe," Elvis, etc). Conceptually not so "East/West," but
> added for the Exotic Touch.
>

Pardon my layperson's ignorance (I play, but I don't
use any gizmos), but I seem to recall
reading somewhere that a lot of those old soul
records used some sort of device that created a
sitar-like effect with the guitar.  You can kind
of tell, because the end result is like blurred sitar.
But perhaps I imagined it all.


- --

Kerry


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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:32:45 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obits] Dean Davenport,John C. Kuehne,William Oliver Swofford,Ervin Litkei,Harry William Prichett Sr.

    PANAMA CITY, Fla. (AP) -- Retired Air Force Col. Dean Davenport,
co-pilot of the bomber ``Ruptured Duck'' during the daring
Doolittle Raid on Japan early in World War II, died Monday. He was
81.
    Lt. Ted W. Lawson, Davenport's pilot, wrote a book about the
Doolittle Raid titled ``Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo.'' Davenport
served as technical adviser when the book was made into a movie
starring Spencer Tracy as Gen. James ``Jimmy'' Doolittle.
- ----------
                           *John C. Kuehne
    ROCKPORT, Texas (AP) -- John C. Kuehne, who played music with The
Monkees, Linda Ronstadt and James Taylor, died Saturday. He was 58.
    The cause of death was not released.
    An accomplished bass player, he attended San Antonio College and
won musical competitions along with Michael Nesmith.
    When Nesmith was chosen for a starring role with The Monkees, a
1960s television sitcom about a pop music group, Kuehne became a
backstage player with the show. Under the stage name John London,
Kuehne did musical work with the group and played small roles in
some episodes.
    He later was a studio musician for Ronstadt, Taylor and others.
Kuehne left California and returned to San Antonio in the early
1970s.
    Kuehne worked in advertising sales for both the San Antonio
Express-News and the San Antonio Light. After the Light closed in
1993, Kuehne and his family moved to the Gulf Coast, where he
joined the Corpus Christi Caller-Times.
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=1:11:23|PM&p=amg&sql=B99253
- ------
                      *William Oliver Swofford
    SHREVEPORT, La. (AP) -- William Oliver Swofford, a singer who
under the stage name Oliver had late-'60s hits with the songs
``Good Morning, Starshine'' and ``Jean,'' died Saturday of cancer.
He was 54.
    In 1969, his recording of ``Starshine,'' from the Broadway
musical ``Hair,'' climbed to No. 3 on the pop charts and the ballad
``Jean'' reached No. 2.
    He toured throughout the 1970s, then left the music business in
the 1980s and worked in the home-construction and pharmaceutical
industries.

Fliddy gloop gloopy, nibby nobby nooby, la la la lo lo.
Shamma shimmy shaman, nooby abba dabban, lee lee lo lo.
Dooby ooby wadda, nooby abba dabba, early mornin' singin' song.
[and then later]
Song song song si-i-ing sing sing sing song.
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=1:11:23|PM&p=amg&sql=B25314
- -------
                           *Ervin Litkei
    NEW YORK (AP) -- Ervin Litkei, who composed marches dedicated to
every U.S. president since Franklin D. Roosevelt, died Feb. 8. He
was 78.
    Litkei, who came to the United States from Hungary in 1948,
composed several marches -- including ``The President Lyndon Baines
Johnson March'' and ``The George Bush March'' -- that were played at
presidential inaugural ceremonies.
    For the current president's inauguration, he composed both ``The
President Bill Clinton March'' and ``A Salute to the First Lady
March,'' apparently the first march composed for a first lady.
    A music business executive who owned several companies, Litkei
also wrote large orchestral scores, including ``Peace and
Remembrance'' and ``The Atlantic and Pacific Suite.'' In addition,
he wrote the soundtracks for several films and television
productions.
    Litkei composed his first tribute to a U.S. president, ``The
Franklin D. Roosevelt March,'' while still living in Hungary, where
he studied at the Music Conservatory.
http://thenewage.com/cg/x.dll?UID=1:17:55|PM&p=acg&sql=1:63537~W#WORKS
http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-e-litkei.html
- ---------
                        *Harry W. Prichett Sr.
    NEW YORK (AP) -- Harry William Prichett Sr., a graphic artist and
creator of the interactive television program ``Winky Dink and
You,'' died Feb. 5. He was 79.
    The program, which initially aired in 1954, was television's
first attempt at interactive broadcasting, and spawned from
Prichett's idea of turning the TV set into a toy and teaching aid
for children. The title character Winky would embark on adventures
with his dog, Woofer. Winky usually ran into trouble and asked
children to draw something on the screen, like a bridge over a
river.
    The program ran for four years on CBS.
    The show returned, with 65 color cartoons, and ran in
syndication from 1969 to 1973. It was revived again in the 1990s as
a video kit featuring newly digitized cartoons and new hosts.
    The original ``Winky Dink'' also came with a kit containing a
thin transparent ``Magic Screen,'' which could be stuck on the TV
set screen, along with crayons and a wipe-away cloth.
    The show was so popular that it was broadcast on Saturdays and
Sundays, and, at its peak, drew some 25,000 letters a week from
viewers asking to buy the 50-cent ``Magic Kits.''
http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-h-prichett.html
http://www2.wi.net/~rkurer/winky.htm
http://alltheweb.com/cgi-bin/asearch?type=all&query=%22winky+dink%22
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:44:45 +0000
From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Pardon my layperson's ignorance (I play, but I don't
> use any gizmos), but I seem to recall
> reading somewhere that a lot of those old soul
> records used some sort of device that created a
> sitar-like effect with the guitar.  You can kind
> of tell, because the end result is like blurred sitar.
> But perhaps I imagined it all.

This is a guess, but the 'sitar' on those tracks is normally one note at
a time, whereas sitars tend to have the other strings vibrating in
sympathy at times.

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:04:46 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) For fans of the like...

At 07:20 AM 2/16/00 -0500, Mimi Mayer wrote:
>
>You know one of the greatest things about living in Motown all those years
>was near total-immersion in soul--odd for a suburban white girl.

I'm sure you don't think it was that odd.  Or maybe you do.
It suddenly occurred to me that maybe my perspective on this is a
particularly Canadian one, in that most of the music we heard came from
somewhere else.  Or maybe it had something to do with a somewhat less overt
"racial divide".
(Not to claim that Canada is a less "racist" society.  Just that, like many
things, we don't talk about it.)
But to me, especially in the period you're referring to, it was all pop
music and except in extreme cases - like Wilson Pickett versus Herman's
Hermits - I couldn't even tell what was black and what was white.
Either way though, I didn't care.  When people said that the Stones and the
Animals were influenced by R&B and blues, which was supposedly "black"
music, it was like "yeah whatever".
Motown was obviously huge here but so was Stax.  I recognized that Stax was
a somewhat "tougher" sound but the distinction was no different than the
fact that the Stones were tougher than the Beatles.  I preferred the Stones
but I never thought "oh that means I prefer black music".

That changed.  I eventually became more aware in all kinds of ways.  But to
some degree, I'm glad for that original "naivete".  Now I might refer to
something occasionally as "blacker" or "whiter" but basically, it's still
all pop music to me.

Nat



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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:58:16 -0000
From: "ark edgar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...

does anyone on this list like lionel ritchie, celine dion, or even t'pau, I
think they are all fantastic.


I also think tina's turners new stuff is much better than all of that old
funky mularky.

cheers


R.



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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:44:31 -0500
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...

At 1:26 PM -0500 2/16/00, [e-mail] wrote:

>Pardon my layperson's ignorance (I play, but I don't
>use any gizmos), but I seem to recall
>reading somewhere that a lot of those old soul
>records used some sort of device that created a
>sitar-like effect with the guitar.  You can kind
>of tell, because the end result is like blurred sitar.
>But perhaps I imagined it all.

They used a Danelectro Electric Sitar, which had 6 strings like a regular
guitar, but had another 40 or so resonating strings at the top of the
instrument. I believe they also used some special light gage string. The
instruments are currently made by the Jerry Jones Co of Nashville TN.

br cleve


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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:54:48 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) electric sitar

http://shibuya.cool.ne.jp/teht/guitar/sitar.html

And the JJ/ES is one cool lookin' instrument (but must be a bitch to tune!).

- -Lou

http://harmonycentral.com/Guitar/Data4/Jerry_Jones/Electric-Sitar-01.html

http://210.248.229.130/music/gtr015/

Oh, and someone remind me, was that Larry Coryell playing electric
sitar on Don Sebesky's Distant Galaxy?



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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:57:51 -0500
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...

Okay, shouldn't you be on the alt.boringmainstreampopmusic.list :)  I
didn't think we were allowed to mention Celine Dion on this list (which
is the way it should be!!)

cheryl

ark edgar wrote:
>
> does anyone on this list like lionel ritchie, celine dion, or even t'pau, I
> think they are all fantastic.
>
> I also think tina's turners new stuff is much better than all of that old
> funky mularky.
>


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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:35:41 +0100 (MET)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Exotic/Indian/Psychedelic/Luke Vibert & BJ Cole

There is a new Album out:

LUKE VIBERT uk trip hop artist  / BJ COLE steel guitarist leegend
 –STOP THE PANIC  on Cooking Vinyl

that contains a unbelievable great monster exotic indian space psychedelic
track CHENG PHOOEY
with a danceable electro rythm.
the track FLY HAWAII is also nice. Trip hop with steel guitar
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

Martin

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:54:33 -0500
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotic/Indian/Psychedelic/Luke Vibert & BJ Cole

While on the subject, there's another release along these lines:

Untouchable Outcaste Beats, vol. 1 (don't know if there were any further
volumes ever released).  It's on Outcaste records (a division of Tommy
Boy), and they have a web site (which I haven't checked out yet) at:

http://www.outcaste.com

It's got a good mix of old and new on it - Dave Pike Set, Ananda
Shankar, Wolfgang Dauner, and Up Bustle & Out, Pressure Drop, etc...
You can listen to RealAudio clips of it at CDNow, too.  It was released
in 1997, but I just noticed it in local record stores a few months ago.

cheryl


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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:08:28 GMT
From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...

> From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
>
> They used a Danelectro Electric Sitar, which had 6 strings like a regular
> guitar, but had another 40 or so resonating strings at the top of the
> instrument. I believe they also used some special light gage string. The
> instruments are currently made by the Jerry Jones Co of Nashville TN.
>

The classic is the Coral Sitar:

> Vinnie Bell Coral Sitar.
>
> 1967-1969: about the coolest guitar Danelectro ever produced. Has            > 13 drone strings that move from the vibration of the usual 6 strings.
> Three pickups, 2 for the 6 stings and 1 for the drone strings. Crinkle
> burgundy finish, 3 point body shape. Has a "buzz" bridge which
> similate the sitar sound. The resonation from the buzz bridge vibrates
> the top of the body and the drone strings. Clear pickguards protecting
> the drone strings and Vinnie's name on the lower 6 string clear
> pickguard. Body is made entirely from Poplar, with a semi-hollow
> construction.

The Danelectro Sitar is the "no frills" model:

> Danelectro Sitar.
>
> 1967-1969: not as fancy as the Coral version of the electric sitar. One
> pickup, round body shape, bulb peghead, no drone strings. The lack of
> drone strings make this a far less desirable electric sitar. Solidbody
> Poplar body construction.

[snipped from: http://geocities.com/Hollywood/1375/dano.html]
[also has pictures of both]




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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:09:49 -0500
From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) For fans of the like...

I'm sure you don't think it was that odd.  Or maybe you do.
It suddenly occurred to me that maybe my perspective on this is a
particularly Canadian one, in that most of the music we heard came from
somewhere else.  Or maybe it had something to do with a somewhat less overt
"racial divide".
(Not to claim that Canada is a less "racist" society.  Just that, like many
things, we don't talk about it.)


Well, in the 60's in the US, there were civil rights issues definitely being
brought to the fore and two schools of thought were:

1. Those who would say it's all pop music.
2. Those who saw music in terms of race.

By the end of the 60's and through the seventies, radio got decidedly more
segregated.  I am of the mind that as Rock and Roll became more pervasive
and dominant, genres became more defined, for better or worse.  In the
fifties, it seems that it was all anyone could do to get Rock and Roll
records, so color was less of an issue in that regard.  In cold, hard
commercial terms, if the kids want that rock and roll beat, who cared
whether it was Fats Domino or Georgia Gibbs?

To be certain, there has always been a racial (and moral) issue as well.  If
we are to take the example of Motown from Mimi's post, remember their slogan
was, "The Sound of Young America".  One could argue that they did quite a
lot to make sure that they included as many young Americans as possible and
thereby watered down their sound in some cases to make the "crossover" (the
Soul label housed many of the exceptions).  Berry Gordy, in his memoirs,
mentioned that he rather enjoyed Jazz, but when he had a record store,
people wanted Blues and he stopped trying to "educate" his customers and
cater to their tastes.

If you are African-American (I am), the success of Motown means quite a lot
to me, in terms of inroads to racial unity and good music.  Time has oddly
segregated pop music over time, in other ways, so, having sat through all
that blather, yes, it may indeed a big deal to have Mimi's tastes!  I find
Nat's take quite interesting.

As to the post about Tina Turner's music, to each their own, I suppose.  I
would rather not have an aspect of my cultural heritage cast off as "funky
malarkey", however.  Especially during Black History Month.  It seems that
both musical lists I am on have given me promptings of conscience to speak
on racial issues and I would rather leave that out, if possible.  I'm here
to talk about Exotica music but I am also here to wade in the shallow end of
the pool before diving in on certain topics (i.e. I gladly take me ease when
say, Br. Cleve posts).

If you don't like Ms. Turner's earlier music, you don't like it and that's
fine.  I will keep my loathing of Ray Conniff's music to myself (uh oh...),
but I noticed that even he had played Trombone on a Cozy Cole 78 that I have
and that there very well may be better stuff than what I have heard.  So
keep an open mind (I came in to the list with a big bias against Martin
Denny.  I had some pre-internet friends who were die-hard Les Baxter fans
and poo-poohed Denny!  I now own 4 Dennys.  Take THAT John and Dan!) and
let's all be nice to each other on the list.

Brian Phillips




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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:00:39 +0000
From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Italiano 12" vinyl remixes

> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:25:54 EST
> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: (exotica) italian e-z beat remixes
>
> I got the Piero Piccioni 12" remixes of "Mr. Dante Fontana", "Esculapio" and
> one other one from Dusty Groove. A question to the fellas from the Boot (DJ
> Batman, Gionni Paludi): Are there any other Italiano 12" vinyl remixes worth
> getting? These are really mind-blowingly fabulous and I want more!...Thanks
> in advance...J. Botticelli

Apart from that (you can catch the original un-remixed version as
track 1 on "Beat At Cinecitta', vol. 2"), I would absolutely
(and I mean it) recommend to get the Piero Piccioni "O rugido do
leao" 12", featuring original version and 4 remixes (the
"Batucadalbertone" mix, the "Brazilian Beat", the "Tanimoody" mix,
and the "Soulbeat Lion" mix). It's out on "Studio Uno" label.
Other highly recommended item, on same label: "W la felicita'
(english version)" by Franco Godi, with 2 remixes; the original
italian language edit is on Studio Uno's "Third Millennium"
compilation.
Also there's Berto Pisano "Kill! (Kill them all)" 12", with 2
remixes (again on S.U.), but I don't like it that much: early
70's heavy orgiastic funk, instead of 6T's easy poppiness. But that's
just my bag; you can also find different remixes of "KIll!" on a
Right Tempo 12". The Studio Uno man (Paolo Scotti) is an offshoot of
Right Tempo, and seems like that they parted participation to join
competition. I've talked to Paolo few days ago, and he told that he's
now working on a remix of a certain Chet Baker tune.
Ciao
Gionni Paludi


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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:25:35 -0000
From: "ark edgar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) electric sitar

apparently it wasLarry coryell who played sitar on GURU VIN what a groovy
track, and the rest of the LP is not too bad either.

Tell me did Don Sebesky do anything else that is worth buying, I have only
managed to get a copy of the distant galaxy.

and it really is v v good

cheers

ronnie





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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:32:36 -0000
From: "ark edgar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...

Tongue in cheek I hope that is said Cheryl.

Celine truly is "Exotica" in it's finest form, exotica is "Incredibly
Strange Music" after all, and what could be stranger than people actually
buying (or wanting to buy)  Celine Dion, Lionel Ritchie (although one or two
Commdores tunes were quite good), and at the very worst T'pau I dont know if
they made it big in the states but they sure were over here, and man they
were SHIT .

I would prefer to have my toes nailed to the floor than listen to that.

Cheers

Ronnie



>
> Okay, shouldn't you be on the alt.boringmainstreampopmusic.list :)  I
> didn't think we were allowed to mention Celine Dion on this list (which
> is the way it should be!!)
>
> cheryl
>
> ark edgar wrote:
> >
> > does anyone on this list like lionel ritchie, celine dion, or even
t'pau, I
> > think they are all fantastic.
> >




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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:39:14 -0000
From: "ark edgar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Italiano 12" vinyl remixes

The Jazzanova Remix of Balancos version of Metti, Una Sera A Cena, by Ennio
M ------Superb

Very chilled.


Cheers

Ronnie



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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:24:11 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Italiano 12" vinyl remixes

In a message dated 2/16/0 4:55:34 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Apart from that (you can catch the original un-remixed version as
>track 1 on "Beat At Cinecitta', vol. 2"), I would absolutely
>(and I mean it) recommend to get the Piero Piccioni "O rugido do
>leao" 12", featuring original version and 4 remixes (the
>"Batucadalbertone" mix, the "Brazilian Beat", the "Tanimoody" mix,
>and the "Soulbeat Lion" mix). It's out on "Studio Uno" label.

I couldn't agree more as this is the third and best title I picked up in the
series
>Other highly recommended item, on same label: "W la felicita'
>(english version)" by Franco Godi, with 2 remixes; the original
>italian language edit is on Studio Uno's "Third Millennium"
>compilation.

How does one go about obtaining them?

>Also there's Berto Pisano "Kill! (Kill them all)" 12", with 2
>remixes (again on S.U.), but I don't like it that much: early
>70's heavy orgiastic funk, instead of 6T's easy poppiness. But that's
>just my bag;

I know what you mean, besides its a very vocal tune and I like the more
instro approach.

>you can also find different remixes of "KIll!" on a
>Right Tempo 12".

I need a way to get them as well

The Studio Uno man (Paolo Scotti) is an offshoot of
>Right Tempo, and seems like that they parted participation to join
>competition. I've talked to Paolo few days ago, and he told that he's
>now working on a remix of a certain Chet Baker tune.

Scotti's work is brilliant and very now. How does one e-mail the fellow??
Thanks Gionni...JB


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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:26:57 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) electric sitar

In a message dated 2/16/0 5:27:17 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Tell me did Don Sebesky do anything else that is worth buying

This may not be for everyone, but I like his fuzak-ky version of the standard
"Skyliner" on a later (1975) CTI LP called "The Rape of El Morro". It
features a great glossy cover with two muddied up nude models in a trash can
in fetal position. Its great e-z disco and a real hum-a-longer...JB


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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:08:39 -0800
From: "Steve Sando" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) MisterLUCKY*GRAM February 2000

MisterLUCKY*GRAM February 2000
>From MisterLUCKY, Your Musical Communiqu=E9
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:29:29 +1100
From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...

on 16/2/00 6:27 AM, [e-mail] at [e-mail] wrote:

>
>
> In a message dated 2/14/0 10:09:32 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>> At 01:38 PM 2/14/00 EST, [e-mail] wrote:
>>> In a message dated 2/13/0 5:54:11 PM, [e-mail]
> wrote:
>>>> Anyone got any recommendations for more East/West crossover albums?
>
"Electric Bath" by Don Ellis - sitar and quarter tone trumpets! A track
turning up on the exotica ring when I get this CD burner to talk to my Mac
reliably.

Philip

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