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exotica-digest       Wednesday, February 9 2000       Volume 02 : Number 621



In This Digest:

RE: (exotica) the poetic cockroach on a typewriter
(exotica) the slap fight continues
(exotica) Euro vs. US cd prices
Re:  Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache
Re:  (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache
Re: (exotica) I love Australians,Mandingo and Quad
(exotica) Quad
(exotica) Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" Feb 9, 2000
(exotica) Red light special in aisle 12 (hula girl)
Re: (exotica) post-Prima TV
(exotica) Lyman's "Taboo" contains "Quiet Village"???
(exotica) New Exotica Website Unveiled...
(exotica) New on the Space Age Pop page
(exotica) Dick Hyman MUST-HAVE
Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache
(exotica) Record dealer query
(exotica) Airports, airplanes, and the people who love them........
Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache
(exotica) Yesterday's scores
(exotica) Bob MOOG remembers RS !
(exotica) Breakbeat! Apache
Re: (exotica) Dick Hyman MUST-HAVE
(exotica) The Liquid Room 1/22/00
(exotica) Lunch Finds....
(exotica) Re: exorbitant CD prices in Europe (was: these are the breaks)
(exotica) Re: recent mancini RCA/BMG Spain reissues
(exotica) Re: more burnin CD questions
Re: (exotica) Lunch Finds....
(exotica) [obit] Don Ralke
RE: (exotica) [obit] Don Ralke
(exotica) New Age Exotica....
(exotica) New Age Exotica....
(exotica) DVD player that plays MP3s on CD-Rs....
Re: (exotica) Lunch Finds....
Re: (exotica) New Age Exotica....
Re: (exotica) Yesterday's scores

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 19:42:31 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) the poetic cockroach on a typewriter

yep, that's it: "Archy and mehitabel" by one Don Marquis. thanx, folks!

        Johan

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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 13:51:36 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the slap fight continues

Tying in with Lou's earlier biz post, MP3.COM has now counter-sued the
RIAA. Story here:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000208/wr/music_mp_1.html

Text of the law suit here:
http://mp3.com/news/570.html?hparticle0



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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:25:13 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (B.R. Rolya)
Subject: (exotica) Euro vs. US cd prices

>In a message dated 2/7/00 10:31:03 AM EST, [e-mail] writes:
><< I'm still trying to figure out why a German or French import CD will
> cost much less here for the same CD than it does in Germany or France -
> often as little as half as much!  Why are CD prices in Europe so
> exorbitant?  Can anyone elighten me on this one? >>

and Ashley responded:
>The reason is that record companies often sell their albums to exporters for
>a lower export price, the reason being is that these albums will be on a
>one-way sale (there will be no returns as they will be sold outside the
>country) and so there is a non-existent backend cost involved in the selling
>and marketing of albums exported.

Actually alot of it has to to with taxes (VAT) that exist at all stages of
cd production and sales and which are then passed on to the consumer in
Europe.  Also, record companies are required to pay mechanical royalties to
the artists on all *manufactured* copies regardless of whether or not
they've been sold whereas in the US, mechanical royalties are paid only on
copies sold.  Finally, distributors do a lot more promotion work in Europe
and put a much higher mark up on cds that they sell to stores in order to
compensate them for promo work done.

All of this (and more) unfortunately adds up to incredibly high prices for
a domestic release.


- - BR
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:26:17 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache

In a message dated 2/8/0 12:19:58 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>The original version of Apache was done by The Champs,
>back in the early 60's (forgot which year)

I have the original Atco single by Jorgen Ingmann of Copenhagen in
January,1961. Maybe he cashed in on the Innggaammaarr Johhaannssenn craze
after he KO'd Floyd Patterson in a shocker of a late 50's U.S. heavyweight
bout...Joel Whitburn doesn't list the song as a Champs record....JB


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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:47:10 -0500
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache

At 2:26 PM -0500 2/8/00, [e-mail] wrote:

>>The original version of Apache was done by The Champs,

>I have the original Atco single by Jorgen Ingmann of Copenhagen in
>January,1961.
>Joel Whitburn doesn't list the song as a Champs record..

I was wrong, it wasn't the Champs. The original was by The Shadows (with
Cliff Richard on bongos), released in the UK in 1960, but the hit version
in the US was by Jorgen Ingmann.

from the booklet of "Shadows Are Go" (Scamp 9711-2, 1996) -

"Our original was released 8 weeks before Jorgen Ingmann put his version
out on Atco........I guess our label didn't promote the record....we all
saw what happened -  Ingmann's record went to the top of the US charts -
and we were sick! (he) took our basic arrangement and added a few echo
effects with the arrows"

br cleve


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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 21:28:34 -0000
From: "ark edgar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I love Australians,Mandingo and Quad

I have a very nice LEAK quad system which I use with my michell turntable
and very, very old goldring quad cartridge, does anyone know if a quad
cartridge is really necessary, or could i just use a modern stereo cartridge
and get the same effect, It all sounds the same to me whatever i do.

PS The Harry Roche Constellation on Quad is Very very good.

Regards

RE



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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 16:54:42 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Quad

http://audiolab.usc.edu/ppt3/sld001.htm
All y'all quad-heads might like to check out a slide-show on 3-D sound
that has mystified me since I stumbled across it. (URL above)


One of the interesting issues about re-issuing quad LPs isn't
that the quad-mix/effect is preserved -- it's that the quad-mix is
used at all! It turns out that most quad encoded releases differed
from the stereo release by either having more sounds present, or by
using entirely different backing tracks. In some cases, the quad and
stereo mixes are completely different takes (shades of the mono/stereo
EXOTICA lps). What with the clarity of CD digital, and the
availability of SurroundSound encoding, it would be cool if more of
the quad mixes were made available when LPs are reissued.

- -Lou
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:00:13 -0500
From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" Feb 9, 2000

"Mondo Bongos" can be heard every Wednesday mornings at 9 on CFRU 93.3fm in
Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome.

Jess Franco - Manacoa Fire "The Manacoa Experience - a dazzling lesson in
cinematic b-film jazz"
Ken Nordine - Sepia "Colors"
Ursula 1000 - Mambo 1000 "The Now Sound of Ursula 1000"

Keith Mansfield - Teenage Villain "Dimenziones in Sound Vol 3"
Mandrill - Lord of the Golden Baboon "Mandrill Is"
Sadistic Mika Band - Suki, Suki, Suki "Black Ship"
Hal Vincent - Heavy Spaceman "Dimenziones in Sound Vol 3"
Ursula 1000 - Very Leggy "The Now Sound of Ursula 1000"

Bob Crewe - Pygar's Persecution/The Black Queen's Beads "Barbarella ost"
Les Maledictus Sound - Kriminal Theme "Les Maledictus Theme"
Pierre Henry/Michel Colombier - Jeriko Jerk "Messe Pour Le Temps Present"
Love Machine - Clockburst "Electronic Music to Blow Your Mind By"
Amon Duul II - Yeti Talks to Yogi "Yeti"

Les Maledictus Sound - Radio Pirat Program "Les Maledictus Sound"

Until next time...
Allan



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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 18:31:12 -0800
From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Red light special in aisle 12 (hula girl)

To U.S. folks interested in tiki culture / Hawaiiana:

While in Target today, I made a never-done-before detour to the
automotive section to check out the cig lighter power adapters.

Anyway, for whatever reason, they are selling hula girl dolls, about
7 inches tall and nicely detailed, which I think are designed to be
mounted on the dashboard of your car.  I didn't look too long, but I
got the impression that certain joints of the doll are articulated so
that bumps in the road and vibrations cause the doll to gyrate.  Nice
grass skirt to boot.

I think the price was just under $10, a must-have for these cold winter
days to remind us of warmer climes.

- -- Brad



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Date: 8 Feb 2000 20:17:55 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) post-Prima TV

At 01:46 PM 08-02-00 -0500, m. ace wrote:
>So did anyone catch the Louis Prima TV extravaganza Saturday night?
>I thought the documentary was pretty good. They let the musical numbers
>play out at nearly full length, rather than severely truncated like a lot
>of latter-day documentaries. I didn't get much of a feel for what Louis was
>like "as a person," but from what was said, it seems that he kept that side
>of life private. Keely Smith really did have a unique stage persona.

As I said before, the director said he wanted to delve into some other
areas, especially with an updated interview with Ms. Smith, but after
working on the interview for a year just went with the material he already
had.  In general he said he wanted to keep the program lively and upbeat,
so I can see how he didn't want to spend too much time on some of the
racial and family issues that could have been focussed on.

I forget whether it was in the biovid or the director said this afterward, but
I remember it being said that the stage persona of Ms. Smith with Louis
Prima was set up to make the antics even more impressive as sort of a
contrast with Ms. Smith's near static disinterested performance.  She was
obviously not like that when the spotlight was on her.

Sorry to say I did not get to see the movie on TV...no cable at the Caloz
house these days.  The biovid I saw at a theatre last month (as I
previously talked about).

Byron



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Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 21:37:36 -0800
From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lyman's "Taboo" contains "Quiet Village"???

Ok, this is one for the hardcore Lyman/Denny geeks (like me...)

At 2:27 into Arthur Lyman's version of "Taboo" there is a point where
all the instruments drop out and it is just some drums (this is the part
prior to the flute).

Maybe I am reading (listening?) too much into this, but it sure sounds
like the beat of those drums matches the bass line of "Quiet Village".

Can anyone else confirm or deny???

- -Kevin Crossman



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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 22:26:07 -0800
From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Exotica Website Unveiled...

Well, folks, the Exotica Archive is complete enough to finally be unveiled...

http://www.kevdo.com/exotica/

Right now there is an essay on the Evolution of Exotica (by all means
correct me on any inaccuracies), a profile of Arthur Lyman, and some
photos of Waikiki (including the Shell Bar...).

Will soon have more...

Please check it out and let me know what you think... and if you have
suggestions for topics to cover let me know as well.

Mahalo!
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 07:16:51
From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New on the Space Age Pop page

New additions to the Space Age Pop website:

    --R.I.P. Si Zentner, 1917-2000
    --New biography pages on Willie Bobo, Dave Pell, and Mike Simpson

http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/whatsnew.htm


Enjoy.

Brad


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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:16:00 +1100
From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dick Hyman MUST-HAVE

Surfing around and had to let you folks know that one of Dick Hyman's best
best recordings is up on eBay, and probably won't get sledgehammered into
the triple-digits by 14-year-old synth player bidders, so it looks like it
could be a bargain.  Unless of course, you all put bids in...

It is a real kooky/moog-like organ (the Baldwin 'Fantomfingers') and he
totally goes wiggy...best track is 'Fantomfingers', his 10 minute long (!)
follow-up jam to 'The Minotaur.'  Anyone on this list who won't dig this
record...well, you're probably Ricky Martin fans.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=254219833

Of course, I ain't connected to this auction in any way...I'd never be
friends with someone who'd sell that!

Keith

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 09:06:59 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache

In a message dated 2/8/00 2:27:29 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< >The original version of Apache was done by The Champs,
 >back in the early 60's (forgot which year)

 I have the original Atco single by Jorgen Ingmann of Copenhagen in
 January,1961. Maybe he cashed in on the Innggaammaarr Johhaannssenn craze
 after he KO'd Floyd Patterson in a shocker of a late 50's U.S. heavyweight
 bout...Joel Whitburn doesn't list the song as a Champs record....JB >>


Don't forget the amazing version of "Apache" by The Shadows!

Ashley


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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:30:22 -0600
From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Record dealer query

Okay, it's a long shot but I'm curious if anyone here has ever had
dealings with Sid's Rare Jazz in San Francisco.  I'm about to drop
a large chunk of change there and before I take the plunge I'd like
to hear from anybody who's bought from them before.  I've talked to
him on the phone and he sounds like a stand up guy.  Just
interested in experiences anyone might have had with him before.

Thanks for the space.

Darrell Brogdon
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KANU FM 91.5
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:21:21 -0500
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Airports, airplanes, and the people who love them........

Could everyone give a more vivid description of what type of music that =
Sunahara guy plays?

Sounds intruiging.

And what's with this airplane worship?  Eno who did Songs for Airports or =
whatever it is, right? (which was recently re-done by a group called =
"Banging on Cans" or something like that).

- - Nate




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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 07:18:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache

or Hot Butter, on the moog. Mouthwatering.
>
>
> Don't forget the amazing version of "Apache" by The
> Shadows!
>

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:18:00 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) Yesterday's scores

Scored some fab records yesterday, to celebrate cashing a check for some
work I did this fall. Sixth sense led me to Antone's Records, where I
unearthed:

Esquivel's Other Worlds, Other Sounds (mono), More of Other World Other
Sounds in glorious full bodied stereo, and Strings Aflame, also hi-fi but
Esquivel's genius gleams nonetheless. What's the point of OW,OS in mono? I
had no Esquivel on vinyl, so this feels like I won the Nobel Prize for
Peace and the Pillsbury Bakeoff at the same time. $15 a disk, too--no New
York prices.

Yma Sumac, Fuego del Ande, with Moises Vivanco and His Orchestra
Tipica--not Xtabay, but still scratches that itch for South American folk
song classics such as The Hot Rooster. And it's the Andean princess putting
her pipes through the paces. The orchestra is wonderful.

Les Baxter's Original Quiet Village, a compilation of cuts from Tamboo,
Ritual of the Savage, Caribbean Moonlight, Ports of Pleasure, Jewels of the
Sea. Music for romancing, just in time for Valentine's Day. Come hither, my
darling husband.

Shangri-La, THE Robert Maxwell LP to have, methinks. Whadda catalog:
Poinciana, That Old Black Magic, Nature Boy, The Breeze and I, The Old
Devil Moon, Magic in the Moonlight and Strange Music. One of those rare
records with nary a bad cut in it. What arrangements!

Except for worn grooves on Strings Aflame, these records are all near mint
with clean sleeves and the original inner sleeves. Yeah, dropped a bundle,
but anything to feed the collection. New light sparkles at Rancho Deluxe.

Mimi




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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 09:06:15 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Bob MOOG remembers RS !


     Robert Moog's memories of Raymond Scott (in Moog's own words):

        http://raymondscott.com/moog.html















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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:04:55 -0800 (PST)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache

You know Br Cleve, its funny you should mention "Good Times" and big rap
early songs in the same sentence.  As I'm sure you know,   Good Times was
sampled completely (instrumentally) on one of the biggest hit and first rap
songs, "Rapper's Delight"  also on Sugarhill Records and again by the Sugar
Hill Gang.

I was told once that this was the first big rap song.

I caught Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five live in 1983 at the state
fair. My friends and I were the only people that knew all the words.   Rap
was still new music back then down here,  now I understand New Orleans is
one of the leaders in rap music.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck

> --- "Br. Cleve"  wrote:

 yup, it was. That was as abig a song in the early days of rap as Chic's
> "Good Times" was. The original version of Apache was done by The Champs,
back in the early 60's (forgot which year)
> >
> > br cleve
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 00 08:42:15 -0800
From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Dick Hyman MUST-HAVE

>Anyone on this list who won't dig this
>record...well, you're probably Ricky Martin fans.

Whoa!  I was with you there, until you went and made THAT statement.  I
can assure you that my not liking Dick Hyman's organ stylings doesn't
mean that as a result, I am a fan of ANY pop diva or divo!!!

All musicians aren't created equal--on any instrument.   Where organ and
piano keyboardists are concerned, there are those with a light touch and
those with heavy hands; if we like/prefer one style of playing, it stands
to reason that we won't like the opposite!

Not all of us like the stress of auction buying, either.  Have fun in the
bidding wars....

Regards,
- --bj
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:05:11 -0800
From: "Ponak, David" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Liquid Room 1/22/00

The Liquid Room airs every Saturday Morning (Friday night) from 3-6 on 90.7
FM KPFK. (98.7 in Santa Barbara County).

Also check out my show  The Nice Age at  http://www.spikeradio.com. The time
has changed. I'm now on Sunday afternoons from 3-6 PM, PST.

I'm a little late with this email, and for good reason. I was in Vegas
checking out the man....Wayne Newton! What a show. He made his entrance via
space ship (watch out P-Funk!) and closed with "MacArthur Park," complete
with real rain. It hardly mattered that then man can barely sing these days,
he's still a consumate entertainer.


The Liquid Room-1/22/99:

1.The Committee-California My Way
Happy Together-The Best Of White Whale Records (Varese Sarabande)

2.Betty Boo-I'm On My Way
Grrr It's Betty Boo (WB)

3.The Free Design-2002 A Hit Song
Kites Are Fun: The Best Of The Free Design (Varese Sarabande)

4.Luke Vibert/BJ Cole-Swing Lite Alright
Stop The Panic (Astralwerks)

5.Wiseguys-Ooh La La
The Antidote (Ideal)

6.Mitsuko Hirota-Nagisa No Tensha
60's Cutie Pop Collection-Psychedelic Town Edit (Nippon Columbia-Japan)

7.Eels-A Daisy Through Concrete
Daisies Of THe Galaxy (Dreamworks)

8.The Association-Pandora's Golden Heebie Jeebies

9.DJ Me DJ You-Rainbows & Robots
Rainbows & Robots

10.Barry White-Find The Man Bros.
Together Brothers Soundtrack (Mercury)

11.Takako Minekawa-Tiger
Fun9 (Emperor Norton)

12.Arling & Cameron-Hashi
Music For Imaginary Films (Emperor Norton)

13.The Free Design-Bubbles
Kites Are Fun: The Best Of The Free Design (Varese Sarabande)

14.Groove Armada-At The River
Vertigo (Jive)

15.Dots & Borders-Another Mellow Winter
Tokyo Tapes (Trattoria-Japan)

16.David Axelrod-The Sign
An Axelrod Anthology 1968-1970 (Stateside-UK)

17.Harpers Bizarre-The Debutates Ball
Feelin' Groovy The Best Of Harpers Bizarre (WB)

18.April March-Magic Ass
Dan Le Yeaux D' April March (Tricatel-France)

19.Eels-Wooden Nickels
Daisies Of The Galaxy (Dreamworks)

20.Paul Weller-Wildwood (Sheared Wood Mix)
Boys Soundtrack (A&M)

21.Cubismo Grafico-Area Code 706
Sound For Escape Presents Whonmodell 1999 (Escalator-Japan)

22.Bill Nelson-Another Day Another Ray Of Hope
Chimera (Cocteau-UK)

23.Luke Vibert/BJ Cole-Fly Hawaii
Stop The Panic (Astralwerks)

24.The Free Design-Now Is The Time
Kites Are Fun: The Best Of The Free Design (Varese Sarabande)

25.Arling & Cameron-1999 Spaceclub
Music For Imaginary Films (Emperor Norton)

26.Takako Minekawa-Plash
Fun9 (Emperor Norton)

27.Cibo Matto-About A Girl
Moodchild Pro CD (WB)

28.Pizzicato Five-Wild Strawberries
Pizzicato Five (*********)

29.Singers Unlimited-Angel Eyes
Sentimental Journey (MPS)

30.Wayne Newton-Medley
The Best Of Wayne Newton Live (Chelsea)

31.Flaming Lips-Riding To Work In The Year 2025 (Your Invisible Now) (Stereo
Remix)
Waiting For A Superman CD Maxi Single (WB)

32.Lee Hazlewood (w/Nina Lizell)-Leather & Lace
Cowboy In Sweden (SLR)

33.The Bob Crewe Generation-Menage A Trois (12" Disco Mix)
12" single (Elektra)

34.Puffy-Kore Ga Watashi No Ikiru Michi (The Readymade Darlin' Of Discoteque
Mix)
PRMX (Sony-Japan)

35.Mike Flowers Meets Orbital-Chime (Krisp Double U Mix)
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:07:09 -0500
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lunch Finds....

Just stepped out at lunch and found the following:

Beach Boys' Christmas Album=20

"The Now Generation" - Took a chance on this one.  The cover photo shows a =
group of 8 groovy guys and dolls (most in shades) standing on a *landing =
strip* at an *airport* lookin' all cool as they pose behind the fin of an =
*airplane.*  There's that AIRPORT imagery again!!!!  Anybody heard this?  =
It's got four instros that I'm hopeful for........

"In Case You Haven't Heard......Don Jenkins" - This guy's an organ player, =
and I wouldn't have bothered with this one, except for the fact that it =
has a version of "Mah nah Mah nah!"  Probably stinks.

Anybody wanna tell me how bad these two LP's are now before I go home and =
try 'em out?

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:02:10 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: exorbitant CD prices in Europe (was: these are the breaks)

cheryl wrote:

>I'm still trying to figure out why a German or French import CD will
>cost much less here for the same CD than it does in Germany or France -
>often as little as half as much!  Why are CD prices in Europe so
>exorbitant?  Can anyone elighten me on this one?


    yeah, i wonder too! take those Spanish RCA living stereo reissues:
some of those cost mor here in belgium than at dusty groove! i said: SOME,
that's right: some cd's they cost 10 EURO, and others as much as 17 EURO
(at the same store).


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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:43:11 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: recent mancini RCA/BMG Spain reissues

bj wrote:

>If you like "Our Man In Hollywood", you would probably also like
>"Combo!", "Uniquely Mancini", "Mancini '67", "The Blues and The Beat" and
>other ones like this that feature his big band sound and excellent
>arrangements.


    yep, you're right, i do like those you mention a lot, better than
"Our Man In Hollywood" actually. my favorite of them all is "The Blues and
The Beat", which i would rate as excellent, the other 3 you mentioned as
very good.

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:59:54 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: more burnin CD questions

At 21:16 -0700 2000/02/07, Nat Kone wrote:

>Or to say it another way, somebody told me that those more expensive CDR's,
>on which you can make mistakes and re-record, are only playable on one of
>those re-recordable machines.



    we're talking CD-RW's here. the answer is yes and no. CURRENTLY,
you can only play CD-RW's on the audio cd-recorders, but in theory, NEW CD
players should be able to read them too. a test by MacWorld about a year
ago found that - at that time - there were no new compatible players yet



SLarry3595 wrote:

> The point of the cdrw is you can mess around with it till you get
>it exactly right


    don't know what your idea of "mess around" is, but you can only
erase the LAST track, not just any track. you can't MOVE any track, you
can't change track points, etc.

    i say: go for minidisk! it's the greatest recording device ever
invented!



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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 00 10:22:35 -0800
From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lunch Finds....

>Just stepped out at lunch and found the following:
>
>Beach Boys' Christmas Album

There are at least two Beach Boy Christmas Albums around; their original
one from the early 60s (which is the one I presume you are talking about)
that has the photo of most of them dressed in blue sweaters on the front
cover, decorating a Xmas tree.  This has some nice arrangements on it.
I'm not familiar with and don't own their newer one, so I can't comment
on that...

Regards,
- --bj
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:33:46 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obit] Don Ralke

From today's Variety --

Don Ralke

Don Ralke, composer-arranger for TV shows and films including "77 Sunset
Strip," "Happy Days" and "Laverne and Shirley," died Jan. 26 of natural
causes in Santa Rosa. He was 80.

A Michigan native, Ralke was a key innovator in pioneering production
and arrangement work for the L.A. music scene. Gold Star Recording
Studio founders Stan Ross and Dave Gold remembered Ralke as the most
well-known unknown in the business. Ross told Daily Variety that
everybody has at one time heard something arranged by Ralke, from the
ubiquitous "77 Sunset Strip" TV theme song to the 1960s Jules Akins tune
"Birds and the Bees," which he co-produced.

A creative musical force throughout the 1950s, '60s and '70s, Ralke
arranged six gold records and many pop hits, including the Connie
Stevens song "16 Reasons."

Other notable credits in Ralke's catalog include the Edd "Kookie" Byrnes
cult classic "Kookie - Lend Me Your Comb." He also co-produced and
arranged for the Sunrays, scoring the singles "I Live for the Sun" and
"Andrea."

He is survived by his daughter Pam and three grandchildren.
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=1:17:52|PM&p=amg&sql=B11489
http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?UID=1:19:09|PM&p=avg&sql=B164073
http://209.63.231.35/.CAL/tr1.html#Ralke
http://hubris.net/zolac/smooth/cv3298.html

Among his Recordings are:
Bourbon Street Beat, Warner Brothers WBS-1321
Gershwin with Bongos, Warner Brothers WBS-1360
The Savage and the Sensuous Bongos, Warner Brothers WBS-1398
The Transformed Man, William Shatner (arranged/produced) Decca DLP-75043
Ringo, Lorne Greene (arranged/produced)



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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:49:48 -0500
From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) [obit] Don Ralke

...AND "Jennie Lee" by Jan and Dean!  I was musing about the ever-present
Ralke during a record run, when I found this and Andrea by the Sunrays on
the same day.  What a chameleon.

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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:51:28 -0500
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Age Exotica....

Check out the CD "Bora Bora" by Iasos for some new age exotica - complete =
with bird calls!!

(And a tiki cover......)

http://www.broadcast.com/jukebox/albums/b/borabora2000_440.html

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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:52:29 -0500
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Age Exotica....

Check out the CD "Bora Bora" by Iasos for some new age exotica - complete =
with bird calls!!

(And a tiki cover......)

Not that I'm saying it's any good...........pretty cheesy with the =
keyboard......

http://www.broadcast.com/jukebox/albums/b/borabora2000_440.html



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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 00 11:09:51 -0800
From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) DVD player that plays MP3s on CD-Rs....

Just got this in a CNET email:

 Raite AVPhile 715: Double-Duty DVD
   For a DVD player, $200 is not a bad price. Furthermore, the
   Raite AVPhile 715 also plays CDs full of MP3 music; if you're
   into burning your MP3s to CD to store them, this DVD player will
   make your money go a long way. Find out more in our hands-on
   review:

   http://1.digital.cnet.com/cgi-bin1/flo?x=dmKYgBYBhwYYBuuB


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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:44:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lunch Finds....

Week's Lunch Finds:

Heintje: Weinachten mit
Spikes Jones: (Xmas LP)
Simon & Garfunkel on Pickwick (aka "Tom & Jerry":
Rockabilly - saw this on E-Bay about a week ago...
went for $6).
The Clay Pitts Orchestra w/ Arlene Tiger: Female
Animal ST (Grrrrrrrrr...)

Some of this, etc.,  on tapes due some of you has gone
out. You know who you are (mea culpa, yeah)
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 11:58:36 PST
From: "jonathan richardson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New Age Exotica....

>Check out the CD "Bora Bora" by Iasos for some new age exotica - complete
>with bird calls!!
>
>(And a tiki cover......)
>
>Not that I'm saying it's any good...........pretty cheesy with the
>keyboard......
>
>http://www.broadcast.com/jukebox/albums/b/borabora2000_440.html



Cheesy is right. Dig that funky pseudo-tropica rhythm. MAN! I have a few
Iasos records from the 70s and 80s that I have found in discard bins. Good
for sampling thats about it. Cheesy whooshy synth washes with bleeps and
gurgles. This one, however is beyond me, talk about taking everything human
out of music, WOW. Thanks for pointing it out though. Time to re-program.
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 15:59:37 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Yesterday's scores

At 10:18 AM 2/9/00 -0500, mimi wrote:
>
>Scored some fab records yesterday, to celebrate cashing a check for some
>work I did this fall. Sixth sense led me to Antone's Records, where I
>unearthed:
>
>Esquivel's Other Worlds, Other Sounds (mono), More of Other World Other
>Sounds in glorious full bodied stereo, and Strings Aflame, also hi-fi but
>Esquivel's genius gleams nonetheless. What's the point of OW,OS in mono? I
>had no Esquivel on vinyl, so this feels like I won the Nobel Prize for
>Peace and the Pillsbury Bakeoff at the same time. $15 a disk, too--no New
>York prices.

A post about actual exotica record finds.  How can I not respond?
From zero to three Esquivels in one afternoon.  Suddenly your collection
seems a bit more complete.

(I was more than satisfied with my own exotica collection till a couple of
weeks ago when my friend at the used record store, showed me every Les
Baxter record I'd ever heard of, in perfect shape, with beautiful covers,
sitting in a pile of stuff someone had just brought in.  But I forced
myself not to ask "How much?")

I know what you mean about the mono but as long as you don't hear the
stereo versions, you should be happy.  When I got some of my exotica
classics, I didn't even know they'd come out in stereo too so I was pretty
satisfied... till I heard the stereo.  I know there are some genres - like
50's Blue Note jazz - where collectors prefer the mono versions but I'm not
sure if that's a collecting thing or a sound thing.  I think of exotica and
sabp as made for stereo.

As far as the price goes.  It's not cheap and it's not a gouging price
either.  I would have expected a bit more gouging in a hip music-conscious
spot like Austin.  Then again, maybe the Esquivel thing has levelled out a
bit.  Maybe they think that everyone who really really wanted Esquivel on
vinyl, has them by now.

I find used-record store pricing mentality to be a fascinating topic.

I get the feeling that easy listening, lounge and exotica have become not
exactly part of the "general" mainstream, but part of the mainstream for
those who frequent used record stores.  It's no longer that people know
three names and nothing else.   It just becomes another section in the
store like jazz or rock.
So now, you have MORE records.  And a whole bunch of records that you once
could only get at a thrift store for fifty cents are now in the record
store for five bucks.  But on the other hand, the so-called rarity like
Esquivel comes down to the price of any solid well-respected record - like
an Impulse jazz for instance - and that price is about $15.


>Yma Sumac, Fuego del Ande, with Moises Vivanco and His Orchestra
>Tipica--not Xtabay, but still scratches that itch for South American folk
>song classics such as The Hot Rooster.

Yeah, I had this but sold it.  I guess I don't love Yma that much.  When
she does a tune like "Bo Mambo" or "Goomba Boomba", that sound like music
cannibals play before dinner, then I'm there.  But when she plays "folkier"
stuff, I can take a pass.
>Shangri-La, THE Robert Maxwell LP to have, methinks. Whadda catalog:
>Poinciana, That Old Black Magic, Nature Boy, The Breeze and I, The Old
>Devil Moon, Magic in the Moonlight and Strange Music. One of those rare
>records with nary a bad cut in it. What arrangements!

I think every Robert Maxwell record is great in its own way.  I just got
one of his Command records, Anytime, and suddenly realize I have seven of
his records, eight if you include the Fortune Tellers.
But yeah, in the exotica sense, Shangrila is probably THE one to have.  Add
"Hi Fi Harp" and "Harp in Hi Fi" and you'd have most of it.

> New light sparkles at Rancho Deluxe.

Nice to see someone happy to find new music.  Sometimes I think I'm a bit
too focussed on just adding it to the pile.

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